1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Fifteen thirty. Cincinnati's Sports just rolled the chair over my foot. 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: That's all good. This is ESPN now on top of 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: a dentist. I need a podiatrist walking sitting wounded here 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: to get hazard paid for sitting in front of a 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: microphone talking about sports. Hi, my name's Malagar. This is 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty. Thanks so much for listening today. We've 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: got the Reds losing to the Marlins eight won the 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: final score. We have speculation that maybe Gisel James is 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: gonna end up Exavier that we have to address, and 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: Brendanan and Jones on baseball as well. By the way, 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: twenty four hours from right now, my guy Aaron Bland 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: just informed me that we're gonna chat with one of 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: my favorite draft analysts, Mike Renner, who for years was 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: with Pro Football Focus and then he jumped off the 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus wagon. Unfortunately for a lot of those 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: folks at Pro Football Focus, that company has and I'll 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: just put it this way, gone through a lot of changes. 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: Mike left well before then. He has been kind enough 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: to join our show for years, and I don't believe 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: Mike lives in Cincinnati anymore, but our on air relationships 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: started when I ran into him at the Holy Grail 22 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: one opening day and I just started peppering him with 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: draft questions, and it's like, why don't we do this 24 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: for everybody else? So we're having him on tomorrow at 25 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: four oh five, and I'm stoked for that. We get 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: a lot of really good We have a good draft 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: guest on Monday, Ryan Roberts Dane Brugler next week from 28 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: The Athletic. His annual evaluation guide, six hundred pages, The 29 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: Beast is out. I'm looking forward to chatting with Dane, 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: and by the way, our Draft show which airs down 31 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: the Hall that stars Lance, Rocky Me, Tony Austin and 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: Chick two weeks from tonight at Dickman's and fort right 33 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: six to midnight, the favorite broadcast my favorite broadcast, I 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: should say on our calendar. I'm looking forward to that, 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: looking forward to getting answers as to what the Bengals 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: do at ten. Overall, I feel like, and I'm saying 37 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: this without really thinking about it, there was a lot 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: of uncertainty as to what the Bengals were gonna do 39 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: last year. I feel like we're all familiar with the 40 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: main names involved here, like We've talked about Sonny Styles 41 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: and Rubin Bain and Jerman McCoy, and you know, Jeremiah 42 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: Love has been brought into the conversation obviously. Caleb Love, 43 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: Caleb Love, Caleb Downs. I actually know a guy named 44 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: Caleb Love, Caleb Downs, Monsieur Delaine. I mean, he's been 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: brought up. Peter Woods has been kicked around in some 46 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: areas of the internet. I think we're all familiar with 47 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: the names. I think we we're all I don't want 48 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: to say excited to find out who they take. There 49 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: is a level of intrigue with regards to what happens 50 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: Picks one through nine, who's there and ultimately who they 51 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: choose not to take. And I think the momentum recently 52 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: has been Corner and understandably so. A they say you 53 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: can never have enough. B they don't have enough. C 54 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: The two main guys they have at Corner are going 55 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: into contract years, and I think D like they have 56 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: a chance to get maybe the top cornerback according to 57 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: many in this class. So those are all really really 58 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: good things. I have fixated on Caleb Downs. I don't 59 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: think he's going to be there because it feels like 60 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: the real smart money is on him going to the Giants. 61 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: But if you can't be the guy who complains about 62 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: not signing a linebacker, and then if Sunny Styles is 63 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: there complain about them signing or drafting a linebacker. I 64 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: fixate on Caleb Downs, and there are lots of different 65 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: reasons for it. I've said this a few different times 66 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: of it the last couple of months. There's lots of 67 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: folks whose evaluation I seek out and trust, and I 68 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: just I love hearing them describe what they see when 69 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: they watch Caleb Downs. And I think with him, there's 70 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: a level of versatility that this team in the short 71 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: term could really benefit from. And I think you're giving 72 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: Al golden as overused of a term as this is, 73 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: You're giving him a legitimate chess piece that I'm not 74 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: sure really exists on this team. I'm not sure really 75 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: exists at the safety spot. Could use them at star, 76 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: could play him in the slock and have a traditional safety, 77 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: could use three safety looks like we'll see. But there's 78 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: also like, look, man, you don't have to go far 79 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: to find Ohio state coverage, and going back a year, 80 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: like when you listen to people who seem to have 81 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: real informed opinions, talk about intangibles and football intellect and 82 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: like leadership. I mean, there's just there are so many 83 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: boxes he checks, and the intelligence part, to me matters. 84 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: Dana and I talked about this on Tuesday show and 85 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: on his podcast yesterday. Obviously you can go catch those 86 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: but the Bengals had really good defenses in twenty twenty one, 87 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, and I think twenty one, you 88 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: might say a little bit more opportunistic than stout, but 89 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: good defenses. They made the Super Bowl on the strength 90 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: of the defense in that playoff run at the end 91 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty one season. When I think of 92 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: lou Anroumo, obviously he's not the DC anymore, But when 93 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: I think of those defenses, the word that comes to 94 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 1: mind is smart. They had good players, had some terrific players, 95 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: players who are no longer here, but who have left 96 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: an indelible mark with this franchise. Good acquisitions, good players, 97 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: good players drafted, good players acquired via free agency. Good 98 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: good players. But to me, when you watch those defenses, 99 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: you saw a group where you rarely saw an assignment mistake. 100 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: You didn't see angle issues, you didn't see guys who 101 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: look like they didn't know where they were supposed to be. 102 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: You didn't see guys who look like they were on 103 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: a different page as the other ten guys. And I 104 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: say that because I remember talking about those things in 105 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: real time. You know, that's when lou Ana Ruma was 106 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: being talked about as maybe a head coaching candidate, and 107 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: I remember saying, like, to me, the greatest statement that 108 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: you can make about what he's gotten out of this 109 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: defense is just it looks really well coached. A lot 110 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: of that was a testament to him, But it also 111 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: felt like they had guys who just understood the system, 112 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: understood their positions, understood their jobs, understood from play to 113 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: play where they were supposed to be. Sometimes in football 114 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 1: you get beat, sometimes the dude on the other team 115 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: makes a play, or sometimes the quarterback on the other 116 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: team makes the sort of throw that you almost can't defend. 117 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: But it felt like when you scored on the Bengals, 118 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: when you move the ball in the Bengals during those years, Yeah, yeah, 119 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: you didn't get You didn't outsmart them. It wasn't because 120 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: guys weren't where they were supposed to be. Wasn't because 121 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: players were just you know, freelancing to the degree that 122 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: they should. It felt like that a really smart defense 123 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: the Bengals could use some really smart players. I'm not 124 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: saying they're stupid people, but over the last couple of seasons, 125 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: it has often felt like with the entirety of the defense, 126 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: high football IQ has been lacking, which is maybe why 127 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: you saw some poor angles taken and some coverage issues. 128 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: I fully believe there's a lot of reasons why you 129 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: lead the league as the Bengals did two years ago 130 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: in explosive plays given up, and they led by a 131 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: wide margin. Part of that was, you know, maybe the 132 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: defense from an intellect standpoint had slipped from what it 133 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: was in twenty one and twenty two. And that's where Jesse, 134 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: Bates and Von Bell come in. And it's obviously other 135 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: players in that mix too. If I can get a 136 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: versatile player who brings with him a level of football 137 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: intellect that might not necessarily be what it was with 138 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: Jesse and Vaughn in twenty one and twenty two, but 139 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: if I can, if I can add that piece to 140 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: the mix this year and then kind of build moving forward. 141 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: And by the way, I think Brian Cook checks those 142 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: boxes too. In fact, I'm pretty damn comfortable in saying 143 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: that he does. Like, I don't know, man, we talked 144 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: last hour about positional value in baseball. Key Brian Hayes 145 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: plays third base. He's awesome at it. Third baseman doesn't 146 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: handle the ball as much in shortstops and second basement 147 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: and first baseman. But you obviously want a good glove there. Now, 148 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: guys got to hit. You want a good glove there. 149 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: We do this with football the time. Safety positional It's 150 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: why Caleb Downs might not go in the top ten. 151 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: Who knows, But like positional value. You could talk about 152 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: the value of safeties and what you're willing to pay 153 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: until suddenly you stink back there and they've I think 154 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: the Bengals have done a very good job in addressing 155 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: that position. Jordan Battle I think can play in this league. 156 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm doing cartwheels about locking him 157 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: in long term if it cost me a guy like 158 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: Caleb Downs. But like, nobody has any issue with Jordan 159 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: Battle being on the team. Brian Cook is a terrific signing. 160 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: That's not me being a UC homer. Like, look at 161 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: what he did in Kansas City. He tackled dudes Gino 162 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: Stoden couldn't and Kyle Dugger is exactly the kind of 163 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: player they didn't have last year. So there are some options. 164 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: But if you could take another guy who plays that position, 165 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: and I can try to recapture while it might not 166 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: be apples to apples what I had when I had 167 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: Baits and Bell at their best with Cook and Caleb 168 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: Downs for the to the decade, are you kidding me? 169 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: And if I could just build my defense around the 170 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: sort of guys that feel like they would have fit 171 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: in very easily in twenty twenty one in twenty twenty two, 172 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: those are the kind of guys that I want. Now. 173 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: I've done a very deep dive into Dane Brugler's Beast, 174 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: which is a six hundred page guide, and part of 175 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: it is research for the Draft show. Part of it 176 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: is we'll start running these too, and I gotta voice 177 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: these draft vignettes that we do with players that maybe 178 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: there when the Bengals go in the clock at ten. 179 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: And I think the cool thing about a lot of 180 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: these guys that you read about, like Sunny Styles also 181 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: checks a lot of those boxes. Again, it feels like 182 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: the smart money is on him going to the Giants 183 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: at number five. But the Caleb Downs fixation for me 184 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: kind of starts with he's the sort of dude who 185 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: and I hear and read like I watched enough Ohio 186 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: State football. I'm obviously very familiar with what he does. 187 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: But when I like, I read, folks who are close 188 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: to it, cover the program, been involved in covering the 189 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: draft process, really evaluate him. They point to like some 190 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: of the really smart things the guy does, And I 191 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: defer to those folks, including Dane Brugler, and so I'm 192 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: looking for smarts. And wherever they go in round one, 193 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: like let's say they take Caleb Downs instantly, it's all right, 194 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: what about linebacker? Hello? And uh, okay, they're gonna get 195 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: another edge guy? Is there room for a nose tackle? 196 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: Which I think is a sneaky interesting need? What about 197 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: the offensive line depth? Like that's that's sort of how 198 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: this works. Wherever they go in round one, you're gonna wonder, Okay, 199 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: what's next round two? Where are they going? What position 200 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,599 Speaker 1: can they not afford to wait to address on Saturday? 201 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: Is that linebacker? Is that swing tackle? All very interesting? 202 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: But I watched what a defense can do when it's 203 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: collectively collectively operating at a high level from an IQ perspective, 204 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: and I want more players like that. And that's what 205 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: jumps off the page when it comes to Caleb Downs. 206 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: So that's kind of the reason for the fixation. If 207 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: they don't take him, be open minded, I will. You know, 208 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: it's it's going to be hard to really quarrel with 209 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: the position they address, unless it's running back. We'll see. 210 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: But the Caleb Downs thing for me is when I 211 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: think of the Bengals defense the last time the Bengals 212 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: were good, I think of Smart with Caleb Downs, I 213 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: think a smart seventeen after four o'clock, more of your 214 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: phone calls are coming up. Five point three seven four nine, 215 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty and eight sixty six, seven oh two three 216 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: seven seven six Brendiman and Jones on baseball is like 217 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: thirty five minutes away, So be here for that. 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They're home for a three game series this 236 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: weekend against the Angels. Here's here's Tito. Here's Tito talking 237 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: about or after I should say, today's seven run l 238 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: again the fish. 239 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 4: What did you see from Louder where they were able 240 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 4: to just kind of chip away at him? 241 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know there were some balls that were hit 242 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 5: really good, and you know the innings are probably different, 243 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 5: like Dane almost made a great catch. TJ gets back 244 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 5: on the wall. You know those are and again those 245 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 5: balls are hit really well, but man, he'd like to, 246 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 5: you know, if we can convert a couple outs there, 247 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 5: it's a little different. It just made it a lot 248 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 5: harder for him. And he wasn't missing a ton of bats, 249 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 5: so it just made it harder. 250 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: Okay. 251 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 4: I certainly had your chances offensively. There were a lot 252 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 4: of men left on base over with runners at the 253 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 4: scoring position. I know that's been a problem over the 254 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 4: early part here, but what did you see particularly today. 255 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 5: I just think we started to expand you know, we 256 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 5: we want our guys to be aggressive, especially with fastballs, 257 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 5: and then they started spending it down below the bat 258 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 5: and that's when, you know, that's when it got a 259 00:14:58,840 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 5: little tough for us. 260 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 4: I know you're not a big picture guy, but going 261 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 4: home after a five and two road trip, you'll take that. 262 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 5: One's right. I don't even remember last night. I don't 263 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 5: want to. What I care about is now is tomorrow. 264 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 5: That's what I always care about. He's okay. I think 265 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 5: we're kind of concerned, like especially when you see it 266 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 5: on replay, but it's it's his finger, it's not his wrist. 267 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 5: But he checked out pretty well with the training, and 268 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 5: I think he's okay. 269 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: Give you what he had considering he asked, he sure did. 270 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 5: He gave us everything. That's you know, if we have 271 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 5: a chance to win tomorrow because of him a little 272 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 5: bit on the catch to start the game. 273 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 4: I mean, just a huge catch by Dane and you 274 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: know then that the second one gets by him. 275 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: But how did just a good way to start it 276 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: for him. 277 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 5: That was a very good catch. I had a great catch. 278 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 5: I agree with you. 279 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: There you go. There's Tito with the assembled Reds media, 280 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: led of course by Jim Day. We did we did? 281 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: We borrow that from Red's TV. Is that part of 282 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: our subscription, our Reds TV subscription that we get to 283 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: steal the audio? Yes? Can I just say this about 284 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: Red's TV today, John Sadak and Jeff Brantley the quarterships 285 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: they were wearing very very nice. Uh you heard? Tito 286 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: was asked a question about Dane Myers who crashed into 287 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: the wall making a catch, and was what was interesting 288 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: it was it was in the first inning he robs 289 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: his former team, one year to the day after he 290 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: made a very similar catch playing for the Marlins. Last 291 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: season of Jacob Marcy and the catch today was awesome. 292 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: He crashed really hard into the wall. It took a 293 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: few minutes to sort of gather himself. Trainer came out 294 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: ended up being okay, So there you go. What are 295 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: we doing now? We're taking a phone call? Mike, go ahead, 296 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: You're on ESPN fifteen. Mike, good afternoon. How are you? Mike, 297 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: good afternoon? How are you do? We do it one 298 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: more time? Mike, good afternoon. How are you? Oh, apparently 299 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: not great? Hopefully Mike's okay. Brady Singer pitched last night 300 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: and it went poorly, and it's gone poorly so far 301 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: this season for Brady Singer. Brady Singer, and this sounds harsh, 302 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: isn't not really held to extraordinarily high standards, right like 303 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: aces are top of the rotation. Guys are dudes, who 304 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: are you know, sort of supposed to be a team's 305 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: best pitcher. You're expecting, you know, very good starts close 306 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: to the majority of the time with Brady's Singer eat innings. Now, 307 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: the standard's not that low. He's got to do more 308 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: than eight innings. He's got to pitch effectively and give 309 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: his team a chance to win. But the main reason 310 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: that the main reason why he's on the team, and 311 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: that's a little bit of an overly simple way of 312 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: looking at things, is he's there to kind of be 313 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: the steady guy in the rotation, and Andrew Abbott to 314 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: a large degree as well. And I think for the 315 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: most part, Andrew Abbott has been mostly steady. He's made 316 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: a whopping three starts this season. But even the game 317 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: the other night, the Reds did come back and win 318 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: in part because he and the bullpen gave the team 319 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: a chance. But Brady Singer is on a staff where 320 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: they're using two guys who are rookies and Brandon Williamson 321 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: who really hadn't pitch coming into this season since twenty 322 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: twenty three, very short on experience. Brady Singer is supposed 323 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: to be the steady hand in the rotation, the guy 324 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: who's supposed to give them a certain amount of length 325 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: where you know where you go. Okay, when it's this 326 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: guy's turn, there's obviously no guarantee that they're gonna win, 327 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: but for the most part, he's going to keep his 328 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: in it and we're not gonna have to use four 329 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: or five relievers. Well, that means he's got to get 330 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: out of the third inning, and every starter, every good 331 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: starter is allowed some clunkers, right, There have been some 332 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: awesome pitchers who have had some just unspeakably bad starts, 333 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: but the command hasn't been there. It's not that Brady 334 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: is the hardest thrower ever, but the velocity seems to 335 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: be a little bit down. He just looks different, his 336 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: body language on the mountain last night, what felt like 337 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: it was a little bit off, that that could be problematic, 338 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: and like maybe it's an injury issue. Maybe it's something 339 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: that Derek Johnson can fix. Maybe these are just three 340 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: starts that by the time we get to the middle 341 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: of the May we forget, because the starts since then 342 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: have been pretty good. But it's worth paying attention to. 343 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: And it matters because there is some degree of I 344 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: don't know, variance, if that's the right word, where if 345 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: Chase Burns gets beaten up, or if Red Louder gets 346 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: beaten up, which kind of got beaten up today, it's 347 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: not a surprise. You expect it. You expect like wild 348 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: inconsistencies that come with youth. Now, because they're so talented, 349 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: especially Chase Burns, you're gonna get some awesome starts so far, 350 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: that's what he's got, what's what he's given this team. 351 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: So you're a veteran guy, you're middle of the rotation guy, 352 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: the guy who's on the team to eat up innings. 353 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: He's supposed to be the dude that, on a day in, 354 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: a day out basis, on a start in and start 355 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: out basis, you're supposed to be able to wrap your 356 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: brain around what he can do. And in the absence 357 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: of that, your bullpen works more and it puts a 358 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 1: lot more pressure on guys who don't have nearly as 359 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: much experience. So the Brady Singer thing for me is 360 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: at least kind of worth paying attention to. Twenty nine 361 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: and after four o'clock something else worth paying attention to 362 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 1: if you're a fan of two area college basketball teams. 363 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: After sports headlines, which are next on ESPN fifteen. 364 00:20:54,160 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 2: Thirty Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic from. 365 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 3: The UC Health Traffic Center considered becoming a living kidney 366 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 3: donor and during Donate Life Month, the experts of hu 367 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 3: See Health can answer all of your questions. A gamester 368 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: of life begins with one step. Learnmoreuce health dot com 369 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: slash transplant. 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I don't know why 379 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking this way. Red's lost to the Marlins today 380 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: in Miami. Eight won the final score reut Louder when 381 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: five plus gave up five runs, four of them earned. 382 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's only run came up the bat of Sal Stewart, 383 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: who homered again in his hometown with lots of friends 384 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: and family in the stands, his fourth of the season. 385 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: Cincinnati finishes the road trip at five and two, which 386 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: is good. They're eight and five, which is good. They 387 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: come home to play the Angels this weekend at GABP, 388 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: debuting their new city connect uniforms on Saturday? What else 389 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: do we have? The Masters are happening right now at Augusta, 390 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: a tradition unlike any other, and currently a top the leaderboard. 391 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: Sam Burns and Rory McElroy are tied at five under, 392 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: two shots ahead a whole slew of golfers that include 393 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: Justin Rose, the Guy I bet On, Scottie Scheffler, Gary Woodland, 394 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: Patrick Reid, and Jason Day. What else do we have? 395 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: Hockey tonight, the Jackets are on the road against Buffalo Columbus, 396 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: two games behind Ottawa for the final wildcard spot in 397 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference, and FC Cincinnati has engaged in Naymar's camp. 398 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: The Brazilian Star and FC Cincinnati in the very early 399 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: stages of discussions as the team gauges his interest and requirements. 400 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: This according to Tom Bogert and Paul Tenorino of the 401 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: Athletic FC Cincinnati hits the road. They play in Canada 402 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: against Toronto on Saturday. Kaylen Kyle from Apple TV joined 403 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: us yesterday to talk to FC Cincinnati. That was awesome, 404 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: by the way, Speaking of Apple TV tomorrow on the 405 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: show Hey do You Watney from Apple Tomorrow, the Reds 406 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: play in an Apple game, big big week for Apple. 407 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: Here on our show I was listening earlier on sincec 408 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: He three to sixty, Paul Frishner, mister College Basketball The 409 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: Rebound Rundown, discussed a whole bunch of different college basketball topics, 410 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: one of them Gisel James entering the portal He andnowledge 411 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: what Rickbrowing of Musketeer Report dot Com through out there. 412 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: I guess yesterday, which is the possibility of maybe there 413 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: being some interest by Xavier in Jizsel James. Now, there 414 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: are many who feel like and I think Rick mentioned 415 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: this as well, many who feel like the smart money, 416 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: if you were to wager on such a thing, would 417 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: be on Jizzle ending up at Charlotte and we'll see 418 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. You see players who at the portal, 419 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: and then you read about the schools that are interested, 420 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: and there's like fifteen schools named number one. I don't 421 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: know why Xavier wouldn't have some interest. He's a high 422 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: major player, averaged double figures in the Big twelve, played 423 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: well against Big twelve teams. Now his game has limitations. 424 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: I don't think he's great at creating his own shot. 425 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: As a guy who handles the ball, as much as 426 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: he does, he doesn't get to the free throw line 427 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: hardly at all. The average one free throw attempt per game. 428 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: This past season, he's had more than five free throw 429 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: attempts in the game, I believe, twice in his college 430 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: basketball career. But he's a good college basketball guard. I 431 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: don't know if he can be your best player, but 432 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: there's room for him in high major basketball if he 433 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:24,239 Speaker 1: finds the right spot. From a bearcat perspective. Okay, So 434 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: I look at this two different ways. One is I 435 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: love interesting. Trey Hendrickson playing against the Bengals is interesting. 436 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: You know what, block him? You decided you didn't want 437 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: to sign him. When you decided you didn't want to 438 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: sign him, that left open the possibility he could go anywhere, 439 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: including a team you played twice. So guess what. Figure 440 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: out a way to block him. We'll get a chance 441 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: firsthand to see if the Bengals got it right when 442 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: it comes to Trey Hendrickson and him coming to town 443 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: and the fan reaction and it's just awesome. Let's go. 444 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: That's fun. The skyline Chili Crosstown shootown, which many will 445 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: incorrectly say has lost its luster. That statement I don't 446 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: think is very accurate, but you want to add an 447 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: interesting dynamic to it. Have a guy who played for 448 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: one side play for the other. And frankly, in this 449 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: day and age, with so much player movement, chances are 450 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: it's inevitable that we're gonna have this. Maybe it's not 451 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: Gisel James, who knows who it's gonna be with, but 452 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: like with all the player movement, and there's probably gonna 453 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: be some of it being rained in, but with all 454 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: the player movement we have, it just it feels like 455 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: it's almost inevitable that you're gonna have somebody who plays 456 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: it X and then plays it you see, or plays 457 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: that you see and then plays it X. And maybe 458 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: there's a school they stop off in between. Awesome, Let's go. Like, 459 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: if you have lamented the fact that there aren't as 460 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: many familiar characters in the shootout as we've had before 461 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: because of all the player movement, because the coaches are 462 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: new Jared Calhoun's first, Richard Patino second, here's a familiar character. Awesome. 463 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: Let's and by the way, the game being at UC 464 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: would make it even more fun. Let's go. There's also 465 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: this if if a woman breaks up with me, which 466 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm happily married, so I'm sort of hoping that never 467 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: happens for the rest of my life. Once you're gone, 468 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: I kind of don't care now. I don't wish you 469 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: any harm, but like where you go and who you 470 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: date next, and what you do next, Like, dude, we're done, 471 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: I'm good. Do what you gotta do. Gigsel James and 472 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: U see basketball broke up. It might have been a 473 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: Gigsele James initiated breakup. I don't know. But once there's 474 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: a breakup, cool, see you wherever you go. I can't 475 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: control it. I worry about what I got from a 476 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: Bearcat fan perspective. I worry about what Jared Calhoun's building. 477 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's building, but I worry about 478 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: what Jared Calhoun's building, who he's bringing in, what the 479 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: team is going to look like, how they could use 480 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: the more friendly timing than the previous two hires to 481 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: have a really good team in year one. Like, if 482 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: you're happy with what you have, really worried about where 483 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: the other person goes. I think that's true for relationships. 484 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: I think it's true for the workplace. I think it's 485 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: true in sports. The Reds traded away Edwin and Carnacione. 486 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: Many complained about that for years. If you're cool with 487 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: who you got, why do you care? Reds should have 488 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: been cool with what they got because what they traded 489 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: for is exactly what they got. So if you're a 490 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: UC fan and Gisel James ends up at Xavier and 491 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: this bothers you, then you've got some reservations about what 492 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: your team is going to look like. By the way, 493 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: many wanted Wes Miller gone when he got rid of 494 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: the coach. That perhaps increased the likelihood that any number 495 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: of players could leave, and acknowledging that then they could 496 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: go across town. And in an era where there's never 497 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: been less attachment to an individual school, there's probably a 498 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: higher likelihood that they go to a rival. So I 499 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: kind of want this to happen. Now change my tune. 500 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: I guess if Gigsel shows up at fifth third and 501 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: hangs twenty six on the bear Cats and Xavier wins 502 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: another shootout, but this that rivalry. That series, as awesome 503 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: as it is, let's be honest, it is lacked main characters. Now. 504 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: Trey Carroll became a main character this year, and because 505 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: of just you know where he was in his career 506 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: year five, losing to Xavier three of the first four. 507 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: Wes Miller kind of a main character. But with the 508 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: way college basketball has changed many many have decried, first 509 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: time I've ever used the word to cry on this show. 510 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: Many have lamented. Many have complained about the fact that 511 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: in that game, there's a lack of characters. There's a 512 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: lack of familiarity. 513 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 5: Cool. 514 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: Take a dude who played for one school, have him 515 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: played for the other in a game at his old 516 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: school with all the ancillary stakes involved in a skyline 517 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: Chile Crosstown shootout. Count this bear Cat fan as rooting 518 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: for GIZZL to end up Exavier. I'm a UC fan. 519 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm also a fan. Interesting. That's interesting. Sixteen from five o'clock. 520 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: You know what else is interesting? Listening to people defend 521 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: key Brian Hayes. I don't know why I use the 522 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: word defend. Maybe if his name was Cabrian, I'd say defend. Uh. 523 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: We'll get to that coming up at five oh five. 524 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: It's sixteen from five. Brendman and Jones on Baseball is 525 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: coming up on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 526 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic from. 527 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 3: The UC Health Traffic Center considered becoming a living Kney 528 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 3: donor during Donate Life Month. The experts as you see 529 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 3: health can answer all of new questions. A gamester of 530 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 3: life begins with one step. LEARNMOREU see health dot com 531 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 3: slash transplant clean up. 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The only 541 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: basically the only Will Smith song I will allow him 542 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: to play, and the DJ is investigating the NFL, which 543 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm marginally interested in. More interested in the NFL Draft 544 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: our show two weeks from tonight at Dickman's in Fort Right. 545 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: We are looking forward to that Brennanman and Jones on baseball. 546 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: Coming up in just a second after the top of 547 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: the hour, we'll get to the Reds loss in Miami. 548 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: You know, what was true on Tuesday and Monday that 549 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't want to hear is also 550 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: true today and maybe a little bit more willing to 551 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: listen to it. We're going to get to that coming 552 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: up at five oh five. I spent the last segment 553 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: talking about college back and Gisel James and I mentioned 554 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: this two or three weeks ago, right after Selection Sunday. 555 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: We talked about NCAA ratings for college hoops this year 556 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: in the regular season and in conference tournaments, and the 557 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: highest rated Selection Sunday show in fourteen years. CBS and 558 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: T and T Sports had the most watched National Title 559 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: game in seven years now. The way ratings have been 560 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: changed lends itself to there being some ratings increases for 561 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: live sporting events still on cable TV most watched National 562 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: Title game ever of twenty three percent versus twenty twenty 563 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,719 Speaker 1: four most title most watched National Title game ever on 564 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: cable it peaked with twenty point four million viewers. That's 565 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: a staggering number on cable on a Monday night. It's 566 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: a staggering number on cable, So I know I beat 567 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: this drum, perhaps to the point of annoyance. You will 568 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: hear and read mortage of takes about how college basketball 569 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: is ruined and how it's got to be fixed, and 570 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: no one will deny that there needs to be a 571 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: few rules at least, But again, this version of college 572 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: basketball fans seem to like, and so I hear that 573 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: it's ruined. Players are getting paid, coaches are getting paid. 574 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: By the way, you ever look at a college basketball 575 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: team's bench, how many people are on it. I'm guessing 576 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: those folks, unless there are student managers, aren't there in 577 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: a volunteer basis. So everybody's making money, everybody's watching. Can't 578 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: be that broken. The rets offense kind of is and 579 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: was and has been and will continue to be. We'll 580 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: get to that coming up after Brendivan and Jones on baseball, 581 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: which is next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. 582 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: Spring is here