1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's News. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 2: Radio, and I hope that you'll continue to listen as 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: we make our way just a couple of minutes short 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: of mind. I'm going to be with you for the 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: next four hours here as I am virtually every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: Thursday and Friday night. Rob Brooks is back in the 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: control room and he will take your phone calls beginning 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: after the nine o'clock news. During the first hour, we 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: have four interesting guests. That is the way it works 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: here on Nightside. We're going to talk in a moment 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: with a representative of the CEO, actually the Arc of 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: the South Shore. Going to talk about Robert Kraft's Blue 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: Square Alliance Against Hate, which had a commercial spot last 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 2: night during the Super Bowl, one of the more effective 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: spots in my opinion. That We're going to talk with 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: a volunteer as Saint John's Church, which is actually a 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: food for the Poor program at Saint Francis Xavier Church. 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: We'll sort that all out, and then we'll talk with 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: Sam forty eight, one of the Washington Post reporters. He's 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: a Washington Post sports reporter, young guy from New Hampshire, 21 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: who was amongst the three hundred professional casualties, if you will, 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: at the Washington Post last week when one fell swoop. 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: There were three hundred journalists terminated. We'll talk with Sam, 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: he's from New Hampshire, originally about that set of circumstances. 25 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: Then coming up tonight, we are going to talk a 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: little bit about the Super Bowl. I think that's been 27 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: on everyone's mind the last few days. Patriots did not 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: have a good performance last night against the Seattle Seahawks, 29 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: who really overwhelmed them. We're going to talk about the game, 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: your disappointments with the game. Then we're going to review 31 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: some of the Super Bowl ads. Very costly, and I 32 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: didn't understand a lot of them, and I suspect some 33 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: of you didn't either as well. And I'm beginning to 34 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: think that Super Bowl adds, with few exceptions, are a 35 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: total waste of money. But let us start with our 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: first two guests this hour. Like to welcome Elizabeth sand 37 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: bloom Blom. She's the CEO of the Arc of the 38 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: South show. Hope I got that last name correctly. 39 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: Elizabeth, Yes, you did, Thank Dan. 40 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: And also Jen plant Johnson, she has she's the owner 41 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: and the producer of a movie called Raising Us. She's 42 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: she's the daughter of Marie Maria Plant, one of the 43 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: founding members of the South Shore Mother's Group who advocated 44 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: for kids with Down syndrome and autism some fifty years ago, 45 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: and it sort of catalyzed categorizes the struggle that they 46 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: had when you think back, fifty years sounds like a 47 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: long time, but it's It wasn't too long ago that 48 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 2: people who had children with some so called disabilities were 49 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: not as welcome as we are today. That's changed in 50 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: large part because of the Arc of the South Show. 51 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: Elizabeth sam Blom, CEO of the Arc of the South Show, 52 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: tell us for those in the audience who have never 53 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: heard of the Arc of the South Shore or there's 54 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: also meant there are other arcs as well around the 55 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: Commonwealth and New England, tell us about these great programs. 56 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: Sure, thanks for having us tonight. We're really excited to 57 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: talk to Jen about her project. The Arc of the 58 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 3: Self Shore is actually celebrating our seventy fifth year currently. 59 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: So when we started, we were also started by a 60 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: group of parents that were advocating for their loved ones 61 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: at a time when most children were born with disabilities 62 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: were placed in institutions. 63 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: So you started in nineteen fifty one. I just did 64 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: the math. That's a long time. 65 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's correct. So we've been rooted on the 66 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: Cell Shore for seventy five years and we support people 67 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: throughout their entire life lifespan. 68 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: With a variety of disabilities. 69 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: People that have physical needs, support with kind of their 70 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: daily activities, that are living at home or living on 71 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: their own, all. 72 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 4: The way through people. 73 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: That are in our day programs, working that need some 74 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: support and are living in our group homes. So we're 75 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 3: very proud. 76 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: I've been involved with programs such as the ARC and 77 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: various arcs during my career, and of course a lot 78 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: of times we get hung up on the language and 79 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:40,239 Speaker 2: the language changes, and I know that ARC stands for 80 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 2: a phrase that is no longer acceptable and most people 81 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: know of what I speak. But even though the language 82 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: might change, the mission has remained over all of these years. 83 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: That's correct, and really our mission is simple. It's really 84 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: to empower people with disabilities to be valued in mem 85 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: of their community. 86 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: And I want to bring Jen Plant Johnson into our 87 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: conversation because you are going to partner with the South 88 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: Shore Chamber of Commerce to host a screening of a 89 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 2: movie called Raising Us, a documentary the chronicles five pout 90 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: five South Shore mothers that for fifty years have been 91 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 2: advocates for children, for children with Down syndrome or autism, 92 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: and Jen, your mom was one of these pioneers. What 93 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: compelled you to make the film and tell us how 94 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: long it's been in process? 95 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: Sure well, and thank you Dan for having me on 96 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 4: here to speak about this. So this is really a 97 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 4: community driven film. We are not there to be, you know, 98 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 4: making a ton of money and ending up as a 99 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: little thumbnail on a streaming platform. Like we want to 100 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 4: use this film to really raise awareness and do a 101 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: lot of community engagement. So it's kind of like a 102 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: tool as much as it is a film. And what 103 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: drove me to want to do it is because I 104 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: really realized working in film how powerful documentary can be. 105 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: And you know, seventy five percent of people say a 106 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 4: documentary has changed their view on an issue. It's a 107 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: powerful communication tool. And I was looking at my mom's story, 108 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 4: raising my brother Peter and the who all were change 109 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 4: makers in this community and did things that had a 110 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 4: real effect beyond this community and nobody would even know, 111 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 4: you know, if we didn't shine a light on their 112 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 4: stories and their contributions, nobody would know, you know. And 113 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 4: so once I started looking into it, got getting their 114 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 4: permission to they opened up their stories to us on camera. 115 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 4: And then as I've been raising funds for this film 116 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: through the community, through tax deductible contributions, meeting people all 117 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 4: over the country whose response to that is they feel 118 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: that kinship and that that relationship to these parents, because 119 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 4: there's you know, four and a half million families raising 120 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 4: children with some form of disability right now. And so 121 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: what compelled me to make the film is to you know, 122 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 4: take this really powerful medium that we know influences people's 123 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 4: viewpoints and helps them understand things really up close documentary 124 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 4: and shine that into the lives of people who I 125 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: think are just everyday heroes, you know, and giving them 126 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 4: a little bit more attention that they deserve. 127 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: So the film will be screened this Wednesday, February twelveth 128 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: from eleven thirty to one o'clock at the Arc of 129 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: the South Shore, which is located in Hingham at twenty 130 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: Pond Park. It's free and it's open to all. Ceuth 131 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: Shore Chamber of Commerce members. But I'm assuming that you 132 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: would not turn away people at the door who didn't 133 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: have a membership card to the south Shore Chamber. I'm 134 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: assuming that it's open to the public, and if I'm wrong, 135 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: please correct me. 136 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 4: Well, you can consider everyone my invited guests if they're 137 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 4: not a member of the day. 138 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: What I'm saying, Yeah, I was what I saw that. 139 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: I talked to myself. Gee, why is that so? We're correct, Elizabeth, 140 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: I guess everyone will be welcome if they want to 141 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: join you On Wednesday, February twelve, I'm starting at eleven 142 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: thirty at your offices at twenty Pond Park in Him. 143 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 3: Correct, that's correct, and I think you can learn more 144 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: about the details at Oursaleshore dot org. 145 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: Okay, that's a great website to put out. And let 146 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: me ask you, Jed, do you want to give a 147 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 2: website If people are intrigued tonight, they might be able 148 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: to see a preview or a little bit of a clip. 149 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. Absolutely. You can go to our website 150 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 4: Raising us documentary dot com and you can watch ten 151 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: minute clip sample clip, and there's a button there to 152 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 4: make a donation. We're really asking for people to support 153 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 4: the film in a few different ways. I mean, of course, 154 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 4: we've been fueled by the contributions of people from you know, 155 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: ten dollars all the way to ten thousand dollars, right, 156 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: I mean, we've had nearly six hundred supporters so far. 157 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 4: But I also just wanted to be clear that we 158 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 4: haven't finished editing the film, so we're we're on our 159 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 4: path to completion, and that's why we're opening up to 160 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 4: the community to get our rough cut done by Mother's Day, okay, 161 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: And so. 162 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: You're your idea is to get this up I assume 163 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: on the web for available to as many people in 164 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: as many parts of the world as possible. 165 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: Yes, And we have a full, you know, impact campaign 166 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 4: that we want to do where we're going to different 167 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 4: communities and really showing the film and getting parents who 168 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 4: are raising kids now seeing it and sparking conversations and 169 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 4: places like the ARC sharing resources of the ways that 170 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: all these parents can support their kids. 171 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: So all right, thank you all, thank you all very much. 172 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 2: I got to keep moving here because I have a 173 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 2: three other guests this hour, but one that I want 174 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: to spend some time talking about. So Elizabeth, thank you 175 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: for what you do. Congratulations Jen on the film, and 176 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: we wish all the success in the world. Thank you 177 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: so much for joining us tonight. 178 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 179 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: Welcome. We come back on to talk about Bob Kraft's 180 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: Blue Square Blue Square Alliance Against Hate that debuted last 181 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: night with a sticky note commercial during the Super Bowl. 182 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about Adam Katz. He's the president 183 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: of the Blue Square Alliance Against Hate right after this 184 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 2: quick break on Nightside. 185 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: Boston's news radio. 186 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: All Right, welcome back, everybody. Delighted to introduce Adam Katz. 187 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: He's the president of the Blue Square Alliance Against Hate. 188 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: Robert Kraft founded this group and also very supportive of it. 189 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: There was a commercial message played during the super Bowl 190 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: last night. Some of you saw it. I'm sure, Adam. 191 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: I hope that they didn't charge your super Bowl rates 192 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: for that. I hope that they have a public service 193 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: standard because I saw how expensive, and we're going to 194 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: talk about that later to I I hope they gave 195 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 2: you a little bit of a break on that. And 196 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: I mean that seriously, because you're a great organization and 197 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: it was I think probably the most effective spot that 198 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 2: I watched last night. 199 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 5: Thank you, Dan and great to be back on the show. 200 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 5: And I appreciate that. I can say that the folks 201 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 5: that at NBC are very great partners. 202 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: And so you know, we don't expect you to tell 203 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: me how much cost. I was hoping you were going 204 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: to say. No, they made it a public service announcement. 205 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: We'll get past that. MPI, as a friend of mine, says, 206 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: we'll move past it. I would like to play. And again, 207 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 2: this was a very I thought, significant and strong commercial. 208 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: Whether it again was more in the vein of a 209 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: public service announcement or a purchased spot, it shows for 210 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: those of you who might have watched it last night, 211 00:12:55,120 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: Jewish me and young boy teenager walking past a row 212 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: of lockers in a typical high school corridor and a 213 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: couple of snarky looking fellows intentionally bumped into him and 214 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: they must attach a sticky note on his back. When 215 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: he gets to his locker was on his backpack and 216 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: he sees what the note said. And again on television 217 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: last night, we watched it at you know, Dirty jew 218 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: and you just imagine what that teenager must have felt 219 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: like who was depicted in the in the spot, but 220 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: there was a young man who was a little bit 221 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: more imposing physically, who took him under his wing and 222 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: said that he had he knew what he felt like. 223 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: And it was almost as if they were going to 224 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: go turn and discuss it with the the knuckleheads who 225 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: were depicted. And I want to play the spot for 226 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: you because the the other student says to him, and 227 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 2: it's actually true, they're not worth it, and they they 228 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: walk away as friends. Let's just play that real quickly, Adam. 229 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: You can fill in anything that I might have missed 230 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: on This is cut thirty two. 231 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: Did you see that? Do not listen to that? Thank 232 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: you man. 233 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: I know how it feels. And basically I think this 234 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: is a bit of a shortened version the fellow who 235 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: came to his not to his defense, but came to 236 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: voice his support, which is what this organization, Blue Square 237 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: Alliance Against Hate is all about. He and a friend, 238 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: Adam a pretty powerful message last night. 239 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 5: I thought, thank you, Dan, and I think you described 240 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 5: it well. And you know, one of the things that's 241 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 5: not that obvious the first time you see it, but 242 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 5: I think the more you watch it, you realize there's 243 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 5: all this kind of chatter and whispering that the other 244 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 5: students as the boys walking down the hall at the 245 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 5: beginning you hear the end, that's you know, it's the 246 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 5: contrast between the behavior of all of those students and 247 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 5: then this classmate who becomes an ally that stands up 248 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 5: with him. And that's the really stark contrast, and the 249 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 5: modeling that we're trying to show through this ad is 250 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 5: that you have a choice right every single and that 251 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 5: situation in that quarter, every student there has a choice. 252 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 5: Forget the two knuckleheads for a second, but all the 253 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 5: other students that they could either point and laugh and 254 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 5: be bystanders and not help, or they could come in 255 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 5: and stand side by side. And we really really want 256 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 5: to emphasize that everybody has the ability to make that choice, 257 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 5: and everybody needs to be that person that stands with 258 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 5: the Jewish teenager. 259 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, it's it's amazing that And again it's 260 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: the time when when when kids, particularly teenagers, they're pretty 261 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: vulnerable and everybody, I guess wants to feel they're special. 262 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: And one of the ways that some students feel make 263 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: themselves feel special is by demonizing or or saying, you know, 264 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: just some some horrible things about someone else. You know, 265 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: become special by becoming a real good student, a real 266 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: good athlete, or becoming a someone who has some courage 267 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: and some spine and and helps people who are are 268 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: being victimized by hate. I think that's the message that 269 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: I take from that, that that that mess that commercial 270 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: last night, and I don't it's tough to figure out 271 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: why why everybody doesn't understand that's a pretty simple but 272 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: a very powerful message. 273 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's and that's that's what we're trying 274 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 5: to do. You only have thirty seconds in that slot, 275 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 5: and which so we had to keep it. 276 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: You know. 277 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 5: It's like you said, simple but powerful. And for the listeners, 278 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 5: what you can't hear but you can see when you 279 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 5: watch it is we show a statistic, a true statistic. 280 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 5: Two out of three American Jewish teenagers have personally experienced 281 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 5: anti Semitism. That's the reality and so and the reason 282 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 5: we wanted to share that statistic is to make that 283 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 5: aware for everybody's this isn't the kind of thing that 284 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 5: just happens in that one town thirty miles away from you. 285 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 5: This is happening in every town in this country. 286 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: Well, Adam, If folks want to learn more about the campaign, 287 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: Blue Square Alliance against Tate. You got to have a 288 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: great website. How do we get people to check it out? Please? 289 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 5: Yes, our website is Bluesquare Alliance dot org. That's dot org. 290 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 5: We also have a couple of social media handles that 291 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 5: people can check out to see more of our content 292 00:17:54,119 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 5: that includes stand up to Jewish hate and and I 293 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 5: would just encourage people to get involved in that way. 294 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 5: You know we are the blue square is a symbol 295 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 5: of solidarity. Oh and I neglect that. I realized now 296 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 5: I neglected the other social hashtag it is what's up 297 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 5: with hate? Two different kind of types of content. But 298 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 5: the and the come to our websites, follow us on 299 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 5: social media, and please ask where we can send you 300 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 5: blue square pins. This is all free of charge blue 301 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 5: square stickers. Now in line with this campaign, we have 302 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 5: blue square sticky notes that have that are really meant 303 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 5: to inspire and show unity. I'll tell you Dan one 304 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 5: cool story we were at since you mentioned that Robert 305 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 5: bound in this organization. We were out in San Francisco 306 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 5: last week and at the NFL Experience, the Super Bowl Experience, 307 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 5: we had this basically giant bulletin board with blue blank 308 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 5: sticky notes for people to fill out and probably that 309 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 5: five thousand people that were in town front of game 310 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 5: came in and things like you know, love of defeats 311 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 5: hate and messages like that and the importance of allyship, 312 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 5: and people of all ages, of all races, of all 313 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 5: backgrounds were contributing their own thoughts to this sort of 314 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 5: crowd experiment, and and that's that's what we're trying to cultivate. 315 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 5: So I'd encourage people to check it out and get involved. 316 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: Very powerful stuff that is, that's for sure, the Blue 317 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 2: Square Alliance Against Hate, Blue Square Alliance dot org. Adam Katz, 318 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: the president of the Blue Square Alliance against Hate, thanks 319 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: so much. Say hello to mister Kraft for us and 320 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 2: any night that he had some time and wants to 321 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 2: join us on the show and talk to some of 322 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: my listeners. He's the door is always opened. 323 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 5: Let him know that, Okay, I absolutely well, Dan, thank 324 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 5: you so much. 325 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: All right, Adam, talked to you soon. Here comes the 326 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: news at the bottom of the hour. When we get back, 327 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about volunteers are needed. There's a 328 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 2: church that has opened its doors overnight, sheltered during bitter cold. 329 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: This is in Worcester, and we'll talk with one of 330 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: the volunteers of one of the pro people involved in 331 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: this program for the Food for the Poor program at 332 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: Saint Francis Xavier Center, part of Saint John's Church in Worcester. 333 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: We'll be talking about that, and then lady, we'll talk 334 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: with Washington Post former Washington Post sports reporter Sam Fortier 335 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 2: about what happened to the three hundred employees of the 336 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: Washington Post last week. So we get lots to cover, 337 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: and then we get to the three hours of talk. 338 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the Super Bowl, about some 339 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: of the other ads in the Super Bowl. We have 340 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 2: a lot to deal with tonight and hope you'll stick 341 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: with us. My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside. 342 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on w z Boston's 343 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: news radio. 344 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: Well, I think anyone here in New England who's been 345 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 2: around for the last few weeks, and particularly for the 346 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: last few nights, know that the cold that we are 347 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: I use the word experiencing, has just been awful, awful, awful. 348 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 2: We're going to talk with Danielle Coutillo. She's a volunteer 349 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: at the Food for the Poor program at Saint Francis 350 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: Xavier Center, which is part of Saint John's Church. So 351 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: that's going to complicate things just a little bit. But 352 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: but let's let's sort it out. Danielle. I know that 353 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: Saint John's is opened in overnight shelter in Worcester, and 354 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: you're looking for some additional volunteers in the greater Worcester area, 355 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: and that that's also in conjunction with Saint John's food bantry. 356 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: So we got a lot of Saints going on around here. 357 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 2: Let's let's get through. Let's get through that maze first 358 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 2: and then we'll talk about the program and talk about 359 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 2: what help you need. 360 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 5: Okay, for sure, thank you, go right ahead. 361 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. 362 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 6: So Saint John's Church is Temple Street in Worcester. And after, 363 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 6: like you said, after we realized how horrible this winter 364 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 6: was going to be, after a few random nights that 365 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 6: we had the center open, we were like, let's get 366 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 6: the community the community together and let's open every night 367 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 6: in February. With the amazing leadership of Father Madden, Father 368 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 6: John Madden at Saint John's, he said, yeah, let's go 369 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 6: ahead and do that. So it was just one of 370 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 6: the volunteers who are in charge of this. It takes 371 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 6: such a village of people to make it happen, and 372 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 6: we're helping a handful of people, more than a handful, 373 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 6: close to sixty people every night get food and warm 374 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 6: place to be overnight that would technically be in outside 375 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 6: on the street and if they weren't inside. 376 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: Okay, So so explain to me Saint Francis Xavier Center, 377 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: Why that's what's the We get two churches here. Let's 378 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: let's square that circle. 379 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 6: Okay, yes, yeah, so it's Saint John's Church is the 380 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 6: main church, but the Saint Francis Xavier Center was opened 381 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 6: a while ago, a few years back, and that was 382 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 6: named after Frank Carroll who donated money to make the 383 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 6: center happen. 384 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: That the is that of physically a part of Saint John's. 385 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 6: We share the same parking lot. But yes, it is, 386 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 6: understand John. 387 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: Okay, it just became a little confusing for me there, 388 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: all right, So yes, sorry, So let's ask this, Okay, 389 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: what's the situation with homelessness in Worcester. Is this an 390 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 2: additional home? It's a home. It's a temporary homeless shelter 391 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 2: which is going to be open every night in February. Yes, 392 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 2: are there other homeless shelters that people go to, or 393 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: has it just the homeless population really become, uh, you know, 394 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: increased in the last few weeks. What what what caused 395 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: the Was it just the cold that they that prompted 396 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: people to realize there were people outside? Give us a 397 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: little backstory here. 398 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, so these are a lot of great questions. So 399 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 6: there are a couple other shelters in Worcester, you know, 400 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 6: is the heart of Massachusetts. So we do have a 401 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 6: few other programs, but what really lacks in our state 402 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 6: and city and country is resources for individuals experiencing homelessness. 403 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 6: A lot of times families, you know, get put at 404 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,479 Speaker 6: the forefront because you know, we have to take care 405 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 6: of the kids. We don't want kids on the street. 406 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 6: But I feel like individuals really do suffer and they 407 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 6: don't have as many resources, especially shelter. And you know, 408 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 6: winter in New England, like you said, is so dangerously cold. 409 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 6: So we a bunch of groups of volunteers said, why 410 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 6: don't we help make our Xavier Center, which is used 411 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 6: for a variety of other programs during the year, in 412 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 6: weeks and days, why don't we turn the spot into 413 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 6: using the shelter every night? They have had this in 414 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 6: the past, but we wanted to bring it back. 415 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: So basically, you are trying to respond to a need 416 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: which is exacerbated by this cold weather throughout New England, 417 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: and you're housing about sixty individuals on an average average 418 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: night in the last few days. 419 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 6: Les yes, okay, and so many more show up. But 420 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 6: we're able if we can't fit them into our building 421 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 6: because of capacity, but we can help them with food clothing. 422 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 6: Thanks to the community. Outpour of support has been incredible. 423 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 6: We've done so many donations that's been so incredibly thankful 424 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 6: for that. 425 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 2: Is there any coordination? Uh? It always seems to me 426 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 2: that sometimes there's a competition as opposed to a coordination 427 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 2: between three or four shelters. They may be shelter, maybe 428 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 2: all the shelters are overbooked, or maybe there's some that 429 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: they can be referred to it. Do you guys work, 430 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: I hope, in concert with the other shelters in the 431 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 2: Worcester area. 432 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, of course, of course we are, and we 433 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 6: are in partnership and in contact with the other shelters 434 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 6: in the area and that have overflowed space as well. 435 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 6: So if we can't fit them into ours, we send 436 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 6: them to theirs and they will gladly be able to 437 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 6: take care of them as well. 438 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: So that helps a lot. 439 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 6: Okay, definitely sticks together. 440 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 5: Yes, how did. 441 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 2: Let me personally this a little bit? How did you 442 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: personally get involved in this activity? I mean a lot 443 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 2: of people live in Worcester. Not everyone is doing what 444 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: you do. Doesn't make them bad people, but obviously you 445 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: heard some sort of a call or you heard about 446 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: some sort of a need and you stepped forward. What 447 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: what got you involved in this? 448 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 3: Well, that's a great question too. 449 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 6: I am surrounded by people all day and all the 450 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 6: week that are as passionate as almostness as I am, 451 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 6: and ending this crisis, especially at Saint John's. One of 452 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 6: our main volunteer programs is a breakfast program we have 453 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 6: Monday through Friday six thirty to nine am, where we 454 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 6: serve about two hundred and fifty to three hundred individuals 455 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 6: a day. And then we see a lot of those people, 456 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 6: a lot of our guests, you know, worried about where 457 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 6: they're going to sleep at night. So we all of 458 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 6: us volunteers, get really close relationships with these people and 459 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 6: want to help them as much as we can. So 460 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 6: I think hearing so many stories throughout the weeks and 461 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 6: months from you know, from the guests that we say 462 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 6: and a volunteers. I just wanted to be part of 463 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 6: the solution. This is I keep saying, this is the 464 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 6: year of finding solutions, So why not start now by 465 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 6: helping lead this. 466 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: You know, in Boston many many, many years, they have 467 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: done a homeless person count. They take one night during 468 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: the during the winter, not necessarily coldest night, but they 469 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: take one night during the January I think it is, 470 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: and they try to do a census of the homeless 471 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: people who are living outdoors outside in Boston. Do you 472 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: have any Did they do anything like that in Worcester? 473 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: And do you know what the homeless population in Worcester 474 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: actually is? Do you have any idea? 475 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 4: You know? 476 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: Is it a thousand, is it five hundred, is it 477 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 2: two thousand? 478 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 5: I do know they they. 479 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 6: Did just complete that count, I believe a week ago, 480 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 6: and I unfortunately was not a part of that, so 481 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 6: I don't know the exact number. 482 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: Well, that's a great The idea of account is great 483 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: because that basically puts your arms around, you know, figuratively, 484 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: the problems you're trying to address, and particularly extraordinarily cold 485 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: nights like we're dealing with now. You can have this 486 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: coordination with with the with the shelters. I can tell you, 487 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: I can remember I worked many years, decades ago as 488 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: a TV reporter, as a young TV reporter, and went 489 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 2: out on some of that activity. And the problem with 490 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 2: homelessness because it's compounded by the various sorts of addictions 491 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: and the fact that people find themselves literally down and out, 492 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 2: maybe sometimes to faul to their own maybe sometimes just 493 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: to circumstances. But all of us could potentially find ourselves 494 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 2: in that situation and all of us shift something. So 495 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: people who would like to help you, what can they 496 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: do other than showing up as a volunteers? Is there 497 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: a website site, a website for the church we can 498 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: get some people to contribute and help. What's the best 499 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: way people can communicate with you or become an assistance? 500 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 4: Yes, thank you. 501 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: Yes. 502 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 6: Our website is Saint John's Food for theepoor dot org. 503 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 6: You can find all the information on all of our 504 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 6: programs on there, and also you can look us up 505 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 6: on Facebook. We have this a Saint John's Food for 506 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 6: the Poor Facebook page which we update often as well 507 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 6: with plenty of updates. About the shelter and other programs 508 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 6: that are happening as well. The need is always there. 509 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: It certainly has been there a long time. As they say, 510 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: when I was Repeat back in the eighties and we 511 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: did countless stories on this issue and the issue, the 512 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: problem has not gone away. Let us put it like that. 513 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: I very much appreciate Danielle, thank you for your efforts 514 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: and everyone at your center. You were literally doing God's work. 515 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: So thank you for doing that. And we'll talk again. 516 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 6: Thank you so much. 517 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 4: I appreciate that. 518 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 5: Thank you so much, my pleasure. 519 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: Okay, when we get back, when we talk with Sam Fortier, 520 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: he's one of the former Washington Post employees. He's actually 521 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: a sports reporter down there, or was who got laid 522 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 2: off last week in this massacre of about three hundred 523 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: careers at the Washington Post. We were talking with Sam 524 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: forty eight coming back on Nightside. 525 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Boston's news Radio. 526 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: Well, last we were talking about this massacre at the 527 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 2: Washington Post figurative massacre with us. Is one of the 528 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: reporters who found themselves, who found himself in the middle 529 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: of this guy from New Hampshire. Sam Fortier, Hey, Sam, 530 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: welcome to Nightside. Sorry to talk with you under these circumstances. 531 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sorry too, but I appreciate you having me 532 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 7: on and thanks for shouting out me being from New Hampshire. 533 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I did a little research and was it Strafford, 534 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: New Hampshire. I'm trying to recall which grew up. 535 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I grew up in Strafford, New Hampshire, kind of 536 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 7: near Dover. And I also, you know, my family a 537 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 7: lot of time in Bailey Island, Maine. So big, big 538 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 7: New England guy here. 539 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: And I looked at you by you went to Syracuse, 540 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: I believe as an undergrad. 541 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 7: Yep, I did. 542 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: Okay, are you on a headset? Sam Bundy Chancellor though, no, 543 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: no I'm not okay, good enough, Okay, it wasn't your 544 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: because sometimes we get a little bit of a delay. 545 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: So you work for the post. You're a young guy, 546 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 2: you're in your twenties, you're at the beginning of your career. 547 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: You've covered the Commodores down there, the Commanders, I should 548 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: say not the Commondors, the Commanders, the football team for 549 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: five years. You covered the Nationals when they won the 550 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 2: World Series back in twenty nineteen, and you cover the 551 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: Rams on the La Rams for a while. I think 552 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: you've written for The Atlantic, you got a great career 553 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: role in here, and all of a sudden you're one 554 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: of three hundred people they get rid of the sports 555 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: department at the Washington Post. What what can people do 556 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: to help or you know, I'm sure you're gonna you're 557 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: gonna land in your feet somewhere. But this is this 558 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: is not a good harbinger for journalism and particularly for 559 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: print journals. 560 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, I appreciate you saying that. I think people really 561 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 7: the I think it's the whole state of journalism. Obviously, 562 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 7: this is a very high profile, tramatic one. This is 563 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 7: you know, one of the biggest days of mass layoffs 564 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 7: and all of journalism history, and especially at a time 565 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 7: like today where people are so divided and you know, 566 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 7: social media I think amplifies misinformation. It's it's really a concern, 567 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 7: you know, not just for me or my fellow reporters, 568 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 7: though you know personally selfishly that is a concern. But 569 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 7: I think the country needs more investment in local communities, 570 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 7: people that are telling stories and going to find out 571 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 7: facts and giving them to readers. And so I think 572 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 7: the best way that people can help is by paying attention, 573 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 7: is by supporting local media and saying, hey, I want 574 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 7: you to invest and pay attention to and hold power 575 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 7: to account in my community. I think that's the best 576 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 7: way that anyone can help. 577 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the things that I got to tell you, 578 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a news guy. I worked as a 579 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: TV reporter for a long time and now done this 580 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: talk show for nineteen years. But when I opened my 581 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: Boston Globe in the morning, my favorite section of the 582 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: Globe is a sports page. And I'm sure that you 583 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 2: know some of the guys at the Globe that they 584 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: have been longtime friends of mine, you know, to Pont 585 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: and Shaughnessy and Ryan and Chad Finn and all of 586 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: these great sports reporters. For me, that's the one part 587 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: of the Boston Globe that I enjoy. Everything else I 588 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: kind of it's like death and destruction are bad things. 589 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 2: And then there's editorials, and you know, the Washington Post 590 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: is like the Globe. It is really a critical newspaper 591 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: not only for the Maryland Shore the Virginia area, but 592 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: also it's the center of power and the political power 593 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: in this country. Now you use the word layoff. Layoff 594 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: always says to me, Well, they're laying you off, but 595 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: they might bring you back. Is that possible or do 596 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 2: you think this is more than a layoff of these 597 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 2: really three hundred terminations. 598 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 7: If there's any hope of that. I have not gotten sensitive. 599 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 7: And there's plenty of group chats full of us, and 600 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 7: I guess I should say, you know, they were framed 601 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 7: to us as left. But you know the email that 602 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 7: I got said your position has been eliminated. 603 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: So right, that's that's that's a tough word. That's like 604 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 2: one of those the word like termination. It's the they 605 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 2: we're at the end of the line. You got to 606 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: get off. I got to tell you you're how old, Sam, 607 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 2: I'm guessing you're somewhere in your late twenties. 608 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, when you mentioned I was in my twenties earlier, 609 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 7: I got five weeks left of being twenty. 610 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I said, you're late twenties. 611 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 4: So you're really late twenties. 612 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the very very very late twenties. And I'm sure 613 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: that you're going to You're going to be fine. I mean, 614 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: you have a wealth of experience, but boy, it's gotta 615 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 2: be tough. We've interviewed on this program in the recent years, 616 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: many Washington Post reporters, culture people, travel people, all that, 617 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: and now we have a sports guy or a former 618 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 2: sports guy. What do you What do you do at 619 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: this point? Do you do you say to yourself, I'm 620 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: just gonna hang and hope that they call me back 621 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 2: and say this was all a big error and people 622 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 2: have responded. Or are you gonna say to yourself, Hey, 623 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: that's gotta be You're a newspaper guy, and I know 624 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: that a lot of newspaper guys make the transition to 625 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 2: the electronic media, and I'm sure you probably could. But 626 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: what do you think the future holds for you? I 627 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: hope it's something good, But I hope you're not sitting 628 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 2: around because it's kind of like when you get dumped by, uh, 629 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 2: you know, a girlfriend. You you got to move on, 630 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 2: you know. 631 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 7: Uh No, I appreciate you asking a thoughtful question. I 632 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 7: have been going through my phone for the past two weeks. 633 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 7: I did get a heads up at this was probably 634 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 7: going to be coming and contacting everyone and everyone, anyone 635 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 7: and everyone. You know, journalism feels like a game of 636 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 7: musical chairs, and there's fewer and fewer chairs all the time. 637 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 7: And so I love journalism. I want to stay in 638 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 7: the game. I care a lot about you know, reporting 639 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 7: and facts and getting things right, and I really really 640 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 7: care about doing that for the community that I'm in, 641 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 7: whether it be DC or anywhere else that I'm writing 642 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 7: a story about. And so I've been very aggressive in 643 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 7: reaching out and saying, hey, I think I have skills 644 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 7: and hopefully you know that's something that could help your 645 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 7: media organization, whether it be you know, a newspaper or 646 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 7: online or TV or radio. It's I'm really, you know, 647 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 7: platform agnostic right now. 648 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 2: Well, there's nothing wrong with that. And say, when you 649 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 2: talk about musical chairs, I mean, the only group that's 650 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 2: guaranteed of a job was to get fired, as you know, 651 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: and NFL head coaches, I mean they just the team, okay, 652 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 2: but it's not like that in the real world. But 653 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 2: I really hope that there are some people listening tonight, 654 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: maybe some of our friends at the Globe who might 655 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 2: be able to reach out to you as well. And 656 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 2: you're you're a free agent at this point to keep 657 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 2: the sports metaphor going here, and it doesn't matter to 658 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 2: you where you may end up playing. I mean, there 659 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: was you're not restricted to East Coast. I assume you're 660 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 2: you'd listen to every opportunity that might present itself. Correct. 661 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 7: Absolutely, I love the game, and the game is the 662 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 7: game wherever, wherever I play it, you. 663 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, no, absolutely, say well, I think you're going 664 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 2: to be just fine, and I know that it doesn't 665 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 2: feel that way today, but I will hope that you 666 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 2: will give me a call a week or two from 667 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: now when you land somewhere on your feet. Did you 668 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 2: write for the Athletic as well at some point or no? 669 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, I interned at the Washington Post and then left 670 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 7: to be the Chargers La Chargers b writer at the Athletic, 671 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 7: and then I went back to the Post. 672 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:03,919 Speaker 2: Right, And you know, I know the Athletic is part 673 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: of that new world of journalism, and maybe you know 674 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 2: you'd like to find a good spot at you know, 675 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 2: New York Times, LA Times, Boston Globe or whatever. You 676 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 2: sound to me like a guy that is a great writer. 677 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 2: I want to will follow your career, and i'd appreciate 678 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 2: if you keep us posted so that we can have 679 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 2: another conversation, one that will be a little bit more 680 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 2: celibratory of wherever you're going to be next. So people 681 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 2: in New England can follow you, simple as that, and 682 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 2: I'd appreciate if you keep in touch. 683 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 7: Absolutely, I would love to do that. And I really 684 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 7: appreciate you, know, you showing that interest and carrying enough 685 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 7: to reach out. 686 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well again, this is a horrible story, but hopefully 687 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 2: for some people it's going to be the start of 688 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 2: a new lease on life. And in my career I 689 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: always found that whenever one door closed, another tended to open. 690 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 2: And I trust and pray that that will work for 691 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 2: you as well. But I really mean that, I'm not 692 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 2: this is not like a end of a conversation comment. 693 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 2: Keep in touch. Rob will give you my personal number, 694 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 2: and you know if I hear it of anything, I'll 695 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 2: reach out to you as well. 696 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 7: Okay, perfect, that sounds great, Thank you so much. 697 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 2: Hang on, hang on, Rob gives you my best number. 698 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 2: We'll be back right thanks to Sam Fortier, former sports 699 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 2: writer at the Washington Post. We will be back, and 700 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about the Patriots problems manifold as 701 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 2: they are in Santa Clara last night. Also going to 702 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 2: talk about the the ads, which seemed to me, with 703 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 2: a few exceptions, to be a real waste of time. 704 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 2: So we'll get to all of that. Okay, we're going 705 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 2: to do our super Bowl follow up show. We're going 706 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 2: to announce our winner of the nightside coffee mug. We 707 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 2: have a winner that will be announced right after the 708 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 2: news