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Speaker 1: Somehow I have to turn the page right now. From

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Speaker 1: if that has not been said, Brett blakemore with me

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Speaker 2: And trust me, we don't want to talk Packers anymore.

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Speaker 1: No, we have more more than enough time to do

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Speaker 1: We've got a snow Naomi coming, it's we're in Saint

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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure it's gonna make it. But we'll

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Speaker 1: as an homage to Bump, we will take snow Nomy

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Speaker 2: I don't know why we wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure many of you taking the day off Monday,

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Speaker 1: Calamity of all time for Minnesota sports. We can argue

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Speaker 3: It is nice to have in the closet when you

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Speaker 1: To watch four to three overtime win for your Wild

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Speaker 1: They may have shown less fight than the Packers did

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Speaker 1: if any fantasy football teams that had Derrick Henry made

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Speaker 1: it was a Matt Laflir called it humbling. It was

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Speaker 2: And instead, what we're going to get is, you know who, a.

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Speaker 1: Ghost of the Green Bay Packers roster will see who

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Speaker 1: this What's harder for you as a fan to watch

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Speaker 3: I think the tougher watch is what we saw last night.

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Speaker 3: I think the further ramifications of it. I was more

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Speaker 2: Last night is just what can you do?

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Speaker 3: They didn't show up, They had no interest in playing,

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Speaker 2: Apathetic. Like it's just like, probably didn't go out to

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Speaker 1: It's basically, if they don't care, why should we care? Correct, Like,

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Speaker 1: get it on Monday. The lousy performance defensively takes away

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Speaker 1: from what Malik Willis accomplished last night was nothing less

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Speaker 1: And he goes to an organization that knows how to

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Speaker 1: So I'm not saying it's time to cut bait, not

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Speaker 1: I think it's almost organizational malpractice if they don't. I

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Speaker 2: Well, let's be on your list?

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Speaker 1: Because how heavy is the list that mac Jones has

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Speaker 1: Who knows what next year can bring. Is Willis on

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Speaker 1: kid like that who was thought of as a first

435
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Speaker 1: round pick at Liberty and goes to it's a terrible

436
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Speaker 1: organization and never really gets a chance, doesn't show anything.

437
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Speaker 1: It's shipped out for a seventh round pick. Every time

438
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Speaker 1: he has stepped in for green Bay over the last

439
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Speaker 1: two seasons, he has looked great and he to me

440
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Speaker 1: passes the eye test for a starting quarterback in this league.

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Speaker 1: Is he how high is his ceiling? I have no idea.

442
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Speaker 1: You know, maybe he's a little injury prone. He certainly

443
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Speaker 1: runs the ball. He's been banged up a little bit

444
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Speaker 1: when he's played, he's been soared. Seems every time he

445
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Speaker 1: plays he's got something bothering him. So you got a

446
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Speaker 1: way that not the biggest guy in the world, but

447
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: he looked every bit like a pro quarterback, and quarterbacks

448
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Speaker 1: we're watching play right now in this league. He will

449
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Speaker 1: start somewhere. I'm just very curious to see where he lands.

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Speaker 1: We'll pause here, let's talk to some world juniors in town.

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Speaker 1: A lot of visitors in town enjoying the snow. We're

452
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Speaker 1: taking more snow noami requests. We will also dive into

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Speaker 1: the calamity calendar today in epic Mount Rushmore type day,

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Speaker 1: December twenty eighth. But up next, Kevin Seafert joins the program,

455
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Speaker 1: talks in Purple, talks some NFL. Not a lot of

456
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Speaker 1: scintillating games left on the schedule, the playoffs are pretty

457
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Speaker 1: well set. But anxious to dive into some NFL talk

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Speaker 1: with him Seafert. Next Sunday Sermons on the Fan. We

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Speaker 1: are back at Sunday Sermons on the Fan. Dave sinnekon

460
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Speaker 1: in for Dan Barrero today as an homage with the

461
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Speaker 1: snow flying, it's amy naming Sunday with the storm approaching.

462
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Speaker 1: I think our next guest will be happy with the

463
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Speaker 1: latest submission we got over the break How about Harry

464
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Speaker 1: the hit Matt as the name of this snownamy to commemorate, Well,

465
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Speaker 1: maybe you know his last great performance at us Bank Stadium.

466
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Speaker 2: We don't know his future.

467
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Speaker 1: Obviously he's got another game, but doing it against a

468
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Speaker 1: bunch of Packer backups may not look as impressive as

469
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Speaker 1: it did against Detroit on Christmas Day. Kevin Seffert wrote

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Speaker 1: about the futures of Harrison Smith and Brian Flores, among

471
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Speaker 1: other things this week, and he joins the program on

472
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Speaker 1: a Sunday that he has the day off. So I

473
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Speaker 1: very much appreciate, Kevin, you spend some time on a Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I hope you had a great Christmas with the family.

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Speaker 2: I sure did.

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Speaker 4: I hope you did as well. Happy to be here, Yeah, thank.

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Speaker 2: You, I did as well.

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Speaker 1: Long day, long day, from breakfast through Timberwolves. It was

479
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Speaker 1: it felt like two days, but it was a great

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Speaker 1: one for sure. Quickly just I'm sure you caught some

481
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Speaker 1: of last night. How surprised were you by the lack

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Speaker 1: of effort by Green Bay's defense or maybe just the

483
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Speaker 1: hard earned running attack that Baltimore put out with Derek

484
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Speaker 1: Henry having one of his King Henry type Knights.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know if I had attribute to

486
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Speaker 4: effort or what, but I was definitely shocked, if you know,

487
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Speaker 4: truth and savagery. Like I had thought that the Packers

488
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Speaker 4: defense was the best group, uh you know, offense defense

489
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Speaker 4: special teams of anybody in the NFC North, and I

490
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Speaker 4: thought that's why they would win the NFC North. And

491
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Speaker 4: I was very wrong about that. Maybe the Micah Parsons

492
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Speaker 4: injury had you know, I'm sure that had something to

493
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Speaker 4: do with it, but whether it was effort or just ineffectiveness, ultimately,

494
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Speaker 4: you know, it's so fascinating because as much as we

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Speaker 4: talk about the NFL being a passing league, there has

496
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Speaker 4: been so much reaction defensively to that that when you

497
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Speaker 4: have a team like the Ravens, who can line up

498
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Speaker 4: with a two hundred and forty pounds back and I

499
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Speaker 4: guess a pretty decent offensive line and just pound a

500
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Speaker 4: smaller defense that you can, you can win games by

501
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Speaker 4: just pounding and ground and pound. And you know, they

502
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Speaker 4: certainly they had some some passes last night, but it

503
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Speaker 4: was It's interesting how the worm tends to turn sometimes

504
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Speaker 4: if teams overreact from a personnel or schematic perspective to

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Speaker 4: the fact that it's predominantly a passing league.

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Speaker 1: How much do we attribute motivation in these games these

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. You know, you got a team

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Speaker 1: in the Ravens that's a playoff game. They're out if

509
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Speaker 1: they lose. You've Green Bay team that was gift wrapped

510
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Speaker 1: a playoff spot on Thursday, and and so some of

511
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Speaker 1: the edge is taken off because they know they're in,

512
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Speaker 1: yet they had something to play for, and we're gonna

513
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: see that a lot today, tomorrow, next week. One team cares,

514
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Speaker 1: one doesn't. Often the team that has nothing to play

515
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Speaker 1: for it tends to beat the team that has everything

516
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Speaker 1: on the line.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't the case last night.

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Speaker 1: But but motivation does tend to be a big factor

519
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Speaker 1: down the stretch in these games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure it does. You know, part of me

521
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Speaker 4: thinks that sometimes it's just how the early part of

522
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Speaker 4: the game goes. You know, if if the Packers had,

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Speaker 4: you know, somehow gotten out to a fourteen oh lead,

524
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Speaker 4: then then maybe you know, the Ravens pack it in

525
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Speaker 4: or maybe they can't play that run, you know based offense,

526
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Speaker 4: and then it spirals from there. So sometimes you always

527
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Speaker 4: hear the cliche of our coaches said, we got to

528
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Speaker 4: get a fast start. We got to get a fast start,

529
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Speaker 4: and it means it's true for a lot of different reasons.

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Speaker 4: But in some of these games where people at least

531
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Speaker 4: one team is playing with no you know, real consequence,

532
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Speaker 4: it can be just as easy to pack it in

533
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Speaker 4: if you're behind early on the road, in a cold stadium,

534
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Speaker 4: if a few things don't go your way early on.

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Speaker 4: So I always wonder, you know, I know, I'm sure

536
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Speaker 4: motivation is a part of it, but I also wonder

537
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Speaker 4: if just how the very early stages of a game

538
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: can impact the way a team plays the rest of

539
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Speaker 4: the game in those situations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: Certainly, the way last night started, we kind of saw

542
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Speaker 1: the writing on the wall very early. You wrote about

543
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Speaker 1: following the Christmas Day game. I maybe the two names

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Speaker 1: that probably stood out the most. What a game for

545
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Speaker 1: Harrison Smith and what a defensive game plan by Brian Floras,

546
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Speaker 1: And both of their futures are very much in question,

547
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Speaker 1: with Flora's being a coaching free agent and Harrison Smith

548
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: obviously deciding whether he wants to keep playing. What struck

549
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Speaker 1: you most as you watch the Christmas Day performance, particularly

550
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Speaker 1: obviously by the defense. We'll leave the offense alone for

551
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Speaker 1: this conversation as far as where this team goes next season,

552
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Speaker 1: how different it might look, and what the chances are

553
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Speaker 1: that Brian Flores is back in your mind as a

554
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The first thing that struck me, and something I've been

557
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 4: talking to Dan a lot about and writing about earlier

558
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Speaker 4: in the season, was that sort of the theory of

559
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 4: the case for how the Vikings could be a playoff

560
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 4: team this year with a young, developing quarterback was first

561
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Speaker 4: and foremost for the defense to be not just a

562
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: good defense, but like a lighteout defense, one that like

563
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 4: is just not giving a quarterbacks a chance to breathe,

564
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 4: just overwhelming offensive linemen, overwhelming protection schemes, totally bamboozling any

565
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Speaker 4: post snap checks that a quarterback might have moved into

566
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Speaker 4: or pre snap checks, and just creating as smooth as

567
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Speaker 4: a runway for the rest of the team as possible.

568
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Speaker 4: And so that's what that happened that Christmas night. You know,

569
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Speaker 4: obviously you're not going to play that well every game,

570
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Speaker 4: but look, the Lions had a top five offense and

571
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: they just tore it apart. And that's really it was.

572
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 4: A high bar because of the you know, the decision

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Speaker 4: that he made a quarterback, and the and the and

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Speaker 4: then some of the injuries that they had, not just

575
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Speaker 4: the quarterback but offensive line, that their offense was just

576
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Speaker 4: not going to be as explosive as it had been

577
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Speaker 4: in the past and was in many games not going

578
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Speaker 4: to be able to carry its fair share. And so

579
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Speaker 4: if the Vikings were going to become a playoff team,

580
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Speaker 4: it was going to have to be a defense first,

581
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Speaker 4: and then, as it turned out, a field goal kicker

582
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Speaker 4: who could convert any almost any possession that crossed the

583
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Speaker 4: fifty into a U into at least three points. That

584
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Speaker 4: was the way they were going to have to win.

585
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Speaker 4: And so we saw that pattern at its fullest and

586
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Speaker 4: most optimal level Christmas Eve. So that's what that's what

587
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Speaker 4: stood out to me about the game. As far as

588
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Speaker 4: Brian Flores and Harrison Smith. The Harrison Smith part like

589
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Speaker 4: he has not wanted to go there in terms of

590
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Speaker 4: talking about it publicly, and you know, I guess it's

591
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Speaker 4: always possible that he's made up his mind, but in

592
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Speaker 4: the past few years, you know, he's not made up,

593
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 4: but he's not even thought about it. Whether he was

594
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Speaker 4: going to play again until like the end of February

595
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 4: early I remember one year him saying that he really

596
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Speaker 4: he was watching ESPN in fact, and realized, oh, free

597
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 4: agency is coming. I guess the Vikings probably need an

598
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: answer from me, And so he called them up and

599
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 4: they went through it, and he decided to come back.

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Speaker 4: And and I think that's been the case for most

601
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Speaker 4: of these past few off seasons. So he might also

602
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Speaker 4: just be leaving himself the space that if he gets

603
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 4: to end of February early March before the Vikings have

604
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 4: to make any real personnel decisions, that he still might

605
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 4: want to play another year. So I don't think it's

606
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 4: like one hundred percent definite. You know, it's going to

607
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 4: happen sometime, And this seems in terms of the you know,

608
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: his age and where the Vikings will be salary cap

609
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 4: wise next year, this might be the time. But but

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Speaker 4: I can't, you know, I don't think anyone would be

611
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 4: doing any service to credibility or truthfulness and saying that

612
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Speaker 4: they know this is going to be his last year.

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Speaker 4: And so there's that, and then the floorst thing is

614
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Speaker 4: it's really unique in that, you know, everybody kind of talks,

615
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Speaker 4: you know, everybody knows that you can break your contract

616
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 4: to become a head coach, but you can't break your

617
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 4: contract to leave to become another team's defensive coordinator. And

618
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 4: so the decision was made to let him go into

619
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Speaker 4: this year, in the final year of his deal, and

620
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Speaker 4: that at the very least gives him the opportunity to

621
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Speaker 4: see what else is out there for him. And so

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Speaker 4: I know there's a lot of national people who are

623
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Speaker 4: wondering whether he'll be in which teams will consider him

624
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Speaker 4: for a head coaching job, and I would I'd be

625
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 4: surprised if he didn't get interviews. But all the circumstances

626
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 4: that have led him to not get a job head

627
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 4: coaching wise in the past few years still exists, in

628
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Speaker 4: terms of the lawsuit, in terms of the comments from

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Speaker 4: his quarterbacks in Miami, and you know, all.

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Speaker 2: The things that go along with it. And so I.

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Speaker 4: Don't know if his chances to become a head coach

632
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: have increased, even though they've he's had a great season

633
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Speaker 4: as a coordinator. And I also would be curious to

634
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 4: see what job from a coordinator's perspective would be better

635
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 4: his mind than what he has here in the sense

636
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 4: that he has about as full autonomy scheme wise as

637
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 4: you can get as a defensive coordinator from the head coach,

638
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Speaker 4: and he has a decent say in terms of personnel

639
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: as well. And so there's a lot of things that

640
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 4: just structurally he has here that he might not be

641
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 4: able to get elsewhere. But this gives him the opportunity

642
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 4: to find that out and to see if there is

643
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 4: something that fits even better than where he's at now.

644
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Speaker 4: And so I don't think either side is eager too,

645
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Speaker 4: and I know neither side is eager to part ways,

646
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 4: but they have created this possibility, and so at the

647
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 4: very least, he's going to have the opportunity to explore

648
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Speaker 4: if he wants other places and other possibilities, and if

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Speaker 4: that happens, if they go into next year without Brian

650
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Speaker 4: Flores and Harrison Smith, and that's a significant burden to

651
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Speaker 4: overcome when everybody is already noting that their quarterback situation

652
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 4: is priority number one this offseason.

653
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what we're going next.

654
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: Talking to Kevin Seafert read his stuff obviously at ESPN

655
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: dot com, covering the Purple and the NFL at ESPN

656
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: dot com. You know, I think you know, if Flores

657
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: were to decide to go elsewhere, maybe not as a

658
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: head coach, but as a defensive coordinator. Maybe it is

659
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: just because of the uncertainty at the quarterback position and

660
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: what this organization is going to do. A lot of

661
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: us from the outside looking in believe that the Vikings

662
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: have to at least bring somebody in to compete for

663
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy for no other reason than you know, he

664
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: hasn't been on the field very much and you've got

665
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: to make sure you've got something there competition wise. As

666
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: we sit here today, end of the season, how likely

667
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: do you think it is that that the Vikings a

668
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: bring in competition and b are they willing to either

669
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: part with draft pick compensation to bring in a guy

670
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: like mac Jones or would they be willing do you

671
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: think to spend a little to get a guy? I mean,

672
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: we're all talking about Malik Willis because he's going to

673
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: be looking for a job and someone's gonna pay him.

674
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: He might need too much money, but you have to

675
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: believe that there is going to be another body in

676
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: that room next year, right Yeah.

677
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 4: And I can't rule out any possibility, Like if they

678
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 4: I'm sure they don't want to have to give up

679
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 4: a draft pick to get a quarterback who may or

680
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 4: may not play for them next year, depending on how

681
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 4: what JJ McCarthy situation is. But I mean, we've seen

682
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: what happens when you go in, you know, this season's

683
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 4: a perfect example of when you go in with not

684
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 4: enough you know of a safety net. Frankly, like, you know,

685
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 4: they had Sam Howe from the draft up until the

686
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 4: end of training camp, and that was clear that that

687
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 4: was not going to be a strong enough safety net.

688
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 4: They were able to get Carson Wentz, but there was

689
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 4: a reason Carson Wentz was available at the end of August.

690
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 4: I mean, he played, you know, frankly better than JJ McCarthy,

691
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 4: but he still was probably a bottom third quarterback in

692
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: terms of most of the ways from a data perspective

693
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 4: that you analyze quarterbacks. So you know, they I don't

694
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: think it was for lack of trying, but they ended

695
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 4: up with a substandard safety net for a guy who

696
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 4: had never played an NFL regular season snap, and they

697
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 4: saw how that basically you know.

698
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: Submarine their season.

699
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 4: So I don't think that there's any way you can

700
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 4: rationalize not coming up with a much stronger option. And

701
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 4: the question but the question is like, how do you

702
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 4: do that? Like you know, you mentioned you know Milke

703
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 4: willis like the Vikings aren't the only team that are

704
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 4: going to be looking for someone like that, and they

705
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 4: might be able to other teams might be able to

706
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 4: offer him a better opportunity for to for guarantee playing time.

707
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 4: I don't think he wants to go somewhere necessarily where

708
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 4: if things work out the way the organization hopes that

709
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 4: that he would not be playing. And so I don't

710
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 4: think the Vikings have given up on JJ McCarthy. I

711
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 4: think they still, you know, are pretty much in a

712
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 4: position where they have no choice but to hope that

713
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 4: he develops into a long term starter. But I just

714
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 4: know that they they know that they can't go into

715
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 4: next year without you know, a stronger safety net. But

716
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: the question will be and I don't have a good

717
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 4: answer now because I don't think there are any obvious

718
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 4: answers about who that person would be and how you

719
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 4: would talk them into coming and how you know, would

720
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 4: you have a full you know, competition where each guy

721
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 4: is getting fifty percent of the snaps or is he

722
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 4: is that person just there in case macarthy gets hurt

723
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 4: or doesn't show market improvement.

724
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the fascinating talker.

725
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: Obviously, that's going to be the main thing we all

726
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: think about between now and the draft, frankly, or free agency,

727
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: for sure. Let's go beyond the North for a second, Kevin,

728
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: the final few minutes with you. It's kind of a

729
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: weird season in that here we sit middle of the

730
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: week seventeen. We basically know all the playoff teams. We

731
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: just got to figure out the AFC South and or sorry,

732
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: the NFC South and the AFC North champ. Otherwise, all

733
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: the wild cards are locked in and there's not a

734
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: you know, there's no Chiefs, there's no Lions. Looked great

735
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: last year. It's not a dominant team. It's so wide open.

736
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: Can you remember a year I certainly can't where there's

737
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: not a team You go, yeah, well, it's likely going

738
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: to be these two teams in the suit super Bowl.

739
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 1: I could make a case for fifteen different combinations right now.

740
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 2: Well, especially in the.

741
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 4: AFC, where you know, I forget exactly what the status,

742
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 4: but you know, in terms of how frequently there was

743
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: either a Manning, a Brady or Mahomes, Yeah, in the playoffs,

744
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 4: and thus one of those guys and most certainly was

745
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 4: going to get to the Super Bowl. And so the

746
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 4: AFC is especially wide open from a historical perspective. It

747
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 4: would be iron not ironic, but entertaining if the Patriots

748
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 4: go back with a different quarterback and we now had

749
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 4: Drake May's name to that lift. But you know, that's

750
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 4: that that could be just you know, it'll for people

751
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: always talk about, you know, how well you're playing after Thanksgiving,

752
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 4: and that is that those are the teams to really

753
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 4: keep an eye on. And and it really I think

754
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl champion will ultimately be the team that

755
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 4: has just either started to catch fire now or is

756
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 4: going to catch fire in the playoffs. And there's some

757
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 4: candidates there, but you know, it's always sort of sometimes

758
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 4: compare it to the NCAA tournament when you get for

759
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 4: men's college basketball, where you get a point guard that's

760
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 4: just you know, an unbelievable hot streak and he has

761
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 4: the ball in his hand and every play and can

762
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: influence outcomes on his own. And that's the same. You know,

763
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 4: it could be the same way at courtback when the

764
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 4: Packers won the Super Bowl and twenty ten. Just to

765
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 4: localize it, like Aaron Rodgers was was already very good,

766
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 4: but he just with that really hot point guard that

767
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 4: that just carried the team through all the way. And

768
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 4: so we will see which team has a quarterback who

769
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 4: can do that or which team has a group that

770
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: can do that. But that's in retrospect, that's what we

771
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 4: will be able to say. It's you know, the team

772
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 4: that won. It was the one that caught fire right

773
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 4: around now and and plowed its way all the way

774
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: to to to the super Bowl.

775
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: On the flip side of the two worst teams are

776
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: playing today. Giants and Raiders have called it the Tankathon

777
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: because they're all ten players to stay home, like I

778
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 1: don't want you to play, I don't want you to play,

779
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: And there are right, yeah, exactly missing.

780
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 4: They're all injured and they're protecting their health.

781
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: Right tell Max Crosby that he's too hurt to play?

782
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: What do you think is the U the fallout from

783
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: Las Vegas telling Max Crosby to go home and he

784
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: basically has a meltdown because he never wants to stop playing.

785
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: Is that the kind of thing that might cause a

786
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: divorce between one of the great players in this league

787
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: and a very dysfunctional organization.

788
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 4: Well, it'll definitely spark interest from you know, there's never

789
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 4: a shortage of teams that are looking to as the

790
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 4: Packers demonstrated with with Micah Parsons, there's never a shortage

791
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 4: of teams that are looking to add a game changing

792
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 4: paths rusher at any expense, at any cost, at any

793
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 4: and sometimes at any point in their careers. And so

794
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 4: uh that that will certainly if there was ever a

795
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 4: time that a team will have an opportunity to pry

796
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 4: him away, or the or the On the other perspective,

797
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 4: the Raiders have an opportunity to reshape their entire organization

798
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 4: with one move. Now might be the time.

799
00:40:59,280 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: So we'll see.

800
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 4: You know, we thought Miles Garrett would be moving on

801
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: from Cleveland, and he ended up with more money to stay,

802
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: and so I don't know if this would just be

803
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 4: a money thing with Max Crosby, if they could find

804
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 4: a way to give him more, or if they could

805
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 4: if this is a natural conclusion to his time there

806
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 4: and they're about to get a whole bunch of draft

807
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 4: picks and he's about to get.

808
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 2: A fresh start.

809
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 4: So I think at the very least, you'll have a

810
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 4: lot of teams calling to see what it would take

811
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 4: to get him.

812
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 5: Out of there?

813
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: Are you too? All right? Last one for you.

814
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: You wrote about a couple of weeks ago, the fiftieth

815
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: anniversary today of the Pail Mary, the push Off, one

816
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: of the dark moments in Viking's history. Great deep dive

817
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: story you wrote at ESPN dot com, And I encourage

818
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: anyone to go find it because it's enlightening. And I

819
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: was curious as I read it, what as you sort

820
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: of you know, did the research and learn more about

821
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: this thing? Because you were just a pump in nineteen

822
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: seventy five, obviously, just like me, anything got unearthed when

823
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: you were researching this that you didn't know, or anything

824
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: stand out to you that maybe a part of the

825
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: story that you were a little surprised about.

826
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: Once you dove.

827
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 4: Into this, well, I knew that, like you know, living

828
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 4: here for so long, I knew that everyone Paul Drew

829
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 4: Pearson pushed Pearson and everybody you know thought he pushed off.

830
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 4: I was a little surprised at just the level of

831
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 4: bile that Paul Krause and and and they right still

832
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 4: have over that play. And in some cases it's been

833
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 4: personal with with Drew and with Roger Staubach as well.

834
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 4: That they I mean they like, like Paul Krause is

835
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 4: eighty plus years old, he is saying, telling me like,

836
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 4: I'm still sick. It still makes me sick to my

837
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 4: stomach to this day. And that's fifty years ago. And

838
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 4: it just drove home to me, like how wild that

839
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 4: that play was, and how how many consequences and domino

840
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 4: effects it had, and just the fact that it hasn't

841
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 4: left them at all. And Paul Kraft especially goes on

842
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 4: to be a Hall of Fame player and and and

843
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 4: he still is that still lodged in him. And he

844
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 4: told me he doesn't remember a ton of details from

845
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 4: a ton of games that he played because they just,

846
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: you know, they were all kind of you know, part

847
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 4: of a long career. But that's one that really stood out.

848
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 4: And the other thing is I kind of I downloaded

849
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 4: a video on my phone. I didn't include this in

850
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 4: the story even, but I downloaded a video of it

851
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 4: to my in my phone and showed it to some

852
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 4: players in the Vikings locker room. And none of them really,

853
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 4: you know, And I don't think this is unusual. I don't,

854
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 4: you know, just fifty years later, memories, you know, don't

855
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 4: go back that far. But none of them realized that

856
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 4: the Vikings were even involved in the first Hail Mary,

857
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 4: and a lot of them didn't realize that why it

858
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 4: was called the Hail Mary. And so that was an

859
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 4: interesting reminder that I'm old, even though I was a

860
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 4: young pup when it happened, and I'm old and that

861
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 4: one of the one of the fun parts about doing

862
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 4: these kinds of stories is that it extends the memory

863
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 4: and the knowledge of something that really iconic to another

864
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 4: generation of people.

865
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what's so great about it, Like that, that's

866
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: where the hill Mary came from. Like how ya think,

867
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: wonder what that term came from. We're going to get

868
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 1: from there to here. And then I think certainly longtime

869
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: biking fans were realized this. I didn't remember until I

870
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: read the stories. You know, the Vikings were trying to

871
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: get back to the super Bowl for the third straight year,

872
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: and they were ten and o to start me everything

873
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: was going their way and for it to end, yeah, exactly,

874
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: and for to end because the Zebras screwed up. I mean,

875
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: I can see why Kraus and Right and those guys,

876
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean, or only we got I may not forget

877
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: that Bear's ending last week for fifty years myself, so

878
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: I can understand for guys that actually played in the game.

879
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: Keep up the great work.

880
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: Thanks for giving us part of your Sunday morning, Kevin,

881
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: Happy New Year.

882
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: Look forward to chatting with you again. Same to you.

883
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: Thank you, Dave, you got it.

884
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Seafert read his stuff at ESPN dot com. Another

885
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: little item from the fifty years ago today, Hail Mary.

886
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: Thing that Dan Minnesota reminded me of. I had no idea.

887
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: Fran Tarkenton, the Vikings quarterback that day, his father passed

888
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: away during that game, watching that game at sixty three

889
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: years of age, and his name was Dallas, and they're

890
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: playing the Cowboys, and you know, Dan sent me the

891
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: clipping of the story and it was just interesting. His

892
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: dad was a pastor who wasn't really interested in football.

893
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: But you know, Franz brothers had said, yeah, he'll kind

894
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: of pay attention when Fran's playing, but otherwise he's not

895
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,959
Speaker 1: really interested in football. But Fran found out hours later

896
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: that he lost his dad during that inglorious game against

897
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: the Cowboys fifty years ago today. It's just one of

898
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: five or six terrible Minnesota sports moments that happened on

899
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: December twenty eighth. It's quite a calendar of calamity Day

900
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: December twenty eighth, we'll go through it. On the other side,

901
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: our number two Sunday Sermons is up next. It's Sunday Sermons,

902
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: Final one of the twenty twenty five calendar year. Dan

903
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: Barrero taking a well deserved day off today. I'm Dave

904
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: Sin again, sitting in the big chair along with Brett

905
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: Blake Moore our number two on kind of a sleepy,

906
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: snowy Sunday where none of our teams play football today,

907
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: and we'll watch a lot of really bad matchups. It's

908
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: not a great slate, but there are a few games

909
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: of note that we'll chat about over this next hour.

910
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: As the playoffs get put into focus. Snow continues to

911
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: fall here in the metro area here in St.

912
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: Louis Park rather forcefully. At this point.

913
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: We've taken SNNAMI nominations throughout the program. A few good

914
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: ones came in over the last twenty minutes or.

915
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: So, hopefully not Green and Gold related. No, I still

916
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: think King Henry.

917
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: A number of I'm guessing Viking Texters seem to be

918
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: in favor of that one. I can't argue that. No,

919
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: it really is Boldie's blast. I think you think about it.

920
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: I think you figured you might kind of get that

921
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 1: sort of went right off the tongue, whether easily.

922
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: And just Quinnesota.

923
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: Perhaps Quinnesota, but three assists last night not bad. Or

924
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: we could go the other direction. Since we're talking about

925
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: the calendar of calamity, this being the fiftieth anniversary of

926
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: the first tail Mary against the Vikings, the Stabox Storm.

927
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it's fitting today. I mean it

928
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: is fitting today. I mean it's fifty years. A couple

929
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: of people said, why are you bringing this up today?

930
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: It's the fiftieth anniversary, And if I were not sitting here,

931
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: you don't think Dan might mention it. I mean, I

932
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: know he's talked about it a million times in the

933
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: thirties some years he's been here. But it's the fiftieth

934
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: anniversary today. So on the same token, how about snow Mary.

935
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: It's simple, it doesn't really there's no alliteration involved or anything,

936
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: but it sort of says it.

937
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 2: You know, it's the you just have to think about it.

938
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: The snow Mary, I've actually got one because and I

939
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: know You're going to get to it eventually, but I

940
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: figure may as well just play it now. It could

941
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 3: be snow, because that is another anniversary which I have

942
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 3: ready for you if you want it.

943
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll get to it in a moment.

944
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's another It's crazy again, of all days

945
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: for Dan not to be here. This when Dan Minnesota

946
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: sent me the list of all the calamitous things that

947
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: have Befallen Minnesota sports teams on December twenty eighth, I

948
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: read them and said I wrote back to him and said,

949
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: this has to be the worst day ever. Read this

950
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: has to be December twenty eighth, has to be the

951
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: most calamitous day. He said, well, top five. But I

952
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: got a couple others top of MYA. Of course, you do,

953
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: you do, and we'll get to the competitors. But this

954
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: one here, December twenty eighth, This one, here's what she

955
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: got besides the fiftieth anniversary of the Hail Mary December

956
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: twenty eighth, nineteen seventy five. In nineteen ninety six, Vikings

957
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 1: lost a wild card game to Dallas and got blown

958
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: out forty to fifteen. In the year two thousand, the

959
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: Gophers blew a twenty four point lead to North Carolina

960
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: State in something called the Micron PC Bowl and lost

961
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: thirty eight to thirty.

962
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 3: Now that's devastating. Losing the Micron PC Bowl.

963
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how you pick up the pieces after that.

964
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what you do, but a twenty four

965
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: point lead is significant. As you just mentioned, in twenty

966
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: oh three, the Vikings blew an eleven point lead to Arizona,

967
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: knocking them out of the playoffs, putting Green Bay into

968
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You may all not remember it, but it

969
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: sounded something like this.

970
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: Here is the season's on the line. Two receivers left

971
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: and right.

972
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 5: The town takes the snap, he steps up, he's all by.

973
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: Himself, fires into the end zone. Got pots down.

974
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 5: No, no, the Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of

975
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 5: the playoffs.

976
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was today, December twenty eighth. I was at

977
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: Lambo that day, so I didn't see the game, but

978
00:49:55,719 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: I was at Lambeau and just remember the joy full celebration,

979
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: the exuberance when they showed the play showed the final

980
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: score several years later, all for the next several years,

981
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: I was at the time working at the fan and

982
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 1: the sales as a sales guy at the time, and

983
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: for years that no became my email notification whenever I

984
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: get an email, just just the no.

985
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: And so I always had the value.

986
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in a cube with like back in the day,

987
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: all the salespeople actually worked here, like we had a

988
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: central place.

989
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: Really, we were all sort of sitting in cubes together.

990
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: That's weird.

991
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: So being the annoyed exactly, being the annoying guy was

992
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: people would hear that many many times a day, and

993
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: that that served me well. That was twenty two years

994
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: ago today. The Nathan Pool catch, I think he got

995
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: keys to Green Bay. Nathan Pool made the catch, got

996
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: keys to the city after making that catch. And then

997
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: finally on this day in two thousand and nine, Adrian

998
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: Peterson fumbled in overtime in Chicago. The won that game

999
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: on the next play. That loss probably cost the Vikings

1000
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: home field advantage in the playoffs. That's the year they

1001
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: went to New Orleans in the NFC championshipame with Brett Farve,

1002
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,479
Speaker 1: and we all know how that ended. Had that game

1003
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 1: been in Minnesota and Brett Farv had led the Vikings

1004
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl, perhaps a Super Bowl victory, I

1005
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: don't know. If I would have survived, if I would

1006
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: have had to live the rest of my life hearing

1007
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: from Viking.

1008
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: Fans saying.

1009
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: We had Brett Farr for two years, you had him

1010
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: for sixteen. He's got as many rings for us as

1011
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: he does with you. That would have been a difficult

1012
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: thing for me to deal with for the rest of

1013
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: my life. So thank you Adrian Peterson for the fumble.

1014
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 5: Now he fires over the middle intercepted. I can't believe

1015
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 5: what I'm seeing right now. It was intercepted by crazy

1016
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 5: porter for your side to the party, and John Sullivan

1017
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 5: runs him down at the forty seven yard line. You've

1018
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 5: got to be kidding me. I can't believe what I

1019
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 5: just saw.

1020
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: You're just trying to get the text line going, now,

1021
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: aren't you.

1022
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 3: It's it's almost a little you know, I'm lashing out

1023
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 3: last time.

1024
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: It was a rough night for Packer fans, so we're

1025
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,959
Speaker 1: just trying to do anything to make ourselves feel better.

1026
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: That was not December twenty eighth, that play, obviously, but

1027
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: as long as we mentioned it, so all one, two, three,

1028
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: six calamitous events had been fallen Minnesota sports fans. On

1029
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 1: December twenty eighth, Again, Mount rushmore of days, for sure.

1030
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: I asked Dan Minnesota, you know what day could possibly

1031
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: be worse than that? Like, how could there be more? Well,

1032
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: he gave me January seventeenth. Now this is not volume.

1033
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: There aren't six events. There are only three. But you

1034
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: could argue that the three on January seventeenth were all

1035
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: so stupendously calamitous that as a group it usurps the sixth.

1036
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: We just went through on December twenty eighth. Here's what's

1037
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: happened on January seventeenth, nineteen eighty eight NFC Championship game.

1038
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: Darren Nelson drops the pass at the goal line. I

1039
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: remember that day very well because I was doing TV

1040
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: sports that day in Austin KALTV in Austin, I was

1041
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: the weekend sports guy and I was doing the ten

1042
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: o'clock Sports that night. I showed the highlights of that

1043
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: game and had to act heartbroken, crestfallen. Although I didn't

1044
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: hide my packerd leanings back then people knew I was

1045
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: a packer guy. But felt bad. Yeah see that, No,

1046
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: you hate to see that. That's just the worst. And

1047
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: Darren Nelson had to deal live with that and the

1048
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: fans wrath forever so that happened on January seventeenth. Eleven

1049
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 1: years later, nineteen ninety nine. You know where I'm going here,

1050
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: the most calamitous Vikings moment since they fail Mary, It

1051
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: may be worse wide left Gary Anderson NFC Championship game

1052
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,479
Speaker 1: had missed a field goal all season, could have gotten

1053
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: a little closer, but knew he wasn't going to miss did,

1054
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,959
Speaker 1: and the Falcons get to go on, and the Viking

1055
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: season's over. I mean, for those of that age that

1056
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: are old enough, that's that's their most horrible Viking moment ever.

1057
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: This January seventeenth. And then finally eight years later, in

1058
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: twenty oh seven, the Golden Gophers hired Tim Brewster as

1059
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: their head coach, and the rest is history. Those are

1060
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: three rather calamitous events on one day, January seventeenth. He

1061
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: did offer up one more date, which will throw out quickly,

1062
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: October sixth. Again volume here, there's six of them, six

1063
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: things on January. On October sixth, nineteen sixty three, Viking's

1064
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: worst home loss ever nineteen sixty nine, Twins swept in

1065
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: the American League Championship Series. In two thousand, the Wild

1066
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: lose their first game.

1067
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: That's it.

1068
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: Feat But okay, I'm devastating. I guess sometimes that's suppose

1069
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 1: it had to happen. In twenty oh two, the pole

1070
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: At family finally admitted to being in favor of contracting

1071
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 1: the Twins and letting that team go away.

1072
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: They were on board with that. That came out on

1073
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 2: October sixth, twenty.

1074
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 1: Oh two, and there's still hanging around exactly just another

1075
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: first name. Yes, you know that, it's Tom Stern. Twenty

1076
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 1: oh five was the love Boat Cruise? Also on October sixth,

1077
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: was the love Boat A lovely night. I'm sure you know.

1078
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: The sun was out. It was warm and mild on

1079
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: October sixth, little Indian summer. And then one year later,

1080
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: the Twins were swept out of the American League Division

1081
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: Series on October sixth.

1082
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: So that's a good one.

1083
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean those are those are three calamitous days

1084
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: on the calendar, today being one of them. And again

1085
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: I feel a little bit badly that Dan wasn't here

1086
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 1: to enjoy that. That this is his bit and I'm

1087
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: proud to be able to sort of take it over

1088
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 1: for a day. But this this is just an epic

1089
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 1: day for Minnesota sports fans. I think the The good

1090
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: news is what could possibly happen today to add to

1091
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: the list. Right, there's nothing wild. Don't play right, wolves

1092
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: don't play go for basketball. I don't think they play.

1093
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they're safe.

1094
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: I think we're safe from adding another to the December

1095
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 1: twenty eighth list today.

1096
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 3: Do you remember the like the old Facebook post where

1097
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 3: you could say marked safe from Hurricane Irma or whatever.

1098
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: I think we're marked safe from calamity twenty.

1099
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 1: Five Minnesota Sports. I think we are at December twenty eighth.

1100
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: Thanks to Dan from Minnesota for supplying all the info.

1101
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: It's it's fun stuff and we could certainly do it

1102
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin too. It bore all of you and you

1103
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: don't care. But we don't worry. We have our calamitous

1104
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: days as well. We could start with December twenty seven,

1105
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, the night that Packers defense didn't show

1106
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: up in a game where they had a chance to

1107
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 1: win the division.

1108
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: Still, we actually can't do that.

1109
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: We're not allowed to experience heartbreak as a Oh that's

1110
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 3: so we were not allowed.

1111
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: Because we've had a couple of rings in the last

1112
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: thirty years. So that's sohow we have no more emotions

1113
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: my apologies. Let's step away, come back to tuckson World

1114
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: Juniors and dive into the NFL calendar and the schedule

1115
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: today and the rest of this regular season and what

1116
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: the border battle might look like a week from tomorrow.

1117
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: Sunday sermons rolls on after these, we're back at ten

1118
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: twenty Sunday sermons on the fans synecon for Barrero. A

1119
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: couple of year. Are done with the packer talk, the

1120
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: calamity talk. It's like, can we can we lighten things

1121
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: up a little bit? I think we're done. I think

1122
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: we're done with the packer talk.

1123
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 2: Over the talk.

1124
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, yes, I was done at nine o'clock.

1125
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: It was an hour from hell for sure. I gotta

1126
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: go home and reade a blog about it Zone coverage

1127
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: dot com. That'll be the final bit of therapy for me.

1128
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: Drew Texan at the Bradshawn Brian Kfean text line six

1129
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: four six eighty six. Dave, I'm delivering Amazon parcels for

1130
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: the good old US Postal Service and a blizzard and

1131
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: Marshall could be police have some more uplifting talk than

1132
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: all these calamities.

1133
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: Yes, we'll move on.

1134
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: Sorry, Drew, It's just one of those days again, one

1135
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: of a few on the calendar that just is so

1136
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: ripe for bringing out the the memories, a vote of

1137
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 1: what fans went through on this day, and and Dan

1138
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: would be I think appalled if I didn't address all

1139
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: the calamities today that it falls on a Sunday, so

1140
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: you got to live it up.

1141
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 2: I think that's our biggest defense. I think Dan would

1142
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: have done the same thing. The fan has lured. The

1143
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: World Juniors are in town in St. Paul.

1144
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: Are they playing in Minneapolis too, because I've seen Minneapolis

1145
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: and same par Are they play in multiple places?

1146
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 3: Yep, so Group A. I don't know which it's A

1147
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 3: or B. But the USA group is playing at Granksino Arena.

1148
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 3: Team Canada group is playing at three AM Arena at

1149
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 3: Marucci in Dickey Town.

1150
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: Gotch.

1151
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 3: So that's how they're splitting up, so they're having multiple

1152
00:58:58,720 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 3: games at the same time.

1153
00:58:59,560 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: Gotcha.

1154
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: US beat Switzerland two to one. They are Switzerland has

1155
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: no answers for Team USA. They are now zero twenty

1156
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: six and two all time in the World Juniors against

1157
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: the US Gopher and Chaskea native Brodie Zemer with a

1158
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: goal in that win, over Switzerland. They have now beaten

1159
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: Switzerland and Germany as they march on. I've gotten a

1160
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: number of techts from folks bemoaning the attendance issues in

1161
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: the games being played by non US teams. You know

1162
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: the Slovakia versus Germany game where there's a lot of

1163
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: empty seats. Been winning a long time to host an

1164
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: event like this, obviously, and since the eighties. I believe yes,

1165
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: and this I'm told this is the state of hockey.

1166
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: It's a lot of games, it's holiday time, there's a

1167
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: lot going on, it's a big market. There are other options.

1168
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,479
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts when you hear people complaining that

1169
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 1: they're seeing a lot of empty seats in these games.

1170
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1171
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 3: I'm torn on it because you know, when it's up

1172
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 3: in Canada or over in Europe, they're usually attended fairly well.

1173
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 3: I think the US game looked like a ton of fun.

1174
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 3: Can't wait to experience it for myself tomorrow. I don't

1175
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,919
Speaker 3: know it it's a holiday season, like I get where

1176
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 3: the state of hockey, and you got to be there

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01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 3: and I want to be there too.

1178
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1179
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of it because I

1180
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 3: just don't know how it compares to if it's just

1181
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 3: visually it just looks more empty, or if it truly is,

1182
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 3: like the attendance is truly down in those you know,

1183
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 3: a Germany Slovakia game or whatever, Switzerland and Austria game.

1184
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 3: So I really don't know what to make heads and

1185
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 3: tails of it, but I'm happy that the US is

1186
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 3: at least getting supported on that.

1187
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: The game you're attending tomorrow, is Tamosa playing that one?

1188
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it would be Slovakia. I believe they play,

1189
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 3: so it'll be a good game. They're a good team.

1190
01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 2: But this is you.

1191
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 3: I mean, they're going for a repeat, which would be

1192
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 3: unbelievable to do on home ice, would be awesome.

1193
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: The event goes for a couple of weeks, right, so

1194
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: maybe once the get past the first of the year

1195
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: and things are back to normal, maybe as things line

1196
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: down the final five six days, we'll see folks looking

1197
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: to get in there and seeing the games that are

1198
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: really mattering down the stretch.

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01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 3: I'm I know this is a crappy excuse, but you also,

1200
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 3: I mean there's holidays, there's midweek terrorism, there's high school

1201
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 3: game terrorism, there's youth hockey schedule terrorism. I mean, just

1202
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 3: because those games aren't being as attended those other games,

1203
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 3: you know, doesn't make us any less the state of hockey.

1204
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 3: We're got other high I mean, I don't there's really

1205
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 3: no right answer for it to excuse it, but I

1206
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 3: do think there are other factors that people have to consider.

1207
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 2: If that makes sense, you know, not excusing it without.

1208
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: Excusing Yeah, well, I just I I think you talk

1209
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: about there's so many kids playing right now, and I

1210
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: know that because Double Team, my Saturday partners. You know,

1211
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: hockey Dad, he's all over the place every day. But

1212
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: you'd like to think that with this event being here

1213
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: finally that there's an opportunity for all these hockey playing

1214
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: kids to get a chance to go see some of

1215
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: these games. And the fact that they're putting it in a

1216
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: couple of locations and it's stretched out and there's so

1217
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: many games to see that I hope there is that

1218
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: opportunity because for a lot of these kids, this is

1219
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: their dream, like this is the next step, like when

1220
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: they're eighteen nineteen, this could be their future, and they

1221
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: get a chance to watch it when they're nine, ten eleven.

1222
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: So I'd love to see them get that opportunity, Keith

1223
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: Texan again, can you please get to more positive sports talk?

1224
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: My in laws are in town, so it's already miserable here.

1225
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: I feel you, Keith, and yes, I will do our best.

1226
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: This is one of those mornings where, if you can

1227
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: cue the Rick Patino SoundBite, all the negativity that's in

1228
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: this town sucks. You know. I woke up this morning

1229
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: in a pretty negative mood. I knew a snowstorm was coming.

1230
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: My favorite football team was a no show. The Timberwolves

1231
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: were also a no show. And I'm getting up to

1232
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: drive to Saint Louis Park to talk for three hours

1233
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: about sports when my favorite teams looked terrible yesterday. So

1234
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: negativity is kind of again. This is Morero's show, you know,

1235
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: and he sort of has that, you know, and his

1236
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: DNA a little bit that that's how he's he's wired,

1237
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: and I can I can play off some of that.

1238
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: It was a it was a rough night and in

1239
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: a rough morning, coming snow is absolutely I was told

1240
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: one o'clock, two o'clocks with a heavy stuff, and maybe

1241
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: this isn't the heavy stuff.

1242
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 2: This feels like the heavy stuff.

1243
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,959
Speaker 1: This feels like we've got a building like thirty feet

1244
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: away and I can barely see the building at this point,

1245
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: maybe stretching it just a little bit, but it's coming

1246
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: down and a pretty good clip.

1247
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 3: I mean, if we want to do positive sports talkers

1248
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 3: that are local, the only thing is the Wild right now, Yeah,

1249
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 3: that's it.

1250
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 2: I mean Quinnesota. I mean here, I'll presoft cutting through

1251
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 2: the neutral zone.

1252
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 3: The real capriesoff in on side, worked at the U

1253
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 3: centric police scot.

1254
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 5: Went fit it over time, rippling one under the crossbar.

1255
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 2: What a beautifully set up passing.

1256
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 5: Way, and the Wild stunned the Jets and they went

1257
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 5: at four three and overtime.

1258
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: See that's positivity. I actually needed that just then. And

1259
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm not even a hockey guy, but that actually lifted

1260
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: me up a little bit. That joe' donald brings the energy.

1261
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: Appreciate that he's outstanding. And there's nothing quite like a

1262
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: game winning hockey goal call. You know, It's just it's

1263
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: so final, and it's just so sudden more than anything.

1264
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 2: That's what I love.

1265
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 3: That's one of the things I love about hockey, and

1266
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 3: one of the things I love about soccer too, is

1267
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 3: these sudden explosion moments that you get you don't get

1268
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 3: that in basketball, and yeah, slam dunk, but you know

1269
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 3: they're still running back to play defense right after that.

1270
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 3: This sudden explosion and celebration moment, there's nothing like it

1271
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 3: makes hockey so much fun.

1272
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 2: I get it. I do.

1273
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: Talking about the World Juniors, Chris text in, they want

1274
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty dollars for lousy nosebleed seats. That's

1275
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,479
Speaker 1: part of the problem, is that true. Our tickets really

1276
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: pricey for these games.

1277
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 3: I saw I was perusing the other day and I

1278
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 3: saw one game that was like ninety for Lower Bowl

1279
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 3: and then you could probably get in for like sixty

1280
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 3: or seventy up top.

1281
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. I think that was

1282
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: that for a US game or just a random.

1283
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 3: I want to say it was a US game, but

1284
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 3: I'm not entirely sure. You also got to keep in

1285
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 3: mind too, I mean, the Frozen four was here not

1286
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 3: too long ago. Wasn't exactly sold out there either, So

1287
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's just a because wild games

1288
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 3: are you know. Yeah, they had a little bit of

1289
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 3: a dip, you know, in the recent years, but they

1290
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 3: had a long sellout streak at what was the Excell

1291
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 3: Energy Center, So it's we support our own. I just

1292
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 3: don't know if it's a well, if it's between my kids'

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01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 3: games or this Slovakia game, which one am I going

1294
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 3: to go to. It stinks all around that it's not.

1295
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 3: But I still think the US team will get supported.

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01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 2: It'll be a good environment.

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01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: It continues obviously through the next ten eleven days. Your

1298
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: Wild to be on the road now, kind of like

1299
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: the Spurs when they have rodeos coming to Antonio and

1300
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: the Spurs are gone for two weeks. The Wild will

1301
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: have that kind of a journey now, and they certainly

1302
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: got things off on the right start last night with

1303
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: the win here at home.

1304
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 2: Seven game road trip.

1305
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: Now over the next two weeks for your Minnesota Wild

1306
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: as they hit the road with the World Juniors in town.

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01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's pause one final time. We'll come back.

1308
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: We'll wrap it up. Final segment, Looking ahead to the

1309
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: week seventeen slate, Some of the games on the schedule today,

1310
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: what the playoff scenarios look like. The situation in the

1311
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: National Football League where the Vikings sit heading into Week

1312
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: eighteen and the Pack as well as those two teams

1313
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: will meet a week from today to close out the

1314
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: regular season at us Bank Stadium with very little on

1315
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: the line for either team, which is not what we

1316
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: like when their border battle is upon us. Let's talk

1317
01:06:45,200 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: to some NFL Sunday sermons when we come back. A

1318
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: lot of texts coming into the bratch on Bryant Cafe

1319
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: and text line reguarding the World Juniors and the ticket

1320
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: pricing from fans, from the snarky from seven oh one

1321
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: guy who says, you have to face it, fellas, hockey

1322
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: is a niche sport. Even with the Wild doing well,

1323
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: only about a third of the population is following it.

1324
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: That was find decent. Again, that was not a relative.

1325
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody in the seven oh one, So

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01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: uh there's that. But other interesting texts coming in, like

1327
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: this guy calls himself a tanka. I you dad, trying

1328
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: to get on my good side. Obviously maybe we know

1329
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: each other, I don't know. He writes for guarding World Juniors.

1330
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: What're the organizers doing to fill the seats? Because we're

1331
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: the state of hockey. Everybody's already committed to hockey activities

1332
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: this week. Maybe the organizers should reach out to hockey

1333
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: organizations with comper, affordable tickets to fill the arena. You know,

1334
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: not a bad idea. Let kids get in there. You know,

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01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: those beend money once they're there, especially if the tickets

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01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: are free or cheap.

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01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 3: Well update on that. So the numbers that I've read

1338
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 3: were from resale. I thought, you know, I remember hal

1339
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 3: We tweeting about got to go to the official site.

1340
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 3: So I did so during the break, I went to

1341
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 3: the official site. This is Monday, so tomorrow the noon

1342
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 3: game Germany Sweden. Get in price, just get in this.

1343
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 3: These are club level seats, by the way, twenty bucks.

1344
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 3: That's not bad at all. Not just walk in the

1345
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 3: door twenty dollars.

1346
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: A week ago there were probably one sixty, right, because

1347
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: now they want people in the seats they you know, well,

1348
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: regardless it's low, you can get in now.

1349
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get in the door. Price for Team USA

1350
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 3: taken on Slovakia. Now this is you're in two eighteen,

1351
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 3: but just you want to be there. Thirty six bucks, okay,

1352
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 3: not bad at all. The lowest lower bowl I'm seeing.

1353
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 3: I see one for sixty eight in the lower bowl.

1354
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 3: Sixty eight. Yeah, so you can be in the car

1355
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 3: owners for less than seventy five bucks a pop. So

1356
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 3: it's not ridiculous, and if you just want to get in,

1357
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 3: it's it's relatively cheap, so covenant clean up on my part.

1358
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 3: If you go to the actual ticketmaster, you can get

1359
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 3: in for pret pretty fair.

1360
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: I think what it sounds like is if you were

1361
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: trying to plan for something a while ago, that's when

1362
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: you had sticker shock. Another another text came in. Our

1363
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: hockey team was planning a team outing this from six'

1364
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: five to one. Guy we were planning a team outing

1365
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 1: A us junior tickets were one hundred and twenty.

1366
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 2: Dollars gophers were way.

1367
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: Less we chose The gopher, game and THE Us junior

1368
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 1: tickets went to half price a few weeks. Later SO

1369
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: i think it's one of those deals where you just

1370
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 1: had to be patient because they were hoping to get

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01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: something and, realize, wait there's a whole lot of games

1372
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: and a whole lot of seats and no one's going

1373
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: to pay that kind of. Money and now if you,

1374
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: WAIT i think you might have been served. Well so

1375
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: you can get.

1376
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 2: In.

1377
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: Now it might be last, minute they already have, plans

1378
01:09:58,600 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: but if you still want to, go you can, get

1379
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: as you, say for an affordable. Amount all, right let's

1380
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: put your attention to The National Football. League things have

1381
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: kind of clarified pretty. Much it's rare to be sitting

1382
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: here on A sunday of week seventeen and basically know

1383
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 1: every playoff team already that's. In we just have two

1384
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: division titles to be. Decided all the wildcard teams are.

1385
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: In only one team has clinched their seed in the,

1386
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: playoffs and that would be The Green Bay packers or

1387
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: the seventh seed for the third third consecutive. Season might call.

1388
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: That you know how those hamsters spin on the, wheels

1389
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: you know in the. Cage that's kind of The Green

1390
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: Bay packers right. Now that hamster kind of spin on the,

1391
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: wheel just that seventh. Seed maybe it will rise up

1392
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: and surprise someone on one week and then we'll fall

1393
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 1: do our.

1394
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 3: Doom, actually the hamster just got off the wheel because

1395
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 3: it didn't feel like running.

1396
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: Anymore always here's where it sits divisions clinched in THE

1397
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: nfc The. North The bears have won The north for

1398
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: the first time since twenty. EIGHTEEN i have to wash

1399
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: my mouth out after saying. That and The eagles have

1400
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: clinched THE Nfc. East we know that The, Seahawks Rams

1401
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: niners And packers are in the, playoffs and The panthers

1402
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 1: And bucks are fighting it out for THE Nfc. South

1403
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: that's the only thing in. Question and then, seeding obviously

1404
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: the number one seed is still up in the. Air

1405
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: The bears just need to win these last two games,

1406
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: again just they have to go To San francisco tonight

1407
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: and when that's not going to be, easy anything but a.

1408
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: Gimme but they're only three point. UNDERDOGS i, mean it's

1409
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 1: expected to be a very tight. Game San francisco has

1410
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 1: been living on, mediocrity beating teams that are just. Lousy

1411
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: they're going to get a good team. Tonight if The

1412
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 1: bears win out And seattle loses one of their last two,

1413
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: games The.

1414
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 2: Bears are the number.

1415
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: One the road to The Super bowl through THE nfc

1416
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: will go Through Soldier, field and at this where five

1417
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 1: years from now it would go Through Gary National stadium

1418
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: for The Indiana. Bears it will not go through the

1419
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 1: icy snow Film Soldier.

1420
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: Field love that.

1421
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: One The seahawks are At carolina. Today they're favored by a.

1422
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: Touchdown that's not an easy. Game Though carolina is trying

1423
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: to win their. Division they could lose that, game AND

1424
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: i forget Who seattle Plays week, eighteen can you dial

1425
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: it up real? Quick it's obviously a division. GAME i

1426
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: don't remember who they have or where it. Is it's

1427
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: probably at home because they're on the road. Today i'm

1428
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: guessing it's a home game For seattle In week eight t.

1429
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 2: It looks like it is forty nine ers on the.

1430
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: Road they're At San. Francisco oh, okay so very easy

1431
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: to See seattle losing one of these. TWO i think

1432
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: they'll probably Beat carolina. Today they've been very good on the.

1433
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: Road but if that game at The niners is for

1434
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 1: a whole, lot that's going to be. Tough so there

1435
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 1: is a very non zero chance that The bear has

1436
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: earned the one seed in THE NFC. Afc the only

1437
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: division that's been clinched is THE Afc west that got

1438
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,560
Speaker 1: clinched yesterday when The texans knocked off The.

1439
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 2: Chargers.

1440
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 1: Denver is YOUR Afc west. Champ seaford mentioned it. Early

1441
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: it's the first year without Either, Mahomes brady Or manning

1442
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: in THE nfl. PLAYOFFS i think since eighteen forty, three

1443
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,640
Speaker 1: it's been a long time since one of those three

1444
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 1: quarterbacks were not a part of THE afc picture totally

1445
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: wide opening THE. Afc we know that The, Patriots, Jaguars, Bills,

1446
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: texans And chargers are in the playoffs and the only

1447
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: thing up for grabs is THE Afc North Ravens, steelers

1448
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: which will come down to those two teams playing next.

1449
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: Week The packers tried to Do Aaron rodgers a favor last.

1450
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 1: Night they did not accomplish that.

1451
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 2: GOAL i sent you the. Tweet, oh it was a great. Tweet,

1452
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 2: unbelievable was.

1453
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 3: Outstanding, well it was for one final time because they

1454
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,839
Speaker 3: could have Helped Aaron rodgers with the division Beaten. Ravens

1455
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 3: so for one final, time The Green Bay packers defense

1456
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 3: let Down Aaron rodgers.

1457
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 2: Broke it doesn't get a more poetic than.

1458
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: That that's AN a plus. Tweet there's not a. Whole

1459
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: if you, love, certainly if you love THE, nfl you're

1460
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: watching football. Today and if you're a fantasy football with

1461
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: a team in the, championship you're watching football today because

1462
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: this is the. Championship and AS i said, earlier for

1463
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: any team that might have still Had Derrick henry and

1464
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: there earned a chance to, play because most teams probably

1465
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: were out of it if they Had, henry they won

1466
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 1: their championship last. NIGHT i had two hundred and sixteen

1467
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: yards four, touchdowns and my poor, Son, jackson in a

1468
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: championship of His Guillotine, league Benched Derrick henry yesterday AND

1469
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: i forget for. Who it was a flex. Spot, yeah

1470
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: he's he's with his girlfriend In, jersey So i'm sure

1471
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 1: she's calming him. Down But i'm sure it was an

1472
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 1: ugly night to be around my son last night watching

1473
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: What henry did while his while he had him on the.

1474
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: Bench I'm i'm probably gonna be focused early On pittsburgh At,

1475
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 1: cleveland which sounds. Awful why would you watch The Cleveland?

1476
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: Browns terrible, team terrible? City cue the common. Bit Since

1477
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: i'm filling in For common that. Tomorrow that's a queue for.

1478
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,600
Speaker 1: Tomorrow i'm in noon to three. Tomorrow it's you and, me,

1479
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: right it is noon to three. Tomorrow we will Have

1480
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: Ritt robson will join to talk is one of my

1481
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: favorite chroniclers of The Minnesota. Timberwolves robson will join about

1482
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: one thirty and we'll react to everything that goes down obviously,

1483
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: today But i'm GONNA i want to See Miles garrett

1484
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 1: set THE nfl sack record by bringing Down Aaron rodgers.

1485
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: Today and you, know part of me was, Thinking, GOD

1486
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 1: i kind of Hope pittsburgh gets up and to play for.

1487
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 1: Today like If baltimore had lost last, Night pittsburgh probably

1488
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: would have Benched rogers, today would no need to play.

1489
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 1: Him now he's got to play In cleveland in that

1490
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 1: weather Against Miles, garrett AND i don't even know what

1491
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: the odds. ARE i guarantee You Miles garrett's gonna Sack

1492
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: Aaron rodgers today AND i want to watch that.

1493
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 2: Live So i'm looking forward to.

1494
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,719
Speaker 3: That, yeah that's a fun one that sticks out early

1495
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 3: on in it stinks that they're actually playing for something

1496
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 3: because that means that our club also.

1497
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 2: Stinks there is.

1498
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 1: That, yeah so that's going on, there AREN'T i, mean

1499
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,759
Speaker 1: if you look at the, slate obviously tonight's Game chicago

1500
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,719
Speaker 1: At San, francisco this is a chance for The bears

1501
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 1: to really make a.

1502
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:00,879
Speaker 2: STATEMENT i mean.

1503
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 1: You could say the motivation is dampened a bit because

1504
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: now they won The north thanks to what happened last.

1505
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: Night they know they're no worse than the three. Seed

1506
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 1: they know they're hosting a playoff. Game but AS i just,

1507
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 1: said you don't have to connect too many dots to

1508
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: Lead chicago to the number one seed in THE. Nfc

1509
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: and now this is a really, good tough road test

1510
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: for This bears. Team and you, know remember it Was

1511
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 1: Matt nagy who took The bears to THE nfc Title

1512
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: north title in twenty. EIGHTEEN i think that was his

1513
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 1: first season, Too so what the. YEAR i think that

1514
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: was The trubisky. Year so What Ben johnson has done

1515
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: is is, amazing but it's not unprecedented because it happened

1516
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 1: just seven years. Ago maybe they should just fire their

1517
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 1: coach every year because the new guy tends to lead

1518
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 1: them to THE Nfc north title at least at least

1519
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: sometime somebody asked me if If Aaron rodgers is going

1520
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 1: to take a dive to complete the circle for the sack,

1521
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 1: record you may not recall The.

1522
01:16:54,320 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 2: Gastino back in the, day where, YES i think he.

1523
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 1: DID i, mean if you see, it he just kind

1524
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: of caved in because he had nowhere to go and

1525
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 1: he just sort of went down and Let gaston don't have.

1526
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 1: It it was an anti climactic way to get the sack.

1527
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 2: Record.

1528
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: Uh it was interesting to see just recently How it

1529
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: still Irks Mark gastono to no end that the sack

1530
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 1: record that he had was usurped Because Brett favre allowed

1531
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 1: what's his name from The. Giants why CAN'T i think

1532
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: of the guy that Straight, ham straight, hand thank, you

1533
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 1: straight hand Broke astono's record by taking a, dive if you.

1534
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 1: Will why are our hotlines just completely blowing up right?

1535
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 2: Now there must have? Said is that what it?

1536
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 1: Is so, Literally i've never seen this, happen like we

1537
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,600
Speaker 1: have four lines just blinking. Randomly usually that MEANS i

1538
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: said something completely moronic and, ridiculous BUT i just couldn't

1539
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: immediately think of what that might.

1540
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 2: Be It's Michael, Strahan that's what you're thinking. Of that's

1541
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 2: probably what it. Is ALL i can think of the

1542
01:17:59,520 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 2: gap to.

1543
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 1: Guy who's the gap tooth guy that's On Good Morning,

1544
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: America thank.

1545
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 3: You one of the top five most uncomfortable interactions ever

1546
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 3: recorded on.

1547
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 2: Camera the gast to No, One, well, yeah that was that's.

1548
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: Tough that was like a memorabilia convention or something right

1549
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: where he Confronted farv like this is what twenty five

1550
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: years later something like.

1551
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 3: That, NOW i think If, FARV i, mean he did

1552
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 3: go down, easy but he had, where, kid you, know

1553
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 3: where to go, anyway just the difference he didn't.

1554
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 1: ALLOW i think he didn't Allow straighthand to just envelop

1555
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: him and take him. Down he just crumpled to the.

1556
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: Ground SO i Mean straighthand just basically had to touch.

1557
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 1: HIM i think that's what rubbed people the wrong, Way

1558
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: like he didn't like wrap him up and bring him.

1559
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 2: Down he just had to, basically, okay you're.

1560
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 3: Down but if he didn't do, that he probably still

1561
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 3: gets the sack, anyways most. Likely, so but, yeah that's,

1562
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 3: uh that's a tough. WATCH i can't get through that

1563
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 3: whole like, clip it's only like two minutes. LONG i

1564
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,560
Speaker 3: can't even get through it because it's just so uncomfortable

1565
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 3: to watch it is.

1566
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, uh the inevitable texts are all pouring. In

1567
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 1: none of these, sacks none of these records meaning any

1568
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 1: because they all play seventeen games, now so everything's. Different

1569
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 1: how far along that path do you want to?

1570
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 2: Go?

1571
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 1: RIGHT i mean, Yes WHEN i was a, kid they

1572
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: played fourteen, games and a thousand yard rushing season was

1573
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 1: a huge. Accomplishment three thousand yards passing was rare back.

1574
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 1: Then when they played fourteen, games and obviously it was

1575
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 1: a different league they didn't throw as. Much but come,

1576
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 1: on we can do this in every, sport Right you

1577
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 1: could do it in baseball two with the advent of

1578
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 1: the one hundred and sixty two games that. CHANGED i understand, That,

1579
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 1: okay we all understand. That it's still a remarkable. Accomplishment

1580
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 1: and he got to twenty two sacks in the sixteen,

1581
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: games which is what we've all lived with for, many many.

1582
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: Years no asterisks for, me and any records that are

1583
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: set in sports time marches. On records are set and

1584
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: we accept them for what they, are and for, ME

1585
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: i don't put asks asterisks on them. Whatsoever So i'm

1586
01:19:54,479 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: looking forward to To Cleveland pittsburgh, Today philadelphia At. Buffalo you,

1587
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: know as far as name value, goes that's that's always

1588
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: going to be an interesting. Game i'm curious to know

1589
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: the Motivation philadelphia has going Into. Buffalo you, know in,

1590
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: part they need to show, that you, know they are

1591
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 1: a LEGIT nfc. Contender they haven't looked much like that this,

1592
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 1: year but in, reality they're fairly locked IN i think

1593
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: to two or, three and that's not a huge difference, there,

1594
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 1: unless of, course you're the two and you get to

1595
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 1: host the three if it goes that. Way But i'm

1596
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: curious to see What buffalo does today in a year, where,

1597
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: again going back To, august we all knew The chiefs

1598
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 1: are going to win The, west The bills are going

1599
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: to win The, North ravens were going to or the

1600
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 1: Whatever East. North my direction's messed up and it hasn't

1601
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:44,799
Speaker 1: gone anything like. That and Now buffalo is a wildcard,

1602
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: team but you, know still can win the division that

1603
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: they still had plenty to play. FOR i Think buffalo

1604
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 1: does need to show today against a really good opponent

1605
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: at home that they are a legit team to be taken,

1606
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: seriously BECAUSE i don't, know it's weird to say. It

1607
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 1: THE afc is so wide open with these these up

1608
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: and comers Like denver And New england And jacksonville at the.

1609
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 2: Top what do we Think buffalo's got?

1610
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: GOING i, mean do we still consider them because they

1611
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: Have Josh allen that just get him into the, party

1612
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: Because alan could take them. Anywhere he's dealing with a foot.

1613
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: Injury he's you, know gonna play, today but we don't

1614
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 1: know how close to one hundred percent he. IS i

1615
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 1: think we can learn a little bit about If buffalo's

1616
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: a serious contender against The eagles. Today, again not a

1617
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: whole lot of games to really get into because the

1618
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 1: games kind of, suck but that, one to me has

1619
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 1: some some.

1620
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 3: Interest it is and there and the name value is

1621
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 3: what Really but when you break it, down it's, like

1622
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 3: well it's not that, great but the name value in

1623
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 3: the you, know players playing is. GOOD i think the

1624
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 3: most interesting one not to derail, you no, please but

1625
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 3: the TANKATHON i think will be kind of a fun

1626
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 3: spectacle to. Watch it'll be like watching a car crash

1627
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 3: or a car.

1628
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 2: Chase IT'S i.

1629
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 3: Don't know how with the Whole Max crosby, thing AND

1630
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 3: i don't know what they're gonna. Do and do you

1631
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 3: if you're The, GIANTS i, mean do you move on

1632
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 3: From Jackson dart if you've got the number one.

1633
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 2: Pick already for A Bertil train picks.

1634
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 1: Because that there's value even if you're not going to

1635
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 1: take the quarterback in draft. Capitol, no you're. Right we

1636
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 1: talked about it With. Seafert you, know they they shut

1637
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: Down Max, crosby they shut down Brock. Bauers those are

1638
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 1: their two. Superstars they have no interest in winning we've seen.

1639
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 2: Teams was It.

1640
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 1: Houston a couple of years ago that that When Lovey

1641
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 1: smith was a coach and the all the does lose

1642
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: the game to get the one, pick and they, said screw,

1643
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 1: that we're trying to. Win AND i turned Out houston's

1644
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: landed on their, feet obviously and they found a. Quarterback

1645
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: but huge ramifications for a meaningless. Game NOT i mean The,

1646
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: raiders if they get the number one, pick we know

1647
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: they're taking a. Quarterback but as you, said if The

1648
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 1: giants get the one, pick do they take a quarterback

1649
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 1: and move off a dart or do they trade? Down

1650
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 1: do they take somebody else at number? ONE i mean

1651
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 1: THAT'S i mean not That New York sports talk radio

1652
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 1: needs any more fodder things to talk about that avery

1653
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 1: them for the next four. Months if they have the

1654
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 1: number one, pick so that that game does it's going

1655
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,759
Speaker 1: to be, unwatchable but it will be interesting to. Follow

1656
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 1: and as an, eye you, guy AND i can't wait

1657
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: for The Rose Bowl thursday to watch the top Ranked hoosiers.

1658
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 2: Play there's your. POSITIVITY i do have something to look

1659
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 2: forward to this, week which is nice for.

1660
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: Me Fernando, mendoza their quarterback is a he Idolizes Tom.

1661
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 1: Brady that's that's his guy as a, kid that's been his.

1662
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: Player he's modeled his his career After that's what he

1663
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: looks up. To and it could turn out to be

1664
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,759
Speaker 1: that that team drafts, him the team That brady hartly

1665
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 1: owns drafts him number. One if he ends up going

1666
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 1: to The raiders and gets to learn From, brady he's

1667
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: drooling over that, possibility you know?

1668
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 3: That or, alternatively what if they take another offensive skilled

1669
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 3: guy or a defensive player one overall and then just

1670
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:54,520
Speaker 3: pick Up Malik willis.

1671
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 2: Changes. Everything someone's gonna do. It, yeah you, know think

1672
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 2: it'll be The. VIKINGS i.

1673
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: DON'T i my money right now Is. Arizona i'm saying The,

1674
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: RAIDERS i, know And i'm just, Thinking, oh do you

1675
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 1: tell me where do you Think willis plays next? Year

1676
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 1: arizona see him as a. Cardinal, well he's VERY i

1677
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 1: Mean kyler and him similar. Games you don't have to

1678
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: change the offense, completely because that's that's the. THING i

1679
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 1: got some fight back From vikings fans texting in AND

1680
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: i totally get. It if you Bring willison to compete with,

1681
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 1: McCarthy what are you doing with your.

1682
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 2: OFFENSE i, mean you, know.

1683
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 3: You, Know koc likes his offense in a particular. Way

1684
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 3: we're not going to redesign the whole offense for a

1685
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 3: running quarterback all of a, sudden which is not a.

1686
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 3: Rip let's just but on the offense Is ko's offense

1687
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 3: and who's going to run it.

1688
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: Best but on the other, hand When willis has come

1689
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: in to Relieve love over the last two, Seasons Green

1690
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: bay has completely changed how they call plays. Instantly it's

1691
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 1: becomes a completely different. Offense so it can be done

1692
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: if a coaching staffs up for, that but it's not

1693
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 1: as convenient to bring in another quarterback who plays a

1694
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 1: completely different style than The, so, Yeah, Raiders, giants if

1695
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 1: you love the, macob that's something to watch. TODAY i

1696
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: guess it's it's gonna, be you, know basically. Unwatchable it's

1697
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: not a great day for Red zone. Today there's just

1698
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 1: not a lot of great Games i've mentioned over the.

1699
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 1: YEARS i write a blog at zone coverage dot com

1700
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 1: WHERE i pick three underdogs every week of at least

1701
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 1: three points to cover the. Spreads my third year doing,

1702
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 1: IT i as we sit here week, Seventeen i'm twenty

1703
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: two to twenty five and, one which is not. Great but,

1704
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 1: Again i'm picking big. Dogs these are hard games to.

1705
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 1: Pick are you breaking? Even i'm kind Of i'm not

1706
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 1: quite breaking. Even i'm down just a. Couple But i'm

1707
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 1: looking at the games this week And i'm trying to

1708
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 1: find underdogs THAT i feel.

1709
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:42,799
Speaker 2: Confident AND i really.

1710
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 1: STRUGGLED I i settled on three AND i have to

1711
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 1: say and you can read it again at zone coverage dot.

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01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: Com click on The packer. Page look on the right.

1713
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: Side you'll see my columns. THERE i settled on The,

1714
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 1: colts who are catching five and a half points at

1715
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 1: home Against jacksonville after looking just awful defensively On monday

1716
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 1: night again In San. FRANCISCO i JUST i feel like

1717
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 1: The jaguars are due for kind of a. Letdown not

1718
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: that they won't win this, game BUT i think they

1719
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,520
Speaker 1: Let Philip rivers and The, colts who just got eliminated.

1720
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 2: Yesterday, OFFICIALLY i understand all.

1721
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: THAT i just have a feeling The colts hang around

1722
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 1: and cover the five and a. HALF i took The

1723
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 1: browns catching three against The steelers BECAUSE i do think

1724
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 1: that they are a much better team at, home AND

1725
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 1: i think they'd love to spoil The Aaron rodgers. Party

1726
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 1: and THEN i took The dolphins, again playing a Team

1727
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: Tampa bay everything to fight for division on the. Line

1728
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 1: miami's been a little gutty of. Late they're getting five

1729
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: and a half. POINTS i think they're going to stick around.

1730
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 1: Too so IF i could somehow sweep these three and

1731
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:41,679
Speaker 1: get to five, Hundred i'll feel very good about.

1732
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 3: Myself we mentioned the rapid decline of The packer season several.

1733
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 3: Times how in twenty real, minutes everyone gets. Hurt MICA's.

1734
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 3: Down season's, over or at least it feels that. Way,

1735
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 3: yep gotta be. Worse is one of your picks The?

1736
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 3: COLTS i mean they were number one. Seed here we

1737
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 3: Go Danny dimes and it all in a. Blink now they're.

1738
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 1: Eliminated, Yes and to take it to another, level they

1739
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: were so hyped up about what they had going for

1740
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: them they went and traded For Sauce gardner and gave

1741
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: up two number one picks to bring In Sauce. Gardner

1742
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,759
Speaker 1: he gets hurt all Of Michael parsons and their season

1743
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 1: implos to the point where their quarterback now may not

1744
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 1: be ready next. Season they don't have a number one

1745
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: pick to draft a. QUARTERBACK i, mean as bad as

1746
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 1: we might feel for our, Situation colts fans from where

1747
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 1: they were five six weeks ago to their, future it's just.

1748
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 3: Awful did we discover another Potential malik willis lamming Spot?

1749
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: Indianapolis think about? It, well they Have Anthony richardson still.

1750
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 1: TOO i mean you'd have to give up on him as. Well,

1751
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,719
Speaker 1: yeah he's no. Good did we settle on a Snow noami?

1752
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 1: Name as the snow continues to, Fall be safe out.

1753
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 1: THERE i know you've got to get home To richfield

1754
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 1: and You're Honda civic's lot riding.

1755
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 2: Low you'll be. Fine one hundred south or sixty two,

1756
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 2: east get out of her. Way just be. Careful blake

1757
01:27:59,240 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 2: for is.

1758
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: Coming, Yeah King Henry harry the Hit, Man, Boldies Blast

1759
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:10,799
Speaker 1: Stallback storm playing on the fiftieth. Anniversary bit Or Snow

1760
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: mary also playing on the fiftieth.

1761
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 2: ANNIVERSARY i still like sow or.

1762
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 1: Snow that's very good. Too thank, you so many good

1763
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 1: ones to go with for. Me for, you It's King.

1764
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 1: Henry he was the man last. Night he put a

1765
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 1: fork in The packers. Season that's our Snow nomy. Name

1766
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 1: honored to sit in For bump on my favorite. SHOW

1767
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 1: i hope you Enjoyed sunday. Sermons the fan is back.

1768
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 1: Tomorrow i'm in For common from noon to. Three hope

1769
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,879
Speaker 1: you'll tune, in enjoy your Football. Sunday build some, snowmen

1770
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 1: enjoy the snow and have a Great. Sunday everybody For

1771
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: Brett Blake. MOORE i Am dave Sinnecon Peace.

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01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 4: Outain