WEBVTT - Second Date Update: He Has Herpes 

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<v Speaker 1>It's the second date update, Mojo in the morning, Second

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<v Speaker 1>date update.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you not getting a callback after you went

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<v Speaker 2>on a date? Fernando was being very very honest on

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<v Speaker 2>his first date and had a good time with Sophia,

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<v Speaker 2>said that things went good.

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<v Speaker 1>What'd you guys do?

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<v Speaker 3>We just went on a date. It's pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>It just went drinks, just had and drinks. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I And now she's not calling you back and he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to know what's going on. Sophia is on with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Fernando say hello to Sophia.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hi, Sophia.

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<v Speaker 2>Would say, say tell us what's going on? Guys? What's

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<v Speaker 2>going on here? Fernando just seems so down Sophia listen

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<v Speaker 2>to that. He's sad. He says he's not hearing from yet.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Would?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you not have a good time on the date?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we did have a good time, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>If he's a really nice guy, I just I just

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<v Speaker 4>can't be with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, why can you not be with him?

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<v Speaker 4>I think I really don't want to, you know, talk

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<v Speaker 4>about anyone. It was like personal business. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>it's right.

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<v Speaker 1>But can I ask him if it's okay? If you

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<v Speaker 1>tell some business on the air. I mean, I guess, Fernando.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you okay if she tells you why she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to go on a date with you and it

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<v Speaker 2>might be a little personal for.

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<v Speaker 5>You, Sure, whatever, go ahead?

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<v Speaker 1>You got the okay, Sophia?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay? I mean after the dates, you know, we were

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<v Speaker 4>in the car and I went to kiss him and

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<v Speaker 4>she stopped me and told me that he has heart

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<v Speaker 4>bees and that it's only really contagious if it's octave.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold one a second, what's Fernando? Do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>stop it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I didn't do anything wrong. I hand it like

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<v Speaker 3>an adult.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you okay with her continuing to talk? Or do

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<v Speaker 2>you not want her to say anymore?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, that's no, that's too much.

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<v Speaker 3>No. I mean I didn't think you were going to

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<v Speaker 3>say that on air. What was going on? Why would

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<v Speaker 3>you say that?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I just wanted to comfortable being with somebody,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, who has something like that where it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty much it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Never I understand that.

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<v Speaker 5>But I said that was confidence to tell you that

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<v Speaker 5>I have that, because you know, I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>trying to be a responsible adult and tell you that

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<v Speaker 5>I had, you know, hurtpees and I don't want you to.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think you were going to say that all

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<v Speaker 3>on air.

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<v Speaker 2>And then let's not talk anymore about it if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel comfortable. But I'd just like to know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what was the setting was this. Were you guys in

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<v Speaker 2>a in a position where you were just talking or

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<v Speaker 2>were you guys about to be get into we.

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<v Speaker 3>Were like about to get not intimate, but to give

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<v Speaker 3>a kiss. And then I stopped her and.

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<v Speaker 5>I said, hey, like, you know, I have this, and

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<v Speaker 5>I said it with confidence, and you know, I wanted to,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, be responsible and say, hey, like, I have this,

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<v Speaker 5>and I want you to know that.

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<v Speaker 6>First and foremost, I respect you for coming out and

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<v Speaker 6>saying agreed and I apology.

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<v Speaker 1>That couldn't have been an easy thing, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, I didn't want to be you know, irresponsible.

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<v Speaker 3>And spread and if it's if it's active so far

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<v Speaker 3>it's not as active as not active. But at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time, you know, I said that with confidence. Yeah

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<v Speaker 3>all right, So.

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<v Speaker 2>So so Sophia, I think Fernando and you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>started this, Fernando by saying you could have told me

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<v Speaker 2>you wanted to know that on the night of the

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<v Speaker 2>date or maybe afterwards, like send a text. You didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to have to be constantly calling and then have

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<v Speaker 2>to be on our show doing this.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, I feel like that's the most respectful

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<v Speaker 5>way to do it is just tell me.

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<v Speaker 3>Afterwards and be like, hey, I'm not interested because.

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<v Speaker 5>Of what you told me.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been cool with that.

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<v Speaker 3>But ghost me and not telling me, I think that's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Mess about man. So, Phil, do you do you understand

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<v Speaker 1>that and you feel bad about that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I mean I understand I could have

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<v Speaker 4>done it in a different way. I was just a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit in shocks, and I don't really know how

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<v Speaker 4>to say it, you know, wasn't really sure how to

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<v Speaker 4>how to approach it. I didn't wanted to say.

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<v Speaker 1>The obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on one second call from Allison here calling in

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<v Speaker 2>eight four form of Joe Live or text ninety five

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<v Speaker 2>zero zero. Allison, what do you think of what just

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<v Speaker 2>happened on the air here with Fernando and Sofia.

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<v Speaker 7>I kind of thinks he's a little a holess. I

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<v Speaker 7>feel like Fernando was, you know, was quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a big adult move to do.

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<v Speaker 6>And I feel like people have call stores every day,

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<v Speaker 6>like all the time, like you've never had a call.

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<v Speaker 4>For and like, like he said, instead of just goes.

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<v Speaker 7>To him, just why would you just tell.

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<v Speaker 4>Him like, hey, I'm not really comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>With it, Like let's be adults here.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I am. I say that every second date update.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, what what's up?

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<v Speaker 9>High morning?

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone, morning, what's going on.

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<v Speaker 9>I think it's great that he was you know, honest

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<v Speaker 9>and open and sharing. You know, he he has this

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<v Speaker 9>and you know, obviously concerned for maybe not concerned is

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<v Speaker 9>the right words, but letting her know up front. But

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<v Speaker 9>it almost sounds like he is saying like, well, I

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<v Speaker 9>told you so you should be fine with that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>obviously he can he can control.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, consults and telling her, but he doesn't get.

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<v Speaker 9>To control you know, for reaction. If yeah, he he

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<v Speaker 9>did a great job telling her, but if she doesn't

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<v Speaker 9>want you know that, and you know he was someone

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<v Speaker 9>that has this, and that's we're progative.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I do agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm both two callers are very smart in their comments.

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<v Speaker 2>I do agree, But she should have said something, probably

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<v Speaker 2>so that it didn't come to the point where he

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<v Speaker 2>was on a radio show talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>It, and I think that's his issue, not the fact

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<v Speaker 6>that she doesn't want to move forward, the fact that

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<v Speaker 6>she didn't say anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Although Fernando, is it tough to date after you tell that?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you had a lot of people that won't give

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<v Speaker 2>you a second chance?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean it's just tough because you're vulnerable out

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<v Speaker 5>there expressing how you have this, and then you know

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<v Speaker 5>then by the second after her, like they changed their

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<v Speaker 5>attitude or they just don't call me in the next

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<v Speaker 5>day or anything. It's just, you know, I thought being

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<v Speaker 5>honest will be get you far.

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<v Speaker 8>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel wants to comment, what's up, Rachel?

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<v Speaker 2>This is such a narcissistic thing for him to do.

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<v Speaker 7>For him to have you guys call her to see

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<v Speaker 7>why she wouldn't want a.

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<v Speaker 1>Second date, knowing full and well why.

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<v Speaker 10>She wouldn't want a second date, it's just manipulative and

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<v Speaker 10>narcissistic and.

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<v Speaker 2>Disgusting, narcissistic. I have no idea where you're going with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is. I think that is way out

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<v Speaker 1>of line to say why.

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<v Speaker 9>Mojo, because he knew why she.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't want to No, he did not oh, yes, he

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<v Speaker 4>did you tell.

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<v Speaker 6>Me if you if you Mojo had her.

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<v Speaker 4>Bees and you went on a date and didn't tell

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<v Speaker 4>that person beforehand, you want to think that that's the

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<v Speaker 4>reason why.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think it would be narcissistic to not tell

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<v Speaker 2>somebody and go ahead with the kiss. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And narcissistic, by the way, is thrown around way too

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<v Speaker 2>much these days, and it makes no sense in this case.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what he's doing is he's being responsible. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that that's you know, that's he's being responsible

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<v Speaker 2>by telling her. He could be irresponsible by not saying

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<v Speaker 2>anything and going through with a kiss and then telling

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<v Speaker 2>her at a.

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<v Speaker 5>Later date, But it would have been more responsible to

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<v Speaker 5>tell her before the date, to give her that option.

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<v Speaker 2>So should say that to her before we go out

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<v Speaker 2>for drinks here, I'd like to let you know I've

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<v Speaker 2>got herpes.

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<v Speaker 1>Put it in his bid, Rachel, somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>Else who has well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I would say also, like I've dealt with the woman

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<v Speaker 6>that eventually came out and told me that she had herpes,

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<v Speaker 6>and it does it at least from my one isolated

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<v Speaker 6>experience with this one particular person. It's not the easiest

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<v Speaker 6>conversation to have. There's a stigma attached to it. Everybody

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<v Speaker 6>look at you like, is you're dirty and you have

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<v Speaker 6>quote unquote like old schoolways on the playgrounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure. And she didn't tell you before the

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<v Speaker 2>kiss or after the kids. I don't remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm that.

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<v Speaker 6>But the like you can have oral herpes, you got

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<v Speaker 6>vaginal herpes? Yea vaginal herpes you can't get.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like it's like one and two.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's got contact and for that to be contracted

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<v Speaker 6>through salve and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't know if we talked about it on the show,

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<v Speaker 11>somebody called in, but there is a website or like

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<v Speaker 11>a dating service really for people who have I don't

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<v Speaker 11>know if it's just herpes or STDs, just so you know,

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<v Speaker 11>to Fernando's point, it is like a vulnerable thing to

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<v Speaker 11>have to share, and a lot of people are you know,

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<v Speaker 11>don't don't want to deal with it. But then you

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<v Speaker 11>have a community of people who are in your same

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<v Speaker 11>boat and get it.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on.

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<v Speaker 9>Gloria, Hi, good morning, guys. I'm so I'm just I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know if this makes a difference or not,

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<v Speaker 9>but I was wondering, is this like a sexually transmitted

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<v Speaker 9>herpes or is this like cold store herpees? Because I

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<v Speaker 9>know a lot of people that get cold stores and

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<v Speaker 9>they say they have herpes. So I was just wondering.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Fernando's like, I don't even know if I want

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<v Speaker 2>want to ask him to share because he was not

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable with So yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Well, let me move past that.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's an interesting comment in question, Chris, you ghosted

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<v Speaker 2>a girl for having her pies.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I kind of did the same thing that this

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<v Speaker 12>girl did, so I kind of understand. But I wasn't

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<v Speaker 12>wanting to hurt the girl's feelings and make her feel

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<v Speaker 12>nasty and all that, so I kind of just stopped

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<v Speaker 12>talking to her, and then, you know, it eventually came out, Hey,

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<v Speaker 12>this is why I don't want to be with you.

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<v Speaker 12>I won't tell anyone. You know, your seeker's good with me.

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<v Speaker 12>But I understand that she didn't know what to say

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<v Speaker 12>because I've been in that same situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how would you react? I don't think anybody knows

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<v Speaker 2>until they're in it. Raymond maybe nicer than Rachel, the

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<v Speaker 2>lady who called up with her comment, but Raymond you

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<v Speaker 2>actually think that he should have done it way differently,

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<v Speaker 2>And what do you think.

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<v Speaker 7>I believe if he's not insecure about his herpes, why

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<v Speaker 7>not do it before the date? Let her know? Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>I got hurt, but let people know before. I think

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<v Speaker 7>it was wrong with him to just come in for

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<v Speaker 7>a kiss and oh, by the way, I have herpes.

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<v Speaker 7>I just feel like he should have handled it different.

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<v Speaker 2>So he should have said something to her while they

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<v Speaker 2>were having drinks, not when they're about to kiss.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, why are you doing it right before you're about

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<v Speaker 7>to kiss the lady in the mouth? That's why she

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<v Speaker 7>probably like, I don't know how to take this. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know what to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do, you know, I don't know if there's the perfect time,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do think that unfortunately in this case, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think we can come down on either one of

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<v Speaker 2>these guys. I don't know if you have to tell

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<v Speaker 2>somebody before the date though, really I don't.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I don't know, Like maybe he just wanted to.

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<v Speaker 6>Because every day it doesn't have to end in kissing

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<v Speaker 6>or sex, so it may not even be a situation

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<v Speaker 6>where I need to bring that up until I really

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<v Speaker 6>understand that this is somebody I feel a connection with

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<v Speaker 6>and I want to share that information.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on a second initial K on with us right now?

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<v Speaker 2>K voice disguised, what's up?

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<v Speaker 3>But I.

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<v Speaker 10>Haven't heard really tall so first time.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time, so.

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<v Speaker 10>I I just wanted to give crops too. I believe

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<v Speaker 10>it was Brandon. I also have HSV one. It's it's

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<v Speaker 10>not something that you read a date with. You're not

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<v Speaker 10>going to go out and just tell people that that's

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<v Speaker 10>something that you carry.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's.

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<v Speaker 10>One of those things that you share with people once

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<v Speaker 10>they get on that level, and if they take it,

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<v Speaker 10>they take it, they don't.

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<v Speaker 8>So is that like that that? Which one is it?

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<v Speaker 8>Which HS one is? Which one? The cold source question?

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<v Speaker 11>Why so you you don't feel the need to share that,

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<v Speaker 11>Like do you just kind of think everybody gets cold soores?

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<v Speaker 10>Or so I'm a spoke actually then because I have

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<v Speaker 10>the genital version.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh okay, okay, when do you tell people?

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<v Speaker 1>When do you?

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<v Speaker 3>When?

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<v Speaker 1>Will you tell somebody?

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<v Speaker 10>So I will tell somebody, but obviously before I'm intimate.

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<v Speaker 10>It depends on where I'm at in the relationship. If

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<v Speaker 10>it's the first day, second day, it depends on how

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<v Speaker 10>they are and how comfortable I am with them, I'm

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<v Speaker 10>obviously not going to be intimate with them until I

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<v Speaker 10>get there.

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<v Speaker 1>But but you will kiss them and do mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff, but will not get sexually intimate with them.

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<v Speaker 10>I have kissed, yes, but I also haven't had an

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<v Speaker 10>outbreak in like five years.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>And you do you think in this case here that

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<v Speaker 2>Fernando with his whatever whichever you know, Casey has And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to ask him, but do you think that.

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<v Speaker 1>He could follow what you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Or do you think that he did it right by

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<v Speaker 2>saying something to her before they actually, you know, touched

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<v Speaker 2>each other's whatevers.

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<v Speaker 10>I think I think it was amazing for him to

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<v Speaker 10>do that. It takes a lot of courage to be

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<v Speaker 10>that vulnerable with somebody that you just not If she's

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<v Speaker 10>not willing to understand that, then bro, she ain't for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. I agree one hundred percent. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that he handled it right. And I appreciate him coming

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<v Speaker 2>on the air with us, and I hope that he's

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<v Speaker 2>not too shamed by this, because I think that there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to be shamed about. We're going to be back

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<v Speaker 2>with more. Actually no, we're not. That's second date update

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