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Speaker 1: It's time for a weekly Pac twelve conversation with Senos

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Speaker 2: Dick, would you say? John Wilner's record is now predicting

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Speaker 2: games on the.

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Speaker 3: Year is a scorching thirteen and.

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Speaker 2: Five thirteen and five, John, I gotta be totally honest

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Speaker 2: with you.

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Speaker 3: I think you're a good writer.

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Speaker 2: I think you're an excellent prognosticator, and I don't know

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Speaker 2: what the hell you're doing in this business when you

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Speaker 2: should be a handicapper making millions of dollars a week?

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Man?

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Speaker 2: Thirteen and five? After you nailed Oregon a week ago.

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Speaker 2: So we'll get your wind Galorian pick hit a second

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Speaker 2: from now. But John Wilner is with us here courtesy

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Speaker 2: of our friends at simply Seattle.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 4: Man? Thanks?

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Speaker 5: We'll see if you guys are saying that next year

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Speaker 5: when I'm five and thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, Well, you got to commit to the bit

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Speaker 2: right and you've been You've been amazing. So if you

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Speaker 2: commit and you're right every week, you're gonna come out

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Speaker 2: on top overall. Well, let's let's start by talking about

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Speaker 2: what we're about to see on Thursday and Friday, Miami

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Speaker 2: Ole miss Oregon Indiana.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with Oregon Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Obviously that's the game that we're most concerned about here

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Speaker 2: in Seattle. I told Dick and Jackson on the air

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Speaker 2: that maybe it's because of the Seahawk run.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: I don't have as much angst this year about Oregon

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Speaker 2: winning a title as I did.

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Speaker 3: A year ago.

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Speaker 2: And I guess the question is, should I have as

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Speaker 2: much angst as I did last year?

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: The whole vibe is different with because of the makeup

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Speaker 5: you know, I think that maybe that affects how people

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Speaker 5: are looking at it potentially. I mean, only only Miami's

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Speaker 5: ever won a national title in the poll ap Pole era.

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Speaker 5: Of the four teams, it just it paints everything in

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Speaker 5: a different picture in my and I think it's a

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Speaker 5: good picture to be honest with you, the sport has

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Speaker 5: needed to get some new blood, you know, in the

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Speaker 5: late rounds of its playoffs. So to me, it's good.

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Speaker 5: I think Oregon's got a really good chance. I think

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Speaker 5: the winner of the Indiana Oregon game will be favored in.

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Speaker 4: The championship game.

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Speaker 5: I am curious because I think Oregon fans would love

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Speaker 5: to see them play Miami and play Mario, so that,

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Speaker 5: to me, that's a little bit intriguing.

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Speaker 6: But it's kind of a crapshoot with all four here.

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Speaker 7: How much does home field advantage from Miami in the

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Speaker 7: National Championship matter if they go? I mean, would that

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Speaker 7: Let's say, yes, Indiana wins, they're going to be the favorites.

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Speaker 7: But if you still think Oregon will be favored at

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Speaker 5: Do because Oregon will have beaten Indiana, the team that

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Speaker 5: especially if it's a close game. I think Indiana Oregon

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Speaker 3: They rollas well.

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Speaker 2: Got twenty five million people to watch that game is

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Speaker 2: the most watched college football playoff game since Michigan's went

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Speaker 2: quietly people are tuning in to watch all these games.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that if you notice, ratings are up

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Speaker 5: Up, NFL way up, And a big part of it

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Speaker 6: College football also is part of that.

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Speaker 5: There's no doubt. I think people like the playoff. I mean,

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Speaker 5: the Rose Bowl is a lot in a lot of

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Speaker 4: But the Rose Bowl always does well.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's almost immune to other secular trends in viewership.

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Speaker 5: But the way Nielsen is doing it has elevated the

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Speaker 3: How much do you think gambling is helping the numbers? Honestly?

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Speaker 5: Oh a ton a ton. I mean, especially the NFL,

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean it's a big part of it.

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Speaker 5: There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 3: And the Rose Bull got great ratings.

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Speaker 7: And yet I was still a little disappointed that it's

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Speaker 7: a quarterfinal game.

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Speaker 3: John. I know your plan.

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Speaker 7: I love it that the Rose Bowls should be the

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Speaker 5: So there's six bowls, right, the CFPS tied to the Rose, Sugar, Orange, Cotton,

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Speaker 6: There is, you know, in theory of rotation.

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Speaker 4: The issue though, is the Rose Bull wants to be

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Speaker 5: being a semi final game. They'd rather be quarterfinals on

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Speaker 4: So I don't.

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Speaker 5: The only way I think think we can get your

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Speaker 2: John Waters with US thirteen and five on the air

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Speaker 2: after kneeling Oregon shut out of Texas Tech by the way,

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Speaker 2: so we've got to pick from him coming up before

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Speaker 2: he takes off here in a second courtesy of simply

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Speaker 2: Seattle dot com. John Dickon Jackson and I were having

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a debate early on the show

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Speaker 2: about who's got a better chance to make the playoff

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Speaker 2: and who's got a better chance to win the playoff

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Speaker 2: down the road over the next maybe I don't know,

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Speaker 2: ten to fifteen years consistently, Washington State in the new

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Speaker 2: look PAC twelve or you dubbin the Big Big ten.

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Speaker 2: There's two different questions there, winning it and getting in.

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Speaker 2: How do you kind of maybe answer that question.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean winning a game in the playoff, winning

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Speaker 5: the championship, or get winning the whole thing versus getting in, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean, Washington State's got no chance to win the championship,

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Speaker 5: thank you. I mean that's yeah, that's not really a question.

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Speaker 4: In my mind.

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Speaker 5: So part of my answer depends on what we're presuming

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Speaker 5: the size of the playoff and the access if they

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Speaker 6: To have two spots for the group.

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Speaker 5: Of five in a twenty fourteen playoff, So that would

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Speaker 5: in theory help the Pac twelve champ a lot. How

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Speaker 5: much of a chance, you know, Washington State would obviously

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Speaker 6: How will Washington State.

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Speaker 5: Fair against San Diego State, Boise and any of those

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Speaker 5: I think if it's sixteen, which is what I expect

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Speaker 7: John, did we declare the death of the Bowl games

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Speaker 7: too early? These other Bowl games? Because as you mentioned

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Speaker 5: They will continue now expanding this the playoffs of sixteen

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Speaker 5: in uh some of the what is it four thirty

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Speaker 5: nine or forty games, bowl games vanishing, But overall they're

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Speaker 5: gonna stay because it's good business for ESPN.

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Speaker 4: Like you said, the Pop.

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Speaker 5: Tart Bowl drew eight point seven million, which would have

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Speaker 6: It's great for me.

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Speaker 3: What else is.

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Speaker 5: ESPN gonna put on at you know, nine o'clock Eastern

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Speaker 5: on December twenty seventh, a Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna outdraw football.

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Speaker 5: There's nothing so in that regard, They're not gonna go away.

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Speaker 5: They may get downscaled depending on the playof the playoff

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Speaker 5: has We should do a whole segment on this. The

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Speaker 5: playoff has such incredible implications for the entire sport, the

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Speaker 5: the regular season schedule. The playoff has an implication for

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Speaker 5: all that usc Notre Dame series was impacted by the playoff.

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Speaker 5: It's just a behemoth and it's going to only get bigger.

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Speaker 2: Semis this weekend. I know you were on last week

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Speaker 5: pointing a finger at the athletic director, Mark Harland.

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Speaker 4: And if you think that Mark Harland.

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Speaker 7: To be honest, well, the SEC should schedule for this

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Speaker 5: It's not as dominant as it once was. I do

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Speaker 2: All right, thirteen and five on the air. Time to

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Speaker 5: Well, I probably would have thought about taking Oregon, except

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Speaker 6: What I think is three or four points.

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Speaker 4: I think that.

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Speaker 6: Past rush is just too good.

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Speaker 5: Those guys are NFL ready edge rushers, and Miami is

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Speaker 2: So I will take the Canes, all right, Miami minus

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's a huge issue for Oregon fans.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I almost want to see it happen.

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Speaker 2: I almost want to see Oregon play for the title

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Speaker 3: All right, Sean, great stuff. We're talking a week bddy.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: John Wilner with US likes the Hurricanes minus the three

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Speaker 2: Jackson, how long have you been in this business for?

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Speaker 2: By the way, I was an intern in twenty twelve

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Speaker 3: Okay, Dick? How many years for you now? Total? She'll

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's my buddy's birthday. Would you give him a

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Speaker 3: Does that ever happen to you? Once? Only once? Okay?

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Speaker 2: So No, I will not freaking mention that today is

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Speaker 2: Pete McClain's fiftieth birthday. Stop freaking asking me to mention

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Speaker 7: feel intensely confident that they can beat the other team. However,

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Speaker 7: in an honest moment, I don't think either team I

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Speaker 7: think they would be the last on the list of

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Speaker 7: NFC teams they would like to face.

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Speaker 3: I think the Seahawks will be the.

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Speaker 7: Last on the Rams list, and the Rams will be

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Speaker 7: the last on the Seahawks list, because I feel they

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Speaker 7: are clearly the two best teams in the conference.

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Speaker 10: But I do think that I think RAM fans are

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Speaker 10: more confident that they can beat the Seahawks than Seahawks

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Speaker 10: fans are confident that we can beat the Rams. And

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Speaker 10: I think there's a couple reasons why. A it took

459
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Speaker 10: a big comeback for us to beat them in overtime

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Speaker 10: and all the wildness, two point conversion sharpening, all that right,

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Speaker 10: and then also there's a lot of revenge factor in

462
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Speaker 10: there of you guys ended our chances for the one

463
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Speaker 10: seed and took away our West with that crazy comeback.

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Speaker 10: I think, honestly, I think that two point game way

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Speaker 10: back in LA which feels like six months ago, I

466
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Speaker 10: think that's so far in the rearview mirror that it's

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Speaker 10: just overshadowed by the I think the Seahawks are a

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Speaker 10: better are more.

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Speaker 3: Let me just try to make this mix sense, which

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Speaker 3: I know for me gets really hard. I think the.

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Speaker 2: Seahawks are more of a better team than they were

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Speaker 2: then than the Rams are now. I think the Hawks

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Speaker 2: have gotten better since that game, and I think the

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Speaker 2: first game in La. Yeah, And I think there's a

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Speaker 2: chance the Rams have gotten worse since then. I just

476
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Speaker 2: wonder what that game in Seattle did to LA. I mean,

477
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Speaker 2: both teams obviously respect each other. This isn't like an

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma Boise State Fiesta bawl where the suitors show up

479
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Speaker 2: and just think they can walk right through Boise State

480
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Speaker 2: and then get surprised by anybody. But I don't know, man,

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Speaker 2: the mentality of the athlete. I think as fans, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think all three of us would agree with that

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Speaker 2: that that's the one team that you don't want to

484
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Speaker 2: see unless you have to. But I also wonder the

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Speaker 2: mentality of a player. You know, they might be sitting

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Speaker 2: there behind closed doors saying, bring these sons of bees on,

487
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Speaker 2: we want to beat them again. Like, can you ever

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Speaker 2: imagine Richard Sherman saying I don't want to play those guys.

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Speaker 2: They scare me. They never they would absolutely have one

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Speaker 2: of the Niners right in the NFC Championship. And I'm

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Speaker 2: telling you, Dick, there are players in that Seahawks locker

492
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Speaker 2: room that probably hear how lucky they are to beat

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Speaker 2: the Rams in that second game, and that they look

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Speaker 2: like ass in the first game offensively, and they won

495
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Speaker 2: another crack at those guys with this new look Seahawks,

496
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Speaker 2: if you will, to see if they can take them

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Speaker 2: out the way they took out San Francisco last Saturday.

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Speaker 7: Well, the two teams have played one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 7: seven minutes, because they've played two sixty minute football games

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Speaker 7: and seven minutes worth of overtime, and the Seahawks have trailed,

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Speaker 7: or I'll rephrase it, the Rams have led or a

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Speaker 7: bit has been tied in all but about twelve of

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Speaker 7: those minutes. So the Seahawks have hardly ever led all

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Speaker 7: year against the Rams. So I don't know how we

505
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Speaker 7: can be confident in saying that the Seahawks will win

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Speaker 7: a game against the because they've been out played for

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Speaker 7: a vast majority of the nine quarters they've played against.

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Speaker 3: I'm not confident at all.

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you from a player's perspective, I think

510
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Speaker 2: there's an arrogance. There's a cockiness that comes along with

511
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Speaker 2: being an NFL athlete, and they may want to bring

512
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Speaker 2: those guys back here and whip their ass at home

513
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Speaker 2: and say, you know what, the crowd's going to be

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Speaker 2: jew stup. I mean context matters, right, Like a lot

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Speaker 2: of people want to discount the Seahawk win against the

516
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Speaker 2: Niners because the offense only scored thirteen points. Well, they

517
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Speaker 2: also missed two field goals and they had first and

518
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Speaker 2: goal at the one. That's thirteen points they left out there.

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Speaker 2: If it's twenty six to three versus thirteen to three,

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Speaker 2: I think people feel a little differently about it. But

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Speaker 2: you know what, from the Niners perspective, they may have

522
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Speaker 2: looked terrible the week before on defense, but guess what,

523
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Speaker 2: they had the number one seed right there. They were

524
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Speaker 2: playing for the number one seed at home on Saturday

525
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Speaker 2: night in front of a crazy crowd at Levi Stadium.

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Speaker 2: They were probably a little bit more juiced up than

527
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Speaker 2: they were for that game against Chicago. And I know

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Speaker 2: they were jews stup because that was a big game.

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Speaker 2: Two forty two points against Yes, yes, so I mean

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Speaker 2: I was. I don't know what you guys felt. I

531
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Speaker 2: was more impressed by the defense than I was concerned

532
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Speaker 2: about the.

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Speaker 3: Offense last Saturday Saturday.

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Speaker 7: Yes, yes, oh absolutely, I wasn't that concerned about the

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Speaker 7: offense because the play calling just screamed, we're just gonna

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Speaker 7: go home with a win. We don't we don't care

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Speaker 7: about any style points in this game at all. We're

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Speaker 7: gonna let the defense win it, and our offense isn't

539
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Speaker 7: gonna make mistake.

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Speaker 2: I don't think people realize how much they whip their ass. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: they have the ball for thirty eight minutes, guys, those

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Speaker 2: three field goals or excuse me, those three drives that

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Speaker 2: led to no points to two missfield goals and the

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Speaker 2: first and goal from the one. They have the ball

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Speaker 2: for twenty minutes. We said that yesterday they for one

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Speaker 2: third of the game. Those three drives took up one

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Speaker 2: third of the game.

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Speaker 10: You know what's interesting is we look at we talked

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Speaker 10: about how much we fear the Rams. Can we also

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Speaker 10: flip it and say how much we don't fear anybody else?

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Speaker 10: Like you look at the other five teams we could face.

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Speaker 10: I don't you look at the NFC playoff fields over

553
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Speaker 10: the last let's just five years whatever, and look at

554
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Speaker 10: all the every team in there, and I would probably

555
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Speaker 10: fear more than half of them more than I fear

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Speaker 10: the entirety of this field. Other than the Rams, I

557
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Speaker 10: mean the Bears, the Eagles that run a high school offense,

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Speaker 10: the Packers that have been terrible all year with or

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Speaker 10: without Jordan Love, the Niners that are trash. I mean,

560
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Speaker 10: like like, I think we whoop every single team other

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Speaker 10: than the Rams.

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Speaker 3: I think Dog jakeson Doctor Jackson.

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Speaker 7: I mean, anybody except for the Eagles can't throw Yeah,

564
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Speaker 7: they literally can't throw the football off. And you've seen

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Speaker 7: what the Seahawks just did to Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 2: Just do me a favor, do me a favor, exactly,

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Speaker 2: do not podcast this segment.

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Speaker 3: We gotta break. Cohen's going to join next on ninety

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Speaker 3: This is only a one score game. Quick one out

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Speaker 3: to Kenneth Walker, I mean wide.

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Speaker 7: Right thirty thirty five, breaks a tackle, spins out for

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Speaker 2: right now on the radio program, Grant, Welcome back to

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 3: How are you man?

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Speaker 8: Thank you for that wonderful intro. What was you talking

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Speaker 8: about that, dude?

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm Ron Bergend. You'll read whatever you're

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Speaker 2: put in front of my face. Just tell me what

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Speaker 2: to read and I'll read it for you. Well, let's

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Speaker 2: talk about what we saw last Saturday. First of all,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't sound like you were too surprised at the

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Speaker 2: way the Niners offense performed in that game against the

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Speaker 2: Seahawks defense.

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Speaker 3: But how surprised were you that?

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Speaker 2: This was pretty much, let's face it, outside of a

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Speaker 2: couple of breaks special teams first and goal from the one,

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Speaker 2: this was a whippin' by the Hawks last Saturday?

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Speaker 11: Right, Well, I picked the Hawks to win, but not

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Speaker 11: like that. I didn't think they were going to hold

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Speaker 11: the Niners at three points. I don't think anyone thought that.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I thought that the Niners were gonna be

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Speaker 11: able to point to their you know, injuries on defense

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Speaker 11: and use as an excuse and we couldn't stop them.

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Speaker 11: But really only thirteen points. The defense wasn't good, but

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Speaker 11: only thirteen points. That's why this loss was so like

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Speaker 11: sobering and kind of emasculating, because, I mean, three points

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Speaker 11: with brock perty who's supposed to be the best quarterback

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Speaker 11: in the league, and Kyle Andy is supposed to be

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Speaker 11: the best coach in league three points, I mean he

625
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Speaker 11: was gonna be the coach of the year. Now it's

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Speaker 11: Mike McDonald. I couldn't imagine a more heart gut ranching

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Speaker 11: loss than that.

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Speaker 7: Well, Grant, we talked about it before the game, and

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Speaker 7: you pretty much nail it. And I think that what

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Speaker 7: gets me about the Niner fans and what I'm hearing

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Speaker 7: from down there is the whining about the injuries costing

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Speaker 7: the Niners the game. And I could totally buy that

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Speaker 7: if this was a twenty three to twenty nail bier

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Speaker 7: and you know, somebody came off at Trent Williams side

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Speaker 7: against the backup and got a stripsack to win the Okay,

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Speaker 7: I get that. How can Niner fans legitimately say that

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Speaker 7: this was because of the injuries when they watched the

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Speaker 7: game and their team totally get demolished.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think they're taking their cues from their head coach.

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Speaker 11: I mean, Kyle Shanahan was kind of in a whiny

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Speaker 11: mood all week before the game even started.

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Speaker 8: He immediately complained about the game being on Saturday.

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Speaker 11: Mike McDonald didn't seem to care, but Kyle Shanahan did

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Speaker 11: because I think he felt that if they had played

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Speaker 11: on Sunday, they would have had Ricky Pierson on Trent Williams,

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Speaker 11: which I don't know, maybe maybe not, and even if

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Speaker 11: you had them, like you probably still would have lost.

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Speaker 11: But he was kind of whining about it. He feels

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Speaker 11: like the Niners got screwed, and I think Niner fans

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Speaker 11: feel the same way, and they're saying, like, well, we

651
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Speaker 11: had that one drive at the end, and if it

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Speaker 11: wasn't intercepted, it would have been a touchdown.

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Speaker 8: It would have been a one score game.

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Speaker 11: But it was intercepted, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 11: and you weren't going to stop him on the on

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Speaker 11: the subsequent drive.

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Speaker 3: I love how much you hate the forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 3: It's awesome, I really do. I love having you on.

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Speaker 8: God damn, it's their fans man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's no there's nobody who covers a team

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Speaker 2: on a regular basis. Who busts their own balls more

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Speaker 2: than you get after the forty nine ers. It is

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Speaker 2: unbelievable and I love it. So let me ask you this,

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Speaker 2: how much are people down there Jones and for a rema?

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Speaker 2: And if there is a rematch, do you have any

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Speaker 2: reason to think anything would be different with the Seahawks.

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Speaker 8: I don't even they gotta beat the Eagles.

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Speaker 11: I don't think they're even that confident they're gonna beat

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Speaker 11: the Eagles because the Eagles look like the Seahawks, I mean,

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Speaker 11: and the Niners are worse than they were going to

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Speaker 11: the Seahawks game.

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Speaker 8: They were counting on that bye week.

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Speaker 11: Now they lost Tatum Bethune, they're backup middle linebacker, who's

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Speaker 11: filling in for Fred Warner. They just signed Kazeer White

675
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Speaker 11: off the street. They're gonna probably start him and Eric Kendricks.

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Speaker 11: They can't stop Saquon Barkley. I would be shocked if

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Speaker 11: they beat Philly.

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Speaker 8: But if they.

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Speaker 11: Somehow pull off that upset, then yeah, I guess they know.

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Speaker 11: They don't want to face the Seahawks again. Now they're

681
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Speaker 11: all talking about what we were out manned. Why what

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Speaker 11: do you expect us to do against Seattle. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 11: you guess you are.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean I thought they were a live dog against

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Speaker 7: whoever they faced in the first round of the playoffs

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Speaker 7: prior to the Seahawks game. But it just seems like

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Speaker 7: they got beat down physically and emotionally. You mentioned can't

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Speaker 7: stop Saquon Barkley. Do you think they're gonna play Boll

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Speaker 7: safeties fifteen yards from the line of scrimmage all day

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Speaker 7: against the Eagles like they did against the Hawks. What

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Speaker 7: did you make of the defensive scheme that Robert sala

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Speaker 7: played against Seattle.

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Speaker 8: It was just awful. I mean, I think the world

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Speaker 8: of him. I think he's a hell of a coach,

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Speaker 8: but I thought he was awful in this game.

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Speaker 11: And I thought he made the choice like I just

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Speaker 11: don't want to give up any big plays.

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Speaker 8: I want to bring this into the red zone and

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Speaker 8: then I'll do my best stuff there.

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Speaker 11: But you just gave up six yards of carry and

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Speaker 11: you conceded it. And then on third and three, third

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Speaker 11: and four, you're playing soft zone coverage and conceding first

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Speaker 11: down catches to Eric Salbert, it just felt like a

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Speaker 11: smarter game plan would be would be to load the

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Speaker 11: box and put the game in Donald's hands.

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Speaker 8: That's exactly where the Seahawks don't want it. Put it

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Speaker 8: in Donald's hands, make him make plays, and he didn't

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Speaker 8: do it. I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: Well, Grant Cohen, with us from the Niners media Corps,

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00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: covers the team for SI. I gotta tell you, Grant,

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Speaker 2: if I were a Niner fan, I'd be a little

713
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: bit tired of Diamador Leonor running his pie hole. I mean,

714
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Speaker 2: Richard Sherman ran his mouth a lot, but he backed

715
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Speaker 2: it up every single time he opened up his mouth, he.

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Speaker 3: Backed it up up.

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Speaker 2: And here comes Diamador Leonore talking about wanting to shadow Jaysn.

718
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Speaker 3: Well, he never does that against anybody.

719
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Speaker 2: Like all of his snaps have been almost exclusively on

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Speaker 2: the left side at left corner. Are are Niner fans

721
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Speaker 2: growing a little tired of how much this guy's chirping

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Speaker 2: down there at all?

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Speaker 11: I mean, I don't think they're tired of the chirping.

724
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Speaker 11: I think they wish he would just play better. I mean,

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Speaker 11: you're supposed to chirp, I guess if you're a number

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Speaker 11: one cornerback. But they gave him one snap, one on

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Speaker 11: one against JSN, and he made he committed a penalty

728
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Speaker 11: in the end zone and they went away from that

729
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Speaker 11: the rest of the game.

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Speaker 8: They gave him a big contract. He hasn't made any

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Speaker 8: plays this year.

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Speaker 11: They want him to play better, and I don't think

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Speaker 11: anyone thought he could match up with JSN man.

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Speaker 8: A man anyway.

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Speaker 11: I don't even know if he thought he could, but

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Speaker 11: it was it sounded good. All I want to know

737
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Speaker 11: is that he didn't show up in the locker room

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Speaker 11: the rest of the week. I'm thinking the Niners didn't

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Speaker 11: want him to say that. Maybe they're getting tired of that.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Hang on a second.

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Speaker 2: He did not show up in the locker room for

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Speaker 2: me last week for the for Afrey PopEd his mouth.

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Speaker 11: I think he was there after the game, but he

744
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Speaker 11: wasn't there Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, when he could have like

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Speaker 11: followed up and expanded on what he wanted to do

746
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Speaker 11: and what he thought he could do. He wasn't there,

747
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Speaker 11: And I'm guessing the team told him, hey, why don't

748
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Speaker 11: you hang out back here with the media.

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Speaker 7: Isn't party Trent Williams, Ricky Piersoll talk about how they're

750
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Speaker 7: feeling for this week.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I guess I'll have a better feeling tomorrow

752
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Speaker 11: when I get there. I'm in the facility, but I

753
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Speaker 11: can't imagine that Trent Williams will play. I mean, he's

754
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Speaker 11: three hundred and thirty pounds, he's thirty seven years old.

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Speaker 8: It's not an ankle injury. This is a hamstring injury.

756
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Speaker 8: You could make it way worse. You could tear it.

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Speaker 11: So he might want to play, but I don't know

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Speaker 11: that he physically can. And Ricky Piarsol seems like they

759
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Speaker 11: need to shut him down for the year. He's had

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Speaker 11: the same PCL injuries this week forward. Every time he

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Speaker 11: hits the grass, he limps off the field, So I

762
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Speaker 11: don't know how much he can really help. It just

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Speaker 11: kind of feels like the Niners. I don't know they're

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Speaker 11: gonna use the injury excuse and lose. That's kind of

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Speaker 11: the feeling I get.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Well, then you tell us then, from your

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Speaker 2: unbiased perspective down there in the Bay Area, how far

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Speaker 2: do you think the Seahawks team goes up?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 8: Man? I think that I think you have the best team

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Speaker 8: in the league.

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Speaker 11: I just it's palpable how much Clint Kubiak and Mike

773
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Speaker 11: McDonald don't trust Sam Donald and I wouldn't either. I mean,

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Speaker 11: when he missed first and goal from the one, you

775
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Speaker 11: didn't go to Sharpaonnay and he took a sack like

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Speaker 11: that's not a quarterback that looks like he's gonna win

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Speaker 11: a Super Bowl. So I'd be a little surprised. But

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Speaker 11: I do think you have the best team. It's it's interest.

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Speaker 8: What do you guys think.

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Speaker 2: I think the fact that they called that pass play

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Speaker 2: on first and goal from the one shows you that

782
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: they do believe in Sam Donald Fair. He just missed

783
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Speaker 2: a wide open receiver. I mean it was a that

784
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Speaker 2: was a horrible play, Grant. I mean, I'll admit that.

785
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Speaker 2: I think everybody would.

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Speaker 7: And then instead of throwing it away, he takes the sack.

787
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Speaker 3: Awful play.

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Speaker 11: What what in the other one where he gets stepped

789
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Speaker 11: on by the center and then when he tries to

790
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 11: pitch it, like just go down. More than that, I

791
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 11: felt like he had some poison. I think he's improving slowly.

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Speaker 2: I just wonder the Seahawks running game, Grant, that we

793
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Speaker 2: saw just tear that defense up, like we're following the

794
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: Seahawks all year obviously, man right, and the run game

795
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Speaker 2: has not been good for the majority of these and

796
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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden boom, in the last three weeks,

797
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Speaker 2: they go bananas. They're averaging how many yards per carry

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Speaker 2: Dick the last pay five point one, which is fourth

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. In the last three games like this,

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Speaker 2: this running game has come out of nowhere, and I'm

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Speaker 2: just I'm really curious, Grant, how much of what they

802
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 2: did against the Niners defense is because the Seahawks running

803
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: game is now legit or because the Niner run defense

804
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 2: is terrible.

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Speaker 8: Well, put it this way.

806
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Speaker 11: Two weeks before the Niners got emasculated by the Seahawks,

807
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 11: they went into Indianapolis and completely shut down Jonathan Taylor.

808
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Speaker 8: I mean there's something to be said for that.

809
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Speaker 11: I've always thought the world of Kenneth Walker and Zach Sharpney.

810
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Speaker 8: I think they're one of the better one to two

811
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 8: punches in the league.

812
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 11: So maybe the offensive line is coming around, maybe klink

813
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 11: Kubyak is getting a better feel for how to use them.

814
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,959
Speaker 8: But I think that running game is real.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Grant, great stuff.

816
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Speaker 2: We appreciate this, and who knows, maybe we will see

817
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: you guys very very soon.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it, man.

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Speaker 8: That would be a lot of fun, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: You bet