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Speaker 2: So as you walked into the.

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Speaker 3: As you walked into the studio, David Sennekin said to

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Speaker 2: Face, his countenance was not that of chagrin.

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Speaker 3: It was that of like a mystifying confusion, simply because

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Speaker 3: David and I are about seven to the club, and

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Speaker 3: I was thinking, I mean, one of the most I mean,

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Speaker 2: I always love that.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to be looking to see what happens

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Speaker 3: This would be FIVA, Fairness and box act. I apologize

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Speaker 3: for being dumb on this. I know your son Jackson

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Speaker 3: you alum? I am an iay, you're an IU alum

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Speaker 3: from Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: That is correct.

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Speaker 3: So why didn't you go to Marquette when Al McGuire

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Speaker 4: Fair question wanted to get out of Dodge. Wanted to

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Speaker 4: remember what Al McGuire coached there, Dude, that was my

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Speaker 4: growing the nineteen seventy seven championship. My mom my mom

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Speaker 2: Wow. Remember their jerseys.

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Speaker 3: They were like the first that wore the jerseys that

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Speaker 4: McGuire was bomb. He let his players design the jerseys.

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Speaker 4: Remember bo Ellis from back in the day. Bo Ellis

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Speaker 2: Then Dwayne Wade hated them and they changed. They always

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you being and I okay, you're an IU alum.

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Speaker 4: So Jackson just graduated a few weeks ago, but younger

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Speaker 4: sister Ali is a junior. Hey just took her to

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Speaker 4: of them through the who's your school?

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Speaker 3: And she just beats Spolster twice in seventy two hours

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Speaker 4: I got buddies in Indianapolis that they're making the motor

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Speaker 4: I just I foresee Indiana, Miami in Miami for Menda

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Speaker 3: So you're acting like Leabelle and Baron pays minimum wage. Wait,

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Speaker 4: There's no question but also, I'm putting three kids through college,

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Speaker 2: When Wendy ask Abbott for the press pass, what day

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Speaker 3: As an Indiana University grad is winning the FBS national

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Speaker 2: It's as big as it gets. Are you kidding? Bigger

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean green Bay has the audacity of

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Speaker 2: Of course they are, and of course they are.

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Speaker 4: But as a fan, my expectations are are moved, are

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Speaker 4: playing in the National Championship. I've been waiting twenty five

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Speaker 3: by NFL with the Packers and Bears In the next segment.

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Speaker 2: Were you a fan?

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Speaker 4: Hey, I was a fan my freshman year when Lee

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Speaker 3: Uh is our the Green Bay Packers going to win

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Speaker 2: Alight the head Cheese.

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Speaker 3: Your football team is going to win Saturday night, isn't it?

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Speaker 4: And you had mic of that game. No wait, yeah,

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Speaker 2: It was the next week after that first matchup.

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Speaker 2: It gets your attention.

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Speaker 3: But I just love Lens getting down the field. Now

442
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Speaker 3: they drunk the post with him. So I just this

443
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Speaker 3: deep game the Bears can have, I think is to

444
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Speaker 3: their advantage.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not going to disagree.

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Speaker 4: I'll take the Packers deep game against their secondary ahead

447
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Speaker 4: of the Bears. I'll also say, dude, it's going to

448
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Speaker 4: be snowy twenty five mile an hour wins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that favor is a passing game.

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Speaker 4: All the wind does it, but I don't think favors

451
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Speaker 4: a deep passing game necessarily. I don't think Caleb's going

452
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Speaker 4: to enjoy playing in those conditions. He's a you know,

453
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Speaker 4: Southern California guy ready that I just don't know know

454
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Speaker 4: that the Bears are going to be ready for what

455
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Speaker 4: this game is and they don't have the Yes, they

456
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Speaker 4: got an offensive line with a lot of playoff experience.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's a great point, but a lot of play

458
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Speaker 3: just like the way the Packers were ready for the

459
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Speaker 3: playoff game last year.

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Speaker 2: I always loved them, a lot of newbies at Lincoln. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, we got dropped in the very first play of

462
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Speaker 4: the game on the kickoff return where they fumbled it

463
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Speaker 4: and they didn't call the fumble and it all went

464
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Speaker 4: downhill from there.

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Speaker 3: Brandon Boston, who knew kidding me always the time, I'm

466
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Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what Jorda Love does in this game.

467
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Speaker 3: I think people are sleeping a bit on Jorda Love

468
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Speaker 3: in this offense. Jacob's now has gotten healthier. With that

469
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Speaker 3: he Christian Watson available, He's the playoff game. He's become

470
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Speaker 3: the bomb wasn't last year because he got hurt in

471
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Speaker 3: week eighteen. His route running is really I've been told this.

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Speaker 3: His route running is really, really sharp. He's got a

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Speaker 3: full speed top of the route, shoulders shake, got no

474
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Speaker 3: idea left or right. He's just gotten really good at that.

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Speaker 4: He's got the size, he's got the speed, he's got

476
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Speaker 4: the hands, the route running, he's the full package. He

477
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Speaker 4: just has to stay healthy, which has been the issue

478
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Speaker 4: with him. But when he is available, he is a

479
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Speaker 4: field tilter and he is the key to this offense.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think Weenbakers scored some points. I just

481
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Speaker 4: think weather is going to be a factor in this game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not not that Wheeling is a you know,

483
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Speaker 3: a major factory or anything.

484
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Speaker 2: He's a bunter.

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Speaker 3: But punter's mattering games like this man, lower scoring games,

486
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Speaker 3: weather conditions, I mean Wheeling with all these touchbacks and everything,

487
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Speaker 3: Holy cow, I mean the special teams for the Green

488
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Speaker 3: Bay Packers realize the problems that they had had in

489
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Speaker 3: certain areas until starting to get ready for Border Battle

490
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Speaker 3: one three one Now, I mean Visa Fairness and Special

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Speaker 3: Teams Act.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: McManus left. He was hurt and he left the season

494
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Speaker 3: for a while.

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Speaker 4: Then he came back. It's been pretty good since he

496
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Speaker 4: came back. Yeah, he's terrible on kickoffs. He doesn't get

497
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Speaker 4: it right now, he doesn't. Why do they use him.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they I don't think Wheeling can do it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they have another guy. Wheeland led the

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Speaker 4: league in punting average fifty one points something. He's been spectacular.

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Speaker 4: He is a I mean Danielheeling was the best punter

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Speaker 4: in football this season.

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Speaker 3: Well, now there's nobody is the best punter in football

504
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Speaker 3: with eight touchbacks.

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's the back.

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Speaker 3: He had eight touchbacks this year. Are you talking about

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Speaker 3: on punts?

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Speaker 2: On punts? Well, his net he was fourth in the

509
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Speaker 2: league in nets.

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Speaker 3: So no, he hasn't had a pump blocked in one

511
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Speaker 3: hundred and seventy at least in his whole career. So yeah,

512
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Speaker 3: he gets it off quickly. He's a good directional punter.

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Speaker 3: But when you got a eight pence.

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Speaker 4: Guys back we've had, we've we've pinned guys back all season.

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Speaker 4: Daniel Wheeling has been one of our best players. Yes,

516
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Speaker 4: he has eight touchbacks. That surprises me. He has a

517
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Speaker 4: he has a metric. Well it's not a metric, it's

518
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Speaker 4: a stat, but like nobody ever goes with it. I

519
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Speaker 4: think inside the five punts, inside the ten or inside

520
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Speaker 4: the five, he might be historically good at that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: all I know is there were three games this year

522
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Speaker 4: where Wheland never saw the field because the Packers didn't punt,

523
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Speaker 4: and they lost everyone and they lost all three. Great,

524
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Speaker 4: so Wheelan needs to be out there. They need to

525
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Speaker 4: punt to have a chance to win the game of

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Speaker 4: Let's think.

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Speaker 2: About what you just said.

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Speaker 3: I know, okay, now not the harshmallow, but just think

529
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Speaker 3: about the last time you saw K nine guy and

530
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Speaker 3: Carrington Valentine and high leverage situations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not good. Well that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Rough.

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Speaker 4: They benched Valentine in week seventeen and they put in, Yeah,

534
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Speaker 4: and they put in Nate Hobbs, then he gets ACL.

535
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Speaker 4: Then they bring in come All Had and then he

536
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Speaker 4: tears his ACL. Yeah, I mean they don't want Valentine

537
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Speaker 4: out there. He's he's a good cover, he's decent cover guy,

538
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Speaker 4: but he cannot tackle. That's why they brought Trevon Diggs over.

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Speaker 4: That's why bow Melton was playing cornerback and they just

540
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Speaker 4: they're very thin at that position. Nixon has struggled against

541
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Speaker 4: the Bears this year. He's had some good games. The

542
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Speaker 4: two games against the Bears, he has not been good.

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Speaker 4: He's a key player for Green Bay Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, you know what what's a shame here is,

545
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Speaker 3: Well you got Melton down to now but well, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm being serious. You're looking fun of Considered one of

547
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Speaker 3: the better special teams guys in the NFL.

548
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Speaker 4: We're getting one back, Nick Neeman, a really good special

549
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 4: team's got a linebacker all season.

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Speaker 2: He's back Saturday. That's big too.

551
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Speaker 3: But see they la floor it's risky to use K

552
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Speaker 3: nine on kick returns. He's unbelievable on kick returns. Okay,

553
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Speaker 3: Keishawn Nixon is one of the best kick returns this

554
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Speaker 3: side of kick returners this side of Cordero Patterson back

555
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Speaker 3: when he was playing. But you can't use K nine

556
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Speaker 3: guy on kick returns because if he gets nicked up there, right.

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Speaker 2: Well then he got some depth terrorism, right.

558
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Speaker 4: And the guy that have been using the rookie receiver

559
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Speaker 4: save On Williams, is one of the six guys that

560
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Speaker 4: doesn't matter that tour that he's out for the year.

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Speaker 4: Tv I are as well. They don't have return guys.

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Speaker 4: You know the Immanuel Wilson might be the kickoff.

563
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Speaker 3: Return Yeah, yeah, he was back there in the Vikings game.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, I think you win the game. And

565
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Speaker 3: so do you.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this? I just say a little one little

567
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Speaker 2: uh pipping for me and.

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Speaker 3: Blake Moore, but you got to you got a tuggle

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Speaker 3: war thing and Hudson or something.

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Speaker 4: No, but because the game is Saturday night, Packer Preview

571
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Speaker 4: will be the review edition right Sunday morning, we're going

572
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Speaker 4: to talk about the game.

573
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Speaker 3: Who needs the podcast, So we're going to do a

574
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Speaker 3: Packer Preview podcast on Friday morning. Oh week, it'll be

575
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Speaker 3: a little preview of the big game Saturday on the

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Speaker 3: iheard what time?

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Speaker 2: Uh. It'll be posted by mid morning on Friday.

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Speaker 3: Here's the deal. I got a Friday football feast in

579
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Speaker 3: the studio. Paul Charchie is in town. There was a

580
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Speaker 3: surprise birthday party for me last night. He and Roxy

581
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Speaker 3: flew in for that. Stick around to Friday or yeah, Friday,

582
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Speaker 3: so he's going to be in studio for a little bit.

583
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Speaker 3: Young Alec will be here. So we've got a feast here.

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Speaker 2: Awesome.

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Speaker 3: Text me please if you can remember, or put it

586
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Speaker 3: on the tweet machine, which I look at more when

587
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Speaker 3: I'm in the studio than I do out side of

588
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Speaker 3: the studio, so we can pop it for you. Appreciate

589
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: that Bear's Twitter is bugging Nordo. Now, Nordo's the doom

590
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Speaker 3: scroller in the Covenant, and we are glad he is

591
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: because he finds things I miss.

592
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Speaker 2: Part of it.

593
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Speaker 3: What's bugging him is Bears fans being allegedly being extremely

594
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Speaker 3: obnoxious on social media sites. Do you feel the same

595
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 3: way that Bears fans are being, like like they're acting

596
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 3: like being good? Is Maybe it's just with the Packers

597
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 3: because they've been beaten down for so many years through

598
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Speaker 3: the Aaron Rodgers years, or maybe Nordo can.

599
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Speaker 2: Speak for himself with the dooms wrong Weeken.

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Speaker 3: What's getting under the skin of two of my dogs

601
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Speaker 3: with Bears fans.

602
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Speaker 2: They're the worst.

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Speaker 4: Bears fans are the absolute worst. I'm a TikTok guy,

604
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Speaker 4: and my TikTok feed is just overrun by Bears fans

605
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 4: right now, and it's just it's so nauseating to listen

606
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 4: to these guys. They are they have no concept of reality.

607
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Speaker 4: And that's why I don't care if Green Bay wins

608
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Speaker 4: Saturday night. I want to go to Seattle and beat

609
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Speaker 4: that team, but just beat Chicago so I don't have

610
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 4: to deal with an off season of Bears fans beginning

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Speaker 4: with mister Lavelle you Neil the third, who's a card

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00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 4: carrying member of maxist Bears fans on social media.

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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't deal with that.

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Speaker 3: More than social media. He will send Nordo and I

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Speaker 3: a a video of him, like think Mike Reiko, old

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Speaker 3: Chicago columnist. You know that show they had the sports

617
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Speaker 3: reporters or whatever. Everybody had cigars. It was the og

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Speaker 3: show of the like people sitting down talking sports on

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Speaker 3: TV and original and and uh, he'll be smoking a

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Speaker 3: cigar like the old school columnists from the Chicago tribuner

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Speaker 3: sometimes and I don't even know what he says to us.

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Speaker 2: I didn't watch the last one. The first one bugged

623
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Speaker 2: me so much.

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Speaker 3: That he'll send us right after a Bears win like

625
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: they're like puff in them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was Kings of the North. There are Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was just a ox. No, it's the thing for me.

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Speaker 5: So as a Vikings fan, I got family who are

629
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Speaker 5: pack fans. We joke about you being the saltan, the smug,

630
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 5: all those things. I want my team to beat the

631
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 5: Packers every single time. That is my chief rivalry. But

632
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Speaker 5: just over the course of time, Packers fans, the ups

633
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 5: and downs, the bleep talking, it's all good. There's mostly

634
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 5: rational conversation that stems from that rivalry. Whether it's the

635
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Speaker 5: Kitties fans with the paper bags over their heads for

636
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Speaker 5: twenty five years and now suddenly they're a dynasty last

637
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Speaker 5: year yeah, and now the Bears fans for the last

638
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Speaker 5: four months. It disgusts me. It is absolutely unacceptable and

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00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 5: so therefore, as crazy as this sounds, your squad shoving

640
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 5: it right down their throats on Saturday evening and ending

641
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 5: their season and they can put it all back together again.

642
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 5: All respect to Ben Johnson and everybody involved. And Caleb's

643
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 5: not as bad as maybe I thought he was going

644
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 5: to be after seeing him last year. And we can

645
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 5: renew all those talkers at the debate at the State Fair.

646
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Speaker 5: I want the Bears to lose so badly on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Thinking about what you're saying, Yeah, I mean that's like

648
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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving Day looking at the table, deciding between what do

649
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Speaker 3: I want to eat first, the gross gizzard or the

650
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Speaker 3: cut up turkey beat.

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Speaker 5: Well, in this case, I'll the beak. If I'm taking that, Gazers,

652
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 5: I'm taking the gizzard. The Bears are the beak, and

653
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 5: I want them to be silenced on Saturday night. I

654
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Speaker 5: can't wait for Jordan. I no, I'm not going to

655
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Speaker 5: go that far.

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Speaker 2: That's too much. Never mind, never mind. I just I

657
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Speaker 2: hope the Bears lose.

658
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Speaker 3: Malik willis what got into him this year and has

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Speaker 3: he become legit a quality quarterback hundred percent?

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Speaker 2: He will start. I think he'll start for somebody.

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Speaker 3: Ill get like thirty or forty million or something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny because I thought before he got before

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Speaker 4: that last game, I thought he would get like a

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Speaker 4: ten to twelve million dollar deal to compete with somebody.

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Speaker 4: But after that game against Baltimore, I do think he

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Speaker 4: has a chance to get Darnald type money. If you're

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Speaker 4: Arizona Miami.

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Speaker 2: One hundred million dollar deal. Well, I don't know that

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Speaker 2: he gets that much.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's three years for eighty but I think he's

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Speaker 4: going to get significant money. What then, he's been training

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Speaker 4: under not only Mount Lafloor, but Tom Clement, a great

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Speaker 4: quarterback coach. Sean Manyon. He talked to a great quarterback

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Speaker 4: coach in the future. He's learned how to play in

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Speaker 4: every time. He came back to the Rogers right in

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Speaker 4: stage and he stayed. But he retired after this year.

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Speaker 4: He's done, and this one happening now, correct. I think

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Speaker 4: Tom clements super well respected. Remember if he's here this year,

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Speaker 4: if he quit after last year, manons in the in

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Speaker 4: the mix now too, Sean Manyon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. As a coach, Yeah, they love him. They think

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Speaker 2: he's a huge future as a quarterback. He does. Holy cow. Oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I don't want to forget this.

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Speaker 3: Somebody told me this a couple of days ago talking

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Speaker 3: about opening job openings around the NFL, and I didn't

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Speaker 3: see this one coming. Tell me if you've heard it

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Speaker 3: or read about it. Jeff Haffley. Hafley is is considered

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Speaker 3: head coaching material.

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Speaker 2: In the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Did you know the defensive coordinator for the Packers, one

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Speaker 3: of my greatest actors, might get a job this year.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to lose Jeff Haffley. I love you.

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Speaker 3: There's somebody I know who hopes he does so he

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Speaker 3: can be on the staff.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: He was a leading contentant kidney with the Giants, like

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Speaker 4: he was being connected because yeah, that's the team that's

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Speaker 4: from New Jersey. The ownership went to BC, just like

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Speaker 4: where he coached.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 4: But now John Harbaugh's name is in the mixed. Mike

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Speaker 4: McCarthy is considered a favorite. I want teams to hands

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Speaker 4: off on Jeff Psky. I want him mating this defense

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Speaker 4: for a while. How healthy is your own line in

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Speaker 4: your defense?

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Speaker 2: I think Zach Thomas back Saturday night, he's our best lineman.

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Speaker 2: That's huge. He's just the last month or so.

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Speaker 4: Jenkins dead until next year, right, Jenkins dead and playing

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Speaker 4: for somebody else next year?

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Speaker 2: He's a free agent? Jay, Yeah, he's out? How yeah?

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Speaker 4: Dare you talk about Elton Jenkins? Just saying they're not

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Speaker 4: going to resign him. Gary's gonna be cut, Quay's probably

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Speaker 4: gonna be showing the door. There'll be some some changes.

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Speaker 4: They got guys to pay. Damn, Tucker Craft's got to

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Speaker 4: get paid because of.

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Speaker 2: What you paid the quarterback. So that, well, no, it's true.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's like I have nothing against Jordan Love

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Speaker 3: and I'm not hitting him with an eight Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: big box score bit that's gonna go. That didn't well,

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Speaker 3: no it didn't. It's quarters century later. It's till hear

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Speaker 3: about it. But it's that contracts. Eventually, if you try

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Speaker 3: to four to five the village, it ain't gonna be easy.

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Speaker 3: So that that was like the point I and everybody else.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you have to draft well obviously when you

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Speaker 4: have a fifty million dollar quarterback. But I saved this

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Speaker 4: stat because I knew you're gonna go to Love at

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Speaker 4: some point. Not really, well, I just thought you might,

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Speaker 4: because everybody does with me. It's like, you know, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not as predictable as you think. That's noon to three.

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Speaker 2: That might be true.

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Speaker 4: But if there's a stat for qb EPA per play

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Speaker 4: per quarter, So who are the best quarterbacks quarter by quarter.

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Speaker 2: Over the whole season.

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Speaker 3: If anybody's better than bow Nicks in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 3: I got to hear it.

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Speaker 2: This is this is all four quarters.

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Speaker 4: Okay, might be Kaal Drake May's number one point three one,

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Speaker 4: Jordia Love's number two point two nine, Party three, Stafford four,

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen five, and Love is the only one who's

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Speaker 4: top five in each of the four quarters. Right, So

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of slant. I got a lot of

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Speaker 4: slander for Jorda Love. He needs to win a big game.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Just win a game that's significant, right, And

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Speaker 2: this is like Saturday night. He's won a playoff game.

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Speaker 2: It's his thirty years Star show ran for cat.

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Speaker 4: You're right, he has to win another game. He's throwing

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Speaker 4: five picks in two playoff lots were starting.

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Speaker 2: I'm starting to get frustrated. Why up again? Why why

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Speaker 2: are you frustrated?

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Speaker 5: The cool thing good times bad times is if he

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Speaker 5: doesn't win a game and they get and they lose,

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Speaker 5: you'll get to keep Jeff Haffley as the new head

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Speaker 5: coach of the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 3: That's possible. I wouldn't hate that. I didn't think about that.

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Speaker 3: We gotta go. God bless you and your family.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: You two enjoy, enjoy the reason that they play these

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Speaker 3: games on Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll talk next week.

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Speaker 3: Thanks buddy, see you brother for you David sinnecon at

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Speaker 3: TC head cheese back at alrighty, may God bless you

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Speaker 3: and all your families. Thanks for listening to nine to noon.

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Speaker 3: Back with you tomorrow when we rise and shine at

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Speaker 3: nine and I'm Paul Allen. Here comes big Daddy con

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Speaker 3: to put that or wrap on the show.

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Speaker 2: Time for two more. The game is over, good stuff.

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Speaker 5: It's midweek season, over lamentation, the lockers cleaned out, feels.

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Speaker 3: Like time for vacation.

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Speaker 2: It's nine in a radio man, it hurts like a mug.

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Speaker 5: But breaking down the playoffs with the Sultan the smug,

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Speaker 5: of course, he feels good about the Bears and all

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Speaker 5: the pac fans that are shaped like pairs.

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Speaker 2: While we're wondering what we have in ty Felton.

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Speaker 5: He's talking about the loss of who Boat Melton and

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Speaker 5: taking talkbacks on the return of chains. Money's easy, no

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Speaker 5: need for Maynard Kaines. But while we kill these segments

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Speaker 5: about the.

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Speaker 2: QB, we're watching other team buying for the trophies.

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Speaker 5: On TV tomorrow, it's likely more of the same and

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Speaker 5: we'll pump it up for the Howl and the Wild Games.

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Speaker 5: He's an any presser, and then it's time to kick rocks.

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Speaker 5: Move on to next week's first Box in the Box.

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Speaker 2: That's This Team is All About Defense Breaking HID podcast

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