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Speaker 4: We always get to the headlines first, So here we go.

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Speaker 4: Red's pictures and catchers got to work today in goodyear

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Speaker 4: Arizona forty three days until opening day. By the way,

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Speaker 4: baseball news Today man twenty four hours of injuries, the

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Speaker 4: same one the hamdmate bone in the hand of met

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Speaker 4: shortstop Francisco Lindor had surgery out at least six weeks.

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Speaker 4: Arizona All star Corbyn Carrol right hand hammate bone. His

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Speaker 4: opening day status in doubt and oriole second basement. Jackson

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Speaker 2: What are the odds? College basketball?

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Speaker 4: Tonight, the Bearcats are in Manhattan, Kansas, looking to make

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Speaker 4: it back to back wins as they take on Kansas State.

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Speaker 4: Dan and Terry set it up coming up at eight

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Speaker 2: This is cool. The Big Twelve Conference announcing.

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Speaker 4: A state of the art full led video floor that

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Speaker 4: March in Kansas City. The tournament will mark the first

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Speaker 4: wild college football. Three Bearcats are headed to the Combine.

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Speaker 4: They get invites wide receiver Jeff Caldwell, defensive lineman Dante Corleone,

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Speaker 4: February twenty third through March the second. At the Olympics,

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Speaker 4: a third surgery on her broken leg since her crash

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Speaker 4: on Sunday. Third surgery on the leg took place earlier today.

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Speaker 4: For more, follow NBC's coverage of the Winter Games on

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Speaker 4: the iHeartRadio app NFL News. The Giants are hiring former

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Speaker 4: Carrie Combs, we'll check in at six thirty five now,

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Speaker 4: Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred. Ww All right, let's do this.

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Speaker 4: Do you realize what is happening in Oxford these days?

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Speaker 4: The Miami men's team last remaining unbeaten. The women's team

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Speaker 4: Major rankings. Angelo Rochardi the pitcher of the Week this week.

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Speaker 4: Miami hockey number twenty this week. David Deputy Conference Rookie

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Speaker 4: director of athletics for all this. Let's welcome in, David Sailor, David,

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Speaker 4: how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing fantastic. It's a great time in Oxford.

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Speaker 4: That was gonna be my starting point. Just incredible times

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Speaker 3: this isn't a fluky cute story. We won ten a

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Speaker 3: We just have a place that if you've been here,

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Speaker 4: Take me back four years ago, what did you see?

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Speaker 4: ESPN, CBS Sports Network. Everyone wants a piece of the

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Speaker 3: We've had sellouts in basketball to sellouts in a row

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Speaker 3: And you just listed all the places. It's amazing. It's

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Speaker 3: We have the best coaching staff. I've been here thirteen years,

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Speaker 4: Miami hockey went through a stretch where it was big time,

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Speaker 3: he is probably one of the best recruiters I've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: So there's more to come here. We're bringing in a

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Speaker 4: We're talking with David Saylor, the director of athletics for

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Speaker 4: the Miami RedHawks, who are winning at everything, anything and

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Speaker 4: everything at this point. It is so cool to see

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Speaker 3: There are plans and I can't think of a better

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Speaker 4: Congrats on on all that's going on and enjoy this

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Speaker 2: Very well, said David. Thanks for the time tonight.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: RNL Carrier Sports Stock presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred

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Speaker 4: ww Hey, welcome back in RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented

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Speaker 4: how are you?

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Speaker 5: Lance? Was any better?

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Speaker 4: I'd be you? You know I I after we traded

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, my family likes a free vacation. Carrie and

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Speaker 4: a connection with a previous relationship with Kyle Whittingham?

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Speaker 5: Now I had never met him. Uh, the connection would

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Speaker 5: be Urban Meyer.

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Speaker 6: Urban obviously was a head coach at Utah and Kyle

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Speaker 6: was his defensive coordinator twenty five years ago or whatever

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Speaker 6: that was, So that that would have been my connection.

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Speaker 6: Uh And and I certainly appreciate and value everything that

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Speaker 6: Urban has done for me in my career. And and

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Speaker 6: and uh, I am sure he had conversations with Kyle.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 6: Kyle was down there at the Sisters bull site, and

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Speaker 6: I got to meet with him down there a little bit,

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Speaker 6: and he invited me to stay, which I'm very grateful for.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 6: And and so that that was very exciting because I

451
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Speaker 6: was in that real limbo, you know, for three weeks,

452
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Speaker 6: didn't know if I'd have a job or not, and thinking, boy,

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Speaker 6: you shot all your toes off of this one. But

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Speaker 6: it's been fantastic, uh to be around another coaching staff

455
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Speaker 6: and get to meet another group of great men and

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Speaker 6: really lance that. The honest truth is, the kids are

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Speaker 6: wonderful here. People in Ohio don't want to hear that,

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Speaker 6: and you're probably not broadcasting in Detroit, but the kids

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Speaker 6: are wonderful here, and I really enjoy being around them

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Speaker 6: and coaching them, and that that's kind of you know,

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Speaker 6: for everybody's got a purpose in life, and it seems

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Speaker 6: like that's mine. And so being around those kids and

463
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Speaker 6: being around football and all of that is just such

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Speaker 6: such a blessing and a gift for me that I'm

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Speaker 6: I'm glad I'm getting to do it again.

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Speaker 4: So are you recruiting this area? Are you planning flags

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Speaker 4: in Cincinnati Greater Cincinnati.

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Speaker 6: No, they put a band up, They put like a

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Speaker 6: big wall up, won't let me cross the border. So

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Speaker 6: they you know, it's funny because recruiting college foot well,

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Speaker 6: it's changed so much. You're now allowed to have as

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Speaker 6: many coaches as you want, but only ten guys on

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Speaker 6: the road. So I did not go on the road

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Speaker 6: in the wintertime. I was doing portal crazy work at

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Speaker 6: back home. I had to pick up a bunch of

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Speaker 6: guys in UH to.

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Speaker 5: Our roster, to add to our roster.

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Speaker 6: So that was kind of what I was doing and

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Speaker 6: and and that worked out really well.

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Speaker 5: I would would I love to recruit Cincinnati. Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: Some of the best friends in the world are coaching

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Speaker 6: high school ball down there, and as you know, you're

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Speaker 6: not gonna find any better high school football anywhere in

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Speaker 6: the world than Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: Ohio.

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Speaker 6: So if given the opportunity, I'll be planting flags like

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Speaker 6: crazy Lance, I'll come plant one in your back anytime.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome anytime, ability, right, Yeah, yeah, it might be.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I know you spent two seasons I think it

490
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Speaker 4: was two seasons with the Tennessee Titans and with Mike Vrabel,

491
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Speaker 4: who is this year's NFL Coach of the Year obviously

492
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Speaker 4: had the Patriots to the Super Bowl. Man, you got

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Speaker 4: to be happy for him, and I would imagine you're

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Speaker 4: not at all surprised by the success he's had.

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Speaker 5: Not one bit, And I was. I spent I went

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Speaker 5: up there mini camp with those guys.

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Speaker 6: There's about six guys on that staff that I coached with.

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Speaker 6: Mike is Mike is everything you see on TV. That's

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Speaker 6: exactly who he is. And uh, I love Mike Brabel.

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Speaker 6: I loved coaching for him. It was a phenomenal experience.

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Speaker 6: I learned a lot from him and I wouldn't trade

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Speaker 6: her on anything in the world.

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Speaker 5: I'm not surprised he's going to be successful. They're going

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Speaker 5: to win there. Uh they're gonna win for a long time.

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Speaker 5: And uh I was.

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Speaker 6: I was sad to see that they didn't win it.

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Speaker 6: But I also know Mike and they'll be back.

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Speaker 4: I'm so happy for you. Uh I, it is so

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Speaker 4: great to hear your voice, and I miss you.

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Speaker 5: It's great to be heard.

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Speaker 6: You were calling me when I was sitting on the couch.

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Speaker 6: So I'm just telling you, it's good to be relevant.

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Speaker 6: And in life, you know, we all have that where

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Speaker 6: we have a need to be relevant, and it's good

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Speaker 6: to be that again, because when you're sitting on the couch,

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Speaker 6: nobody really cares what you're doing.

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Speaker 5: And uh, I'm glad you reached out. I love coming

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Speaker 5: on your show.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad I'm not talking about the fifth reliever for

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Speaker 6: the Reds tonight, and I'm sure he's got to have

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Speaker 6: some kind of surgery.

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Speaker 5: I never heard of a hand bone or whatever.

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Speaker 4: That thing was a hamdmaid, a hamdmaid. It's that that

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Speaker 4: bone in the back of your hand.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the silliest damn thing I've ever heard of.

526
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Speaker 5: And three of them got it all at once.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know it, We're forty eight days away

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Speaker 6: from opening day, lance it ain't that important just yet.

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Speaker 6: Let's keep talking about football, and let's keep talking about Cincinnati,

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Speaker 6: and you know me, Lance, I'll be available to you any.

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Speaker 5: Freaking time I can. I can take the call.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk to you.

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Speaker 4: You are you are one of a kind. It is uh,

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Speaker 4: it is so great catching up. Congrats and uh true.

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Speaker 4: I I just I love talking with you and I'm

536
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Speaker 4: glad we could hook up tonight.

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Speaker 2: I hope we can do it again.

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Speaker 6: I'll be available anytime for you, Lance. You know that

539
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Speaker 6: I appreciate that. And people in Cincinnati, I love you dearly.

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Speaker 6: I'll be back when I can. And don't throw things

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Speaker 6: at me at the grocery store.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, carry all right, all right, take care there you go.

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Speaker 2: All right, Carrie Combs, unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: I love that guy. I just love that guy. And

545
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Speaker 4: don't throw things at him. Geez, oh man, let's do this.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a time out.

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Speaker 2: Oh there.

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00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 4: I laughed because I still think of the night he

549
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 4: called in and blasted me on. He just called the

550
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 4: hotlight to simply blast me one night for having never

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Speaker 4: watched The Godfather. That is somewhere in the archives. A're

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Speaker 4: gonna to play that again sometime. And then I watched

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Speaker 4: The Godfather.

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Speaker 2: It was great. And then I watched the second one and.

555
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Speaker 4: It wasn't so great, but you called and gave me

556
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Speaker 4: the hardest time that night. Let's get into some Reds conversation.

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Speaker 4: What do you think around the corner. It's RNL Carrier

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Speaker 4: Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevalet, seven HUNDREDLW move it

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Speaker 4: up on seven o'clock, rapidly moving first hour, about to

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Speaker 4: be cloaked with news about three and a half minutes away.

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Speaker 4: US adds five more medals on Day five of the Olympics.

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Speaker 4: Team USA now has twelve medals, six third in the

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Speaker 4: medal count. Follow NBC's coverage of the Winter Games on

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Speaker 4: the I Hurt Radio app. Loved the conversation in our

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Speaker 4: first hour tonight with David Saylor, Miami's director of athletics,

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Speaker 4: and Kerry Comes, Michigan special teams coordinator. We are by

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Speaker 4: the way team minus forty three days the Reds opening day.

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Speaker 4: Forty three days to Red's opening day. Alexis Diaz was

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Speaker 4: number forty three. Scott Schebler wore forty three. Scott Schebler

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Speaker 4: one of the more almost like forgotten thirty home run

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Speaker 4: seasons of any Red Maybe in my lifetime. Manny Para

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Speaker 4: was number forty three, a lefty on that twenty thirteen

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Speaker 4: playoff team. Miguel Cairo Clubhouse veteran leader, wore the number

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Speaker 4: forty three. Josh Hancock was number forty three. Josh pitched

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Speaker 4: for the Reds in four and five, tragically died in

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Speaker 4: an automobile accident at the age of twenty nine. Jimmy Haynes,

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Speaker 4: who won fifteen games for the Reds in two thousand

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Speaker 4: and two and then the next year went two and

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Speaker 4: twelve with a six thirty earned run average for the

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Speaker 4: number forty three. Oswaldo Fernandez, Mike Remlinger, who pitched for

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Speaker 4: the Reds in the late nineties, not on that ninety

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Speaker 4: nineteen though, but the best of them all, the best

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Speaker 4: read to wear the number forty three Cactus Jack Jack

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Speaker 4: Billingham won double digit games for the red six straight years,

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Speaker 4: back to back nineteen wins seasons. In nineteen seventy three,

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Speaker 4: Jack Billingham made forty starts, he threw seven shutouts, and

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Speaker 4: he tossed two hundred and ninety three innings. But perhaps

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Speaker 4: not perhaps my best recollection best memory of Jack Billingham

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Speaker 4: would be as my manager, our manager, my dad and

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Speaker 4: I on our championship two thousand and six Baseball Heaven

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Speaker 4: Team Jack Billingham, number forty three, forty three days from

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Speaker 4: Red's opening day. All right, in the seven o'clock hour

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Speaker 4: last night, we talked about how we felt about the

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Speaker 4: Reds starting rotation and the decisions to be made throughout

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Speaker 4: the course of camp. Let's end the seven o'clock hour

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Speaker 4: and we'll open up the phones talk about the Reds

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Speaker 4: bullpen and how we feel about the Reds bullpen and

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Speaker 4: decisions to be made. Last year, the pen went thirty

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Speaker 4: and thirty with an earned run average of three point

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Speaker 4: eighty nine. The Reds bullpen era was fourteenth best, so

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Speaker 4: it was a tick above a notch above league average

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Speaker 4: in Major League Baseball. I believe this year it has

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Speaker 4: a chance to be good. Dare I say?

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Speaker 2: Could I say?

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Speaker 4: Dare I say really good? I'll go with good for now.

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Speaker 4: I think they've got a chance to be good. There's

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Speaker 4: a lot of a lot in flux. I mean they

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Speaker 4: lost one, two, three full, They've lost it. At least

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Speaker 4: four guys who wanted through sixty eight innings, waned through

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Speaker 4: seven sixty seven, waned through twenty five one who combined

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Speaker 4: starting we're living through one sixty five. You're gonna have

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Speaker 4: to replace those innings. They've added three relievers. I think

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Speaker 4: seven of the eight spots are filled. There's one to

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Speaker 4: be determined. There's depth beyond that to be discussed, but

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Speaker 4: I think there is. I think there's reason to be excited.

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Speaker 4: And the way I look at it, forty three days

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Speaker 4: after from spring training, doing this show, we're doing a

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Speaker 4: Reds topic every night. I don't know how long the

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Speaker 4: topic will be. I don't know how long it'll run

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Speaker 4: on a given night, but I don't know. I think

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Speaker 4: it's safe to say we're inside the window. We're doing

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Speaker 4: a Reds topic every night, and tonight's topic how we

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Speaker 4: feel about the bullpen. That discussion begins after news. It's

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Speaker 4: Arnail Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: The following takes place between seven pm and eight pm.

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Speaker 4: Ky Let's keep it moving seven o'clock hour underway seven

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Speaker 4: h seven to be precise. On seven hundred WLW. I'm

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Speaker 4: Lance McAllister. I'm the host of the show. Joe Waddell

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Speaker 4: the producer of the show. We thank you, as always

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Speaker 4: for being a listener to the show. We ride until

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Speaker 4: eight thirty tonight, when we hand things off to Dan

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Speaker 4: and Terry. You see basketball the Bearcats play here. First

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Speaker 4: hour tonight spent talking Miami Athletics and what the heck

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Speaker 4: is going on in Oxford. Well, it's simple winning, winning

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Speaker 4: in everything. Right now, David Saylor checked in Kerry Combs,

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Speaker 4: Michigan's new special teams coordinator. We got into some Reds conversation.

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Speaker 4: That becomes our topic a in this hour, we'll open

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Speaker 4: up the lines for Red's bullpen talk at five, one, three, seven,

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Speaker 4: four nine, seven thousand, one eight hundred, the Big One.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's get into an update on FC Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: They concluded the preseason today with the loss to Orlando

648
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Speaker 4: City sc in Tampa three two Evander scores in the

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Speaker 4: twenty first minute, they're focus now shifts. You know they

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Speaker 4: start playing next Wednesday, Next Wednesday, a week from tonight.

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Speaker 4: They play in the Conka CAF Champions Cup Round one

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Speaker 4: first leg against O and m FC, the Dominican Republic

653
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Speaker 4: kickoff at seven o'clock, and the MLS opener Saturday, February

654
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Speaker 4: twenty first against Atlanta United FC. There's your soccer update.

655
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Speaker 4: If you haven't seen their new kits for this season

656
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Speaker 4: and check them out. They look pretty sweet, all right

657
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 4: to the Reds bullpen conversation. I said last night of

658
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 4: the rotation, I like the rotation I would take. I

659
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Speaker 4: would take that rotation and feel good about it going

660
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Speaker 4: into any series in this twenty twenty sixth season. I

661
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 4: think there's four that are locked in. I think the

662
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 4: decision comes at the fifth spot, and whether it's Chase

663
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 4: Burns or r At louder and whichever, what it is,

664
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Speaker 4: what happens to the other? Does the other go to

665
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Speaker 4: the pen? Does the other go to Triple A Louisville?

666
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Speaker 4: Do they pitch every five days at Louisville and wait

667
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 4: till help is needed? Insurance for an injury. They can't

668
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 4: have many injuries because they're not a whole lot of depth.

669
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Speaker 4: Beyond that, they'll have two guys coming back from Tommy

670
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 4: John surgery and Julian Aggie Are and Brandon Williamson. They've

671
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: got a rookie and Jose Franco who had just a

672
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 4: few games at Triple A. And they have Chase Petty,

673
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: who was a top one hundred prospect who had a really,

674
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 4: really poor season last year where he got knocked around

675
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 4: at Triple A and then really got knocked around in

676
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 4: two games. He had no business being called up to

677
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Speaker 4: start for the Reds. As far as the bullpen goes,

678
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 4: it was a league average bullpen, right in the middle

679
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 4: of the pack, a smidge above the middle of the pack.

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Speaker 4: I think it's got a chance to be better this year.

681
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Speaker 4: In the offseason, they lose Scott Barlow. That hurts. Scott

682
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Speaker 4: Barlow is a guy who would pitch every day. He

683
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Speaker 4: would pitch however many innings, whatever innings, whatever day. Scott

684
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Speaker 4: Barlow would pitch sixty eight to third innings. Free agents

685
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Speaker 4: signed with the A's Brent Souter gave him sixty seven

686
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Speaker 4: and two thirds innings. He leaves signs a one year

687
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Speaker 4: deal with Anaheim. Send him a text saying best of

688
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Speaker 4: luck and excited for him and gonna miss him, and

689
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Speaker 4: he said pass along his appreciation for all of Cincinnati

690
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 4: and this will always be home, and he's looking forward

691
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Speaker 4: to his first season with the Angels. Nick Mark Tinez

692
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 4: is gone one hundred and sixty five innings between the

693
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Speaker 4: bullpen and the rotation. Those are one hundred and sixty

694
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Speaker 4: five big innings. Somebody's got to pick up. And to

695
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Speaker 4: a lesser extent, Ian Jabo gone with his twenty five

696
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Speaker 4: and a third innings. That's what was lost. They re

697
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Speaker 4: sign Emilio Pagan. They add three in free agency, Caleb Ferguson,

698
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Speaker 4: who's twenty nine seven major league seasons, left hander Pierce Johnson,

699
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Speaker 4: who came recommended by Emilio Pagan. They're good friends. Pierce

700
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Speaker 4: Johnson pitched for the Braves last year with a three

701
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Speaker 4: to zero five earned run average and throws his curveball

702
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Speaker 4: eighty two percent of the time. And I love what

703
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Speaker 4: I love what Amelio told me at Redsfest, and then

704
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 4: I asked Tito about it as well, the fact that

705
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Speaker 4: Pierce Johnson's curveball brings a different look in that bullpen.

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Speaker 4: Nobody in that pen has the type of curveball that

707
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Speaker 4: Pierce Johnson has, So it's always good when you can

708
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 4: get different looks lefty right, hard tosser, soft tosser, good

709
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 4: breaking ball, good off speed pitch, you name it, because

710
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 4: that changes up from one pitcher to the next what

711
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 4: the opposing team has to adjust to.

712
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Speaker 2: That's a good thing.

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Speaker 4: And Pierce Johnson's gonna bring that eighty two percent of

714
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Speaker 4: the time with a Keller curveball. And then brock Burke

715
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Speaker 4: twenty nine years old, another lefty. It's pitched in the

716
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Speaker 4: World Series. They put it, they'll have at least two lefties.

717
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 4: Maybe if Sam Mall makes the team, they have three lefties.

718
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Speaker 4: I think the bullpen right now has seven spots accounted

719
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Speaker 4: for Emelio Pagan, Tony Santion, Caleb Ferguson, Pierce Johnson, brock Burke,

720
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Speaker 4: Graham Ashcraft, and Connor Phillips. I think that final spot

721
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Speaker 4: could go to the odd man out on the fifth

722
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 4: spot in the rotation, Burns or Louder. Maybe it's Sam Mall.

723
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Speaker 4: They go with three lefties and Sam performs well coming

724
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Speaker 4: back from injury.

725
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a.

726
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Speaker 4: Guy who I really can't wait to see what his

727
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: next step is going to look like. And he dipped

728
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 4: his toe in the major leg waters for the first

729
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 4: time last year and it's the big guy six six,

730
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Speaker 4: two seventy five, big sugar Zach Maxwell. He joined me

731
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Speaker 4: at Redsfest and just I don't know how to describe it.

732
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Speaker 4: Just his presence and his confidence without being cocky about

733
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 4: what he learned last season in ten appearances, has me thinking, man,

734
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Speaker 4: once he got a taste of it, if in fact

735
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 4: he has taken it and run with what he learned,

736
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Speaker 4: what he could be for this bullpen. Listen to what

737
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 4: Zach Maxwell told me about his debut in twenty twenty

738
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Speaker 4: five when he joined me at Reds Fest. You made

739
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 4: your major league debut last year. You lived a dream

740
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 4: you played as a kid, You get to the big leagues.

741
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 4: What was it like reaching the big leagues last year?

742
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: For year, it's indescribable.

743
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 7: You think of I mean, anybody that's ever had personal goals,

744
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 7: you know, when you're so close to those goals, so

745
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 7: close to that finish line, being able to like through

746
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 7: the year a little bit. Last year, I wasn't. It

747
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 7: wasn't going my way for a little bit. It had

748
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 7: a little bit of a rough patch towards the end

749
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Speaker 7: of the summer, and I turned it around, got you know,

750
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 7: got back on the horse, turned it around and come August,

751
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 7: you know, they give me the call. And that's just

752
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 7: one of those things where it's like finally, you know,

753
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 7: you you you know, take you take a deep breath.

754
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 7: You know, you get on the flight, you go out there,

755
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 7: and you know, you get to the hotel, you're nervous.

756
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 7: You get on the bus to go to the field,

757
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 7: you're nervous. But then you get in. You get in

758
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 7: there the clubhouse and you're greeted by all the guys

759
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 7: that have just been you know, they know you're coing

760
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 7: and they're just elated to see you because you know

761
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 7: they were once you you know, they all they all

762
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 7: have major league debuts too, so they know the feeling.

763
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 7: They're nothing but friendly to you. You know, they they

764
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 7: want you to succeed. Of course, you know, you want

765
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 7: to win baseball games, and so all those guys having

766
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 7: your back, and you go out there and it's just

767
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 7: you just you know, drowning a little bit. You just

768
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 7: soak it all in and you know, I thankfully I

769
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 7: had a pretty good debut. I threw the ball. Well,

770
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 7: there's always a big fear that the first one's not

771
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 7: going to go well. Uh, that definitely crept into my

772
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 7: mind for a little bit, was like, hey, you know

773
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 7: what if I just absolutely don't pitch good? But no,

774
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 7: we had a we had a pretty good one, something

775
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 7: great to look back on. And then you know, getting

776
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 7: called up in the middle of a plaoff push that. Yeah,

777
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 7: so the trust, you know, the staff has me, and

778
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 7: that meant a lot too. You know, I get to

779
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 7: talk to all those guys about it, and you know,

780
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 7: knowing those guys had my back through thick and thin.

781
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 7: For all those guys was just electric.

782
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: You got ten innings of major league work in, so

783
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 4: I'm sure there were there were learning moments along the way.

784
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 4: Coming out of it. How do you feel and and

785
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 4: what is it? What did it mean for this offseason

786
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 4: in terms of things you wanted to work on?

787
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 2: It felt great learning curves of course.

788
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 7: I mean these are all big leaguers, you know, you

789
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 7: get I got to face the Blue Jays twice they

790
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 7: lost in the World Series, and I got to pitch

791
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 7: against ageinther the Dodgers, who was one of the World Series.

792
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 7: So I get to play against the other teams that

793
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 7: are standing at the end of October, and just you know,

794
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 7: the talent up and down the lineup, so you can

795
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 7: never have a pitch off. Right, These are all big

796
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 7: leaguers one through nine. You may think, oh, they're nine

797
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 7: hole hitter. It's no, it's a guy making millions of

798
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 7: dollars in the big leagues and there's no time off

799
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 7: and just a learning curve. But just being there every

800
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 7: you know, through every pitch, no pitches off, and just competing.

801
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 7: It's all about competing. He know, some days's not gonna

802
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 7: have your best stuff long season, yep, one sixty two.

803
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 7: You're get well out of bed one day and it's

804
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 7: not gonna feel good, but you're still gonna get called upon.

805
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 7: So just that ability to.

806
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 4: Compete is is that the approach going into spring training

807
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 4: in terms of roles and where you fit, is it

808
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 4: just go in, do my best and what happens will happen.

809
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, I you know, I was. I was there at

810
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 7: the end of the year. They obviously saw enough and

811
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 7: who did put me in that spot? And I have

812
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,479
Speaker 7: to go and show them that I'm still there and more.

813
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 7: And of course it's just competition. Competition breed success no

814
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,479
Speaker 7: matter what it is. Say, you know, spring train doesn't

815
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 7: go my way, and I still compete it, and I

816
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 7: still have more to prove, of course.

817
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 2: Zach Maxwell, big fan.

818
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 4: I just I again that that confidence, in that presence

819
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 4: without being cocky and seemingly how excited he was for

820
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 4: what he learned and what that may turn into in

821
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: his second season. Can't wait to watch him a couple

822
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 4: other guys. I can't wait to see a couple of guys.

823
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 4: I'm a little bit I don't want to say leary

824
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 4: cautious of Maybe let's get into some Reds bullpen Talk

825
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 4: next five one, three, seven, four nine, eight hundred The

826
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Speaker 4: Big One Join the conversation is we can you with

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Speaker 4: RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevallet.

828
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Speaker 2: Seven hundred WLW.

829
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Speaker 4: Hey, iheartmediaan seven hundred WLW salute Cincinnati's own practing gamble.

830
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Speaker 4: If you've got someone there you would like for us

831
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Speaker 4: to recognize on air, text us their name to five

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Speaker 4: to one, eight eight one. That's five to one, eight

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Speaker 4: eight one and b listening seven twenty three, seven hundred

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Speaker 4: WLW RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevallet. The

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Speaker 4: show mentioned earlier, the Reds have announced a an added

836
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Speaker 4: bobblehead two one's a Harry Potter one is an Auhdeo Swarz.

837
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Speaker 2: I think June.

838
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Speaker 4: Twenty fourth, if I look back at my notes from

839
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Speaker 4: earlier tonight, I mentioned bobbleheads because and giveaways, because yesterday

840
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 4: the Rangers announced one that is absolutely fantastic. Nolan Ryan

841
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 4: bloody lip jersey giveaway to all fans. They're giving away

842
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 4: a T shirt that is a Rangers jersey look with

843
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 4: blood stains all over the front of it. Because in

844
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 4: September of nineteen ninety, Nolan Ryan pitching for the Rangers

845
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 4: against the White Sox, pitching to Bo Jackson, and bow

846
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 4: hits a one hopper, a smash right back up the

847
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 4: box and it hit Nolan Ryan in the face and

848
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 4: it put a gash in his lip and blood squirt

849
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 4: it everywhere on his jersey and it's pouring down his chin.

850
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 4: And he picks up the ball and he throws the

851
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 4: first and he kept pitching. He stayed in the game.

852
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 4: He threw seven innings of one hit ball and ni

853
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: can get stitches until after the game he needed six.

854
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 4: But it's an iconic moment, one of many in Nolan

855
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 4: Ryan's career, captured now in a T shirt giveaway. The

856
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 4: Nolan Ryan bloody lip jersey giveaway, and I saw a

857
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 4: couple others the Rangers have. They're doing a Brandon Nemo

858
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 4: bull riding bobblehead, a Wyatt Langford sliding catch bobblehead, Skip Schumacher,

859
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 4: their manager ninety style concert shirt, a Hello Kitty jersey

860
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 4: and a sleeveless Ian Kinsler jersey from two thousand and eight,

861
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 4: all part of the Ranger giveaways. I love Ryan bloody

862
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 4: lip giveaway. All right, the Red's bullpen seven of eight

863
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 4: spots taken final spot Maybe to the odd man out

864
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 4: of burns are louder, Maybe to say them all if

865
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Speaker 4: they go with three Lefty Sam is healthy and pitch

866
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 4: as well in the spring, who knows Zach Maxwell Luis

867
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 4: may possibilities of the long shot, the dark horse who

868
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: everybody's rooting for. Tj Antne. Reasons to be excited. The

869
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 4: veteran closer returns veteran additions and better depth than a

870
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 4: year ago. And some young guy, a guy like Connor

871
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 4: Phillips who really took a step forward. Reason to be concerned.

872
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 4: Heavy workloads of last year. Tony Santion pitched a career

873
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 4: high eighty games, eighty second most in all of baseball,

874
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 4: and Pagan pitched a career high seventy games. Can in

875
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 4: My only hesitation on the Pagan deal was this, it feels.

876
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: Like they well they did.

877
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 4: They got the best there's ever been out of Emilio

878
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 4: Pagan this year, this past season, it's the best he's pitched.

879
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 4: How close can he get to replicating that at the

880
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 4: age of thirty two this season. I'm not predicting he

881
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's going to be bad or fall

882
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 4: off a cliff, But when you've already gotten the best

883
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 4: of his career and you're thirty two, at some point

884
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 4: the performance starts to go back down the other side.

885
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 4: And can they replace the everyday help that was offered

886
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 4: by Barlow? Who who assumes that can Sam Maul bounce

887
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 4: back from injury? But you put that on a scale

888
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 4: and I think there's more pluses than negatives right now

889
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 4: in how this bullpen looks. I'm excited to see the

890
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 4: three new guys. Maybe I'm putting too much into the

891
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 4: new guy since I haven't seen him and there's the

892
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 4: built in excitement, But man, what Counnor Phillips did in

893
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 4: his return after not pitching at all in the majors

894
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four. He handled himself quite well. And

895
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: I want to get into maybe after the news for

896
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 4: as much hand ringing as there seemed to be with

897
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: Graham Ashcraft, if you look at the numbers, what Graham

898
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 4: did in his first season as a reliever after leaving

899
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 4: the rotation, and how his stuff played as a reliever

900
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 4: could only leave you excited about the possibilities of this season.

901
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 4: I like this pen, so I really like the rotation

902
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 4: and I like this pen. And those are the topics

903
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 4: in back to back nights with pitchers and catchers reporting.

904
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 4: So let's talk about it. In Montgomery, Mark, you were

905
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 4: on seven hundred WLW.

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00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 8: Hey, Lance, could the talkie again?

907
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: Love talking with you? Yeah, thank you?

908
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 5: Hey. Hey.

909
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 8: You know, I think the key thing with this bullpen,

910
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 8: and really any bullpen, is you've got to have You've

911
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 8: got to have shut down relief in that middle relief role.

912
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 8: Now at these starters going five innings and one hundred pitches, yes,

913
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 8: and if you look at the if you look at

914
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 8: the Brewers the last five years, that bullpen of theirs

915
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 8: has been absolutely lights out. I mean the e er

916
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Speaker 8: is microscopic, and you know, you've got to have middle relief. Today,

917
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 8: everybody's got some guys that can pitch at the end

918
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Speaker 8: of the game, but that middle spot is really critical,

919
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 8: and you know that's that's what I'm gonna be watching

920
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 8: this year.

921
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are so many games won or lost. And

922
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 4: you're right, when the average Red starter went five and

923
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 4: a third last year, the average major league starter just

924
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 4: to tick over five. So there's so many games where

925
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 4: that six seventh inning is where that becomes the pivot

926
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Speaker 4: point of the game where they're won or lost. And

927
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Speaker 4: then sometimes you know what, those last two you just

928
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 4: close out your win. And it's just if you don't

929
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 4: hang on and secure that six or seventh, you're you're dead.

930
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: Is just the way the game is now.

931
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean people don't like it, but that's that's

932
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 8: the way the game is, and it's not going to change.

933
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Speaker 8: And you've got to have lights out relief. And I

934
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Speaker 8: think the one thing the Reds have is that, you know,

935
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Speaker 8: some of these guys you're mentioning Louder or Burns if

936
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Speaker 8: they're not in the rotation, you know, you got us

937
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 8: spot there and that's fifth and you know that's fifth

938
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 8: and sixth inning. And seventh inning.

939
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 2: You you need, you.

940
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Speaker 8: Really need two guys because very very seldom do any

941
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 8: of these guys go past six innings anyway.

942
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

943
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 8: That's something to keep an eye on and what happens here,

944
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 8: because I think that's really the pivot point in this division.

945
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 8: Who's gonna who's whose bullpen is going to pitch those

946
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 8: mini reliefs innings the best? Well, I think that's where

947
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 8: the division is gonna be won.

948
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: Very well said, thanks Mark, You're welcome. It's almost it's

949
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: almost now like.

950
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 4: The first of two save situations, because when your starters

951
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 4: are going five to five and a third, what do

952
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 4: you do with the next two before you get to

953
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 4: your setup and your closer. I mean, in the old

954
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 4: way of thinking was get to the setup man in

955
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 4: the eighth and your closer in the ninth. Now it's

956
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Speaker 4: who's gonna be able to take care of six?

957
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: Seven?

958
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 5: Oh?

959
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 4: Look what I did there? I didn't even do it

960
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 4: on purpose. I was such a dork. And then who

961
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 4: handles the eighth and ninth? And Connor Phillips? I mean

962
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 4: last year Connor Phillips pitched in twenty four games. His

963
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 4: earned run average was two eighty eight, and once you

964
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 4: kind of get past the visual of him reminding you

965
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Speaker 4: of Lucas Simms. And there were some times where Lucas

966
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 4: it was a little unnerving, but once he got past that,

967
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 4: you watch it.

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Speaker 2: His stuff was nasty.

969
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 4: He gave up one run over the final ten games

970
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 4: he appeared in, and so that lengthen's at your bullpen,

971
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Speaker 4: and that gives you options in sixth, the seventh, and

972
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 4: then eighth, and then handing things off to Emelia Pegan

973
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 4: in the ninth in most cases. But I'll give you

974
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Speaker 4: a guy I'm intrigued by a little bit more when

975
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 4: we come back, and that's Graham Ashcraft, and I'll explain

976
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Speaker 4: why plus still ahead. One of those classic where were

977
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Speaker 4: you moments, I'll give you the moment and tell you

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1003
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 4: some experience under their belt, what can they do with it?

1004
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 4: This time around? Luis May has a world of talent.

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00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 4: It's not harnessed yet. He pitched twenty one innings last

1006
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 4: year and he walked seventeen guys. That's not gonna fly.

1007
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 4: Can't do that. Zach Maxwell, big body, big arm, throws heat.

1008
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 4: Learned in those ten appearances, and I'm excited to see

1009
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,479
Speaker 4: what he might be able to do. But the guy,

1010
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 4: I don't think gets enough credit for the transition he made.

1011
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 4: And for whatever reason, there is to a certain extent

1012
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 4: some hand ringing with him. He brings out frustration in

1013
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 4: some fans. That's Graham Ashcraft. And understand what he did

1014
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 4: last season. He moved to the bullpen for the first time.

1015
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 4: So he went from pitching in a routine of once

1016
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 4: every five days to getting the call and pitching sometimes

1017
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 4: back to back days or every other day, or two

1018
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 4: or three times a week. And there's an adjustment to that.

1019
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 4: And in his case, he is a two pitch pitcher,

1020
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 4: a cutter slider, and the thought being his stuff would

1021
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 4: play better in the bullpen. You get to, in most cases,

1022
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 4: face a lineup one time. They don't get a second

1023
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 4: look at you. They certainly don't get a third look

1024
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 4: at you. As the numbers will show the more a

1025
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 4: hitter gets to look at a pitcher, the more success

1026
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 4: they have. First time he might get you, but once

1027
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 4: you see him, the success rate of the hitter goes

1028
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 4: up the second time, it goes up the third time.

1029
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 4: It's why in many cases starting pitchers are out by

1030
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 4: the fifth inning by the third time through the order.

1031
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 4: So in the case of Ashcraft, like it limited his

1032
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 4: exposure and it allowed his two pitches to play better

1033
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 4: over an inning or an inning in a third or

1034
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 4: two thirds, these are the results. His strikeout rate went up.

1035
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 4: There's also the aspect of you could argue Graham Ashcraft overthrow.

1036
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 4: Sometimes he just ars back and throws heat, and it's

1037
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 4: one thing to do that over five innings. It's something

1038
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 4: entirely different to do it over one inning, when you

1039
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 4: can just rare back and let it fly for one

1040
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 4: inning and not have to worry about any pacing. His

1041
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 4: strikeout rate last year as a reliever went from sixteen

1042
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 4: percent of batter struck out to twenty two and a

1043
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 4: half percent of batter struck out.

1044
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: That is a sizable jump.

1045
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 4: He limited hard contact, meaning the exit velocity how hard

1046
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 4: hitters hit him. He was in the ninety nine percentile

1047
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 4: last year. That's I mean one hundred percent. Obviously he's

1048
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 4: the best. That's how good he was at limiting batter's

1049
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 4: ability to really square him up, make good contact and

1050
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 4: hit him. His chase rate was the one hundred percentile

1051
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 4: best in baseball, getting batters to chase something that wasn't

1052
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 4: a strike, something out of the zone that starts out

1053
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 4: looking like a strike but has movement to get out

1054
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 4: of the strike zone. He was in the highest percentile

1055
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 4: in baseball getting guys to do what they don't want

1056
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 4: to do, swing at balls in His ground ball rate

1057
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 4: was in the ninety six percentile at all of baseball.

1058
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 4: That's getting batters to beat the ball into the ground,

1059
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 4: including at Great American Ballpark. All of those are huge numbers.

1060
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, speaking of the ground balls

1061
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 4: in sixty five innings last year, do you realize how

1062
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 4: many home runs Graham Ashcraft gave up two two in

1063
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 4: sixty five innings. So he converts to a reliever in

1064
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 4: his first year. He doesn't allow opposing batters to hit

1065
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 4: him hard. He makes them chase pitches out of the

1066
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 4: strike zone. He gets them to keep the ball on

1067
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 4: the ground, and he gets a higher rate of strikeouts

1068
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 4: than he had as a starter. And yeah, you can

1069
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 4: look and say, well, but Lance's earned run average was

1070
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 4: three ninety nine. That's not great. Well, one, earned run

1071
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 4: averages get easily skewed when you're a relaf pitcher because

1072
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 4: you don't pitch a lot of innings. If you have

1073
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 4: one bad outing, that's gonna skew your earned run average

1074
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Speaker 4: for a long time. There's also a number, and then

1075
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Speaker 4: I get too deep in the weeds on analytics. There's

1076
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Speaker 4: a number called FIP in it's fielding independent pitching, and

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Speaker 4: it's it's what you control. It takes out balls hit

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00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 4: to fielders and what they did with him, And is

1079
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 4: his FIP, which is kind of like a secondary earned

1080
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 4: run average was two seventy two. So I think he

1081
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 4: had a much much better season than maybe most realized.

1082
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, that was his first year

1083
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 4: trying it. How much better might he be in his

1084
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 4: second year of understanding his body in his arm and

1085
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 4: being prepared to pitch back to back days or two

1086
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 4: times in three times three days, or three times in

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00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 4: five days. I think that is like an undervalued wait

1088
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 4: and see plus for the Red's bullpen at least, I

1089
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 4: hope it is all right. There are certain moments in

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00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 4: life that connect to sports moments, those where you were,

1091
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 4: moments they happened and you know exactly where you were

1092
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 4: that happened on this date in nineteen ninety. Today is

1093
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 4: the anniversary of Buster Douglas stunning the undefeated, undisputed heavyweight

1094
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 4: champion of the world, Mike Tyson in Tokyo.

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00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 8: And what.

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Speaker 4: Is certainly, in the conversation, among the biggest upsets in

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Speaker 4: sports history. Tysoon is only twenty three. He was thirty seven,

1098
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 4: and oh he was the baddest man on the planet.

1099
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 4: Buster Douglas was twenty nine and going into the fight,

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00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 4: he was a forty two to one underdog, forty two

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Speaker 4: to one. And I know exactly where I was. I

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00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 4: was walking onto the set of WSBTTV in South Bend.

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00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 4: We had gone to the commercial break after the weather.

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00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 4: As I sat down on the set to do my

1105
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 4: sports cast and I plug in. You wear an earpiece,

1106
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 4: it's called an IFB.

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00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: You plug it in.

1108
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 4: It allows the producer to talk to you and give

1109
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 4: you cues that you may need of what's coming up,

1110
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 4: or maybe a tape's not ready, whatever the case.

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00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 5: May be.

1112
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Speaker 4: And my executive producer, Dean Turkle said to me as

1113
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 4: I sat down and I plugged in, and we're in

1114
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 4: the commercial break, you know, two minutes two minutes till air,

1115
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 4: and he says, in my ear, buddy, you've got a

1116
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 4: new lead story. Mike Tyson just got knocked out by

1117
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 4: Buster Douglas.

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00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 2: In Tokyo and all heck broke loose.

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00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 4: In fact, moments ago, I sent that text to Dean Turkele,

1120
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 4: who I haven't seen in probably a good two decades,

1121
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 4: and his response was, you made my night by reminding

1122
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 4: me of that. But I'll never forget where I was

1123
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 4: when Mike Tyson knocked out Buster Douglas. It would certainly

1124
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 4: be in the handful. It would be in the starter

1125
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 4: conversation of biggest upsets in sports history. You would be

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00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 4: hard pressed not to include when a sixteen seed University

1127
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 4: of Maryland Baltimore County knocked off the number one seed

1128
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 4: in the tournament Virginia in college basketball. It had never

1129
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 4: happened before. In fact, I think the sixteen seed had

1130
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 4: been zero in one thirty five in the history of

1131
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 4: the tournament. And what was this what five years ago?

1132
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 8: Six?

1133
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 2: But no seven years ago.

1134
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 4: I'm thinking and the sixteen beat a one, thinking of

1135
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 4: Kerrie Combs joining US earlier. The Michigan Wolverines opened the

1136
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 4: seven season against Appalachian State and app State was a

1137
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 4: thirty three point underdog and Michigan had paid them four

1138
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars. It was a bye game four hundred

1139
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 4: thousand to come to the Big House, and app State

1140
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 4: missed or app State blocked a Michigan field goal to

1141
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 4: try to win it with thirty thirty seven yards out

1142
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 4: in the final seconds and to it remains one of

1143
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 4: the biggest upsets in nineteen years later, one of the

1144
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 4: biggest upsets in college football. With the Olympic theme, I

1145
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 4: would think probably the top one would be the eighty

1146
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 4: Miracle on Ice grown men the Russians versus the kids

1147
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 4: the US team and do you believe in miracles?

1148
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: Yes?

1149
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 4: And having been hammered in the final exhibition what I

1150
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 4: think they lost ten to one on the final exhibition

1151
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 4: match against them prior to the Olympics. I can't wait

1152
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 4: to see the new Netflix documentary on the Miracle on Ice,

1153
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 4: by the way, but I think that would probably be one.

1154
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 4: I might go Buster Douglas two, and then the others

1155
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 4: would certainly fit into the conversation. If you were a

1156
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 4: soccer officionado, it would be hard and I think probably

1157
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 4: someone who appreciates an understand soccer's history more than I

1158
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 4: would argue this. As number one. Leicester City in what

1159
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 4: was at twenty fifteen, I think it was, they'd gone

1160
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty two years without winning a major title.

1161
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 4: They were five thousand to one odds to win the

1162
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 4: Premier League title, and they won the Premier League. That

1163
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 4: would be in the conversation. Heck, locally, we were talking

1164
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 4: about this earlier today. I would put the two thousand

1165
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 4: and two Roger Bacon boys basketball team beating Lebron James

1166
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 4: and Akron Saint Vincent Saint Mary's for the state championship

1167
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 4: game in Division three on my list. And heck, as

1168
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 4: I just said that I'm gonna do high school, then

1169
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 4: I would put no frame of reference other than the movie.

1170
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 4: I'd put Mile in high school beating Muncie Central and

1171
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 4: nineteen fifty four for the Indiana High school state championship.

1172
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 2: It must have been big. They made a movie out

1173
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: of it.

1174
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 4: I think those would be the ones I would entertain

1175
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 4: you know, you would have the Giants over the Patriots

1176
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 4: in Super Bowl XLII two thousand and seven.

1177
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 2: That was about a thirteen point spa.

1178
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 4: Oh, I know one now this would be this would

1179
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 4: probably be top ten and this would have been nineteen

1180
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 4: eighty two. And this was this was a like a

1181
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 4: Christmas or a New Year's tournament somewhere around the end

1182
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 4: of the year, and number one ranked Virginia, the Virginia Cavaliers,

1183
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 4: coached by Terry Holland and led by the consensus player

1184
01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 4: of the Year Ralph Sampson, played in a tournament INAII

1185
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 4: in Hawaii, and they were beaten by Division two Shamanad

1186
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 4: the Silver Swords. Why I remember Shamanad's nickname this many

1187
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 4: late years later, I'm gonna go with Silver Swords, the

1188
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 4: Shamanad Silver Swords. Division two stunned the number one team

1189
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 4: in Division one, led by the consensus player of the

1190
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 4: Year All American, Ralph Samson. That would be on the

1191
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 4: list one more lesser extent because I was there. It

1192
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 4: was an eight seed, so not a great upset, but

1193
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 4: an eight seed beat a one seed for the national championship.

1194
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 4: In college basketball, Villanova stunned Georgetown played the perfect game

1195
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 4: at Ropperina. I was there with my dad in nineteen

1196
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 4: eighty four. That make the conversation. I don't know that

1197
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 4: to make a top ten, but all of those came

1198
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 4: to mind earlier today on the anniversary of Mike Tyson,

1199
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 4: and I went back and I watched the deciding round

1200
01:01:55,120 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 4: today and the uppercut from Buster Douglas, the connection with

1201
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 4: Mike Tyson and then the follow up that knocked him down,

1202
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 4: and just the fumbling look on Tyson's face as he's

1203
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 4: grabbing for the rope to try to pull himself up.

1204
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: The man who.

1205
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,479
Speaker 4: Hadn't been to that point Invincible thirty seven and zero

1206
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,919
Speaker 4: and just treated fearing people knocked out on this date,

1207
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety. All right, we'll head down the stretch close

1208
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 4: out the seven o'clock hour of got to Scott Springer

1209
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,919
Speaker 4: checking in from Manhattan in the eight o'clock hour, and

1210
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 4: uh more to get two. Thanks for being here tonight,

1211
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 4: we're rolling rn L Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey

1212
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 4: Chevrolet seven hundred WLW. Did you know the Reds are

1213
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 4: starting a brass band?

1214
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 2: Have you seen this? Fifteen of twenty five?

1215
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 4: You have to be available for fifteen of the twenty

1216
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 4: five scheduled Friday and Saturday games. The band will play

1217
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 4: all Friday and Saturday home games during the twenty twenty

1218
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 4: sixth season. They were taking applications. The deadline has passed.

1219
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 4: You get paid per rehearsal and game and more perks

1220
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 4: according to what I was looking at. The instrumentation includes

1221
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 4: alto tenor bari. Is it Barie Sachs? I believe I'm

1222
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 4: not in museum, two trumpets, two trombones, a suzophone, snare,

1223
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 4: quints and bass. Twenty five Friday and Saturday games the

1224
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 4: brass band at Great American Ballpark.

1225
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 2: Details to follow.

1226
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 4: Remember old school, I remember we did a topic got

1227
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 4: him years ago when he passed away. But back in

1228
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 4: the day at Crosley Field before my time, the Reds

1229
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 4: had an organist named Ronnie Dale and played as the

1230
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 4: organist a Crossley for fourteen years and did the first charge,

1231
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 4: charge and play the ham and organ If I remember,

1232
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 4: there you go. So a brass band coming a Great

1233
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 4: American Ballpark in twenty twenty six Northern Kentucky to close

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01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 4: the hour.

1235
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: Keith, what's up Gray?

1236
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 8: He's talking about the great nest upsets you missed once?

1237
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 5: You're be in the top five.

1238
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you sent me five.

1239
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 6: Kentucky Walkouts beat Indiana undefeated team.

1240
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 5: Remember, oh they broke his arm the game four couldn't play.

1241
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 4: Oh, yes, yes, that would have been Joe B. Hall

1242
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 4: versus the General Bob Knight.

1243
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 8: Right.

1244
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 9: Yep, they beat him, I think by three points in Dayton, Ohio.

1245
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 4: I am putting that one on the list. Keith, you're

1246
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 4: a good man. Thanks for listening.

1247
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 5: Okay, thank you, buddy to do work.

1248
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 2: Thank you. It's very kind.

1249
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 4: If you all want a great way to in the

1250
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 4: r with very nice words in a compliment, thank you,

1251
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 4: Fields Yate to close the hour. Field Yates of ESPN,

1252
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 4: one of many who does a mock draft, has the

1253
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 4: following as of today. The Bengals at number ten, number ten,

1254
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 4: taking Miami edge rusher Ruben Bain Junior. The Las Vegas

1255
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 4: Raiders take the IU quarterback for Nando Mendoza. The Jets

1256
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 4: take Rvel Reese, the edge rusher from Ohio State. Caleb

1257
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 4: Downs goes number five to the Giants. That's as high

1258
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 4: as I've seen him in mock drafts. The Browns take

1259
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 4: the offensive lineman out of Utah. The Kansas City Chiefs

1260
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 4: take Jeremiah Love, the running back out of Notre Dame,

1261
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 4: and the Bengals at ten take Ruben Bain Junior. According

1262
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 4: to Field Yates, he writes, the Bengals are desperate for

1263
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 4: defensive help across the board, but it's hard to achieve

1264
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 4: much in the NFL without a force full pass rush.

1265
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 4: They swung big last year by taking Shamar Stewart, who

1266
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 4: had only four and a half sacks in three college seasons,

1267
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 4: but he had athletic upside. Stewart had just one sack

1268
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 4: across eight games as a rookie. Bain, he writes, is

1269
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 4: the exact opposite, with twenty and a half sacks in

1270
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 4: three seasons, but lacks a premier physical traits short arms.

1271
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,439
Speaker 4: They say he makes up for this with his more

1272
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 4: compact frame, with overpowering strength and quick hands. He was

1273
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,919
Speaker 4: the acc Defensive Player of the Year. All right, Well,

1274
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 4: that was a rapidly paced, fun action packed hour number two.

1275
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 4: What do you say you stick around? We'll head to Manhattan, Kansas.

1276
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 4: There's news on the UC basketball front, injury news not good.

1277
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 4: Scott Springer details that after a check on news, It's

1278
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 4: RNL Carrier Sports doc presented by Kelsey Chevalet seven hundred WLW.

1279
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 1: The following takes place between eight pm and nine pm.

1280
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 4: Man, are we cruising tonight? I feel like I just

1281
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 4: sat down. It was six o'clock. We've been here, there

1282
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 4: and everywhere. Love talk with David Saylor, the direct sure

1283
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 4: of athletics for the Miami RedHawks. Kerry Combs checked in

1284
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 4: from Ann Arbor. We got into some Reds conversation and more.

1285
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 4: Let's get into some talk about the UC Bearcats. They're

1286
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 4: in Manhattan, Kansas tonight take on the Kansas State Wildcats.

1287
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 4: Dan and Terry set it up bottom of the hour,

1288
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 4: but let's set the scene now with a man on

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Speaker 4: the scene at Brambleedge Coliseum. We welcome in from the Inquirer,

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Speaker 4: Scott Springer. How are you? How is Manhattan today?

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Speaker 9: Oh? The sun was out. It was seventy something yesterday,

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Speaker 9: I believe, but I didn't get in until late so

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Speaker 9: today maybe a high of fifty. But you know, here

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Speaker 9: we are Kansas State and the Cincinnati Bearcats, and both

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Speaker 9: teams are desperate for a big twelve win. And then

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Speaker 9: I get here and right away I'm told Miss off

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Speaker 9: At Tom's not going to play. So does that be

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Speaker 9: an in St lost. Not necessarily. They had West Virginia

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Speaker 9: beat without him, but you know how that one ended.

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Speaker 9: And you have two hot seat coaches pretty much, and

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Speaker 9: two teams that really need to get something going. And

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Speaker 9: I don't know what's going to happen tonight.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to say.

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Speaker 9: I did see JOm last night. I was happen to

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Speaker 9: stay at the same hotel. I don't always stay at

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Speaker 9: the same place, but they did last night. And notice

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01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 9: he was a little bit gamfe saw him again this morning.

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01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 9: He looked better, but when I got here they said

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Speaker 9: he was out. And so you're gonna need Bob and

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Speaker 9: Miller to step up, and Tyler McKinley and Hal Bean

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Speaker 9: Zealot and Dyalen Celstein is probably gonna have to play

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Speaker 9: out a position again. And the guards have to hit

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Speaker 9: some charts, and you know how that goes. When they

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Speaker 9: hit them, it's great. When they don't, that's a great.

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Speaker 4: Take me back to the twenty two point win over

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Speaker 4: you see up what stood out? How were they able

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Speaker 4: to win that game so handily?

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Speaker 9: Well, the big thing that stood out was they had

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Speaker 9: a big lead, I think twenty one at one point,

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Speaker 9: and then it got down to six, and so everybody

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01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 9: the natural reaction goes, oh yeah, I mean, I got

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Speaker 9: people tweeting at me.

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Speaker 5: Here we go again, all right, And then.

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Speaker 9: They pulled away. They took it back up to twenty

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Speaker 9: two and ended up winning by twenty.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty point one.

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Speaker 9: And you see, it's not a bad team, you know,

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Speaker 9: just five losses or I don't know if they they

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Speaker 9: played recently here, but they might. They might be up

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Speaker 9: to six, but still not bad. And that's what gets

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Speaker 9: you about this team is for ten that if they

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01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 9: look like they can play with anyone sometimes and then

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Speaker 9: for another ten minutes they look like they could lose

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Speaker 9: to anyone. And you know, Eastern Michigan sticks out or

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Speaker 9: that's just a terrible, terrible loss on your resume. And

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Speaker 9: but Iowa State number two in the nation, a lot

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Speaker 9: of people can't beat them. So and you had a

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Speaker 9: ten point lead against Houston at home, but you didn't

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Speaker 9: finish off. And that's been the theme. You got to

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Speaker 9: finish games. They haven't and until they do, things are

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Speaker 9: going to be uneasy.

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Speaker 4: Let's say Kansas State has been dealing with some chaos.

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Speaker 4: They're one in nine in the conference. Tell bearcat fans.

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Speaker 4: Something they need to know about this team tonight.

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Speaker 9: Well, they're desperate, and if you're desperate and you're at home,

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Speaker 9: you're still playing some pride. And I don't know what

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Speaker 9: kind of crowd they're gonna have tonight. I mean, right

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Speaker 9: now I'm looking at eighty forty five people plus the band.

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Speaker 9: But I know they typically they've listed you know, eight

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Speaker 9: to nine thousand. It seems, you know, a little bit

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Speaker 9: over twelve. They haven't had any sellouts on the whole.

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Speaker 9: Cincinnati's drawn more than Kansas stayed at home, but they

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Speaker 9: have had crowds here. The biggest crowd of lead was

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Speaker 9: against CYU about a month ago. Eleven thousand posts showed

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01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 9: up for that. But yeah, yeah, Jerome Tang there, they're

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01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 9: a little prustrated with him. A couple of things to

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01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 9: know that they have played some decent boldy TCUs not

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01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 9: a bad team. They had an eighteen point lead on

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Speaker 9: them in Fort Worth and ended up losing by two,

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01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 9: So kind of the same thing you've seen with U. See,

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01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 9: you know, leads and then they didn't finish.

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Speaker 5: But TJ.

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Speaker 9: Haderty the Guard had thirty points in that game. A

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Speaker 9: familiar local named Nate Johnson played on Lakota East. I

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01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 9: got to see him when he played there, and he

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01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 9: transferred from Macrons. So he's on this team tonight, playing

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Speaker 9: against the hometown team.

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Speaker 2: By the way.

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Speaker 4: Side note, and I know you'll be there for the

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Speaker 4: Big twelve tournament in March. I think that announcement today

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Speaker 4: of a led floor they're going to play on is

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Speaker 4: incredibly cool.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, that's a new technology. I saw it, and

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01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 9: so I mean actually during games, during timeouts, they're going

1375
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 9: to be able to use that and play games with

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Speaker 9: the fans and stuff. So it'd be interesting to see.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 9: Of course, if you have a regular media saint, you're

1379
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 9: up in the raptors, so you're going to need like

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01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 9: super binoculars or something. But they do let some of

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01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 9: us at the short side. For the Cincinnati games. It's

1382
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Speaker 9: usually two media members per game, so I've been able

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01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 9: to be down there for the UC games. But yeah,

1384
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 9: I mean it's you've got to get Brett or Mark credit.

1385
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 9: He's always trying, always trying to get more attention and

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01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 9: things like that, and so it looks pretty cool. It's

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01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,799
Speaker 9: going to be for the women's and the men's games,

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01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 9: and so if you're fan, you know that that's pretty

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01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 9: nice and that might be better than what they had

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Speaker 9: last year, and that that that floor made people.

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Speaker 2: Did he last year?

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Speaker 4: No doubt, no doubt. We're talking Bearcats hoops? Did I

1393
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 4: was Scott Springer from the acquire since a dot com

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Speaker 4: let me toss in a couple of football notes. Three

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01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 4: bear Cats today we find out headed to the Combine.

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Speaker 4: But I'm also curious of one seeming omission that Cyrus

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01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 4: Allen isn't going. Update the Bearcat fans and all the

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Speaker 4: Combine news today.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Jake Golde, Dante Corleone going and Cyrus Allen not going,

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Speaker 9: and then humah.

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Speaker 2: Def Cogwell's going.

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Speaker 9: So three three and but you know Cogwell's going to

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01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 9: go because he's six y five and and just has

1404
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 9: freaked his skills. And actually wrote in the preseason three view,

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01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 9: anyone that bothered to read that, I said, these are

1406
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 9: the guys that are going to get drafted because you

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01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 9: can't teach what he has, that vertical leap in that

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01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 9: size and the upside and all that. On the other hand,

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01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 9: Cyrus Allen was your most productive and reliable receiver, had

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01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 9: a great Senior Bowl. So anyone that takes a look

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01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 9: at him, is going to get get a steal and,

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01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 9: as he says, he's always opened. So you like a

1413
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 9: guy like that, and then you know Corleone is who

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01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 9: he is. I think Jake Golding in my opinion, Golday

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01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 9: will be the first one tick as long as he's healthy.

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01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 9: Had a calder he had to deal with at the

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01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 9: end of the season there. But uh, you know a

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01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 9: six four two forty guy that can run like that

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01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 9: and chase down people, and uh, my guess would be

1420
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 9: he's the first. But I'm far from an NFL draft expert.

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01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:35,759
Speaker 5: Mel Kiper.

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Speaker 9: The last time I talked to Melchicker was I think

1423
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 9: that booked him on Collins were Sold Sports Talk throw

1424
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 9: years ago and he told me how busy.

1425
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 2: He was beautiful.

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Speaker 4: One more football note I'm thinking about it impressions of

1427
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 4: the new defensive coordinator Nate Woodie and what tweaks he

1428
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 4: might try to bring to this defense.

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01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 9: Well, obviously the three three five is in Cyanara, so

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01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 9: I don't think anyone's disappointed about that. You know, on

1431
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 9: Saderfield even mentioned yesterday in the press conference, it's like

1432
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 9: you know you have Russ three, you drop eight, you

1433
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 9: drop an eight, you gotta have more interceptions and then

1434
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 9: only had two. And then he said, well, and they

1435
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 9: dropped a lot of it. You know, sometimes that's why

1436
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 9: guys become defensive backs because of that. But yeah, it

1437
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 9: looks to me, you know, maybe more aggressive. Nate Woody

1438
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 9: is the guy that worked for Saderfield twenty thirteen to

1439
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 9: twenty eighteen and Apple Action State and then he went

1440
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 9: on to Georgia Tech and he's done this defense for

1441
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 9: some time. And Scott called him the architect of the defense.

1442
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,839
Speaker 9: And he mentioned that like the Texas Tech current defensive

1443
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 9: coordinator learned it from Nate Woodie. So the coaching angle,

1444
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 9: he hasn't forgotten anything. Of course, you need players. You know.

1445
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 9: Texa Tech has a few more oil dollars in Cincinnati,

1446
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:54,719
Speaker 9: so that helps matter. So in this game basketball football anymore,

1447
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 9: all I'm hearing from the national experts is if you

1448
01:14:58,320 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 9: got to lose, you get a chance.

1449
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 4: You Scott Springer from the Inquirer, tell them what they

1450
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 4: can read, how they can read it, and follow along.

1451
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 9: Well, I'll be on the Springer Sports on X tonight.

1452
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 9: That's my same Instagram I I you can see where

1453
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 9: I had my barbecue yesterday if you're really that interested

1454
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 9: in them on the instagram. Uh, and then Cincinnati dot

1455
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 9: com we have the right after the game. We try

1456
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 9: to get something out a SAP and then we go

1457
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 9: sprust it up with quotes and videos and all sorts.

1458
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 2: Of things, and so you.

1459
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 9: Know, life is easier when they win. We'll see what happens.

1460
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 9: But either way, it's been entertaining.

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01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 9: If you can't miss West on the radio right after

1463
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 9: the game, you don't know what you're gonna get. So uh,

1464
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 9: stay tuned, get the seat belt on, and uh, we'll

1465
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 9: see what happens. Minus missed off with Tom, but it's doable.

1466
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 9: Everyone has injuries. No one likes excuses, but you know,

1467
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 9: missing the seventeen starting center that contains the game, it

1468
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 9: does put you behind eight ball a little bit.

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01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 2: Thanks sir, appreciate time. Always good catching up.

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Speaker 5: All right, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: He is Scott Springer, the Inquirer SINCI dot Com on

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01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 4: the scene Bramlage Coliseum, Dan and Terry with pregame coverage

1473
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 4: coming up bottom of the air. Bearcat's trying to do

1474
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 4: something they haven't done this year, win away from fifth third.

1475
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 4: They're oh and six and big twelve road games, they're

1476
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 4: oh and three and neutral site games, so oh to

1477
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 4: nine away from fifth third. That Kansas State club is

1478
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 4: one and nine in conference after their worst big twelve

1479
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 4: start ever, you see as a two and a half

1480
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 4: point road favorite, at least began the day as a

1481
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 4: two and a half point road favorite. The Wildcats have

1482
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 4: dropped four straight. Their graduate assistant was suspended over the

1483
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 4: weekend after a domestic battery incident allegedly, and Kansas State

1484
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 4: comes in averaging they score it almost eighty two points

1485
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 4: a game, and you see he's giving up sixty seven,

1486
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 4: so something's got to give. We'll see pregame eight thirty

1487
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 4: tip just after nine o'clock. By the way, tomorrow night,

1488
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 4: six twenty, leading off the show, and if you haven't

1489
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 4: seen it, look for it. There is a new Bob

1490
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 4: Huggins documentary that is going to be out, I believe

1491
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:10,520
Speaker 4: at debuts in April. Tomorrow night at six twenty. Alan Hillsinger,

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01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 4: one of the individuals behind it all, will join me,

1493
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 4: and I've seen the trailer. It is a goose bump inducing.

1494
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 4: It is titled Beyond the Bench. Alan told me they've

1495
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 4: done over forty interviews with players and coaches, his hugs,

1496
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,799
Speaker 4: former players, other coaches, Bill selfs in it, Kenyan Martin's

1497
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 4: in it, Terry Nelson in it, on and on and on,

1498
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 4: Huggins of course, and it just the trailer itself looks

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01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 4: absolutely unbelievably cool. I can't wait to see it when

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Speaker 4: it comes out. Beyond the Bench. Will get more from

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Speaker 4: Alan when he joins me tomorrow night at eight twenty

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01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 4: or a six twenty, sorry, six to twenty on Sports Talk.

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01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 4: We'll head down the stretch. We've got hoops around the corner.

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01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 4: Couple of news and notes to squeeze in as we

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01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 4: roll with RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet

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01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 4: seven hundred. Well, hey, shout out to the local band

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01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 4: Mojo Rising. We saw them on Saturday night at Little

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01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 4: Miami Brewing. What a scene the place was jumping, and

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01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 4: I sent my guy Eric a text. They said, Hey,

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01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 4: I think we're coming by if there's any chance you

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01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 4: could save us a couple of seats, And they saved

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01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 4: us two prime spots for a place that was bumper

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01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 4: to bumper, elbow to elbow to watch them, and it

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01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 4: just they are really cool and fun and just a

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01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 4: kind band with a superb set list, and they dedicated

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01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 4: Bob O'Reilly my show open music and played it and

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01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 4: walked the place while playing it as the place went nuts.

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01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 2: They crushed it.

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01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,759
Speaker 4: It was great meeting the co owner of Little Miami

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01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 4: Brewing Company, Joe Brenner. We are big fans of Little

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01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 4: Miami Brewing and big fans of Mojo Rising. We just

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01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 4: had a great time on Saturday night. Wanted to send

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01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 4: a shout out to them, and then we took care

1524
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 4: of not to care like we had to. I should

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01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 4: don't tell Telly I said it that way. We celebrated

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01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 4: Valentine's Day on Monday night. See I'm smart. I do

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01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 4: it in advance so I don't have to worry about

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01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 4: thinking about it. Actually, there was no show on Monday night,

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01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 4: so we had dinner at Carlo and Johnny and just

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01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 4: fabulous early Valentine's there. By the way, they have a

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01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 4: surf and turf special right now. I think they run

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01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 4: it through this week where you can get like a

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01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 4: six ounce ful at Mignon and a five ounce lobster

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01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 4: tale and the Freddie salad and asparagus for seventy dollars.

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01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 4: A person and his killer just a great meal and

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01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 4: it was a great scene the GM Jordan Taylor so

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01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 4: happy for him. I think he's been with the Ruby

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01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 4: Company for eighteen years and over a year now at

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01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 4: Carlo and Johnny. And a big shout out to Hannah

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01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 4: who took care of us, and props to Liam.

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01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:49,520
Speaker 2: It is always such.

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01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 4: A first class, personal touch kind of experience there. And

1543
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 4: thank you to Jeff and Brittany and the whole group.

1544
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 4: What a way to celebrate Valentine's Day on Monday night

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01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 4: at carl and Johnny.

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01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 2: So thank you.

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01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 4: And final note of the night, I would love to

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01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 4: see the Reds try something the White Sox are doing

1549
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 4: this year. What something the Brewers pulled off last season

1550
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 4: an alumni home run derby. Last year, the Brewers put

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01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 4: together two teams and they squared off in July following

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01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 4: one of their games and the captains. Ryan Brown was

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01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 4: the captain of one team, Carlos Gomez the captain and

1554
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 4: the other. They drafted teams from the returning players from

1555
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 4: the past, Prince Fielder and Eric Thames and Casey McGee

1556
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 4: and Bill Hall, Reds Killer, Corey Hart and others. And

1557
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 4: Ryan Bron said of last year's attempt at he said,

1558
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 4: it was an incredible experience for all of us. The

1559
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,640
Speaker 4: place was packed, the energy was incredible. It felt like

1560
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 4: a big deal of the community. I'd be happy to

1561
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 4: be a part of it again. And the White Sox

1562
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,679
Speaker 4: said we're gonna do that this year. July eleventh, after

1563
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 4: one of their games, they're doing an alumni home run derby.

1564
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 4: Can you imagine if the Reds did something like this.

1565
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 4: They're so good at these things anyway. But you could

1566
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 4: have like Johnny Bench and Tony Press serve as the

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01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 4: honorary captains. You could from a potential group of Ken

1568
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 4: Griffy Junior comes back, and Adam Dunn and Joey Vado

1569
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 4: and Jay Bruce and Todd Frazier, Willie Mopania, Adam duval

1570
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 4: Aristides and Keno, maybe Scooter Gennet Janette bring them all back,

1571
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 4: and you could spell. You could sell how you could

1572
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 4: sell ticket packages out in the left field and right

1573
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 4: field home run sections and encourage fans to bring their

1574
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 4: myths to use after the regular game is played. You

1575
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 4: could put kids in the outfield to shag the fly balls,

1576
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 4: like to do with the All Star Game.

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01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 2: You could.

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01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 4: Heck, you could auction off each of the bats used

1579
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 4: by the players. They could sign the bats, auction those

1580
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 4: babies off, with the proceeds going to the Reds Community Fund.

1581
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 4: And while all this is going on, they could put

1582
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 4: up on the like the big screen, like classic home

1583
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 4: runs from each of the guys back when they were

1584
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 4: playing for the ring. Tell me you wouldn't stick around

1585
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:56,759
Speaker 4: after a Reds game and watch an alumni home run derby.

1586
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 4: I love that idea by the White Sox and the Brewers.

1587
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 4: I went back and watched some of the Brewers action,

1588
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 4: and the place was just It was for the people

1589
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 4: who and hardly anybody left the regular game and stuck

1590
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 4: around for the home run derby, and the place was

1591
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 4: going bonkers, and the players had a blast with it.

1592
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 4: I'd love to see them roll right over right. Two

1593
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 4: notes on this date to wrap it up. This date,

1594
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 4: nineteen thirty six. I knew that that class included Ty

1595
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 4: Cobb and Babe Ruth.

1596
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 2: I didn't know this.

1597
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 4: Ty Cobb went into the Hall of Fame with more

1598
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 4: votes than Babe Ruth in that class, which you wouldn't

1599
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 4: think because Ty Cobb was so despised by so many people,

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01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 4: including writers, and Babe Ruth was loved by everybody. Ty

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01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:46,839
Speaker 4: Cobb got seven more votes than Babe Ruth in that class. Somehow,

1602
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 4: eleven writers did not vote for Babe and four didn't

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01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,719
Speaker 4: vote for Cobb. Can you imagine looking at a ballot

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01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 4: in nineteen thirty six and saying, I don't think I'm

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01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 4: going to vote for Babe Ruth and more. On this date,

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01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 4: nineteen sixty six, the say hey kid, Willie Mays became

1607
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,719
Speaker 4: the highest paid player in baseball. Get this, He signed

1608
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 4: a two year deal with the San Francisco Giants. You're

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01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 4: ready one hundred and thirty thousand dollars a year to

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01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 4: become the highest paid player in Major League baseball. I

1611
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 4: wish I had more time. I do not, Alan Hill Singer,

1612
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 4: Tomorrow night, six point twenty on the New Huggins documentary,

1613
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 4: we'll talk some more Reds baseball.

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01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 2: I like the fact. You know what I think we'll

1615
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 2: do tomorrow night.

1616
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 4: Tino has talked about this, the search to figure out

1617
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 4: who's going to bat second, Who's going to bat after

1618
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 4: TJ and before Ellie and after Ela. It's gonna be

1619
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 4: Surez who bats second on this team. I think we'll

1620
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 4: spend a little bit of time on that. Got some

1621
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 4: other fun things percolating. Not ready to discuss or divulge publicly, but.

1622
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 2: I can't wait. We'll do it six to eight tomorrow night.

1623
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 4: Thanks to Joe what L for producing, Thanks to you

1624
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 4: for taking a listen, stick around the news, and then

1625
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 4: Bearcat hoops play here. Sorry now Carrier Sports Talk presented

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01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 4: by Kelsey Chevallet seven hundred ww