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Speaker 2: Hey, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: Hey. I want to say that Grace was a great

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Speaker 3: job of analysis. She is absolutely right. Pete Heckstaff is

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Speaker 3: an imbecile. I told you way back when that Ron

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Speaker 3: DeSantis was the right choice for the Secretary of been

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Speaker 3: Defense now war and this, this just proves my point.

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Speaker 1: Now the sorry Patrick, if you don't mind me asking,

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Speaker 1: the NSA by any chance? Are you? Are you listening

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Speaker 1: in on my dinner conversations with Grace, because that's all

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Speaker 1: she's been telling me now for the last three freaking weeks,

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Speaker 1: that Descent this would have been perfect for secretary of Defense.

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Speaker 1: right now. But anyway, I'm like, whoa, Patrick, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Are you? Are you deep state? By any chance? All right, anyway,

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Speaker 3: So when you look at the geopolitical test board now

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Speaker 3: When Trump left office, we had China surrounded, We had

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Speaker 2: So I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm against the steal because if you are, if you

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Speaker 1: No, actually another is Patrick, without you know, as you

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Speaker 1: you very much for that call. Uh huh, best audience

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Speaker 1: they've now sent out a video on state media. Quote

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Speaker 1: someone like us will never come to terms with someone

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Speaker 4: Well, that's a little unfair because I had things to say,

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Speaker 4: You know, squeamish people. So in my opinion, he did

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Speaker 4: the midterms were coming. So because he did it anyway

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Speaker 4: I'm a three time vote Trump voter and I trust him.

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Speaker 4: I voted for him three times because I trust him.

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Speaker 4: And as far as Pete goes, I mean, Pete's brilliant.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, look, there's no question. I mean he's only

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Speaker 2: Need to go up against your wife. You gotta be

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Speaker 1: Frank, hold on, hold on, hold on, you sound like

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Speaker 1: All right, let's see if we can reconnect with Frank.

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Speaker 1: Do we have Frank back? Frank?

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Speaker 2: Can you hear me now?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Just sound like a person again. All right, keep going, Frank.

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Speaker 2: All right, So I don't have a camera, so're gonna

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Speaker 2: this here? We're getting confused here? What is Trump's purpose?

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Speaker 2: He's going in all guns? Why if you look back

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Speaker 2: in his history, he's been studying Adolph Hitler And what's

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Speaker 2: How come we can't get things done. Well, let's see,

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Speaker 2: What happened when we walked away? They gained power and

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Speaker 2: the previous presidents. What do we make? We're making money?

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Speaker 2: What is the difference between this president and old presidents?

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Speaker 2: Old presidents make money? So what does that sound to me?

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Speaker 2: Let's see, they stole all our money. They made money

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Speaker 2: for profit. Sounds like the United States of America doesn't

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Speaker 2: So what does he do? What has he been saying?

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Speaker 2: I have the best weaponry in the world over and

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Speaker 2: over to see us if we're awake, how we wake?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: What did he do when he first got in? I

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Speaker 2: do believe he made Clinton steal false information on weaponry

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Speaker 2: believe didn't he go to Iraq? Yes he did. I

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Speaker 2: Trump in secrecy. And what he did he do from

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Speaker 2: all we understood is we had this conversation.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, when did he go to Iraq in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five earlier than that.

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Speaker 2: Earlier that when he's first coming into office? You mean

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, fourteen early, yes, sir, yes, so thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry from all over the map, and I had

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Speaker 2: we remember, of course now because we got in so

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Speaker 2: many other subjects. He undid that while he was there.

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Speaker 2: From what I understand, he looked at the troops. All

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Speaker 2: With Terry Base I apologized.

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Speaker 1: Frankly, sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't understand what you're trying to say. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: thank you for the call. Frank Maria in Ludlow, I

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Speaker 1: guy saying Maria in Ludlow, thanks for holding Maria and welcome.

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Speaker 5: Hi Jess, good morning. How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm good. How are you Maria?

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Speaker 2: Tired?

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Speaker 5: I hope. Mister Trump, if you're listening to me, your

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Speaker 5: people are listening to me, finish this up. We started

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Speaker 5: this up. Let's finish this up. Let's not leave this regime,

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Speaker 5: terrorize the Iranian people. I know the Iranian people need

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Speaker 5: thirteen lives have been lost. They continue to kill people.

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Speaker 5: We need to go in there and finish up and

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Speaker 5: walk away with victory. There is no negotiation. I'm one

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Speaker 5: thousand percent against this negotiation. We do not negotiate with terrorists.

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Speaker 5: It's always been a fact in the Americans never to

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Speaker 5: negotiate with you with any sort of terrorism. So mister Trump,

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Speaker 5: don't do any deal. Peter Access, whatever you say his name,

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Speaker 5: you need to take a step back, regroup and do

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Speaker 5: patient and draw blood. You have no idea what you're doing.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure he has all this backgrounds, but he's not

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Speaker 5: part of the administration. He shouldn't be doing any deals

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Speaker 5: or going to voice his opinion in any way, shape

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Speaker 5: or form. So I voted for mister Trump all this time.

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Speaker 5: I will continue to back him up. He's not a

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Speaker 5: stupid man, but no deal should be made. Go in there,

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Speaker 5: clean house and finish this up. Make it count and

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Speaker 5: that's it, and come home and do what you need

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Speaker 1: Well, Maria, I think the Mulla's I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: he Trump tried the diplomatic approach. Now, you know, I

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Speaker 1: I gave them an off ramp. You know this is

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Speaker 1: from you know, you get to survive sanctions are lifted

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Speaker 1: and we both control the strait up hormouse. That's not

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Speaker 1: a bad deal if you're the Mullas. Now they're slapping

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