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Speaker 1: Boston's Bulldozer never sleeps. The Kooner Report weekend edition on

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Speaker 2: Joining me now as she always does at this time,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Grace putting liberals in their place, Grace Vuoto. Yes,

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Speaker 2: my wonderful better half and I definitely married up. Grace.

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm very well. We agree a lot more than we disagree.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know, But to be fair,

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about the shutdown obviously, But to

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Speaker 2: be fair, you and I do have a disagreement on

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Speaker 2: the economy, right, I mean, I don't want to get

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Speaker 2: into it now, but you do think it's not picking

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Speaker 2: up the way it should. You're not seeing prices go down.

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Speaker 2: You think Trump has lost some of his focus on

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Speaker 2: the economy, that he should be razor laser focused more

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Speaker 2: and not doing things around the world, that he should

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Speaker 2: be focusing much more on driving down prices, getting the

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Speaker 2: real estate market up and going again, getting the economy booming.

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Speaker 2: So you and I have had that disagreement, and you

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Speaker 2: you know your sister Laurie feels the same way.

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Speaker 3: She agrees with you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sister Jennifer agrees with you.

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Speaker 3: So the disagreement The disagreement really came from the timing

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Speaker 3: and the execution of the tariffs, and everything I said

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Speaker 3: that was going to result from the tariffs has happened.

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Speaker 3: So do we want to discuss this now? But anyways,

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Speaker 3: that flowed everything down and we didn't get ninety deals

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Speaker 3: in ninety days. We didn't get that. But look, I

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Speaker 3: don't disagree that. I know what his long term goal was,

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Speaker 3: but it was just the timing.

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Speaker 2: IFFs and you and I. But again, look that's that's

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Speaker 2: a discussion for another day. Let me get to the

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Speaker 2: to the to the shutdown. What do you make of

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Speaker 2: this shutdown? Number one? And number two? Who do you

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Speaker 2: think is going to be blamed? And who do you

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Speaker 2: think is going to pay the ultimate price? The Republicans

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Speaker 2: or the Democrats? What say you?

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Speaker 3: Well, Jeff, let me tell you this. Your imitation of

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Speaker 3: Schumer earlier was hilarious. All the contradictions, that was priceless.

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Speaker 3: What you did I think was in the eight o'clock hour.

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Speaker 3: But let me tell you this, it is the Schumer

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Speaker 3: shut down. I think the Democrats are going to be

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Speaker 3: blamed for this because what do we see every day?

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Speaker 3: We see whether we agree or we disagree, like we

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Speaker 3: open the show with you and nine not one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent on the same page on Trump's tariff policy. But regardless,

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Speaker 3: what do we see every day? We see that the

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Speaker 3: President and the Republicans are working so hard every single day.

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Speaker 3: We're seeing speeches, we're seeing developments, we're seeing policies. So

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Speaker 3: we're seeing that they're on the side of trying to

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Speaker 3: get things done on crime, on the border, you name it,

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Speaker 3: on foreign policy, they're all over the place. So the

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Speaker 3: overall perception is the Republicans are working hard and the

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Speaker 3: Democrats have put themselves in a box because what did

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Speaker 3: they do. They exaggerated the rhetoric. They called him a

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Speaker 3: fascist and authoritarian. They keep going down this crazy road,

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Speaker 3: and so now their basis saying this, if he's a

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Speaker 3: fascist and a tyrant and an authoritarian, don't fund the government.

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Speaker 3: So they are boxed in by their own crazy rhetoric.

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Speaker 3: And the public sees this and we see that they

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Speaker 3: are the party of non government, they are the party

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Speaker 3: of violence. So this is the Schumer shutdown. I think

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Speaker 3: they are being outplayed, especially by the administration a gambit

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Speaker 3: to say you're going to shut the government down. Fine,

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Speaker 3: we're even going to lay off other workers. It's all

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Speaker 3: on you, brilliant.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of the argument that Democrats are

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Speaker 2: making that healthcare is going to be the big issue

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Speaker 2: in the midterms, and by highlighting healthcare and claiming there's

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Speaker 2: a quote unquote healthcare crisis that in the end this

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Speaker 2: is going to boomerang against Trump and the Republicans. Do

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Speaker 2: is the issue of spending hundreds of billions of taxpayer

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Speaker 2: dollars to give illegal aliens free healthcare? Is this a

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Speaker 2: winner for the Democrats now, tomorrow and in the midterms.

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Speaker 3: It's not a winner because we even see that Trump

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Speaker 3: is ahead of the ball on healthcare. He's the one

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Speaker 3: that's trying to lower prices overall. So they are floundering.

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Speaker 3: And you know, of course, you have Kamala Harris now

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Speaker 3: making a complete fool of herself on the book tour.

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Speaker 3: So everywhere you look, the Democrats are messing it up.

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Speaker 3: But what the public sees is this, You got to

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Speaker 3: be kidding me. The only job of the government is

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Speaker 3: to fund itself right and to keep governing. And when

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Speaker 3: you see that there's a shutdown, it means that the

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Speaker 3: only job they're supposed to do they're not doing. And

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Speaker 3: in this case, that rebounds all upon the Democrats who

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Speaker 3: are in comp but in on other policies as well.

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Speaker 3: So it's clear that they're going to get to blame

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Speaker 3: for the blame for this, and they're not going to

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Speaker 3: be able to win on the healthcare issue. The only

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Speaker 3: vulnerability that Trump will have in the midterm that I

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Speaker 3: see so far is the economy. If it doesn't totally

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Speaker 3: boom as we all hope it will by then.

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Speaker 2: Should youI the taxpayers? Should we pay for free health

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Speaker 2: care free illegal aliens? And why are the Democrats so

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Speaker 2: ferociously willing to defend this to the point that it

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Speaker 2: could politically destroy them? Why are they so willing to

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Speaker 2: defend the right of illegals to free health care?

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Speaker 3: They are boxed in by their base. Their base told

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Speaker 3: them that in March they should have held firm, that

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Speaker 3: Schumer caved, and so now they have no choice. They

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Speaker 3: have to give them something because they keep telling them

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Speaker 3: that they are facing a tyrant, and this is one

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Speaker 3: of the ways that they're fighting against the tyranny. Right now,

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Speaker 3: they are completely floundering. They don't have a vision, they

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Speaker 3: don't have a leader, they don't have policies, they really

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Speaker 3: don't know what they're doing. And you know, Jeff, we've

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Speaker 3: had twenty one government shutdown since nineteen seventy six. Can

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Speaker 3: you believe that that is a ridiculous number?

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Speaker 2: Wow? Wow? Okay, very quickly. The Democrats also say that

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Speaker 2: they want to not just give illegal aliens hundreds of

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Speaker 2: billions of dollars for free health care, but they also

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Speaker 2: want to give billions and billions for free transgender surgeries

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Speaker 2: to miners and children. So should you and I pay

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Speaker 2: for the healthcare of illegals? Should you and I pay

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Speaker 2: for free sex change operations for miners who identify as trends?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not. And the public is overall standing with this

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Speaker 3: administration when it comes to all the border, all of

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Speaker 3: the efforts to establish law in order across the country.

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Speaker 3: And sadly it's our military members now who even during

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Speaker 3: this shutdown. Sadly they're going to be paid, but retroactively.

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Speaker 3: I even feel bad for them, like why do they

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Speaker 3: have to go through that inconvenience of struggling for a

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Speaker 3: little bit before they get paid back? You know, like

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Speaker 3: think about this, if your check is missing for a

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Speaker 3: few weeks, I know that you know it's not the

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Speaker 3: end of the world. But it's still it's it's inconvenient,

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Speaker 3: and I think that the Republicans should emphasize it. It's

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Speaker 3: the Schumer shutdown. They care about illegals, and they don't

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Speaker 3: mind inconveniencing our core federal personnel, even our military members

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Speaker 3: who have to go, you know, without pay until they're

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Speaker 3: paid retroactively later. Like that's not fair.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of stress, Doctor Grace putting liberals in

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Speaker 2: their place. Grace Woto Grace as always superb stuff. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to you next week, same time, same place, and always,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for coming on the Kooner Report. Okay,

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Speaker 2: my friends, Gray says, this is the Schumer shutdown. Agree, disagree.

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Speaker 1: If Jeff doesn't get a day off. This request came

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