1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: All right, five after five ESPN fifteen thirty Moeger, thanks 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: for listening today. I got really good news for you 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: if you're a Red stan and we will get to 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: the smartest decision they've made. I don't think they get 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: nearly enough credit for us that they should today coming 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: up in just a few minutes, but first it's got 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: to San France super Bowl. You may have heard is Sunday. 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to do this because he's a cornerstone of 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: our show during the Bengals season every Tuesday. He's for 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: the second consecutive here I think he has been crowned 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: King of Radio Row. He's with Sumer Sports, which is 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: an invaluable resource and one of the authors of these 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: stats and scheme newsletter. Our guy Sean sayed, how many 14 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: shows have you been on this week? O? 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: Look, my voice, it's struggling a little bit. Be a lot, 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: but we'll talk about a. 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 3: Lot of different things, of course, saving the best step 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: for you as we get towards the end of media 19 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: week here. 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: Beyond that, what is the best show you've been on 21 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: so far? Are good question? I mean the Super Sport show. 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: Of course, it's actually been It's been. 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: Really fun to talk to some of the players, have 24 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: them come on. I actually really like no I'll tell 25 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: you the Irish NFL show. Yes, a ton of fun. 26 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: They were really well prepared. They asked some great questions. 27 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 3: We had a really good conversation about some stuff. 28 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: I've been lucky enough to be a guest on their show. 29 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: I don't know why they asked, but those guys, as 30 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: we say, no ball and I've I've watched them and 31 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: I've seen that they're at radio rows, so so good 32 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: for them. What about let's talk about both these teams 33 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: from a Bengals perspective, which you're kind enough to do 34 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: with me every single week during the season. 35 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: Let's start with New England. 36 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: Schematically, as a Bengals fan, what can I learn from 37 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: what the Patriots. 38 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: Do to me? Their safeties I think are pretty flexible 39 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: where they're playing a little bit, you know, downhill sometimes 40 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: on these inbreaking routes. 41 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: That's been a really good way to do it. 42 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: And I think they change things up overall just so 43 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: much like they are and they have a different approach 44 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 3: to to see offering. The pitchers are a little bit 45 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: more aggressive. It feels like when you bring in that 46 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: big money free agent and a guy like Nolan Williams 47 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: be able to change some things for your defense. Even 48 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: though no I ended up missing a bunch of the 49 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: season as he was injured, still thinks like we are 50 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: building this thing really through that defensive line. 51 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: Now from a Seattle perspective, Now, the. 52 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: Seahawk's perspective is kind of similar but also very fine 53 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: to where their defensive line less than it unlocks everything. 54 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: They're happy to just have four defensive linemen on the field. 55 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,119 Speaker 3: They can stop the run that way, they can rush 56 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 3: the passer that way. It just makes us feel like, 57 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: all right, got to keep on drafting the defensive lineman. 58 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 3: Even though of course we're gonna have situations like that 59 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: angles have had in the past where not everything's gonna feel. 60 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: Like it hit. 61 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: It just always feels like that's kind of a safe 62 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: way to start building your team. 63 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: Can I run a couple of takes past, you'll fly though. 64 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: Here's what I love most about the Patriots this season. 65 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: All eleven of their draft choices wore a uniform this year. 66 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: All eleven played Mister irrelevant has played in a playoff game. Now, 67 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: some of them less than others, but like you know, 68 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: in a day and age where you've got to get 69 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: instant return on your draft picks. We've talked a lot 70 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: about the Bengals inability to get instant return from their 71 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: draft choices. The Patriots have done that in spades. That's 72 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: Bengals won't have eleven picks next season. 73 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: That's a goal. 74 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: And I know folks are going to say, well, wait 75 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: a minute, all the Bengals draft choices at some point 76 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: played this year. All eleven Patriots picks played for a 77 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: team that's in the super Bowl. That's what I want 78 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: next season. 79 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: It's such a good thing to have where look, we 80 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 3: know it's a salary cap the league, right, so any 81 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: sort of Costen Gould talent that you have, it makes 82 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: things so much easier where it allows you to take 83 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: some home run swings at different positions. 84 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: So unfortunately, I. 85 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: Mean, you know, some teams will built through free agency, 86 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: but you have to have to have to be able 87 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: to find a way to build through the draft to 88 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: get some of those starters. I keep thinking about the 89 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: Bengals defense, right, of course you'd like to continue to 90 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: build along the offensive line, but well, next year, we've 91 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: got to be able to talk about some of these 92 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: bangles draftfcks. That is starting on the defensive side of 93 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: the wall. 94 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to give you another one here. 95 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: Right with Seattle, I see a team that did something 96 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: that in real time was difficult. Right they were willing 97 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: to move on from Russell Wilson. That move is paid 98 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: dividends if you look at who they got for the 99 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: picks they acquired from them, DK Metcalf moving on from him. 100 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: Not quite apples to apples, but still difficult. 101 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: New England moves on from a coach who's like a 102 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: franchise legend after just one year because there's a better 103 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: option available. Sometimes you got to do what's difficult. Sometimes 104 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: you got to do what's unpopular. There are times, not 105 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: all the time, but there are times where I've wanted 106 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: about the Bengals willingness to do that. 107 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: I mean, at this point, is Zach Taylor one of 108 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: the like the most tenured head coaches in the entire NFL. 109 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 3: I is almost a wild thing to think about, But 110 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: I do agree with you where look, sometimes it's a 111 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 3: different both see you need. Sometimes it's a game management 112 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: type situation. With Seattle, of course, like McDonald, it's a 113 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: home run at the offensive coordinator spot. That's going to 114 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: be an important thing end with the brabell as well, 115 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 3: you have a guy who has that built in offensive 116 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: coordinator where you probably feel like, hey, this guy's most 117 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: likely not going to go ahead and be found a 118 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: head coach. So I agree with you where a lot 119 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: of times it is that tough decision and it's scared 120 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: because nine wins and being near the playoffs is a 121 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: really nice thing if feel consistent about. But sometimes you 122 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: just got to break that bank. You got to make 123 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: that big decision and move on to your head coach. 124 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 2: Are you ready for one more? Absolutely? I wish I 125 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: had a time machine. 126 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: I wish I had a time machine for a lot 127 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: of different reasons, but I wish I had a time 128 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: machine because this time last year when I was screaming 129 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: for the Bengals to sign Milton Williams, they didn't and 130 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: they should have. 131 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: So if we go back in time they can it 132 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: would be nice. 133 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: You know, I think maybe we get that top machine. 134 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: I'm sure, yes, there are some other things perhaps that 135 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: we would both be interested in texting, but I do think, yes, 136 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 3: like you are, it's a rare situation because and to 137 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: be clear, Bil Williams didn't get got injured this year, 138 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: missed a bunch of time, but still in the playoffs, 139 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 3: he's able to really emerge and continue to play the 140 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 3: way that he did as as the law dumping evil 141 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 3: and it is a rare thing for a high level 142 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: pass rushing type player to hit the open market. It 143 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: is just too hard now these days where teams. 144 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: Are a little bit smarter. 145 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: I think front office members understand, hey, we can't let 146 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: these guys get frequency. We want to kind of sign 147 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: that maybe a year early, maybe even two years early 148 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: at some times when you extend them. 149 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: So it would have been nice. 150 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 3: No, certainly thinking makes your linebackers like these Yer, there's 151 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: so many wonderful effects to when you have a high 152 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: quality defensive Live have. 153 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: Our guys, Sean said, is with us from suomer Sports. 154 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: Suomer Sports Live is a big part of suomer sports 155 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: dot com. Sean one of the authors of these stats 156 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: and scheme newsletter. Have you started to dive into the 157 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: draft yet? 158 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: No, so I have not done. I will say sumer 159 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: sports has our draft guide for this upcome year. 160 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: I believe it's. 161 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: Already live on summer sports dot com. So it has 162 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: all the advanced data for all of the top however 163 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: many consensus big Board picks. It's going to be a 164 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: real fun one where you're going to give a look 165 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: at that information. 166 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:51,119 Speaker 2: I'm excited. 167 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: How to follow that through with some of the film 168 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: this off season? 169 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: Are you allowed to tell me who you think is 170 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: going to win the game on Sunday? Yeah, I'm mean 171 00:06:58,800 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: up boring. 172 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be this the off Do 173 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 3: you think it's apt to win the game at three points? 174 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: Stuff? 175 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: So I feel like the Patriots are going to be 176 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: able to keep it close in a few different ways 177 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: where I think the Patriots defensive line and create some 178 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: issues for that center, that right guard for the seaoffs. 179 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: I could see it be a situation where you know, 180 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: even when you have a guy like Jasn who is 181 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: really unguardable, I can see a little bit of a 182 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: defensive slug best going anster this game? 183 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: Well said, how many more shows do you have to do? 184 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: However many today? 185 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: Tell me? 186 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: Is that for many? I've left you too? 187 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: Wow? All right, the star of Radio Row, who's the 188 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: most famous person you've seen at Radio Row? 189 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: That's a good question that see, I mean all the 190 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: players those are big ones usually uh like on Friday 191 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: and like you start to see the guy like the 192 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: rock and then there's no movie. Starts kind to run 193 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: around of here as well. 194 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's no bigger star than you. 195 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: And thank you for carving out some time for his 196 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: suomer Sports dot Com check out Sumer Live. 197 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: You're the best man. Thanks so much, Oh, thanks so much. 198 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: Appreciate you. 199 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: That's our guy, Sean say of the star, I've said 200 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: that Radio Row is the set his place on Earth, 201 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: and it is, but Sean sayed, who is awesome and 202 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: we love having him on the show and brings a 203 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: level of enthusiasm that is unfortunately exceedingly rare. The fact 204 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: that he has been the breakout star of Radio Row 205 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: and I look on social media and he's doing different shows. 206 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: We're going to get to a point where he's too 207 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: big for us, but we're not there yet. 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