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Speaker 1: Downtown Cincinnati will be a buzz tonight. Thus stubllers are

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Speaker 1: there will be, as always with any Bengals game night

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Speaker 1: is negotiating with the current police chief, Thereesa Thiji to resign.

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Speaker 1: She has been called back from Denver, from where all

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Speaker 1: Police President Ken kobt Ket. How are you on this

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Speaker 1: glorious day.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 1: They're going to can Thiji, aren't they.

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Speaker 2: I suspect it's coming. It's just a matter of time.

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Speaker 1: From what I've seen in the comments you've made, she's

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is the problem, and I've told other

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Speaker 2: Here to these bus stops, and he just refuses to

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Speaker 4: She's gone to the mayor and say, listen, you've got

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Speaker 4: to do something with these judges. Put pressure on these

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Speaker 2: That's the bottom line.

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Speaker 1: Well, we've got a mayor's election, as you well know,

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Speaker 1: We have a largely Democrat bench in the city of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: Oh, without a doubt, I was told yesterday and this

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Speaker 2: They're out on EMU. They murder and they're out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just given the current makeup of the bench

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know a little bit about this, not a lot,

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Speaker 2: You, absolutely? And that's just it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you've got a community of three hundred thousand

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Speaker 4: Five hundred to one thousand of people are driving all

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Speaker 2: But when you look at that.

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Speaker 4: The comps are doing a fantastic job. You go back

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Speaker 1: Is theg popular inside the rank and file. I know

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Speaker 2: She's getting railroaded.

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Speaker 4: She's nothing but a political pond, and that's one thing

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Speaker 1: Well, it looks like she's I mean, look, if they

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Speaker 1: This is an open ended question, and I know that

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Speaker 4: And the travesty of all this is the men and

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Speaker 1: Well that's it. It looks like that we all know

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Speaker 4: Believe me, there are more than qualified people. We have

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Speaker 1: Ken Cole, I should know this, and I don't. How

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Speaker 1: Who's the best chief you had?

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Speaker 4: You know, there's two debates for this. I will tell

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, you look and we had you Elliot Isaac.

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Speaker 4: Chief Fiji's done a great job with the environment in

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Speaker 1: So you say replacing the chief is not the answer.

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Speaker 1: There are three options reappeal issue five. So the chief

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Speaker 2: There are ways that.

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Speaker 1: Ken, the answer to all of our questions in life

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: That's a sad part is because I don't want to

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Speaker 1: Well, Ken Kober, we always appreciate you having you on.

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Speaker 1: We'll see who you're cheap is by sundown tonight. My

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Speaker 2: Yep, you as well, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: You bet, it is a mess. And let me just

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Speaker 1: This is a battle of old guys. I love old

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Speaker 1: He was salivating over the opportunity to defend against Jake Browning.

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Speaker 1: Now he's got to deal with Flacco, who may or

442
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Speaker 1: may not have hit his stride in the second half

443
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Speaker 1: of that game on Sunday. We'll see better evidence coming tonight.

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Speaker 1: Standing by to join us right now is somebody that

445
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Speaker 1: knows all of this stuff inside out. He is the

446
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Speaker 1: president and CEO of Resilience Media. What is that, I

447
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 1: don't know. I think he's kind of like a facilitator.

448
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Speaker 1: But anyway, primary coverage and primary facilitation efforts are in

449
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Speaker 1: the world of sports, We've had Neil Coolong on before

450
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,880
Speaker 1: when he was with USA Today and then with SI

451
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Speaker 1: dot Com and now here he is president and CEO

452
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Speaker 1: of his own company. Who would want that? Neil Coolong,

453
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Speaker 1: how are you on this glorious day.

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Speaker 10: I'm doing very well, still in my keyjote like approach

455
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Speaker 10: to finding whatever else is out there. But it's it's

456
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Speaker 10: a it's a crazy new world, but it's exciting and

457
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Speaker 10: there's always NFL to discuss and go over.

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Speaker 3: So I'm excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, okay, So we have. As we were joking

460
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Speaker 1: back and forth on Twitter the other day, it's this

461
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Speaker 1: is not a game for the ages. This is a

462
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Speaker 1: game for the aged. This is the This is the

463
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Speaker 1: Icy Hot Bowl. According to Aaron Rodgers and to Joe Flacco,

464
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Speaker 1: who would have thought at the end of last season

465
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Speaker 1: it would be Rogers against Flaco's Steelers against Bengals, But

466
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Speaker 1: that's why they played the games. Neil, who is the

467
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Speaker 1: more successful aging veteran at this point? In your opinion?

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Speaker 10: I think if we were to break it down like that,

469
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Speaker 10: Rogers probably has a step on Flacco.

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Speaker 3: But the reason the Bengals.

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Speaker 10: Brought Flacco in is because the more able, bodied, somewhat

472
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Speaker 10: experienced quarterback that they had wasn't working out. And what

473
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Speaker 10: they really want is to put it in this context,

474
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Speaker 10: the studio musician. You know, Flacco is going to come in,

475
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Speaker 10: he's going to play the music, and he's going to leave.

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Speaker 6: They have.

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Speaker 10: Abnormally powerful weapons within that offense that Jake Browning was

478
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Speaker 10: not utilizing fully and they needed somebody that could just

479
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Speaker 10: would simply be able to diagnose what a defense is

480
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Speaker 10: doing and get the playmakers the ball in an effort

481
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Speaker 10: to salvage whatever they can in an adverse situation. And

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Speaker 10: I think Flacco is a reasonable option for that, and

483
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Speaker 10: he was probably the most affordable option all things considered.

484
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Speaker 10: You know that there are others out there that probably

485
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Speaker 10: have more physical skill, but experience in that kind of

486
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Speaker 10: situation counts a ton. And this is one why a

487
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Speaker 10: guy like Joe Flacco and even Aaron Rodgers are still

488
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Speaker 10: in the NFL. In two why teams largely consider their

489
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Speaker 10: backup quarterback to be a top twenty roster spot. When

490
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Speaker 10: that starter goes down, there's a lot you can't replace,

491
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Speaker 10: and because of that, you're going to have to You know,

492
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Speaker 10: the coaches will never say that you're going to have

493
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Speaker 10: to compensate in other ways. The one thing you absolutely

494
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Speaker 10: cannot have is a guy that's afraid or inexperience in

495
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Speaker 10: performing under the lights. And I think that's the situation

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Speaker 10: that we have tonight. You've got two veteran quarterbacks that

497
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Speaker 10: are not the physical specimen they used to be. They're

498
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Speaker 10: both Super Bowl champion quarterbacks, they both have two of

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Speaker 10: the best postseason performances in NFL history.

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Speaker 3: In my opinion, they're a long way from that.

501
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Speaker 10: What they can do is identify a defense and conduct

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Speaker 10: an offense within a structure that will utilize the weapons

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Speaker 10: they have available.

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Speaker 1: Why is Mike Tomlin so bent out of shape that

505
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Speaker 1: the Browns made this trade with the Bengals to get Flaco?

506
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Speaker 1: Why does he care? I mean, I know we'd rather

507
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Speaker 1: face Browning than Flaco, But over and above that, why

508
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Speaker 1: would Mike Tomlin care?

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Speaker 10: I you know, it's it's funny, that's really kind of

510
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Speaker 10: the question of the week on the inside, because go

511
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Speaker 10: back seventeen years, very rarely do you see Tomlin kind of,

512
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Speaker 10: you know, get bristled up a little bit over something.

513
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Speaker 10: He does not comment negatively on opponents. Ever, there was

514
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Speaker 10: a joke we used to have in the room, you

515
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Speaker 10: can play Bengo based on the opponent, and we tried

516
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Speaker 10: to assign who the cliche was going to be about,

517
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Speaker 10: like combat catch guy was this guy, or you know

518
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Speaker 10: he covers every blade of grass will be this guy.

519
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Speaker 10: For him to say what he did, it was awfully pointed,

520
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 10: and I don't think it's so much pointed at the Bengals.

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Speaker 10: I think what if I were to guess, and this

522
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Speaker 10: is pure speculation on my part, I don't know anything

523
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Speaker 10: about it. I think what he's saying is the Bengals

524
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Speaker 10: are a dangerous team even if Joe Burrow is not playing.

525
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Speaker 10: Obviously they're going to take a step back, but you

526
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Speaker 10: can find ways to beat teams with the weapons that

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Speaker 10: they have on offense if you get a quarterback that

528
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Speaker 10: can be averaged.

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Speaker 3: Browning was not average in that sense.

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Speaker 10: The Browns deciding to send a veteran quarterback inside the

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Speaker 10: division who's a noticeable step up based on the two

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Speaker 10: games that we saw.

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Speaker 3: Poor Jake Browning. I don't know what happened to.

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Speaker 10: Him to help them improve that keeps them alive within

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Speaker 10: the division, and I think that's kind of what he

536
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Speaker 10: is saying like, why would you do that? If you're

537
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Speaker 10: Andrew Berry. You're not getting anything out of that. You're

538
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Speaker 10: still paying most of Flacco's salary, which isn't all that

539
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 10: much anyway. You swapped picks, so it's the difference of

540
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Speaker 10: like seventeen picks unless you had an extreme problem.

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Speaker 3: With Joe Flacco. How are you benefiting from this deal

542
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Speaker 3: at all? And conversely, the Bengals made the deal of

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Speaker 3: the year.

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Speaker 10: I know we're not going to look at it that

545
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Speaker 10: way as it being that intense of a transaction that

546
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Speaker 10: could save their season.

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Speaker 1: How is this playing out tonight? Because I looked at

548
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Speaker 1: the Steelers, nothing really jumps out at me. Statistically for them,

549
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Speaker 1: they don't run the ball particularly well on average. Although

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Speaker 1: Warren has had his moments, Rogers his days of throwing

551
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Speaker 1: close to four hundred and three touchdown passes pretty much

552
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Speaker 1: gone by. The offensive line seems to have done okay.

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Speaker 1: He's not getting sacked a lot. Defensively, they look like

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Speaker 1: they're healthy and they're pretty darn good. But I'm just wondering,

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Speaker 1: if you look at this game tonight, I'm wondering if

556
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Speaker 1: we're going to eclipse thirty points in this game? And

557
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Speaker 1: that's combined. How do you see this thing playing out?

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Speaker 10: We've said that a lot about these games. You never

559
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 10: know when it comes to Thursday night games within the division.

560
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Speaker 10: You know, we spent the last week talking about Jackson

561
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Speaker 10: Dart basically being the reincarnation of Joe Montana. When you're

562
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Speaker 10: familiar with your opponent and you have the opportunity on

563
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Speaker 10: a short week to kind of seize momentum in a

564
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Speaker 10: game and really, you know, throw a knockout blow at

565
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Speaker 10: somebody that can go either way. I don't think Cincinnati

566
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Speaker 10: had a fairly significant hurdle to overcome, but they're professionals.

567
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Speaker 10: When jobs get you know, challenged, I'm not saying threatened,

568
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Speaker 10: but a bad season is not going to do well

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Speaker 10: for your coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's true of anybody.

571
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Speaker 10: If if you're going to show that one player is

572
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Speaker 10: the reason you're able to do absolutely anything, they're going

573
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Speaker 10: to look for other coaches. They're going to improve everybody else.

574
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Speaker 10: So they're they're they're going to be fully invested in that.

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Speaker 10: And on top of that, it's not like they need

576
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 10: to sit down and categorically break down everything Pittsburgh does.

577
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 10: They know Pittsburgh well, they know the tendencies, they have

578
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Speaker 10: veteran players, they're going to have a good sense of

579
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Speaker 10: who they are in that I would agree. I would

580
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Speaker 10: probably feel this would be lower scoring just because it

581
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Speaker 10: seems like these games, especially in the AFC North, they're

582
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 10: they're for jabbers more than haymakers. They're not going to,

583
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Speaker 10: you know, really kind of push the knockout blow. But

584
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Speaker 10: at the same time, if I'm Cincinnati, look I've got

585
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Speaker 10: I've got t Higgins, I've got Jamar Chase. I'm going

586
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Speaker 10: to put them to work. Let's let's get them down

587
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 10: the field. I'm however many points it is underdog tonight,

588
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Speaker 10: I'm going to try to make big plays because, to

589
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 10: be honest with you, looking at the Steelers film, I

590
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 10: don't see a team that one really wants to try

591
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 10: for those big plays. And two probably because we're not

592
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 10: going to be all that successful of them play a play.

593
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Speaker 10: I like what DK Metcalf did last week. I don't

594
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Speaker 10: know if his body of work to this point is

595
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Speaker 10: representative of a player that is going to make big plays,

596
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Speaker 10: all things being equal, I think a lot of the

597
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Speaker 10: place he's made to this point is defenders slipping on

598
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Speaker 10: turf miscommunications and coverage.

599
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: We've seen that to this point.

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Speaker 10: Either way, there are two players who, in my opinion,

601
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 10: are noticeably better than DK Metcalf on the other side

602
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 10: of the ball. I think Cincinnati can get away with that.

603
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 10: Are they going to risk the takeaways? Are they going

604
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Speaker 10: to risk deep drops with an old and immobile quarterback

605
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 10: against a pretty aggressive pass rush. That's where I think

606
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 10: this probably goes more into a lower scoring tilt. But

607
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 10: you never know on Thursday night.

608
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Speaker 1: No, you know, you really never do. But there are

609
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Speaker 1: storylines all over this game I think make it kind

610
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Speaker 1: of kind of intriguing. Neil Coolong he is, as I say,

611
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Speaker 1: the king looking for a kingdom, but he's with Resilience Media.

612
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: And this is a guy that has worked in a

613
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Speaker 1: number of different places, including covering the Steelers as a

614
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: beat writer working for USA Today, and I think all

615
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Speaker 1: points in between and nose Pittsburgh inside out. Sorry, so

616
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Speaker 1: I got thirty seconds, give me a final score.

617
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Speaker 10: I'm going to say Pittsburgh twenty six Cincinnati.

618
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Speaker 3: Twenty. I think it'll be competitive.

619
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Speaker 1: Okay, so it gets over thirty, it gets over thirty.

620
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I just I'm leaning into that because I feel

621
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Speaker 10: like there's going to be the last drive. They could

622
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Speaker 10: result in a touchdown to kind of break open a

623
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Speaker 10: nineteen sixteen nineteen nineteen.

624
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Speaker 3: Type of game. They're going to play close for most

625
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Speaker 3: of it.

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Speaker 10: I think the game is going to swing in one

627
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Speaker 10: way or another in the second half.

628
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Speaker 1: Okay, so you see you like forty six in this game.

629
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Speaker 1: I think the number in this game the last time

630
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Speaker 1: I looked was somewhere around forty four. I think it's

631
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Speaker 1: a forty three and a half right now. So you're

632
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: saying it dances with the number, and it's Pittsburgh minus

633
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: five and a half. So it's what you take is

634
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: the over. If you're Neil Koolong and you take the

635
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: Steelers and give the points, that's what you're saying.

636
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: You say it like that, You make me want to

637
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: change my mind.

638
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 10: I'm gonna got the Steelers the historic They are so

639
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 10: bad on the road on Thursday nights.

640
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: Gosh, that's tough.

641
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Speaker 1: Are you that week that I changed your mind in

642
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: thirty seconds on this thing? Are you that week?

643
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 10: It's I don't trust the Steelers on Thursday night. You

644
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 10: know I talked to Cleveland radio stations. How many times

645
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 10: I picked Cleveland to win, and they laughed at me

646
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 10: in these games. Yeah, Steelers don't play well on Thursday night. Now,

647
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 10: this is earlier in the year when you get you know,

648
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 10: the past couple of seasons, they have older teams playing

649
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 10: late in the year on Thursday night. And if they're

650
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 10: they're dead. They've got nothing in those games. But they

651
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 10: get killed. And it wouldn't surprise me if if this

652
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 10: is a lot more competitive than people think that it will.

653
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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna stick with the over. I just think

654
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a late touchdown in there.

655
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Speaker 1: Well, it's all right, I mean it's it's it's radio.

656
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna come looking for you if you're if you're wrong,

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Speaker 1: But that's okay. That's why we like having you on.

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Speaker 1: Neil Coolong. You can follow them on Twitter. It's the

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Speaker 1: at sign in his name Neil with an A N

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Speaker 1: E A L coulong c l o ng. All right,

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Speaker 1: my friends, stay well, you and I will visit probably

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Speaker 1: close to that next game here in about a month.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm already looking forward.

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Speaker 1: To listen to you. I'm toying with the under in

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Speaker 1: this game. I just am. I just can't. I can't

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Speaker 1: bring myself to take the over. Now watch it be

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Speaker 1: like thirty eight thirty four or something like that. But

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Speaker 1: I just I just got I have a feeling about

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Speaker 1: the under in this one. We'll see twelve fifty three already,

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Speaker 1: My goodness, we are plowing forward very close to the

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Speaker 1: Bengals pregame show at three o'clock on news Radio seven

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Speaker 1: hundred wl W. All right one six news Radio seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW. Welcome back to the average American and for

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Speaker 1: the great American on this Thursday. Wherever you are, however

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Speaker 1: you're consuming this show, whether it's through the great and

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Speaker 1: I mean great medium of terrestrial radio or perhaps the

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Speaker 1: iHeartMedia app, we welcome you on it. We really do.

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Speaker 1: And you know, there are a lot of things buzzing around,

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Speaker 1: certainly here in the city of Cincinnati. Monday night football, well,

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Speaker 1: I guess it's Thursday night. Put Thursday night football is

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Speaker 1: in town. That's going to be a big event. The

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Speaker 1: safety of the city and your ability to go down

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Speaker 1: there and see that game and do other things in

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Speaker 1: around the greater Cincinnati area Hamblin County, but in particularly

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Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati, that's of great concern. I know,

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Speaker 1: to a lot of people, A lot of people are suburbians.

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Speaker 1: They don't go to Hamilton County into the city of

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati every single day, and so they don't know what

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Speaker 1: to expect. We've seen the news reports, We've heard the verbiage.

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Speaker 1: We know the police chief is about to be fired

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Speaker 1: or will work out some resignation, and people are wondering,

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Speaker 1: you know, what do I really want to you know,

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Speaker 1: what can I find around my town? What can't I

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Speaker 1: find that I have to find in the city of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: And the answer is pretty much nothing. The Reds, of

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Speaker 1: course play downtown, the Bengals play downtown, and of course

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Speaker 1: there might be one or two other things that might

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Speaker 1: draw you to downtown Cincinnati. But by and large, anything

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Speaker 1: that's in downtown Cincinnati that you think is great, restaurant, shopping,

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Speaker 1: whatever it may be, is available where you live, or

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Speaker 1: at least very close to where you live. And it's

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Speaker 1: an image problem that the city of Cincinnati has. It

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Speaker 1: is a growing image problem. And as I I said,

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Speaker 1: and what I had Ken Kobleer on here about an

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Speaker 1: hour ago, all it's going to take is one or

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Speaker 1: two high profile businesses to pull out and say, you

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Speaker 1: know what, we're done, we're moving. We're moving to Westchester,

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Speaker 1: or we're moving to Erlanger, or we're moving someplace other

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Speaker 1: than downtown Cincinnati. And all of a sudden, you've got

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Speaker 1: major problems financial and otherwise in downtown Cincinnati. So politics aside,

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Speaker 1: and I know you can't do that with this particular situation.

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Speaker 1: Unless they can get a handle on this thing, it

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Speaker 1: will affect this city financially. And so they've I seek,

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Speaker 1: I think reluctantly embraced the state help that the governor

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Speaker 1: has offered. And so you'll probably see some more state

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Speaker 1: police in and around downtown Cincinnati. But it's an indictment

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Speaker 1: really of the ability to recruit new officers and of

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Speaker 1: a message that is emanating from city Hall that cascades

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Speaker 1: into the courtroom. Were these judges, these relatively new judges

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Speaker 1: sit that think it's okay, you know, term loose, no

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Speaker 1: matter what they did, term loose, rehabilitate them. There things

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Speaker 1: buzzing around the world too, and not the least of

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Speaker 1: which is an uneasy piece in the Middle East. We

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Speaker 1: saw what the President did earlier this week. We know

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Speaker 1: that the last of the twenty living hostages held by

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Speaker 1: Hamas in Gaza are now back in Israel. The hostages

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Speaker 1: were kidnapped, as we know on October seventh, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: We also know that there were many of those hostages

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Speaker 1: that simply did not survive. Where are the bodies? Hamas

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Speaker 1: brought another body back to Israel, at least through the

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Speaker 1: Red Cross back to Israel, but they've been playing games

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Speaker 1: with some of the remains standing by the way. In

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Speaker 1: as somebody who knows Middle East politics and the way

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Speaker 1: things are in that area of the world. He is

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Speaker 1: a trained Middle East historian PhD from King's College in London,

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Speaker 1: and he's written a lot of books about Arab Israeli

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Speaker 1: conflicts and American forum policy as such. And it's great

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Speaker 1: to have doctor ASoP Romerowski join us once again here

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Speaker 1: on seven hundred w welw and doctor, how are you

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Speaker 1: on this glorious Thursday?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 11: How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm well, okay, give me some odds. How do you think?

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Speaker 1: What do you think the odds are of this piece

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Speaker 1: holding for let's say thirty days.

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Speaker 11: Well, it's already hasn't really fulfilled itself. I mean, I

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Speaker 11: think we need to contextualize what we're seeing here, you know,

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Speaker 11: there's no doubt that this was an historic event. In

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Speaker 11: the moment that you to see the reunification of the

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Speaker 11: families of the hostages who've been in captivity in the

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Speaker 11: really in the dungeon hollows of Gaza, in these terror tunnels.

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Speaker 11: That being said, you're already seeing that the second part

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Speaker 11: of the deal, which was supposed to be the those

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Speaker 11: who uh, those who have perished, the dead hostages are

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Speaker 11: only coming out in drips and drabs uh. And to

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Speaker 11: even give your listeners a context of some of this,

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Speaker 11: four of the bodies that were returned yesterday, one of

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Speaker 11: them was not even a hostage, was not even a

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Speaker 11: body of a hostage. And that was something these kind

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Speaker 11: of psychological games we saw early on in the war,

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Speaker 11: for example with the Bevas family, which again they when

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Speaker 11: they got to the forensic institute in Tel Aviv, they

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Speaker 11: realized that they put in other body parts. So this

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Speaker 11: is the unfortunate psychological game that Hamas is putting on.

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Speaker 11: And let's not forget the fact that at the moment

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Speaker 11: that Israel moved out of the area that they were in,

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Speaker 11: Hamas is already executing people in the streets, and nobody's

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Speaker 11: reporting about it.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, very few I've seen. I've seen a couple, but

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen certainly not the mainstream media. They're they're

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Speaker 1: not going to reap or anything like that. But all right,

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Speaker 1: who didn't think Hamas was going to do this? I

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Speaker 1: mean they had to. I mean even the people that

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Speaker 1: were instrumental in putting this deal together, and that would

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Speaker 1: start with President Trump, and I think you would have

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Speaker 1: to look at the leaders of Turkey and Qatar and

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Speaker 1: other places like that. They would have had to have

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Speaker 1: known that Hamas is. They're just they're just untrustworthy people.

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Speaker 1: So they they had to know something like this was

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Speaker 1: going to happen, didn't they.

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Speaker 11: Yes. I mean, look, let's not forget the fact that

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Speaker 11: Turkey and Cutter were also patrons of Hanas. They're the

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Speaker 11: ones who also funded UH ten to seven. And of

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Speaker 11: course let's not we cannot forget. And when we were

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Speaker 11: missed the mission to miss the Islamic Republic of Iran,

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Speaker 11: it's in their DNA. I think that there was larger interest,

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Speaker 11: that is to say, what Cutter and what Turkey went

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Speaker 11: out of the United States, you know, as far as

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Speaker 11: Turkey one, uh, you know, a playing deal when it

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Speaker 11: comes to the f thirty five UH and the discussion

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Speaker 11: going on there cut our once a new airbase. You know,

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Speaker 11: there's a lot of things as far as their own

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Speaker 11: national interests that supersede what they're deal with Hamas.

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Speaker 3: Is.

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Speaker 11: Their message to Hamas was that basically, this is the

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Speaker 11: best deal you're going to get after two years, you

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Speaker 11: might as well take it. And in return, Hamas is

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Speaker 11: receiving close to two thousand active terrorists from Israeli prisons

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Speaker 11: who are going to be fortifying the bench. The larger issue,

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Speaker 11: I think for the Trump administration is more about the

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Speaker 11: regional objectives, and that is to say, if Indonesia, who's

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Speaker 11: been making comments already about joining the Abram records, and

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Speaker 11: more importantly the Saudis who creditated their involvement on the

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Speaker 11: ending of the war, which is a big deal for

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Speaker 11: the US and for Israel that would be a big

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Speaker 11: win the war with Hamas itself. Again, you're not going

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Speaker 11: to change their ideology. You're not going to change their DNA.

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Speaker 11: You're talking about a Jihati barbarics, a elimination of ideology.

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Speaker 11: That is that they believe in hook, line and sinker,

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Speaker 11: and that's they're committed to that.

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Speaker 1: So back in the summer, Trump sends a bunch of

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Speaker 1: B two bombers over to Iran and blows up some

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Speaker 1: of their nuclear sites, the damage of which you know

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Speaker 1: might have been in contention. The administration said, look, we

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Speaker 1: basically neutralize this group, and that was the chief funder

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Speaker 1: for Hamas. You do economic deals with Turkey and Qatar,

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Speaker 1: and that's how you attack that particular problem with regards

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Speaker 1: to Hamas and how it's being fostered and funded. That

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Speaker 1: seems to be the art of the deal. No pun

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Speaker 1: intended here for the president. That's how we attack this thing.

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Speaker 1: But everybody now has a little bit of stake in

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Speaker 1: this game, don't they. I mean, if Aron starts wearing

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Speaker 1: its ugly head again, here come the B two s,

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Speaker 1: and Turkey and Katar don't get what they want economically

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Speaker 1: for certain if they start fooling around with Hamas again.

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Speaker 1: So he's trying to cut all of this off at

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Speaker 1: the head, is he not?

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Speaker 11: Yes? And I think that to some extent he's been

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Speaker 11: able to do that. Not to mention to your earlier point,

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Speaker 11: suffocating from US financially, which is obviously critical, I think that,

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Speaker 11: you know, creating a regional environment, and specifically as it

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Speaker 11: relates to the understanding that Iran is the greatest destabilizing

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Speaker 11: force in the region and creating a coalition of countries

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Speaker 11: the Saudis, the Israeli, the Jordanians, the Egyptians who are

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Speaker 11: willing to fight him back with the United States, that

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Speaker 11: is a useful move. Not to mention, you know, one

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Speaker 11: should not, you know, ignore the fact that, uh, what

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Speaker 11: we saw and you're illustrated was a phenomenal illustration of

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Speaker 11: the US Israel alliance when they are on the same page,

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Speaker 11: you know, going back to Trump's speech at the Israeli

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Speaker 11: parliament this week with Natanya together, and so the message

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Speaker 11: to the our world as a hamas that there is

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Speaker 11: no there is no wishy washing policies here. Israel and

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Speaker 11: the US are on the same day, and the US

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Speaker 11: will back Israel militarily if and when they need to

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Speaker 11: continue this battle. And that's also been a message that

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Speaker 11: has come out of the Frump administration, which again the

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Speaker 11: previous administration was waf pulling on this matter. And I

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Speaker 11: think that the fact that we are in the same

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Speaker 11: page now, you know, does show the turns and does

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Speaker 11: show that they are going to act when they need to.

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Speaker 1: I saw former Harvard professor Alan Dershwitz on one of

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Speaker 1: the programs in the last couple of days. He said,

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Speaker 1: this deal would be unattainable for presidents Obama or Biden.

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Speaker 1: Obama tried to buy some sort of deal with Iran

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Speaker 1: and therefore it's it's subsidiaries like kamal Us with money.

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Speaker 1: And Biden was just I mean, he was a complete

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Speaker 1: neurological mess when he was in office and probably wasn't

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Speaker 1: running the country, let alone foreign policy. But Trump got

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Speaker 1: a deal that the other two guys before him could

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Speaker 1: not get. It was Dershowitz, right.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't disagree with Dershowitz on that point. I mean,

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Speaker 11: I think that we were engaged, and specifically under the

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Speaker 11: Obama years in this policy of appeasements towards Dran which

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Speaker 11: was followed through by the Biden administration. And you saw

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Speaker 11: that the mixed messages that came out of the Biden administration,

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Speaker 11: even in the first months and you know, I would

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Speaker 11: say sixty days of the war, where they were already

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Speaker 11: trying to appease come out and trying to make the Israelis,

870
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Speaker 11: which eventually is what they did fight with one hand

871
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 11: behind their backs. And that was that all around. It

872
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 11: was only when the Israelis were able to turn the

873
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Speaker 11: corner and make those significant successes that were aparently wise

874
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 11: taking out Habalah, you know, you know, going after run,

875
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 11: moving along when it came to Rau inside of Gazza

876
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 11: that you did see these more military significant moves and

877
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Speaker 11: that and that, and that worked well and was for

878
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Speaker 11: fortified once Trump came into office in January.

879
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Speaker 1: Okay, see you've got Hamas and one of the bodies

880
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: that they sent back to Israel is not the body

881
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: of a hostage. They must have spare bodies lying around

882
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: Gaza all over the place. Uh so the body parts

883
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: were not of one of the hostages.

884
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 6: We know that.

885
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: We also know that they have been executing people in

886
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: Gaza city mentioned that before. You know, Trump wants this

887
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: deal to work. This is a this is a crowning

888
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: achievement for him. This is something that no other president,

889
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: to my mind, has been able to pull off. This

890
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: is a coalition of countries that have come together to

891
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: say this is it, and this is the deal, and

892
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: take it or leave it. At what point? At what

893
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: point does patients run out? Because if it's not holding

894
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: here inside of seventy two hours after that paper was signed.

895
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: At what point does patients run out? What is the

896
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Speaker 1: line in your opinion that Hamas must not cross, because

897
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Speaker 1: if they do, then the deal blows up and then

898
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Speaker 1: we're back to military action.

899
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Speaker 11: If we start seeing more rockets flying in from Gazam

900
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Speaker 11: back into Israel, and if we start seeing more military

901
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 11: activity attacking israelis I mean, let's be clear here, Israel

902
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 11: is still about fifty five fifty six percent and still

903
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 11: controlling Gazo and so, and if they need to continue

904
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Speaker 11: the battle and continue to actually go inward where they

905
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Speaker 11: left on those lines, then that'll be a clear red line.

906
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Speaker 1: Doctor, this is going to sound like a basic naive question,

907
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Speaker 1: but I excel at these kinds of questions, so please

908
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Speaker 1: bear with me. We're chatting with doctor s. F. Romerowski, PhD. Well,

909
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Speaker 1: he's a doctor, that's why he's a PhD. King's College, London.

910
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: Why can't everybody in that area of the country of

911
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: the world get along? Is it all religious based? Is

912
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: it all historical? Why can't people see that here now

913
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Speaker 1: as opposed to what happened in the past and just say,

914
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: you know what it's in everybody's best interest financially and

915
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: certainly from a health standpoint, to just start getting along

916
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: with each other. Why can't that happen?

917
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 11: Well, I mean, and if we solve that problem might

918
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 11: be out of business. But you know, there's the you know,

919
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 11: these conflicts have been going on for decades and you

920
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 11: know we're all junking aside. I mean, the fact of

921
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 11: the matter is that the conflict is indeed entangled theologically, culturally, politically,

922
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 11: But when it comes in particular to the Israeli Pabalistinian dynamic,

923
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 11: the ultimate fact that rejectionism is always trump statehood, and

924
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 11: the fact that at every point in time where the

925
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Speaker 11: Arab Palestinians were offered a state a compromise, they've always

926
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Speaker 11: renexed on their promises and they've never followed through. Its

927
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 11: quite telling about their ideology. And Hamas again is not

928
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 11: given up their objective as far as the destruction of

929
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 11: the state of Israel. And so when you have this

930
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 11: black and white binary understanding and the fact that Arab

931
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 11: Palestinians refused to accept Israel's rights to exist, this is

932
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Speaker 11: where it all goes on. And you know, this is

933
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 11: a cycle that continues from generation to generation educationally wise,

934
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Speaker 11: as an academic, I will tell you I mean the

935
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Speaker 11: fact that there is no education towards accepting the other

936
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Speaker 11: and accepting Israel's rights with this in peace, whereas Israeli

937
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 11: textbooks indeed do talk about that. That is also part

938
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Speaker 11: of the rejectionism that you know, is infusing this ideology

939
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Speaker 11: from im a very young age.

940
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Speaker 1: Doctor Hamas has to disarm. Who's going to make them

941
00:48:59,640 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: do that?

942
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 11: I think that we might we will see pressure coming

943
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 11: from the Trump administration to try to get these patrons,

944
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 11: you know, and kind of give carriage. If the Turk

945
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 11: and if the Kataris try to push gazap to uh,

946
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 11: you know, move move along, that could potentially help a deal.

947
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 11: And of course let's not forget the gos in our

948
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 11: Egyptian and so if Egypt gets involved here, that will

949
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 11: be another pressure point to move this along. The more

950
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 11: pressure is coming from the Arab brethren, there is more

951
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 11: of a shot than you could push Kamas. But but

952
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 11: ultimately the ultimate goal is to disentangle Kmas from Palestinian

953
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 11: society such as it is. If you're able to kind

954
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 11: of clean out whatever you can salvage, that's a better

955
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 11: way to go. About this. Kamas is now trying to

956
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 11: reinvent itself as a law and order force, internal security force.

957
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 11: If these are all the trigger and code name that

958
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 11: they're giving themselves as they're going around the streets of

959
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 11: Gaza City and killing their own you know, you know,

960
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 11: you know, executing people left and right. But that needs

961
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 11: to change. The other part of the deal, which was

962
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 11: again another parrot that Wick coffin Trump gave Comas, was amnesty.

963
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 11: That is to say that Hamas leadership could leave Gaza

964
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 11: and go to cut her in Turkey again. Are you

965
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 11: just prolonging and putting a bandit on the problem. That's

966
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 11: my read on the issue. Uh, I mean, we're going

967
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 11: to be in this for a while. Not to mention

968
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 11: the fact that it took Comas twenty years to build

969
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 11: a maye a tunnel, a tunnel maze of Gaza, It'll

970
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 11: take that long to rebuild it. And not to mention

971
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 11: I think last estimates that I saw were like in

972
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 11: the amounts of a circular, you know, circling around one

973
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 11: hundred and twenty one hundred and twenty five billion dollars

974
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 11: that requires to rebuild, rehabilitate and start, you know, and

975
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 11: build something new.

976
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you're right, you're not going to be out

977
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: of business anytime soon. And I know doctor that you're

978
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: a very busy guy this day and age, and we

979
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: appreciate your time here on seven hundred at WYLW. You

980
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 1: take care, Okay, thank you so much, Thank for having me. Yes, sir,

981
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Speaker 1: without a question, Yes, sir, I give it a It's

982
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: not going to last. There's something. It's just you. You're

983
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: talking about centuries of hostilities, and I think it's tenuous

984
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: at best, but at least it's a start. And we'll

985
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: see how good some of these other countries are with

986
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 1: regards to this, because there are a lot of countries

987
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: that he made deals with that I don't trust either.

988
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: It's one twenty seven. It's news Radio seven hundred WLW.

989
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Speaker 2: I see you, you see me, I see you. I'm

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Speaker 2: watching you.

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Speaker 12: I'm broadcasting. She's watching you, I know, ken Brew, I'm watching.

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996
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Speaker 12: the hell is she? That's the police chief. She was

997
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Speaker 12: called back from Denver last night at a police conference.

998
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Speaker 12: I wonder who did you think she had a foot

999
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 12: the bill for that plane? Or do you think the

1000
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,920
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1001
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Speaker 12: grey on.

1003
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Speaker 1: Middle seat coach on the Red Eye.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, she's probably in Wichita, Kansas right now.

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Speaker 1: TG the TG.

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Speaker 12: Well, you know, I don't know what, who knows what?

1007
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 12: You know, what's gonna happen in Downtown's like, you know,

1008
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 12: they're it's unbelievable. They got a football game down there

1009
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Speaker 12: tonight and hopefully everything good the football game in town. Yeah,

1010
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 12: well you heard Ken Kober. He says, get the hell

1011
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Speaker 12: out of there immediately after the game end. Hey, if

1012
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1013
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1014
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1015
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Speaker 12: Pam brought up second. And you know what the special

1029
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1030
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Speaker 1: Well, I would be a poor substitute for will.

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Speaker 2: He see you tube?

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Speaker 3: Ken Brew.

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Speaker 1: Say let me ask you this, yes, sir, how many

1041
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: Steeler fans you think will be there tonight? And will

1042
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: they outnumber Bengals fans. I think they'll be.

1043
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 12: There's usually like a fair amount of past Steeler fans

1044
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Speaker 12: at any game.

1045
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Speaker 1: No, I got a book here. I won't give his

1046
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Speaker 1: real name. Okay, I'm not going to do that, but

1047
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Speaker 1: let's for for this sake, let's call him Ralph. Okay,

1048
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: Ralph gets season tickets to the Bengals games, and he

1049
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: goes to every game except the Steeler game because he

1050
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: then puts those tickets on stub Hubb or whatever the

1051
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: hell it is and make hays for his entire rest

1052
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: of his season tickets. That's what I looked at. I

1053
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: saw him two days as you go all the game,

1054
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: I said, what'd you get for those tickets? And let's

1055
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: just put it this way, he could have bought two

1056
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: more season tickets for what he got. Here's somebody, here's

1057
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Speaker 1: some some Stullar, some Stullar fan from that'll be here.

1058
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Speaker 1: So pa that's coming in and paid Ralph, They'll be here,

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Speaker 1: ken Brew. You know that because like just like the well,

1060
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Speaker 1: maybe the Browns fans might not be anymore, but they're

1061
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: showing up like the Cubs.

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Speaker 12: coach Jr. House, Yes, has been hired by the Arizona

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Speaker 12: Diamondbacks are the same position. He's an Arizona native, so

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Speaker 12: he's probably home six. So he wants to go home

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Speaker 12: spend twenty nineteen and to twenty twenty five of the Reds.

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Speaker 12: He was the last of the coaching staff on this

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Speaker 12: current Reds group under David Bell. So Jr. House just

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Speaker 12: wants to go back home and he got hired by

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Speaker 12: the Diamondbacks.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what I mean that that happens. You

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Speaker 1: know if somebody said said, list think if you were

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Speaker 1: very successful there. Yeah, but then the phone call came

1082
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Speaker 1: from WLW and you said, I got to go home.

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00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't care how successful I am here. I got

1084
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: to go home. True, you would do it right. We

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00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: don't begrudge people for doing that.

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00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 12: Spencer Steer and Key Brian Hayes our finalist for the

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00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 12: Baseball Gold Glove Awards. It's going to be announced November two.

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00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: We don't keep up. Key Brian's not up for any

1089
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: offensive awards like the Silk Slugger.

1090
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 2: We know that's for sure.

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00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 12: American League Championship Series Game three last night, Toronto belts

1092
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 12: out five homes, thirteen to four, round of the Mariners. Yeah,

1093
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 12: Seattle is still up to to one tonight at eight thirty.

1094
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 12: Game four. The NLCS resumes tonight in Los Angeles. Dodgers

1095
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 12: own a two zero lead against the Brew crew crew

1096
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 12: to to night six o'clock.

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00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: They have not named a starting pitcher yet for tonight's games.

1098
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: Have not You're not going to say so. And Tyler

1099
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: Glasnell is on the mound for the Dodgers. Another tough one. Now,

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00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: let's see college basketball, Ken Brew. Those Cincinnati Bearcats are

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00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: going north.

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Speaker 12: The exhibition play tomorrow right against the team up north

1103
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 12: in Michigan, Xavier and Murray State at the centas Center

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00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 12: Saturday afternoon in exhibition play.

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00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: For some reason, we're broadcasting that game at two o'clock.

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00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,479
Speaker 1: Do you do all that if that game is being

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00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: being carried live here on WYLW.

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Speaker 2: I did not know that.

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00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, most of these scrimmages are these exhibition games. They

1110
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: play for like a half, then they turn the clock off,

1111
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: then they work on individual drills. I think, I think Joe,

1112
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: I think the Show and Byron are going to have

1113
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: a lot of work to do on Saturday. It's not

1114
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: a typical back and forth game.

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Speaker 12: Also, ken Brew, we want to say congratulations that you

1116
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 12: see Claremont. Their girls volleyball team is number one in

1117
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 12: the nation in the USCAA Division two volleyball pole. There

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00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 12: you go, gratulations absolutely. Hockey tonight Columbus hosting Coloradombs Cyclones.

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00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: They're not very good, are they?

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00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: Either?

1121
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: One and two?

1122
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 12: Well it's Cyclones open their season Saturday night against Wheeling.

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00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: Namely three guys on the Cyclones Justin Vive, Paul Lawless, no,

1124
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: he's retired, and Don Biggs.

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Speaker 3: No.

1126
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: I think Justin Vive is the only one I can remember.

1127
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: They turn the roster turns over a lot year to.

1128
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Speaker 12: Years, exactly new coach and everything fer Cyclones a new coach,

1129
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 12: and the Miami RedHawks ken Brew four and o in

1130
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 12: hockey four and oh look out they're gonna do. They're

1131
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 12: gonna be the Miami Dolphins of college hockey. Miami's gonna

1132
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 12: go fifty and oh in hote.

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00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's great, Seg. That's good for them. What's

1134
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: the Ohio University hockey team doing? Can we get some

1135
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: coverage for them? Why not?

1136
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 12: Right, I think they're on I think they're on the

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00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 12: Project tonight, Seg. Let me just ask you a question, yes, sir, yeah,

1139
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 12: you're not. You don't live in Cincinnati. Do you know

1140
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 12: you live in a suburb. We're not going to give

1141
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 12: with a suburb, right, but you was if you had

1142
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 12: a choice, would you go to that game tonight? Would

1143
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 12: you venture into downtown Cincinnati and go to and where

1144
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 12: would you park?

1145
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 6: Well?

1146
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 12: I don't know that that football. I don't know I

1147
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 12: would probably you.

1148
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: Know who's loving all this? Not loving it? But you

1149
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: know we're gonna make out from all this. Those guys

1150
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: down by pay Corse Stadium that charged like ninety dollars

1151
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: to park your car?

1152
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, well, I mean when we were at when

1153
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 12: we had the tailgate last year at Longworth, they were

1154
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 12: at charge on sixty. Yeah, and I'm sure it's probably

1155
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 12: seven it's probably I don't it's probably not the same

1156
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 12: this year. It's probably seventy dollars.

1157
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1158
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: Well, you could sit in the stands and just you

1159
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: could see your car. You just you know, you watch

1160
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: the game, you keep your eye on your car. Those

1161
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: guys are going to make out like bandits now a

1162
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:14,479
Speaker 1: question for you, Ken Brew.

1163
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 12: Yes, the other night I'm watching w c E T

1164
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 12: forty eight and that show about King's King Records. Yes, excellent.

1165
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 12: You seen that, Yes, I have. It's excellent, unbelievable. I

1166
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 12: watched that. I learned stuff. Never even knew. I knew

1167
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 12: where it was in Cincinnati, but I had no idea

1168
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 12: about what all the stories behind it.

1169
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: Well, you know, missed opportunity on the producers. They should

1170
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: have had more Bootsy Collins in there, you know what.

1171
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: I was waiting for that and it never came, you know.

1172
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: And then and they said that Cincinnati could have been

1173
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: as big as Sun Records in Memphis, absolutely and Motown

1174
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: in Detroit, and it would have worked out. You know

1175
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: that building that that place was in. It just deteriorated

1176
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: over time. I think they were udf ice cream truck.

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01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: We're parking inside there at once. See there right right.

1178
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: You can see it as you're going north on. It's

1179
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: on your left hand side going north on seventy one.

1180
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: But it's sat there then, I don't know, maybe fifteen

1181
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: twenty years ago they put a plaque outside there. This

1182
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: was once King records, and that thing is rusting or whatever,

1183
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: so it I mean, it could have been. It could

1184
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: have been. It's like the airport could have been in Cincinnati. No,

1185
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: it's over in northern Kentucky. I mean all it could

1186
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: have been said. This could have been a major railway

1187
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: stop back in the day, but of course it isn't,

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01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: and it wasn't.

1189
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 12: It could be, it could be.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's why I say, we got to get our

1191
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: arms around our problems and celebrate our victories if we could,

1192
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: you know, I could use that if I ever ran

1193
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: for mayor get our arms around our problems and celebrate

1194
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: our victories. That's what we need to do.

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01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 12: I'd be good on a T shirt. I'd get one.

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01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: I'm a little late for the election cycle this year,

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01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: but if it ever comes up again, I just might,

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01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: I just might do I got a slogan already.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, you got the looks. I mean you know, I

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01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 12: mean you know you can be on TV and talk right.

1201
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 11: Now, I've had this feeling in my gud of like

1202
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 11: I'm holding Ohio in my arms and I'm like, single

1203
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 11: handedly like tak envirus.

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Speaker 7: Stay out.

1205
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: Okay, that got as much chance as me, right, but

1206
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: I know, put you get our arms around our problems

1207
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: and celebrate our victories. It beats what the guy that

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01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: runs this city has on his shirt, which is you

1209
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: can you can find me in Vancouver.

1210
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true.

1211
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 12: As this kid wanted to see the boats or something.

1212
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: So they get us out of the Steoge Report because

1213
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things that are percolating. I'm

1214
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Speaker 1: going to talk about Charlie Kirk and the Kennedy assassination

1215
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,479
Speaker 1: and how they're intertwined. What do you hear this one?

1216
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 12: Okay, ken brew in honor of a beautiful day here

1217
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 12: in the Tri State and go Bengals who day against

1218
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 12: those Steelers tonight.

1219
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Speaker 1: Absolutely we leave you.

1220
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 12: With the immortal words of the Stooge Report.

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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 13: Guys, I've checked the Nielsen rating, and it's about time

1223
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 13: you had me back instead of them fattle out mouths

1224
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 13: you've had on the past couple of weeks. So have

1225
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 13: me back a little more because the people love the Wizard.

1226
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 13: You know what I'm saying, Because I'll see you guys later.

1227
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 12: Wow, you know that wizard. That wizard guy could have

1228
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 12: been as big as uh as Podreeve can't skipper ryle

1229
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 12: uncle Al and the cool goal.

1230
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: And to think we did all of that when recreational

1231
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: marijuana was not legal.

1232
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 12: Great writing though, should have won an award for that.

1233
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: Should have absolutely well show cratered after I left, as

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01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: do most of the relationships I'm involved in. I'll see

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Speaker 1: in an hour. News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 10: Two thousand dollars entered this nationwide keyword on our website.

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Speaker 3: Credit that's credit.

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Speaker 6: Enter it now.

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Speaker 1: Two o nine news Radio seven hundred wl W Welcome back.

1240
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: I am ken Brew. Great to have you with us.

1241
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: Bengals pregame show in about an hour.

1242
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 11: So.

1243
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: A couple of days ago in the White House, there

1244
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: was a large gathering to watch the President of the

1245
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: United States, Donald Trump, had the Presidential Medal of Freedom

1246
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: award to the widow of Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk, of

1247
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,959
Speaker 1: course gunned down in broad daylight about five weeks ago

1248
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: in Utah, and while the investigation continues into that case,

1249
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: they apprehended a suspect in the case about thirty five

1250
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: thirty six hours after the assassination. The actual process of

1251
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: gaining evidence and convicting the alleged suspect remains an ongoing process.

1252
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: There was also, in the course of history a lot

1253
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: of other times were people who have been taken out

1254
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: simply because their views don't align with the view of

1255
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: the guy with the gun, and invariably the guy with

1256
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: the gun always wins. There are parallels that can be

1257
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: drawn to other assassinations, not the least of which the

1258
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: assassination in nineteen hundred and sixty three of President John

1259
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald Kennedy. And for decades my next guest has been

1260
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: doing research into the JFK assassination and also now here recently,

1261
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: Howard parallels in a lot of ways the assassination of

1262
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. He is doctor David Mantik. He is a

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01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: medical physicist and radiation oncologist, and has just released a book.

1264
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: JFKY was killed by consensus, Dealey Plaza was just the

1265
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: final stop. Doctor David Mantick joins us right here and

1266
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: right now in Doctor Mantick, how are you on this

1267
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: glorious Thursday.

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01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 5: Well, we're enjoying the beach in Klestad, California under Cleibler Sky,

1269
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 5: so it's paradise.

1270
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: Well, we have clear blue skies here in Cincinnati and

1271
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: our beach is the Ohio River. So take that as

1272
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: it may be. But it's great to have you. Have

1273
01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 1: you join us. Okay, let's just talk about what you

1274
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: have found as you have dug into the Kennedy assassination,

1275
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: and then maybe we can draw a parallel to what

1276
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: has happened with Charlie Kirk. I was old enough to

1277
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: remember the Kennedy assassination. I was about eleven years old

1278
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: when he was murdered in Dallas. Obviously the country was

1279
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: in great shock. It was not that long after another

1280
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: great president that was revered in this country, Franklin Delano Roosevelt,

1281
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: died by natural causes. But nevertheless there was a traumatic time.

1282
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: And I'm as you've delved into the research, and we

1283
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: know what the Warren Commission has said, and we know

1284
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: what the Church Commission said back in the seventies, and

1285
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: we know all of these new documents that have just

1286
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: been released on the order of President Trump.

1287
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Speaker 6: What have you.

1288
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: Found in your research that runs concurrent to what we

1289
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: know or we think we know about the JFK assassination.

1290
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Speaker 5: Well, the one word that stands out is transparency. We

1291
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 5: never really have a transparency in the assassination of JFK.

1292
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 5: And that's a clear problem here with Charlie Kirk too.

1293
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 5: There's no release of the Autosi report. For example, we're

1294
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 5: x rays taken. The x rays, of course, would be

1295
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,439
Speaker 5: helpful to show exactly where the bullet was and what

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Speaker 5: caliber it was. What about facial recognition of Tyler Robinson

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Speaker 5: the suspect, and facial recognition actually identify him. And what

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Speaker 5: about the ballistics that supposedly might connect the bullets found

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Speaker 5: by the surgeon to the weapons found in the wooded area?

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Speaker 5: Where's that report? Why can't we see that? Is it

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Speaker 5: going to come out in the trial? Is the Putt

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01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 5: trial going to be public? How much transparency will we see?

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Speaker 1: Well, let me just put the pause button here. It's

1304
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: been five weeks. Should we or should they? The FBI

1305
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: should know if bullet match is gun. There's no question

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01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: about that at this point. But why would we expect

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01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: to hear that kind of information in a process that

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01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: is still underway to from the government standpoint, get a

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01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: conviction on this guy might be jumping the gun a

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Speaker 1: little bit.

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Speaker 5: Though I'm not blaming anyone for hiding anything at this point.

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Speaker 5: I'm basically suggesting to the audience that keep these questions

1313
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:29,839
Speaker 5: in mind as we follow this case. These facts should

1314
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 5: eventually emerge, and one would expect eventually that they would

1315
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 5: become public. Perhaps it is too early now, so I'm

1316
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 5: not complaining too much about this flight delay, But in

1317
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 5: the long run, those are the big questions to.

1318
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Speaker 1: The Kennedy assassination. We were told from Jump it was

1319
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald. There was a story that he was

1320
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: in Russia, came back from Russia, that there was Cuban involvement.

1321
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: New Orleans was a big player in the conspiracy. There

1322
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: was a mafia boss from Tampa that might have also

1323
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: come into play. Then we heard, well, the CIA may

1324
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: be involved. And there are a number of stories that

1325
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: were concocted in and around his assassination, some of which

1326
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Speaker 1: are still with what the government is running with. Even

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Speaker 1: here now, sixty years after it happened. I'm I'm wondering

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01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: what did you find in your research or what did

1329
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: you find that might be a red flag as to

1330
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Speaker 1: what we have been told all these many years.

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Speaker 5: Well, if you go to week A TDA today and

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Speaker 5: look at I suppose assassin them the JSK case Lee

1333
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 5: Harvey Oswald, you will see quite clearly that it says

1334
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 5: Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated to Okay playing and bimple dies.

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Speaker 5: That surprise you?

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Speaker 1: No, no, it's quite amazing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, get suck about sixty two years later.

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Speaker 1: Why, I'm sorry, go ahead, I'm sorry to go ahead.

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01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 5: Radiation oncologists. I knew that examination of the X rays

1340
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Speaker 5: at the archives might prove very useful. In particular, on

1341
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 5: the frontal X ray of JFK Skull, there is a

1342
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Speaker 5: six point five milimeter nearly round object that appears to

1343
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:24,440
Speaker 5: be a cross section of a bullet. Unfortunately, the pathologists

1344
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 5: that the autopsy did not report this, and they claimed

1345
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 5: they did not see it. So I was curious about

1346
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,799
Speaker 5: what this really was for. It turns out, after hundreds

1347
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 5: of measurements that I made directly on those existing X

1348
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 5: rays at the Archives, that it's a face. It was

1349
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 5: put on the X ray film within a week or

1350
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 5: sough of the exascinations, and it was not there. The

1351
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 5: pathologists were right. It was added later and I was

1352
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 5: able to show in the dark room exactly how to

1353
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 5: do that. That's a I'll discussed and illustrated in my books.

1354
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 5: So I knew that that was a smoking gun. That

1355
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 5: object kick Quest not never there in the metal that

1356
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 5: SUP partly represented, was never in the archives. It is

1357
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 5: not there today. It's never done there.

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Speaker 1: The autopsy was done, if I'm not mistaken, and please

1359
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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, was done at the Bethesda

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Speaker 1: Naval Hospital in Washington, d C. There was a great

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Speaker 1: amount of consternation as to why, as to not just why,

1362
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: but whether his body should be moved out of Dallas.

1363
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: The Dallas authorities said, it was a murder, it happened

1364
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Speaker 1: to our town, in our town, We're not moving this body.

1365
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Speaker 1: The Secret Service had other ideas. They got the body

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Speaker 1: on Air Force one. They brought it back to d C.

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Speaker 1: It went to the Bethesda Naval Hospital for autopsy, and

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Speaker 1: from what I have read, uh that was a crowded room.

1369
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: It was a doctor that was performing the autopsy. But

1370
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Speaker 1: there were many secret service and other government of some

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01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: say CIA officials that were inside the actual autopsy room

1372
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: running roughshot over the guy that was doing the autopsy.

1373
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Speaker 1: The guy that did the autopsy looked like he was

1374
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: confident but was under tremendous stress by these other people

1375
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 1: who were in the room. Is that true, number one?

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01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: And do you think that has anything to do with

1377
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:19,719
Speaker 1: what you have discovered?

1378
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a fair summary of what happened. He was

1379
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 5: just at the twenty year March for being in the

1380
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 5: Navy until his whole feature was hanging in the balance

1381
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 5: on whether or not he followed military directions that night,

1382
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 5: so he really had no choice. He had to do

1383
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 5: exactly what they told him to do. For example, James Jenkins,

1384
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 5: who was there at the autopsy all night long, and

1385
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 5: his stud who still lives and who I have interacted

1386
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 5: with many times, reports that there was a bullet entry

1387
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 5: rooms in the right temple and when he and the

1388
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 5: assistant the pathologists were going to explore it, they were

1389
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 5: immediately told to stop by doctor he was the chief thethologist.

1390
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 5: After he was called over by one of the high

1391
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 5: ranking military people and he was told just to ignore

1392
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:22,600
Speaker 5: that so they did not have any freedom to exercise

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01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 5: their professional skill for that.

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01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 1: This is sixty years. As I said, down the road

1395
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 1: there was there was, I think a philosophy that is true,

1396
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 1: bearing I don't have any information of this. I think

1397
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: the government was trying to keep the American public from

1398
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 1: turning into some sort of chaotic group that you know,

1399
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,759
Speaker 1: if they had found out the quote unquote real story,

1400
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: we couldn't handle it as an American people. But here

1401
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: we are, sixty years down the road. We've had the

1402
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: Warrant Commission, which you know, truthfully just seemed like an

1403
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 1: endorsement of the lone gunman and basically a rubber stamp

1404
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: of what the government wanted to say. The man that

1405
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: shot Kennedy, the alleged loan assassin, he was murdered two

1406
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: days later. We had the Church Commission. As I recall,

1407
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: back in the seventies, Frank Church, a US congressman, headed

1408
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,799
Speaker 1: a commission that said that there probably was another gunman.

1409
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: And yet that kind of got you buried in more

1410
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: government speak. And then these other documents that came out

1411
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years seemed to have no

1412
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: real relevance to what the whole investigation was about. My

1413
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 1: point being is we've been running with the same story

1414
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: for sixty years. And if the government's intention was to

1415
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,719
Speaker 1: keep this information from us because we would turn into

1416
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: a nation of complete chaos, well, most of us that

1417
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:55,560
Speaker 1: were around in nineteen sixty three, unfortunately, are dead or

1418
01:14:55,680 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 1: are marching towards it. What are they protecting us from now? Why?

1419
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 1: You know, when Trump says I'm going to release the

1420
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: files and we're going to get all these out, well,

1421
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: if the files are the same basically as what we

1422
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: saw or were led to believe sixty years ago, why

1423
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: are they still Why are they still running the same game?

1424
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 5: Well, I think the intelligence community has a lot of

1425
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 5: good reasons to hide this stuff because they're so embarrassed

1426
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 5: by what it would show. And we've just not too

1427
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 5: long ago, had a wonderful relief that demonstrates this.

1428
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 14: When the House Select Committee in the seventies was reinvestigating

1429
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 14: this case, one of the liaisons between the CIA and

1430
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 14: the House was George Gianides. Well, the House committee did

1431
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 14: not know that Jianides was one of the prime conspirators

1432
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 14: working with the anti Castro Cubans in nineteen sixty three,

1433
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 14: and so that document has only recently been released and

1434
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 14: as a result of his he's so.

1435
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 5: Called excellent works Unity was awarded a medal by the

1436
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 5: CIA because he kept this information from the house.

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01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: My gosh, JFK. JFK was killed by consensus. Deally pleasant

1438
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: was just the final stop. It's authored by our guests,

1439
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: doctor David Mantike. He has written other books on this

1440
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: as well. We talked about the Charlie Kirk assassination. How

1441
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 1: our antenna has to be up on exactly who this

1442
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: person was that killed him. Was he motivated or financed

1443
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 1: or in some way, shape or form co op by

1444
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 1: other people. You know, they're but the grace of God

1445
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 1: by about a quarter of an inch, Donald Trump would

1446
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: have been murdered in July of twenty twenty four, and

1447
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 1: yet we know nothing about the guy that shot him.

1448
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 1: They cleaned that place up like it was some maid

1449
01:16:56,240 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 1: service that was on deadline. The body gone, the blood gone,

1450
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: and it wasn't you know, it wasn't a cleaning crew

1451
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 1: that did it. It was the federal government that did it.

1452
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 1: So here we go. It could have been the same

1453
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: damn thing all over again.

1454
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 5: Right. Yes, a lot of secrets are still getting held there.

1455
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: Yes, well, doctor, what is the what is the what

1456
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: are the chances that will ever be told the real story?

1457
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 1: Because there have been books written about the conspiracy of JFK.

1458
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: And you know what the works are, and you know

1459
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: who the authors are. They started coming out within a

1460
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 1: year of his assassination. But what do you think the

1461
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: chances are of the government ever coming clean on this

1462
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 1: and it happening in your lifetime?

1463
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 5: No, they won't. But we can learn this without them.

1464
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 5: That's what my book is about. The now. How the

1465
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 5: list of real names, the real people of the public,

1466
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 5: names that a lot of people were recognized, what Melts

1467
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 5: and Rockefeller, people who knew what was going to happen.

1468
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 5: Twelve will be to serve under MacArthur in the Pacific.

1469
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 5: Hl Hunt, These are all prominent names that you know

1470
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 5: are on the list of people who sponsored the execution

1471
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 5: I call it. And hl Hunt had sixty times as

1472
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 5: much money as the Kennedys, so he could have hundred

1473
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 5: many such executions if he had wanted to.

1474
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:32,440
Speaker 1: Astounding doctor Mantek, interesting things and how these two assassinations

1475
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: paralleled each other, And no, I never bought the Lee

1476
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: Harvey Oswald explanation. He might have been. He might have

1477
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: been at best of Patsy. I never bought that for

1478
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: a second. And we'll never know, unfortunately, unless people like

1479
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: you continue to do work. But you've got to have

1480
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: information to do this kind of work, and it is

1481
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: guarded secrets. And I just don't understand why the government

1482
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 1: just doesn't come clean. You know, there's there's empowerment doctor, Really,

1483
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: when you admit something as opposed to trying to keep

1484
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: covering it up, covering it up, whether it's whether it's

1485
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: a government or in your personal life, there's empowerment in that.

1486
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: And I don't think the people in Washington have figured

1487
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: that part out. Good luck on your future work, Good

1488
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 1: luck with this book, doctor, Thank you so much for

1489
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: your time.

1490
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 5: Oh it's been a pleasure. Thank you.

1491
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1492
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,679
Speaker 1: There he is, doctor David Mantick. And again his book

1493
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 1: is JFK was killed by consensus. Deally Plaza was just

1494
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: the final stop and he names names. It's coming up

1495
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: on two twenty five. It is the average American in

1496
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 1: for the Great American News Radio seven hundred w l W.

1497
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 6: And that's how it should be. And so that'd being said,

1498
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 6: I'll shut up and open it up with questions.

1499
01:19:51,320 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: Hello, bye, I'm broadcasting. Mike tom is back in town.

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01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: That's right, Mike Tomlin's back in town. That is correct.

1501
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: You know what he told us this week? You know

1502
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: what he told us.

1503
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 6: I would imagine there'll be a certain level of excitement.

1504
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 9: Man, those guys having Joe Flacco in a home venue

1505
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 9: on a Thursday night.

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01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 6: It's some primetime ball.

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01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 1: Primetime ball.

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Speaker 9: We covered that as well. Yes, we love going into

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01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 9: hostile environments. We love the visual play.

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01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: We covered that.

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01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 9: I certainly love and respect and appreciate being a component

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01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:28,759
Speaker 9: of primetime football.

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01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: You want to be a component of something. What are

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01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 1: you a component of? Seg What would you say if

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01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 1: someone said to you, I'm a component of and you

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01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 1: would say hard media.

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01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:37,560
Speaker 6: That's what it is.

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01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 1: You're a component of of that. I think so well,

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01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 1: you've been there a long time. They give you a

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01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: lot of swag to wear, you know, they give his shirts.

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01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 1: I've never gotten anything, you know, for my time here,

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01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 1: like a shirt or anything, a bug, nothing. It's like

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01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: to show up and fill in is what it is.

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01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 12: That's right.

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01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 3: Come like it.

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01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: Come down that fire pole from the seventh floor where

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01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 1: I bunk. We bunk up there me and Sterling and

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01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 1: Gary Jeff on the roof. Yeah, we got a little

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01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: we got a little bachelor pad up there.

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01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:07,759
Speaker 2: Okay.

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01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: And then when somebody calls in sick or you know,

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01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: sloan has to have sloan has to rehab a bathroom

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01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: or something, they just bring it up there and I

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01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: come right down the pool. I'll fill in.

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01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 2: Look at how about it?

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01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 12: You know that that's I gotta find that place. I

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01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 12: haven't I come up and visit you.

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01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: Well, I would suggest so you and Gary Jeff and Sterling, right,

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01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 1: come on the thirtieth. The Hawkens Steve Hawkins is up there.

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01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 1: Come on the thirtieth of every month because the place

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01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 1: is cleaned on the twenty ninth. It's once a month. Boy,

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01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 1: we have someone to come in and clean it. It's

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01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: a little crunchy up there right now. But you know,

1544
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 1: come up like that right before Halloween. We'll have you

1545
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 1: up there for.

1546
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 12: Like, like you guys got to give out that candy.

1547
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 12: We're giving out candy. We are you know, we're throwing

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01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,839
Speaker 12: off the roof right, We're giving out mounds.

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01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: We're giving out mounds. Bar Yeah, are good, right, but

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01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 1: come up there because it gets lonely up there. Gary

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01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 1: Jeff likes to read. Yeah yeah, at Hawkins. You know

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01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,719
Speaker 1: he's he's you know, he's back to being coherent.

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01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 12: He's up there. You know, he likes that he's got

1554
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 12: a telescope that he looks at.

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01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: The absolute now Stirling. I mean, he's like got a

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01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: corner of the room where he sits with his legs crossed,

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01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 1: and you know there's like incense, Yeah, incense is going

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01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 1: up and he chances I'm one with the universe. I'm

1559
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 1: one with the universe. But other than that, it's a

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01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 1: very nice place he should come up.

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Speaker 12: So okay, I will ken Brewthie stood reporters the proud

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Speaker 12: service of your local Tame Star Heating and air conditioning dealers.

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Speaker 12: Tames Star quality could feel in Northern Kentucky any weather

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Speaker 12: heating at air at eight five, nine, seven, eight, one,

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Speaker 12: forty eight twenty two spots.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Roxy, Thank yeah Amen.

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Speaker 12: Pittsburgh four and one Bengals look to snap that four

1568
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 12: game losing streak tonight at two and four. They meet

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01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 12: tonight at pay Course Stadium, right there along the Big

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01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 12: River Mountain.

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Speaker 6: I get him the collection of men in the depth

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Speaker 6: of that talentngles up.

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Speaker 12: They brought you by Good Spirits and Party Town with

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Speaker 12: thirteen convenient locations in Northern Kentucky. Coverage begins at low

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Speaker 12: after three oh five.

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01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:09,759
Speaker 1: Now, who's that guy saying Bengals.

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01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 12: That's Alan Cutler. Oh wow, the longtime former UH co

1578
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 12: host of the Bengals radio network.

1579
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: Somebody told me he wrote a book.

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01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah he did.

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01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 1: Did you read it?

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01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 3: No?

1583
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 12: I haven't No, No, he wrote it with the UH.

1584
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 12: You know when he and Hood he chase the football.

1585
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 12: The basketball coach at one day made face. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 12: I think it's something with I don't forget what the name.

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01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: Of the book is.

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01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 6: This is tough, this hurt. Yeah.

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01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,879
Speaker 12: Bengals Bengals Best Bengals Coverage three o'clock Ornell Carriers pregame

1590
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 12: sports talk show Bengals. We got them all, presented by

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01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 12: the Cincinnati, Northern Kentucky Toyota Dealers.

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01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 1: Bengal fans, all the people that have come through this

1593
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: around it get to a show just by name and names,

1594
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: we could dig up some bones.

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01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 12: Live from the Depressing, Live from the Holy Grail tonight

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01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 12: at seven seven outd of WLW. Kickoff is at eight

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01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 12: point fifteen and then Austin Elmore after the game, roll

1598
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 12: into the night with the Tri State Chevy Dealers post

1599
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 12: game show resented by Arnel carriers. And hopefully, I tell you,

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01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 12: I hope he I hope they win.

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01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a long night.

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01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: What happens to him if they lose this or something?

1603
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 11: That?

1604
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 5: Nothing?

1605
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 2: I mean, it's being the same old thing, all right.

1606
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 12: Maybe you take updates on the crime and downtown after

1607
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 12: the game or something. Well, you know, phone in, you know,

1608
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 12: he'll take phone calls on that NLCS of rezumes. Tonight

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01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 12: in Los Angeles, Dodgers up two oh and we're against

1610
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 12: the brew Crew at six. Then the Mariners and the

1611
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 12: Blue Jays go at it in Seattle, game for the

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01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 12: Alcs and eight thirty with the Mariners.

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01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 2: Up to oh or two one.

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01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 1: Excuse me, hey, seg I got a question for you, Yes, sir,

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01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: what were you doing? What were you doing? Forty nine

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01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: years ago today? Forty nine years ago today, Stevie Wonder.

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01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:14,719
Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder released the album Songs in the Key of Life.

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01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 1: It went to number one on the US album charts

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01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: and spawned a number of hits. I wish, Isn't She

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01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: lovely and of course hit it, sir, Duke.

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01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 6: Music days a Robert than itself.

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01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,600
Speaker 2: The language be all unders.

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01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,600
Speaker 1: It's called hitting the post. You know that, though I

1624
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: know I'm Casey case and keep your feet on the

1625
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:38,759
Speaker 1: ground and keep reaching for the stars.

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01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 12: Let's see Houston has been picked to when the.

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Speaker 1: Piece TENO say's I know, I know, not Stevie Wonder,

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01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: but Casey Casey.

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01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, Houston picked the wind is the favorite to

1630
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 12: win the Big twelve men's basketball in the preseason poll.

1631
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 12: B Yu a second, Texas Tech third, Yeah, Wes Miller,

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01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 12: Cincinnati bear Cats eighth.

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01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: They got some dude that's seven. Is he seven foot

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01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: nine or something like that?

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01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, something, But they got their other big man at

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01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 12: six eight. The Hayes is out for a while. Well,

1637
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 12: that lower body injury, but oh they had one of those.

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01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: I had one of those. Said, I got a lower

1639
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 1: body injury many years ago. It's not pleasant.

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01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 12: I think I've had one since I've been born. Well,

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01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 12: it's it's better than a middle body injury. I can

1642
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 12: tell you that I got one of those too. Also,

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01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 12: ken Brew, we say Congress, good luck, good luck to

1644
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 12: Zach Russ, nineteen year old out of Fort Thomas. He

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01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 12: balances his life and is aspiring MMA fighter and a

1646
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:38,600
Speaker 12: certified nursing assistant.

1647
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, he's a nurse and he beats people up.

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01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 12: Well, he's gonna Russ is going to make his professional

1649
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:50,759
Speaker 12: MMA the debut what Saturday at the Mega Corp Pavilion

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01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 12: in Newport.

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01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: No kidding, I mean I did not know this. Yep,

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01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: he's thought you were a kidding there. He's a nurse

1653
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: that he's an MMA fighter.

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01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 12: He was inspired by the a UFC during the pandemic.

1655
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 12: He began this combat sports journey by joining his high

1656
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 12: school wrestling team. Oh okay, that's great. He's going to

1657
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 12: make his debut in Newport on the Saturday. Good luck

1658
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 12: to Fort Thomas. Beautiful, great town North.

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01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 6: I love.

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01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:19,719
Speaker 1: I like Fort Thomas.

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01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 12: Good luck to him.

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01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 11: I like that. Sey.

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01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 2: What else do we have here today? That's all we got,

1664
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 2: ken Brew? I think that's it.

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01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 1: What's going to happen tonight in the stadium. Give me

1666
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 1: a winner, give me a score.

1667
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 12: I think the Bengals win tonight, ken Brew, you think

1668
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 12: they win? Yes, thirty to twenty one.

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01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: So you're looking for a lot of points tonight, Yes,

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01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 1: thirty to twenty one. Tonight they beat the Steelers.

1671
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 12: Or it could be seven to three, could be they lose. Right, Yeah,

1672
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 12: they're doing for a win win Amen. And you know what,

1673
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 12: ken Brew, The key of to me is they got

1674
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 12: to come out fast. They got to play like they

1675
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 12: have in the past couple of games. They played big

1676
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 12: time in the second half. They got to move that

1677
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 12: to the first half. You got what they gotta do.

1678
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 1: You gotta get down there and tell him that because

1679
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they're getting I don't think Zach Taylor

1680
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 1: is getting through.

1681
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 12: Whatever he's telling them is, don't defer the kickoff, take

1682
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 12: the ball.

1683
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: Get the points.

1684
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 12: Spingo.

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01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 1: I want to see what the other team does before

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01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: I get the ball. He just cares what the other

1687
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:17,719
Speaker 1: team does. You got the ball, you do something.

1688
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 12: Well, you saw where money Mack had a sixty seven

1689
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 12: yard or the other day he could kick it from

1690
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 12: he could kick it from from Norwood and make the

1691
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 12: field goal.

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01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 1: He had a sixty seven yard but it didn't didn't

1693
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:31,600
Speaker 1: count because he run around here, say he had a

1694
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 1: sixty sei yet, well it didn't get next and.

1695
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 12: Then at the crossbar and went in instead of if

1696
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 12: he would have done that, he probably would have bounced out.

1697
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 1: And what happened the next time he tried, like like

1698
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 1: two seconds later. The guy always ran it back for

1699
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: a touchdown.

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01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 12: I'll love i'llah the what the Auburn game years ago,

1701
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 12: few years ago with Alabama or something.

1702
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: So I don't care what people do when it doesn't count.

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01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 1: I care about what people do when it counts. Okay,

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01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:56,640
Speaker 1: all right, see what I'm saying here.

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01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 2: I got you.

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01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 1: Well, it makes no difference what you say in the

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01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: practice booth there at wyl W. It's what you do

1708
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 1: when you're sitting in here with us. One point. The

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01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: world is full of what might have been. You want

1710
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: to be the guy who is the guy that makes

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01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 1: it happen.

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01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 3: I'll see.

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01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Another thing for my T shirt too,

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01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 1: When it's going to be a million seller, it could

1715
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:21,560
Speaker 1: be under you know, well, you know what, I'll just

1716
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 1: give it. Who's the guy, the the comedian with the

1717
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 1: sincy shirt store. I'll give it a hemy Jos Josh Need. Yeah,

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01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 1: you give him a slogan and a picture logo and

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01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 1: a picture he'll he'll sell it for like thirty dollars

1720
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 1: and go.

1721
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 12: You know, you get half of it put my little

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01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 12: on there, royalty, just.

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01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 1: My little face on there. Just you know, it's what

1724
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 1: you do now is what matters.

1725
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 3: There.

1726
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 1: You go say, get us out of the Stewoge report

1727
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 1: because apparently we have to be out early. There's something

1728
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 1: called a whoopsie who day. And then after that it's

1729
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: it's the boys from the grail.

1730
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 12: Ken brew it unter of hood, a nation and a victory.

1731
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 12: Hopefully tonight we leave you with the immortal words of

1732
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:08,799
Speaker 12: the stew Dripple. Yeah that's Tom Tinkle.

1733
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 15: My dentist thinks that that really is somebody with bad

1734
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 15: gas what he does on time right either Yeah, there's

1735
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 15: some guy that.

1736
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 16: Can do that onto it might be I don't know. Yeah,

1737
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 16: win the game for since him, naddie, Yeah, play it

1738
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 16: he does. It's an elephant all the things, the elephant

1739
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 16: with bad gas.

1740
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 17: Excuse me, and if you've ever been around an elephant

1741
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:41,799
Speaker 17: with bad gas, you don't want.

1742
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 12: To be or that that again, he's that can smell

1743
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 12: it from the zoo from here it is, I'm just

1744
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 12: telling you our rhino.

1745
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 1: Do they still play this at the games?

1746
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1747
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good, good good.

1748
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 17: Andrew Whitworth at the Ruler of the Jungle tonight Andrew Woodworth,

1749
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:02,799
Speaker 17: you know else's in town fixing Ryan Fitzpatrick fitzi fitzy

1750
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 17: Ryan Fitzpatrick or is it Patrick fitz Ryan?

1751
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 5: No?

1752
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 1: Is Ryan Fitzpatrick. When he's at the game tonight, what if.

1753
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 12: It'll rip his shirt off after the post game show

1754
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 12: on TV.

1755
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know.

1756
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 5: Well.

1757
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 1: I remember when when he was here, it looked like

1758
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: he he actually made games exciting in a season that

1759
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:21,759
Speaker 1: he was not very exciting.

1760
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 6: I mean, that dude put it up.

1761
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 2: Amen to them, you got Nember, what's going to happen next?

1762
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: But he just made it exciting. And they and they

1763
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:31,679
Speaker 1: and you know what, they still haven't replaced Whitworth.

1764
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 12: He may he make me if he didn't like the

1765
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 12: first half, he may suit up the second half.

1766
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 1: We gotta go because we got Whoopsie who Day and

1767
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: then we got we got the boys from the Grails,

1768
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: So we can't. We can't dawdle here, you know what

1769
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 1: I mean? I got you, thank you, yes, Sir can Bruce.

1770
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 1: Later he is seg walking out the door. That'll do

1771
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 1: it for me. I don't know when will he's back,

1772
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:56,799
Speaker 1: but I know I'm not filling in for him tomorrow,

1773
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 1: and the rest of the stuff is mere. Details on

1774
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 1: seven h Great wyl w