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Speaker 1: And welcome to the Nightcap.

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Speaker 2: The new fall season continues night number two getting underway.

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Speaker 2: I'm Gary Jeff Walker, and you're tuned into seven hundred

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Speaker 2: WLW and tonight, as we begin, I'm reflecting on what

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Speaker 2: happened two years ago in the country of Israel. Can

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Speaker 2: you imagine your son, or your daughter, or your grandchildren

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Speaker 2: at a music festival, now pick one Bonnaroo, enjoying a

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Speaker 2: beautiful day, enjoying the music that they like to listen to,

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Speaker 2: enjoying each other's company, and taking a break from the

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Speaker 2: rest of this crazy, chaotic world.

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Speaker 1: When all of a sudden, out of.

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Speaker 2: Nowhere, a band of maraudering mongrels disguised as human beings attack,

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Speaker 2: A bloodthirsty attack, a murderous attack.

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Speaker 1: Have you forgotten?

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Speaker 2: Is it been too long to really keep that in

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Speaker 2: the front of your mind? These people, and it's a

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Speaker 2: stretch to call them human beings. The Hamas terrorists did

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Speaker 2: this in Israel two years ago today at a music festival,

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Speaker 2: and along the way they took hostages. The ones that

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Speaker 2: they didn't kill, some two hundred and fifty people were

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Speaker 2: taken captive and taken into enemy territory i e.

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Speaker 1: The Gaza Strip, where to this.

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Speaker 2: Moment there were still at least twenty who were alive

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Speaker 2: who were still being held by these mongrels disguised as

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Speaker 2: human beings known as Hamas terrorists.

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Speaker 1: It's been two years.

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Speaker 2: If it had been two days, it would have been

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Speaker 2: too long that they've been allowed to carry on this

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Speaker 2: murderous mayhem.

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Speaker 1: It is time for that to end.

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Speaker 2: It is time for the hostages to be returned, both

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Speaker 2: the living and the dead, and it is time for

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Speaker 2: people of common human decency to say, you know what,

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Speaker 2: this wasn't Israel's fault, and whatever Israel needs to do

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Speaker 2: now to eradicate Hamas from the face of the earth

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Speaker 2: needs to be done. Will they lay down their weapons?

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Speaker 2: Will they return the hostages? Who knows their cowards disguised

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Speaker 2: as freedom fighters has nothing to do with the Palestinian people,

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Speaker 2: whatever you want to call them, they call themselves that

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Speaker 2: we will for the sake of again civility two years

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Speaker 2: ago today and it's still going on. It looks like

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Speaker 2: there's hope of an end in sight, and hopefully it's

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Speaker 2: a peaceful one. But if Israel needs to do something

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Speaker 2: that's not peaceful to finally complete this job, and get

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Speaker 2: rid of this scourge not only on the Middle East

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Speaker 2: but the world hamas so be it food for thought,

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Speaker 2: don't eat too much.

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Speaker 1: Got a good show tonight.

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Speaker 2: We'll be talking with Bob Rob here in a minute

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Speaker 2: from the East Fork region of the Kowanas Club about

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Speaker 2: the Fields of Honor that they are undertaking again in

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Speaker 2: November and how you can participate. Dave Hadner Morrow of

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Speaker 2: the John Birch Society, Judd Dunning will be here, Doctor

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Speaker 2: Carol Lieberman, America's psychiatrist, Ryan Wood, Lady Maga USA, Michael

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Speaker 2: Letts from Invest USA, and the fur Ball All before

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Speaker 2: midnight sit Back Liz gets started, we'll talk to Bob

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Speaker 2: Rob coming up next on the nightcap on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned at the top of the show, Bob

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Speaker 2: Rob is joining us. He is with the East Fork

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Speaker 2: East Fork region of the Kawanas Club, which I'm not

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Speaker 2: exactly sure where that is, and I'm sure he'll instruct

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Speaker 2: me in just a moment as we get started, but

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Speaker 2: we're talking about the Fields of Honor and again this year,

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Speaker 2: this effort puts American flags up to honor our veterans

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Speaker 2: and our fallen and I think it's a fantastic thing

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Speaker 2: and they could use your help. So out any more

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Speaker 2: on my part, let's talk to the man himself, Bob, Rob,

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Bob.

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I am just fine. How are you today?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 4: Good?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 2: So tell me the Kawanas Club of the East Fork Region.

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Speaker 2: Where exactly is that?

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Speaker 4: Well, the club serves a broad area of eastern Claremont County,

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Speaker 4: primarily surrounding the East Fork State Park. Cool and when

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Speaker 4: the club was formed six years ago, there was a

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Speaker 4: lot of discussion of how do we call ourselves, and

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Speaker 4: since we had members from the communities surrounding the park,

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Speaker 4: the decision was made to officially title our club the

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Speaker 4: Kawanas Club of e Fork Region. And we have members

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Speaker 4: from Batavia, the Amelia area, Williamsburg, the New Richmond, Owensville, Williamsburg.

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Speaker 4: I think I said, all around around the park.

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Speaker 2: How long have you been involved with the Fields of

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Speaker 2: Honor ever since your inception as a club?

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Speaker 4: Well, not quite, not quite. Our club actually formed right

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Speaker 4: at the right before COVID, and of course that first

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Speaker 4: year was tough for everyone and we managed to work

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Speaker 4: through that. We became aware of the Fields of Honor program,

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Speaker 4: which is a function of the Colonial Flag Foundation out

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Speaker 4: of Sandy, Utah.

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Speaker 5: About five years ago.

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Speaker 4: This this will be our fifth year doing Fields of.

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Speaker 3: Honor in Claremont County.

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Speaker 2: All right, fantastic, Now the effort starts, actually, tell me

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Speaker 2: the first of November. November first, right, is when you will.

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Speaker 4: Will officially open our Fields of Honor on November first

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Speaker 4: this year, with opening ceremonies beginning at eight thirty.

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Speaker 3: In the morning on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: And we go sequentially from one field to the next

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Speaker 4: and repeat the opening ceremonies four times during that Saturday.

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Speaker 4: So we have fields in Batavia, in Union Township, in Bethel,

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Speaker 4: and at Williamsburg. So at eight thirty at Bethel, ten o'clock,

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Speaker 4: Union Township, Bethel is eleven thirty am, and then Williamsburg

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Speaker 1: Pm, one pm.

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Speaker 4: And then the flag. The flags will fly throughout the

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Speaker 4: month of November. We take them down on the first

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Speaker 2: It's such a wonderful tribute to those who have given

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Speaker 2: their all for our country and for that flag.

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Speaker 1: Bob.

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Speaker 2: For people who've never experienced it or don't know about

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Speaker 2: Fields of Honor, can you explain a little bit more

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Speaker 2: of what you do. You just mentioned putting up the

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Speaker 2: American flags and letting them fly at these separate fields

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Speaker 2: in your region. But this is a nationwide effort, and

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Speaker 2: just give us a little bit more background behind Fields

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Speaker 2: of Honor and what it means.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: Fields of Honor started with the Colonial Flag Foundation, as

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Speaker 4: I mentioned, immediately following the events of nine to eleven

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Speaker 4: many years ago, and in Sandy, Utah, they actually do

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Speaker 4: a nine.

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Speaker 3: To eleven Fields of Honor.

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Speaker 4: I think they call it Fields of Healing where they

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Speaker 4: fly one American flag for every person that lost their

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Speaker 4: life on nine to eleven at one location. So just

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Speaker 4: imagine thousands of full sized American flags on flagpoles.

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Speaker 3: It's awesome.

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Speaker 4: We became aware of this program, like I said, some

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Speaker 4: years ago, and we thought that it would be really important.

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Speaker 3: To show some tribute to.

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Speaker 4: Those folks in Claremont County who have served our nation

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Speaker 4: as members of the armed forces or as first responders

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Speaker 4: actually serving within our communities. They should not necessarily be

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Speaker 4: play second fiddle, if you will, to our military veterans,

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Speaker 4: because they're just as important and in many cases more

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Speaker 4: important than our military. We started this with the whole

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Speaker 4: idea of just doing a display of American flags to

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Speaker 4: honor them during the month of November. Of course, Veterans

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Speaker 4: Day falls within November, and it's a fitting time, that's correct.

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Speaker 4: It's a fitting time to honor members of our armed

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Speaker 4: and also the first responder. So we picked that particular

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Speaker 4: month to do our fields of honor. And then, of

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Speaker 4: course the big question was, because our service area is

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Speaker 4: fairly large, what community do we place it in? And

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Speaker 4: we quickly came to the realization that we couldn't limit

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Speaker 4: it just to one location, and that's how we ended

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Speaker 4: up doing four and in each of these locations on

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Speaker 4: November first, if you visit those fields, you will see

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Speaker 4: you about one hundred and twenty five flags in each location.

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Speaker 3: To honor those that have served.

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Speaker 4: We also give the public an opportunity to maybe bring

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Speaker 4: the whole situation a little bit closer to themselves by

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Speaker 4: dedicating a flag to a veteran or to a first responder,

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Speaker 4: maybe a family member, a neighbor, a coworker, somebody that

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Speaker 4: know that they knew that maybe is no longer with us.

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Speaker 4: I know that personally, I honor a flag for my

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Speaker 4: dad's service during World War Two, and he has passed

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Speaker 4: on many years ago. But without him and a bunch

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Speaker 4: of his friends, our world would be a whole lot

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Speaker 4: different today.

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Speaker 2: We'd be speaking German or Japanese, and we certainly wouldn't

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Speaker 2: enjoy the freedoms that allow us to honor them like

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Speaker 2: you guys are doing there with the Kawana's Club.

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Speaker 5: You're quite accurate.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 4: The other thing that I find pretty interesting is that

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Speaker 4: Kawana says an organization focuses on helping children, and so

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Speaker 4: the question that's often asks, why are we doing these flags?

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Speaker 4: How does that help kids? And a personal story is

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Speaker 4: when my daughter was very was just born, maybe her

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Speaker 4: first year of life, we took her to a we

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Speaker 4: went to a Veteran's Day parade in the community in

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Speaker 4: which we lived, and my wife said, how do we

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Speaker 4: teach our child to experience the meaning of an American

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Speaker 4: national anthem, whether it be on TV or at a ballgame.

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Speaker 4: How many people experience the you know, the kind of

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Speaker 4: of event happens, And how do we teach that? And

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Speaker 4: and it quickly came to through our minds that we

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Speaker 4: need to talk about patriotism. We need to expose our

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Speaker 4: children to those kinds of events and then have a

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Speaker 4: conversation tell them what it means to serve. And so

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Speaker 4: we feel as a quantus club that when we plant

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Speaker 4: those flags out in the field of in this day

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Speaker 4: or will be putting the flags out October thirty first,

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Speaker 4: when we put a flag in the ground on a flagpole,

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Speaker 4: we're planting a seed for patriotism and that flag can

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Speaker 4: become a conversation starter. Hopefully it does, and many many

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Speaker 4: many families between children and parents. Kids might say, Dad,

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Speaker 4: what are all those flags doing there? Therefore the conversation

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Speaker 4: can begin. Or parents can bring their children out to

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Speaker 4: the opening ceremonies on November first and have a conversation.

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Speaker 4: Or better yet, if you dedicate a flag to a

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Speaker 4: family member, maybe to an uncle or a aunt or

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Speaker 4: a grandpa, or you can bring your you can bring

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Speaker 4: your child out to that field and you can find

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Speaker 4: the dedication tag that will be attached to one of

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Speaker 4: the flags, and you can say, this flag is dedicated

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Speaker 4: to Grandpa who served during the Vietnam War, or who

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Speaker 4: who served maybe as a firefighter or it's a policeman.

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Speaker 2: What you're saying is so to the point, Bob, is

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Speaker 2: that our kids today are exposed to so many things,

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Speaker 2: are indoctrinated against patriotism. In many cases, we've seen time

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Speaker 2: the time that they just have no idea what they're

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Speaker 2: talking about, especially the ones that are cheering socialism. They

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Speaker 2: don't understand what socialism is, but they don't understand what

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Speaker 2: it means to be a patriotic American. They don't understand

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Speaker 2: what civics are because they're not taught those. So it

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Speaker 2: is up to the parents and the grandparents too, as

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Speaker 2: you said, teach them and show them and start this conversation.

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Speaker 2: And the best place is in the home and in

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Speaker 2: the community is certainly not from the government. And there

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Speaker 2: are adults right now. There are people who are living

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Speaker 2: adult lives twenty one, twenty two years old who weren't

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Speaker 2: alive during nine to eleven and have no real reconnection, recollection,

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Speaker 4: You can call me, pass along your email address. I

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Speaker 2: We're short on time. Give that email real quickly again,

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Speaker 1: What's what's the email?

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Speaker 4: W The email you can send it to r Rob

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Speaker 2: All right, Bob Rob, thank you so much. I think

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Speaker 1: Mike.

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Speaker 2: All right, first, let let's go ahead, get the plug

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Speaker 3: they found four and senatory ied explosive devices there down

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Speaker 3: the street. This is close down to the White House.

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Speaker 3: I think it's called Saint Constantine's a Catholic church. They

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Speaker 3: got a Kip went there.

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Speaker 6: Four more.

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Speaker 3: They went to the fire station that's beyond hind the

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Speaker 3: White House in that district. Four more. Now, let me

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Speaker 3: explain to you that you listen to what we're talking about.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about incendiary and explosive devices. We're not talking

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Speaker 3: about something that gives somebody a second degree burn on

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Speaker 3: the forum. And that's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not We're not talking about we're not talking

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Speaker 2: about Antifa or these pro Hamas protesters firing fireworks. These

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Speaker 2: are actual bombs that were used against our troops in

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Speaker 2: Afghanistan and Iraq.

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Speaker 3: That is correct, And they will take out hundreds, They

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Speaker 3: will take out the entire church in half of the

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Speaker 3: block with it. So we're talking about now this thing

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Speaker 3: is escalated where they're looking to do major terrorist attacks.

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Speaker 5: And this is just in DC.

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Speaker 3: You remember we're cleaning up BC. We're concerning now we've

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Speaker 3: gottenn intel that they're in the process of looking to

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Speaker 3: create additional terist attacks all across the country, stage on

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Speaker 3: Rabbits succession, to create panic and fear across the country.

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Speaker 3: This issue of hiding behind We're just trying to defend

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Speaker 3: poor people who are trying to make a better way

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Speaker 3: of life is a bunch of bunk.

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Speaker 2: And I can Michael, and I cannot help but believe

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Speaker 2: that the four years of an unvetted, unpatrolled border and

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Speaker 2: free flow illegal immigration into this country has not fueled this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there.

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Speaker 2: Are terror cells all over this country that were let

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Speaker 2: in during the Biden administration.

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Speaker 1: I know that that's true.

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Speaker 3: At least one hundred and twenty that we're aware, possibly more. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and they're in a process. Now. We've spent these years

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Speaker 3: under the Bidens administration organizing, preparing, mapping out plans. People say, well,

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Speaker 3: just go pick them all up. There's what you hear

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Speaker 3: a little tuckle in my voice. We're trying to of

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Speaker 3: just known forget terrorists, just known criminals that are here illegally.

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Speaker 3: You look what we're in kind of of the people

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Speaker 3: with a deranged s called the during Trump syndrome that

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Speaker 3: would rather have people in this country murder and kill

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Speaker 3: their fellow citizens than to have them picked up for

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Speaker 3: breaking the law and deported and dealt with acquarding with Well, this.

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Speaker 2: Is this is why, this is why President Trump decreed

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Speaker 2: by executive order that Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization

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Speaker 2: because it fits all of the all of the definitions

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Speaker 2: of a terrorist organization, and it should be outlawed. They

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Speaker 2: should be arresting they should be arresting Antifa members in

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Speaker 2: this country simply for being members of Antifa. It's a

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Speaker 2: terrorist organization, period, end of story. And Black Lives Matter

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Speaker 2: isn't far behind.

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Speaker 3: You're exactly right, You're nor is trendy EDUA. They've already

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Speaker 3: been declared as a domestic organization enemy combatants as well

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Speaker 3: as the cartels. And here's what it's so frustrating. The

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Speaker 3: Tenth Amendment clearly has two provisions that military course is

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Speaker 3: authorized on American soil. Would you either have a national

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Speaker 3: emergency as declared by the president is sole discretion for

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Speaker 3: whatever he feels like that is that has emergency, or

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Speaker 3: there are enemy combatants on American soil. Imagine the ludicrocy

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Speaker 3: of there are the less argument that in World War Two,

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Speaker 3: had we had Nazi German shoulders or the Empire of

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Speaker 3: Japan's soldiers on American soil, but we said, oh, well,

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Speaker 3: you know they're on American soil, so we can't have

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Speaker 3: American troops do anything because American troops are not allowed

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Speaker 3: on American soil. And it's just ludicrous their thought. They're

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Speaker 3: trying their activist judges. They're simply trying to delay the

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Speaker 3: justice that needs to come. And unfortunately, why they're trying

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Speaker 3: to delay the justice, they are putting Americans at risk,

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Speaker 3: and I think they should be old accountable court.

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Speaker 2: The federal government, according to the Constitution, has to clear

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Speaker 2: two clear responsibilities. It's spelled out in words that can't

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Speaker 2: be misinterpreted by anyone. To provide for the common defense

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Speaker 2: and to promote the general welfare. How do you promote

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Speaker 2: the general welfare by letting crime run rampant across your

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Speaker 2: cities and let these foreign combatants control and in Trendy

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Speaker 2: Aragra controlling entire apartment complexes where they just took them over.

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Speaker 2: That is not promoting the general welfare. That is not

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Speaker 2: providing for the common defense, the two main charges of

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Speaker 2: government in a constitutional republic. And if Donald Trump is

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Speaker 2: trying to provide for the common defense, and we need

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Speaker 2: our American military on American streets, so be it.

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Speaker 1: I say, you.

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Speaker 3: Say, oh, you're exactly right. There's no question you're right there.

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Speaker 3: And one of the things I'm proud of in this

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Speaker 3: administration is the president he is trying to be proactive,

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Speaker 3: not just reactive. When we're talking about providing for the

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Speaker 3: common defense. He has told the cartels so you remember

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Speaker 3: now we were at war with them, they are enemy combatants.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Not only are we're going to clean it up on

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Speaker 3: American soirow, We're going to go to the source. That's

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Speaker 3: why we have a naval fleet off the coast of Venezuela,

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Speaker 3: who yesterday I believe it was sunking out of the

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Speaker 3: fourth Yep. Ye, they have something that are full of

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Speaker 3: the shifts are full of drugs, ordinances and gang members

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Speaker 3: from trend Gouda. We've made it very clear you're not

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Speaker 3: welcome in this country and we're going to sit them

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Speaker 3: to the bottom of the ocean.

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Speaker 2: I have lots of sympathy for those murderous bastards. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you that right now.

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Speaker 1: Michael, lets invest USA.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time once again, sir,

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Speaker 2: and we'll we'll speak again soon and hopefully it'll be

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Speaker 2: a little bit more positive.

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Speaker 1: The next time we do.

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Speaker 3: Well, we are going to win at some point. We'll

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Speaker 3: have that conversation at some point. Don till then. We're

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Speaker 3: going to make sure Americans are safe and secure.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. God bless you, sir. Thank you so much. Michael.

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Speaker 2: Lets as we continue on this nightcap on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: It is the nightcap.

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Speaker 2: As we roll along on this Tuesday evening on seven

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Speaker 2: hundred WLW, Garry Jeff with our old friend Judd Dunning,

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Speaker 2: the host of Unapologetic, the man who wrote the book

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Speaker 2: Eleven and a half Reasons Not to Be a Liberal.

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Speaker 2: And he's a businessman, very successful guy, and he has

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Speaker 2: some fantastic takes on the politic of America and just

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Speaker 2: what it means to be American and to preserve this

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Speaker 2: great constitutional republic in which we live. And one of

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Speaker 2: the things that we will be talking about is Pete

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Speaker 2: Hagseath as the new Secretary of War, the Department of War,

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Speaker 2: and the rebirth of the American warrior in the Armed Services.

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Speaker 1: But jud Dunning, welcome to the show. How are you ah?

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Speaker 5: Great to be back, my man. God bless America. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: every day, every day, I'm as happy as they choose

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Speaker 5: to be, Buddy. That's that's America.

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Speaker 2: I love I love this piece that you sent me

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Speaker 2: this morning. The American Warrior reborn, America's new War Department

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Speaker 2: under Pete hag Seth is winning. And you're referring, of

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Speaker 2: course to the speech to our military that Pete hag

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Speaker 2: Seth gave in accordance with Donald Trump's calling all of

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Speaker 2: the admirals and generals together about a week week and

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Speaker 2: a half, go uh to you know, just kind of

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Speaker 2: set the record straight about what the armed services is,

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Speaker 2: about how important they are to defending freedom and keeping

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Speaker 2: this country alive and thriving, and how we have you know,

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Speaker 2: more peace through strength. And they are they are absolutely

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Speaker 2: focusing the president and the new Secretary Pete Hegseth on

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Speaker 2: strength in the military overwolkeness.

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Speaker 1: Are they not?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely? You know, look, Trump's whole thing, make America great

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Speaker 5: Great is the hate crime of the decade, right Baxism.

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Speaker 5: Trump is in vaxis trump racism and climatism. Like if

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Speaker 5: they can split you, they can break you down, right,

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Speaker 5: and then they can shame you. And then they basically say, oh,

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Speaker 5: you don't want to be great, you don't want to shine,

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Speaker 5: you don't want to be excellent because that's unfair to

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Speaker 5: someone else. You know, there's no saky net, no celiing America.

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Speaker 5: But communism socialism thrived where everybody is beat down, tired,

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Speaker 5: and things seem to be fair, and so here we go.

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Speaker 5: There were two moments. There was when Obama was in

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Speaker 5: front of the UN and he apologized for our American racist,

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Speaker 5: beat down society. Trump was there and he said, hey,

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Speaker 5: it's okay to be great. His whole theme is American excellency.

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Speaker 5: But what we've got is this homogeneous EU apologism going

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Speaker 5: through all of the military. And there the Trump train

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Speaker 5: came to the military. You know, they're not civilians, and

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Speaker 5: right there he's claiming for great excellence. You know, I

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Speaker 5: think that was the key. It was another element of

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Speaker 5: his success. You know, our culture is slowly clawing itself back.

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Speaker 5: We're getting vigilant strength back to you know, protect ourselves.

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Speaker 5: You know this this, you know it's great. I used

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Speaker 5: in my article. I used Matthew five fourteen sixteen. You

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Speaker 5: ye are the light of the world. The city said

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Speaker 5: on a hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light

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Speaker 5: a candle and put it under a bushel, but on

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Speaker 5: a candlestick and give it light unto those that are

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Speaker 5: in the house. So let your line shine before men.

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Speaker 5: And that's America. And so we brought it to the

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Speaker 5: military with headsets, and I think that was a that

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Speaker 5: was the most important thing is we took a piece

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Speaker 5: of society, We cut a piece of pie, and we said, hey,

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Speaker 5: this is now outside the politically correct digression, the long game,

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Speaker 5: the long march of cultural Marxists on our society. It

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Speaker 5: will not be you know, the EI. It was a

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Speaker 5: great moment. I think that was what was most important.

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Speaker 5: And especially following the tragedy and the lawlessness of the

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Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk moment and all the hate that we saw,

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Speaker 5: just great timing for our society.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I absolutely agree.

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Speaker 2: And I love how Pete Eggseth has emphasized bringing back

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Speaker 2: the American warrior and having a warrior ethos in that department,

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Speaker 2: because through that strength you are guaranteed to at least

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Speaker 2: project peace and spread peace in that way. It's a

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Speaker 2: wonderful dichotomy when it comes to, you know. And I

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Speaker 2: love the fact that you did include the verse from

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Speaker 2: the verses from Matthew in your piece, because while Pete

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Speaker 2: Hegseth and the President are insisting that the warriors put

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Speaker 2: on their battle gear, Christians, you know, in the wake

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Speaker 2: of Charlie Kirk and the rest need to put on

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Speaker 2: our spiritual battle gear, you know, and you know the

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Speaker 2: verses that I'm talking about, Jud, we need we need

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Speaker 2: to put on our spiritual our.

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Speaker 1: You know, and our sword and shield, our sword and shield.

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Speaker 2: And you know what the pastor of the church we

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Speaker 2: go to just this past Sunday was talking about putting

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Speaker 2: on the shoes.

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Speaker 1: Of the Gospel of peace.

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Speaker 2: Your your your footwear, your entitled battle gear as a

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Speaker 2: Christian are are important to surviving the spiritual battles that

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Speaker 2: are going on and are likewise, our American warriors need

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Speaker 2: to have the battle gear that they need for the

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Speaker 2: battles that they face. It's it's amazing. It's an amazing time,

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Speaker 2: and it's an amazing thing. Good, great and amazing things

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Speaker 2: deserve to be protected fiercely.

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Speaker 1: You right, I'm talking to jud Dunning on the Nightcap.

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Speaker 5: And then they did it with the Navy right afterwards

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Speaker 5: and they were complete. So you know, it's interesting. I

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Speaker 5: heard I think it was Bill Maher saying, you know,

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Speaker 5: are we do we have creeping fascism are suddenly on

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Speaker 5: the streets in Memphis and Chicago and uh, you know

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Speaker 5: Portland where we're going to to stop crime. I'm in

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Speaker 5: I'm in Los Angeles and Texas. Uh, Los Angeles by friendship,

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Speaker 5: Texas by you know, taxes and rationality, like I go back,

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Speaker 5: you know, and uh, but I also I love the

658
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Speaker 5: ethos down but I do I do have to say,

659
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 5: you know, the culture of Badangas really dynamics a lot

660
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Speaker 5: of real, real foreign thinkers out here too. And besides

661
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 5: all the problems, but you know they're saying, oh, well,

662
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 5: Trump's militarism is actually fascism, and he's slowly setting himself

663
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Speaker 5: up this sort of sat on the air to take

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Speaker 5: over the next election cycle. I was like, have you

665
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Speaker 5: looked at Trump? You guys have beaten him down on

666
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 5: so hard. Yeah, he's gonna punch out and leave a

667
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Speaker 5: successful behind him. I mean, you know, ninety one million

668
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Speaker 5: dollars fine to asops the nation against two a peachment's

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Speaker 5: forty one lawsuits, right, I mean, the guys, the guy's

670
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 5: doing a great job. But it's not militarism that he's

671
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 5: putting up. He's just putting up moral absolutism. We have

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00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 5: a jujeo Christian society based on good is good, bad

673
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 5: as bad. You know, that is why we are the

674
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Speaker 5: reluctant superpower of the world. It's not peace. As a

675
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Speaker 5: reluctant superpower, anybody was to be in charge in this

676
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 5: broken world. We didn't ask to be the global sheriff.

677
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 5: We inherited the badge when Europe's empires collapsed, you know,

678
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 5: And that's that's Americans peace through Shank. But in order

679
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Speaker 5: to do it right now, there's a really hard, evil,

680
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Speaker 5: militaristic world with a lot of oligarchies, a lot of dictatorships,

681
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 5: and a lot of oppressive regimes. We have to be

682
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 5: stronger than ever. And I loved I loved how in

683
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Speaker 5: depth he went into how dominant we are in the

684
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Speaker 5: military space, and we could conquer so many people. We're

685
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: not interested, you know, We're not interested. So it's great.

686
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Speaker 2: We want to thrive. We want to live in peace,

687
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Speaker 2: and we want the other countries of the world to

688
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: live in peace. Jud we want them to thrive. President

689
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: Trump has said that over and over and over again.

690
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: I want them to do well, because when they do well,

691
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: the whole world can do well and not be threatened

692
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Speaker 2: by this specter of war constantly. But you have to

693
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: be prepared if war happens, and you have to be

694
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Speaker 2: strong enough to face those challenges and those despots and

695
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: those oligarchies around the world. You're absolutely one hundred percent

696
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: right on target with that. I wanted to ask you

697
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: to just you're taken a couple of other things that

698
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: have been going on, and this just was announced yesterday

699
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Speaker 2: by the Department of Justice and things that have been found.

700
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Speaker 2: I think it was either cash matel or Dan Bongino

701
00:43:54,520 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: has found that the Biden Department of Justice was doing

702
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: covert investigations on eight lawmakers as late as twenty twenty three,

703
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: revolving around January sixth. But they were looking at their

704
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: phone records and you know, doing a bunch of really

705
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Speaker 2: illegal things like they did to American citizens that Catholic

706
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Speaker 2: parents who complained at school boards about trans and story

707
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Speaker 2: time and all the things their kids were being subjected

708
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Speaker 2: to against their will and against their beliefs. And they

709
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: were doing that to these senators, and like Josh Holly said, look,

710
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Speaker 2: if they can do it to us, they can do

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Speaker 2: it to any American citizen. And there's evidence that they did.

712
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: Ninety two different conservative organizations were being spied on by

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Speaker 2: the Biden DOJ, including Turning Point USA in the In

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years of the Biden administration.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And you know they had a hearing today in the

717
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Speaker 2: Senate on this and there will be more hearings to come.

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Speaker 2: The question is do they really get to the bottom

719
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Speaker 2: of it and do these people get prosecuted for committing

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Speaker 2: these crimes against fellow American citizens?

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, I mean that's what the Arctic frost probe

723
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Speaker 5: is about. Right as it relates to the twenty twenty election,

724
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Speaker 5: there was Listen, I stand clear that you know A

725
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 5: Navey's bragged about it in time, like the launch of

726
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 5: the COVID crisis was a way to destroy somebody who

727
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 5: was going to second Reaganesque win and the Left was

728
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 5: going to be lost. So whether COVID was born in

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00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 5: a lab or happened in nature, it doesn't matter. It

730
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Speaker 5: was it was captured, weaponized for press draconian and during

731
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Speaker 5: that period of time, I mean, people were drunk on power.

732
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Speaker 5: And if people look at the left right, their home

733
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Speaker 5: modality is it's like, oh, hey, you know, we're going

734
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Speaker 5: to act like we care about the common man, we

735
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 5: care about the borders, we care about race, we care

736
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Speaker 5: about trends. But really they always use these sub sects

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Speaker 5: to elevate power to the top, the communists and the

738
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Speaker 5: socialistic cultural Marxism of hard leftism, the six percent of

739
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Speaker 5: our country that has captured thirty four percent of good

740
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Speaker 5: old fashioned Democrats. They're deferently on the march and they

741
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 5: definitely don't have morally that moral absolutism, and you look

742
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 5: through their entire ethos. I mean, it was war for them.

743
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 5: We were attacking their way of life. And so God's grace,

744
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 5: Trump got back in and our country has radically reversed

745
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Speaker 5: in the other direction. You know, I talked about this

746
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 5: in my book. I'm like, I'm not pro Republican forever.

747
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 5: I'm pro diametric system of government in America. Left right

748
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Speaker 5: left right happens every twelve years. But a broken family

749
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 5: caulcilifies in one direction and it doesn't go of power. And

750
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Speaker 5: they were doing anything to hold it. And you know what,

751
00:46:58,520 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 5: you can see it more than that. Let me ask

752
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 5: you a question, or any of your listeners. What is

753
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 5: the left really offered you? What is their platform? What

754
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 5: is what is what is? What are they offering America?

755
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 5: There's been nothing for quite some time besides you know,

756
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 5: shame and beating people down into some kind of like

757
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 5: level playing field. They haven't offered anything that. It hasn't

758
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 5: stimulated the economy, it hasn't stimulated family, it hasn't stimulated patriotism.

759
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 5: There's nothing so other thing of the dog James, absolutely real.

760
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Speaker 5: And I here's the problem though, and I talk about

761
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 5: this all the time, as I say, they are for

762
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 5: me is not republicanis rationalists, but I am a Republican.

763
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 5: Is do we really have a system that will take

764
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 5: down the corrupt elites? Because above the Democrats, above the Republicans,

765
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 5: you and I see it frontline every day. There is

766
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 5: definitively an elite class that it's separated from justice. Can

767
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 5: Pam Bondie get there? Can Cash Pateel get there? Can

768
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Speaker 5: Trump stand in that way? And will that's try to

769
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Speaker 5: kill him again if he does? Right? I mean that

770
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 5: are it's pretty bad up there.

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Speaker 2: I just talked last night jud to uh And by

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Speaker 2: the way, what is the left done for me? Let

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00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: me paraphrase Kamala Harrison the view before the election. You know,

774
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: nothing really comes to mind. But let me also say

775
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 2: this about what you just your remark you just made

776
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: is that I all I know is what I see

777
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Speaker 2: and what I see I believe with my own eyes.

778
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Speaker 2: But I had an interview last night with a woman

779
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: who's written a book that was based on a diary

780
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Speaker 2: of one of Jeffrey Epstein's victims and called Blue Butterfly.

781
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: It's coming out anyway. This woman was sex traffic for

782
00:48:53,920 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: two years and when she first met jeffreyin he was

783
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: there with Bill Clinton and Chris Tucker, the comedian actor,

784
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: and Kevin Spacey. But you talk about this elite class

785
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: that seemingly is above the law, above being held to

786
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 2: any kind of a standard, just exactly what you were

787
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: talking about it and it goes well beyond politics, certainly.

788
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Speaker 2: The other thing was, you know, hamas as used these

789
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: hostages as human shields to protect themselves. And as you

790
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: were talking about the left trying to hold on to

791
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Speaker 2: power and using trans or woke narratives to as a

792
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Speaker 2: as a cause to celeb, they use ideological shields to

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Speaker 2: protect themselves and keep them in power. It's the same thing.

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00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: It may not be people, but it is often, but

795
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Speaker 2: it's it's ideas. They use ideas as shields to protect

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Speaker 2: themselves and to try and insulate their power. Is that

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Speaker 2: is that a good assessment.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, I'm a saws or as powerful as humans

799
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Speaker 5: at this point, you know, it could be weaponized, slipped,

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Speaker 5: polarized gas lits, and then before anybody can come to consciousness,

801
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 5: they're worn down and it can move to the next point.

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00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 5: It sits in people's resonance right. The ideological contamination of

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Speaker 5: David Hort said a great on My show. He said,

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Speaker 5: they don't have to be organized. He said, the ideas

805
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 5: are so bad ideologically that they self organize around the

806
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Speaker 5: corruptness that comes out of them because they're so fought.

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Speaker 5: So I'm completely aligned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that we've spoken since Charlie Kirk,

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00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: since the assassination and what happened in the aftermath. But

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Speaker 2: jud it's amazing what God can do with the most

811
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Speaker 2: dire of situations, and the opposition to turning point USA

812
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Speaker 2: has totally been turned on its seat. It truly was

813
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: a turning point for that organization, but for the entire country.

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00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: I believe in an entire generation of people who understand

815
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: now how precious freedom of speech is, how important it is,

816
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: and it has motivated so many thousands, millions of people

817
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Speaker 2: to start rowing in the right direction.

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Speaker 5: I think man, I have to tell you, I just

819
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 5: want to weep, right. I mean, it is the worst

820
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Speaker 5: thing I've ever seen live in my life, the worst

821
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Speaker 5: thing that I've seen. And I'm fifty nine. I've seen

822
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Speaker 5: some pretty rough stuff, you know. I work in the

823
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Speaker 5: I've been in the recovery community. I mean, I'm going

824
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 5: to talk about it. You to call me in a

825
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 5: few months. But our kid was trafficked and we lost

826
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Speaker 5: our kid, and I'm involved in a very powerful group

827
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Speaker 5: of family dependanyl. I've seen the darkness of society. I

828
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Speaker 5: can't talk about all of it because I'm in some

829
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Speaker 5: law cases right now, but very soon please add beyond. Yeah,

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00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 5: some things have to some justice has to finish. But

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Speaker 5: I've seen darkness. That was one of the darkest things

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00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 5: I've ever seen. And I one of the first posts

833
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 5: I got on Facebook was was it worth it now? Charlie.

834
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 5: I was like, Wow, that's what I wrote my article about.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, for two hundred and thirty four years, yes,

836
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Speaker 5: you know, the second of them, it is worth it,

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Speaker 5: And I'm sure Charlie would agree. And I just took

838
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Speaker 5: the high road and I focused on that. But since then,

839
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Speaker 5: you know what it has exposed and you're naming it.

840
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 5: You're naming it so beautifully. It has exposed inherent goodness

841
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 5: because you have this moment. Right, we all go through

842
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 5: life and it's like the narrative therapy within ourselves. We

843
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 5: can tell ourselves a reality. I'm saying, you know what,

844
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 5: I'm gonna focus on what's good about America. I can

845
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 5: go down. Oh, I hate the left. I hate this.

846
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 5: Now there are bad people in the good society, and

847
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 5: the high road really is held by the right. It

848
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Speaker 5: is definitely within our our principles, our conservative principles, conserving

849
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 5: what is good. It's true all the way back to

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00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 5: Plato's case deism did Juday of Crystal Lot, to common

851
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 5: law to the modern day. It's alive and well in

852
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Speaker 5: America and it's flowering. And I think Eric's statement about

853
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 5: I forget him showing the highest principle was gorgeous. But

854
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 5: then look at what happened yesterday as you were bringing

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00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 5: up with Jay Jones. Suddenly, now, if you take a

856
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 5: more relativistic crowd, Oh, I can rationalize George Floyd like violence.

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00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 5: I can rationalize a bullet to the head of my opponent.

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00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 5: There's no people are like oh, it's just another part

859
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 5: put the modernity and now that we're making it normal.

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00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 5: It's not normal, No.

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00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: It's not.

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00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: Jud Listen, our time's up, and sadly that's the case.

863
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: But I really appreciate it, and we definitely will communicate

864
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: on down the road, especially when you have some have

865
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Speaker 2: some resolution to what's going on with your family. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time tonight. Jud Dunning,

867
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: all right, the host of Unapologetic and our guest on

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00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 2: the night We continue here. We are at the job

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Speaker 2: of another hour of POWA on the Nightcap on seven

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Speaker 2: hundred WLW. Joining us for a few minutes from the

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Speaker 2: John Birch Society in Missouri, the one and only Wayne

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Speaker 2: Murrow Wayne Morrow rather, Wayne is the CEO of the

873
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Speaker 2: John Birch Society, a nonpartisan civics and education organization that

874
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Speaker 2: endorses the timeless principles of the Declaration of Independence, proclaimed

875
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: that our personal rights come from God, not from government.

876
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: I am a full believer in that, Wayne, So I

877
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Speaker 2: don't know if I'm a member yet of the John

878
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: Bird Society, but I believe I believe your exact principles

879
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 2: that you're espousing there.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. How are you?

881
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Speaker 3: Thank you?

882
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,959
Speaker 7: I appreciate it very much, and hopefully by.

883
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 4: Time we get finished, maybe you'll think about joining up.

884
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 3: The needs some more patriots in a battle. How's that?

885
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: The only thing I ever knew about the John Birch

886
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: Society is the Charlie Daniels song from the nineteen seventies

887
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 2: called Rider where he goes.

888
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 1: I'm a faithful.

889
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 2: Follower of Brother John Birch, and I belong to the

890
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 2: Ania Baptist Church. And I even got a garage. You

891
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: can call him and ask my wife. So I mean,

892
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: but people painted the John Birch Society sometimes as a

893
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 2: racist organization.

894
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: Tell tell me why it's not.

895
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Speaker 7: Well, we never have been, I think was the reason

896
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Speaker 7: why they plastered us with that. You know, let's give

897
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Speaker 7: you a current example. Look at President Trump. He's a fascist,

898
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 7: He's one of those he's oh yeah, right, yeah right.

899
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 7: And so the reason why they the smear campaign works

900
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 7: on anybody in the past is so you don't listen

901
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 7: to what they have to say. So if you don't

902
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 7: have the microphone and the mass media, that what happens

903
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 7: is is that they could say anything they want about you.

904
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 7: All of a sudden, they deny the truth. And so

905
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 7: our job was exposing really was happening. And because of this,

906
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 7: we became a target for them, and then eventually it

907
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 7: didn't work. So now they ignored it. So now people said,

908
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 7: are you people still around? Well, the going silent on

909
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 7: this is part.

910
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 3: Of the strategy.

911
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, they've been, they looked, and so that's what we've

912
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 7: been hard at work, and we're actually growing. And I

913
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 7: can tell you this. Alex Jones, we bound a show

914
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 7: and Steve Vann at all he said, you know, you

915
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 7: guys been right all along. You know you're the ogs.

916
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 7: We're the ogs, he said, we are, really are.

917
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: That's great, that's great.

918
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Speaker 2: So specifically, we're talking about redistricting around the country and

919
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 2: and the big controversy came up because Texas was redrawing

920
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 2: their map and Gavin Newsom in California said, well, we'll

921
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: we'll redraw our maps then, so the Republicans don't have

922
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: a chance to win any more seats in the House,

923
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 2: and and la la, la la, it goes on and

924
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 2: on and on. The thing is that was ignored by

925
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Speaker 2: a lot of the mass media in this discussion was

926
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Speaker 2: that the Democrats have been doing this for years.

927
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Speaker 1: They are they are. They are they are the.

928
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Speaker 2: Kings of gerrymandering, of redrawing maps to their advantage. They've

929
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Speaker 2: been doing it all over the country. I don't in

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Speaker 2: Massachusetts there is not one congressional seat that's held by

931
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Speaker 2: a Republican I believe, Uh there there's there are several

932
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Speaker 2: states that are like that, aren't, aren't there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, very very much. So that's exactly what happens,

935
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Speaker 7: is that. Uh that's an old trick, you know, and

936
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Speaker 7: and uh, you know, I think you know, you just

937
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 7: you know, this cuts to both directions. I mean, you know,

938
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Speaker 7: we should be evolved in that process. To say, by

939
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 7: the way, you have a new congressman. You know why

940
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 7: that because we decided to change it. You know, helps

941
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Speaker 7: the political parties. But you're exactly right. They've been doing

942
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Speaker 7: that for a long time and now the game has

943
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Speaker 7: been switched against them again. Now they don't like that,

944
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Speaker 7: so now they're belly aching, you know, like, oh it's

945
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Speaker 7: changed this. So you know, I think we make a

946
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Speaker 7: good point. Jerry Manderin has been around for a long time.

947
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Speaker 7: It's nothing new. It depends on who's controlling the pend

948
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 7: But you know that's not really I look at it

949
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 7: this way. That's that is to go to the real

950
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 7: problem we have. Our real problem we have is Americans.

951
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Speaker 7: The Conservatives, I use.

952
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Speaker 3: The MAGA movement.

953
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 7: They've been complacent because they Trump's in office and they've

954
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Speaker 7: kind of gone on sleep mode.

955
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Speaker 3: And we have an election.

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Speaker 7: Coming up because you mentioned it coming up next year,

957
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Speaker 7: which is an important one. And Congress makes the laws.

958
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Speaker 7: Gary they make the laws.

959
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Speaker 3: They always have.

960
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Speaker 7: All those eos that we have stacked up on his

961
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Speaker 7: desk don't mean anything to become lost, so it's nice

962
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Speaker 7: to see them.

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Speaker 4: They don't mean anything.

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Speaker 7: So I tell an other conversation I had around the country,

965
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Speaker 7: you should act like you lost. You should spend your

966
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Speaker 7: time educating people. We have on our website, the Freedom

967
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Speaker 7: so it's www. Dot Thefreedom index dot org is the

968
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Speaker 7: scorecards for every state legislator, House, and Senate, as well

969
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Speaker 7: as our federal government, and.

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Speaker 3: You can see how they vote constitutionally.

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Speaker 7: You can print them off and those are powerful tools

972
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Speaker 7: to see how your person's voting. And most people can

973
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 7: plain about legislatures carry but they aren't many times they

974
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 7: don't know who they are and how they vote. So

975
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Speaker 7: I said the question, well, you're over the Constitution. You

976
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 7: don't know who a legislature is. You think, by some magic,

977
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 7: some constitutional might, a nice guy's going to show up

978
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 7: or lady and then protect you and uphold the Constitution. Well,

979
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Speaker 7: that's fairy tale. You can't do this.

980
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 3: You have to get involved.

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Speaker 7: But that really was as are really the crux of

982
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Speaker 7: our problem now is complacency igorants of the system.

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Speaker 1: Oh listen, Wayne, I live in a state.

984
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Speaker 2: I live in Kentucky, right across the river from Cincinnati,

985
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Speaker 2: live in northern Kentucky. Have a super majority of Republicans

986
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Speaker 2: in the Kentucky House and Senate, And sometimes I think

987
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 2: that the voters who voted them in are a kind

988
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: of asleep, not staying on those people that are supposedly

989
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 2: working for them on their behalf in pursuing a continued

990
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: conservative movement and a constitutional movement within this state. So yeah,

991
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you can have a super majority of Republicans,

992
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean you're going to have a supermajority of

993
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: constitutional people, you know, creating laws in legislation that is

994
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: in accordance with the Constitution, in accordance with what the people.

995
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: Voted them for.

996
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, So it depends on it depends on the electorate

997
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 7: to keep them honest and then at least the conversation going.

998
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 7: And I'll tell you legislators a state as well as

999
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 7: federal if they see how you're watching them vote, they

1000
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 7: get serious about thinking about when they pull thet ever,

1001
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 7: are they really voting correctly? So they're concerned about that.

1002
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 7: So we have that tool, and you know, get people

1003
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 7: involved in the process. And it's all about getting your

1004
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 7: local neighbors involved and visit your legislator and say, look,

1005
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 7: you work for us. Are you doing a good job

1006
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 7: defending our country? Are upholding constitution in our state as

1007
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 7: well as our federal government. Our states are really important

1008
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 7: because we're sovereign states and our states stay legendari has

1009
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 7: given a lot of their powers to the federal government.

1010
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 7: That's why the federal government is totally insane. Which is

1011
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 7: totally insane. That's not we're supposed to have some countries.

1012
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 7: But that's the problem is that we should really look

1013
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 7: at our basic rooths about our states should be powerful

1014
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 7: and they should be independent and not put all the

1015
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 7: power back into the federal government. That's not the way

1016
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 7: it was intended. Now we have a federal government totally

1017
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 7: out of control. And so that is our fault because

1018
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 7: we have to take the responsibility to under state who

1019
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 7: we are, and we've drifted.

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Speaker 2: And I would say, but except when, except when these

1021
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: states do not adhere to federal law like they're doing

1022
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 2: in Illinois, like they're doing in Portland, Oregon. And that's

1023
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 2: what's why President Trump is having to protect federal troops

1024
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 2: and federal buildings with the you know, by going into

1025
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 2: these states who were refusing to observe federal law, like

1026
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Speaker 2: immigration law, for example.

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Speaker 7: Yes, exactly right, Well, there is that. Certainly, that's certainly

1028
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 7: what happened. Of course, now we have to take that

1029
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 7: bold step to make that happen. But that's because of

1030
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 7: the lack of understate of them. I go back to

1031
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 7: the citizens of America. We have to keep our country.

1032
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 7: We have to take the responsibility. We have to get involved.

1033
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: It's up to us to make that happen.

1034
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 7: We can't elect somebody and go to sleep. We have

1035
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 7: to make it happen that he couldn't go away. Brother,

1036
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 7: It's a NonStop responsibility.

1037
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Speaker 2: How do people find out more about the John Birch Society,

1038
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 2: Give me a quickie email or address or.

1039
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, of course it's called the www course JBS dot org.

1040
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 7: And we have a magazine every bo's called The New American.

1041
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 7: You'll find out a website the Neewamerican dot com and

1042
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 7: you find the and there you know the Freedom Index.

1043
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 3: We can print off all.

1044
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 7: Those scorecards we talked about. Lastly, we have a school

1045
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 7: from kindergarten high school fifteen years called the Freedom Project Academy.

1046
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 7: He's online school teach Americanism principles, right, curse of all

1047
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 7: good stuff. So we try to cover our basis, educate

1048
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 7: our kids as well as our adults.

1049
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 2: Well, this deserves a longer conversation. Maybe we can do

1050
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 2: that as soon, Wayne Morrow. From the Child to It

1051
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 2: from the John Birch Society. Up next, doctor Carol Lieberman,

1052
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 2: America's psychiatrist, and now a few moments with America's psychiatrist,

1053
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: the terrorist Therapist. She's been known that way ever since

1054
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 2: nine to eleven. And of course she has a new book,

1055
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Speaker 2: Lions and Tigers and Terrorists. Oh My, the one and

1056
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Speaker 2: only doctor Carol Lieberman. Welcome back to the show, Doctor Liberman.

1057
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Speaker 1: How are you?

1058
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Speaker 8: Thank you so much? Well, it's it's hard to be fine.

1059
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Speaker 8: On the second anniversary of October seventh, yes, I would.

1060
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Speaker 2: I would imagine, so it's hard to even I opened

1061
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 2: my show with a monologue on this being the two

1062
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Speaker 2: year anniversary, and I said, just imagine if here in America,

1063
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Speaker 2: your son or daughter or grandchildren were at a music

1064
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 2: festival and suddenly, out of the blue, these mongrel, murderous

1065
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 2: mongrels masked as human beings, attacked and either slaughtered them

1066
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Speaker 2: or took them hostage. And you know, I can't believe

1067
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 2: that there are still people who don't understand in this country,

1068
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Speaker 2: doctor Lieberman, that Israel did not bring this on themselves.

1069
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Speaker 1: They were attacked.

1070
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Speaker 8: Yes, you know, the Hamas and the Palestinians and their

1071
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 8: sympathizers Iran and all that have done a great job

1072
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 8: of pr of getting the lie across that they somehow,

1073
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Speaker 8: somehow the world believes Israel started it, or Israel the

1074
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Speaker 8: war is the worst one in this war. And of

1075
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Speaker 8: course that's not true. Yes, it started, well, they started

1076
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Speaker 8: their attack at the music festival, but and then they

1077
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Speaker 8: you know, continued all that. But people don't. People don't

1078
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Speaker 8: Not only do people not understand that or not remember that,

1079
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 8: or you don't want to not remember that, but people

1080
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 8: don't understand or or want to understand because it's scary

1081
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 8: that the terrorists, not just Tamas, but all the terrorists

1082
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Speaker 8: don't just want to just destroy Israel. Yes, that's the

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Speaker 8: number one uh target, but they want to destroy all Jews,

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Speaker 8: and they want to destroy all infidels, what they call

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Speaker 8: infidels in other words, people who don't believe in Islam.

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Speaker 8: So that is the majority of people, and and and

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Speaker 8: so everyone, like, let's just talk about America. Everyone is

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Speaker 8: in danger in America. I mean unless I guess that

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Speaker 8: you are a Muslim of the of the type that

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Speaker 8: these terrorists like. But so it's not you know, it's

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Speaker 8: not just poor Israel or it's not horrible Israel. It's

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Speaker 8: we need to think of the larger meaning of this.

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Speaker 8: I mean, quite frankly, in the last two years, you know,

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Speaker 8: since the since October seventh, since the original October seventh,

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01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 8: terrorists have been making great headway across the world, especially

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Speaker 8: in Europe. I mean they have been taking over countries

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Speaker 8: right and left. France, the UK is the worst, right now, Belgium, Germany, Sweden, Switzerland,

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Speaker 8: I mean every country, every Western European country, and they

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Speaker 8: are in Australia now, they've been in Africa for a

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01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 8: long time, killing people, you know, Christians in Africa. So

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01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 8: people need to wake up to this and realize that

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Speaker 8: it could be like you were saying at the beginning,

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01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 8: it could be their child's music festival.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, and the thing is too, the terrorist attacks, I believe,

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Speaker 2: and we have different ideas of what a terrorist attack is,

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01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 2: but the definition of a terrorist attack is someone committing

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01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 2: violence in aim of a political goal or a global

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01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 2: political that's the actual definition of terrorism. And the pro

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Speaker 2: hamas protesters in this country that have joined forces with antifolks,

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01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 2: that have joined forces with some members of the militant

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Speaker 2: Tree Brands community, they are all terrorists by definition, and

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01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 2: they are committing terror attacks on ice, on ICE officers,

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01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 2: on people, on college campuses, on speakers like Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 2: that these these are all terrorist acts, are they not.

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Speaker 8: Yes, that's right, I'm glad. Yes, it's the terrorists are

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01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,919
Speaker 8: already here, those kinds of terrorists who you were mentioning

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01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 8: domestic terrorists, but also radical Islamist terrorists who have crossed

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Speaker 8: the border. I mean, there are terrorist cells all over America,

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Speaker 8: and you know, all they need is a dog whistle,

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01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 8: and this country is going to be in even more

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Speaker 8: shape than it is now.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 8: As far as Trump's peace plan trump made, I mean,

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Speaker 8: you know, you got to give him credit. He has

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Speaker 8: done more for Israel, the Jews, but really for America,

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01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 8: you know, given that we're talking about everybody being in

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Speaker 8: danger than any other president, and he's his twenty point

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Speaker 8: plan is a very generous plan, generous towards Hamas and so,

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Speaker 8: but I don't think it's gonna work. I mean, I

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01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 8: don't think. The only part I think that's going to

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Speaker 8: work is the exchange of hostages for prisoners, you know,

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Speaker 8: for Hamas's prisoners. I mean, I mean Hamas's hostages and

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01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 8: the people from Hamas terrorists in it who have been

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Speaker 8: captured in Israel.

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Speaker 2: If a Maas doesn't, if they're not unarmed, it's still

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Speaker 2: a threat ongoing.

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Speaker 3: Forever, right.

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Speaker 8: And the reason why I think Hamas is going to

1140
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 8: make that trade is because they need more soldiers, so

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01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 8: they want people to be given back to them from

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01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 8: Israel so that they could then turn them into soldiers.

1143
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 8: But you know, regardless, it still would be wonderful if

1144
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 8: the hostages are returned, even the dead one, so that

1145
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 8: the family can bury them and all of that. But

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01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,759
Speaker 8: the thing that people don't well, I mean.

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01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 5: I worry.

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01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 8: I hope that that Trump has good enough people who

1149
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 8: are knowledgeable enough about terrorists because the thing is, you know,

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01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 8: there used to be the thing. You can't bargain with terrorists.

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01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:26,879
Speaker 8: You can't because terrorrists lie. And it's it's in the Hadith,

1152
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 8: the book about Muhammad, that you have permission to lie

1153
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 8: if it's for war. So they of course would be

1154
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 8: considering it's still war and they have the permission to lie,

1155
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 8: so they can say anything. They can agree to all

1156
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 8: the twenty points. I don't think they will, but they

1157
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 8: could agree to whatever they agree to. It's lying we

1158
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 8: can because it's not you know, here's the thing. Trump

1159
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 8: is a great negotiator. I have the Art of the

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01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 8: deal on my desk. But we're not talking about those

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01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 8: same kinds of people that we're not dealing with those

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01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 8: same kinds of people. We're dealing with people who are

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01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 8: who are driven by a real religious zeal that is

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01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,759
Speaker 8: that won't change. I mean, that's why on October seventh,

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01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 8: when they went into Israel, they had such madness in

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01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 8: their eyes because they were driven by this religious zeal

1167
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 8: to kill and name and do the worst things possible

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01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 8: to Israelis because they wanted to be a model in

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01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 8: the eyes of Allah, and so when they go to

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01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,719
Speaker 8: heaven then they can be you know, get their seventy

1171
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 8: two versions and all the other perks. So this is

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Speaker 8: what they believe. So you can't really deal with them logically.

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01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 8: And so that's why I think in the end, I

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01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 8: don't think it's going to be the final peace plan.

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01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't think it's going to ever last.

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01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 8: And plus Israel shouldn't have to keep giving up parts

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Speaker 8: of itself for peace.

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01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 2: No, you're right. I mean it's like they're having to

1179
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 2: amputate their their half of their body to to save

1180
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 2: their left arm. It's it's crazy, uh, Doc, doctor Lieberman,

1181
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 2: thank you so much. I wish we had more time

1182
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:13,520
Speaker 2: because it's such ad.

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01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 8: Say one more thing, because I had created a video,

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01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 8: a music video. I did it last year and it's

1185
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 8: still still true. On my website terroristtherapist dot com, you

1186
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 8: can see this music video about about the you know

1187
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 8: for the anniversary of October seventh, and you can see

1188
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 8: the whole story about what terrorists are really all about.

1189
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Speaker 2: And the book again, Lyons and Tigers and terrorists. Oh

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01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:42,560
Speaker 2: my doctor Carol Lieberman, the terrorist therapist on the Nightcap.

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01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:49,480
Speaker 1: Thank you as we put the wraps on this nightcap.

1192
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 2: Big news in the sports world, especially if you're a

1193
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 2: Bengals fan, if you're an NFL fan, or if you're

1194
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: a Flaco fan. Wow, that was the shot heard round

1195
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 2: the league, I'm sure. And now the teams that are

1196
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: on the Bengals schedule are going to be quivering in

1197
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 2: their boots. I'm certain Andy Furman is here to detail

1198
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 2: this what you probably have already heard by now at

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Speaker 2: this point, but to break it down, the one and

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01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 2: only fur Ball is on the Nightcap. Andy, tell me

1201
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 2: what you know. Tell me what you know and when

1202
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 2: you knew it?

1203
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 6: Well, I knew it about a little at the one

1204
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:33,919
Speaker 6: o'clock this say afternoon.

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01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 3: However, however, I don't know.

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01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,759
Speaker 6: If you're joking or talking with your tongue firmly planted

1207
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 6: in your cheek. But I will tell you this much,

1208
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 6: and I want to talk seriously about this trade. Joe

1209
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 6: Flock of forty year old quarterback comes from the Cleveland Browns,

1210
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 6: and I traded draft picks for six for a five.

1211
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 6: You know, Bengals going one way and the Browns the other.

1212
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 6: Very unusual trade trading within the division. So here's several things.

1213
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 6: Number One, I give this this night Bengals organization an

1214
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 6: eight plus or at least trying for doing something, you know,

1215
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 6: for something that has to be done, because I will

1216
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 6: pay you right here and now. Joe Flacco cannot be

1217
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 6: any worse than the performance we had seen last week.

1218
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 3: With Jake Brownie. So given plus for that.

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01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 6: Number two, I scratched my head and say, where was

1220
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 6: Russell Wilson, Where was Jameis Winston? Those guys were available.

1221
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 6: I would have loved to have seen one of those

1222
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 6: guys instead of a forty year old guy, because once

1223
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 6: he gets behind center with that offensive line, he's gonna

1224
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 6: have a couple of cracked ribs.

1225
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 3: Well, you haven't to be able to heal that quickly.

1226
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 6: He's an old man. You know.

1227
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 2: The Bengals were gone. The Bengals were going to have

1228
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: to go out and get somebody. Okay, last, but not least, Andy,

1229
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 2: go ahead.

1230
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 6: Last but not least. I mean Joe Flacco making the rounds.

1231
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 3: He's played for every.

1232
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 6: AFC North team now except Pittsburgh, So I mean, you

1233
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 6: know again, and the bad news is if there's any

1234
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 6: bad news in this at all, is the fact that

1235
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 6: you know this tells you what the Cleveland Browns honestly

1236
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 6: think of Joe Flacco. I mean, let's face it. A

1237
01:14:56,280 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 6: year ago he got benched by the Indianapolis Colts, and

1238
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 6: now he got benched and tossed out the door by

1239
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 6: the Cleveland brown So you know, the end is quite

1240
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 6: near for Joe Flacco, and behind that offensive line, the

1241
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 6: end may come even faster.

1242
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.

1243
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 6: But I give the organization an eight plus really for

1244
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 6: at least doing something, and that's that's a positive. Your

1245
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 6: fans should be happy about that. Like they did do

1246
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 6: the status call. Things are bad that that performance that

1247
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 6: Jake Browning had less less Sunday maybe one of the

1248
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 6: worst quarterback performances in the history of the Bengals organ.

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01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 2: Andy the last two Sundays. I mean, listen, Jake Browning

1250
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 2: was never going to be the answer for this team.

1251
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: They put all their eggs in Joe Burrow's basket. But

1252
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: you know what, they didn't protect their eggs and they're

1253
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 2: not going to be able to protect Joe Flacco for sure.

1254
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 2: I mean, Cleveland couldn't be Cleveland couldn't do it, and

1255
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 2: that's why they couldn't.

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01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 6: Have this Flaco. He's got a better offensive cast than

1257
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 6: he had in Cleveland. Oh, he's not to help the

1258
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 6: running game, but at least Joe Flacco, in my mind,

1259
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 6: can deliver the football, which is something Jake Brownie could

1260
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 6: not do offcause he couldn't do this year. He had

1261
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 6: done that, you know two years.

1262
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: Jo Joe Fla has done this year.

1263
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco has gone from Jerry Judy to Jamar Chase.

1264
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: You're right, that is a huge improvement.

1265
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 6: And Jerry Judy has been a very big disappointment in Cleveland.

1266
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 3: He really has it right. See what happens.

1267
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 6: I mean, she's can't cut the weapons. You know, he

1268
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 6: can deliver the ball. You know, we'll see what happens

1269
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 6: by the He's gonna play under center for sure, and

1270
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 6: I think that we'll find out tomorrow at the midweek

1271
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 6: news conference for coach Zach Taylor. You know, with the

1272
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 6: fact he's he's ready and willing unable to go this

1273
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 6: Sunday in Green Bay and maybe too soon, I don't know.

1274
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 2: Going I mean going back as far as uh when

1275
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco was with Baltimore. I mean when he was young,

1276
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: it became a situation of I used to remember making

1277
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 2: fun of Joe Flacco ten years ago. There's Joe Flacco

1278
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 2: on his back, another sacho.

1279
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 3: He is prone Flacco.

1280
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just always remember Joe Flacco on his

1281
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 2: bacco another sacho.

1282
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: There you go, and.

1283
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 2: That's when he could actually maybe even move a little

1284
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 2: bit more this day.

1285
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 6: What was what's the alternative when you think about it,

1286
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it's almost common sense. What was

1287
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 6: the alternative? You would stick with Jake Browning and let

1288
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 6: this season You're right, twelve weeks left.

1289
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 3: Its twelve weeks.

1290
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 6: I mean, there's still hope and the fact that this

1291
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 6: division to me right now, with Lamar Jackson has so

1292
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 6: many injuries on Baltimore, this division is somewhat wide open.

1293
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 6: It really is.

1294
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when Pittsburgh is uh is kind of

1295
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 2: like the Darling of the AFC North right now. And

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01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 2: the Steelers have their own problems. The Browns obviously, their

1297
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 2: defense will keep them in games, but Dylan Gabriel or

1298
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 2: saduor Sanders are this season are not with the rest

1299
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 2: of the cast that the Browns have is not going

1300
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 2: to take them to the Promised Land. So the Bengals,

1301
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 2: you're right, had to try something we always wondered about.

1302
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:14,440
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston. That was the name that was most notably

1303
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 2: bandied about. There's always a specter of Kirk Cousins coming

1304
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 2: back in a starting role. So Joe Flacco just traveled down.

1305
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 6: I'm going to pay that kind of money. They're not

1306
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 6: gonna pay Kirk Closes that kind of money. But but

1307
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 6: I'll tell you this much. You know, when I saw

1308
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 6: the Jacksonville team Monday night, yeh beat Kansas City and the.

1309
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 3: Honestly, listen, listen, listen, it hurts you to see that.

1310
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: I was hoping we weren't have to talk about this.

1311
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 3: Andy.

1312
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 6: The reason I bring it up, remember Jacksonville loss to

1313
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 6: the Bengals. We should give the Bengals some of This

1314
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,759
Speaker 6: Jacksonville team is a real good team. Defensively, they're tough.

1315
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 3: They're a tough on defense.

1316
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 2: The Bengals beat this team, that Jags, that Jaggs loss.

1317
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 2: By the way, remember Joe Burrows started that game and

1318
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 2: did play and got the Bengals, you know, a score.

1319
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 3: And and but they won.

1320
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 2: It was an aberration. That was an aberration. Andy that

1321
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:19,480
Speaker 2: that is a blip on the radar. That's any given Sunday.

1322
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 1: In the NFL.

1323
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 6: And maybe it was an operation that the Chiefs lost

1324
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,879
Speaker 6: last night. To them, I will tay this your Chiefs,

1325
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 6: and you could take this to the bank. They no

1326
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 6: longer put fear of God into teams in the NFL anymore.

1327
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 1: I don't agree, I agree, I agree with you.

1328
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 2: And it was you know, I'm here on the air

1329
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 2: and I'm watching the TV as the game's going on,

1330
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 2: and I'm just going, oh, come on, and then then

1331
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 2: it's the end of the game, and I figure, Okay,

1332
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 2: the Chiefs will hold out here, they'll hold out. And

1333
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 2: and then there's that girl who plays for Jacksonville, that

1334
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 2: tall girl, what's his name?

1335
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: Her name Trevor Lawrence.

1336
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrens right last night made a statement because there

1337
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 6: are so many years under his belt and people say

1338
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,719
Speaker 6: he's going to be the next coming of whatever. And

1339
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 6: last night when they were behind and they didn't need

1340
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 6: a field goal, they needed a touchdown ahead, and they did.

1341
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 6: There was a coming of age for Trevor Lawrence last night. Yeah,

1342
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 6: it was a great win for Jacksonville, but there was

1343
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 6: a bigger win, a bigger emotional step in the career

1344
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 6: of Trevor Lawrence, who really and truly has had the

1345
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 6: disadvantage of having something like three or four different coaches

1346
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 6: in five years, whatever it may be, and different offensive coordinators.

1347
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,600
Speaker 6: So right now I think he's he's matured.

1348
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 3: It was a big lead. We'll see where he goes

1349
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 3: from here.

1350
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 6: That's a big win last night for the team and

1351
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:40,679
Speaker 6: big move for him.

1352
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 2: You talk about the Bengals actually beating the Jags and

1353
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 2: that gives you some glimmer of hope for the rest

1354
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 2: of the season with Joe Flacco at quarterback, But listen,

1355
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 2: the Jags are four and one.

1356
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 6: That Bengals are the Liam Cole right now is honestly,

1357
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 6: I would think if they were voting, he'd be the

1358
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 6: coach of the Year right now.

1359
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: Out could be, really could be.

1360
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 2: I all I know is I really liked watching the

1361
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 2: Lions on Sunday afternoon. I love that team, and I.

1362
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 6: Think they love They had the best one two running

1363
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 6: punch in the National Football League. The defensive is aggressively aggressive,

1364
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 6: and their line play on both sides of the line

1365
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 6: is tremendous.

1366
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 4: What else is not to life.

1367
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 2: They're fun right now. They're fun to watch, They're entertaining.

1368
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 2: They are, and I think that they let up a

1369
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 2: little bit on the Bengals. I think they felt bad

1370
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 2: for the Bengals because the score show them.

1371
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 3: Into the game.

1372
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, I you know. And I'm surprised that the Bengals

1373
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 6: made that move now because I thought they saw a

1374
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 6: glimmer of hope when that scored three touchdowns in the

1375
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 6: last quarter. They put up twenty one points and and

1376
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 6: Bernie got himself together.

1377
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:50,799
Speaker 3: You know, I know those were.

1378
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 1: Those were fools, golden moments.

1379
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 6: That was Pie right, and I'm sure the Bengals felt

1380
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 6: the same way.

1381
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:57,759
Speaker 3: You're right, I hear you're saying.

1382
01:21:58,680 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1383
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 3: I just hope.

1384
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 6: You know what I think right now, every fan who's

1385
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 6: a fan of the Cincinnati Bengals, you leave today with hope, hope,

1386
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 6: and also the fact that you're willing to turn the

1387
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 6: radio one and listen to Dave Lapham and watch the

1388
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 6: game on TV right now because you want to see

1389
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 6: what's going to happen. You knew the script with Jake Browning.

1390
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 6: We've seen it for two consecutive The guy's thrown eight

1391
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 6: interceptions since he's been in the lineup, So now there's

1392
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 6: somewhat hope. Right, So you want to see you're curious now.

1393
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no question about it.

1394
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 2: You know what else is interesting that I've just gleaned

1395
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 2: and maybe it just occurred to me. I just finally

1396
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: came out from under my rock from the last thirty

1397
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 2: years or so. Andy, But now, if the Reds were

1398
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 2: still in the playoffs, we obviously would be still talking

1399
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 2: about baseball. But the second that football establishes itself, which

1400
01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 2: is like the first week of real games, baseball all

1401
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 2: no matter who's playing, takes a back seat in the

1402
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 2: national consciousness. And I can't even tell you what's happening

1403
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 2: in the playoffs right now. I've paid no attention and

1404
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 2: I don't care. Do you think that's true of a

1405
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 2: lot of people.

1406
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 6: There's a threefold interest in that. Number One, every game

1407
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 6: means so much because they only play once a week.

1408
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 3: That's great. Number Two, people just love the game because it's.

1409
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 6: A he man's game and men love it. You know,

1410
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 6: it's brute, it's bruteful. And number three the gambling aspect.

1411
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 6: It's a perfect game for gambling. And number four, I

1412
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:32,679
Speaker 6: want to throw a fourth.

1413
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 3: We're in there.

1414
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 6: There's no better game make for television and football.

1415
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 3: None.

1416
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 6: Well, it's the best game in the world for television football.

1417
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 6: So you talk about, you know, owning it. You know,

1418
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 6: I see the National Football League is the number one

1419
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 6: sport spectator viewership whatever it may be in the US

1420
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 6: of A, maybe worldwide, and number two one a perhaps

1421
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 6: it's college football. And you're so right about, you know,

1422
01:23:56,640 --> 01:24:00,879
Speaker 6: baseball not being there, not being forgotten because football, National

1423
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,759
Speaker 6: Football League, football or college football, they are national sports,

1424
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 6: where baseball has become.

1425
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 3: A regional sport.

1426
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 6: If your home team is not in it, you don't

1427
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 6: really care. How about one step further, you know, during

1428
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 6: the summertime I was watching the w NBA. They owned

1429
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 6: the set of stage. There was nothing going on. It

1430
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 6: was baseball. Really, there was baseball, but no one really

1431
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 6: cared about a baseball game in the middle of July,

1432
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 6: where really it's somewhat meaningless. You go for enjoyment, you

1433
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 6: don't go for rooting interest.

1434
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 3: That's what you do.

1435
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't with you on the WNBA, and.

1436
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 6: Ye once no, I'm making a comparison. Once the football

1437
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 6: season started, the w NBA went the playoffs, I had

1438
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 6: no idea what's going on. I have no idea. They're

1439
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 6: still in the playoffs. I think it's Las Vegas against

1440
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,759
Speaker 6: UH Phoenix. I think in the playoffs for the WNBA.

1441
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 6: I don't even know. I have no idea what. I

1442
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 6: don't care, and I don't care.

1443
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 2: It's late and I shouldn't say this, but if I

1444
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 2: had any interest in watching women bounce balls, it wouldn't

1445
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 2: be the WNBA that I'd be watching.

1446
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:58,759
Speaker 1: Okay, that's all I'm saying.

1447
01:24:58,840 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 5: I'm not going to argue about that.

1448
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 6: I enjoy the brand of the basketball that play, I really do.

1449
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 3: And I told you in the past.

1450
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 6: I told about the Indianapolis or to Bloomington, Indiana, when

1451
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 6: Caitlyn Clark was playing by I want to see Iowa

1452
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 6: play Indiana because I wanted them to see our play.

1453
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,759
Speaker 2: I love Caitlyn Clark, I love I will never demean

1454
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 2: the lost ye can Clark.

1455
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 5: Yep.

1456
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 2: But what I was saying is, I mean major League

1457
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 2: Baseball right now is playing to find out who's going

1458
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 2: to be in the championship in the World Series, which

1459
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 2: used to be the biggest thing in America. And you're right,

1460
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 2: the advent of gambling and it's everywhere. The advent of

1461
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 2: television kind of tuned baseball and set them in a

1462
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,759
Speaker 2: back seat, especially when the NFL starts seeming.

1463
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 6: I want to continue that conversation with you for a

1464
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 6: second because I want to know why and when that changed,

1465
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 6: because I can remember specifically as a kid and the

1466
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:00,560
Speaker 6: US nineteen sixty and the Yankees were playing the Pittsburgh

1467
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 6: Pirates in the World Series, and I was in my

1468
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 6: backyard with my buddies and we were playing stickball whatever

1469
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,719
Speaker 6: it may be. In Brooklyn, we had a big backyard.

1470
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 6: We played ball in there all the time. And I know,

1471
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 6: I think someone told me or whatever it was, that

1472
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 6: Bill Mazeroski hit a home run or for Ralph Terry,

1473
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 6: I think it was, and they they won the game,

1474
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 6: and the Yankees lost the World Series.

1475
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 5: I was depressed.

1476
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 3: I was devastated.

1477
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 6: And that was in September and I didn't even care

1478
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,640
Speaker 6: about I didn't no idea football was being played there.

1479
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 6: I mean, so when did it change and how did

1480
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 6: it change. I'm sure people gambled on football back then.

1481
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 6: It wasn't legalized like it is now where you can

1482
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 6: make a bet on your phone, But how and why

1483
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 6: did it change? I don't get it lost everything.

1484
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 2: I'm going to charge you with a task, and I

1485
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 2: don't know if you'll be up to it because it'll

1486
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 2: be late like it is tonight. But on Saturday night,

1487
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 2: I have another nightcap from nine to midnight, a special

1488
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 2: Saturday Nightcap. And one of my guests is a guy

1489
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 2: named Ken Belson who's written this book called every Day

1490
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:06,520
Speaker 2: Is Sunday and.

1491
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 1: And and get this.

1492
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 2: The subtitle is how Jerry Jones, Robert Kraft, and Roger

1493
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 2: Goodell turned the NFL into a cultural and economic juggernaut.

1494
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 1: I think it happened before that.

1495
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 3: But I agree, Yeah, yeah, so O take the credit.

1496
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 1: For it, though of course they will, wouldn't you.

1497
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I always do.

1498
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 1: Andy. This is this is good.

1499
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco behind center with the Cincinnati Bengals, and the

1500
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 2: road to the playoffs has been reopened.

1501
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: Right.

1502
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 6: I would hope that that Joe Flacco and that contractual

1503
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 6: deal on the trade took us Kyrol practor with him.

1504
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 2: He's gonna need it. Andy, thank you so much, a

1505
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 2: great night. Thanks the fur

1506
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 1: Ball on the night Cap on seven hundred WLW