1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Neil Savedra. 2 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 2: You're listening to KFI EM six forty the four Purport 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: on demand on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: Let me teach you have it. 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: Let me teach you had it, Adam, Marron, Nathan, Let 6 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: me teach you at it. 7 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: It's as a column rics name. Let me teach you 8 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: at it. 9 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 3: Let me te. 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: KF I AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 11 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: Happy Saturday to you. 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 2: You're listening to KFI of course, and this is the 13 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: four Report. I'm your well fed host, Neil Savandra. 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: How do you do? Holding in my hand? A book 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: by my next guest? 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: Very talented artist Pumpkin Carver and Uh a former imagineer 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: with Disney. 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 4: Which is on an imagineer with Disney. 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: Are you do you still do work with them? 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 4: I'm a Camier Camier get Away, get Away imagineer. Well, 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 4: when they need me, they call me, and when they don't, 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: they put me back in the box. 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: I can wondered that. Do you do you ever leave? 24 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: Or is it like once you have like Seal Team 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: six or something, Once you have those abilities, they call 26 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: you back for projects. 27 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 4: Once an imagineer, always an imagine well, of course, but yes, 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: because I was very fast at what I did, they 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 4: would bring me back. And at one point they asked 30 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 4: me to come back and I said I wasn't able to. 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: I'll keep the reason why later, but I was unable to. 32 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 4: And so when I came, I said, how can I 33 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 4: be of service? And they said, well, we'll bring in 34 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: as a contractor and that allows me to do what 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: I do on the outside over here, and then once 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: they need me, they just reach out and say, hey, 37 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 4: are you free, and I say yes or no. I 38 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 4: call it the cat bird seat. 39 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's a great and of course that is 40 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: the voice of Terry Harden, who is we had her 41 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: on last year around this time to talk about pumpkin 42 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: carving and the like. Uh but you know, I've asked 43 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: my friend Derek to Derek Young to stay because he's 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: also a fan of Disney and the like and to 45 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: be able to sit and hang out with you as 46 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: a real treat as well. So when it comes to Disney, 47 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: you said that you were faster what you do. Every imagineer, 48 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: I imagine has to be sort of a universalist in the 49 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 2: sense that you have a bunch of skills, but you're 50 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: known for one what what's the skill that they lean 51 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: on you for. 52 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: They brought me in as a sculptor originally, and a 53 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 4: sculptor of hard foam, and that means the floral foam 54 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 4: that you often put flowers in. There's different grades. I 55 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 4: know you know this, there's different grades. 56 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 5: He knows that. 57 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: He's like, Okay, funny, Derek is the two. 58 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: The four pound phone, and the white foam is the 59 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: six pound foam. And for each one is for carving. 60 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 4: And one of the things that many companies realize because 61 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: I had been doing it for the film industry for 62 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 4: so long, and they'd bring in the green phone. And 63 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 4: when you carve the green foam, it creates static, which 64 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 4: means it gets all over you sure, which means you 65 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 4: try to spray yourself off, and then you go home 66 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 4: and someone who's unsuspecting and loves you and cares about 67 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 4: you gets it in their eye. It's like glass. So 68 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 4: I would come in and say, if you are willing 69 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 4: to invest in the gold, the gold falls to the ground. 70 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 4: And Disney said, this is fantastic. We don't need to 71 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 4: wear suits, we don't have to try and spray off 72 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: all we all we have to do is carve it. 73 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 4: So that's how a lot of the gold foam came in. 74 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: And that's that's an expertise that only comes from getting 75 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: that crap in your eye. I mean really, it's only 76 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: once you use any material and you start learning its 77 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: limitations and your limitations. 78 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: With it, is when you become an expert. 79 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: So and what was do you remember the very first 80 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: thing you ever carved out of Pham. 81 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: Big Thunder Mountain I did for Disney. That was the 82 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: thing for Big Thunder Paris was the first thing. And 83 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 4: then I went to battle for my Dragon's layer. So 84 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 4: underneath a castle in Paris there's a dragon, thirty five 85 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 4: foot dragon that is animated and roars and breezes fire. 86 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 4: And originally it was going to be stone, and I went, 87 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 4: are you kidding me? 88 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: Wait? 89 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 4: Aren't we Disney? Don't we animate stuff? What is it stone? 90 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: And I had to go to battle to fight for 91 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: it to be animated. And Tony Baxter, who was in charge, 92 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: the person I stood before, said okay, we'll do it, 93 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 4: but you got to design the attraction. And I remember 94 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 4: in my heart, I went, oh, but I just let 95 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 4: through the door. I tell everybody go through that door, 96 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: worry about how to do it later, right, I would 97 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 4: have been That's exactly what I did, Just go through 98 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: the door. 99 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: I got this, you know, because you can't know if 100 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: it's always if you're always going to be breaking new 101 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: ground in some form, and with a company like this 102 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: you have to. 103 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: Then you can't be sure of anything but yourself. 104 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 4: And I had never done an attraction before, but I 105 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 4: said to myself, if it's one thing I do know, 106 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 4: it's dragons. So I said, I'll just go in and 107 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 4: I'll make it for myself. And it became one of 108 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: the most popular attractions in Paris. 109 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: That's fair. 110 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 4: Even though it's not really an attraction. Everyone will say 111 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: it's not really attraction. 112 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 3: It's not, but I will say, as someone who just 113 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: recently visited a couple of years ago, it's absolutely fantastic 114 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: and probably my favorite thing in the entire park. 115 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 4: All that, I'm so glad that you got to see it, 116 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 4: because it breaks my heart when people say, oh, I 117 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 4: went to Paris, and I say, do you see did 118 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 4: you see my dragon? And they said there's a dragon 119 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 4: in Paris? And it just crushes you. 120 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: Do you do slap them hard? 121 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: Oh? 122 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 4: Oh? No, you got to go back to Paris now 123 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 4: and see the dragon and they're like, what do you mean? 124 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, because people save up to go 125 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 4: to these places, you want to make sure they that 126 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: they see. 127 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: So were you carving mccuts? Are you doing it to scale? 128 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: Are you creating that in full? 129 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 4: We we were carving models. I was first hired in 130 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 4: nineteen eighty seven, and it took them three months to 131 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 4: decide that I was someone that they wanted to have there. 132 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 4: Once I went there, they put me in what was 133 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 4: called the rock work division and we started carving Big 134 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 4: Thunder Mountain. And while we were doing that, the person 135 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: I was working with was not the easiest to get 136 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: along with, but they said, we think you're gregarious enough 137 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: you can do it. And I think the way we 138 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 4: ended up working together was I told him, you know, 139 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 4: we're equal level, and so if he doesn't want to 140 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 4: see me climb all over him when people of higher 141 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 4: authority want to hear about the attraction, then he needs 142 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 4: to enter. He needs to include me. He was just 143 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 4: a few days before me, and he said okay, And 144 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 4: then afterwards he really liked me and wanted me to 145 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 4: do the area where the queue and I said, no, 146 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 4: I'm I'm going to fight for dragons lair because I 147 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: had seen it and said, I paid my pen. Now 148 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 4: I want good for you. I want to do and 149 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 4: I asked for dragons learn and fought for it. 150 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: See, I'm fascinated by carving stone though, I mean carving 151 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: anything organic that has to make me believe that it's 152 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: real for part of the entertainment. To me, that's a 153 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: that's a difficult thing. 154 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: You bring up a really good point. So here's the thing. 155 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: Most most sculptures went rocks. You have to carve rocks. 156 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 4: How boring, And I said, have you ever carved rocks? 157 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 4: And they're well, no, but it's can't be like carving 158 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: a face or carving. But what I realized was when 159 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 4: you're sculpting, most of the time you go from A 160 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 4: to Z to carve rocks, you have to stop somewhere 161 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 4: on your way to Z because that's where you see 162 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 4: God is God moments. 163 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 164 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 4: So, because if you take it to the one hundred percent, 165 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: it looks fake and you can't do horsehead rock, you 166 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 4: can't do papoose rock because it looks fake. And that's 167 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 4: when you realize that you're going to have to back 168 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 4: off of that because you're not God. And I thought 169 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 4: that was really liberating, you know, learning to carve to 170 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: a certain point and then that's what kept it real. 171 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: But if you went too far, it was like, uh ah, yeah. 172 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: You get into that territory where your humanity is seen 173 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: more clearly and you start going that looks like the 174 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: set of Star Trek. 175 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: You're having as. 176 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, never me. All right, it's the Fork 177 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: Report Neil Savadre. As we celebrate Halloween this month. Of course, 178 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: we've got Terry Harden here master pumpkin carver and sculptress, 179 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 2: but also a book. This book I'm holding my hands 180 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: giggling pumpkin, pumpkin that you were kind enough to bring 181 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: to me for my boy. And it's got some art 182 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: in here by you as well, Disney Imagineer at all, 183 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: all that wonderful stuff. And we'll come back and talk 184 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: about pumpkins and some more. So go know where you're. 185 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 5: Listening to The Fork Report with Nil Savedra on demand 186 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 5: from KFI AM six forty. 187 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: Chatting with Terry Harden on the Fork Report right now. 188 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: And of course I'm always thrilled to talk with creatives 189 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: on the show, whether it's talking about food or right 190 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: now talking about the you know, the Halloween season and 191 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: participating in making food, creating you know, fun elements, whether 192 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: you're decorating the house on the inside, decorating on the outside, 193 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: and what a treat to have. 194 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: Terry back to the show. 195 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: She's a Disney imagineer, a sculptor, an artist, and she 196 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: loves pumpkin carving. And this is you know, this is 197 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: your super Bowl season two because you do a lot 198 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: of classes and teach people how to carve pumpkins, don't you. 199 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 4: Yes, I do. And this has been a tumultuous month 200 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 4: because people started wanting to book classes and then they 201 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: would say, I'd say, I like to provide the pumpkins 202 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: so that everybody has an equal chance of carving them. 203 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 4: A lot of people will go to a market and 204 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: carve a pumpkin. If you're a first timer, those market 205 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 4: pumpkins can be the devil and you would be trying 206 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 4: to carve it and you'd feel like if you've done it, 207 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 4: if it's your first time, you feel it's you because 208 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 4: that's what first timers do. I can't carve this pumpkin 209 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 4: the way I've seen terry do it? Why am I 210 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 4: having so much trouble? And if I'm there with you, 211 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 4: I can say because that pumpkin is terrible. And what 212 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 4: you need to do is go to a pumpkin patch 213 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: and find a couple of pumpkins that are really, very 214 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 4: very good for carving the dimensional carvings that you see 215 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 4: on outrageous pumpkins, which is the show that I'm the 216 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: judge on. 217 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: So do you if you really looked in someone's eyes 218 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: and said, darling, it's not you, it's the pumpkin. Oh yeah, 219 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I want to say that. 220 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 4: It's not you, it's the pumpkin. Here, let's get you 221 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 4: another one. 222 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 2: Okay, So is there a way? I mean, people are 223 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: I've tested every theory about choosing produce and watermelons everything. 224 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: How do you How do you pick a good pumpkin 225 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: for carving? 226 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 4: Don't go to the supermarket, don't go to Walmart, don't 227 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: go to a cheap place where they probably ordered them 228 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 4: from Mexico. No offense to Mexico, but Mexico has a 229 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 4: variety of pumpkin that is a lot like celery, and 230 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: if your tool catches it, it rips the pumpkin in half. 231 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 4: This is devastating for a beginner, and I don't like that, 232 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 4: so I always so this year I had to say, 233 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,599 Speaker 4: I'm doing a class up in Santa Anna with the 234 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: Vogel Victorian. She has a lot of followers, and she 235 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 4: reached out to me and we're doing a masterclass and 236 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: we're doing it next weekend on the twelfth. She said, 237 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 4: we're going to have to tell them to get their 238 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 4: own pumpkins because I want to make the price in August. 239 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 4: And I said, the pumpkins aren't available, they won't price 240 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 4: them yet, so to ander, So your question, the easiest 241 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 4: is a white ghost, but not the kind you see 242 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 4: at Walmart. The white ghosts have a shape and a ridge, 243 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 4: and the problem is that it's more closer to a 244 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 4: gored than it is a pumpkin. You want that super 245 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 4: smooth white ghost that looks almost like a cassaba, that 246 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 4: has that smooth, smooth feel, or you want to get 247 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 4: what's called a wolf wolf. It has what appears to 248 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 4: have a tree trunk growing out of it. The ratio 249 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 4: from pumpkin to stem is ridiculous, like the stem takes 250 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 4: up two thirds of the little bitty punkin underneath, or 251 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 4: the size of the pumpkin. If it's a basketball, it 252 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 4: has like a three inch or a two and a 253 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 4: half inch them that looks like a tree trunk. So 254 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 4: you know that that's a wolf. And that's the easiest 255 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 4: way to identify it. Go to a patch and if 256 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 4: you don't know, ask, But these classic jack lantern ones 257 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 4: are completely designed and created for jack landers for carving 258 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: a hole and putting a light inside. This technique that 259 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: I teach and many have seen is to carve like 260 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 4: the show and do faces and monsters and all kind 261 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: of skulls. 262 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: The flesh, the meat of the pumpkin stiff. 263 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: Wow, that is Those are great tips because people will 264 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 2: call me all the time about you know, I went 265 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: and got a pumpkin to try and make pumpkin pie 266 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: from scratch, and I said, oh, no, that's a different pumpkin. 267 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: You know, those sugar pumpkins are different and that you 268 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: can't just do it with a store pumpkin because they 269 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: are bred differently for different uses. I wouldn't cook with 270 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: them to begin with. But I never thought that carving 271 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: you're going to get in the celery. God, that sounds 272 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: horrible to think. 273 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 4: It's awful. 274 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: You hit something and then all of a sudden, it's 275 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: like pulling a zipper. 276 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 4: Now my husband was carving with me and this happened. 277 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 4: It was like a zipper, and then he took thread 278 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: and he stitched it back up. To me, Well, you're 279 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 4: still living with his wife because there are only happy actions. 280 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: He goes, okay, he did that. My dad, God rest 281 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: his soul, was an artist too. He said, use your mistakes. 282 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: Until I got into tattooing, I'm like, see it as easy. 283 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: The whole key is not to have them in this case. 284 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: And do you let the. 285 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, not to get sappy, but do you 286 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: let the pumpkin shape speak to you as far as 287 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: how you're going to what you're gonna put on it? 288 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: Or do you go in with, you know, looking for 289 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: a pumpkin that fits something that's in your head already. 290 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: It kind of depends on the pumpkin, It depends on 291 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 4: the class. I try to get people to do a face, eyes, nose, mouth, 292 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 4: teeth or no teeth, angry or not angry, because then 293 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 4: I can teach you the techniques and then you can 294 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: carve it. Learn the techniques and then you can go 295 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 4: off and carve another one with whatever you want. But 296 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 4: most of the people that come to my class have 297 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 4: an idea. They want to do a lot of Disney stuff. 298 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 4: They've seen Pumpkins on the internet. They want to do, 299 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 4: and my goal is to teach them, you know, to 300 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 4: do what picture they're doing. Because one of the things 301 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 4: I hate about classes, and I'm gonna catch it from 302 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 4: some of my outrageous Pumpkins contestants because they do one 303 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 4: thing and then they teach everybody. But the problem with 304 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 4: that is a beginner we'll look over at the person 305 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 4: next to them and go, oh, it's not that good, 306 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 4: and they'll put the tool down and they won't go 307 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 4: they won't go any further. So I can't have that 308 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 4: in my class with everyone doing something different that they're 309 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 4: passionate about. Yes, it's hard to work for me as 310 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 4: a teacher. I'm leaping around like a leprechat. But there's 311 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 4: so much when they're done, and they never look at 312 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 4: someone else and say that person is doing better than me, 313 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 4: because they're all different. 314 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: I love that, and that's that's a superior teaching method. 315 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: And it's a pain in the ass, like what you said, 316 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: I but it is because of the fact that like 317 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: our school system that tries to fit everybody into one mold, 318 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: you teach people on the level and the desire and 319 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: the passion of the individual. We'll talk more. Can you 320 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: stick around, sre Let's talk all right with Terry Harden. 321 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: She is a Disney imagineer. She is a pumpkin carver. 322 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: She is a delight and an artist and a kindred spirit. 323 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: And we'll talk more about pumpkin carving when we return 324 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: on the Fork Report. 325 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 5: You're listening to The Fork Report with Nil Savedra on 326 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 5: demand from KFI AM six forty. 327 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: Thanks for hanging out with us today. The holidays are 328 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: upon us, and of course I'm a big fan of Halloween, 329 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: and then Thanksgiving is you know, foodies uniting to be 330 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: thankful via food, and then Christmas and all that stuff. 331 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: So it just is I love this time of year, 332 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: and so we're making sure each shows chalk filled with 333 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: holiday stuff. And we talked about building props for a 334 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: haunt if you want to do that in your front yard. 335 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: We're talking right now with Terry Harden. She's an imagineer 336 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 2: for Disney and she is a sculptor and an artist, 337 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: and she teaches people how to carve pumpkins, and obviously 338 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: she just taught us how to even pick the right 339 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: pumpkin for carving. I never thought about that. And I've 340 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 2: carved pumpkins before, and I've experimented with all kinds of different, uh, 341 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 2: you know, methods, but I never thought that there's a 342 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: species or a type of pumpkin that I should be 343 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 2: looking for, even though I've carved a gorge and you know, 344 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: or you know, having this, you know, a squash which 345 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: is the same family and everything, and the flesh is different, yes, 346 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: and that you know you could tell, but I never 347 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: thought so the wolf with. 348 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: The wolf with the big step. 349 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 4: Easy ones, but like on the Show of Outrageous Pumpkins, 350 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: there's a great one if you can find it, mostly 351 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: at patches, called the big mac or the prize winner. 352 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 4: Now a lot of times prize winners grow really really huge, 353 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 4: but a big mac can be about one hundred, two 354 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty pounds. But that's that's lovely about these, 355 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 4: and I try to get them for beginners. Is the 356 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 4: wall is about four inches thick. When you take the 357 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 4: covering off, you have four inches of depth to play with. 358 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 4: And this was usually the pumpkins I would carve for 359 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 4: shows like True Blood or Desperate Housewives or many of them. 360 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: Many people would have me carve them for parties and stuff, 361 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 4: and I would always say, you know, I can carve 362 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 4: it for you, but take my video and take my 363 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 4: tools and I'll teach you how to do it. And 364 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 4: the class is only like one hundred bucks instead of 365 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 4: five or six to have me do it. 366 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: You know. 367 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: Wow, that's super cool. 368 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: You know. 369 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 4: So it's and my Patreon page, which is something that 370 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 4: is just great because people it's the one place they 371 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 4: can find me live and live. We do a call 372 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 4: each week on Patreon page, and this is something that 373 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 4: they all love to do. So we tried to get 374 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 4: together and do it. This year's been a little bit 375 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: crazier than usual because we lost the location that we 376 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 4: were going to do it at, but I said, you know, 377 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 4: so now we've relocated to a place in seem Valley 378 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 4: and we're going to do it on Wednesday, the twenty ninth, 379 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 4: and it's eighty dollars and I will provide the pumpkin 380 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: and they will be a smaller big mac. 381 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: Wow, so good. 382 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: I love that. God bless Patreon. I'm got to tell 383 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 2: you something about artistry. This could be actors, singers, performers, artists. 384 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 2: So there was always a gatekeeper, so someone made money 385 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: off of the artistry for you to do what you do. 386 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: Patreon moves out out of. 387 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 2: The way and allows those of us that love what 388 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 2: artists do to directly pay to them. Of course Patreon 389 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 2: takes its portion or what have you, but there's no 390 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 2: gatekeepers anymore that says, oh, you can only do your 391 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 2: art if you do it through our system and we 392 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: get the cut. Whether it's you know, recording artists, whether 393 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: it's actors or writers or whatever. That owning your own 394 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 2: craft is important and it's one of the reasons why 395 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: I do what I can to support our artists that 396 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: I enjoy because you know, so I love that you're 397 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: on Patreon as well. 398 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: And even Derek's good, Well, you can still do well 399 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 4: on it because people find you and they say, you know, 400 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 4: I want to support what you're doing. I want to 401 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 4: support the support your giving and stuff like that. And 402 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 4: I have a YouTube channel and an Instagram page and 403 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 4: all of that. It's best just to google my name. 404 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 4: It's easier. Terry Harten dot com is my website. But 405 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 4: Patreon is a place that I've decided as I work 406 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 4: towards semi retirement. No artist ever retires, that that's where 407 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 4: I'm going to be live. So if you want to 408 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 4: talk to me live, that's where you're going to be 409 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 4: able to do it. Unless I'm at a venue like 410 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 4: these sure, courses and classes and stuff. 411 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: I love it. 412 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 2: So there's got to be someone listening that. And I 413 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 2: don't just mean that, by the way, Kayla, there's got 414 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: to be someone listening. 415 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: I know there's people that there's got to be I'm 416 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: sorry to say something, what. 417 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: There's we know there's people listening. My point being that 418 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: that are looking to get into carving pumpkins, you've told 419 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: them what kind of pumpkins they should look into what 420 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: are the tools because it can also be dangerous too, 421 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: because the sticky nature of the flesh and a sharp 422 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: blade and all of that. 423 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: So what's the best tools to carve with? 424 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 4: Well, now, on outrageous pumpkins, the pros use all different 425 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 4: kinds of tools, including knives and chainsaws and all kinds 426 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 4: of crazies. Sure, but for the beginner, you can use 427 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 4: a ceramic sculpting tool, which is a loop tool that 428 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 4: is often used in ceramics. The difference is it has 429 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: a beveled edge, so it's not a soft tool. It's 430 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 4: got edges on it. And I have a set of 431 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 4: tools you can buy at my store by going to 432 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 4: Terryharn dot com click on online store, and then you 433 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 4: can say. 434 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: That's cool, So that's what they need. 435 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've taken about four if you don't know, but 436 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 4: a lot of people who do sculpting or ceramics sculpting, 437 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 4: they're going to see these tools and go, I have 438 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 4: a set right here. You know, you may not want 439 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: to gum them up with pumpkin, but you know what 440 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 4: it is and you know, and they're made by Kemper. 441 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 4: And we almost lost Kemper, but Sculpture House picked them 442 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 4: up and so I didn't get to lose I didn't 443 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 4: have to lose those tools. I'm very very fun. 444 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: Doesn't that stink? 445 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: When things change or don't change hands and they go 446 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 2: away and nobody picks up the legacy or the molds 447 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 2: or the techniques or those types of thing. That's very 448 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: frustrating because artists are a picky bunch and once you 449 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 2: find something you love and this is. 450 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 4: A beautiful tool, it's made in the USA. I've carved 451 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: with it since I was about twenty fifteen, twenty years old, 452 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 4: so I was devastated when I heard it might not have. 453 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't gonna go away. It was gonna 454 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 4: go wait. I think everybody was buying a big amount 455 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 4: of them. And then Sculpture House stepped in and said 456 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 4: we're going to adopt it. So it's still good. It's 457 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 4: still there. You don't have to rely on a cheap 458 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 4: tool from somewhere else. You can actually get those Kemper 459 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 4: tools and they're gonna they're gonna do right by you. 460 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 4: And there really are wonderful for carving pumpkins. 461 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: Do you freehand on the pumpkin? If so, what kind 462 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: of marker or do you use? And then two, is 463 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 2: there stencils or anything that a newbie would want to 464 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: like you about. 465 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 4: Some of my some of my students want to stencil 466 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 4: because they feel comfortable. I'll usually just map it out 467 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 4: with Kember makes a mini ribbon tool. It's a tiny 468 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 4: tool and once you've taken the skin off, you can, 469 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 4: by the way you use it, draw with that tool, 470 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 4: so you can dig in about a I'd say a 471 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 4: sixteenth of an inch to do your drawing, and if 472 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 4: you don't like it, then you take one of the 473 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 4: bigger kemper tools and scrape it off. Because remember you've 474 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 4: got walls that are two inches or four inches, so 475 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: scraping it off isn't going to do much to the 476 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 4: thickness of your pumpkins. So you can do it several 477 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 4: times and really get that depth and all of that 478 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 4: really and then I light mine, which. 479 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: Okay, that's my next question. So lighting them, you have 480 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: to think and reverse. The thinner the wall, the brighter 481 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: the light is going to shine through the thicker the 482 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: wall is going to be your shadows. 483 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 4: Yes, and they are gorgeous. You get roses and peach color. 484 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 4: And if you get certain ghosts, like there's a farm 485 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 4: in More Park which I can't remember the name of it, 486 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 4: but they have ghosts, and some of the ghosts when 487 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 4: you take the flesh off, are peach or pink underwood 488 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 4: underwood farms. 489 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: I was just looking it up. I think it's underwood farms, 490 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: and we can. 491 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 4: See these ghosts. They're about the size of the large 492 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 4: medicine ball or basketball, and sometimes when you take the 493 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 4: white off of it, they are like a casaba mel 494 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 4: and they're white or they're peach, and peach is like 495 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: winning at the lottery because they're just beautiful peach color 496 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 4: in the daylight. But then when they're lit, you get 497 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: all of that as well. But the closer you go 498 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 4: to the light, the brighter the light. So you think 499 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 4: of a hole in a jack lantern and then anywhere 500 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 4: from the outside where it can be black to and 501 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 4: in between that that strictrum, and you can really create 502 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 4: some wonderful things. And lighting them is really good because 503 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 4: your beginner is going to carve and they're going to 504 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 4: feel you'll always get one person you're asking, you know, 505 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: do you have to kind of coax them along? And 506 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 4: I had one woman she cried the whole time she 507 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: was and I said to her, I said, you're only 508 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 4: an inch deep. You have three inches to go. Let's 509 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 4: fix this. It's fine, You're just not far enough. And 510 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 4: then when we took it into a booth and we 511 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 4: put a light in it, she cried because she couldn't 512 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 4: believe how gorgeous it was. So it was just someone 513 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 4: who just had heard that voice that people often say 514 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 4: to you, which is don't quit your day job. What's 515 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 4: that supposed to sure? What makes you think you're an artist? 516 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 4: Don't let someone else tell you what you can do 517 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: and how you can do it. And I do the 518 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 4: pumpkins to help everyone realize that they are artists. You're 519 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 4: just listening to the wrong voice. 520 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: And stick around. 521 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 2: We'll have one final segments as we usher in Tiffany Hobbs, 522 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: who comes up at five o'clock. 523 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: We'll chat just a little bit more. 524 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 5: You're listening to the Fork Report with Nil Savedra on 525 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 5: demand from KFI AM six forty. 526 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 2: All things food, beverage and beyond. A lot of beyond 527 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: today because when it comes to the holidays, there's lots 528 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 2: of things that I like to talk about, decorating your house, 529 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: having fun. I'd like building props. As you know, carving 530 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: pumpkins is wonderful. So Derek Young has been sitting in 531 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 2: with us from van Oux Props. You have a hant 532 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 2: list that I wanted you to talk about where people 533 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 2: could see other people that do stuff to their houses 534 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 2: in the life. 535 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 536 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: Over the last thirteen, I guess fourteen years, I've been 537 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 3: putting together an annual list of all of the free 538 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 3: events that people can go to and check out, and 539 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 3: most of them are just normal people who like to 540 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 3: decorate really extremely like myself. And so if you want 541 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 3: to find out about home haunts that are in your area, 542 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: you can go to socowhuntlist dot com. It's great for 543 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: people who just enjoy seeing Halloween decorations. If you are 544 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 3: one of those people who likes to decorate for Halloween, 545 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 3: you can submit your information and hopefully we get some 546 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 3: more bodies out there to see the hard work that 547 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 3: you've put your time and energy into. 548 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: I love that. That's awesome. 549 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: Give the address again. 550 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 3: It's so cow haunt list dot com excellent. 551 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: And of course Terry Harden Pumpkin Carver, Disney imagineer artist, 552 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 2: extraordinary and just a delightful human. I've loved getting to 553 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: know you throughout having you on and we you know, 554 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: connect off the air as well through texts and whatnot. 555 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: Let everybody know where they can find out more about 556 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: you again. 557 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 4: First place you can go to Terryharden dot com. That's 558 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 4: going to take you to my Instagram, my YouTube, but 559 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 4: YouTube is it's Terry. You can do Terry Harden slash. 560 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 4: It's Terry. I do my best to do a broadcast 561 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 4: every Monday and just talk about the upcoming news like 562 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 4: the figure from of Walt Disney was one of the 563 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 4: later ones I did as I discussed that, gotcha. Yeah. 564 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 4: Then then there's the instag you know Instagram, which is 565 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 4: Terry Harden legend. So the best thing to do is 566 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 4: to google and then it'll come through and tell you 567 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 4: and then write to me if you have questions at 568 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 4: Terry at Terryharten dot com. 569 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's very lovely that you keep yourself so 570 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: accessible to other creatives and people that. 571 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: Want to learn. Thanks for taking time, Come on, it's 572 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: nice to see you. 573 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 4: Thank you for asking me, Thank you for of course 574 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 4: you're a perennial a fan of this station. 575 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: Oh you know what, we never ever hate hearing that. 576 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 4: I know and I can't stop saying. My husband is like, 577 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 4: I have to do two things already on my in 578 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 4: my car, so when I use his car, I don't 579 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 4: have to search for it. 580 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: It's what we like to hear. And what you'll be 581 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: listening to on your way home is this next lady, Tiffany. 582 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: Hobbs, how are you well? 583 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 6: You have two so cow legends in here, Terry, I'm 584 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 6: I'm stars struck. I'm often stars struck following Neil because 585 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 6: he has the best guests. But no one has ever 586 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 6: come in here with that jacket that you have here, 587 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 6: Terry with the soles on it. You can leave that 588 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 6: behind and you leave as a party gift for your 589 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 6: love for the station. 590 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 4: Or design you myself. 591 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 6: Please, that is inredible. Oh my god, but I'm well, 592 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 6: how are you, Neil? 593 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: Hello, that's all right, it's okay. Hi show. 594 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, this is leading into your show. This is 595 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 2: where we do the handshake. 596 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 6: Yes, and you grab the baton on and hopefully not 597 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 6: drop it. 598 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: No, I never do. I enjoy your show. 599 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: And I told you when I saw you today that 600 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: I'm very proud of you. I think you do a 601 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: fantastic job. I love balance and thought. 602 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: It's very easy to beat the ejaculatory and on the station. 603 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: And I like thinkers. 604 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 4: Thank you. I like to think. 605 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 6: And you're an artist as well, and I'm an artist. 606 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 6: I'm a photographer. Yeah, so I'm not an imagineer. I 607 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 6: would never consider myself you know, your legion, either of yours. 608 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 6: But I am an artist, so I appreciate everything you do. 609 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 6: Thank you. I put the Socowhunt list dot com into 610 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 6: my phone because I love a good haunt, so I'll 611 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 6: be looking at that sight. 612 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: I love it. I love I don't know. I love 613 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: making leave. 614 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: And the more real you can make it, the more 615 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: I suspend disbelief, the better. 616 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: And I love that. So what's going on tonight on 617 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: the Tiffany? 618 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 4: Speaking of real things? 619 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 6: We have quite a few updates about some huge stories 620 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 6: in the news and deep dive at six o'clock speaking 621 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 6: of haunts and speaking of real and speaking of not 622 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 6: real big show. 623 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 2: It is weird when the younger generation watches Star Wars 624 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: and thinks the only one that speaks correctly is Yoda. 625 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: Like that, Now that's guy. 626 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: Everybody else is talking weird with all these full sentences 627 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: and syntax and all that stuff. 628 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: Weird. 629 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 6: Remember when Dystopia used to be kind of a figment 630 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 6: of the imagination Joe, And now it's here. 631 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got Dystopia before we got flying cars. 632 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 6: Seriously, or as the kids would say, before GTA six. 633 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 6: Yeah there you go. Always good to see you. 634 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: I will be listening and have a wonderful show thanks 635 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 2: to my wonderful guests. Would be Halloween, and we will 636 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: catch you again next week. 637 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: Have empathy, be kind to each other. It's free. 638 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: This is KFI and KOSTHD two Los Angeles, Orange County. 639 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: You've been listening to the Fork Report. 640 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 2: You can always hear us live on KFI AM six 641 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: forty two to five pm on Saturday, and anytime on 642 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: demand on the iHeartRadio app