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Speaker 2: This weekend, the pre.

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Speaker 1: the five and two Detroit Lions. Meanwhile, we break from

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Speaker 1: the football and the tedium we talk about hockey. Sure,

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Speaker 1: it was just another wonderful moment night local Minnesota sports saying.

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Speaker 2: They they didn't control the puck.

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Speaker 1: Now they didn't control the puck. I mean the neutral

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Speaker 1: zone trap might have been off half. They lose to

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Speaker 1: sid said the kid you got the half wall. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know the the Minnesota Let's just get this out

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Speaker 1: Sunday to a really bad Indiana Pacers team. Uh, but Date,

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Speaker 1: eight days ago against Scott Mattlocke. Uh. Then the next

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Speaker 1: night at Crypto Dot com Pinch's team takes an owl

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Speaker 1: and how is Jake Lavia and Jake Laravia with his

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Speaker 1: twenty sevens unbelievable? And then Anthony Edwards goes down for

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Speaker 1: two weeks with a swoon over his hammy wild of

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Speaker 1: lost five in a row. Pj's team lost by thirty

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Speaker 1: eight for a tucker guys, you're the one that started it.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to get it out of my system. You

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's out of the system officially into this weekend's game.

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Speaker 1: But we break from that tedium for something we craft

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Speaker 2: I hop in honor of Paul.

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Speaker 1: The Paul being Paul Charchiam who co hosted the Friday

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Speaker 1: Maybe listening now if he is, Hello, Paul, best of

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Speaker 1: luck with your fantasy and this weekend. So we opted

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Speaker 1: to do a segment celebrating Paul charchiing and his contributions

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Speaker 1: to the Friday Football Feast for a decade and a half.

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Speaker 2: I hop get it in honor of Paul, and we

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Speaker 1: What we do is receiving a rushing touchdowns six points,

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Speaker 2: We don't mess around with yards.

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Speaker 1: And last week or last time we did a feast Monticello,

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Speaker 1: Nordo gave Jake Ferguson Cowboys two touchdowns. I gave Trey

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts and he had a touchdown. So it's five

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Speaker 2: You and Nordo each have twenty two. I heard Chauncey

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Speaker 1: Okay, but yeah, he but I can't find him to

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Speaker 2: Weren't at his house when they split the money.

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Speaker 1: Nordo goes first. Nordo goes first. You pick one player

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Speaker 5: Let's go, come on, let's get excited about JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 1: So basically, that's your way of saying you don't care

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean the Bears are down their top

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Speaker 2: So jam you didn't take Almon Ross and Brown Are

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Speaker 1: special in honor of Paul? As in Paul Charchire? So hello, Paully.

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Speaker 2: Game games a lot. Let's let's do this, let's marathon.

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Speaker 2: He was like, yes, we need to get him the ball.

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Speaker 2: We missed you there. I would have loved to hear

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Speaker 1: I can't wait, no doubt, asking those pressing questions about

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Speaker 5: That Jamison Williams is not a one trick wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: What's the trifecta, Jefferson, Alman Ross, Saint Brown. It's a

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Speaker 1: who fill the bottom of the try Yeah Addison? Okay,

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Speaker 2: What do we do?

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Speaker 3: Not Ty Felton. For me, it would probably be Jalen Naylor.

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Speaker 1: Now, with Raymond, if you draft him, you get the

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Speaker 2: And he's really good. He is, and he.

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Speaker 3: I I seriously believe this, Jalen Naylor. If if other

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well he moves the chains on third down. That's

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Speaker 5: We're gonna call it a pick five? Just to pick five? Okay,

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Speaker 5: In some ways, I think Khalif Raymond, and we saw

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Speaker 5: To go Khalif just because of his utility and how

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Speaker 1: Now I respect what Nordo just did. Uh Naylor might

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Speaker 2: And he got his long shots body. Believe Raymond.

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Speaker 5: I almost went long shot with the slow because I

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Speaker 1: I brought two of them are touching one and three

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Speaker 3: good this guy is, or not forgot, but just didn't

440
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Speaker 3: probably you know, credit it enough. And then DJ Reider

441
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Speaker 3: is really good in the run. They've got some nose tackles.

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Speaker 3: A guy I think his name's Roy Lopez who will

443
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Speaker 3: play it pretty well. Long hair the rookie Tylee Williams

444
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Speaker 3: will play the run and then their linebackers ANZELONEI is

445
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Speaker 3: like the Mario to Andrew van Gikles Luigi. Like those

446
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Speaker 3: guys are they look the same, they're a little different.

447
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Speaker 3: On one's numbers thirty four once is forty three.

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Speaker 2: And then Jack Campbell's gotten really good. Yeah.

449
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Speaker 3: Jack Campbell diagnoses things really well. He's not a great blitzer,

450
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Speaker 3: at least that didn't pop for me on film, but

451
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Speaker 3: he figures out, he finds where to be and he

452
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Speaker 3: can get off blocks. So it's gonna be hard to

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Speaker 3: establish a run game the Vikings, in my opinion, like

454
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Speaker 3: it needs to be creative, whether it's jet sweep to

455
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Speaker 3: Jalen Naylor, whether it's utilizing the screen game as an

456
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Speaker 3: extension of the run game. They have to find a

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Speaker 3: way to prevent from being in third and long, because

458
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Speaker 3: if you're in third and long against this defense where

459
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Speaker 3: you've got to drop back and air it out down

460
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Speaker 3: the field with this quarterback right now, that is just

461
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Speaker 3: going to be a suboptimal situation. Just have to find

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Speaker 3: a way to match the physicality. That's why I thought

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Speaker 3: what Chad talked about so much in the first hour

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Speaker 3: was right and good.

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Speaker 5: The con the con has to I mean, looking at

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Speaker 5: establishing the run here. I think there has to be

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Speaker 5: a commitment to it, specifically early, and it's not and

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Speaker 5: Alec basically laid out everything in terms of what they're

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Speaker 5: up against from a physicality standpoint, I think reps in

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Speaker 5: rhythm means a lot to this, and the commitment will

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Speaker 5: start with you get one out of Mason, you get

472
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Speaker 5: one out of Aaron Jones, don't be afraid early in

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Speaker 5: this game to go.

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Speaker 2: Back to it on second and nine. I've just seen

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Speaker 2: out of.

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Speaker 5: Flow here from a play, and whether it's a scripting

477
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Speaker 5: standpoint down in distance, we saw it in the Chargers

478
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Speaker 5: game where you're down fourteen to three. You only ran

479
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Speaker 5: it five times in the first half. All those things included.

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Speaker 5: If it's a health standpoint because you're not liking what

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Speaker 5: you saw out of your backup offensive lineman, you have

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Speaker 5: Darisaw and you have O'Neill.

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Speaker 2: If it is a.

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Speaker 5: Protecting JJ and get this thing moving standpoint, we need

485
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Speaker 5: to see more reps from that standpoint as well. When

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Speaker 5: they've committed to it this season, It's been in very

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Speaker 5: short doses, but Kevin O'Connell.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to believe this. You'll be shocked. Kevin O'Connell could.

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Speaker 5: Draw up some pretty damn good run and some run action,

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Speaker 5: whether it's getting Mason to the boundary and when we

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Speaker 5: get some push inside, we can be effective there as well.

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Speaker 5: To his point to Alex point with the screens and

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Speaker 5: just mixing it up the swing passes. Tried to do

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Speaker 5: it early on in complete Daron Jones in the Chargers game.

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Speaker 5: But the mix combined with true overall run against slam

496
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Speaker 5: your head against a brick wall commitment that needs to happen.

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Speaker 5: I think it actually can have in this weekend because

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Speaker 5: it'll be so contrary to what we've shown through the

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Speaker 5: previous seven Vikes.

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Speaker 1: Bites from Buffalo Wild wins chan Assen for Allen Alabama

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Speaker 1: cornerback Terry on Arnold, He's missed the last two, should

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Speaker 1: be back this weekend. Zero interceptions in his career to

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Speaker 1: this point. Very Higley rapped it. What do you think

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Speaker 1: of Terry on Arnold and purportedly was good with the

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Speaker 1: Grimson time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean he was a first round pick for a reason.

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Speaker 3: The guy has really good athleticism, he's physical and I mean,

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Speaker 3: I put this in our notes that we'll talk about

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Speaker 3: obviously later, but like, the way this Lion's team plays

511
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Speaker 3: coverage for me is like Flora is ish in that

512
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Speaker 3: that is their identity. Like they are gonna get up

513
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Speaker 3: in your face, they're gonna grab you, they're gonna be physical,

514
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Speaker 3: they're gonna be annoying, and it's kind of on you

515
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Speaker 3: just to manage that. The receivers have to release off

516
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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage, well, they have to match the physicality.

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Speaker 2: They have to not complain if penalties.

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Speaker 3: Aren't called, because they're not to be called every snap,

519
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Speaker 3: and that is a major key to this game. Like

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Speaker 3: do I think terry On Arnold can stick with Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 2: One on one?

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Speaker 3: Like, absolutely not in any respect. But they have done

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Speaker 3: a good job against Justin in recent years playing double coverage,

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Speaker 3: which is why, like for me, this becomes a can

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Speaker 3: this be a one on one TJ.

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Speaker 2: Hockinson game?

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Speaker 3: And and like there's not much that we've seen that

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Speaker 3: proves that it can be, but at some point you

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Speaker 3: need that to happen if they're gonna defend these guy

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Speaker 3: Tyrion Arnold, you know, he's a young player developing player

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Speaker 3: doesn't stand out as some exceptional cornerback.

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Speaker 2: But these guys are feisty. I will, I hope I

533
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Speaker 2: don't eat these words.

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Speaker 5: Terry on Arnold strikes me as being incredibly undisciplined. And

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Speaker 5: whether it's the penalties he can be had if we

536
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Speaker 5: get those one on one opportunities so certainly an a

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Speaker 5: topic into it.

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Speaker 2: How much does how much are the Lions.

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Speaker 5: Able to get pressure without blitzing will factor into what

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Speaker 5: Terry on Arnold is able to do against Justin Jefferson,

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Speaker 5: but very talented, super athletic, not a ball hawking playmaker

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Speaker 5: at this stage of his career. After missing two games

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Speaker 5: all those penalties, he gets super handsy, he finds himself

544
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Speaker 5: in the wrong, wrong spot. He's not always tracking the

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Speaker 5: ball when he's in coverage downfield. There may be an

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Speaker 5: opportunity for us to get at Terry on Arnold, and

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Speaker 5: I hope I don't.

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Speaker 2: Eat my words.

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Speaker 1: The the ref this weekend, Uh oh, don't do it.

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Speaker 1: That's always that's always what the reps and officials don't matter.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's always an interesting conversation. My no,

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Speaker 2: my is in may Clarton. The only other thing I'll

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Speaker 2: say is I do expect I know it's it's bleak cakeman.

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Speaker 2: I expect him. I expect them to blitz.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's gonna be huge for Aaron Jones

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Speaker 3: and Jordan Mason to play, to be in the past

557
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Speaker 3: protection fase. It's gonna be huge for TJ. Hockinson to

558
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Speaker 3: chip on the edge like all that stuff. They have

559
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Speaker 3: not been afraid the Lions to heat the vikings up

560
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Speaker 3: and so like Jay McCarthy's quick decision making and the

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Speaker 3: protection unit being locked in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that stuff, to me's going to be important. I

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Speaker 1: think this is important too. So we will call it,

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Speaker 1: we will watch it, we will listen to it, we

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Speaker 1: will fan line it. But let's just keep this in mind. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Clay Martin and his crew called the eighth most penalties

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Speaker 1: of all the I believe it's seventeen staffs in the

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Speaker 1: NFL thirteen and a half Blacks per game.

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of nondescribed, middle of the road. But

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Speaker 2: here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: And I'm texting with Nacho leeber now about does some

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Speaker 1: Sunday things that we're going to do early in the game,

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Speaker 1: and one of them is he wants to talk about

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Speaker 1: Lions corner, A Meek Robertson and his holding of Justin

575
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Speaker 1: Jefferson every single time they play, and how it's overlooked

576
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Speaker 1: a lot. I think a Meek Robertson a Meek is yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's six year from Louisiana Tech.

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Speaker 2: He and Justin played high school against high school. That's

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Speaker 2: what it was.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, they've been dogs in a roundabout where known

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Speaker 1: each other for a long time. And but a Meek's

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Speaker 1: not as good as Justin one on one. Would we

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Speaker 1: agree with that? Yes, yeah, absolutely so, But but it's

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Speaker 1: so rare one on one. But to your point, off

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Speaker 1: the Young Alley doc, which is voluminous and fantastic, and

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Speaker 1: we'll get into it next segment. The Lions play a

587
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Speaker 1: lot of man coverage, I mean a lot of man coverage,

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Speaker 1: and they're kind of.

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Speaker 2: Like a Meek. Yeah you're Louisiana Tech. This is LSU guy.

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Speaker 1: He and Jamar had thirty nine receiving touchdowns in twenty nineteen,

591
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Speaker 1: the most in the history of FPS. Yes, we know

592
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Speaker 1: who he and they are, but you still got it.

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Speaker 1: So the the a Meek holds Justin a lot in

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Speaker 1: sneaky fashion and it doesn't get called so here's why

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Speaker 1: I went into this.

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Speaker 2: Clay Martin staff.

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Speaker 1: Uh, they call the second most defensive holdings of any

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Speaker 1: staff in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, it's really nice.

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Speaker 1: Commissioner Goodell put that stat there at Ford Field in

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Speaker 1: a game like this, you know, for a three and

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Speaker 1: fourteen trying to get the orange for Do.

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Speaker 5: You think in football at all there's ever the crossing

604
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Speaker 5: the cross talker of how people talk about SGA and

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Speaker 5: how he's always looking to find that foul. Is there

606
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Speaker 5: crossed by Jordan rules?

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00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? In some ways, you know, And it's gosh, Andy Edwards.

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Speaker 5: In some ways he doesn't have the calls because maybe

609
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 5: he fights through contact more. I don't know, Mahomes maybe,

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Speaker 5: I mean, is is there a cross talker in the NFL?

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Speaker 5: Not really, But I'm thinking about defensive holding and.

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Speaker 2: Such where you you'll see the history onics.

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Speaker 1: But aren't there always like people on Halloween dressing up

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Speaker 1: like Cleete Blakeman and like the person walking with them

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Speaker 1: as Patrick Mahomes or Andy Reid or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's easy.

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Speaker 1: I've seen the photoshop of Mahomes lovingly embracing Bill Vinovich.

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Speaker 2: I've seen that floating around social media, all right, Bikes.

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Speaker 2: Bikes By the Way Vikes by is provided by Thousand

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Speaker 2: Hills Lifetime Grays, Grass Fed.

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Speaker 1: Bae Play Trake Jared Jared Gobbs, Jared Goffs work at

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Yeah, this is in the document

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Speaker 1: and it complements and or amplifies something that'll come up

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Speaker 1: very early in the game call this weekend and maybe

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Speaker 1: a little later today. Goff seventy four and a half

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Speaker 1: percent all right, second best completion percentage this year in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, behind Drake May who's seventy five and small

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Speaker 1: change Goff.

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Speaker 2: We said it earlier.

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Speaker 1: It's not seven step drop, go ahead and throw that

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Speaker 1: thing occasionally.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: It's three or five step drops and get those guys

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Speaker 1: in stride. It plays into what Alec Lewis said earlier.

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Speaker 1: These guys have been together a while. That really really

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Speaker 1: really matters coaches and players. But the work he does

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Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage, it's underrated, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't see it or it's hard to really

639
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Speaker 3: spot unless you're looking for it. But he is always

640
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Speaker 3: you know, whether it's three plays in the huddle, two

641
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Speaker 3: plays in the huddle, and then they're identifying the defense

642
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Speaker 3: and he's putting his hands up to his helmet.

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Speaker 2: You're wondering what that means.

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Speaker 3: He's getting them into the premium play that he thinks

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Speaker 3: is gonna his best.

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Speaker 2: To attack the opposing defense.

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Speaker 3: And because they've been in the same system for so long,

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Speaker 3: like he's done this consistently and has such command doing it.

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Speaker 3: I would say, like Golf, that is one of his

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Speaker 3: strengths is at the line of scrimmage getting them into

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Speaker 3: the premiere play. And then his velocity on throws when

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Speaker 3: he has time is really good and the accuracy is

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Speaker 3: spot on all.

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Speaker 2: The time too. So like if you're not applying pressure.

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Speaker 3: We haven't even talked about the Lions new look interior

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Speaker 3: offensive line once the show. And if you can't like

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Speaker 3: affect him, get him off his spot and make him uncomfortable,

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Speaker 3: which you can't.

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Speaker 2: You can't do that, he's just gonna pick you apart.

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Speaker 3: And we've seen that covering these games in the past year,

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Speaker 3: probably two years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a big interior rush game from that standpoint,

663
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Speaker 5: but Golf is just so smart.

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Speaker 2: The cohesion that they have.

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Speaker 5: As we look at Nantalyze our team, the lack of

666
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Speaker 5: cohesion and specifically at the top spot is really one

667
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Speaker 5: of the problems that has persisted with this team so

668
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Speaker 5: acing that it's jj season, but with goff Man and

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Speaker 5: going back to the wide receiver chat, and part of

670
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Speaker 5: his ability to do that again comes from the fact

671
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Speaker 5: that it isn't seven step drops. They'll try to find

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Speaker 5: Jamison Williams in those mismatches maybe twice or three times

673
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Speaker 5: a game, but the majority of it, and why I'm

674
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Speaker 5: and Ross Saint Brown is such a stud and a

675
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Speaker 5: star and well compensated for it is because it is

676
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Speaker 5: three steps. You got Laporte on and out and then

677
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Speaker 5: just maybe overlapping or meshing is always am and ra

678
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Speaker 5: and he's always freaking open because it's so fast, it's

679
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Speaker 5: so quick, and his ability to adjust his IQ and

680
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Speaker 5: intelligence at the line is as good as it gets.

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Speaker 5: Would that be seventy four percent? That'd be an NFL

682
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Speaker 5: record if he's that wasn't it?

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Speaker 1: No, Maybe, well May's ahead of him, it's seventy five,

684
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know what the NFL record is.

685
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Speaker 2: That's just that's just freaking insane.

686
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Speaker 1: Well, let's take it a step bar there, just off

687
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Speaker 1: what you had something else.

688
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Speaker 2: Well, it's just it's insane for that team.

689
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Speaker 5: Again, from the idea that we talked about the explosives,

690
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 5: we talk about stopping the run and everything, but just

691
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Speaker 5: at a base level, what we want to see from

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Speaker 5: our offense.

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Speaker 2: At the highest of levels.

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Speaker 5: You're kind of seeing that on the other sideline this

695
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Speaker 5: weekend against the kiddies.

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Speaker 2: It's something to root for, shoot for with JJ.

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Speaker 1: How about golf the last two versus the Vikings with

698
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Speaker 1: the completion percentage eighty four percent. He's completed eighty four

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Speaker 1: percent of his passes the last two against the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: What was the one? I think in Minnesota last year?

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Speaker 2: He may have? He may have? Did he have? It

702
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Speaker 2: was like perfect game.

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Speaker 3: It was like twenty two of twenty four, twenty two

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Speaker 3: of twenty five. I remember texting it with the Vikings

705
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Speaker 3: coach after the game. It's just like what are we what?

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Speaker 2: Like it's too hot for me to say, and how

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Speaker 2: and how is Mike Zorrovo Yeah, And it's like it's

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Speaker 2: like how what are I mean?

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Speaker 3: It's just crazy, but yeah, I uh. This offense, Like

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Speaker 3: to Ordo's point, the continuity is such a part of it,

711
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Speaker 3: and that is it's such a dichotomy when you think

712
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Speaker 3: about the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Offense right now.

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Speaker 3: You haven't had connuity of the offensive line, you haven't

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Speaker 3: had continuity with like all your receivers because Addison was

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Speaker 3: out with the suspension. I mean it's he wasn't in

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Speaker 3: the first quarter in London. It's just like, how can

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Speaker 3: you honestly looking at it from afar, how could you

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Speaker 3: possibly beat like rhythmic and locked in if you haven't

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Speaker 3: all even been together. It's it's that's a really hard

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Speaker 3: thing to have.

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Speaker 1: That's why it's the baseline this weekend too. If they

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Speaker 1: if they lose, push him to the wire.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, if they lose, Oh, ed us Lee being like

725
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Speaker 3: we threw punches, okay, we were physical like they were.

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Speaker 3: If it's an unraveling forty one to seventeen, I mean

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Speaker 3: it is gonna be rough. Rough.

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Speaker 1: detailed and informative document for the nine to noon presentation.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: That has some film watching to it, looking back at

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Speaker 1: the adversaries previous game, some Minnesota vikings related details and

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Speaker 1: minutia and stats and analytics and stuff like that. It's

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Speaker 1: spread it out over a couple of secments because there's

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Speaker 1: a lot to share. And I'd like to begin here

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Speaker 1: with Georgia rookie Tate Ratledge, the right guard for the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 2: You you wrote about him. What have you seen from him?

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Speaker 3: Yes, second round pick, right guard from Georgia. He's uh,

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Speaker 3: he's kind of like a grinder, bigger body guy, not

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Speaker 3: the most like fleet of foot, but he's big.

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Speaker 2: And he's strong.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's really interesting that they have transitioned

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Speaker 3: on the interior where the right guard is a rookie

752
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Speaker 3: second round pick and the left guard is a sixth

753
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Speaker 3: round pick. That's like a cup been in their pipeline

754
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Speaker 3: for a couple of years, and you got to give

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Speaker 3: credit to their old line coach, run game coordinator Hank Freeley.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I used to be here. Yeah, one of

757
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Speaker 2: my very favorites.

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Speaker 3: You give credit to him for the development, for sticking

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Speaker 3: with those guys, for inspiring confidence.

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Speaker 2: Not going with Ben right, I mean badly.

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Speaker 1: And I think he got a massive pay bump and

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Speaker 1: they might have put a slash in his title so

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Speaker 1: he's like assistant or something, coordinator or something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I would say, and and maybe Jason Hatch,

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Speaker 3: who's the lionsman, would disagree. But like, I don't think

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Speaker 3: the Lions interior has been phenomenal. Like, I really don't

767
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Speaker 3: think that it's been great. I do in some ways

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Speaker 3: believe that they're gettable. You just have to be able

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Speaker 3: to knock them back and then place them in long

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Speaker 3: downs and distances where they have to pass the deck like.

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Speaker 2: But they'll pick up stunts fairly well. There. It's an

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Speaker 2: interesting group that's coming along.

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Speaker 3: I just don't it's not the strength that it that

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Speaker 3: it has been. And and for me, through the film,

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Speaker 3: you can kind of see that in the way that

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Speaker 3: they haven't run the football with as much juice and

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Speaker 3: momentum and efficiency as they have in the past.

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Speaker 2: That's just kind of my opinion. Got watch it.

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Speaker 5: There's part of me that's kind of worried that this

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Speaker 5: is a vulnerable spot for the Lions, but part of

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Speaker 5: turning the page, part of how we make this an

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Speaker 5: absolute heavyweight battle on Sunday. I'm not sure we have

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Speaker 5: the guys that can go to work on the interior

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Speaker 5: right now to truly exploit that over the course of

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Speaker 5: the game. And PA's been really vocal and adamant, just

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Speaker 5: kind of running through Javon Hargrave's total snaps in the

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Speaker 5: in most recent let's call it two or three games,

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Speaker 5: and I think Jonathan Allen has been more productive, maybe

789
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Speaker 5: not splashy, but certainly more stable on the interior. But

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Speaker 5: in some ways I feel like, okay, that's a spot.

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Speaker 5: Mahogany is a chance to get better, and he's better

792
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Speaker 5: than he was week one but in Glasgow and kind

793
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Speaker 5: of you know, he was the last guy around that

794
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Speaker 5: could play center, so now they move him from guard

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Speaker 5: inside so Ratlic can play in his natural spot. I'm

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Speaker 5: just curious if we have somebody that can actually exploit

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Speaker 5: that at this stage.

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Speaker 1: When you watch back Vikings games, because I you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not watching defensive line as much as I probably should,

800
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Speaker 1: but I watched a lot closely off the Chargers game,

801
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Speaker 1: because when there's an aberration and you beat Cincinnati the

802
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Speaker 1: way you do or you lose to the Chargers the

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Speaker 1: way you do, that those are the ones that greatly

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Speaker 1: intrigue me to see how things got so out of control.

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Speaker 1: And despite a lot of negatives within that SOFI game,

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Speaker 1: I thought Jonathan Allen is starting it's starting to at

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Speaker 1: least in my opinion, it's starting to click resonate. He's

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Speaker 1: playing markedly more snaps than Javon Hargrave.

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Speaker 2: But what do you think of Jonathan Allen? Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: getting better.

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Speaker 3: He's been solid, but I mean he's not paid to

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Speaker 3: be solid like he's paid to be great. And that's

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Speaker 3: I mean part of it. I've said this and I've

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Speaker 3: written it. The move that they made was to maybe

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Speaker 3: be a little less productive from a run defense standpoint,

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Speaker 3: but way more productive from a pass RUSS standpoint on

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Speaker 3: the interior.

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Speaker 2: And they have been.

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Speaker 3: Much worse than a run deep from a run defense perspective,

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Speaker 3: and they have been not nearly good enough in a

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Speaker 3: pass rush perspective.

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Speaker 2: Now, I will say.

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Speaker 3: This, Levi Drake Rodriguez has given some stuff in the

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Speaker 3: run game, and Jalen Redman has been the best interior

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Speaker 3: off best best interior defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: On this ross and good for Jalen. But it's not

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Speaker 1: supposed to be that way.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not right.

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Speaker 3: That's the point as you pay these other two guys

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Speaker 3: who were thirty plus who were coming off injury, So

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Speaker 3: there was reason even at the time to be a

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Speaker 3: little skeptical of those decisions and that process, and that

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Speaker 3: skepticism that anybody may have had. That's that's bared out

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Speaker 3: to this point. I wonder I wrote this, and I

835
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Speaker 3: might be ridiculous, but like TAKEI Tamani, guys saw that

836
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Speaker 3: was this UDFA from Oregon who played a little bit

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Speaker 3: last year then had an ankle injury. I almost just

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Speaker 3: wonder if to have more of a nose tackle body

839
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Speaker 3: in there would be beneficial.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they would do it.

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Speaker 3: He's on the practice squad, but I do kind of

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Speaker 3: wonder if that would be an answer.

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Speaker 1: M HM alex Lois Nordo, Yours, Julie Paul Allen into

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Speaker 1: the final hour. We welcome our final guest into the

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Speaker 1: radio show. It's somebody who has helped us with the

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Speaker 1: great NFC North Debates at the Great Minnesota Clompfest, a

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Speaker 1: Lions representation from an inside standpoint, and that he watches

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Speaker 1: all the games and watches him back. That's around the

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Speaker 1: corner on Kfam