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Welcome back, my friend. 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: It is always a distinct pleasure to have you on 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: the fifty. 22 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 3: Five KRC Morning Show, sir, and a distinct pleasure to 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: be here, Brian, thanks for having me back. 24 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: All right, it seems to me we've gone down this 25 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: road before negotiating with Iran over nuke's missiles generally speaking, 26 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: although I read this morning that the Iran Foreign Minister said, well, 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: Iran will not negotiate on its ballistic missile program, which 28 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: is a core US demand. So where are we, Daniel Davis. 29 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: We got all the military resources you know, all around 30 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: the area, aircraft, carriers and battleships, and we've got subs, 31 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: and it looks like we're getting ready to go into war, 32 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: Daniel Davis, And I know we have to have a 33 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: strong military presence to back up whatever we are trying 34 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: to get them to concede to. But they're threatening all 35 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: of our military bases. In general, chaos in the Middle 36 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: East at large, people are definitely going to die. So 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: I don't know we've got a stronger military, but they've 38 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: certainly are in a position to provide some massive chaos 39 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: and destruction. 40 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: So what is going on? 41 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: Here Daniel Davis boiling it down. 42 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: You know what, that's that's a really good question to 43 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 3: be asking. And I would love it if more people 44 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: in the White House were apparently asking all of those questions, 45 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: and not just the ones that should we or shouldn't 46 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: we attack Iran? 47 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 4: But what's gonna happen next? 48 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 3: Listen, Heading into the last the nearly direct conversations that 49 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: we had in the Middle East with Iran, between the 50 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: United States and Iran, you had Secretary of State Rubio 51 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: go on and explicitly say, there are four conditions that 52 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: we have to meet for these negotiations. 53 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 4: They have to have enrichment. 54 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: They have to have the nuclear program, well the nuclear 55 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: not weapons because they claim they don't have those, but 56 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: the missile program, the proxies, and they can't kill their people. 57 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: He said, those four things were the things that they 58 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: had to talk about Iran before the talk said we 59 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: ain't talking about any of that stuff. We're going to 60 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: talk about we'll we'll talk about the enrichment portion and 61 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: will minimize it or reduce it if there's a good deal. 62 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: And they specifically said, listen, there has to be a 63 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 3: win win here. You have to give us some in 64 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: order to get something. But we're at least willing to 65 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: talk about that one thing. And so I don't understand 66 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: why we're entering into that with any other expectations, because 67 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: it would make no sense for Iran to negotiate away 68 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: it's missile forces and it's proxy because those are the 69 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: absolute two central pillars upon which their entire national defense 70 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: is predicated. So you would literally be asking them to 71 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 3: surrender all their ability to defend themselves for nothing in return, 72 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: and no one's going to do that. 73 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 4: So, yes, Iran. 74 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: Has logically said, if you attack us anyway, then we 75 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: do have this capability. And this is this is not 76 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: a promise, this is a demonstrated capability. They have the 77 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: ability with these ballistic weapons, lots of swarming drones, they 78 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: can cause tremendous amounts of damage and destruction if we 79 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: are if we attack them. But they said, for sure, 80 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: we don't want a war. We will not attack anyone 81 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: unless we're hit. So that has to factor in with 82 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: what the White House is doing. And I'll just be 83 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: frank with you, Brian, I see zero upside for the 84 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: United States and launching an attack on Iran, and lots 85 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: of downside and we may not be able to coerce 86 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: them into what we want, even if we unleash Holy Hell, 87 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: as Trump has called it, because we have no ground component, 88 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: and it's just remarkably difficult to get all of the 89 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 3: offensive missiles which are now spread all throughout their huge 90 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: country three or four times bigger than in Iraq. 91 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: If you can believe that ninety million. 92 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: People and then think that you're gonna knock all that 93 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: stuff out and you're gonna be able to defend against 94 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: their ballistic missiles that are coming back, and we can't. 95 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: We can diminish them, but we can't knock them all out. 96 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: Our air defenses at Israel's air defenses are not that good. 97 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 3: And that's where we are. So I guess where does 98 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: this leave us? Because you know, a lot of my 99 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: listeners are clamored to just go ahead and draw bombs 100 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 3: on them, and I'll go back to the Constitution because 101 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 3: you and I had a conversation about this. This would 102 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: be launching a war, right, I mean, is there any 103 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 3: other way of looking at it? This isn't like not 104 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 3: this is not even like the you know, the so 105 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,799 Speaker 3: called twelve Dy war, which is primarily Iran in Israel, 106 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: and then we came in one day and actually about 107 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: a two hour time frame and hit a bunch of 108 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: specific targets related to their nuclear program. 109 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 4: That was what that Now. 110 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 3: I think that qualified then too because you attacked in 111 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 3: it to a foreign country. But this one, what we're 112 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: talking about is an outright war. I mean, it's talking 113 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: about you have all this combat power, you're talking about 114 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: taking out the regime. That's that's one of the stated 115 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 3: objectives by many close to the to the White House 116 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: saying that this is all about regime change. And you 117 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 3: destroy the Irgc, the political leaders, the missile forces, their navy. 118 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: That's a war. 119 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 3: And so unless we're gonna just say the constition no 120 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: longer cares, no longer matters, and we will just blow 121 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: it off, we have to get a congressional declaration before that, 122 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: but of course we're not going to. 123 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 4: So that is by itself a concern in my view. Well, 124 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: let me ask you this. 125 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: If Iran is capable of unleashing this holy hell and 126 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: shooting its ballistic missiles at all of our military bases 127 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: or whatever, I mean, clearly some are going to get through. 128 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: I acknowledge that and agree with it all day long. 129 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: Why didn't they do that in response to the Twelve 130 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: Day War when we bomb the crop out of their 131 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: nuclear facilities. 132 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: That's like big It is a good question, and there 133 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 3: is a definite answer. At that time what we said 134 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: we were going after the nuclear program alone. This time 135 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: we're signaling its regime change. So Iran had every incentive 136 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 3: in the world to mitigate and moderate their response then, 137 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: because they definitely did not want to precipitate in all 138 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 3: that war with the United States because they knew that 139 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: over time we could probably either cause profound damage or 140 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 3: possibly even destroy them, so they didn't want to do that. 141 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 3: This time, we're telling them ahead of time, you don't 142 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 3: have any reason to withhold anything, because we're trying to 143 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,679 Speaker 3: flat out destroy you and kill your leaders and destroy 144 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: the regime completely. So now then they have every incentive 145 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 3: to launch everything they have and hold nothing back, because 146 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 3: what goods do to have a missile force if your 147 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: leaders are dead and you don't even get to use it. 148 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 4: That's the big difference here. 149 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: Well, and we've commented you and I have talked about 150 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: many times and that we have a limited amount of hardware. 151 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: This has been a situation with Russia and Ukraine as well. 152 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean there's only a fine out amount of resources. 153 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: I would imagine that Iran is probably a lesser position 154 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: with the finite amount of resources. They only have so 155 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: many rockets they can launch and so many sites that 156 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: they can attack if we ended up in a conflict, 157 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: Not that I want to go down that road, Daniel Davis, 158 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: but don't we I mean, can't we win? If we're 159 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: talking about like a a sort of like a war 160 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: of attrition? Could they re up their stockpiles? Is China 161 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: or Russia going to be involved in this? I mean 162 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: it's a lot of layers. It depends on what we're 163 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: willing to do politically. If you're saying we're willing to 164 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: spend six nine months, maybe a year a year of 165 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: high intensity conflict and all of the casualties that would 166 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: come with that, then yes, they have a fine out 167 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: amount and we have more. But we have global requirements 168 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: as well, and so you would have to say, how 169 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: many missiles can our bases endure receiving in the Middle East? 170 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: How many casualties can we have and sustain over this time? 171 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: How many cashews can the Israelis have Because they're going 172 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: to be a primary target as well. And I would 173 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: wager that if it's an existential battle, that Iran will 174 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: not just strict solely military targets, but will go after 175 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: high value and high casualty producing targets as well, because 176 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: they're not going to go down empty handed. They're not 177 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: going to allow themselves to be destroyed and not inflict 178 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: profound damage on the other side. So it is theoretically possible, 179 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: and if you just did a war of attrition, we 180 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: would probably win as long as we don't ever get 181 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: called and defied anything in Europe, as long as we 182 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: don't get called tofied anything in Asia or anywhere else 183 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: on the globe. 184 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: But why would we want to lower all of our stocks, 185 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: have a number of our people killed for nothing that 186 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: benefits our country. That's what I am so emphatic about here. 187 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 3: There is no threat to America that is worth all 188 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: of that expense, and we should not even start it. 189 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: So ultimately this boils down to this benefits primarily Israel. 190 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, it does. 191 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: I mean that's why benjaminette Yaw, who's on his way 192 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: to Washington right now, there's going to be a meeting 193 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 3: tomorrow the last time he was here on December twenty eighth, 194 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: A whole bunch of actions started happening right after that, 195 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 3: and you had the big protest started. Bessett said, we 196 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 3: initiated by destroying their reality and trying to sabotage their economy. 197 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: Would certainly work to get the protests up, but then 198 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: it didn't have enough staying power, etc. 199 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 4: That's what happened last time. 200 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: And we can only imagine that he's coming to try 201 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: and talk Trump into doing it now because most people 202 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: thought me included that this would already have happened, that 203 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: the attack would happen, because everything's in place now, it 204 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 3: has been for a while. The question is what's he 205 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: going to do. Because here's the thing. You either have 206 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 3: to you know, I won't use the phrase, but you 207 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 3: have to do something now or get off because you 208 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: can't leave all this combat power poison waiting and then 209 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: never use it. You're gonna have to either use it 210 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 3: or redeploy it pretty soon. 211 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: Donald Trump said, they've got to be floating around somewhere, 212 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: so why not just let them float around there? 213 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 4: The boats and the ships. I'm just saying, okay. 214 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: Speaking about electrician let's just pivot over briefly to talk 215 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: about the latest in Russia and Ukraine, you know, going 216 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: further to your point, I mean, if you look at 217 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: you know, Ukraine's army, Russia's army one is bigger than 218 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: the other. You would have thought Russia could have gone 219 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: through and just roll right over Ukraine. At the outset 220 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: here we are, what is it, year three, It's taken 221 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: a lot longer, year four four. It's taken a lot 222 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: longer for Russia to roll over the much smaller and 223 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: inferior army in Ukraine. That's a learning exercise for a 224 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: giant power like ours too. In this in this as 225 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: we discussed these conflicts. 226 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: Well, except that it's not quite as simple as that, 227 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: because it's not just the big Russia against the little 228 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 3: Ukraine except in manpower and that one category it is 229 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 3: that and that that is that is having its it's uh, 230 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: it's an expected reaction. But it is the entire fifty 231 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 3: nation UH coalition of the willing, mostly NATO, using Ukraine 232 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: as the proxy. So it is two major powers going 233 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: against each other through the vehicle of the Ukraine side. 234 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: That's important to understand because too many people want to 235 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 3: mock the Russians that they can't defeat this little Ukraine. 236 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 3: But it's never been just Russia against the little Ukraine. 237 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: It's been Russia against the juggernaut of all of these 238 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: fifty nations, which we brag about all the time about 239 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: how everybody's supplying Ukraine with everything they need to fight. 240 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: Ukraine has to provide. The manpower problem is they don't 241 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 3: have enough manpower. So Russia has calculated that Okay, we're 242 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: going to go the slow, methodical path and limit our 243 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: friendly casualties because they can't sustain what the firepower we're 244 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: bringing in, and it's working out that way. Their time 245 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: is different than ours, Brian. They're willing to go slow, 246 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: even if it took another year. I don't think it will, 247 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: but they say that you can't sustain the manpower, and 248 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: no matter what you get from the West, we can 249 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: over we can saturate it with firepower and you'll eventually 250 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: be ground to nothing. 251 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 4: But we are still. 252 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: Growing and getting bigger on their offensive side, and it's 253 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: just gonna play out that way. So there's no path 254 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: that I mean zero to stop Russia right now. The 255 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: only question is how fast are they going to go 256 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: or you know, how slow or methodical, but they're gonna end. 257 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: Up with the victory a victory, and how that victory 258 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: looks is I guess the question to be determined because 259 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: you know certain land will be conceded, will be given 260 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: over by Ukraine, I presume the areas. 261 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: Or it'll be just taken by the Russians one or 262 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: the other. And then that's what they're saying, you're either 263 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 3: going to work it by negotiations or we're going to 264 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: take you by force, and they're. 265 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: Open and plain about that, and they'll be an occupying force. 266 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: Then if they take over Ukraine, right, I mean, doesn't I. 267 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: Say, what they're going to want to do is they're 268 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: going to take areage where there is a significant portion 269 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 3: of Russian speakers, right, And then I think they'll stop 270 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 3: because I don't think that that they want any part 271 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: of going into the west of the des River, because 272 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 3: that is just like a beehive and trying to Yeah, 273 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: so I don't think they would even want to, but 274 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: they will go that far because it is primarily a 275 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: Russian speakers in there, and then they're still going to 276 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: deal with it because there's no doubt in my mind 277 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: that if Russia even Conkers to the Danepa River. That 278 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 3: there is already plans in place for there to be 279 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: a you know, a partisan kind of long term chancer 280 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: in the in the rear of the Russians. 281 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're aware of it. 282 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: But that's yeah, so this won't end even then, it'll 283 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: just change dynamics, which is bad, bad, bad for the 284 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 3: people of Ukraine. 285 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, the guerrilla warfare fighting from the hills against the 286 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: evil Russians, hit and attack and run, and that's you 287 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: bought that long term to the extent, you know, they 288 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: want to take over more. Daniel Davis Deep Die find 289 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: them on podcasts The Retire Lieutenant Colonel. It's always great 290 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: having you on the show. I appreciate your thoughtful analysis 291 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: and we'll do it again next Tuesday, my friend, have. 292 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: A great week. Thanks Ryan, see you next week. 293 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: Take care. Eight forty four fifty five krc DE Talk station. 294 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: This is fifty five krc an iHeartRadio station.