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Speaker 2: Seventy on a Monday. I always look forward to this

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Speaker 2: moment in time get to hear from the former Vice

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Speaker 2: mayor of the City of Cincinnati, Christopher Smitheman, who's still

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Speaker 2: still heavily active and engaged in matters political, especially with

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Christopher Smitheman, Welcome back to the morning show, my friend.

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Speaker 2: What a real eye opener on Friday with the information

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Speaker 2: from Signal ninety nine and FOP President Ken kober.

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Speaker 1: Well. I listened to the whole show. It was very powerful,

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Speaker 1: and I thank people like her. You know, she doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to do that, she doesn't have to spend her

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Speaker 1: time doing it, and she's giving accurate information out and

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Speaker 1: it's why the inquirer outed her. You know, you know

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Speaker 1: who is this writing this? We demand to know. They

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Speaker 1: don't do that for anybody. It's because of the fear

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Speaker 1: of the factual information that she was putting out. So yes,

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed her immensely. Of course, I always enjoy the

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Speaker 1: president of the FOP, and I hope that she will

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Speaker 1: continue to come on and continue to provide you know

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Speaker 1: the information that she has. You know, I want to

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Speaker 1: piggyback off that interview on Friday to talk about today.

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Speaker 1: And so as council goes it makes the decision of

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Speaker 1: whether they're going to go into executive session. Every member

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Speaker 1: of council should vote. Know, Brian Thomas, this is going

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Speaker 1: to have me fired up next Monday. Okay, now hold

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Speaker 1: on call that roll call. Vote yes real quick. Now.

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Speaker 2: One of the big burning questions in my mind in

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Speaker 2: signal ninety nine and can cover certainly didn't know the

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Speaker 2: the city manager Cheryl Long have the authority to enter

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Speaker 2: into settlement negotiations? Does she have the authority to bind

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Speaker 2: the city into a settlement agreement to the extent she

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Speaker 2: comes up with? One? City council have any say in

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Speaker 2: matters that involve money in the city taxpayers are the

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Speaker 2: allocation of city taxpayers dollars? Christopher? Can she even do this?

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Speaker 1: Law? The law? The law department can, and because the

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Speaker 1: law department is its own entity, right, law, the legal

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Speaker 1: team can. Now, there are situations and this is one

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Speaker 1: of them where council should intervene and say yes or no.

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Speaker 1: But I'm letting you know the law. The law of

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Speaker 1: or no to them. And she's the city manager, and

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Speaker 1: the city solicitor reports to the city manager. Now, having

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Speaker 1: said all that, Brian, look they don't have to go

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Speaker 1: into executive session. So that's a role called votes. And

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Speaker 1: so all the accolade to any council member about how

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Speaker 1: they feel about this, will know it today if they say,

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Speaker 1: we're going to hide this discussion from Brian Thomas, from

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Speaker 1: signal ninety nine, from Christopher samite Man and others.

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Speaker 2: And that's what executive session means. I've heard no reporters

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Speaker 2: know that council members can't even take notes during this

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense, scense, No.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense to me. And why would

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Speaker 2: when we just it was only revealed because of whistleblowers

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Speaker 2: like signal ninety nine and whoever talked with her, that

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Speaker 1: That is absolutely true. And remember the city manager came

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Speaker 2: They did not deny when you read the words from

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Speaker 2: They just describe it differently, this massive settlement, you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously a dodge dip, duck dive and dodge five d's

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Speaker 2: She just denied the characterization of them, which is a

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Speaker 1: Well they will at least call it a white line.

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Speaker 1: But the bottom line here is a signal ninety nine

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Speaker 1: this is on the back of that. So the city

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Speaker 1: He had nothing to do with it, Brian, and that

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Speaker 2: Well, another component of the frustration, you know, moving aside

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Speaker 2: from the tragedy that befell the sheriff's family, the sheriff's

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Speaker 2: tax why in an interest of public safety? This seems

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Speaker 2: And maybe one more place that the city tax dollars

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Speaker 2: are going to be spent settling a lawsuit that never

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Speaker 2: he has even been filed for an action that didn't

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Speaker 2: even justify prosecution. See Connie Pilach about that. One will

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Speaker 2: bring Christopher Smitheman back at seven twenty seven right now

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Speaker 2: fifty five kerseit the talk station. Let me speaking of

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Speaker 2: shooting imation. That's seven to thirty on a Monday, in

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Speaker 2: a happy one to you, Brian Thomas with Christopher smith

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Speaker 2: Aman do every Monday the Smith events. Would I like

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Speaker 2: to call it former Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: just giving you an opportunity to get out of your

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Speaker 2: system here in the morning show, Christopher, and I love it.

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Speaker 1: Well. Listen, brother, we have a culture of no accountability,

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Speaker 1: that what I'm seeing nationally like ice and I stem

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Speaker 1: my condolences to Renee Good, that's the woman who is

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Speaker 1: shot in the head at Minneapolis. But here again, it's

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Speaker 1: the young man, mister Hinton, the recipe of trying to

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Speaker 1: run down an ice officer with your vehicle. Okay, And

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Speaker 1: the context of this is it's been happening all over

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Speaker 1: You boxing a federal agent, a police officer, an FBI agent,

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Speaker 1: what in the world is going on all these videos

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Speaker 1: They can, they can in the middle of an arrest,

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Speaker 1: a deadly forced situation. Right. The reality of it is

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Speaker 1: is that person I'm talking about, Renee Good, was blocking

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Speaker 1: She pulled out in the road and was blocking the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, interference with an officer performing his duties and enforcing

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Speaker 2: criminal activity. You can be cited for that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's probably why they were screaming at her to get

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Speaker 2: you know, damn well, they wanted a martyr out of

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Speaker 2: all this. And much like George Floyd, maybe he got

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Speaker 1: Why do I have to, as a peace officer, be

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Speaker 1: And the the other part of it is what is

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Speaker 1: And the reason I'm bringing it up is is directly

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Speaker 1: guess what our mayor says, We're gonna We're gonna increase taxes.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to pay for this craft. I don't

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Speaker 1: People are deciding I want to leave the city of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna move my business, I'm gonna move my house.

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Speaker 1: This makes absolutely no sense, Brian Thomas. And I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: You know it. Elections have consequences. We'll see it today

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Speaker 1: we are moving in a world here, brother, where it

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Speaker 1: is complete insanity. It's not black, it's not white, it's

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Speaker 1: not Latino. Brother, it's values, and my values are saying

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Speaker 1: to common sense. I love you, Brian Thomas, event will

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Speaker 1: allowing me to have a voice on your show.

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Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure. I appreciate your common sense words

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Speaker 2: and I'll look forward to another segment on this on Monday,

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Speaker 2: Brother, take care of seven forty eight right now. If

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