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Speaker 1: It's Marcus in the morning. You know what time it is.

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Speaker 1: We're back with second date update. Let's bring Tyler on.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about your day with Megan.

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Speaker 2: Tyler. Are you there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Hi?

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Speaker 1: Your DM says she's completely vanished, so let's run through it.

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Speaker 3: She went away, so I don't know me and Me

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Speaker 3: and Meghan met through her mutual friend Alana, and it

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Speaker 3: was her birthday party at this restaurant in Mountain View

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Speaker 3: happy Hour. I walked up to Meghan and told her

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Speaker 3: she had beautiful eyes. So we started talking at the bar,

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Speaker 3: and you know, it's pretty organically, ended up standing off

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Speaker 3: to the side together for like an hour while you know,

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Speaker 3: everyone else bounced around. I thought she was super funny.

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Speaker 1: He's going.

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Speaker 3: We talked about all the usual stuff, you know, work, work, family.

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Speaker 2: So this going to be a dumb question.

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Speaker 1: But what is like the emotional difference between meeting somebody

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Speaker 1: online and meeting somebody irl in real life?

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Speaker 3: If you will, Oh my god, When when that happens?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm sick of the apps, So when

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Speaker 3: it can happen organically, I'm thrilled. Sure I've had some

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Speaker 3: rotten luck with the apps. This happened with someone we knew.

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Speaker 1: Was yeah, that's neat, and then you're both kind of

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Speaker 1: automatically vetted because you have mutual friends and so yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, so sorry, run me through it.

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Speaker 2: What'd you guys do for your date?

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Speaker 4: So a few days.

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Speaker 3: Later, we met up at this tapas place I love

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Speaker 3: in Palo Alto. There's gat's just like great energy in

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Speaker 3: this place. I love taking data there. Anyway, the dinner's

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Speaker 3: going super well. We're sharing tapas, some wine, some crookade us,

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Speaker 3: We're laughing a lot. She's like, we had a bit

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Speaker 3: where she was teasing me about the way I pronounced crokata.

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Speaker 2: I'm very serious about it.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like, well, look it was loose and fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And after dinner we walked around university. Yeah for a

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Speaker 3: bit it felt like, you know, neither of us wanted

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Speaker 3: the night to end. Sure, So I walk her back

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Speaker 3: to her car and she gives me this hug and

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Speaker 3: tells me she had a good time, and then.

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Speaker 2: Nothing, nothing sticks in your mind. That was like weird.

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Speaker 3: Hi had texted her later that night to let her

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Speaker 3: know I got home safe and that I had an

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Speaker 3: amazing time, and she replied me to smiley face or something,

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Speaker 3: and that to me felt like a pretty unambiguous green light. Sure,

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Speaker 3: so I text her the next day saying we should

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Speaker 3: do this again, but she never got back to me. Nothing.

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Speaker 3: I try again in a couple of days. Still nothing,

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Speaker 3: And I'm I'm super confused because I'm I keep replaying

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Speaker 3: the night like like I just did for you guys,

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Speaker 3: and I just can't identify what went wrong. We didn't argue,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't awkward, things never got sloppy. I'm totally lost.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, here's what we're going to do. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: call her. I'm gonna have you on the line. We'll

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Speaker 2: have you mute so she can't hear you. So, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: are you ready to do this?

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Speaker 3: Let's go?

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go ahead and meet your phone. Here

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Speaker 2: we go. Hello, Hi, good morning. I'm looking for Megan.

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Speaker 2: Is this Megan?

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Speaker 4: This is she?

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Speaker 2: Hi Megan.

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Speaker 1: My name is Marcus. I do a morning show on

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Speaker 1: a radio station called Star one on one three. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you ever listened.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm sorry I don't.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. I wonder if you might have a second

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Speaker 1: to be on the air with us. We do a

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Speaker 1: segment on the show. It's called Second Date Update, And

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Speaker 1: basically I got sent your phone number through a DM

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Speaker 1: from one of our listeners who says he took you

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Speaker 1: out on a date recently and he really enjoyed himself,

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Speaker 1: enjoyed your company, would like to take you out again,

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Speaker 1: but he's feeling like maybe you ghosted. So I'm just

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out, frankly, where he screwed up. His

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Speaker 1: name is Tyler. Do you remember your date with Tyler?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I do?

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Speaker 2: Okay, can we talk about it on the air?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? How did it go for you?

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Speaker 4: I mean it was fine. I had a good night,

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Speaker 4: did you guys?

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Speaker 2: I'm yes, sure, all right, go ahead. Sorry, so tell

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Speaker 2: me about it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, so we met, Uh we met actually in

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Speaker 4: real life. We met at a friend's birthday party. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 4: And but I'm I mean, I wasn't really dating, you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't really liked it any acts or anything. But

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Speaker 4: we did hit it off. We had like a really

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Speaker 4: really great time and then he took me out for

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Speaker 4: like tap us and like Mexican food and stuff, which

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Speaker 4: I absolutely love, and like we had some wine and

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I mean, like it was just like

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Speaker 4: a really good night, but I just I don't know,

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Speaker 4: there was just like something that kind of rubbed me

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Speaker 4: the wrong way. So I wasn't really going to continue

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Speaker 4: it further. And since we only really have one date,

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Speaker 4: like I didn't really feel like I owed him an explanation.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's interesting. That's about the fifth time I've

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Speaker 1: heard that with regards to ghosting. People feel like, because

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Speaker 1: it's only when one date, I don't owe you anything.

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Speaker 2: I just find it fascinating. But more importantly, like what happened?

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Speaker 4: I mean honestly, like I just don't think like he's

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Speaker 4: super ready for a relationship right now. He's kind of

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Speaker 4: like in the courtroom phase, so to speak of his

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Speaker 4: like last.

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Speaker 2: Relationship, what does that mean? Like what did he do something?

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Speaker 4: So I don't know, it's it's a phrase. I've heard it.

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Speaker 4: I use it sometimes, Like courtroom phase is kind of

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Speaker 4: like where you're still like, look your honor, look this

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Speaker 4: is what they did, blah blah blah. And we were

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Speaker 4: at dinner and I don't even know how it got

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Speaker 4: brought up, but then he started talking about how he

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Speaker 4: had like a crazy X or whatever, and I mean,

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Speaker 4: calling you know somebody crazy is one thing, you know,

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Speaker 4: it teach their own.

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Speaker 2: But talking about your X on a first date is

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Speaker 2: also wild.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I feel like talking about your ex in new

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Speaker 4: relationships is super important, you know, But I just don't

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Speaker 4: think the first date is where you bring up all

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Speaker 4: of your dirty laundry from last one. You know. It's

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Speaker 4: kind of like how you get to know each other now.

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Speaker 2: Right, So what did he say?

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Speaker 4: Well, it wasn't really what he said, it's what he

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Speaker 4: showed me. He had a whole album on his phone

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Speaker 4: of screenshots of text messages from his ex. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: and then was scrolling through them and me, like I said,

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Speaker 4: like the courtroom face, like he's like evidence a you know,

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Speaker 4: and was like scrolling through them and explaining all this stuff.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know, he was just really really into it,

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Speaker 4: and it just kind of seems like he's just not

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Speaker 4: ready for anything new right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well this is good info.

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Speaker 1: So part of second date update is that Tyler is

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Speaker 1: actually listening in right now. Okay, sorry, trying to make

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Speaker 1: like a teachable moment.

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Speaker 2: So Tyler, are you there?

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Speaker 3: Hey Megan, Hi Tyler.

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Speaker 2: So Tyler, what's this about? Like screenshots and whatever else?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm I'm honestly quite surprised here. I feel like

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Speaker 3: this was just a small part of a what I

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Speaker 3: thought was a really lovely evening. But I have not

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Speaker 3: heard that courtroom face thing before. Okay, I guess I

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Speaker 3: know what you mean. I was not trying to trash

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Speaker 3: my ex. I just felt like one of the things

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Speaker 3: we were talking about was our frustration with you know,

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Speaker 3: to be honest about some of the reasons I have

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Speaker 3: some trust issues, but also I was sort of showing

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Speaker 3: them just so like I feel like you would you

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Speaker 3: would never do this kind of thing, right, Like, isn't

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Speaker 3: isn't this crazy? But to connect with you, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't know, it's like one thing to be like, oh,

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Speaker 4: you know, my last relationship was pretty rough, you know,

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Speaker 4: like I got out of a bad relationship. But the

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Speaker 4: way you lit up and we're just so I don't know,

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Speaker 4: like on something and pull out a whole evidence binder

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Speaker 4: of all of this stuff for your ex and it

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Speaker 4: was just a little excessive, you know.

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Speaker 3: They just still happened to be on my phone and

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Speaker 3: it was relevant to the conversation you're having. I'm really

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Speaker 3: sorry that it rubbed you the wrong way, but I'm

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Speaker 3: not like obsessed with my ex or anything I'm dating,

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Speaker 3: aren't I?

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, but I don't know. It just I

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Speaker 4: feel like you need to come into a new relationship,

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Speaker 4: really clean slate, and you're really still heartbroken about this

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Speaker 4: and really fresh to the point of where you were

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Speaker 4: getting pretty mean, and that's just not something that you know.

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Speaker 4: I want to be pretty too.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, though, Could we just take

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Speaker 1: a beat and maybe keep each other's numbers and maybe

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Speaker 1: date later?

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Speaker 2: Megan, where's your interest level right now?

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Speaker 4: I'm just not really interested right now. I don't really

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Speaker 4: want to date again, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, fair enough? Hang on? Not her guy, you know.

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Speaker 2: Second date update