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Speaker 1: without further ado. He's the man who joins us each
Speaker 1: week at six twenty by phone. What a treat to
Speaker 1: have him in person tonight he covers the Bengals for
Speaker 1: c l n S Media, host of the Jungle War podcast,
Speaker 1: The Man we call Trags, Mike Petralia, It is great
Speaker 1: to see you.
Speaker 3: It is great to be here. I must tell you.
Speaker 4: I am to be doing this in person, can cause lance.
Speaker 4: It gives a lot more personality when you are in person.
Speaker 3: Yes, there's a lot more texture.
Speaker 1: That's a key question. Let me see. We may be
Speaker 1: switching your mics here. There's the there's the realness of
Speaker 1: being here in person. It's not as easy as the bone.
Speaker 1: Oh you are back. You are back and ready to go. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1: What I was gonna say is I love.
Speaker 4: In person because there's a lot more texture and animation
Speaker 4: and I'm into the conversation a lot more and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna get fat.
Speaker 3: So there is that.
Speaker 2: There you go, There you go.
Speaker 1: Let me let me backtrack a little bit into the
Speaker 1: into last week once we heard Zach pivot from overwhelming
Speaker 1: support for Jake too.
Speaker 2: This week, we'll see.
Speaker 1: I think the writing was on the wall that something
Speaker 1: was coming. What was your initial reaction when it was
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco?
Speaker 4: Curious, but he was the best option available. That was
Speaker 4: my initial reaction. Clearly, putting Joe Flacco, the arguably the
Speaker 4: most immobile quarterback in the National Football League behind the
Speaker 4: current Bengals offensive line doesn't intuitively make a lot of sense.
Speaker 3: But he can sling it. As T.
Speaker 4: Higgins told us in the locker room today, he can
Speaker 4: still sling it. He can move the ball downfield, and
Speaker 4: clearly Zach wants to get the ball downfield even if
Speaker 4: teams defenses are giving the Bengals wide open spaces in
Speaker 4: the middle of the field. I don't understand why Mike
Speaker 4: Gasicki and Chick Pace brown aren't bigger options in the
Speaker 4: middle of the wide open field, But that's because Zach
Speaker 4: wants to push the ball to T. Higgins and Jamar
Speaker 4: Chase and andre Yosi vasch as we finally saw last
Speaker 4: Sunday against the Lions. He wants a quarterback that can
Speaker 4: get the ball downfield with authority. You were not getting
Speaker 4: that with Jake Browning. And that's why I think in
Speaker 4: large part the move was made. It also gives a
Speaker 4: rejuvenation to the locker room.
Speaker 3: It sends I.
Speaker 4: Asked T Higgins about this, does this message from the
Speaker 4: organization from the front office kind of kick you guys in.
Speaker 3: The backside, saying you gotta get going.
Speaker 4: You've got to win your one on ones, you've got
Speaker 4: to win battles at the line of scrimmage. Get open,
Speaker 4: and we'll get you a quarterback who can get the
Speaker 4: ball downfield to you with authority. So that was my
Speaker 4: initial reaction, But I do have my doubts. If the
Speaker 4: Bengals cannot run the ball, who's to say that Matt
Speaker 4: Lafleur and his defensive coordinator don't do everything in the world.
Speaker 4: Throw the kitchen sink at the Bengals offensive line, which,
Speaker 4: as you mentioned before, News, I believe there's already some
Speaker 4: significant question marks at the two guarden positions or at
Speaker 4: the left guard position.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Dylan pairschowd.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to play this Sunday, but
Speaker 4: there's some significant questions, and Orlando Brown is not having.
Speaker 3: A good year.
Speaker 4: So you throw everything and Micah Parsons at the Bengals
Speaker 4: and see if Joe Flacco can get rid of the
Speaker 4: ball with any effectiveness.
Speaker 3: Early in that game.
Speaker 1: What a It was fascinating hearing Zach explain the car
Speaker 1: ride and what a crash course of intor into your
Speaker 1: offense it's what I mean you talk about speed learning,
Speaker 1: Holy cow.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean he is an eighteen year veteran of
Speaker 4: the National Football League. He, as the expression goes, has
Speaker 4: pretty much seen every everything, knows all the answers that
Speaker 4: any defensive coordinator is going to throw at him. And
Speaker 4: there is institutional knowledge that is going to be beneficial there.
Speaker 4: But the institutional knowledge of not having work for Zach
Speaker 4: Or in the Bengals offense. That's what they're cramming right now.
Speaker 4: They're going to have a late night meeting again tonight.
Speaker 4: They're going to be burning I don't know at the
Speaker 4: midnight oil, but is certainly going to be meeting late
Speaker 4: into the night to try and get in as much
Speaker 4: of the playbook as Joe can comfortably digest and be
Speaker 4: ready to execute on a Sunday.
Speaker 1: The phrase I've heard a lot and you alluded to it,
Speaker 1: get the ball where it needs to go.
Speaker 2: In this case t Higgins.
Speaker 1: If you look at the numbers and the projections and
Speaker 1: how many the pace he's on, it's down from a
Speaker 1: year ago.
Speaker 2: The catch rate is down.
Speaker 1: I think Chase Brown is somebody who catching the ball
Speaker 1: out of the backfield running the foot there's I see
Speaker 1: those as being incorporated more along.
Speaker 2: With a Mike is sicky. Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: So here's something I think a lot of fans need
Speaker 4: to understand. This offense was designed with Joe Burrow's brain
Speaker 4: in mind, no pun intended. Joe Burrow processes at the
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage unlike any quarterback of the National Football League.
Speaker 4: And it's not close. And Zach Taylor will tell you
Speaker 4: that day in and day out, there is nobody that
Speaker 4: can process pre snap and even at the time the
Speaker 4: ball is snapped, nobody can process like he does. Jake
Speaker 4: Browning does not have that ability, and we don't know
Speaker 4: if Joe Flacco does.
Speaker 3: I mean, Joe Flacco.
Speaker 4: Has a lot of experience, he has a Super Bowl ring,
Speaker 4: we all understand that, and he is a very well
Speaker 4: accomplished National Football League quarterback. But the offense is built
Speaker 4: around a quarterback who ad libs for lack of better
Speaker 4: word to put ad libs. Mentally, there aren't I don't
Speaker 4: know of another quarterback to come in and add lib
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor's offense. That's the challenge that's obviously we saw
Speaker 4: that was the challenge with Jake Browning because people ask
Speaker 4: why wasn't Jake Browning in twenty twenty five like he
Speaker 4: was in seven Starts in twenty twenty three because the
Speaker 4: offense evolves, and again he cannot. He does not have
Speaker 4: the time to process that he had in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: He just didn't have the time this year. And we'll
Speaker 4: find out whether or not again if Joe Flacco can
Speaker 4: pick things up fast enough to be effective.
Speaker 3: On Sunday, take.
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Speaker 1: Smoothly and efficiently. And our defensive don't confuse me. I'll
Speaker 1: blow it. I'll blow it. You keep pushing me. Our
Speaker 1: dependsive play of the game. We'll go with Trey hendrickson
Speaker 1: the strip, sack and fumble. Tray had a big game
Speaker 1: on Sunday, Little things into bigger things. First, you tweeted
Speaker 1: a great photo today the owner met the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Yes he did.
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco spent about i'd say five to six seven
Speaker 4: minutes just chatting up Mike Brown and look Mike Brown
Speaker 4: was animated, and it's always good to see Mike animated
Speaker 4: and into it. Look, you say what you will about
Speaker 4: Mike Brown, Criticize him all you want. He's the top
Speaker 4: boss of the Bengals, and he bears the brunt of
Speaker 4: a lot of fans frustration. I get that there was
Speaker 4: not an owner in the National Football League who is
Speaker 4: more engaged or cares about his team and shows up
Speaker 4: at every practice more than Mike Brown. And I think
Speaker 4: he is ninety one one glance think about that, and
Speaker 4: he's showing up at football practice on a random October
Speaker 4: day in week number six of the NFL season. He
Speaker 4: sits on his golf course a golf cart, and he
Speaker 4: watches practice. He's attentive, he sticks around for the entire practice.
Speaker 4: He chats up players here and there. Not often he doesn't,
Speaker 4: but today was a special occasion. The new quarterback that
Speaker 4: he hopes is coming in to help save the season
Speaker 4: until Joe Burrow can return. I thought it was quintessential
Speaker 4: Mike Brown.
Speaker 1: You're around and have been around Jake Browning every day.
Speaker 1: This is going to be a difficult week for him, obviously,
Speaker 1: with all that has happened him. He talked, give me
Speaker 1: a sense of how he's processing all of this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great question. And I actually went up
Speaker 4: on my own today to Jake to compliment him on
Speaker 4: how he handled it on Wednesday with all of the
Speaker 4: news coming down, and he was ticked off. He admitted
Speaker 4: he was ticked off. The team told him on Monday
Speaker 4: that they were searching for a quarterback. The trade was
Speaker 4: made Tuesday. Wednesday, he started immediately onboarding with Joe Flacco, who,
Speaker 4: by the way, is lockered to his immediate left. So
Speaker 4: we're asking all of these questions on Wednesday of Jake Browning,
Speaker 4: how does it feel? Have you ever been through anything
Speaker 4: like this? How can you come back? What can you learn?
Speaker 4: And Joe For half of the interview, not the entire interview,
Speaker 4: but half of the interview. The first half, Joe Flacco's
Speaker 4: right there, and eventually I'm sure Flacco picked up the
Speaker 4: smoke signals and was like, I need to clear out
Speaker 4: of here and give the man some dignity, some space
Speaker 4: to answer these questions without me hovering over him. I'm
Speaker 4: sure that went through Flacco's mind. So anyway, and Browning
Speaker 4: was very frank. He said, look, I take responsibility for
Speaker 4: the eight interceptions and only six touchdown passes.
Speaker 3: But I wasn't the only reason.
Speaker 4: He said it in so many words, sure, and he's like,
Speaker 4: I'd like to think that there are other factors that
Speaker 4: contributed to our offense gaining less than two hundred yards
Speaker 4: and two of my three starts. And certainly he's referring
Speaker 4: to the fact that the offensive line struggled. They couldn't
Speaker 4: run the ball, and when you have those two factors
Speaker 4: thrown into the mix, it's going to be hard for
Speaker 4: any quarterback to be successful. So, yeah, he was letting
Speaker 4: everybody know he understands that he played poorly, but there
Speaker 4: were other factors outside of his control that impacted the
Speaker 4: poor offensive production.
Speaker 2: Sunday, they trail fourteen to three. At the half.
Speaker 1: They'd run it seven times, had thrown it twenty three times.
Speaker 1: They averaged four point three yards of carrie. And my
Speaker 1: thought was at the half and I'm looking at the stats,
Speaker 1: and I say, wait a minute. One team is ahead
Speaker 1: fourteen to three and they've thrown it and passed it
Speaker 1: or run it fifteen times. Each other team is only
Speaker 1: down by eleven. They've only run it seven times and
Speaker 1: successfully in those seven times.
Speaker 2: Is there a fair argument to be made.
Speaker 1: They may not be running it well, but there's moments
Speaker 1: they do that they don't continue on that path.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to go back to the first drive
Speaker 4: of the season.
Speaker 3: Lance. Remember what happened.
Speaker 4: It was a thing of beauty, it was, and they
Speaker 4: rammed it right down the throat of one of the
Speaker 4: best defensive lines in the National Football League.
Speaker 2: What happened to that?
Speaker 3: Where was the desire? Where was the drive? Now?
Speaker 4: I will grant you that Lucas Patrick, who is one
Speaker 4: of the best run blocking, good point offensive guards in
Speaker 4: the NFL, went down with injury. But that doesn't mean
Speaker 4: you just say, well, screw it, we can't run the
Speaker 4: ball anymore. No, you find a way and Dalton rise.
Speaker 4: Every guard loves to run block, every offensive lineman loves
Speaker 4: to run block. But running is an attitude. And what
Speaker 4: happens is when one of or two offensive linemen go down,
Speaker 4: the Bengals retreat if you will, to what Zach Taylor's
Speaker 4: mo O and his DNA is football DNA, and that's
Speaker 4: throwing the ball all over the field. Well, that's great
Speaker 4: if you have Joe Burrow. It's not so great if
Speaker 4: you have a backup quarterback with no offensive line protection
Speaker 4: and no run game to speak of to keep him honest.
Speaker 4: Before last week dead last in the NFL in both
Speaker 4: yards per game and yards per carry, and teams know that.
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You know, yes, the Bengals gained whatever it was, seventy
Speaker 4: yards on ten carries or something like that last week.
Speaker 4: I don't have the numbers in front of me, but
Speaker 4: that's terrific. But if I'm the Green Bay Packers again,
Speaker 4: I throw the kitchen sink. I bring Micah Parsons from
Speaker 4: every gap possible and then some, and force the Bengals
Speaker 4: to show them that they're either gonna have maximum protection
Speaker 4: every single snap, which might be the case, or they're
Speaker 4: gonna become a legitimate fifty to fifty or fifty five
Speaker 4: forty five run pass team.
Speaker 1: I thought, all things considered opponent offensive quality, the opponent
Speaker 1: they score at that moment. The defense, I mean, I
Speaker 1: can't rail on what the defense did. I kind of
Speaker 1: felt sorry for the defense at times. Is there progress
Speaker 1: you're seeing that's being made by this defense?
Speaker 4: Al Golden spoke to us on Wednesday, that would be yesterday,
Speaker 4: and he said, I can sense that the guys are
Speaker 4: coming together more and more every week. They're understanding what
Speaker 4: the calls are. They're playing a lot of rookies. Schamar
Speaker 4: Stewart's injury aside. They are playing, obviously Barrett Carter and
Speaker 4: Demetrius Knight Junior, two guys that I don't think they
Speaker 4: figured Barrett Carter would be playing as much as he has.
Speaker 4: But because they've gone with a base defense, which is
Speaker 4: the four defensive down lineman, and then you have three
Speaker 4: linebackers in there, one of which can play like a
Speaker 4: Demetrius Knight play on the line of scrimmage. You need
Speaker 4: that many linebackers to be able to play and whatnot.
Speaker 4: And I think they've gotten a lot out of those
Speaker 4: rookie linebackers and they've been very, very good. They need
Speaker 4: Shamar Stewart on the field Sunday. I understand that it's
Speaker 4: a short week next week with the Steelers. They need
Speaker 4: Shamar Stewart to be an impact. They know that if
Speaker 4: he's on the field, he can be not only on defense,
Speaker 4: but on special teams. We've seen all the block kicks
Speaker 4: all around the NFL this year. He can be one
Speaker 4: of those guys for the Bengals and they need him
Speaker 4: on the field. The one drive that disappointed me last week.
Speaker 4: Bengals have made it twenty eight to seventeen, and it
Speaker 4: was a game, yes, and they allowed the Lions to
Speaker 4: march right down the field with very little resistance. Maybe
Speaker 4: they were worn out, maybe they just reverted to form,
Speaker 4: but they need There's still more consistency to be had
Speaker 4: on that defense.
Speaker 1: Two questions will run a two minute drill. Let me
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Speaker 4: Related online sel ands since with a y dot com
Speaker 4: have a column up there right now about Jake Browning
Speaker 4: and his great grands yep, and Ted Kara is playing
Speaker 4: for yet another experienced Super Bowl caliber quarterback, so that's
Speaker 4: up there now. The Jungle War postgame pod and also
Speaker 4: all of the audio and video from the locker room
Speaker 4: that is on my YouTube channel Jungle War Pod at
Speaker 4: YouTube dot com and then online. There's a lot of
Speaker 4: locker room reaction today and from the podium of Jamar
Speaker 4: Chase and t Higgins that's up on my x page
Speaker 4: at Trags tr Ags.
Speaker 1: You were in on the season wrap up with the
Speaker 1: Nick Crawl and Brad Mehtter earlier in the week. A
Speaker 1: number of talking points coming out of that. What anything
Speaker 1: anything jump out to you or give. But in closing,
Speaker 1: maybe a thought on something that came out of that
Speaker 1: earlier in the week.
Speaker 4: Reds need to come up with some better hitters in
Speaker 4: the middle of the lineups, and I they don't have
Speaker 4: a budget yet, but they need. They know they need
Speaker 4: to be better situationally, they know they need more power
Speaker 4: in Great American Ballpark. They're tired of seeing other teams
Speaker 4: come in and hit home runs and the Reds some
Speaker 4: you've seen at Lance. They some weeks they turn into
Speaker 4: the big Red Machine. Other weeks they're the little Red Wagon.
Speaker 4: Remember that great and late I may rest in peace,
Speaker 4: Dave Parker, but that's they.
Speaker 3: Want to get away from that.
Speaker 4: They want to be more like the Milwaukee Brewers and
Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Phillies, the LA Dodgers, teams that consistently put
Speaker 4: pressure on opposing pictures. So uh, and I think that
Speaker 4: starts in the minor leagues frankly. But what the other
Speaker 4: big takeaway is they have a lot of decisions to
Speaker 4: make on which players are gonna play which positions. That's,
Speaker 4: to me, probably the biggest takeaway. And you've got to
Speaker 4: figure out, what are you gonna do with Spencer Steer
Speaker 4: and Sal Stewart to start next season? What's that going
Speaker 4: to be, Who's gonna play left field? What are you
Speaker 4: gonna do with Austin Hayes who is a free agent,
Speaker 4: He's probably gone. What are you gonna do with third base?
Speaker 4: You know, keep Brian or Sal Stewart there? What about
Speaker 4: center field? TJ Friedel, I will tell you, and I'm
Speaker 4: not trying to read too.
Speaker 3: Much into this.
Speaker 4: They like TJ Friedel, They didn't love the way he
Speaker 4: kind of wore down again at the end of the year,
Speaker 4: not necessarily injury, just he wore down because J. Friedel
Speaker 4: is not a big guy and God bless his heart,
Speaker 4: but guys like that can wear down, right and Nick
Speaker 4: nick Crawl made reference to that.
Speaker 3: So what do you do in center field?
Speaker 4: And the Matt McLean's shoulder, it's got to be fully
Speaker 4: healthy next year. We all know that Noelve Marte needs
Speaker 4: to take another step forward. They were very happy with that.
Speaker 4: And what to do with La Daily Cruz for now.
Speaker 4: He's your short stuff, excellent stuff as always. I really
Speaker 4: appreciate you making the trip out here. I really enjoyed
Speaker 4: the conversation.
Speaker 3: Thanks for dinner, Budd.
Speaker 2: You got it. He's dragged. Check him out, take a
Speaker 2: time out and continue.
Speaker 3: Get a check on.
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