Speaker 1: All right, twelve oh seven, welcome on in. It's the
Speaker 1: average American in for the great American on this Thursday.
Speaker 1: Downtown Cincinnati will be a buzz tonight. Thus stubllers are
Speaker 1: in town. Oh, I can only imagine, and I will
Speaker 1: only imagine because I leave my couch. There's no way.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's put it this way. Whenever this game happens.
Speaker 1: As much as I like to be at games, if
Speaker 1: it's a night game against Pittsburgh, Homie ain't leaving home.
Speaker 1: That's just the way it is. But nevertheless, it's the
Speaker 1: Steelers tonight in town to take on the Bengals, what's
Speaker 1: left of the Bengals for a Thursday night game. And
Speaker 1: it will be interesting to see exactly how the rest
Speaker 1: of downtown Cincinnati behaves because it has been, as you know,
Speaker 1: and as we've been talking about on this radio station,
Speaker 1: it seems like since the middle of this summer, it
Speaker 1: is a dicey proposition every time the sun goes down
Speaker 1: on Cincinnati. So we'll see what tonight brings. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there will be, as always with any Bengals game night
Speaker 1: or noon, a very strong police presence. But who exactly
Speaker 1: will be the chief of Cincinnati's police force when the
Speaker 1: sun goes down tonight. According to the Inquirer, the city
Speaker 1: is negotiating with the current police chief, Thereesa Thiji to resign.
Speaker 1: She has been called back from Denver, from where all
Speaker 1: these police chiefs were meeting at a conference, and called
Speaker 1: back quickly by the city manager, Cheryl Long. So it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like she's long for the police world here
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. But somebody else who knows and knows that
Speaker 1: this might not be the best thing for the City
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati to do is standing by to join us
Speaker 1: right now. He, of course, is Cincinnati Fraternal Order of
Speaker 1: Police President Ken kobt Ket. How are you on this
Speaker 1: glorious day.
Speaker 2: I'm doing great.
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm well.
Speaker 1: They're going to can Thiji, aren't they.
Speaker 2: I suspect it's coming. It's just a matter of time.
Speaker 1: From what I've seen in the comments you've made, she's
Speaker 1: nothing more than a scapegoat here, Is that right?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Without a doubt.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is the problem, and I've told other
Speaker 4: media outlets the same thing is getting rid of her
Speaker 4: is not fixing the problem. It's just not You have
Speaker 4: a mayor that is telling her what to do, and
Speaker 4: she does it perfect excuse me, perfect example, the chief
Speaker 4: has asked the mayor for the last year to go
Speaker 4: meet with CPS figure out what we're going to do
Speaker 4: with these kids that are coming down.
Speaker 2: Here to these bus stops, and he just refuses to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 4: She's gone to the mayor and say, listen, you've got
Speaker 4: to do something with these judges. Put pressure on these
Speaker 4: judges to give high bonds, put pressure on these judges
Speaker 4: to lock these violent people up and keep them locked
Speaker 4: up because the police are doing what they're supposed to
Speaker 4: be doing. And the bottom line is the marriage hasn't
Speaker 4: done it. So to use her as a scapegoat when
Speaker 4: she's done anything that the mayor has asked her to do,
Speaker 4: it's not going to fix the problem. We're going to
Speaker 4: continue in this until we have either a chief that
Speaker 4: works independently of elected officials, or we have a mayor
Speaker 4: that's going to fully support protecting the city.
Speaker 2: That's the bottom line.
Speaker 1: Well, we've got a mayor's election, as you well know,
Speaker 1: coming up here in November, and it would seem to
Speaker 1: me that the current mayor have to have Purivo found
Speaker 1: religion about all of this. Along about July when he
Speaker 1: came back from his family vacation in Vancouver. And obviously,
Speaker 1: now well, I mean, I mean, let's let's be honest here,
Speaker 1: Purvial is going to get reelected. It may not be
Speaker 1: what the amount of vote that he got the first time.
Speaker 1: He's going to be the mayor here again, unless something
Speaker 1: cataclysmic happens. It's the city of Cincinnati and the entire
Speaker 1: county of Hamilton County have turned blue. But you've you've
Speaker 1: you've hit the problem on the head can and that's judges.
Speaker 1: We have a largely Democrat bench in the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: You guys, the police, you know exactly who these these
Speaker 1: criminals and these thugs are, and so they bring you,
Speaker 1: You bring them in. Maybe they stay in jail for
Speaker 1: a while, maybe they get bailed out, maybe bond is
Speaker 1: said at an increasingly low level. We've seen that this
Speaker 1: summer as well. And then they go through the prosecutorial
Speaker 1: process and they're prosecuted, and they wind up in front
Speaker 1: of a judge, and the judge wants to be crusader
Speaker 1: rabbit and turn a criminal back out on the street
Speaker 1: because we want to rehabilitate the criminal. And then tomorrow
Speaker 1: it's rinse and repeat. There's the problem, is it not?
Speaker 4: Oh, without a doubt, I was told yesterday and this
Speaker 4: is an absolute staggering fact. There are four people that
Speaker 4: are under indictment for murder right now that are walking
Speaker 4: around our communities.
Speaker 2: They're out on EMU. They murder and they're out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just given the current makeup of the bench
Speaker 1: in Hamlin County. It does not surprise me because there
Speaker 1: is a there is a philosophical belief that everybody should
Speaker 1: be rehabilitated. No, their ass should be thrown in jail.
Speaker 1: Just like these two nutballs that went through Fountain Square
Speaker 1: a couple of nights ago, shooting it up and shooting
Speaker 1: at innocent people in a restaurant ought to be in jail.
Speaker 1: I know you're still looking for a couple of them,
Speaker 1: or one of them at least, but you got I mean,
Speaker 1: if the video is there, the gun is there, the
Speaker 1: gun is tied to the guy, the guy needs to
Speaker 1: be put in jail. But we both know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen, don't we.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, two of the people involved in that. One was
Speaker 4: out on bond for an aggravated robbery. Another person involved
Speaker 4: was just recently placed on community control or probation, if
Speaker 4: you will, for a pistol whipping offense that occurred earlier
Speaker 4: this year. So it's no surprise that these things are happening.
Speaker 4: It's no surprise that it's going to continue to happen
Speaker 4: until we decide and these judges decide that they're going
Speaker 4: to lock up these people that are continuing to commit
Speaker 4: violent crime. And part of that is we have an election.
Speaker 4: Know who the candidates are, know who the candidates that
Speaker 4: support law and order. Get those judges in office, and
Speaker 4: maybe we'll see a change.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know a little bit about this, not a lot,
Speaker 1: but certainly I know a little bit about this. The
Speaker 1: recidivism rate is extremely high, and one would guess that
Speaker 1: there are people right now that you and your fellow
Speaker 1: officers see on a daily basis, and you know it's
Speaker 1: just a matter of time before they do something again. Everybody,
Speaker 1: not all of these people that can make crimes, but
Speaker 1: a large number, you know, are just going to be
Speaker 1: right back at it the minute they get out of
Speaker 1: jail or the minute they're turned loose into the community.
Speaker 1: You know these people are, don't.
Speaker 2: You, absolutely? And that's just it.
Speaker 4: I mean, you've got a community of three hundred thousand
Speaker 4: people and you might have five hundred to one thousand.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about that.
Speaker 4: Five hundred to one thousand of people are driving all
Speaker 4: of the crime in this city, and the number might
Speaker 4: actually be lower.
Speaker 2: But when you look at that.
Speaker 4: From the perspective, there's three hundred thousand people in this city.
Speaker 4: That's a low number. So why are we not finding
Speaker 4: those people and keeping them locked up? Because they're finding them.
Speaker 4: The comps are doing a fantastic job. You go back
Speaker 4: to the Fountain Square. You know that they had two
Speaker 4: shootings in two weeks and they've made these arrests, They've
Speaker 4: recovered the guns. It's not the police that aren't doing
Speaker 4: their job. The judges have got to step up.
Speaker 1: Is theg popular inside the rank and file. I know
Speaker 1: there's this this lawsuit involving officer Tony Nash twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four lawsuit. The judge throughout half of the half of
Speaker 1: the charges I guess it was late August, but four
Speaker 1: of them were allowed to go forward. You had what,
Speaker 1: you know, the terrible thing that that happened in over
Speaker 1: the Rhine with the shooting of Heninger. I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: just wondering is she popular with her with her rank
Speaker 1: and file.
Speaker 2: Well, to be honest, it depends on how to ask.
Speaker 4: I mean, there are certainly people in this department that
Speaker 4: don't agree with things she's done, and there's people that have.
Speaker 4: But there is one thing that every officer that I've
Speaker 4: talked to in the last twenty four hours agrees with
Speaker 4: is she's getting railroaded, even their officers that don't necessarily
Speaker 4: care for her, that have reached out to me and said, listen,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not the biggest fan of hers, but
Speaker 4: this is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: She's getting railroaded.
Speaker 4: She's nothing but a political pond, and that's one thing
Speaker 4: everybody agrees on.
Speaker 1: Well, it looks like she's I mean, look, if they
Speaker 1: hauled her back from a conference in Denver overnight and
Speaker 1: they're trying to negotiate her way out, you know, to
Speaker 1: avoid litigation, she's gone. It's just a matter of when.
Speaker 1: This is an open ended question, and I know that
Speaker 1: the answer to it is someone somewhere. But who would
Speaker 1: want to walk into this situation right now and become
Speaker 1: the chief of police in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Without a doubt?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 4: And the travesty of all this is the men and
Speaker 4: women that still go out every day and put this
Speaker 4: uniform on amidst all this chaos that's going on at
Speaker 4: City Hall and a chaos that's going on with the
Speaker 4: command staff dealing.
Speaker 2: With the chief.
Speaker 4: They still go out every day, they put their uniform
Speaker 4: on and they're dealing with this. You know, those are
Speaker 4: the people that should be giving all of the credit
Speaker 4: in the world that amidst all of this nonsense, they're
Speaker 4: still going out and protecting the city. But to your point,
Speaker 4: who would want to do it? Who would want to
Speaker 4: step in I deal with this, with this mess that's
Speaker 4: going on right now?
Speaker 1: Well that's it. It looks like that we all know
Speaker 1: city Council, regardless of the makeup of it, has been
Speaker 1: dysfunctional as long as I've been in town, and I've
Speaker 1: been in town on and all for the last forty
Speaker 1: five years. I mean, there was a time when there
Speaker 1: was some serenity when Charlie Luken was mayor. There seemed
Speaker 1: to be a process where things got done. I think
Speaker 1: he was a guy that got things done. Now it
Speaker 1: just seems like, you know, every time you turn your
Speaker 1: head around, there's somebody making a nitwit statement where the
Speaker 1: mayor goes missing or things like that. So if you're
Speaker 1: the mayor, for example, of Fort Wayne, Indiana, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: the police chief in Fort Wayne, Indiana, or perhaps in Frisco, Texas,
Speaker 1: or wherever they may look next, and you're looking at Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: you're saying to yourself, do I really want that headache?
Speaker 1: I may wait for the next train to come and
Speaker 1: take me someplace else where. At least I got a
Speaker 1: fighting chance. But you and I both know there are
Speaker 1: probably people inside the rank and file. Somebody that's sitting
Speaker 1: there that's politically motivated inside the force right now would
Speaker 1: probably want to say, yeah, take a shot at this.
Speaker 1: I mean there will be somebody right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there.
Speaker 4: Believe me, there are more than qualified people. We have
Speaker 4: several people in this department that are capable of running
Speaker 4: a police department. It all comes down to as a
Speaker 4: matter of are they going to be allowed? Are they
Speaker 4: going to be allowed to take this department and run
Speaker 4: it the way they see fit? Are we going to
Speaker 4: continue with what we have right now, which is city
Speaker 4: hall dictating what the chief's going to do.
Speaker 2: All right, that's okay, nothing's going to change.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So what is this thing I read on
Speaker 1: Fountain Square we're going to beep up. We're going to
Speaker 1: beep up security between two o'clock in the afternoon at
Speaker 1: ten o'clock at night. I mean, I read that the
Speaker 1: other day, and the first thing that struck me was, well,
Speaker 1: the criminals can set a wake up call for ten
Speaker 1: thirty at night and they're open for business. What's the
Speaker 1: wisdom behind just a certain finite number of hours every day.
Speaker 2: Optics?
Speaker 4: Quite honestly, I mean, why you would announce that, I
Speaker 4: don't know, because to your point, okay, well they're going
Speaker 4: to be there from two to ten.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: If I'm going to go cause a ruckus, it's either
Speaker 2: going to be at one o'clock or eleven o'clock. Why
Speaker 2: you would announce that.
Speaker 4: I have no idea other than the fact that you
Speaker 4: want to show that you're doing something, that we're gonna
Speaker 4: make this safe and we're doing something.
Speaker 2: Here's what we're doing instead of just doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I mean, I mean, to me, it
Speaker 1: was just it was a foolish thing to do, all right.
Speaker 1: So the FOP get no confidence vote in pure boll
Speaker 1: back a couple of months ago in August. You know
Speaker 1: what we have in town that I we and we
Speaker 1: will have continuing through the course of the fall, in
Speaker 1: the winter, many events in downtown Cincinnati. They put a
Speaker 1: skating rink up on Fountain Square. We have the Bengals
Speaker 1: playing occasionally in primetime football. Well, what do you tell
Speaker 1: of the average person that's going to be driving in,
Speaker 1: perhaps not from Hamilton County, but from Warren County, Butler
Speaker 1: County wherever to watch this game tonight, or anything else
Speaker 1: that might transpire on a nightly basis, daily basis. Helly,
Speaker 1: we got shootings in broad daylight. What would you tell
Speaker 1: them about the safety and the security of downtown Cincinnati
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 2: You better be aware of your surroundings. You better stay
Speaker 2: in large groups.
Speaker 4: That that is going to minimize your risk of becoming
Speaker 4: a victim. But quite honestly, I would park as close
Speaker 4: to the stadium. I can go to the game and
Speaker 4: then win. It's over, get out of dodge.
Speaker 1: Well, if you park, if you pack around Fountain Square
Speaker 1: like tonight's game, it sounds like you better get out
Speaker 1: of there at halftime. I mean if it runs out
Speaker 1: at ten o'clock at night. Man, I ain't walking up
Speaker 1: the Fountain Square at ten o'clock at night, would you.
Speaker 4: No, But you have to understand, especially a game you know,
Speaker 4: like this obviously Thursday night football, there are going to
Speaker 4: be probably between one hundred one hundred and fifty cops
Speaker 4: somewhere around there that are gonna be working that are
Speaker 4: going to make absolutely every effort to make sure that
Speaker 4: the people that come here are going to be here
Speaker 4: in a safe environment. But with that being said, cops
Speaker 4: can't be everywhere. So like I said, it's it's it's
Speaker 4: gonna hopefully it's going to be a great night in
Speaker 4: Sea Cincinnati, but be aware of your surroundings. And they said,
Speaker 4: as soon as the game's over, I would be certainly
Speaker 4: heading back to where I came from.
Speaker 1: Ken Cole, I should know this, and I don't. How
Speaker 1: long have you been on the force.
Speaker 2: I'm the police department for twenty five years.
Speaker 1: Who's the best chief you had?
Speaker 4: You know, there's two debates for this. I will tell
Speaker 4: you personally, Chief Striker hired me twice, once as a
Speaker 4: police get at it and once as a police officer,
Speaker 4: so I certainly have a lot of respect for him.
Speaker 4: And then we had James Craig, who I'll tell you
Speaker 4: what you ask anybody that's been around when James Craig
Speaker 4: was here, what he brought to Cincinnati in the short
Speaker 4: time that he was here was nothing short of phenomenal.
Speaker 4: And it's ironic because he was the chief that was
Speaker 4: the first one that was hired outside of our department,
Speaker 4: and was the first one hired under Issue five, which
Speaker 4: meant that they could essentially try to make a fire
Speaker 4: you for pretty much whatever reason, and the city hall
Speaker 4: could cold what you did. He was here for two
Speaker 4: years and not a day more because he refused to
Speaker 4: cave into city Hall and they got rid of him
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 1: I knew Striker. I knew Craig Striker couldn't work in
Speaker 1: the environment that exists in this town right now as
Speaker 1: a police chief. And Craig wouldn't even look at it. Twice.
Speaker 1: I know he got into politics when he went up
Speaker 1: to Michigan, and if that's the step he wants to take,
Speaker 1: great But in this current environment, neither one of those
Speaker 1: two guys would work here. I guarantee you want to
Speaker 1: work here.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, you look and we had you Elliot Isaac.
Speaker 2: You know, with the environment that he had working, he
Speaker 2: did a great job.
Speaker 4: Chief Fiji's done a great job with the environment in
Speaker 4: which he has to work in. But these, you know,
Speaker 4: the days of Chief Striker being able to run the
Speaker 4: department the way that he saw fit. Those ended when
Speaker 4: he retired and we won't see that again. And that's
Speaker 4: the problem.
Speaker 1: So you say replacing the chief is not the answer.
Speaker 1: There are three options reappeal issue five. So the chief
Speaker 1: isn't under the thumb of an elected official. I'm reading
Speaker 1: your words back to you. Convinced the mayor to allowed
Speaker 1: the chief to do his or her job independently, or
Speaker 1: put a new mayor in Well, I you know, as
Speaker 1: much as I think the Republican side of this would
Speaker 1: love to see Corey Bowman have a chance, I think
Speaker 1: you're now to your top two there, And of those
Speaker 1: top two, what do you think the most likely thing
Speaker 1: to happen is? I think it's neither as what you
Speaker 1: don't want to say. But what do you think the
Speaker 1: most likely chance is?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the more likely thing would be coming
Speaker 4: up with a ballot initiative and get to convince the
Speaker 4: voters that we have got to allow the police chief
Speaker 4: to work.
Speaker 2: There are ways that.
Speaker 4: This charter amendment could be could be at least, if
Speaker 4: not repealed, that can be amended. That affords the chief
Speaker 4: some protections to run the department that they see fit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, ultimately what has to happen, you know,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Ken, the answer to all of our questions in life
Speaker 1: is money. And all it's going to take is two
Speaker 1: or three high profile businesses to move out of downtown
Speaker 1: Cincinnati unless they can corral this stuff. And that's going
Speaker 1: to be what is the impetus to change all this stuff?
Speaker 1: Money buys attention, and I think invariably, unless this thing
Speaker 1: is corralled, you're going to get that. You'll get two
Speaker 1: or three high profile businesses move out, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden people will start getting religion on this stuff.
Speaker 1: That's the way it works, isn't it.
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: That's a sad part is because I don't want to
Speaker 4: see any business leaf. I want to see this place thrive.
Speaker 4: But you know something has to change.
Speaker 1: Well, Ken Kober, we always appreciate you having you on.
Speaker 1: We'll see who you're cheap is by sundown tonight. My
Speaker 1: guess is it won't be Teresa Thiji. It may not
Speaker 1: be anyone for a while. We'll see. But for your
Speaker 1: time today. We certainly appreciate it. You stay well, okay.
Speaker 2: Yep, you as well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: You bet, it is a mess. And let me just
Speaker 1: think of that. If you're Thiji, you go to Denver,
Speaker 1: You're with all of your peers out there, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're yanked back into town. And now,
Speaker 1: if you're going to do that to somebody, why don't
Speaker 1: you just do that before they leave? So you've got
Speaker 1: embarrassment on top of what sounds like problems with the
Speaker 1: rank and file of the cops. But we have Monday
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Speaker 1: Average American in for the Great American on this Thursday
Speaker 1: on the show today coming up one oh six. This
Speaker 1: peace plan that the President negotiated with all these other countries,
Speaker 1: how long do you think it's going to take before
Speaker 1: Hamas turns that thing upside down? They've already kind of
Speaker 1: done that. But to my knowledge, Hamas is still armed,
Speaker 1: So I ain't going to disarm Hamas well. Have somebody
Speaker 1: who is well noted, well spoken, and someone who has
Speaker 1: studied Middle East tensions and settlements for decades joined us.
Speaker 1: At one O six, two o six, Charlie Kirk's widow
Speaker 1: got the Medal of Freedom that President Trump handed out
Speaker 1: yesterday or it was yester two days for her husband,
Speaker 1: the late Charlie Kirk. And there is someone who believes
Speaker 1: that there are parallels between the assassination of Charlie Kirk
Speaker 1: and the assassination of former President John Fitzgerald Kennedy. And
Speaker 1: he has a theory as to why each one of
Speaker 1: those happened and how they're intertwined. We'll get to that
Speaker 1: at two of six. All kinds of stuff on the
Speaker 1: show today, and yes there is Monday Night football tonight.
Speaker 1: This is a battle of old guys. I love old
Speaker 1: guys when they engage in battle gladiators. I think the
Speaker 1: combined age of Joe Flacco and Aaron Rodgers or something
Speaker 1: like eighty one eighty two years old. Flacco was talking
Speaker 1: about that this week with the media about just how
Speaker 1: this is one for the aged.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's one thing you guys can't talk about this
Speaker 7: week in terms of me being older at least, but
Speaker 7: it's pretty neat. I mean, Aaron's been in the league
Speaker 7: a few years longer than me. But we started playing
Speaker 7: in two thousand and eight, so been some been doing
Speaker 7: it for a long time. It's pretty cool now.
Speaker 1: Me Meanwhile, you got Rogers who is with Pittsburgh. They're
Speaker 1: doing pretty well. God admit, they're doing pretty well. And
Speaker 1: the old guy thing, you know, the icy hot Bowl thing,
Speaker 1: it's not lost on him. He was in Pittsburgh crowing
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's great, great for all the old guys.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 8: I know that when I watch other sports. Maybe it's
Speaker 8: because I'm the older guy, but I tend.
Speaker 5: To to pull.
Speaker 8: For the older guys too to win, to win championships.
Speaker 8: I'm I'm I've been friends with Steph for a long time.
Speaker 8: Steph is one of the older guys in the NBA.
Speaker 8: Now there's any time to Warriors to play. I'm always
Speaker 8: pulling for for Steph to ball out for them, for
Speaker 8: them to win. But, uh, it's great. I mean, I've
Speaker 8: known Jill for a long time. Uh, he's been great
Speaker 8: coming to my charity event. Uh, he's been a great
Speaker 8: ambassador for the league. He's had a great career, and
Speaker 8: it's fun that we're both still playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he pulls for the old I pull for the
Speaker 1: old guys. I root for Cunningham. Somebody that is not
Speaker 1: excited about any of this is Mike Tomlin. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you heard his comments about the Browns trading
Speaker 1: Flacco here to the Bengals. He made this statement earlier
Speaker 1: this week.
Speaker 6: You know. To be honest, it was shocking to me.
Speaker 9: Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me or
Speaker 9: us Browns GM, because it doesn't make sense to me
Speaker 9: to trade a quarterback that you think enough of to
Speaker 9: make your opening day starter to a division opponent that's
Speaker 9: hurting in that area.
Speaker 6: But that's just my personal feeling.
Speaker 1: He was salivating over the opportunity to defend against Jake Browning.
Speaker 1: Now he's got to deal with Flacco, who may or
Speaker 1: may not have hit his stride in the second half
Speaker 1: of that game on Sunday. We'll see better evidence coming tonight.
Speaker 1: Standing by to join us right now is somebody that
Speaker 1: knows all of this stuff inside out. He is the
Speaker 1: president and CEO of Resilience Media. What is that, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think he's kind of like a facilitator.
Speaker 1: But anyway, primary coverage and primary facilitation efforts are in
Speaker 1: the world of sports, We've had Neil Coolong on before
Speaker 1: when he was with USA Today and then with SI
Speaker 1: dot Com and now here he is president and CEO
Speaker 1: of his own company. Who would want that? Neil Coolong,
Speaker 1: how are you on this glorious day.
Speaker 10: I'm doing very well, still in my keyjote like approach
Speaker 10: to finding whatever else is out there. But it's it's
Speaker 10: a it's a crazy new world, but it's exciting and
Speaker 10: there's always NFL to discuss and go over.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, okay, So we have. As we were joking
Speaker 1: back and forth on Twitter the other day, it's this
Speaker 1: is not a game for the ages. This is a
Speaker 1: game for the aged. This is the This is the
Speaker 1: Icy Hot Bowl. According to Aaron Rodgers and to Joe Flacco,
Speaker 1: who would have thought at the end of last season
Speaker 1: it would be Rogers against Flaco's Steelers against Bengals, But
Speaker 1: that's why they played the games. Neil, who is the
Speaker 1: more successful aging veteran at this point? In your opinion?
Speaker 10: I think if we were to break it down like that,
Speaker 10: Rogers probably has a step on Flacco.
Speaker 3: But the reason the Bengals.
Speaker 10: Brought Flacco in is because the more able, bodied, somewhat
Speaker 10: experienced quarterback that they had wasn't working out. And what
Speaker 10: they really want is to put it in this context,
Speaker 10: the studio musician. You know, Flacco is going to come in,
Speaker 10: he's going to play the music, and he's going to leave.
Speaker 6: They have.
Speaker 10: Abnormally powerful weapons within that offense that Jake Browning was
Speaker 10: not utilizing fully and they needed somebody that could just
Speaker 10: would simply be able to diagnose what a defense is
Speaker 10: doing and get the playmakers the ball in an effort
Speaker 10: to salvage whatever they can in an adverse situation. And
Speaker 10: I think Flacco is a reasonable option for that, and
Speaker 10: he was probably the most affordable option all things considered.
Speaker 10: You know that there are others out there that probably
Speaker 10: have more physical skill, but experience in that kind of
Speaker 10: situation counts a ton. And this is one why a
Speaker 10: guy like Joe Flacco and even Aaron Rodgers are still
Speaker 10: in the NFL. In two why teams largely consider their
Speaker 10: backup quarterback to be a top twenty roster spot. When
Speaker 10: that starter goes down, there's a lot you can't replace,
Speaker 10: and because of that, you're going to have to You know,
Speaker 10: the coaches will never say that you're going to have
Speaker 10: to compensate in other ways. The one thing you absolutely
Speaker 10: cannot have is a guy that's afraid or inexperience in
Speaker 10: performing under the lights. And I think that's the situation
Speaker 10: that we have tonight. You've got two veteran quarterbacks that
Speaker 10: are not the physical specimen they used to be. They're
Speaker 10: both Super Bowl champion quarterbacks, they both have two of
Speaker 10: the best postseason performances in NFL history.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, they're a long way from that.
Speaker 10: What they can do is identify a defense and conduct
Speaker 10: an offense within a structure that will utilize the weapons
Speaker 10: they have available.
Speaker 1: Why is Mike Tomlin so bent out of shape that
Speaker 1: the Browns made this trade with the Bengals to get Flaco?
Speaker 1: Why does he care? I mean, I know we'd rather
Speaker 1: face Browning than Flaco, But over and above that, why
Speaker 1: would Mike Tomlin care?
Speaker 10: I you know, it's it's funny, that's really kind of
Speaker 10: the question of the week on the inside, because go
Speaker 10: back seventeen years, very rarely do you see Tomlin kind of,
Speaker 10: you know, get bristled up a little bit over something.
Speaker 10: He does not comment negatively on opponents. Ever, there was
Speaker 10: a joke we used to have in the room, you
Speaker 10: can play Bengo based on the opponent, and we tried
Speaker 10: to assign who the cliche was going to be about,
Speaker 10: like combat catch guy was this guy, or you know
Speaker 10: he covers every blade of grass will be this guy.
Speaker 10: For him to say what he did, it was awfully pointed,
Speaker 10: and I don't think it's so much pointed at the Bengals.
Speaker 10: I think what if I were to guess, and this
Speaker 10: is pure speculation on my part, I don't know anything
Speaker 10: about it. I think what he's saying is the Bengals
Speaker 10: are a dangerous team even if Joe Burrow is not playing.
Speaker 10: Obviously they're going to take a step back, but you
Speaker 10: can find ways to beat teams with the weapons that
Speaker 10: they have on offense if you get a quarterback that
Speaker 10: can be averaged.
Speaker 3: Browning was not average in that sense.
Speaker 10: The Browns deciding to send a veteran quarterback inside the
Speaker 10: division who's a noticeable step up based on the two
Speaker 10: games that we saw.
Speaker 3: Poor Jake Browning. I don't know what happened to.
Speaker 10: Him to help them improve that keeps them alive within
Speaker 10: the division, and I think that's kind of what he
Speaker 10: is saying like, why would you do that? If you're
Speaker 10: Andrew Berry. You're not getting anything out of that. You're
Speaker 10: still paying most of Flacco's salary, which isn't all that
Speaker 10: much anyway. You swapped picks, so it's the difference of
Speaker 10: like seventeen picks unless you had an extreme problem.
Speaker 3: With Joe Flacco. How are you benefiting from this deal
Speaker 3: at all? And conversely, the Bengals made the deal of
Speaker 3: the year.
Speaker 10: I know we're not going to look at it that
Speaker 10: way as it being that intense of a transaction that
Speaker 10: could save their season.
Speaker 1: How is this playing out tonight? Because I looked at
Speaker 1: the Steelers, nothing really jumps out at me. Statistically for them,
Speaker 1: they don't run the ball particularly well on average. Although
Speaker 1: Warren has had his moments, Rogers his days of throwing
Speaker 1: close to four hundred and three touchdown passes pretty much
Speaker 1: gone by. The offensive line seems to have done okay.
Speaker 1: He's not getting sacked a lot. Defensively, they look like
Speaker 1: they're healthy and they're pretty darn good. But I'm just wondering,
Speaker 1: if you look at this game tonight, I'm wondering if
Speaker 1: we're going to eclipse thirty points in this game? And
Speaker 1: that's combined. How do you see this thing playing out?
Speaker 10: We've said that a lot about these games. You never
Speaker 10: know when it comes to Thursday night games within the division.
Speaker 10: You know, we spent the last week talking about Jackson
Speaker 10: Dart basically being the reincarnation of Joe Montana. When you're
Speaker 10: familiar with your opponent and you have the opportunity on
Speaker 10: a short week to kind of seize momentum in a
Speaker 10: game and really, you know, throw a knockout blow at
Speaker 10: somebody that can go either way. I don't think Cincinnati
Speaker 10: had a fairly significant hurdle to overcome, but they're professionals.
Speaker 10: When jobs get you know, challenged, I'm not saying threatened,
Speaker 10: but a bad season is not going to do well
Speaker 10: for your coaching staff.
Speaker 3: And I think that's true of anybody.
Speaker 10: If if you're going to show that one player is
Speaker 10: the reason you're able to do absolutely anything, they're going
Speaker 10: to look for other coaches. They're going to improve everybody else.
Speaker 10: So they're they're they're going to be fully invested in that.
Speaker 10: And on top of that, it's not like they need
Speaker 10: to sit down and categorically break down everything Pittsburgh does.
Speaker 10: They know Pittsburgh well, they know the tendencies, they have
Speaker 10: veteran players, they're going to have a good sense of
Speaker 10: who they are in that I would agree. I would
Speaker 10: probably feel this would be lower scoring just because it
Speaker 10: seems like these games, especially in the AFC North, they're
Speaker 10: they're for jabbers more than haymakers. They're not going to,
Speaker 10: you know, really kind of push the knockout blow. But
Speaker 10: at the same time, if I'm Cincinnati, look I've got
Speaker 10: I've got t Higgins, I've got Jamar Chase. I'm going
Speaker 10: to put them to work. Let's let's get them down
Speaker 10: the field. I'm however many points it is underdog tonight,
Speaker 10: I'm going to try to make big plays because, to
Speaker 10: be honest with you, looking at the Steelers film, I
Speaker 10: don't see a team that one really wants to try
Speaker 10: for those big plays. And two probably because we're not
Speaker 10: going to be all that successful of them play a play.
Speaker 10: I like what DK Metcalf did last week. I don't
Speaker 10: know if his body of work to this point is
Speaker 10: representative of a player that is going to make big plays,
Speaker 10: all things being equal, I think a lot of the
Speaker 10: place he's made to this point is defenders slipping on
Speaker 10: turf miscommunications and coverage.
Speaker 3: We've seen that to this point.
Speaker 10: Either way, there are two players who, in my opinion,
Speaker 10: are noticeably better than DK Metcalf on the other side
Speaker 10: of the ball. I think Cincinnati can get away with that.
Speaker 10: Are they going to risk the takeaways? Are they going
Speaker 10: to risk deep drops with an old and immobile quarterback
Speaker 10: against a pretty aggressive pass rush. That's where I think
Speaker 10: this probably goes more into a lower scoring tilt. But
Speaker 10: you never know on Thursday night.
Speaker 1: No, you know, you really never do. But there are
Speaker 1: storylines all over this game I think make it kind
Speaker 1: of kind of intriguing. Neil Coolong he is, as I say,
Speaker 1: the king looking for a kingdom, but he's with Resilience Media.
Speaker 1: And this is a guy that has worked in a
Speaker 1: number of different places, including covering the Steelers as a
Speaker 1: beat writer working for USA Today, and I think all
Speaker 1: points in between and nose Pittsburgh inside out. Sorry, so
Speaker 1: I got thirty seconds, give me a final score.
Speaker 10: I'm going to say Pittsburgh twenty six Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Twenty. I think it'll be competitive.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it gets over thirty, it gets over thirty.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I just I'm leaning into that because I feel
Speaker 10: like there's going to be the last drive. They could
Speaker 10: result in a touchdown to kind of break open a
Speaker 10: nineteen sixteen nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 3: Type of game. They're going to play close for most
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 10: I think the game is going to swing in one
Speaker 10: way or another in the second half.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you see you like forty six in this game.
Speaker 1: I think the number in this game the last time
Speaker 1: I looked was somewhere around forty four. I think it's
Speaker 1: a forty three and a half right now. So you're
Speaker 1: saying it dances with the number, and it's Pittsburgh minus
Speaker 1: five and a half. So it's what you take is
Speaker 1: the over. If you're Neil Koolong and you take the
Speaker 1: Steelers and give the points, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 3: You say it like that, You make me want to
Speaker 3: change my mind.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna got the Steelers the historic They are so
Speaker 10: bad on the road on Thursday nights.
Speaker 3: Gosh, that's tough.
Speaker 1: Are you that week that I changed your mind in
Speaker 1: thirty seconds on this thing? Are you that week?
Speaker 10: It's I don't trust the Steelers on Thursday night. You
Speaker 10: know I talked to Cleveland radio stations. How many times
Speaker 10: I picked Cleveland to win, and they laughed at me
Speaker 10: in these games. Yeah, Steelers don't play well on Thursday night. Now,
Speaker 10: this is earlier in the year when you get you know,
Speaker 10: the past couple of seasons, they have older teams playing
Speaker 10: late in the year on Thursday night. And if they're
Speaker 10: they're dead. They've got nothing in those games. But they
Speaker 10: get killed. And it wouldn't surprise me if if this
Speaker 10: is a lot more competitive than people think that it will.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna stick with the over. I just think
Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a late touchdown in there.
Speaker 1: Well, it's all right, I mean it's it's it's radio.
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna come looking for you if you're if you're wrong,
Speaker 1: But that's okay. That's why we like having you on.
Speaker 1: Neil Coolong. You can follow them on Twitter. It's the
Speaker 1: at sign in his name Neil with an A N
Speaker 1: E A L coulong c l o ng. All right,
Speaker 1: my friends, stay well, you and I will visit probably
Speaker 1: close to that next game here in about a month.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm already looking forward.
Speaker 1: To listen to you. I'm toying with the under in
Speaker 1: this game. I just am. I just can't. I can't
Speaker 1: bring myself to take the over. Now watch it be
Speaker 1: like thirty eight thirty four or something like that. But
Speaker 1: I just I just got I have a feeling about
Speaker 1: the under in this one. We'll see twelve fifty three already,
Speaker 1: My goodness, we are plowing forward very close to the
Speaker 1: Bengals pregame show at three o'clock on news Radio seven
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Speaker 1: the great American on this Thursday. Wherever you are, however
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Speaker 1: And you know, there are a lot of things buzzing around,
Speaker 1: certainly here in the city of Cincinnati. Monday night football, well,
Speaker 1: I guess it's Thursday night. Put Thursday night football is
Speaker 1: in town. That's going to be a big event. The
Speaker 1: safety of the city and your ability to go down
Speaker 1: there and see that game and do other things in
Speaker 1: around the greater Cincinnati area Hamblin County, but in particularly
Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati, that's of great concern. I know,
Speaker 1: to a lot of people, A lot of people are suburbians.
Speaker 1: They don't go to Hamilton County into the city of
Speaker 1: Cincinnati every single day, and so they don't know what
Speaker 1: to expect. We've seen the news reports, We've heard the verbiage.
Speaker 1: We know the police chief is about to be fired
Speaker 1: or will work out some resignation, and people are wondering,
Speaker 1: you know, what do I really want to you know,
Speaker 1: what can I find around my town? What can't I
Speaker 1: find that I have to find in the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: And the answer is pretty much nothing. The Reds, of
Speaker 1: course play downtown, the Bengals play downtown, and of course
Speaker 1: there might be one or two other things that might
Speaker 1: draw you to downtown Cincinnati. But by and large, anything
Speaker 1: that's in downtown Cincinnati that you think is great, restaurant, shopping,
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, is available where you live, or
Speaker 1: at least very close to where you live. And it's
Speaker 1: an image problem that the city of Cincinnati has. It
Speaker 1: is a growing image problem. And as I I said,
Speaker 1: and what I had Ken Kobleer on here about an
Speaker 1: hour ago, all it's going to take is one or
Speaker 1: two high profile businesses to pull out and say, you
Speaker 1: know what, we're done, we're moving. We're moving to Westchester,
Speaker 1: or we're moving to Erlanger, or we're moving someplace other
Speaker 1: than downtown Cincinnati. And all of a sudden, you've got
Speaker 1: major problems financial and otherwise in downtown Cincinnati. So politics aside,
Speaker 1: and I know you can't do that with this particular situation.
Speaker 1: Unless they can get a handle on this thing, it
Speaker 1: will affect this city financially. And so they've I seek,
Speaker 1: I think reluctantly embraced the state help that the governor
Speaker 1: has offered. And so you'll probably see some more state
Speaker 1: police in and around downtown Cincinnati. But it's an indictment
Speaker 1: really of the ability to recruit new officers and of
Speaker 1: a message that is emanating from city Hall that cascades
Speaker 1: into the courtroom. Were these judges, these relatively new judges
Speaker 1: sit that think it's okay, you know, term loose, no
Speaker 1: matter what they did, term loose, rehabilitate them. There things
Speaker 1: buzzing around the world too, and not the least of
Speaker 1: which is an uneasy piece in the Middle East. We
Speaker 1: saw what the President did earlier this week. We know
Speaker 1: that the last of the twenty living hostages held by
Speaker 1: Hamas in Gaza are now back in Israel. The hostages
Speaker 1: were kidnapped, as we know on October seventh, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: We also know that there were many of those hostages
Speaker 1: that simply did not survive. Where are the bodies? Hamas
Speaker 1: brought another body back to Israel, at least through the
Speaker 1: Red Cross back to Israel, but they've been playing games
Speaker 1: with some of the remains standing by the way. In
Speaker 1: as somebody who knows Middle East politics and the way
Speaker 1: things are in that area of the world. He is
Speaker 1: a trained Middle East historian PhD from King's College in London,
Speaker 1: and he's written a lot of books about Arab Israeli
Speaker 1: conflicts and American forum policy as such. And it's great
Speaker 1: to have doctor ASoP Romerowski join us once again here
Speaker 1: on seven hundred w welw and doctor, how are you
Speaker 1: on this glorious Thursday?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 11: How are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm well, okay, give me some odds. How do you think?
Speaker 1: What do you think the odds are of this piece
Speaker 1: holding for let's say thirty days.
Speaker 11: Well, it's already hasn't really fulfilled itself. I mean, I
Speaker 11: think we need to contextualize what we're seeing here, you know,
Speaker 11: there's no doubt that this was an historic event. In
Speaker 11: the moment that you to see the reunification of the
Speaker 11: families of the hostages who've been in captivity in the
Speaker 11: really in the dungeon hollows of Gaza, in these terror tunnels.
Speaker 11: That being said, you're already seeing that the second part
Speaker 11: of the deal, which was supposed to be the those
Speaker 11: who uh, those who have perished, the dead hostages are
Speaker 11: only coming out in drips and drabs uh. And to
Speaker 11: even give your listeners a context of some of this,
Speaker 11: four of the bodies that were returned yesterday, one of
Speaker 11: them was not even a hostage, was not even a
Speaker 11: body of a hostage. And that was something these kind
Speaker 11: of psychological games we saw early on in the war,
Speaker 11: for example with the Bevas family, which again they when
Speaker 11: they got to the forensic institute in Tel Aviv, they
Speaker 11: realized that they put in other body parts. So this
Speaker 11: is the unfortunate psychological game that Hamas is putting on.
Speaker 11: And let's not forget the fact that at the moment
Speaker 11: that Israel moved out of the area that they were in,
Speaker 11: Hamas is already executing people in the streets, and nobody's
Speaker 11: reporting about it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, very few I've seen. I've seen a couple, but
Speaker 1: I haven't seen certainly not the mainstream media. They're they're
Speaker 1: not going to reap or anything like that. But all right,
Speaker 1: who didn't think Hamas was going to do this? I
Speaker 1: mean they had to. I mean even the people that
Speaker 1: were instrumental in putting this deal together, and that would
Speaker 1: start with President Trump, and I think you would have
Speaker 1: to look at the leaders of Turkey and Qatar and
Speaker 1: other places like that. They would have had to have
Speaker 1: known that Hamas is. They're just they're just untrustworthy people.
Speaker 1: So they they had to know something like this was
Speaker 1: going to happen, didn't they.
Speaker 11: Yes. I mean, look, let's not forget the fact that
Speaker 11: Turkey and Cutter were also patrons of Hanas. They're the
Speaker 11: ones who also funded UH ten to seven. And of
Speaker 11: course let's not we cannot forget. And when we were
Speaker 11: missed the mission to miss the Islamic Republic of Iran,
Speaker 11: it's in their DNA. I think that there was larger interest,
Speaker 11: that is to say, what Cutter and what Turkey went
Speaker 11: out of the United States, you know, as far as
Speaker 11: Turkey one, uh, you know, a playing deal when it
Speaker 11: comes to the f thirty five UH and the discussion
Speaker 11: going on there cut our once a new airbase. You know,
Speaker 11: there's a lot of things as far as their own
Speaker 11: national interests that supersede what they're deal with Hamas.
Speaker 3: Is.
Speaker 11: Their message to Hamas was that basically, this is the
Speaker 11: best deal you're going to get after two years, you
Speaker 11: might as well take it. And in return, Hamas is
Speaker 11: receiving close to two thousand active terrorists from Israeli prisons
Speaker 11: who are going to be fortifying the bench. The larger issue,
Speaker 11: I think for the Trump administration is more about the
Speaker 11: regional objectives, and that is to say, if Indonesia, who's
Speaker 11: been making comments already about joining the Abram records, and
Speaker 11: more importantly the Saudis who creditated their involvement on the
Speaker 11: ending of the war, which is a big deal for
Speaker 11: the US and for Israel that would be a big
Speaker 11: win the war with Hamas itself. Again, you're not going
Speaker 11: to change their ideology. You're not going to change their DNA.
Speaker 11: You're talking about a Jihati barbarics, a elimination of ideology.
Speaker 11: That is that they believe in hook, line and sinker,
Speaker 11: and that's they're committed to that.
Speaker 1: So back in the summer, Trump sends a bunch of
Speaker 1: B two bombers over to Iran and blows up some
Speaker 1: of their nuclear sites, the damage of which you know
Speaker 1: might have been in contention. The administration said, look, we
Speaker 1: basically neutralize this group, and that was the chief funder
Speaker 1: for Hamas. You do economic deals with Turkey and Qatar,
Speaker 1: and that's how you attack that particular problem with regards
Speaker 1: to Hamas and how it's being fostered and funded. That
Speaker 1: seems to be the art of the deal. No pun
Speaker 1: intended here for the president. That's how we attack this thing.
Speaker 1: But everybody now has a little bit of stake in
Speaker 1: this game, don't they. I mean, if Aron starts wearing
Speaker 1: its ugly head again, here come the B two s,
Speaker 1: and Turkey and Katar don't get what they want economically
Speaker 1: for certain if they start fooling around with Hamas again.
Speaker 1: So he's trying to cut all of this off at
Speaker 1: the head, is he not?
Speaker 11: Yes? And I think that to some extent he's been
Speaker 11: able to do that. Not to mention to your earlier point,
Speaker 11: suffocating from US financially, which is obviously critical, I think that,
Speaker 11: you know, creating a regional environment, and specifically as it
Speaker 11: relates to the understanding that Iran is the greatest destabilizing
Speaker 11: force in the region and creating a coalition of countries
Speaker 11: the Saudis, the Israeli, the Jordanians, the Egyptians who are
Speaker 11: willing to fight him back with the United States, that
Speaker 11: is a useful move. Not to mention, you know, one
Speaker 11: should not, you know, ignore the fact that, uh, what
Speaker 11: we saw and you're illustrated was a phenomenal illustration of
Speaker 11: the US Israel alliance when they are on the same page,
Speaker 11: you know, going back to Trump's speech at the Israeli
Speaker 11: parliament this week with Natanya together, and so the message
Speaker 11: to the our world as a hamas that there is
Speaker 11: no there is no wishy washing policies here. Israel and
Speaker 11: the US are on the same day, and the US
Speaker 11: will back Israel militarily if and when they need to
Speaker 11: continue this battle. And that's also been a message that
Speaker 11: has come out of the Frump administration, which again the
Speaker 11: previous administration was waf pulling on this matter. And I
Speaker 11: think that the fact that we are in the same
Speaker 11: page now, you know, does show the turns and does
Speaker 11: show that they are going to act when they need to.
Speaker 1: I saw former Harvard professor Alan Dershwitz on one of
Speaker 1: the programs in the last couple of days. He said,
Speaker 1: this deal would be unattainable for presidents Obama or Biden.
Speaker 1: Obama tried to buy some sort of deal with Iran
Speaker 1: and therefore it's it's subsidiaries like kamal Us with money.
Speaker 1: And Biden was just I mean, he was a complete
Speaker 1: neurological mess when he was in office and probably wasn't
Speaker 1: running the country, let alone foreign policy. But Trump got
Speaker 1: a deal that the other two guys before him could
Speaker 1: not get. It was Dershowitz, right.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't disagree with Dershowitz on that point. I mean,
Speaker 11: I think that we were engaged, and specifically under the
Speaker 11: Obama years in this policy of appeasements towards Dran which
Speaker 11: was followed through by the Biden administration. And you saw
Speaker 11: that the mixed messages that came out of the Biden administration,
Speaker 11: even in the first months and you know, I would
Speaker 11: say sixty days of the war, where they were already
Speaker 11: trying to appease come out and trying to make the Israelis,
Speaker 11: which eventually is what they did fight with one hand
Speaker 11: behind their backs. And that was that all around. It
Speaker 11: was only when the Israelis were able to turn the
Speaker 11: corner and make those significant successes that were aparently wise
Speaker 11: taking out Habalah, you know, you know, going after run,
Speaker 11: moving along when it came to Rau inside of Gazza
Speaker 11: that you did see these more military significant moves and
Speaker 11: that and that, and that worked well and was for
Speaker 11: fortified once Trump came into office in January.
Speaker 1: Okay, see you've got Hamas and one of the bodies
Speaker 1: that they sent back to Israel is not the body
Speaker 1: of a hostage. They must have spare bodies lying around
Speaker 1: Gaza all over the place. Uh so the body parts
Speaker 1: were not of one of the hostages.
Speaker 6: We know that.
Speaker 1: We also know that they have been executing people in
Speaker 1: Gaza city mentioned that before. You know, Trump wants this
Speaker 1: deal to work. This is a this is a crowning
Speaker 1: achievement for him. This is something that no other president,
Speaker 1: to my mind, has been able to pull off. This
Speaker 1: is a coalition of countries that have come together to
Speaker 1: say this is it, and this is the deal, and
Speaker 1: take it or leave it. At what point? At what
Speaker 1: point does patients run out? Because if it's not holding
Speaker 1: here inside of seventy two hours after that paper was signed.
Speaker 1: At what point does patients run out? What is the
Speaker 1: line in your opinion that Hamas must not cross, because
Speaker 1: if they do, then the deal blows up and then
Speaker 1: we're back to military action.
Speaker 11: If we start seeing more rockets flying in from Gazam
Speaker 11: back into Israel, and if we start seeing more military
Speaker 11: activity attacking israelis I mean, let's be clear here, Israel
Speaker 11: is still about fifty five fifty six percent and still
Speaker 11: controlling Gazo and so, and if they need to continue
Speaker 11: the battle and continue to actually go inward where they
Speaker 11: left on those lines, then that'll be a clear red line.
Speaker 1: Doctor, this is going to sound like a basic naive question,
Speaker 1: but I excel at these kinds of questions, so please
Speaker 1: bear with me. We're chatting with doctor s. F. Romerowski, PhD. Well,
Speaker 1: he's a doctor, that's why he's a PhD. King's College, London.
Speaker 1: Why can't everybody in that area of the country of
Speaker 1: the world get along? Is it all religious based? Is
Speaker 1: it all historical? Why can't people see that here now
Speaker 1: as opposed to what happened in the past and just say,
Speaker 1: you know what it's in everybody's best interest financially and
Speaker 1: certainly from a health standpoint, to just start getting along
Speaker 1: with each other. Why can't that happen?
Speaker 11: Well, I mean, and if we solve that problem might
Speaker 11: be out of business. But you know, there's the you know,
Speaker 11: these conflicts have been going on for decades and you
Speaker 11: know we're all junking aside. I mean, the fact of
Speaker 11: the matter is that the conflict is indeed entangled theologically, culturally, politically,
Speaker 11: But when it comes in particular to the Israeli Pabalistinian dynamic,
Speaker 11: the ultimate fact that rejectionism is always trump statehood, and
Speaker 11: the fact that at every point in time where the
Speaker 11: Arab Palestinians were offered a state a compromise, they've always
Speaker 11: renexed on their promises and they've never followed through. Its
Speaker 11: quite telling about their ideology. And Hamas again is not
Speaker 11: given up their objective as far as the destruction of
Speaker 11: the state of Israel. And so when you have this
Speaker 11: black and white binary understanding and the fact that Arab
Speaker 11: Palestinians refused to accept Israel's rights to exist, this is
Speaker 11: where it all goes on. And you know, this is
Speaker 11: a cycle that continues from generation to generation educationally wise,
Speaker 11: as an academic, I will tell you I mean the
Speaker 11: fact that there is no education towards accepting the other
Speaker 11: and accepting Israel's rights with this in peace, whereas Israeli
Speaker 11: textbooks indeed do talk about that. That is also part
Speaker 11: of the rejectionism that you know, is infusing this ideology
Speaker 11: from im a very young age.
Speaker 1: Doctor Hamas has to disarm. Who's going to make them
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 11: I think that we might we will see pressure coming
Speaker 11: from the Trump administration to try to get these patrons,
Speaker 11: you know, and kind of give carriage. If the Turk
Speaker 11: and if the Kataris try to push gazap to uh,
Speaker 11: you know, move move along, that could potentially help a deal.
Speaker 11: And of course let's not forget the gos in our
Speaker 11: Egyptian and so if Egypt gets involved here, that will
Speaker 11: be another pressure point to move this along. The more
Speaker 11: pressure is coming from the Arab brethren, there is more
Speaker 11: of a shot than you could push Kamas. But but
Speaker 11: ultimately the ultimate goal is to disentangle Kmas from Palestinian
Speaker 11: society such as it is. If you're able to kind
Speaker 11: of clean out whatever you can salvage, that's a better
Speaker 11: way to go. About this. Kamas is now trying to
Speaker 11: reinvent itself as a law and order force, internal security force.
Speaker 11: If these are all the trigger and code name that
Speaker 11: they're giving themselves as they're going around the streets of
Speaker 11: Gaza City and killing their own you know, you know,
Speaker 11: you know, executing people left and right. But that needs
Speaker 11: to change. The other part of the deal, which was
Speaker 11: again another parrot that Wick coffin Trump gave Comas, was amnesty.
Speaker 11: That is to say that Hamas leadership could leave Gaza
Speaker 11: and go to cut her in Turkey again. Are you
Speaker 11: just prolonging and putting a bandit on the problem. That's
Speaker 11: my read on the issue. Uh, I mean, we're going
Speaker 11: to be in this for a while. Not to mention
Speaker 11: the fact that it took Comas twenty years to build
Speaker 11: a maye a tunnel, a tunnel maze of Gaza, It'll
Speaker 11: take that long to rebuild it. And not to mention
Speaker 11: I think last estimates that I saw were like in
Speaker 11: the amounts of a circular, you know, circling around one
Speaker 11: hundred and twenty one hundred and twenty five billion dollars
Speaker 11: that requires to rebuild, rehabilitate and start, you know, and
Speaker 11: build something new.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you're right, you're not going to be out
Speaker 1: of business anytime soon. And I know doctor that you're
Speaker 1: a very busy guy this day and age, and we
Speaker 1: appreciate your time here on seven hundred at WYLW. You
Speaker 1: take care, Okay, thank you so much, Thank for having me. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: without a question, Yes, sir, I give it a It's
Speaker 1: not going to last. There's something. It's just you. You're
Speaker 1: talking about centuries of hostilities, and I think it's tenuous
Speaker 1: at best, but at least it's a start. And we'll
Speaker 1: see how good some of these other countries are with
Speaker 1: regards to this, because there are a lot of countries
Speaker 1: that he made deals with that I don't trust either.
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Speaker 2: I see you, you see me, I see you. I'm
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Speaker 5: Hell hello, quiet, and I'm spoke.
Speaker 12: I'm broadcasting. She's watching you, I know, ken Brew, I'm watching.
Speaker 12: I'm just kind of sitting here, not looking at anybody.
Speaker 12: I know she's watching us. I know she's watching you
Speaker 12: because she ain't looking at me. By the way, who
Speaker 12: the hell is she? That's the police chief. She was
Speaker 12: called back from Denver last night at a police conference.
Speaker 12: I wonder who did you think she had a foot
Speaker 12: the bill for that plane? Or do you think the
Speaker 12: city of Cincinnati sent AFT tab one out there? She
Speaker 12: flew coach Yeah, probably so middle c or probably probably
Speaker 12: grey on.
Speaker 1: Middle seat coach on the Red Eye.
Speaker 12: Yeah, she's probably in Wichita, Kansas right now.
Speaker 1: TG the TG.
Speaker 12: Well, you know, I don't know what, who knows what?
Speaker 12: You know, what's gonna happen in Downtown's like, you know,
Speaker 12: they're it's unbelievable. They got a football game down there
Speaker 12: tonight and hopefully everything good the football game in town. Yeah,
Speaker 12: well you heard Ken Kober. He says, get the hell
Speaker 12: out of there immediately after the game end. Hey, if
Speaker 12: they beaped up security on Fountain Square from two o'clock
Speaker 12: in the afternoon at ten o'clock at night, So if
Speaker 12: you park up there, you're good till halftime, but get
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Speaker 1: You know they're known for chicken if you know that,
Speaker 1: seg you know, but they're the hamburgers that they send
Speaker 1: up is what I eat. I only eat red meat
Speaker 1: once a week, and it's when Ron Russe shows up here.
Speaker 12: Pam brought up second. And you know what the special
Speaker 12: guest today was Oga herself. Oga brought it up correct
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Speaker 1: Well, I would be a poor substitute for will.
Speaker 2: He see you tube?
Speaker 3: Ken Brew.
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Speaker 1: Say let me ask you this, yes, sir, how many
Speaker 1: Steeler fans you think will be there tonight? And will
Speaker 1: they outnumber Bengals fans. I think they'll be.
Speaker 12: There's usually like a fair amount of past Steeler fans
Speaker 12: at any game.
Speaker 1: No, I got a book here. I won't give his
Speaker 1: real name. Okay, I'm not going to do that, but
Speaker 1: let's for for this sake, let's call him Ralph. Okay,
Speaker 1: Ralph gets season tickets to the Bengals games, and he
Speaker 1: goes to every game except the Steeler game because he
Speaker 1: then puts those tickets on stub Hubb or whatever the
Speaker 1: hell it is and make hays for his entire rest
Speaker 1: of his season tickets. That's what I looked at. I
Speaker 1: saw him two days as you go all the game,
Speaker 1: I said, what'd you get for those tickets? And let's
Speaker 1: just put it this way, he could have bought two
Speaker 1: more season tickets for what he got. Here's somebody, here's
Speaker 1: some some Stullar, some Stullar fan from that'll be here.
Speaker 1: So pa that's coming in and paid Ralph, They'll be here,
Speaker 1: ken Brew. You know that because like just like the well,
Speaker 1: maybe the Browns fans might not be anymore, but they're
Speaker 1: showing up like the Cubs.
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Speaker 12: ever said that Red's update. Let's see Red's third base
Speaker 12: coach Jr. House, Yes, has been hired by the Arizona
Speaker 12: Diamondbacks are the same position. He's an Arizona native, so
Speaker 12: he's probably home six. So he wants to go home
Speaker 12: spend twenty nineteen and to twenty twenty five of the Reds.
Speaker 12: He was the last of the coaching staff on this
Speaker 12: current Reds group under David Bell. So Jr. House just
Speaker 12: wants to go back home and he got hired by
Speaker 12: the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what I mean that that happens. You
Speaker 1: know if somebody said said, list think if you were
Speaker 1: hired by a station in like Colorado and you were
Speaker 1: very successful there. Yeah, but then the phone call came
Speaker 1: from WLW and you said, I got to go home.
Speaker 1: I don't care how successful I am here. I got
Speaker 1: to go home. True, you would do it right. We
Speaker 1: don't begrudge people for doing that.
Speaker 12: Spencer Steer and Key Brian Hayes our finalist for the
Speaker 12: Baseball Gold Glove Awards. It's going to be announced November two.
Speaker 1: We don't keep up. Key Brian's not up for any
Speaker 1: offensive awards like the Silk Slugger.
Speaker 2: We know that's for sure.
Speaker 12: American League Championship Series Game three last night, Toronto belts
Speaker 12: out five homes, thirteen to four, round of the Mariners. Yeah,
Speaker 12: Seattle is still up to to one tonight at eight thirty.
Speaker 12: Game four. The NLCS resumes tonight in Los Angeles. Dodgers
Speaker 12: own a two zero lead against the Brew crew crew
Speaker 12: to to night six o'clock.
Speaker 1: They have not named a starting pitcher yet for tonight's games.
Speaker 1: Have not You're not going to say so. And Tyler
Speaker 1: Glasnell is on the mound for the Dodgers. Another tough one. Now,
Speaker 1: let's see college basketball, Ken Brew. Those Cincinnati Bearcats are
Speaker 1: going north.
Speaker 12: The exhibition play tomorrow right against the team up north
Speaker 12: in Michigan, Xavier and Murray State at the centas Center
Speaker 12: Saturday afternoon in exhibition play.
Speaker 1: For some reason, we're broadcasting that game at two o'clock.
Speaker 1: Do you do all that if that game is being
Speaker 1: being carried live here on WYLW.
Speaker 2: I did not know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, most of these scrimmages are these exhibition games. They
Speaker 1: play for like a half, then they turn the clock off,
Speaker 1: then they work on individual drills. I think, I think Joe,
Speaker 1: I think the Show and Byron are going to have
Speaker 1: a lot of work to do on Saturday. It's not
Speaker 1: a typical back and forth game.
Speaker 12: Also, ken Brew, we want to say congratulations that you
Speaker 12: see Claremont. Their girls volleyball team is number one in
Speaker 12: the nation in the USCAA Division two volleyball pole. There
Speaker 12: you go, gratulations absolutely. Hockey tonight Columbus hosting Coloradombs Cyclones.
Speaker 1: They're not very good, are they?
Speaker 2: Either?
Speaker 1: One and two?
Speaker 12: Well it's Cyclones open their season Saturday night against Wheeling.
Speaker 1: Namely three guys on the Cyclones Justin Vive, Paul Lawless, no,
Speaker 1: he's retired, and Don Biggs.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I think Justin Vive is the only one I can remember.
Speaker 1: They turn the roster turns over a lot year to.
Speaker 12: Years, exactly new coach and everything fer Cyclones a new coach,
Speaker 12: and the Miami RedHawks ken Brew four and o in
Speaker 12: hockey four and oh look out they're gonna do. They're
Speaker 12: gonna be the Miami Dolphins of college hockey. Miami's gonna
Speaker 12: go fifty and oh in hote.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's great, Seg. That's good for them. What's
Speaker 1: the Ohio University hockey team doing? Can we get some
Speaker 1: coverage for them? Why not?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Right, I think they're on I think they're on the
Speaker 12: Project tonight, Seg. Let me just ask you a question, yes, sir, yeah,
Speaker 12: you're not. You don't live in Cincinnati. Do you know
Speaker 12: you live in a suburb. We're not going to give
Speaker 12: with a suburb, right, but you was if you had
Speaker 12: a choice, would you go to that game tonight? Would
Speaker 12: you venture into downtown Cincinnati and go to and where
Speaker 12: would you park?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 12: I don't know that that football. I don't know I
Speaker 12: would probably you.
Speaker 1: Know who's loving all this? Not loving it? But you
Speaker 1: know we're gonna make out from all this. Those guys
Speaker 1: down by pay Corse Stadium that charged like ninety dollars
Speaker 1: to park your car?
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, well, I mean when we were at when
Speaker 12: we had the tailgate last year at Longworth, they were
Speaker 12: at charge on sixty. Yeah, and I'm sure it's probably
Speaker 12: seven it's probably I don't it's probably not the same
Speaker 12: this year. It's probably seventy dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, you could sit in the stands and just you
Speaker 1: could see your car. You just you know, you watch
Speaker 1: the game, you keep your eye on your car. Those
Speaker 1: guys are going to make out like bandits now a
Speaker 1: question for you, Ken Brew.
Speaker 12: Yes, the other night I'm watching w c E T
Speaker 12: forty eight and that show about King's King Records. Yes, excellent.
Speaker 12: You seen that, Yes, I have. It's excellent, unbelievable. I
Speaker 12: watched that. I learned stuff. Never even knew. I knew
Speaker 12: where it was in Cincinnati, but I had no idea
Speaker 12: about what all the stories behind it.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, missed opportunity on the producers. They should
Speaker 1: have had more Bootsy Collins in there, you know what.
Speaker 1: I was waiting for that and it never came, you know.
Speaker 1: And then and they said that Cincinnati could have been
Speaker 1: as big as Sun Records in Memphis, absolutely and Motown
Speaker 1: in Detroit, and it would have worked out. You know
Speaker 1: that building that that place was in. It just deteriorated
Speaker 1: over time. I think they were udf ice cream truck.
Speaker 1: We're parking inside there at once. See there right right.
Speaker 1: You can see it as you're going north on. It's
Speaker 1: on your left hand side going north on seventy one.
Speaker 1: But it's sat there then, I don't know, maybe fifteen
Speaker 1: twenty years ago they put a plaque outside there. This
Speaker 1: was once King records, and that thing is rusting or whatever,
Speaker 1: so it I mean, it could have been. It could
Speaker 1: have been. It's like the airport could have been in Cincinnati. No,
Speaker 1: it's over in northern Kentucky. I mean all it could
Speaker 1: have been said. This could have been a major railway
Speaker 1: stop back in the day, but of course it isn't,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't.
Speaker 12: It could be, it could be.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why I say, we got to get our
Speaker 1: arms around our problems and celebrate our victories if we could,
Speaker 1: you know, I could use that if I ever ran
Speaker 1: for mayor get our arms around our problems and celebrate
Speaker 1: our victories. That's what we need to do.
Speaker 12: I'd be good on a T shirt. I'd get one.
Speaker 1: I'm a little late for the election cycle this year,
Speaker 1: but if it ever comes up again, I just might,
Speaker 1: I just might do I got a slogan already.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you got the looks. I mean you know, I
Speaker 12: mean you know you can be on TV and talk right.
Speaker 11: Now, I've had this feeling in my gud of like
Speaker 11: I'm holding Ohio in my arms and I'm like, single
Speaker 11: handedly like tak envirus.
Speaker 7: Stay out.
Speaker 1: Okay, that got as much chance as me, right, but
Speaker 1: I know, put you get our arms around our problems
Speaker 1: and celebrate our victories. It beats what the guy that
Speaker 1: runs this city has on his shirt, which is you
Speaker 1: can you can find me in Vancouver.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true.
Speaker 12: As this kid wanted to see the boats or something.
Speaker 1: So they get us out of the Steoge Report because
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things that are percolating. I'm
Speaker 1: going to talk about Charlie Kirk and the Kennedy assassination
Speaker 1: and how they're intertwined. What do you hear this one?
Speaker 12: Okay, ken brew in honor of a beautiful day here
Speaker 12: in the Tri State and go Bengals who day against
Speaker 12: those Steelers tonight.
Speaker 1: Absolutely we leave you.
Speaker 12: With the immortal words of the Stooge Report.
Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 13: Guys, I've checked the Nielsen rating, and it's about time
Speaker 13: you had me back instead of them fattle out mouths
Speaker 13: you've had on the past couple of weeks. So have
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Speaker 13: You know what I'm saying, Because I'll see you guys later.
Speaker 12: Wow, you know that wizard. That wizard guy could have
Speaker 12: been as big as uh as Podreeve can't skipper ryle
Speaker 12: uncle Al and the cool goal.
Speaker 1: And to think we did all of that when recreational
Speaker 1: marijuana was not legal.
Speaker 12: Great writing though, should have won an award for that.
Speaker 1: Should have absolutely well show cratered after I left, as
Speaker 1: do most of the relationships I'm involved in. I'll see
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Speaker 1: I am ken Brew. Great to have you with us.
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Speaker 11: So.
Speaker 1: A couple of days ago in the White House, there
Speaker 1: was a large gathering to watch the President of the
Speaker 1: United States, Donald Trump, had the Presidential Medal of Freedom
Speaker 1: award to the widow of Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk, of
Speaker 1: course gunned down in broad daylight about five weeks ago
Speaker 1: in Utah, and while the investigation continues into that case,
Speaker 1: they apprehended a suspect in the case about thirty five
Speaker 1: thirty six hours after the assassination. The actual process of
Speaker 1: gaining evidence and convicting the alleged suspect remains an ongoing process.
Speaker 1: There was also, in the course of history a lot
Speaker 1: of other times were people who have been taken out
Speaker 1: simply because their views don't align with the view of
Speaker 1: the guy with the gun, and invariably the guy with
Speaker 1: the gun always wins. There are parallels that can be
Speaker 1: drawn to other assassinations, not the least of which the
Speaker 1: assassination in nineteen hundred and sixty three of President John
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald Kennedy. And for decades my next guest has been
Speaker 1: doing research into the JFK assassination and also now here recently,
Speaker 1: Howard parallels in a lot of ways the assassination of
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. He is doctor David Mantik. He is a
Speaker 1: medical physicist and radiation oncologist, and has just released a book.
Speaker 1: JFKY was killed by consensus, Dealey Plaza was just the
Speaker 1: final stop. Doctor David Mantick joins us right here and
Speaker 1: right now in Doctor Mantick, how are you on this
Speaker 1: glorious Thursday.
Speaker 5: Well, we're enjoying the beach in Klestad, California under Cleibler Sky,
Speaker 5: so it's paradise.
Speaker 1: Well, we have clear blue skies here in Cincinnati and
Speaker 1: our beach is the Ohio River. So take that as
Speaker 1: it may be. But it's great to have you. Have
Speaker 1: you join us. Okay, let's just talk about what you
Speaker 1: have found as you have dug into the Kennedy assassination,
Speaker 1: and then maybe we can draw a parallel to what
Speaker 1: has happened with Charlie Kirk. I was old enough to
Speaker 1: remember the Kennedy assassination. I was about eleven years old
Speaker 1: when he was murdered in Dallas. Obviously the country was
Speaker 1: in great shock. It was not that long after another
Speaker 1: great president that was revered in this country, Franklin Delano Roosevelt,
Speaker 1: died by natural causes. But nevertheless there was a traumatic time.
Speaker 1: And I'm as you've delved into the research, and we
Speaker 1: know what the Warren Commission has said, and we know
Speaker 1: what the Church Commission said back in the seventies, and
Speaker 1: we know all of these new documents that have just
Speaker 1: been released on the order of President Trump.
Speaker 6: What have you.
Speaker 1: Found in your research that runs concurrent to what we
Speaker 1: know or we think we know about the JFK assassination.
Speaker 5: Well, the one word that stands out is transparency. We
Speaker 5: never really have a transparency in the assassination of JFK.
Speaker 5: And that's a clear problem here with Charlie Kirk too.
Speaker 5: There's no release of the Autosi report. For example, we're
Speaker 5: x rays taken. The x rays, of course, would be
Speaker 5: helpful to show exactly where the bullet was and what
Speaker 5: caliber it was. What about facial recognition of Tyler Robinson
Speaker 5: the suspect, and facial recognition actually identify him. And what
Speaker 5: about the ballistics that supposedly might connect the bullets found
Speaker 5: by the surgeon to the weapons found in the wooded area?
Speaker 5: Where's that report? Why can't we see that? Is it
Speaker 5: going to come out in the trial? Is the Putt
Speaker 5: trial going to be public? How much transparency will we see?
Speaker 1: Well, let me just put the pause button here. It's
Speaker 1: been five weeks. Should we or should they? The FBI
Speaker 1: should know if bullet match is gun. There's no question
Speaker 1: about that at this point. But why would we expect
Speaker 1: to hear that kind of information in a process that
Speaker 1: is still underway to from the government standpoint, get a
Speaker 1: conviction on this guy might be jumping the gun a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 5: Though I'm not blaming anyone for hiding anything at this point.
Speaker 5: I'm basically suggesting to the audience that keep these questions
Speaker 5: in mind as we follow this case. These facts should
Speaker 5: eventually emerge, and one would expect eventually that they would
Speaker 5: become public. Perhaps it is too early now, so I'm
Speaker 5: not complaining too much about this flight delay, But in
Speaker 5: the long run, those are the big questions to.
Speaker 1: The Kennedy assassination. We were told from Jump it was
Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald. There was a story that he was
Speaker 1: in Russia, came back from Russia, that there was Cuban involvement.
Speaker 1: New Orleans was a big player in the conspiracy. There
Speaker 1: was a mafia boss from Tampa that might have also
Speaker 1: come into play. Then we heard, well, the CIA may
Speaker 1: be involved. And there are a number of stories that
Speaker 1: were concocted in and around his assassination, some of which
Speaker 1: are still with what the government is running with. Even
Speaker 1: here now, sixty years after it happened. I'm I'm wondering
Speaker 1: what did you find in your research or what did
Speaker 1: you find that might be a red flag as to
Speaker 1: what we have been told all these many years.
Speaker 5: Well, if you go to week A TDA today and
Speaker 5: look at I suppose assassin them the JSK case Lee
Speaker 5: Harvey Oswald, you will see quite clearly that it says
Speaker 5: Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated to Okay playing and bimple dies.
Speaker 5: That surprise you?
Speaker 1: No, no, it's quite amazing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, get suck about sixty two years later.
Speaker 1: Why, I'm sorry, go ahead, I'm sorry to go ahead.
Speaker 5: Radiation oncologists. I knew that examination of the X rays
Speaker 5: at the archives might prove very useful. In particular, on
Speaker 5: the frontal X ray of JFK Skull, there is a
Speaker 5: six point five milimeter nearly round object that appears to
Speaker 5: be a cross section of a bullet. Unfortunately, the pathologists
Speaker 5: that the autopsy did not report this, and they claimed
Speaker 5: they did not see it. So I was curious about
Speaker 5: what this really was for. It turns out, after hundreds
Speaker 5: of measurements that I made directly on those existing X
Speaker 5: rays at the Archives, that it's a face. It was
Speaker 5: put on the X ray film within a week or
Speaker 5: sough of the exascinations, and it was not there. The
Speaker 5: pathologists were right. It was added later and I was
Speaker 5: able to show in the dark room exactly how to
Speaker 5: do that. That's a I'll discussed and illustrated in my books.
Speaker 5: So I knew that that was a smoking gun. That
Speaker 5: object kick Quest not never there in the metal that
Speaker 5: SUP partly represented, was never in the archives. It is
Speaker 5: not there today. It's never done there.
Speaker 1: The autopsy was done, if I'm not mistaken, and please
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, was done at the Bethesda
Speaker 1: Naval Hospital in Washington, d C. There was a great
Speaker 1: amount of consternation as to why, as to not just why,
Speaker 1: but whether his body should be moved out of Dallas.
Speaker 1: The Dallas authorities said, it was a murder, it happened
Speaker 1: to our town, in our town, We're not moving this body.
Speaker 1: The Secret Service had other ideas. They got the body
Speaker 1: on Air Force one. They brought it back to d C.
Speaker 1: It went to the Bethesda Naval Hospital for autopsy, and
Speaker 1: from what I have read, uh that was a crowded room.
Speaker 1: It was a doctor that was performing the autopsy. But
Speaker 1: there were many secret service and other government of some
Speaker 1: say CIA officials that were inside the actual autopsy room
Speaker 1: running roughshot over the guy that was doing the autopsy.
Speaker 1: The guy that did the autopsy looked like he was
Speaker 1: confident but was under tremendous stress by these other people
Speaker 1: who were in the room. Is that true, number one?
Speaker 1: And do you think that has anything to do with
Speaker 1: what you have discovered?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a fair summary of what happened. He was
Speaker 5: just at the twenty year March for being in the
Speaker 5: Navy until his whole feature was hanging in the balance
Speaker 5: on whether or not he followed military directions that night,
Speaker 5: so he really had no choice. He had to do
Speaker 5: exactly what they told him to do. For example, James Jenkins,
Speaker 5: who was there at the autopsy all night long, and
Speaker 5: his stud who still lives and who I have interacted
Speaker 5: with many times, reports that there was a bullet entry
Speaker 5: rooms in the right temple and when he and the
Speaker 5: assistant the pathologists were going to explore it, they were
Speaker 5: immediately told to stop by doctor he was the chief thethologist.
Speaker 5: After he was called over by one of the high
Speaker 5: ranking military people and he was told just to ignore
Speaker 5: that so they did not have any freedom to exercise
Speaker 5: their professional skill for that.
Speaker 1: This is sixty years. As I said, down the road
Speaker 1: there was there was, I think a philosophy that is true,
Speaker 1: bearing I don't have any information of this. I think
Speaker 1: the government was trying to keep the American public from
Speaker 1: turning into some sort of chaotic group that you know,
Speaker 1: if they had found out the quote unquote real story,
Speaker 1: we couldn't handle it as an American people. But here
Speaker 1: we are, sixty years down the road. We've had the
Speaker 1: Warrant Commission, which you know, truthfully just seemed like an
Speaker 1: endorsement of the lone gunman and basically a rubber stamp
Speaker 1: of what the government wanted to say. The man that
Speaker 1: shot Kennedy, the alleged loan assassin, he was murdered two
Speaker 1: days later. We had the Church Commission. As I recall,
Speaker 1: back in the seventies, Frank Church, a US congressman, headed
Speaker 1: a commission that said that there probably was another gunman.
Speaker 1: And yet that kind of got you buried in more
Speaker 1: government speak. And then these other documents that came out
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years seemed to have no
Speaker 1: real relevance to what the whole investigation was about. My
Speaker 1: point being is we've been running with the same story
Speaker 1: for sixty years. And if the government's intention was to
Speaker 1: keep this information from us because we would turn into
Speaker 1: a nation of complete chaos, well, most of us that
Speaker 1: were around in nineteen sixty three, unfortunately, are dead or
Speaker 1: are marching towards it. What are they protecting us from now? Why?
Speaker 1: You know, when Trump says I'm going to release the
Speaker 1: files and we're going to get all these out, well,
Speaker 1: if the files are the same basically as what we
Speaker 1: saw or were led to believe sixty years ago, why
Speaker 1: are they still Why are they still running the same game?
Speaker 5: Well, I think the intelligence community has a lot of
Speaker 5: good reasons to hide this stuff because they're so embarrassed
Speaker 5: by what it would show. And we've just not too
Speaker 5: long ago, had a wonderful relief that demonstrates this.
Speaker 14: When the House Select Committee in the seventies was reinvestigating
Speaker 14: this case, one of the liaisons between the CIA and
Speaker 14: the House was George Gianides. Well, the House committee did
Speaker 14: not know that Jianides was one of the prime conspirators
Speaker 14: working with the anti Castro Cubans in nineteen sixty three,
Speaker 14: and so that document has only recently been released and
Speaker 14: as a result of his he's so.
Speaker 5: Called excellent works Unity was awarded a medal by the
Speaker 5: CIA because he kept this information from the house.
Speaker 1: My gosh, JFK. JFK was killed by consensus. Deally pleasant
Speaker 1: was just the final stop. It's authored by our guests,
Speaker 1: doctor David Mantike. He has written other books on this
Speaker 1: as well. We talked about the Charlie Kirk assassination. How
Speaker 1: our antenna has to be up on exactly who this
Speaker 1: person was that killed him. Was he motivated or financed
Speaker 1: or in some way, shape or form co op by
Speaker 1: other people. You know, they're but the grace of God
Speaker 1: by about a quarter of an inch, Donald Trump would
Speaker 1: have been murdered in July of twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 1: yet we know nothing about the guy that shot him.
Speaker 1: They cleaned that place up like it was some maid
Speaker 1: service that was on deadline. The body gone, the blood gone,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't you know, it wasn't a cleaning crew
Speaker 1: that did it. It was the federal government that did it.
Speaker 1: So here we go. It could have been the same
Speaker 1: damn thing all over again.
Speaker 5: Right. Yes, a lot of secrets are still getting held there.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, doctor, what is the what is the what
Speaker 1: are the chances that will ever be told the real story?
Speaker 1: Because there have been books written about the conspiracy of JFK.
Speaker 1: And you know what the works are, and you know
Speaker 1: who the authors are. They started coming out within a
Speaker 1: year of his assassination. But what do you think the
Speaker 1: chances are of the government ever coming clean on this
Speaker 1: and it happening in your lifetime?
Speaker 5: No, they won't. But we can learn this without them.
Speaker 5: That's what my book is about. The now. How the
Speaker 5: list of real names, the real people of the public,
Speaker 5: names that a lot of people were recognized, what Melts
Speaker 5: and Rockefeller, people who knew what was going to happen.
Speaker 5: Twelve will be to serve under MacArthur in the Pacific.
Speaker 5: Hl Hunt, These are all prominent names that you know
Speaker 5: are on the list of people who sponsored the execution
Speaker 5: I call it. And hl Hunt had sixty times as
Speaker 5: much money as the Kennedys, so he could have hundred
Speaker 5: many such executions if he had wanted to.
Speaker 1: Astounding doctor Mantek, interesting things and how these two assassinations
Speaker 1: paralleled each other, And no, I never bought the Lee
Speaker 1: Harvey Oswald explanation. He might have been. He might have
Speaker 1: been at best of Patsy. I never bought that for
Speaker 1: a second. And we'll never know, unfortunately, unless people like
Speaker 1: you continue to do work. But you've got to have
Speaker 1: information to do this kind of work, and it is
Speaker 1: guarded secrets. And I just don't understand why the government
Speaker 1: just doesn't come clean. You know, there's there's empowerment doctor, Really,
Speaker 1: when you admit something as opposed to trying to keep
Speaker 1: covering it up, covering it up, whether it's whether it's
Speaker 1: a government or in your personal life, there's empowerment in that.
Speaker 1: And I don't think the people in Washington have figured
Speaker 1: that part out. Good luck on your future work, Good
Speaker 1: luck with this book, doctor, Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: your time.
Speaker 5: Oh it's been a pleasure. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: There he is, doctor David Mantick. And again his book
Speaker 1: is JFK was killed by consensus. Deally Plaza was just
Speaker 1: the final stop and he names names. It's coming up
Speaker 1: on two twenty five. It is the average American in
Speaker 1: for the Great American News Radio seven hundred w l W.
Speaker 6: And that's how it should be. And so that'd being said,
Speaker 6: I'll shut up and open it up with questions.
Speaker 1: Hello, bye, I'm broadcasting. Mike tom is back in town.
Speaker 1: That's right, Mike Tomlin's back in town. That is correct.
Speaker 1: You know what he told us this week? You know
Speaker 1: what he told us.
Speaker 6: I would imagine there'll be a certain level of excitement.
Speaker 9: Man, those guys having Joe Flacco in a home venue
Speaker 9: on a Thursday night.
Speaker 6: It's some primetime ball.
Speaker 1: Primetime ball.
Speaker 9: We covered that as well. Yes, we love going into
Speaker 9: hostile environments. We love the visual play.
Speaker 1: We covered that.
Speaker 9: I certainly love and respect and appreciate being a component
Speaker 9: of primetime football.
Speaker 1: You want to be a component of something. What are
Speaker 1: you a component of? Seg What would you say if
Speaker 1: someone said to you, I'm a component of and you
Speaker 1: would say hard media.
Speaker 6: That's what it is.
Speaker 1: You're a component of of that. I think so well,
Speaker 1: you've been there a long time. They give you a
Speaker 1: lot of swag to wear, you know, they give his shirts.
Speaker 1: I've never gotten anything, you know, for my time here,
Speaker 1: like a shirt or anything, a bug, nothing. It's like
Speaker 1: to show up and fill in is what it is.
Speaker 12: That's right.
Speaker 3: Come like it.
Speaker 1: Come down that fire pole from the seventh floor where
Speaker 1: I bunk. We bunk up there me and Sterling and
Speaker 1: Gary Jeff on the roof. Yeah, we got a little
Speaker 1: we got a little bachelor pad up there.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And then when somebody calls in sick or you know,
Speaker 1: sloan has to have sloan has to rehab a bathroom
Speaker 1: or something, they just bring it up there and I
Speaker 1: come right down the pool. I'll fill in.
Speaker 2: Look at how about it?
Speaker 12: You know that that's I gotta find that place. I
Speaker 12: haven't I come up and visit you.
Speaker 1: Well, I would suggest so you and Gary Jeff and Sterling, right,
Speaker 1: come on the thirtieth. The Hawkens Steve Hawkins is up there.
Speaker 1: Come on the thirtieth of every month because the place
Speaker 1: is cleaned on the twenty ninth. It's once a month. Boy,
Speaker 1: we have someone to come in and clean it. It's
Speaker 1: a little crunchy up there right now. But you know,
Speaker 1: come up like that right before Halloween. We'll have you
Speaker 1: up there for.
Speaker 12: Like, like you guys got to give out that candy.
Speaker 12: We're giving out candy. We are you know, we're throwing
Speaker 12: off the roof right, We're giving out mounds.
Speaker 1: We're giving out mounds. Bar Yeah, are good, right, but
Speaker 1: come up there because it gets lonely up there. Gary
Speaker 1: Jeff likes to read. Yeah yeah, at Hawkins. You know
Speaker 1: he's he's you know, he's back to being coherent.
Speaker 12: He's up there. You know, he likes that he's got
Speaker 12: a telescope that he looks at.
Speaker 1: The absolute now Stirling. I mean, he's like got a
Speaker 1: corner of the room where he sits with his legs crossed,
Speaker 1: and you know there's like incense, Yeah, incense is going
Speaker 1: up and he chances I'm one with the universe. I'm
Speaker 1: one with the universe. But other than that, it's a
Speaker 1: very nice place he should come up.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Roxy, Thank yeah Amen.
Speaker 12: Pittsburgh four and one Bengals look to snap that four
Speaker 12: game losing streak tonight at two and four. They meet
Speaker 12: tonight at pay Course Stadium, right there along the Big
Speaker 12: River Mountain.
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Speaker 1: Now, who's that guy saying Bengals.
Speaker 12: That's Alan Cutler. Oh wow, the longtime former UH co
Speaker 12: host of the Bengals radio network.
Speaker 1: Somebody told me he wrote a book.
Speaker 2: Yeah he did.
Speaker 1: Did you read it?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 12: I haven't No, No, he wrote it with the UH.
Speaker 12: You know when he and Hood he chase the football.
Speaker 12: The basketball coach at one day made face. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 12: I think it's something with I don't forget what the name.
Speaker 1: Of the book is.
Speaker 6: This is tough, this hurt. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Bengal fans, all the people that have come through this
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Speaker 1: we could dig up some bones.
Speaker 12: Live from the Depressing, Live from the Holy Grail tonight
Speaker 12: at seven seven outd of WLW. Kickoff is at eight
Speaker 12: point fifteen and then Austin Elmore after the game, roll
Speaker 12: into the night with the Tri State Chevy Dealers post
Speaker 12: game show resented by Arnel carriers. And hopefully, I tell you,
Speaker 12: I hope he I hope they win.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a long night.
Speaker 1: What happens to him if they lose this or something?
Speaker 11: That?
Speaker 5: Nothing?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's being the same old thing, all right.
Speaker 12: Maybe you take updates on the crime and downtown after
Speaker 12: the game or something. Well, you know, phone in, you know,
Speaker 12: he'll take phone calls on that NLCS of rezumes. Tonight
Speaker 12: in Los Angeles, Dodgers up two oh and we're against
Speaker 12: the brew Crew at six. Then the Mariners and the
Speaker 12: Blue Jays go at it in Seattle, game for the
Speaker 12: Alcs and eight thirty with the Mariners.
Speaker 2: Up to oh or two one.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, hey, seg I got a question for you, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: what were you doing? What were you doing? Forty nine
Speaker 1: years ago today? Forty nine years ago today, Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder released the album Songs in the Key of Life.
Speaker 1: It went to number one on the US album charts
Speaker 1: and spawned a number of hits. I wish, Isn't She
Speaker 1: lovely and of course hit it, sir, Duke.
Speaker 6: Music days a Robert than itself.
Speaker 2: The language be all unders.
Speaker 1: It's called hitting the post. You know that, though I
Speaker 1: know I'm Casey case and keep your feet on the
Speaker 1: ground and keep reaching for the stars.
Speaker 12: Let's see Houston has been picked to when the.
Speaker 1: Piece TENO say's I know, I know, not Stevie Wonder,
Speaker 1: but Casey Casey.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, Houston picked the wind is the favorite to
Speaker 12: win the Big twelve men's basketball in the preseason poll.
Speaker 12: B Yu a second, Texas Tech third, Yeah, Wes Miller,
Speaker 12: Cincinnati bear Cats eighth.
Speaker 1: They got some dude that's seven. Is he seven foot
Speaker 1: nine or something like that?
Speaker 12: Yeah, something, But they got their other big man at
Speaker 12: six eight. The Hayes is out for a while. Well,
Speaker 12: that lower body injury, but oh they had one of those.
Speaker 1: I had one of those. Said, I got a lower
Speaker 1: body injury many years ago. It's not pleasant.
Speaker 12: I think I've had one since I've been born. Well,
Speaker 12: it's it's better than a middle body injury. I can
Speaker 12: tell you that I got one of those too. Also,
Speaker 12: ken Brew, we say Congress, good luck, good luck to
Speaker 12: Zach Russ, nineteen year old out of Fort Thomas. He
Speaker 12: balances his life and is aspiring MMA fighter and a
Speaker 12: certified nursing assistant.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, he's a nurse and he beats people up.
Speaker 12: Well, he's gonna Russ is going to make his professional
Speaker 12: MMA the debut what Saturday at the Mega Corp Pavilion
Speaker 12: in Newport.
Speaker 1: No kidding, I mean I did not know this. Yep,
Speaker 1: he's thought you were a kidding there. He's a nurse
Speaker 1: that he's an MMA fighter.
Speaker 12: He was inspired by the a UFC during the pandemic.
Speaker 12: He began this combat sports journey by joining his high
Speaker 12: school wrestling team. Oh okay, that's great. He's going to
Speaker 12: make his debut in Newport on the Saturday. Good luck
Speaker 12: to Fort Thomas. Beautiful, great town North.
Speaker 6: I love.
Speaker 1: I like Fort Thomas.
Speaker 12: Good luck to him.
Speaker 11: I like that. Sey.
Speaker 2: What else do we have here today? That's all we got,
Speaker 2: ken Brew? I think that's it.
Speaker 1: What's going to happen tonight in the stadium. Give me
Speaker 1: a winner, give me a score.
Speaker 12: I think the Bengals win tonight, ken Brew, you think
Speaker 12: they win? Yes, thirty to twenty one.
Speaker 1: So you're looking for a lot of points tonight, Yes,
Speaker 1: thirty to twenty one. Tonight they beat the Steelers.
Speaker 12: Or it could be seven to three, could be they lose. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 12: they're doing for a win win Amen. And you know what,
Speaker 12: ken Brew, The key of to me is they got
Speaker 12: to come out fast. They got to play like they
Speaker 12: have in the past couple of games. They played big
Speaker 12: time in the second half. They got to move that
Speaker 12: to the first half. You got what they gotta do.
Speaker 1: You gotta get down there and tell him that because
Speaker 1: I don't think they're getting I don't think Zach Taylor
Speaker 1: is getting through.
Speaker 12: Whatever he's telling them is, don't defer the kickoff, take
Speaker 12: the ball.
Speaker 1: Get the points.
Speaker 12: Spingo.
Speaker 1: I want to see what the other team does before
Speaker 1: I get the ball. He just cares what the other
Speaker 1: team does. You got the ball, you do something.
Speaker 12: Well, you saw where money Mack had a sixty seven
Speaker 12: yard or the other day he could kick it from
Speaker 12: he could kick it from from Norwood and make the
Speaker 12: field goal.
Speaker 1: He had a sixty seven yard but it didn't didn't
Speaker 1: count because he run around here, say he had a
Speaker 1: sixty sei yet, well it didn't get next and.
Speaker 12: Then at the crossbar and went in instead of if
Speaker 12: he would have done that, he probably would have bounced out.
Speaker 1: And what happened the next time he tried, like like
Speaker 1: two seconds later. The guy always ran it back for
Speaker 1: a touchdown.
Speaker 12: I'll love i'llah the what the Auburn game years ago,
Speaker 12: few years ago with Alabama or something.
Speaker 1: So I don't care what people do when it doesn't count.
Speaker 1: I care about what people do when it counts. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, see what I'm saying here.
Speaker 2: I got you.
Speaker 1: Well, it makes no difference what you say in the
Speaker 1: practice booth there at wyl W. It's what you do
Speaker 1: when you're sitting in here with us. One point. The
Speaker 1: world is full of what might have been. You want
Speaker 1: to be the guy who is the guy that makes
Speaker 1: it happen.
Speaker 3: I'll see.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Another thing for my T shirt too,
Speaker 1: When it's going to be a million seller, it could
Speaker 1: be under you know, well, you know what, I'll just
Speaker 1: give it. Who's the guy, the the comedian with the
Speaker 1: sincy shirt store. I'll give it a hemy Jos Josh Need. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you give him a slogan and a picture logo and
Speaker 1: a picture he'll he'll sell it for like thirty dollars
Speaker 1: and go.
Speaker 12: You know, you get half of it put my little
Speaker 12: on there, royalty, just.
Speaker 1: My little face on there. Just you know, it's what
Speaker 1: you do now is what matters.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: You go say, get us out of the Stewoge report
Speaker 1: because apparently we have to be out early. There's something
Speaker 1: called a whoopsie who day. And then after that it's
Speaker 1: it's the boys from the grail.
Speaker 12: Ken brew it unter of hood, a nation and a victory.
Speaker 12: Hopefully tonight we leave you with the immortal words of
Speaker 12: the stew Dripple. Yeah that's Tom Tinkle.
Speaker 15: My dentist thinks that that really is somebody with bad
Speaker 15: gas what he does on time right either Yeah, there's
Speaker 15: some guy that.
Speaker 16: Can do that onto it might be I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 16: win the game for since him, naddie, Yeah, play it
Speaker 16: he does. It's an elephant all the things, the elephant
Speaker 16: with bad gas.
Speaker 17: Excuse me, and if you've ever been around an elephant
Speaker 17: with bad gas, you don't want.
Speaker 12: To be or that that again, he's that can smell
Speaker 12: it from the zoo from here it is, I'm just
Speaker 12: telling you our rhino.
Speaker 1: Do they still play this at the games?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good, good good.
Speaker 17: Andrew Whitworth at the Ruler of the Jungle tonight Andrew Woodworth,
Speaker 17: you know else's in town fixing Ryan Fitzpatrick fitzi fitzy
Speaker 17: Ryan Fitzpatrick or is it Patrick fitz Ryan?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: Is Ryan Fitzpatrick. When he's at the game tonight, what if.
Speaker 12: It'll rip his shirt off after the post game show
Speaker 12: on TV.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: I remember when when he was here, it looked like
Speaker 1: he he actually made games exciting in a season that
Speaker 1: he was not very exciting.
Speaker 6: I mean, that dude put it up.
Speaker 2: Amen to them, you got Nember, what's going to happen next?
Speaker 1: But he just made it exciting. And they and they
Speaker 1: and you know what, they still haven't replaced Whitworth.
Speaker 12: He may he make me if he didn't like the
Speaker 12: first half, he may suit up the second half.
Speaker 1: We gotta go because we got Whoopsie who Day and
Speaker 1: then we got we got the boys from the Grails,
Speaker 1: So we can't. We can't dawdle here, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? I got you, thank you, yes, Sir can Bruce.
Speaker 1: Later he is seg walking out the door. That'll do
Speaker 1: it for me. I don't know when will he's back,
Speaker 1: but I know I'm not filling in for him tomorrow,
Speaker 1: and the rest of the stuff is mere. Details on
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