1 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: With all of this fraud, has anyone resigned? Has anyone 2 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: been fired? 3 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 2: Well, those are two different things here, right, You know, 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: you have two different issues. You have individuals that should resign, 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: and we've talked about that. Typically when you see this 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: level of fraud being exposed, good leadership does do just that. 7 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: Somebody should take responsibility. And it was so funny. I 8 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: used the example of that heist at the Louver that 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: took place, you know, a couple of months ago, wherein 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 2: the director there was like, I'm going to resign. 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: This happened under my watch. 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: You know, somebody needs to be held accountable and they 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: were kept on the job because they were good at it. 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: But that's typically what you've seen before we get to 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: the fired part of it. 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: Let's just remind everybody it's our three here on. 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: Twin City's News Talk from the six five to one 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: carpet plus Next Day Install Studios. My name is John Justice, 19 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: and in studio with me this morning is representative at 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: Elliott Ingen also running for state Auditors. So in terms 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: of people being fired, I know you had sort of 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: an instinctive reaction to this. 23 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 4: No, not a single one. There was only one that 24 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 4: was quote unquote let go. And it was right before 25 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 4: a fraud committee hearing where they were supposed to testify 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 4: and you know, kind of open up some of the 27 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: information that DHS did not want to come out. So 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 4: the only firing was to allow the fraud to continue happening. 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: Think about that. You got to fire them, Yeah, next November, 30 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 3: So let's go here. 31 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: So yesterday we had on attorney and hubernatorial candidate Chris 32 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: Mattel and he was at a town hall forum with 33 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: other GOP governor candidates. 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: In at that town hall. 35 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: He was critical of both Democrats and Republicans and what 36 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: should be done about fraud. So when I had him 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: on the show yesterday, I asked him, well, what is 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: it that you want to see Republicans do that they're 39 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: not currently doing at the legislature. 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: You know, when I first saw. 41 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: The comment, I was thinking, well, we know the dynamics 42 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: of the legislature right now. You have a divided House, 43 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: you have a slim majority of on the DFL side 44 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: in the Senate, you have Governor Tim Walls in the 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: Governor's office, so you know, there's not a lot that 46 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: can be done. But this was his answer yesterday when 47 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: I asked him, and I wanted to get Elliott's response. 48 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: So here's Chris Maddel from yesterday's show and what I'm 49 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: really talking about. 50 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 5: There are a number of tools that have not been used. 51 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 5: Chief among those tools is the Minnesota government data practice 52 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 5: is that that's Chapter thirteen of Minnesota Statutes. This is 53 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 5: the statue that the media uses. Liz Collin has used 54 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 5: this repeatedly in order to send things into various aspects 55 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 5: departments of the government owner to get documents out. That 56 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 5: is done. It can be done by any citizen. It's 57 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 5: not just legislators, but legislators. When you do that, what 58 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 5: normally happens, especially at the Walls administration, they stonewall. 59 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: They just say we're not you know, they drag their feet. 60 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 5: They're not going to do any There is a specific 61 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 5: statute in there, it's thirteen point eight that permits you 62 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 5: to sue the government on an action for damages and junction. 63 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 1: You can get attorney's fees. 64 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 5: You can get costs, you can get skilful penalties. 65 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: Just in twenty twenty. 66 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 5: Five, there was a gentleman in Saint Paul that sued 67 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 5: the Saint Paul City government got thirty thousand dollars from 68 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 5: fourteen separate violations of the Data Practices Act. He was 69 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 5: just trying to get documents posed BikeE trail planning process 70 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 5: on Summit Avenue. 71 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: Let me pause here real quick, because he goes on 72 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: for a little bit further so on what he is 73 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: referring to here. What are your thoughts on what Attorney 74 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: Chris Maddel had to say, He's writing a lot of aspects. 75 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 4: What I'm sick and tired of is Republicans only responding 76 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 4: to fraud that's unearthed by somebody else, whether it's lu Ugus, 77 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 4: whether it's some media outlet. When they finally want to 78 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: come around and say that fraud is a real thing 79 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 4: here in the state, they're waiting and kind of sitting 80 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: on their hands and responding retroactively rather than being pro 81 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: active in finding that fraud and then alerting the public 82 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: and exposing just how deep the corruption is. And I 83 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 4: actually took a look last night after you sent me 84 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: that that clip, and we have seventeen data requests in 85 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 4: right now PHS. So this is something that we've been 86 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 4: doing extensively, and while they're supposed to get those requests 87 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: that data pack it back to us within ten to 88 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 4: fourteen days. The one that unearthed the optimum the optim 89 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 4: issue took forty days. 90 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: So they do slow roll. They do cover up a 91 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 3: lot of their tracks. 92 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 4: And actually we've heard from DHS anonymous whistleblowers that will 93 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 4: redact pieces of the of the request that are the 94 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: most disparaging or damaging. 95 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: This is an actual cover us. So is there a 96 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 3: way to hold to hold. 97 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 2: The administration under walls accountable for not adhering to the 98 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: time to the timeline. 99 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: I really don't think so, because who's going to be 100 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: taking up that case. It's going to be Keith ellis right, 101 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: So we got to win elections. There's no legislative easy 102 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 4: button to fixing this broken system. Minnesota voters are the 103 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 4: only way that we're going to turn this thing around. 104 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: So he's not wrong in his assessment. 105 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: But you're also saying that that the GOP has been 106 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: utilizing what he's referring to. 107 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 3: Well, I would say some people do. 108 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 4: Okay, there are legislators up there who I believe have 109 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 4: been in too long and when they're not in the majority, 110 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 4: they simply think that the job is sitting down and 111 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 4: pressing the no button and that's it, you know, not 112 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 4: even saying anything in response to the nonsense that Democrats 113 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 4: will will continually pass. And I think that we should 114 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 4: be articulating a vision for what the state could be. 115 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: And the only way you can do that is if 116 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: you wake up every single day looking to unearth a 117 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 4: new a new fraud scandal that the Democrats have perpetuated, 118 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 4: or you put forth legislation that prevents it in the 119 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 4: first place. We've been doing both, and I think for 120 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: that we've been rewarded and people recognize that we're working 121 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 4: hard for him. But the Republican Party as a whole 122 00:05:59,200 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 4: needs to do a better job. 123 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 3: Let to go to this talkback. 124 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 6: Okay, this is for Elliott Engan, please, and I'm not 125 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 6: being flippaned, but at this point I have to wonder 126 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 6: is there anybody in Minnesota government that we can deem trustworthy? 127 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 6: And I'm really serious about that. This seems too involved 128 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 6: for just Keith Ellison and Tim Walls to be involved. 129 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 6: Who can we trust anymore? 130 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 4: Well, I'm biased, but hopefully me there are people up 131 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 4: there that are there for the right reasons, and typically 132 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: they don't stick around the longest they get in and 133 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 4: they get out because they recognize that it is a 134 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 4: broken system. It's egotistical, you know, nonsense, people who aren't 135 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 4: actually there to solve problems, but just make a name 136 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 4: for themselves and you know, utilize their positions to get wealthy. Simultaneously, 137 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 4: what I think we could inspire in twenty twenty six 138 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: is a reform Republican win people who are looking to 139 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 4: go in there and disrupt the system. And I think 140 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: Chris Mattel's quotes actually spoke to that a little bit. 141 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,119 Speaker 4: We need to look to do things different. We can't 142 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 4: just you know, say the same platitudes from the Reagan 143 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 4: era and hope that that wins out the day. We 144 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: need to go out and search that fraud right now, 145 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 4: and that's what we're doing in the state auditors race. 146 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: Here here's more of what Mattal had to say regarding 147 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: the answer of what the GOP could be doing. 148 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 5: The Republicans have not used that one bit in order 149 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 5: to put Walls's feet to the fire with respect the fraud. 150 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: First off, that's that's kind of not true, though I 151 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: just used it right right, Yeah, So again to the 152 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: to the point it has been utilized, it can be 153 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: utilized more. But you guys have used the very thing 154 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: that he was mentioning and what he's criticizing Republicans for. 155 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: So here's more of what Mattel had to say yesterday. 156 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 5: They just keep throwing in these requests and then they 157 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 5: just let one wall stonewall them, and then they write 158 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 5: letters people to the federal government or or whomever and 159 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 5: say please investigate us. I think it's their obligation to 160 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 5: do that themselves. That's number one. Number two, the committees 161 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 5: have subpoena power. Now, that subpoena power requires the two 162 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 5: thirds majority, so the Democrats is evenly divided, it's. 163 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: Likely to be voted down. 164 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 5: My idea, though, why not draft a subpoena that requests 165 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 5: one category of a fraud related issue by one department, 166 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 5: but that in front of the committee every day and 167 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 5: let the Democrats vote that down. 168 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: Is that tangible anyway in your opinion? 169 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: So? 170 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: Yes and no. 171 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 4: The reason why we are putting in so many data 172 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: requests right now with DHS we want to see everything 173 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 4: that they're not that they're not being transparent about, because 174 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 4: that in and of itself is a story and we 175 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: can alert Minesultan's as to how they're muddying the waters 176 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 4: to the fraud that they're overseeing. But when it comes 177 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 4: to subpoenas, yeah, we can get Democrats on a bad vote. 178 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 4: We do that all the time, but it doesn't amount 179 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 4: to much when the media is working alongside them and 180 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 4: doesn't report it. We need to now be our own 181 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 4: independent media sources. I mean, I put out a video 182 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: just last night about the Optum scandal that we honor 183 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 4: via that data request, and I think right now it's 184 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 4: sitting at over one hundred and fifty thousand views. So 185 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 4: we need to actually tell Minnesultans what's going on. We 186 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 4: can't just rely on other sources to do it, and 187 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: we have to be the ones to break the news, 188 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 4: not just respond to it. 189 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: Good morning, guys. 190 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 7: Well, I really appreciate Elliott Engin and what he's trying 191 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 7: to do in his observations. 192 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: I am very. 193 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 7: Worried indicated that many Minnesoltan I'll waking up to see 194 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 7: what's going on. 195 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: I'm afraid there are way too. 196 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 5: Many Minnesultans that will well for. 197 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 8: Anyone with a D behind the name, follow them over 198 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 8: a cliff and it doesn't really matter. 199 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: Let me stop here real quick, because this is an 200 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: easy answer. I'm not worried about those individuals. That's not 201 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: who I care about. I don't personally want to see 202 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of outreach to Democrats right now. We 203 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 2: need to focus on Republicans and getting as many Republicans 204 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: out to vote as possible on election day. There is 205 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: no point debating with Democrats right now. There's no point 206 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: in trying to convince Democrats to vote a different way. 207 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: When you look at the percentages of the individuals that 208 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 2: go and vote in every single election, there are votes 209 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: being left on the table for Republicans. 210 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: That's true, that's where the focus is. 211 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: I will say this though, simultaneously, while forty percent of 212 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: the electorate, which are the hardcore Democrats who you are 213 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 4: never going to change, You're never going to turn them over, 214 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 4: they're going to hate us, throw that to the wayside. 215 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 4: There are a bunch of bleeding heart liberal, compassionate voters 216 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 4: who think that these these dollars should probably go to 217 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,359 Speaker 4: the vulnerable Minnesotans who actually need them, rather than fraudsters. 218 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 4: And they've been reaching out to us, and they're telling 219 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 4: me that they're going to be voting for a Republican 220 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 4: state auditor candidate in myself why because they're sick of 221 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: this too. 222 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 3: But we have to we have to talk about it. 223 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 4: We have to say, Look, if you're an autism center, 224 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 4: if you are needing substance abuse disorder treatments, if you 225 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 4: are needing housing stabilization services, you're going without them right 226 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: now because Democrats are so crappy at governing, and when 227 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 4: we go in there, we're going to make sure that 228 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 4: these these programs are tightened up and the money actually 229 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 4: goes to the people it needs. 230 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: To go to. 231 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: Representative Elliott Ingen, thank you for the time this morning, 232 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. 233 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: Man, It's going to be a while. Twenty twenty six, 234 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 3: Oh it sure is it? Sure is man. 235 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: I was telling Melinda last night that this year has 236 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: been more draining in terms of like I've been looking 237 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: forward to vacation more so than I was even after 238 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: the election year that we had. This year has been 239 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: just a lot just there's been a lot more going on, yeah, 240 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: ever since Trump took office and under that. 241 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: So thank you for what you do. 242 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: And thanks for coming in this morning again running for 243 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: a state auditor. And next time most people will probably 244 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,599 Speaker 2: be in the new year. So Merry Christmas and a 245 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 2: happy New Year you man and your family. Buddy, it 246 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: was great equation. 247 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: Thank you. 248 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: Coming up, we'll get to more of your comments from 249 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. So molly Man says he's an American 250 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: citizen after he speaks out after ICE detainment. Again, this 251 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: is the Democrats trying to reframe this argument that suddenly 252 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: now having a federal law enforcement agency arrest or detain 253 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 2: an American citizen is some in some ways, some sort 254 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 2: of issue we've never contended with. We'll get to the 255 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 2: details coming up, and your talk back of the day 256 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: brought to you by Many Leaf just after a thirty 257 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: here on Twin Cities News Talk AM eleven thirty and 258 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: one oh three five FM from the six y five 259 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: to one conference plus home of the next day install 260 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: studios on Twin Cities News Talk AM eleven thirty FM. 261 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: One oh three point five and on the free iHeartRadio app. 262 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 9: Good morning, John, Just kind of playing off of one 263 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 9: of the comments that you made about we need to 264 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 9: be speaking to Republicans and you know, likely Republican voters. 265 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: What do you think is the proper way to a. 266 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 9: Turnout the entire Republican voting base and then b activate 267 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 9: the grass roots that are leaning that direction. 268 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: Thanks and have a good date. 269 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: Well, the model would be, and there's no quick answer 270 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: to this, I'll just give you the short, radio palatable version, 271 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: in my opinion, for what it's worth, the model would 272 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: be last year's election, what the Trump team did nationally 273 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: in turning out the vote, in the efforts to get 274 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: individuals involved at the local level, to bring in voters 275 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 2: to the polling booth on election day. Small things for example, 276 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: like not being able to go and get yard signs 277 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: unless you bring in ten different individuals or names of 278 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: people that could go and possibly possibly vote. What people 279 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: have been reaching out to me over and we've mentioned 280 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: a few times on the show, there is a Trump 281 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 2: aligned organization out of Colorado that has been sending out 282 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: these mailers across the country, and in these mailers it 283 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: talks about getting on the permanent absentee ballot list. 284 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: A lot of people have. 285 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: Concerns thinking this was Democrat efforts because typically you see 286 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: the Democrats going and using this as a means to 287 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: get people to go and vote. This isn't This is 288 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: Republicans trying to use Democrat tactics. 289 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: To increase the vote. 290 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: If you don't want to be on the permanent absentee 291 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: ballot list, you don't have to. Democrats have already used 292 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: this to their advantage, so the Republicans now are essentially 293 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: playing catch up and trying to get as many Republican 294 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: voters on the permanent absentee ballot list, and those would 295 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: typically be individuals that wouldn't be as likely inclined to 296 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: go vote on election day. It all happens at the 297 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: grassroots level. 298 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: I'm just done with. 299 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: We had a talk back that came in saying you 300 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: still got to reach independence, and sure, yes you have 301 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: to reach independence, but the number of independence available in 302 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: terms of the percentage, right, it's there, but it's not 303 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: that signific. But yes, you're right, but you can't go 304 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: compromising your views and values. There is no debate right 305 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: now with Democrats. 306 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: There just isn't. So trying to spend any. 307 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: Time being a moderate relating to Democrat issues or issues 308 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: that may lean there to bring people in. 309 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: It's just not going to happen. 310 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: So there's no simple answer to this, but that's where 311 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: the focus needs to be in my opinion. Further exposure 312 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: of what's taking place with the fraud. Being able to 313 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: articulate how complicated the issue is not beating up our 314 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: own over this. I understand the frustration, and it's valid 315 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: in a lot of cases. It's valid that there is 316 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: more that could There's always more that can be done 317 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: in politics, there's always more that could be done. 318 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: You need to do as much as you can. 319 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: But like we talked about with Representative Elliott Engen a 320 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: moment ago, we had those comments from Attorney Chris Maddele 321 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: regarding what he wants to see Republicans doing, And as 322 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: Engen pointed out, Republicans are doing that very thing that 323 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: Mattal was saying, and they are getting stone walled. But unfortunately, 324 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: because of the political dynamics here in Minnesota, where Democrats 325 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: still have a majority of power and Walls is still 326 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: sitting in the governor's office, they can stone wall and 327 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: there's no accountability for that. So ultimately you're back to 328 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: making sure you get as many bodies out to go 329 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: and vote as possible. That's where the change has to 330 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: take place. Yes, continue to hold Republicans accountable, to make 331 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: sure that they're using every tool available to them in 332 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: their toolbox to go and deal with this, but don't 333 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: throw the baby out with the bathwater in all of this, 334 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: and make sure you're supporting candidates that actually have a 335 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: chance to win. There's a lot of individuals out there 336 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: that may speak a really, really good game, but unfortunately 337 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: they've burned so many bridges with so many individuals and 338 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: turn so many people off. 339 00:16:58,600 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: There never going to get elected. 340 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: And while they may be right in the way that 341 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: they want to go and tackle things, but they're not 342 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: electable candidates. 343 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: I know none of this is easy. 344 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 2: I know everybody would like a surefire answer to all 345 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 2: of it, but it's just it's not in the cards. 346 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: All of it requires work, all of it requires effort, 347 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: and the most. 348 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 3: Difficult part, in my opinion, is not. 349 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: Going and tearing everybody down in the process of trying 350 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 2: to do what's right on our own side. 351 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 3: And still I see it this morning. It's a bummer. 352 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: If you don't like a particular candidate, great, but don't 353 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: tear them to shreds. They're still better than the alternatives 354 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: of what we've been dealing with, and we're never going 355 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: to be able to make inroads on any of these 356 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: issues relating to voter. 357 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 3: Integrity, for example. 358 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: Or getting something really comprehensively done about fraud and holding 359 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: people accountable unless you get Republicans into office where they 360 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: have the power to actually go and do things, and 361 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 2: they can't be stone Wall, they can't be stopped. All right, 362 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: we'll get to your talk back of the day coming 363 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: up in just a moment. We'll turn our attention back 364 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: over to immigration. We have a follow up to the 365 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 2: activist yesterday, Sue Tincher. 366 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: Who was detained. 367 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: We have a brand new individual now who is playing 368 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 2: the pat actor role. This would be the performative activist Theatrics. 369 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 2: A guy that was detained by Ice is now making 370 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: the rounds and public appearances as if this issue of 371 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: a citizen being detained to something that has suddenly never 372 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: happened before in the history of law enforcement. I'll give 373 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: you the details next. Got a lot of audio to 374 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: share coming up on Twinsday's news Talk AM eleven thirty 375 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: and one h three five FM. 376 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere. You know what happened last night? 377 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 2: I forgot to take my mini leaf night gummy. 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Thank you, Joe. 393 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 3: Brought to you by Mini Leaf and mini leaf dot com. 394 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: So yesterday we presented for you the story of the 395 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: performative activist theater actor Sue Tincher. 396 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: Here's a portion of her story from Carol Levin. 397 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 11: Meanwhile, in the last few hours, community members on minneapolis 398 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 11: Is North Side gathering rallying around an ICE observer who 399 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 11: was detained during a raid. Susan Tinsher said she arrived 400 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 11: at the raid at Oliver in twenty first Avenues around 401 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 11: six this morning and was asked by an agent who 402 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 11: she was, and the agent told her to back up. 403 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 11: She says she refused, and. 404 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 12: I stood my ground. I just stood there on the sidewalk, 405 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 12: and other officers came up. Yeah, and I was thrown 406 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 12: to the ground, tightly handcuffed, put in an unmarked truck, 407 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 12: and driven to the Whipple building, where I was put 408 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 12: in leg shackles and held in a cell for four hours. 409 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: Now that's what happens when you obstruct law enforcement. 410 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: What she doing is illegal. 411 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 2: You should really go and get upset at the individuals 412 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: around you who aren't bothering to help you. 413 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 3: Instead just filming you getting hauled off, especially if this 414 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 3: is illegal. 415 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 2: We have a new actor on the scene, however, only 416 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: man says he's an American citizen speaking out after ice detainment, 417 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: conveniently choosing as we go back and forth in this story, 418 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 2: when to refer to themselves as an American and when 419 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: to refer to themselves as a Somali, based off of 420 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: which is more politically advantageous for Democrats at the time. Now, 421 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: before I share with you the words of Mubsher who 422 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: said he showed his identification multiple times he was obstructing 423 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 2: law enforcement, let me give you a quick update on Sue, 424 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 2: because you see Sue was eventually released. Right She showed 425 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 2: up after getting an alert on her phone, according to 426 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 2: comments that she had with local media, rushed to the 427 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: scene to defend her neighbors being hauled away by Immigrations 428 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: and Customs enforcement. Who was Immigrations and Customs enforcement hauling away? 429 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: We go to Fox. 430 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 8: News, Hey, he assaulted the police officer, even attempted to 431 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 8: choke him and steal his weapon. 432 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 3: Now he was picked up. 433 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 8: He was arrested, but then released before Ice could file 434 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 8: a detainer. So yesterday they had to put together a 435 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 8: big special response team and going to the north side 436 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 8: of Minneapolis to get him. 437 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 13: If there was no sanctuary policies in city like Minneapolis 438 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 13: and Saint Paul, we'd be able to get him. 439 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: At the jail. 440 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 13: But because they have those policies, we have to go 441 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 13: look for him at their house. And we go to 442 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 13: their house, We're going to arrest anybody. 443 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 3: That's illegal in that house, and that's what they did. 444 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 8: Two more guys I says or in the US illegally 445 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 8: were found in that house. 446 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 3: They were swept up in the raid. 447 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 8: People in the neighborhood started waking up and blowing whistles. 448 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 8: That drew a small crowd of protesters, and one of 449 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 8: the protesters put her hands on the ICE agent a 450 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 8: little bit of a shove, if you will, trying to 451 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 8: get through the perimeter. That was enough for her to 452 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 8: be zip tied and taken into federal custody, all of it, 453 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 8: instead of handing this individual over in the jail. 454 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: Boy, you know, that certainly seems to be a much 455 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: different story than the one that Sue told originally when 456 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: she was just standing there as if she was minding 457 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 2: her her own business when. 458 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 3: She got tackled. 459 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: And interesting too from Fox News in that reporting how 460 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: they said that because of the sanctuary policies, there's another 461 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: way we can go and get these individuals. But unfortunately 462 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: Democrats Governor Tim Walls, Minneapolis Man Baby may Or Mom Jeans, 463 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 2: Jacob Frye. You have the police chief Brian O'Hara, and 464 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: they had these policies in place, which makes it so 465 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: ICE has to go to these individuals' homes to go 466 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 2: and deal with this. So yesterday the police chief was 467 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: expressing his frustration as ICE agents say they detained to 468 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: as he says that ICE agents detained a US citizen. 469 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: The chief calls their tactics questionable, doing that thing with 470 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: my fingers and unplanned, as he says, they're putting everyone 471 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 2: at safety, everyone's safety at risk. So this individual, this 472 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: move moobushar mub Bushier. There's video evidence of what transpired here. 473 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: He got in the way of ice officials, so Ice 474 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: officials hauled him off. 475 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: He was detained, continued to resist a rest. You can 476 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 3: watch the videos online. 477 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: I posted him on x And yet now he's become 478 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 2: another actor, performative activist, theater out there talking about his 479 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: arrowing experience of being taken into Ice detention. 480 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 14: Posing an outside for mere seconds before, I seen a 481 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 14: mess person running at me full speed. He tackled me. 482 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 14: I told him I'm a US citizen. He didn't seem 483 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 14: to care. He dugged me outside. 484 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 3: By the way really quick. 485 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: Why would he care if you're obstructing law enforcement and 486 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: law enforcement has to take action against you. I love 487 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: this new alternate reality that Democrats are now creating, wherein 488 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: you just need to say that you're an American citizen 489 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: and they can't do anything to you. 490 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 3: In what world is that supposed to happen? 491 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 14: Huto snow while I was handcuffed, restrained, helpless, and he 492 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 14: pushed me to it round and he put me in 493 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 14: a chokehold and he said, when you're taking you into 494 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 14: Bishop Henry Allowing. I did my fingerprints and they finally 495 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 14: let me go. They said, no, you have to walk 496 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 14: in the snow. Eventually my parents team and picked me up. 497 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: Oh, he had to walk, and he had to walk 498 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 3: in the snow. 499 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 2: Can you imagine if our telling Linda that Welanda wanted 500 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: me to go and shovel the driving, but honey, I 501 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 2: have to go walk in the snow, she'd be like, yeah. 502 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: And residents deserve better from the federal government. 503 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 13: Random efforts in which individuals who are are being stopped 504 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 13: because they appear to be Latino or because they appear 505 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 13: to be Somali is wrong. 506 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 3: That's not what's happening. 507 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 14: What happened to me was unjust on called for. 508 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: We're demanding accountability, immediate changes on how these operations are 509 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 2: being carried out. They have no argument on their side. 510 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: That's why they make up this garbage because they have 511 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 2: no defense for what is taking place. Four hundred arrests 512 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: have been made from the immigrations and customs enforcement uptick 513 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 2: here in Minnesota. All of those individuals we're here illegally 514 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: and can committed other crimes. Some of them were sex 515 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: offenders to minors. The Augsburg University student was a sex offender. 516 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 2: You've got domestic abuse, You've got drug trafficking. The list 517 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 2: goes on and on and on. And you have Governor 518 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 2: Tim Walls out there posting that all Trump wants is 519 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: a show. Sit on that for a second. Not like 520 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: we need to talk any worse about Walls. I think 521 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: he's already shown to be just to complete and utter disaster, 522 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 2: a blank show on. So it's really rich of him 523 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: calling Trump just wanting to do a show. But think 524 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: about what he's pushing back against. He's pushing back against 525 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: individuals who are criminals, not just illegally like in any 526 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: other circumstance. The rhymes that these individuals have committed. If 527 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: they were arrested by regular law enforcement, nobody would bad 528 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: an eye. They'd be like, good, lock that person up. 529 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: But because they're creating this false universe, this alternate universe 530 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 2: regarding immigration, they just completely ignore the crimes that these 531 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: individuals have committed for the sake of political expediency in 532 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: crafting these narratives, ridiculous narratives. 533 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 3: Like I mentioned, I said that I was a citizen. 534 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: He just came. 535 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 14: You just came after mosing an outside of mis stands before. 536 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 14: I've seen a mess person running at me full speed. 537 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 14: He tackled me. I told him I'm a US citizen. 538 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 14: He didn't seem to care. 539 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 3: And that's not what happened. If you go and watch 540 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 3: the video, not even close. Hey John Greg here, good 541 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 3: morning guys, great show. 542 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 7: If I'm speeding in a cop behind me, Do I 543 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 7: get to just keep going because I'm an American citizen 544 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 7: and not stop? 545 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: Is that how this works? 546 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 7: If I rob a store, I'm a cop asked me 547 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 7: to stop and tries to arrest me, I just get 548 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 7: to walk away because I'm an American citizen, even though 549 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 7: I'm breaking the law. 550 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 3: Exactly. 551 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 2: It doesn't make any rational sense, you know. I grabbed 552 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 2: a couple of posts online. There was one done by 553 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 2: this David Sawyer that I really really appreciated. I wanted 554 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: to share it, share it with you, you know. First off, though, again, 555 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: this is an ANTIIS individual from Minneapolis briefly detained by 556 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 2: federal immigration agents after refusing to comply with a request 557 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: to identify him. 558 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: He shouldn't have interfered. 559 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: He should have been respectful, he should have cooperated and 560 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: provided ID. And the person posting on x says it 561 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: in the video tells you all you need to know. 562 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: David Sawyer wrote this though I thought it was really interesting. 563 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: He says he's trying to understand the post, and it 564 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: was relating to the clip that I just shared of 565 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: this move Bashir guy. Trying to understand the post feels 566 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: like trying to read a map where north it changes 567 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: directions every five seconds. One moment he's a US citizen, 568 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: the next to uses Somali, And somehow we're expected to 569 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: pretend that those contradictions don't matter because the outrage demand's obedience. 570 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: It's the same dance, over and over and over again. 571 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: When it's useful, they say Americans. When it's useful, they 572 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: say they are Somali. It's the same thing that I 573 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: was identifying earlier. He just articulated it really well online. 574 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: When the President of Somalia visits, ilhan Omar refers to 575 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: him as our president. When convenient, the homeland is Somalia. 576 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: When convenient, the victimhood is American. The rest of us 577 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: are supposed to pretend the contradiction doesn't raise legitimate questions. 578 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: You lean on that contradiction because without the entire emotional 579 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: script you are trying to sell collapses. You cannot decide 580 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: whether he is a US citizen or Somali in the 581 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: political sense, you want your audience to hear, so you 582 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: bounce between the two depending on which version makes the 583 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: story sound more dramatic. It's not clarity, it's narrative engineering. 584 00:29:54,600 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: Before we even get to this spot. However, before we 585 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: even get to these incredibly relevant and cojed points, the 586 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: person in question obstructed the law. End the story, we 587 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: would not have any of the controversial issues that we're 588 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: dealing with right now relating to ICE conducting their lawful 589 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: business if it wasn't for what these activists are doing, 590 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: if it wasn't for Minneapolis Man Baby Me or Mom Jean's, 591 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 2: Jacob Fry, Governor Tim Walls, Keith Ellison, Minneapolis Police Chief 592 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: Brian O'Hara, and any other Democrat that's spoken up. The 593 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: DFL was trying all day yesterday online to make hay 594 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: out of this particular situation. If you didn't have these 595 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 2: activists showing up, no one would even know. Arrests and 596 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: warrants get issued and are successfully executed every single day. 597 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: Stephen Miller, talking to Fox News brought up some rap 598 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: What are interesting data points that I wanted to share 599 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 2: with you on the show this morning before you wrap 600 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: things up. 601 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 10: Not only is the first generation unsuccessful against Somalia as 602 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 10: a clear example here, not only is the first generation unsuccessful, 603 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,239 Speaker 10: but you see persistent issues in every subsequent generation. So 604 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 10: you see consistent high rates of welfare use, consistent high 605 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 10: rates of criminal activity, consistent failures to assimilate. But this 606 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 10: shouldn't be a surprise, will It's just common sense. If 607 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 10: Somaldians cannot make Somalia successful, why would we think that 608 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 10: the track will be any different in the United States? 609 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 3: Go third world country by third world country. 610 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 10: That was saying, look, there are people all over the 611 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 10: world that are great people, but you look at the society. 612 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 10: If Libya keeps failing, if the Central African Republic keeps failing, 613 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 10: if Somalia keeps failing, right, if these societies all over 614 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 10: the world continue to fail, you have to ask yourself 615 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 10: if you bring those societies into our I then give 616 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 10: them unlimited free welfare. What do we think is gonna happen? 617 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 10: You're gonna replicate the conditions that they left over and 618 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 10: over and over again. 619 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 3: Let me stop here really quick. If people don't like 620 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 3: the facts of. 621 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 2: This, if those in the left don't like the facts 622 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: of what is being detailed here, then stop trying to 623 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: use the facts to your own political gain. For example, 624 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 2: under the clip that I played of the move bus 625 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: year post, this was done by the DFL. 626 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 3: The comment was, is a. 627 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: US citizen lived in Minneapolis's whole life? He was tackled 628 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: handcuff taking into federal custody in his neighborhood. The reason 629 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: he's Somali, That wasn't the reason. That's a lie. He 630 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: obstructed law enforcement. Thank you so much for hanging out 631 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 2: on the show this morning tomorrow. It's a freedom of Friday. 632 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: You know what that means. That's right, You're on and 633 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: off topic comments all morning long. 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