1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Broncos Country tonight coming up at the top of the 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: our grand Is it going to be you and Nick? 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Very good? Any mystery guests? No, we actually prepared for 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: the show What a Ripoff? So listeners tune in for 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: the Thursday Night Mystery Guests and just what a rip 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: actually is one at seven thirty. 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 3: Okay, there we go. 8 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: It's exciting. 9 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: The difference is he actually knows the mystery guests versus 10 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: you try to move the goalposts here. 11 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: You it really is a guest. I feel like, all right, 12 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: welcome back. Who we got. 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: Anyways, we'll get into a little bit more expansive conversation 14 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: about the college fotball playoff come up in a bit. 15 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: We'll get Dave's official pick for this game. 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: Since he's being a little coy with me, what what 17 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: his lean is? He's been, Uh. 18 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: Why do we make those picks? 19 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll be ready. 20 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: Okay, No, no, I know you will. You said you 21 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: had to pick the entire time. 22 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 4: By the way, off the topic. Sure, I just saw 23 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 4: your boss. Okay, she is okayed the handstand, I'm sure 24 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 4: she has she has? What did you what did she say? 25 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 4: What did you say? 26 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: Said? She goes? Do you think Ryan would hurt himself. 27 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 4: I said, no, I said, she said, he said, okay, 28 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 4: then it's okay. Well, but she said, make sure he 29 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 4: doesn't get hurt. I said, of course, of course. We've 30 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 4: got a videotape this for liability purposes. So I think, 31 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 4: you know, maybe today, maybe tomorrow, Maybe today, maybe tomorrow, 32 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 4: maybe never. 33 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: I mentioned I mentioned our conversation to my wife, and 34 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: she said, I am grateful you did not follow through 35 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: with that. 36 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 4: That was wife, Yes, doesn't believe you can do a handstand. 37 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: She well, now he has to prove it, prove his masculine. 38 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: Is that what I have to do? I mean as 39 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: a man, as a man, as a man. Yeah, she said, no, 40 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: I told you she did. I listen. 41 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: I told you last night that my wife would unequivocally 42 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: not be supportive of it. 43 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: I told you that what's the reason pain an injury? 44 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: And I told you so, and she doesn't want to 45 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: do any of it. Pain is just weakness leaving the body. 46 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, who said that? 47 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: Who's that? From? 48 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: My drill sergeant? And uh basic George, plenty of people, 49 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 1: George Patten, that's like it's famous. I just don't don't 50 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: know what Okay, so I'm sorry to let you and 51 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: our boss down again. 52 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 3: Well, we'll see. We have some time. 53 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: Oh, we're in a will see, we have some time, 54 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: will see. 55 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 4: I'm I'm not there yet, but I'm close to making 56 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 4: it a mission, okay, to get you to do a handstand. 57 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 4: And if I get to the point where then I'm 58 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 4: gonna make it a mission. It's gonna happen. 59 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: We're gonna have to do the handstand. 60 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: It's like. 61 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 3: Gonna happen. I'll help you. 62 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: Okay, So we don't do today. We're not doing consents 63 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: with this. This is this is a mission. 64 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 4: I don't have to be consent. Okay, you're part of 65 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 4: the team. You're literally lobbing it up for the bit. 66 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 3: If the team does a handstand, well then you're part 67 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: of the team. Right. 68 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 2: Okay, Well it Ben does it first, then I'll do. 69 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 3: You could do it. 70 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: Dang it. You were supposed to wing man. Here, I'm 71 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 2: hanging you out to drive. 72 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: You're absolutely hanging me out to the OTF with me 73 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: buddy out there flapping. BID's gonna make his predictions on 74 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: who's gonna be the head coaches. He's our NFL insider. 75 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: He's gonna make this predictions on who gave me the 76 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: head coach for these eight openings. But I wanted to 77 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: ask you guys about Juliu McLoughlin for a moment, because 78 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: interesting stuff from Nick Cosmidor. He was going over the 79 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: numbers before JK dobbins injury and after, and of course 80 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: there's been a precipitous drop off for the running as 81 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: we know. 82 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you were, you were a. 83 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: Top five rushing attack with JK Dobbins and now you 84 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: were I think twenty fourth or something along those lines. 85 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: You're averaging like three point eight yards per carry as 86 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: a team now Julium McLoughlin. Meanwhile, in the ten games, 87 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: uh sorry, since week eleven. Since week eleven, he is 88 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: tenth among all running backs with five point two yards 89 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: per carry. Then him of thirty five carries, that's literally 90 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: more than JK was averaging per carry, by the way 91 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: it is, it is, but not mucho point two per carry, 92 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: point one per cary, whatever it is. 93 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: He is only. 94 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: On the field for three pass pro reps in that time. 95 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: So my question is, okay, well, those numbers are very impressive, 96 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: but also are you tipping your hand a little bit 97 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: when Julie McLoughlin's in the game. I mean he's five 98 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: eight my weight, dude, Like, yeah, you're tipping your hand 99 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: as far as you know. You see me out there 100 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: looking at Max Crosby coming in my direction. 101 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: We don't have to make this about you or talking 102 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: about Jellimagloss, just trying to give you an idea of 103 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: the physics of this. 104 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: It's just like when Phil Lindsay was here, man, I 105 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: mean you kind of you knew you didn't want him 106 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: out there trying to pass par against you know, Joey Bosa. 107 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: You are tipping your hand a little bit with that 108 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: as far as it goes. But but I think the 109 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: other thing to look at here is when Jalia McLoughlin 110 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: is out there with the ball in his hands. He 111 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: is a much more instinctive patient running back than R. J. 112 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: Hard Arje Harve's a better pass catcher, Arge Harves a 113 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: better pass protector, but R. J. 114 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: Harvey's only been a running back for like four years. 115 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: Julia McLoughlin is the college all time leading running back 116 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: and understands. 117 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: I mean you can just see it. 118 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: You can see the patients, you can see the instincts 119 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: when you running a ball. 120 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: He hasn't had double digit carries yet this season. 121 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think Juliel with his skill set, 122 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 4: brings something that you want to try to take advantage of. 123 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 4: As Ben said, the balance of it is when he's 124 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 4: in the game, you know teams are thinking he's getting 125 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 4: the ball. So how many times can you have him 126 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: in the game on a third down or second down 127 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 4: when you're absolutely gonna throw it and you want to 128 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 4: run a protection scheme that calls for your back to 129 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 4: be a part of How many times do you want 130 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: to do that? Let's just say, well not many. Okay, 131 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 4: So when he's in the game second down, if you 132 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 4: have eliminated some of those throws that the back is 133 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 4: part of the protection, what are you gonna do. You're 134 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 4: gonna release the back and release five and block with five. 135 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 4: That's an issue in terms of when teams start to 136 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 4: pressure you, you're gonna have a tight end of the 137 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: game and keep the tight end in and then release. 138 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 4: There's you know, there's all sorts of formulas and things 139 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 4: you can do, but Sjohn's got. 140 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: To balance. 141 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: That. 142 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 4: Jaliel I think is one of or he's as explosive 143 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: a player as they have, so we want to have 144 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 4: him in the game and get the ball to him. 145 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 3: And you got to balance. 146 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 4: Those ideas with he's one hundred and let's say eighty 147 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: five pounds and when teams than they can with the 148 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 4: alignment force the back to stay in at times, or 149 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 4: if you release the back all the time, you limit 150 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: what you can do in terms of concepts, and it 151 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 4: limits the passing offense. So there's a balance it any way. 152 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 4: You want to do it and try to come up 153 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 4: with the best formula. 154 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: So would you give him knowing that. 155 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: You want to be able to run the ball better 156 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: in the postseason, which we talk about all the time, 157 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,559 Speaker 1: would you give him more tick? 158 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 4: I think you have to carve out time for him 159 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,119 Speaker 4: because he's been extremely productive when he gets his hands 160 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: on the ball. You've seen formations now where both both 161 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 4: McLoughlin and Harvey are in the game. You can line 162 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 4: up Harvey as a wide receiver because he's got really 163 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 4: terrific ability to catch the ball. And I wouldn't be 164 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 4: surprised to see something unique when the Broncos next play 165 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 4: with both those guys in the game, and something we 166 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 4: haven't seen. That's one of the advantages. 167 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: Of a full week off. 168 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 4: Coaches get to sit in dark rooms and look at 169 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 4: stuff and say, yeah, okay, but what if we do this. 170 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 4: There's only so many hours in the day during the week, 171 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: and coaches are spending you know, eighty plus hours a 172 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 4: week trying to find that little edge of something. Well, now, 173 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 4: can you imagine you give them a week off. The 174 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: players had a few days off, they come to practice tomorrow. 175 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 4: I promise you the coaches have not had four days off. 176 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: I'd like to see RJ used a little bit more 177 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: like Sean used. 178 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: To lose Reggie Bush, you know, and like you said, 179 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: split out there catching a ball at his strengths and 180 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: you used to lead a little more as a traditional 181 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: running back. 182 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 3: I just might see it. 183 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see it. 184 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: Would you give them double digit touches, I'd probably get 185 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: him closer to ten and see where we're at. 186 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but maybally seven of that. 187 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: Some of that's gonna be situational too, like, because you 188 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: put him in there again, you're either running a Mart's 189 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: offense where everybody's out you know, there's nobody back there protecting, 190 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: or you're you know, you're tipping your hand on what 191 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: you're going to do so unless you're running gun two 192 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: back or something like that. You you know, it's it's tough. 193 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: You got to manufacture those touches for Markoff. 194 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: That's the difference. Yeah, that's what it kind of feels 195 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: like for me. 196 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: I mean Agains, seeing those numbers five point two yards 197 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: per carry, top ten running back, You're kind of like, 198 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: oh man, more first down work is what I would do. Okay, 199 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: so maybe earlier in the game. 200 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: And he started the last he started the last last one. 201 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah, So I mean maybe maybe 202 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: there's a view of that anyways. 203 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: Inside. 204 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean it's I'm probably not giving a numbers that 205 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: Sean Payton doesn't know, right it's there now, he's like, 206 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: huh Edwards on the staff, I get him over here 207 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: right now. 208 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: That's interesting genius he is? He in football mensa. That's good. 209 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: And it's not to say because because R J. Harvey 210 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: obviously is very explosive back. But maybe as we've watched R. J. 211 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: Harvey's numbers, which he almost gets double digit carries almost 212 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: every single game, maybe you flip that. 213 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 2: But again, I wouldn't count on that. You don't think 214 00:09:58,679 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: that's gonna happen. 215 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: No, okay, I mean I. 216 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 4: Think I think Harvey. I may I may think Harvey. 217 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: I may think Harvey's upside is a little bit better 218 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: than others. I think he's developed quite a bit this year, 219 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 4: and especially after JK went down, and I think he's 220 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 4: a guy he's got enough power and balance so you 221 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: can run in between the tackles. He's hard to get 222 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 4: on the ground. He's still you can tell at times 223 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 4: he's still a relatively inexperienced back because he does stuff 224 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 4: and you're like, Okay, I mean you might want to 225 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: do this or so you're going to have some of 226 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 4: those moments. 227 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: But he's dangerous. 228 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 4: I think he is the toughest player to get on 229 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 4: the ground for the Broncos that they currently have on 230 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 4: the roster that is healthy. He's hard to tackle, so 231 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 4: I wouldn't I wouldn't think the Broncos would just sort 232 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 4: of move away a little bit from him to get 233 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 4: Jaliel a lot more carries. 234 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: I just think he said a little bit more and 235 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: I think RJ. It goes back to again, RJ is 236 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: still developing though as a runner. 237 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 2: I think he's a phenomenal pass catcher. 238 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: I think he's still developing as a runner, and you 239 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: can kind of see the instinctive difference where Archie will 240 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: do something like bounce it outside or he runs right 241 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: in the back of a guard and you look at Jalil. 242 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: Let him can't develop, you know? Yeah, so, and. 243 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 4: Jalil's the quickest back they have in terms of putting 244 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: his foot in the ground and making a decision. 245 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 2: I had that third gear that Harvey has, but he's 246 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: got that first. 247 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 3: And second gear. It sure does all right. 248 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: So we'll get to some college football playof suff here 249 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: in a second. But Ben, Yeah, I want to ask you. 250 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: I want you to call your shot. 251 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: People are tweeting in asking us for you to call 252 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: your shot with these head coach openings. 253 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: I'll give you. 254 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: I'll give you the guys I think are in play. 255 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: We'll go from there. 256 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's interviewing a bunch of guys, but you know, 257 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: I mean hardballs, everybody's dream candidate. I don't think he's 258 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: really I don't think he's really considering a lot of 259 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: those jobs. 260 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: I think there's you know, a couple of them. Do 261 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: you just want to call the job out and go 262 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: from there? Yeah, that's what it's thinking. 263 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean that we call it out and then Dave 264 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: would critique you and tell you how wrong you. 265 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 4: Are call out call out names or franchises. Yeah, Cleveland rounds. 266 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz, I think he's the main guy there. 267 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: That financial expression, I hate. 268 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 4: He's nothing against Jim. 269 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that look. I know you hate me, 270 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: don't you know? 271 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: Look at looking at their search. 272 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: Their search is frankly right now has been ridiculous. I mean, 273 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: you're you're looking at guys nobody else is looking at 274 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: uh eight dirday. 275 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: Uh. 276 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: They're bringing a Mike McDaniel for a head coaching interview. 277 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: The damn Pitcher. 278 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: You know they're they're they're interview guys nobody else's interview 279 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: and which I mean fair with Pitcher. He's a division rival. 280 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: You want to get some intel. Cool, but Pitcher is 281 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: not really going to be their next head coach. They're 282 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: interview both Tommy Reese, who has no experience and basically 283 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: would be the same staff Jim Schwartz, same thing. 284 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: Although Jim has experience. 285 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: I believe Jim Schwartz is probably gonna wind up with 286 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: that job just just the fact though, Hey, I've been 287 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: wrong before, I'll be wrong again, my if I had 288 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: to guess right now, put money out of Jim Schwartz. 289 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, A little bow knicks right there. What was that. 290 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 3: I've been booed before. I'll be booed again. 291 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: I mean, you know that's good. So so that was 292 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: I'm the overdog first. 293 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 3: What your reaction was? Great? 294 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, my god, blim are Ravens. That's a tough one. 295 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 4: I believe that there. 296 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: I believe that jesse Mentor is probably first in line 297 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: there with Cliff Kingsbury's OC. You know, they're they're doing 298 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: extensive work on Vans Joseph. They're the crown jewel job, 299 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: you know, where everybody else is kind of doing all 300 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: these auditions and everything. Baltimore's picking a few guys and 301 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: they're going. 302 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: To pick you kind of thing. 303 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: They've got that, They've got the organizational stability, they've got 304 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback, they've got all that stuff. They have advantages 305 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: in travicks nobody else does. I do believe jesse Mentor 306 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: will be the main guy in play there. Kevin Stefanski maybe, 307 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: but I don't think that's the direction they're going to go. 308 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: I saw some things out there about pairying somebody with 309 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. 310 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: But I guess you're right. From an overall, santy. 311 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: Berry would be the guy that they would pair, and 312 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: they ran out to interview him right away. Now he's 313 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: interviewing technically for head coach, but I think he's really 314 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: interviewing for OC. 315 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, that's interesting. Jesse Mentzer that is a red 316 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: hot name. 317 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: I think they want to fix the defense. I think 318 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: that's what they want it, you know, that's what they 319 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: were Where else would he be? 320 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: Miami? 321 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: Miami would be the other if they don't. If Miami 322 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: doesn't get Harball, who would be head on their list? 323 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: Jesse Mentor would be number two for them. Vance Joseph 324 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: would being played on there as well, But I think 325 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: Mintor and I think Harball would be one and two 326 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: there in Miami. I guess, Dave, that's great news for 327 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: the Broncos because Mentor has been really good there with 328 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: the Chargers. 329 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's I mean, he's a he's a really good coach. 330 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 4: I've not heard Mentor in terms of actually being a 331 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 4: viable head coach. Maybe maybe maybe he takes one of 332 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 4: these jobs, or maybe he gets one of them offered. 333 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 4: The Baltimore thing would make sense because that's where he 334 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 4: came from. 335 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 3: So we'll see. 336 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: We'll see. How about the Titans. I think it's gonna 337 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: be Matt Naggy. You know, I was talking with Kansas City, Yeah, 338 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: I think I was. I was talking with somebody that 339 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: Mike Kafka might get some run there. Art Smith is 340 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: going to come in there and interview. Of course, he's 341 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: former offensive coordinator there and now he's offensive coordate at 342 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Hill interview there. But I think Matt Naggy's going 343 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: to get the job just by virtue of the relationship 344 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: with Mike Borkanzi. I saw somewhere earlier today, Dave that 345 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: Kansas City pretty much is saying goodbye to Matt nag 346 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: either way. So I guess this is like either he 347 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: goes there or he's he's pretty much. 348 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: I also saw something that Eric the Enemy might be 349 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 4: in play back there. 350 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: Really they want they want. It's not about Eric Banamy's 351 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: ex's and os either. It's about him and having somebody 352 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: on that offensive staff that holds people accountable. And Eric 353 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: the Enemy is absolutely that dude. He's currently the running 354 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: backs coach at Chicago. I don't care much for it. 355 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: The Enemy the offensive coordinator, play caller. I mean, we 356 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: saw Washington how bad that can be. But I do 357 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: love him as that guy, that coach in the locker room, 358 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: that holds people accountable, and I don't think they have 359 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: that on the offensive side of the ball. And in 360 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: the Kansas City staff right now, Falcons they want they 361 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: want to be in the Harboll Stefanski sweep Steaks. I 362 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: think that's their one and two. But I will say 363 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: that that kid Kubiak up there in Seattle is very 364 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: much in play for that job. So they want to 365 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: go offense, yeah, and they need to figure that out. 366 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: I think Koobiak and the connection here. Rick Smith, the 367 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: former general manager of the Houston Texans, is currently employed 368 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: by a search firm called Sportsology, which Atlanta has hired 369 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: to work on that. So I would not be surprised 370 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: if if Clint Kubiak was, at the end of the 371 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: day wound up at being the head coach there at Planta. 372 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: Is he in for anything else anywhere else? Ian cunninghamis gentlemen. 373 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: I haven't seen his name. 374 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,359 Speaker 1: He's getting He's got a few other interview opportunities, including Arizona. 375 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: I just don't think he's gonna take the Arizona job. 376 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the one that the leftovers take, 377 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, and that thing saying he's not he doesn't 378 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: have to do that. 379 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: So what about Arizona. Well, there's several people in play here. 380 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised to see Arthur Smith and 381 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy will get interviews. Halfley, I'll get an interview. 382 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: Vans Joseph I think he's in play there in Arizona. 383 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: But that's that's kind of differybody's backup plan. I think 384 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: everybody knows what Michael bidwells as an owner. You've got 385 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: to figure out the quarterback situation. You're probably punting on Kyler. 386 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: There are some pieces, there's some bones there in Arizona. 387 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: But again, you've got an owner that's one of the 388 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: worst owners in football. He's cheap and it's it's a 389 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: tough sell. So who's it gonna be esctually in that division? 390 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you said like five names. If 391 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: I had a guess out of those names, if you're 392 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: going to be. 393 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: An insider, be an insider. 394 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: Well, I mean these guys are interviewed for multiple jobs. 395 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you could you know, like. 396 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: I'm an outside and give you five names. 397 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 2: Vance is very much to play for the Raiders. 398 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: I think if you're Vance, Joseph, I think you have 399 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: three serious contenders in York Giants where you're the third 400 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: place guy, and then the Raiders in Arizona. And I think, 401 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, it just depends on who can sell you 402 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: based on what you got there. I think the Raiders 403 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: job is more desirable personally, but you know, I think 404 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: Vance is probably going to take one of those two jobs. 405 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: That is, I mean that's a tough division. I mean 406 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: not NFC West. Well, both those are tough to be 407 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: AFCNFC West. I know, I know what I was just 408 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: saying for the Cardinals, Like you, which division would you say, 409 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: if you're considering Cardinals or Raiders, which this division is 410 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: tougher to go into? 411 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 4: Well, division right now, I would say the NFC West too, 412 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 4: But I think between those two jobs, those two jobs, 413 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 4: I'd want to know who's going to be the corequarterback 414 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 4: in Arizona. 415 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: The other side of this is the coaches in the 416 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: NFC West or quarterback. 417 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: Raiders is not even in the league yet. 418 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: Right well, they might be, they might not, They might 419 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: punt on that one pick. 420 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: I don't think Mendoza More. 421 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 3: Who's the quarterback that's in the league that will be 422 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: the starting quarterback for the Raiders. Murray. 423 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 4: Wow, I had not heard that nor thought a minute 424 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 4: of it. I'm still not completely out on Kyler Murray. 425 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, there and there are a change of scenery. 426 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 4: He's I think he's got he's still got some he's 427 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: got last spots. 428 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: I'll give you an interesting win during the break that 429 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: plays some tic tac toe with that. But I will 430 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: say this, I am not one hundred percent that the 431 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: Raiders are going to use that number one pick on 432 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 1: either More or Mendoza. And I will say that everybody 433 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: I've talked to has a much lower grade on those 434 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: two guys than quarterbacks in the recent and you know, 435 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: top guys in the recent classes. 436 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: Quarterbacks has it go like Rvel Reese or something. 437 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: I think if you're if you're the Raiders, you look 438 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: for somebody that's absolutely desperate, and you train out of 439 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: that pick. I think you multiply your picks and you 440 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: try to have all the amo you can for arch 441 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: manning the next year. Use a bridge quarterback and you 442 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: are you are firmly committed to building your roster out 443 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: and trying to get on the arch Manning sweepstakes. 444 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: When you can. 445 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: We thought it was kind of a funny moment with 446 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: Daniel Lawski, who I guess yesterday or this morning or 447 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: something said that well, harch Vanny was in this draft, 448 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: that would be the pick. They would already have it 449 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: basically again, he would be like far and away, Okay, 450 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: so maybe there will be some positioning for next year there. 451 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: I believe that you'll, I mean, you could see the 452 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: Raiders and Jets try to find suckers to come up 453 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: and get those picks. Wow, okay, we hit giants that 454 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: they want Harball obviously, and they're they're trying to make 455 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: a run that. 456 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: I don't think he wants that job. I think he 457 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: wants Miami, So I think you're. 458 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: Gonna wind up trying to convince Kevin Stefanski to take 459 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: that job. 460 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: If he doesn't, then Vance Joseph. And they've certainly done 461 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: a lot of work on Vance. 462 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: In fact, they even brought not only Vance, they brought 463 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: Web and Rizzy in for interviews on that. 464 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: So that should kind of tell you. 465 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: Joe Shane of course worked with Vans down in Miami, 466 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: the current defensive coordinator there with the Giants, who Advances 467 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: his mentor, was his mentor in Arizona. There's a lot 468 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: of connections there. If they don't get their top two guys. 469 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: How do you like that fit for VJ up there 470 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: in New York. 471 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: I think it would be because they've been so bad. 472 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 3: I think it would be a good job. 473 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: If you if you like your quarterback, if you think 474 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 4: that young kid is going to be a guy. I 475 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 4: think the the expectations of the fan base. I mean, 476 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 4: if you went in there and and became a five 477 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 4: hundred team, which based on their defense, I would think 478 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 4: they'd have a chance. I mean, you're gonna you're gonna 479 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 4: have an okay year. I will say this. 480 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: Davis Webb, who would be the preferred offensive coordinator there, 481 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: obviously played under and four Brian Dable. He would know 482 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: the language already for Jackson Dart. He could call Brian 483 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: Dable get his assessment of all that kind of stuff. 484 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: So there's kind of another connection there in terms of 485 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: that that you know there in the ether that you 486 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: could get a good lay of and figured it out. 487 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: I think Vance would be perfect for that. 488 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 3: Roster. 489 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: My question is is advance good for that market? It's 490 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: a good point. All right, Thank you, Ben, appreciate it. 491 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: We'll be right back on k I'm trying to take 492 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: the ka outsideer title from Dave. Somebody did text that 493 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: in all KAA and NFL outsider Dave Logan. 494 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: Oh, I was hating that term too. 495 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: Inside. 496 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 4: No's like, what do I inside up like, you know, 497 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 4: like you're supposed to have like that information. 498 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 2: I guess intel, okay, all right? And I was like, 499 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: what am I? 500 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm not standing inside the George Payton's office right now 501 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: to behind a tree. You know, well, but why aren't you? 502 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: That's really the question I think everybody wants to know. 503 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: Why are you not standing next to the tree? 504 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: I got I got too fat to hide behind the fighters. 505 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: Oh boy, well, let's all those sold. 506 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: Coffee truffle whoever put those out there trying to crush 507 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: my diet, your diet, Chad Bauer out there. 508 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 2: You've been wrong before. Double jujit Miami win. 509 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: Remember a couple of years ago, I'll treat you to 510 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: the tofu dinner of your choice. Remember a couple of 511 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 1: years ago when we did our college football championship and 512 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: you were crowing. I can't even remember that. I think 513 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: it was Georgia or something. You you were telling me, Oh, 514 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: you are so wrong about that. Literally went to and oh, 515 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: but that's okay. Couldn't you don't remember that at all? Yeah, 516 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: I'll be wrong again. Sounds like fiction to me. But 517 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: the standings right now, days four and two, I'm three 518 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: and three, been congratulations getting gone one five and be 519 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: rough to me this year mixed to and four. 520 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: So this is uh, this is. 521 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: A this is a big time. So you got Miami tonight, Dave. 522 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: Now we'll get your official pick for the game tomorrow. 523 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: You got Miami going to the National Championship. How do 524 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: you feel about Miami winning it all? Which won't tip 525 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: your hand. 526 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think they've got an excellent chance. 527 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I really do, I really do. They can do. 528 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 4: They can do. They can do something that that I think, 529 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 4: as I look at football, is really important. They can 530 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 4: run the ball with a big back that can pick 531 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 4: up yardage Onny's own from time to time, and they 532 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 4: can stop the run. I would pull for I've got 533 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 4: a player playing on Oregon, so I'm pulling. I'm pulling 534 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 4: for Oregon. Tomorrow night. I think Indiana is an easy 535 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 4: team to root for because they've never never been this far. 536 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 4: So I'm I'm excited to see tonight and tomorrow. 537 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 1: Why do you like Miamis and I've been, Well, they're 538 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: much better defense. They're more physical than All Miss. They 539 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: are they and the off the drives that they put 540 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: together on offense, they take time consuming drives, They spell 541 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: their own defense, they're excellent on third down, and they're 542 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: just more physical than All Miss. A bot of you 543 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: guys that were this late in the season on these things. 544 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how else you'd fix it. 545 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: But I saw some people growsing on Twitter about, well, 546 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: you know we're we're January seventh here, so the eighth 547 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: tomorrow for the other college football playoff, and then we 548 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: go wait till the next Monday, so we're like a 549 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: week and a half out from the championship. 550 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 4: Know it's I mean, listen, it's it's all about TV. 551 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 4: The NFL is all about TV college football same way, 552 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 4: and so television is gonna set that thing up to 553 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 4: try to draw as many people like us to to 554 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 4: watch the games. 555 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 3: So get used to it because it's not going to 556 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 3: change on a Monday too. 557 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: I feel myself coming down with something already. Do you 558 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: just after the Broncos came just. 559 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: You have the worst immune system of anybody I've ever 560 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: known built in excuse here, I know you've already You've 561 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: already set this got the black love pop. The bar 562 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: has already been set forbid. 563 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 2: Stop licking doobs. 564 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, stop liking Dordobs as as our boss by say. 565 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: That was it? 566 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: I I like I told you earlier this week, Dave. 567 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: I think both these teams are a lot of fun 568 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: to watch. I'm excited about this game, excited about Tomorti's game. 569 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: I could roof for quite literally any of them. I 570 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: think there's really good storyline. The only thing for me 571 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: is all miss is just again the Lane Kiffin storyline 572 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: here and the fact that this team performed the way 573 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: they did this last week, the best game of the 574 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: of last weekend of the that round, semi final round. 575 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 3: No, I agree, I think that. 576 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 4: I mean, if, if, if Mississippi wins tonight, the the 577 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin sort of narrative continues. But I think the 578 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 4: thing that makes Mississippi such a cool story as the quarterback. 579 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 4: I mean, this kid right played at Farris State last year. 580 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's had a journey in college football 581 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 4: and to see where he is now and how well 582 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 4: he played last week against Georgia, I mean he was 583 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 4: the reason that Mississippi was able to win. The plays 584 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 4: he made in the second half were unbelievable. 585 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: They got to see if I can get him back 586 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: for a six years. He's having to deal with these 587 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: petitioned the petition it would be a sixth year. There's 588 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: some MINFL teams that look at him as a mid 589 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: round you know, maybe maybe project type guy. 590 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: How tall is he? 591 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: Like? 592 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 4: He's listed six I was going to say five to ten. 593 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 4: He's listed six foot athlete though gamer can throw on. 594 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 2: The runs, I'll tell you, hang on, Yeah, I'm listening. 595 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: I'm seeing six to one here. 596 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, he's he's been He's been phenomenal and 597 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: he gots those guys rallied. I think also interesting in 598 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: this game because I know you're not a Carson Beck guy. 599 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: How do you think he's done sort of improving his stock? 600 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 4: I yeah, I don't know about improving his stock. He 601 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 4: I thought he looked better in the first part of 602 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 4: the season. But what he's doing now is he's not 603 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 4: turned the ball over, right, He's had a high completion rate. 604 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 4: I think it was eighteen to twenty six last week 605 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 4: in that in that win against Ohio State. So he 606 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 4: can run a little bit. I mean, he can scramble 607 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 4: and pick up good yards. He seems to me to 608 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 4: be a smart quarterback the way he's played. 609 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 2: As of late persaurus at. 610 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: Spring football, measuring five to eleven three quarters, I thought 611 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: he was eleven and say three quarters six five eleven, 612 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: six eighths five s. 613 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 4: I want to I want to give him because I 614 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 4: said five tens, so five eleven and three quarters. 615 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: All right, Wow, it's remarkable how oft these five. 616 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: Six two hundred pounds so a little light, you know, 617 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: and a little a little short, but we've seen some 618 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: of that succeeded in recard years. Absolutely, is there anything? 619 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: I mean you said, so, let's just for a moment. 620 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: He doesn't get the sixth year. So he's going to 621 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: go to the NFL draft at that point, right, could he? 622 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: If he wins the National Championship. Let's just say he 623 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: goes top utter pick. But you're probably looking at third round, 624 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: fourth round. I mean, he's he's one of those guys 625 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: that you take on day two or with the first 626 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: ten picks of uh, you know, day three, and he 627 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: does and. 628 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: He does like more stuff like he did in that 629 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: second half. 630 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: He's man, he needs he needs work. But he's not 631 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, he's not a day well, you're not using 632 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: him for year one. He can do a first first round. 633 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: Oh man, he's not a year one. I mean unless 634 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: you've got a team that is absolutely set across the 635 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: board's got a luxury pick. 636 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 2: But I mean even then, why you know, well, I. 637 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: Mean Jackson Dart coming from Old miss I mean I 638 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: think that maybe yeah, at yah Dart. 639 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: Was bigger, more polished, had more reps. 640 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about a guy who's got what 641 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: four hundred snaps in college ball. I just sometimes we 642 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: get into the well, they just worked with this coach, right, 643 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: so Lane Kiffin obviously working with Jackson Dart. 644 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: Some people were very impressed with him. 645 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: I don't think he'll win offensive Rookie of the Year 646 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: or anything, but people impressed with him in his first year. 647 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: Probably the best performance of rookie quarterbacks last year. 648 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: Where we say that Jackson Dart versus Kim Wore, I 649 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: thought Cam wore improved. 650 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: I thought he came on. 651 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 4: I thought Cam wore down the stretch was actually pretty good. 652 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: Pretty good. Yeah, oh no, no doubt, no doubt. 653 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: But he just sometimes when you're coming from those programs, 654 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: there's a mindset about, well, gosh, he's coming from this program, 655 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: we get to work with Lane Kiffin and maybe maybe 656 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: we bring him in and see what we see if 657 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: he's got something. But you're right, that'd be probably first rounds, 658 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: probably a little bit earlier. You and I have never 659 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: gotten to that part of our relationship where I ask 660 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: you about strangers. 661 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: What he doesn't want to know, what's going on? 662 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 4: Watch May Kingstown. You watch stranger Things. I've heard good 663 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 4: things about Mary Kingston. 664 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: You should watch it. 665 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: I would like to. You should get renewed for a 666 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: final season two. 667 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, right, which will be six, season number six. 668 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 3: I've watched five. 669 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: Hey, I want to shoutut the Nuggets last night, gosh, 670 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: come on now one fourteen one ten win on the 671 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: road against Boston again shorthanded. 672 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: But after they beat Philly in overtime. 673 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, how about you? 674 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: Wal Murray He had twenty two points seventeen assists. Peyton 675 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: Watson had thirty Peyton Watson had thirty. I mean, he's 676 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: in a contract year. How are you feeling about an 677 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: extend that I want to I. 678 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: Want to see more? 679 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right. 680 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 3: I've seen him really good. 681 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 4: I think he's a Hella athlete. But I want to 682 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 4: see him improve over what I saw last year. I'm 683 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 4: not saying no, because I mean he's young, and he's 684 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 4: still young, and he's been here for a minute, but 685 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 4: I just want I want to see more of the 686 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 4: season play out. 687 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: That's exactly how I feel, and I would be resident 688 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: to go into that second apron if you can avoid it. 689 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: And the problem is as an extension for him almost 690 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: guarantees that, so you're probably gonna have to move players. 691 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: But he's a good player, right, I mean you like 692 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: having Peyton Watson really. 693 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 4: Good defensively long he can rebound. I want to see 694 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 4: him improve his free throw shooting from last year. 695 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: It's gotten better every year. 696 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: I mean's up. 697 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: I think he's like seventy four percent this year something 698 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: like that. He's close to it. I'm not sure, yeah, 699 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 2: like twenty three, I believe. 700 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: Let me look that up here. You're pretty sure he 701 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: just had a birthday. He was six for seven from 702 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: beyond the arc. He's twenty three yep turn in September, 703 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 1: so averaging twelve point seven points per game this year, 704 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: which is obviously a tick up for when he's Yeah 705 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: he's in the past last year or something like that. Yeah, 706 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: and he's again more efficient every year. I again, it 707 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: just just I mean Aaron Gordon, he's still playing relatively 708 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: limited minutes. He's working his way back. Christian Brown was 709 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: back in the starting lineup, which is certainly helpful. But 710 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, man, the Nikola Jokic thing, you 711 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: just want to see how it was gonna play out. 712 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: I think we had kind of, in my mind a 713 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: little bit of a leeway here. Hey, maybe just do 714 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: what you can over the next few weeks before he's 715 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: coming back, although Sheaf Sharati, by the way, said that 716 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: Nicola Jokis might be back at the end of this month, 717 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: like maybe before expectation. I think you're breathing easy if 718 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: you're the Nuggets, though, because you're looking at the last 719 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: couple of games and you're saying, all right, we got 720 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: a little something that even if Jokich is out, we're 721 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: still a competitive basketball team. I mean, he makes this 722 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: a different animal when he's in there. But I think 723 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: you look at that saying, hey man, we might have 724 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: something here. Well, and then maybe ad buys you a 725 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: little a time, Dave to not rush him back. 726 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think. 727 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think no matter how they play, 728 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 4: and they and they've played well so far, but I 729 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 4: think he's got to feel very comfortable. To me, you're 730 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 4: probably gonna hold him back a little bit because he 731 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 4: strikes me as a guy that he's going to want 732 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 4: to be out there like sooner than later. So you 733 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 4: want to make sure the big man is is okay, 734 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 4: feeling good and and uh they will. 735 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna be monitoring this game tonight. 736 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 737 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: Your prediction of Miami so far is looking a little 738 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 2: bit better. 739 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 3: Ryan. They've played two minutes, miss, What can you tell Ole? 740 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: Miss went three and out? 741 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 3: What can you tell in two minutes? 742 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: Very quick? 743 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 3: Three out, learned to say nothing? 744 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 4: Feeling pretty good about anything about let's play in two minutes. 745 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: What's the PF four grade right now? Good? 746 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 3: Lord? 747 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 2: Oh, Miami's already in midfield? Oh that, Oh that would 748 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: have been. 749 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: Big Carson Beck, the guy that you very it's a 750 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: true freshman too. 751 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: Cars the kid start to the receiver. Yeah, sorry, I 752 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: was like. 753 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, you got it. You gotta hit that one. 754 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: You gotta Yeah, you gotta hit that one. That's gonna 755 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: be fun. I'm looking forward to watching this. Of course, 756 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: we'll react to it tomorrow. We got Nate Jackson on 757 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: the show, so get his thoughts and we'll. 758 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: Look forward to uh the game tomorrow night. Ben, This 759 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: is a lot of fun. Good job, always fun. Ellis, 760 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: Grant Smith. 761 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: And Nick ferguson coming up in a matter of most 762 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: Broncos Country tonight. 763 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: On the other side,