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Speaker 1: Hey, Shlly, what's up man? How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good man, you know, talking to you guys

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Speaker 2: and taking the kids to go see Santa.

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Speaker 1: Oh nice, nice, nice nice, good.

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Speaker 2: Family time, good family time.

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Speaker 3: They get still really excited about about seeing you.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 3: Go to like the mall or something. What do you

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Speaker 3: do for seeing Santa?

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Speaker 2: What about the mall? About in the mall as this?

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Speaker 2: But we go to the mall wherever, you know, wherever

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Speaker 2: we can pretty much find Santa.

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Speaker 4: Wait, wait, wait, be careful about that. You don't want

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Speaker 4: that hood Santa. You don't want that one.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you do.

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Speaker 3: What's okay? Forgive me, I'm gonna go ahead and take

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Speaker 3: the bait here. What's the what's the difference, what's what's uh?

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Speaker 1: What's the good? Santa is not the.

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Speaker 2: Nicest Santa in the world. To be happy with what

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Speaker 2: you get? Pretty much?

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Speaker 3: Wait, the whole point of being Santa is to be nice.

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Speaker 1: That's the whole point.

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Speaker 2: A little less. You know, you don't always get what

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Speaker 2: you want, and so you don't wanna be sour over

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Speaker 2: not even what you want all the time. So sometimes

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Speaker 2: you gotta be happy with what you.

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Speaker 1: Get, Okay. So that's what that's what hoods Santa is?

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Speaker 4: I have to be finished with Shelby. I'll explain it

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Speaker 4: to you, okay, a little more in depth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I grew up in a very sheltered life, so

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Speaker 3: you have to understand I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I could.

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Speaker 3: Guess, but I I feel like I need the definition

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Speaker 3: here a little more.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to take the baits. Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go ahead and ask.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go ahead and ask.

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Speaker 3: You know, like for all people said driving around their car,

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Speaker 3: They're like, hood Santa, what is that? And then it's like,

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Speaker 3: all right for you people, I'm gonna go ahead and ask,

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Speaker 3: what the heck do you mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: That's hey, man, you guys played a hell of a

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Speaker 3: game against the Bills on Sunday. Man, I boy, we

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Speaker 3: were watching that in the studio. It felt like it

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Speaker 3: was right there and and I guess that's that's just

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Speaker 3: kind of what the league is, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it just doesn't quite can't quite close them out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why I was a big advocate of

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Speaker 2: I've had to be leading and during the game and

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Speaker 2: instead of trying to come back, you know, because whenever

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Speaker 2: you're leading, you know, it's easier. I feel like the

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Speaker 2: keith the lead is to try to fight back to

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Speaker 2: take the lead. But you know, we fell a little

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Speaker 2: bit short. But man, there's definitely some good teams about that.

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Speaker 2: AFC is going to be an interesting playoffs Chelby.

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Speaker 4: I had to ask you this question, man, because there

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Speaker 4: was an event that took place here on Sunday, the

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Speaker 4: Broncos versus the Jag and it was a very controversial play.

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Speaker 1: But it seems though you have it as back and

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Speaker 4: Broncos fans about whether bow Knicks purposely, well not purposely,

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Speaker 4: but blaming bow Knicks for the event that took place

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Speaker 4: with Pat Bryant.

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Speaker 2: You care to elaborate on that, Yeah, because for some reason,

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Speaker 2: whenever I say anything Rocket Country Square, I'm just over

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Speaker 2: here at bashing bashing it because I'm an ex Bronco.

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Speaker 2: I'm not bitter at all. And I've actually mentioned this

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Speaker 2: multiple times before, and Tom Brady has made this point before. Two.

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Speaker 2: You know, you throw the ball high across the middle.

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Speaker 2: How what is the defender supposed to do? We're still

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Speaker 2: playing football. You're putting a defender in a bad position.

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Speaker 2: We're playing defense. It's not on us as defenders to

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Speaker 2: protect your wide receiver. It's on the quarterback to protect

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Speaker 2: the wide receiver. But we've gotten away from that and

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Speaker 2: we've started punishing defenders for quarterbacks and mistakes. And I

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Speaker 2: now quarterbacks feel comfortable throwing in the spots where twenty

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Speaker 2: years ago, you know they call it at the hospital ball.

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Speaker 2: this is more of why I got involved in it,

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Speaker 2: is because I hate how the defender gets blamed right

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Speaker 2: it's not the defender's fault. And that's the number one

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Speaker 1: That None of that matters to us.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're going one hundred miles hour until the

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Speaker 2: So of course you want to try to go a

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Speaker 2: I'm always say it is very unfortunate that it happened,

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Speaker 2: one of our brothers go down. But in reality, yes,

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Speaker 2: it is the quarterbacks responsibility to take care of his

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Speaker 2: to take care of your player. But it's not with

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Speaker 2: hate against bow Nicks, no hate against the Broncos. This

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Speaker 2: is more conversation in general about quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and farba from me to tell you how to tweet,

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Speaker 3: because you know you got the engagement that you certainly were.

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Speaker 3: You had to know what kind of reaction you were

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Speaker 3: terms of a big picture conversation that probably doesn't happen

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Speaker 3: So I think we're starting to lean that direction. But

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Speaker 3: I think that if you would have framed it, not

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Speaker 3: we should stop be blaming the defense for plays like that.

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Speaker 1: That's on quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: They need to do a better job of not leading

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know I didn't frame it that way.

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Speaker 2: So and you know, people can feel the whole type

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know.

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Speaker 2: Like, like the biggest thing is one about this is like,

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Speaker 2: But at the minute it's just starts turning into insult

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Speaker 2: that's kind of just how it is.

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Speaker 3: Well, and you could understand this a little bit. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Well are you surprised though, Like and the and the

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Speaker 4: So Joe, you're going to be sitting in front of

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Speaker 4: Could anyone take anything away from a Broncos victory when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because I don't think you know, and and

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Speaker 2: who is I didn't want to a great backup, that

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Speaker 2: everyone's going to doubt you. Everyone expects this game to

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Speaker 2: be a blowout. Everyone expects the Chiefs to not even compete.

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Speaker 2: They have injuries all over. The thing that's going to

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Speaker 2: And that's the scary part because that's football. Anything can

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Speaker 3: Too, understanding everything that's at stake. It's an interesting conversation.

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Speaker 3: But in the end, you guys only really care about wins.

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Speaker 2: I thought he's a hoe and I want that known.

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Speaker 3: Like so, so thank you for for not putting our

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Speaker 2: I just want people to know I don't hate, but

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you, my friend.

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Speaker 3: I've really enjoyed us being able to do this all

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Speaker 3: year long, man, and I'm looking forward to checking in

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Speaker 3: with you again next week. But enjoy your Christmas with

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you, Fellos merachisms to you all man. I

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Speaker 3: All right, man, all right, take care, enjoy that good

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