1 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: A Mark Belling podcast is presented by you Live for 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: quality shifting and industrial supplies. You Line has everything in stock. 3 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Visit you line dot com. 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: The Mark Belling. 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Podcast is a production of iHeartRadio Podcasts. 6 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to start by quoting somebody that I've actually 7 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: quoted on my program before, but I know I've never 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: led with him. This is like the most unusual conservatives, 9 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: maybe the most unlikely conservative spokesman ever. For those of 10 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: you who followed his career, like I always thought Rob 11 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: Schneider was kind of a goof I mean, was what 12 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: he was in Saturday Night Live? Saturday Night Live? Was 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: he wasn't in Two and a Half Men. He was 14 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: in one is some of the goofy show that what 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: was it? 16 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: He was in some Adam Sandler movies. I think he 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 2: was on a TV show like one of those. Doesn't 19 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 2: matter anyway. He uh has become one of that handful, 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: it's growing, but handful of celebrities that just came out 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: of the political closet and is conservative. He's, you know, 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: on Guttfeld's program all the time. He does a lot 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: of interviews. He's still a stand up comedian, but he's 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: a conservative and I guess the reason I thought he 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 2: was an unlikely conservative is he always seemed like playing 26 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 2: a goof in all of the comedic roles that he had, 27 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: But he wouldn't even think that he'd have any political 28 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: opinions really at all. But he's become not only an 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: outspoken guy and a funny guy, occasionally has significant insight. 30 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: He gave an interview a couple of days ago that 31 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: was I thought very provocative. He makes a provocative point. 32 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: I don't agree with him, but I think he's on 33 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: the right track, but I think he takes it too far. 34 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: We're going to start the show by talking about that 35 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: and use it as sort of a launching off point 36 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: to discuss the reaction so far to the movie Song 37 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: Sung Blue, the movie that was based on Lightning and 38 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: Thunder of Milwaukee that hit the theaters yesterday. Were doing 39 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: this podcast on Friday, December twenty sixth I forget what 40 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: name there is for today. In my mind, I started 41 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: to think that this was Black Friday. Then I realized 42 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: that that was Thanksgiving. But this is like the day 43 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: that everybody would return things or whatever. But I don't 44 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: think that happens much anymore because people buy stuff online. 45 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: And it's Boxing Day, which is a Canadian holiday that 46 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: nobody really understands, but we don't honor Boxing Day here 47 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: in the United States. I thought they used to have 48 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: a name for the day that you returned things or whatever, 49 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: but I don't remember what it is anyway. Song Sung 50 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: Blue so debut on Christmas Day. It is getting a 51 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: lot of reviews. They tend to be glowing and raves 52 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: I mentioned that I saw the movie at the Milwaukee 53 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: premiere a few weeks ago at the Oriental Theater, and 54 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: there are several things that made the movie I think 55 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: really work, and one of them is going to relate 56 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: to what it is that Schneider has to say. So 57 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 2: that's enough of a build up for you, and we'll 58 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: get into that in just a moment. First, when it 59 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: comes to shipping packaging, industrial supplies, and equipment, many suppliers 60 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: offer endlessiles of product. You line knows what you can't 61 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: do with endlessiles of product. Test the quality of each 62 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: product and sure everything is in stock and ready to 63 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: ship the same day, and have a team available twenty 64 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: four to seven to answer your product questions. You line 65 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: only carries supplies and equipment they have tested it, tried, 66 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: and often used in their own business experience. The you 67 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: line difference today visit you line dot com. Rob Schneider 68 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: did an interview with Epic TV. The Epic Times is 69 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: a big conservative website. Occasionally they put on a print newspaper, 70 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: but they now have delved into TV and everything else. 71 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: It's major news organization bankrolled by the Chinese opposition, but 72 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: they cover lots of news in the United States. And 73 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: Rob Snider in an interview and they were talking to 74 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: him about not just the issue of leftist bias in entertainment, 75 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: but why the entertainment industry, the d entertainment industry in 76 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: the United States is in such decline. And he made 77 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: a provocative statement, I want to hope from the story. 78 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: Actor Rob Schneider predicts the big studios in Hollywood will 79 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: shut down all lots by twenty thirty. Now what does 80 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: that mean. I've actually never You've never toured any of 81 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: those lots, have you? Lots of people have. The major 82 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: movie studios still have their big they call them lots, 83 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: the big production. They have lots and lots and lots 84 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: of real estate and that's where the movie sets are. 85 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 2: And they have all of these buildings where they shoot 86 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: the movies and they create the sets and so on, 87 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: and they're all in the Greater Los Angeles area. He's 88 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: saying they're going to shut them all down, which makes 89 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: you wonder, well, how will they produce everything if they 90 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: shut this stuff down, unless they're going to like just 91 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: do AI or film on location. 92 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: And so on. 93 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: But anyway, that's what he said. Going back to the piece, quote, 94 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: we are seeing Hollywood completely dismantle himself, Schneider said during 95 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: a recent interview with Epic TV, and then mentions the 96 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: show on there and so on. Quote, you will not 97 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: see these studios, the Sony Lot, the Fox Lot, Warner 98 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: Brothers Lot, those places in five years will just be 99 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: real estate. You will not have those stages anymore. And 100 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: I think it's their own decline. Now let me ENTERGA. 101 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: One of the reasons to think that he might be 102 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: onto something is even in the great demise of Los 103 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: Angeles and particularly in California and general Underdosom, this is 104 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: still a massive amount of real estate. Those studios, the 105 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 2: properties that they have, It's an incredible amount of land 106 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: that could be developed for something or another. It's one 107 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: of the issues that we face in horse racing that 108 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 2: racetracks in BEG metropolitan areas are endangered because racetracks take 109 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: up a massive footprint more than a football stadium, because 110 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: you not only have the track and the grand stand 111 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: in the parking of all of that, but you need 112 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: to have this huge area where the stables and everything 113 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: else are, and the tracks really only make sense if 114 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: you're in an area that's kind of a dilapidated area 115 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: of a city, or if you're kind of off in 116 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: a distance and away from the larger cities. It's the 117 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 2: same thing, just too much real estate to justify the 118 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: money that it throws off. To that extent, Schneider might 119 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: be onto something that a lot of these lots are really, really, 120 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: really big. But his larger point, I'm not sure that 121 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: I agree with. Going back to the piece the Hot 122 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: Chick leading man, so apparently he was in the Hot Chick. 123 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: Do you've ever heard of the Hot Chick. There's two 124 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: of them. Dave Michaels is here, by the way for Paul. 125 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: By the way, Paul did not send in his football pick. 126 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: We're going to do our football segment at the end 127 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: of the podcast, and I had to like text him 128 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: and remind him. First of all, he's like, not working 129 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: today today is a company holiday. But my podcast, you know, 130 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: we do three podcasts a week. It sort of has 131 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: a schedule under itself. So he's, well, it's a holiday, 132 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: I'm not coming in. But you know, between this and 133 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: not setting of the football pick, what if I fired him? 134 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: I think that would be hilarious for most of you know, 135 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: because this has been announced, Paul is leaving the show 136 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: at the end of the year. He's going to still 137 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: do his weekend programs, but he's leaving full time employment 138 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: with Eyes Art and WIS Radio and so on, and 139 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: that's kind of been no so there's only like two 140 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: more podcasts after this one. You ge would be hilarious 141 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: if I fired him after thirty five years with me. 142 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: If I fired him two shows before the end of 143 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: the thing, well, I think this is growing for firing. 144 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: First of all, he's too much of a weasel to 145 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: come in the day after Chris because it's a company holiday. 146 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: And secondly, he Dave did contact him in he said, well, 147 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: I was, I'm working on the football pick. It'll be 148 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: in time for the segment. I think that's bs. I 149 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: think he forgot. Do you believe him or not? Yes, 150 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: because he you know, our recording time, we're doing the 151 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: recording in the morning rather than the afternoon. And he 152 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: said that, well, he thought it would just be well here, 153 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: you're right, he didn't know when we would record because 154 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: he's now working. Anyway, let me get back to Rob Schneider. Here, 155 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 2: hot Chick, that's her where the Hot Chick leading man 156 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: who supported President Donald Trump suggested a series of reasons 157 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: why Kinseltown will fail, which includes what he said were 158 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: the year's long effort to blacklist conservative voices. If an 159 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: actor like me says anything or even questions or dares 160 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: to question the tribe of Democrats, that's it. You're out. 161 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: You're out of Hollywood. The three time Emmy nominated Jokester 162 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: pointed out an awkward interaction with The Irishman star Robert 163 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 2: de Niro during the final scene of Saturday in the 164 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: Elive's fiftieth reunion show, when the cast that alumni went 165 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 2: on stage as the credits rolled. I'm right behind de 166 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: Niro and you know, finally I'm trying to stay away 167 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: and I bump into him. He turns around and has 168 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: that particular expression which I think everybody knows I know 169 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: the expression. By the way, anybody who's a prominent conservative 170 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: and you bump into anybody this kind of elite and 171 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: not conservative, they give you the same kind of look. 172 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: And that's what Rob said is referring to this look. 173 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: It's just like, like, how can you support that schmuck? 174 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: He gave me that look, and he was about to 175 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: really go at me. First of all, you would think 176 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: that why would Robert de Niro worry about what Rob 177 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: Schneider thinks? Robert de Niro is as high as you 178 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: can get it. Rob Schneider's rolling around the level of 179 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: of Rob Schneider, except we know how unhinged de Niro 180 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: gets with regard to the subject of Trump. I actually 181 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: think you could see him worrying about what Rob Schneider thinks, 182 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: that going off on it because de Niro has just 183 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 2: you talk about Trump de arrangement syndrome, which again I 184 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: just contend he is real and de Niro obviously has it. 185 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: So I mean, Schneider's telling this anecdote, here's de bumps 186 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: did at de Niro, and Nero's ready to launch. I mean, 187 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: there's all these people that Satury Nail every union thing. 188 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: They had zillions of people there. Schneider's probably the only 189 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: person on the entire stage that supports Trump, and he 190 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: bumps in it anyway, So he's telling his story, he continues. 191 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: Schneider said he de escalated the situation by just saying 192 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: I love you, which caught the two time Oscar winner 193 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: off guard. That would catch you know, an egomaniac Hollywood 194 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: guy like the Niro. He'sit at a launch off and then 195 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: you say I love you. 196 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 4: It just. 197 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: I mean, the one thing that those people love is 198 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: being told how wonderful they are, so that probably would 199 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: disarm him. The political divide isn't the only factor causing 200 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: the public and conservative members of the industry to turn away, 201 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: Schneider suggested. The grownups comedian pointed out that long gaps 202 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: in new content caused by the pandemic and the strike 203 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: by the Strain Actors Guild and Writers Guild didn't help 204 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: Hollywood's decline. I thought that was just completely irresponsible and stupid, 205 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: Schneider said, Well, talking about the historic sag after NWGA 206 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: strikes in twenty twenty three, and then people realize, hey, 207 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: we'll find entertainment somewhere else. There'll be more entertainment on Instagram. 208 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I think more people watch 209 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: Instagram and they're like, do this. The actor noted that 210 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: the same shift happened in the news, calling podcaster Joe 211 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: Rogan the Walter Cronkite of our time. You're seeing right 212 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: now a rejection of Hollywood, and you're seeing it. You're 213 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: seeing an implosion of it. What will replace it? I 214 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, I think what replaced the news 215 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: is individuals, people talking like Joe Rogan, the biggest of 216 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: those independent media, and everybody else. Now I agree with 217 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: Snyder's take, I don't go so far as saying that, 218 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: you know, we're at the end of twenty twenty five, 219 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: by twenty thirty, these big studios will simply shut down production. 220 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: I just don't think it's that dire, in part because 221 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: while he's certainly correct that massive amounts of viewing is 222 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: moving to Instagram, self create content on YouTube, all the 223 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:08,239 Speaker 2: other DApp police videos on YouTube, and you know, completely 224 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: independent productions like say this podcast that you're listening to. 225 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: This is all competition that didn't exist before, exist prior, 226 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: you know, years earlier, to television and the movies and 227 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: so on. So I think he's certainly right in there 228 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: in this in the sense that fewer and fewer people 229 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: are going to be watching movies and watching TV shows 230 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: because they have all this other stuff that they're able 231 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: to do. But I think he goes too far. Why 232 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: one of the things that's happened is the creation of 233 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 2: all of these streaming services. There's so many that I 234 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: don't think they all need content. And the streaming services 235 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: have incredible value Netflix for example, Paramount Networks, Hulu, and 236 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: then you have Amazon's Prime Video and Apple which is 237 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: getting involved in streaming. In order to get somebody to 238 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: subscribe to your streaming service, you have to have lots 239 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: of content that they want. So that's going to create 240 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: demand for somebody to make the movies and the shows 241 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: and all of that that goes on there. And who 242 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: else to do that other than the movie studios. Now 243 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: it might be that somebody will supplant them, that Apple 244 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: will just say, what do we need this movie company? 245 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: What do we need somebody to make the movie for 246 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: We'll just commission it ourselves. In fact, they do fund 247 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: some of these movies. But still you have to shoot 248 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: them somewhere, and unless we're just going to turn to 249 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: everything being AI and virtual reality and nothing being real. 250 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: I still think that there will be a demand for 251 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: some content, but he's certainly right in the direction that 252 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: we're moving toward shrinkage of this. Now, what are the 253 00:14:52,480 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: points that he made that by silencing so many concers, 254 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: privative voices in the media, and an entertainment at least 255 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: talk in entertainment, much of the entertainment that we have 256 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: had for decades now you're just overwhelmed with leftist messages. 257 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: I mean, how many TV shows are on right now 258 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: that don't at one point or another, jam some leftism 259 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: down your throat. The same thing with the movies. The 260 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: subject matter will either be overtly leftist or they'll just 261 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: work it in. It's overwhelming. This is certainly no secret. 262 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: You know, I've talked for years that the people who 263 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: run entertainment, the only people they know are the coastal people. 264 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: You know, go up and down the California coast and 265 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: then go up and down the East Coast kind of 266 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: from Miami to New York. The elitist, the hoity toity, 267 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: the tody. Those are the people that they know that 268 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: that's what they programmed to they have no kind a 269 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: flyover country and flyover countries the rest of us. The 270 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: guy who mastered flyover country and understood flyover country was Trump. 271 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: But the people who run Hollywood, the people who run 272 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: the entertainment isstry have never gotten that. Back in the 273 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: era in which the late night TV talk shows were 274 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: really a big deal, as opposed to now where they're 275 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: just marginal programs, I always thought that it was interesting 276 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: that almost all of the hosts that became big were 277 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: from the Midwest. Johnny Carson was to Nebraska. Dick Cavitt, 278 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,479 Speaker 2: who was his competitor at the time, he was from Nebraska. 279 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: David Letterman's from Indiana. I don't know where Leno was from. 280 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: I mean, is Leno from New York. He seems like 281 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: he's he seems like he's from New York or something. 282 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. But when the talk shows were big, 283 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: the sensibilities of these hosts. They had the sense of 284 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: Middle America, and while the shows were all either set 285 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: in New York or Los Angeles, I thought that they 286 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: had a sense of being able to program to the 287 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: middle of the country and those people could relate to that. 288 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 2: Take a look at one of the shows that I 289 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 2: think just resonated with Middle of America forever, both version 290 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: one and then years later version two of Roseanne. It 291 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: was set in the middle of the country and the 292 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: values of the middle of the country in part because 293 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: they were driven by the values of Roseanne. Then the 294 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: second thing comes around and Roseanne shot off her mouth 295 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: and said something that was racist, commenting on someone's appearance 296 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 2: in a racially inappropriate way, and ABC used that as 297 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 2: the excuse to dumper and the rebranded the show of 298 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: the Connors and so on. You know, the character that 299 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: Roseanne played was based on Roseanne's life. Roseanne in her 300 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 2: life became conservative and voted for Trump, and the character 301 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: Roseanne for Trump. And I just think that's the reason 302 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: that they, you know, no matter what it was that 303 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 2: she said, she that show just who's not going to 304 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: continue that they couldn't premise it on being set in 305 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: Middle America unless it was the preachy Middle America preaching 306 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: at Middle America. It's again and again and again, it's 307 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: a looking down your nose, not just that people with 308 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: different beliefs, but who live their lives differently condescension. Now 309 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: I've known this my entire life and career. There are 310 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: all sorts of hoity toity and elite people and so 311 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 2: on that are very very nice and don't have this, 312 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 2: but lots of them are the apposite. Even in Milwaukee, 313 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: you've got that kind of North Shore elite kind of 314 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 2: they'll look at people like me and the views that 315 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: I have and they just assume that the everybody that's 316 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: listening to me is an idiot or a moron, or 317 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: somebody that's missing half their teeth and couldn't figure anything out, 318 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: and they're just listening or somebody like me because they 319 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: don't have enough brains to figure anything out. Of Course, 320 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 2: they're the people that can't figure anything out, and they're 321 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 2: the people that can't do any critical thinking, and they 322 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: have a completely wrong view of who it is that's 323 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: in this listening lines. But that's the attitude that they 324 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 2: take to this, which brings me to one of the 325 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: reasons why them will be songs. Have you go on yet? 326 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 2: You've not? Are you going to? What do you mean 327 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: you'd like to? Oh, it's a time now, I understand 328 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: you have ninety seven jobs, you're it's a time. I 329 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: always people say I'd like to do something and it's 330 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: something that's like really easy to do. If you'd like 331 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: to do it, you actually would. Now admittedly it only 332 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: opened on Christmas Day and today's December twenty sixth. People say, well, 333 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 2: i'd like to do that. If you'd really like to 334 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: do something, you will have done it. I mean, I'm 335 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: not talking about well I'd like to go to Dubai 336 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: or something that's really expensive, but well, yeah, i'd like 337 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: to I'd like to take up golf. Well, then you 338 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: would have. If you really would have liked to, you 339 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: would have taken up golf. It's not that hard to 340 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: like start doing something anyway. It's one of the things 341 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: that I do wonder about how successful the movie is 342 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: going to be, without regard to how great it is, 343 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 2: given that I think it's aimed largely at it. You know, 344 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: Neil Diamond himself is now at all these act The 345 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: couple involved were the movie was sad, Lightning and Thunder 346 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: were in their thirties and so on. I you know, 347 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: the people go to movies are buying large young people 348 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 2: and I don't know if they relate to this movie. 349 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: And I just think older people tend to wait for 350 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: something to show up on Netflix or whatever streaming service 351 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: that it's on. So I just don't know if you're 352 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: going to be able to get the kinds of people 353 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: who would love songs soun glued to actually go to 354 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 2: a theater and watch it. I do know that I've 355 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: never seen anything like it In terms of the showings 356 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: in southeastern Wisconsin, every major cineplex that I'm aware of 357 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 2: has it, and some of them have like two and 358 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: three of the you know what do they call them, 359 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: you know, when there's ten screens, like they have the 360 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: rooms that you go into it just they call them 361 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: screens or whatever. Like three or four of them will 362 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: be devoted to this movie because it's like there's like 363 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: eighteen choice a day at some of them, so it's 364 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: all over And I obviously they would expect, because the 365 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: movie is based on two characters from Milwaukee, that they 366 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 2: would expect it to be big in Milwaukee. When it 367 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 2: does hit streaming, I think it's going to have a 368 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: second wave that will be really, really huge because that's 369 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 2: how a lot of people that I think that are 370 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 2: in the target market would watch. For those of you 371 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 2: who don't know what I'm talking about, Song Sung Blue 372 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 2: is the story of lightning and thunder for you if 373 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: you're not from Milwaukee. They just got to be on 374 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: like a Milwaukee level, really big in a Milwaukee kind 375 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: of way. You know, people in Milwaukee and some of 376 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 2: the cities in Wisconsin heard of them, but nobody else did. 377 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: And they were the kind of act that really probably 378 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 2: would only make it in a city like Milwaukee. They 379 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: were two kick arounds on the local music scene who 380 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 2: met and fell in love, and Mike Sardina loved Neil 381 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: Diamond and he developed a career as a guy that 382 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 2: did Neil Diamond songs. And they put on a show 383 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: that was I mean, this is where I'm going to 384 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 2: get to where I think one of the reasons that 385 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 2: the movie works it was you could perceive it as 386 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: being really schlocky, and people that are elitists and stuck 387 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: up would look at this and roll their eyes because 388 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: Mike's dressed up like Neil Diamond. And then when Claire 389 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: Claire said in his wife, who's sunder joined him as 390 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: part of the program. She's wearing the glittery gowns and 391 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 2: they play on the Neil Diamond music and the band 392 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 2: thing is going, and a lot of people would just 393 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: First of all, they look down their noses at Neil Diamond, 394 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: even though he's of the great songwriters of all time 395 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: in addition to performers, and they would look down at 396 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: this because they look down at the kind of people 397 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: who fell in love with the whole Lightning and thunder. 398 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: I think, well, that became a really big deal in 399 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: Milwaukee in part because they worked their asses off, and 400 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: Mike in particular was an incredible self promoter, which you 401 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: just have to be. I mean, I've told the story 402 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 2: a couple of times. If if I met Claire, I 403 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: just forgot it, and I might have because in that 404 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: period of the nineties, they were everywhere. I remember when 405 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: I met Mike. What the movie keeps talking about their 406 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 2: stuff at the State Fair, but in fact, Summerfest is 407 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: where they always were, and they got to be a 408 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 2: big enough deal that they were playing the side stages 409 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: at Summerfest, like multiple days during the week of Summerfest. 410 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: And that's you know, the Summer Fest does all these 411 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: side stages, and they'd be like the kind of act 412 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 2: they will play the afternoon at a side stage, and 413 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: what Mike would do and I don't know how often 414 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 2: he it, but he was doing it the day that 415 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 2: I was there. He's standing in the main gate dressed 416 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: up at his Neil Diamond get up. This was already 417 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 2: after Claire had her accident. I won't give away too 418 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 2: much because of the movie, but most people know the 419 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: story here. And Mike standed at the main gate dressed 420 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 2: up like Neil Diamond, just talking to anybody who would 421 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: walk by, just promoting, promoting, promoting, And I don't know 422 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: how it started, but that's why he talked to me. 423 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: Maybe he recognized me or whatever, but we talked, and 424 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: he talked about her accident and what he was gonna. 425 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: You know, they're gonna whether he was still doing and 426 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: performing and so what I mean, he just worked it 427 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 2: and her thing at this level that she's had, she 428 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: wanted to be a star, and she never had dreams 429 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 2: that she was gonna win a Grammy or anything. She 430 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 2: want to be a start like okay, singing a borer club. 431 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: We're twenty five or thirty. People woul pay attention, and 432 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: it's just the kind of thing that I think a 433 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: lot of people would look, Oh my god, that's your life. 434 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: Who's in that? You're playing a bowling alley in West Alice. 435 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: The thing that there's several reasons that the movie is 436 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 2: really good, but every review that I've read that raves 437 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 2: on it makes the same point, and I'm going to 438 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: make it here. They treated the filmmaker, Craig Brewer, treated 439 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 2: those characters with respect. He didn't present them as two 440 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 2: goofs with such goofy little dreams and doing such a 441 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: goofy act. He met them. I dated a woman who 442 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: was a psychotherapist, and she said, we try to meet 443 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: people on their own terms, meet them where they are. 444 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: And that's what I think that the movie did. It 445 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: never tried to make fun what they were doing. It 446 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: was it honestly reflected that they were doing exactly what 447 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: they wanted to do, and that the people who love 448 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 2: them loved them because this is exactly what they wanted 449 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: to see and it was. I just think that almost 450 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: every other Hollywood treatment of this would have gotten that 451 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: part wrong, that they wouldn't have had any feel for 452 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: how a Neil Diamond tribute act of a husband and wife, 453 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: and the wife isn't even really doing anything that's Neil Diamond. 454 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: She just a background second, and then it's the show 455 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 2: she did her Patsy Klein stuff and so on, how 456 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: something like this could work and they would look upon 457 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 2: it as hoky. Craig Brewer did not do the movie 458 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: that way. It treats the characters with respect, and it 459 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: treats the family. It was a blended family. You know, 460 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: he had his daughter, she had two kids. It might 461 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: have been a couple of other kids that didn't count 462 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: included the movie. But anyway, Claire's daughter, who's done a 463 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: lot of interviews and featured in the movie, and just 464 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 2: a tremendous performance by the actress who played her, I 465 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: think her name is Ella. Anderson daughter, talked about they 466 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: had this concern about whether or not they trusted this 467 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: guy to handle their life story and put it on film, 468 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: or would they make a mockery of them or all 469 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 2: the crap that happened. Would it be kind of humiliating 470 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: and treating them like, you know, a novelty act or 471 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: a carnival side show. And they developed a level of 472 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: trust where they felt that he wouldn't do that, and 473 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: he did treat them with total respect. And I think 474 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: it's one of the reasons that the movie I think 475 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: really really works. I'm I'm sure most of you have 476 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 2: not yet seen the movie. My review of it is 477 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 2: I mentioned this on the podcast a few weeks ago. 478 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: The performances are off the chart. Kate Hudson in particular 479 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: is it's just an astonishing performance in her role as Thunder. 480 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: Hugh Jackman is outstanding. It almost becomes Neil Diamond. But 481 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: the acting, particularly from the two main stars, is really 482 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 2: really good. Secondly, the music is outstanding. They know. My 483 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 2: take on Neil Diamond is that eighty percent of the 484 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: stuff that he did was really really good and twenty 485 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: percent was atrocious. He's one of these guys that had 486 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: like no middle ground. He had some stuff that I 487 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: just thought, really really that whole Jonathan livingson seagull Era 488 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: that he went into, which some of you don't even 489 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: know because the music I thought, Bee and these other 490 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: it just that was awful and he became a character 491 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: mature of himself. But the rest was really really good. 492 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 2: The movie doesn't use any of the bad stuff they owe, 493 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: even the obscure songs like they make a big deal 494 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: of the song Solomon, which is a really good song. 495 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: The music is really really good and the sound is 496 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: really really good, and the singing which the two actors 497 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: do their own singing is really really good. It sounds good. 498 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: The acting is good. And the other thing that I 499 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: just think makes it work is the way they approached 500 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: these characters and their life. Now the story the movie, 501 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: of course, he goes, if it was not based on 502 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 2: a true story, people would look at the movie and 503 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 2: say that that's implausible and ridiculous. Oh, all this crap happened, 504 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: and that Neil Diamond and then this and this and 505 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: this and then all the downsides of after the accident 506 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: and so on. Who's gonna believe this? It's contrived. They 507 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: do change up some details on the movie, and some 508 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: timelines are changed and locations are changed, but the gist 509 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: of the story is completely accurate, so you can't claim 510 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: that it's contrived, because this stuff actually did happen. I 511 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: posted on my account on x which you should all 512 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 2: be following, Mark bellin show the review in the New 513 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: York Times that showed up on Christmas Eve what struck me? 514 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: And the New York Times reviewer absolutely raved loved the movie. 515 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: That surprised me because the New York Times is this 516 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: snooty and you know the nose more than any other 517 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: publication than you can imagine. Maybe The Guardian would be 518 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: more and The Guardian Rave two. The Wall Street Journal 519 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: print edition they don't print on Christmas Day came out today. 520 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: And Kyle Smith, who's maybe right now the biggest movie 521 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: you're in America. I'm gonna share his review. This is 522 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 2: from The Wall Street Journal Today. A tuneful tribute acts 523 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: true affection. Song Sung Blue follows a Neil Diamond impersonator 524 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: and his partner. Here's the review. Song Sung Blue won 525 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 2: me over early on when a bar fight breaks out 526 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: over the remark shouted by a leather clad biker dude 527 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: Neil Diamond sucks fighting words bordering on heresy. Whether you 528 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: love Diamonds Diamond ironically or unironically, this oddball music comedy 529 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: drama is bound to turn on your heart light, though 530 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: if you're reverse to his tunes, you'd best stay away. 531 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: Base and a true story that previously inspired a two 532 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: thousand and eight documentary of the same name, Song Sung 533 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: Blue is a warm and slightly weird tale of a 534 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: pair of working class people. Mechanic hairstylist who in the 535 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: mid nineteen nineties Milwaukee moonlighted as a Neil Diamond impersonator 536 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: and his backup singer and keyboardist. The joy that they 537 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: find in this work is infectious, and I loved this 538 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: movie beyond measure. It wasn't on my annual Top ten 539 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 2: list only because I hadn't seen it yet when I 540 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 2: wrote that Hollywood types often strike and this is the 541 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 2: point I was making. Hollywood types often strike a snarky 542 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: and condescending tone when they peer down the ladder at 543 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: the low rungs of show business. An excellent example is 544 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 2: the twenty seventeen comedy The Disaster Artist. But as written 545 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 2: and directed by Craig Brewer, whose previous credits include Hustle 546 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: and Flow, the twenty eleven remake of Footloose, and the 547 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: sequel of Coming to America. Song Sung Blue avoids straying 548 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: in the mockery of Mike and Claire Sardina, who perform 549 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 2: as Lightning and Thunder. Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson are 550 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: completely enduring as the performers who made it a state 551 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: who made it a state fair where he caught where 552 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: he calling himself. Lightning is chafing at doing a tribute 553 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 2: to Hawaiian vocalist Don Ho, and she is impersonating Patsy 554 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: Klein Brewer interviews. Brewer intertwines the movies two registers brilliantly, 555 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: and then he goes on and I don't want to 556 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: lay out too much more because I don't want to. 557 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 2: I think for a lot of people in Milwaukee, there 558 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: are no spoiler alerts because most people know the story. 559 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: But it's a rave review, and just about everyone that 560 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: I've seen from like the hoity twity film critics, is 561 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: a rave review. So in putting this all in context 562 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: of what Rob Schnier had to say is the reason 563 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: I think that everyone is just struck by the fact 564 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 2: that they tweeted these characters with respect. Is that's what's 565 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: so unusual about it, This elitist tone that Hollywood makes, 566 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 2: in which they make movies about themselves, and every movie's 567 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: got to be an alternative lifestyles that people pursuing a 568 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 2: leftist thing, and you know, nobody making any movies that 569 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: anybody in Middle America can relate to. You know, when 570 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: Mel Gibson made his tremendous movie about the Crucifixion of Christ, 571 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: he had a self finance it himself because no studio 572 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: wanted to fund it. Normally, stories like this aren't TV shows, 573 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: they aren't movies. They're simply not told. And when they 574 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 2: are told, the tone is totally wrong. The fact that 575 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 2: this guy got it right it is what's so unusual 576 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: and so remarkable. And that's where getting to Rob Schneider's point. 577 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 2: I think that's where he becomes right about what's happened 578 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: with Hollywood is that the whole point of Hollywood has 579 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: been to create stuff that lots and lots that the 580 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: masses want to see. And that's what the movies and 581 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: TV were. For the longest time. There was no political 582 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 2: bias in most of the big TV shows. That what 583 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 2: was the political bias of Bonanza one? What was the 584 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: political bias of It's a Wonderful Wife or Gone with 585 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 2: the Wind? I mean was in there? I didn't pick 586 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 2: up on it, And I don't want to suggest that 587 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: Songs and Blue is a conservative movie. What's just remarkable 588 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: is there's no politics to it at all. I have 589 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 2: no idea what Mike and Claire Sardina's politics were, or 590 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 2: in case that Claire are, or even if they have any, 591 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 2: and none of it got in there, and it shouldn't 592 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: get in there, because what would that have to do 593 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: with the story. Nothing. But that's the exception rather than 594 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: the rule. I want to turn my attention to some 595 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: comments that President Prout made about all the photos of 596 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 2: Bill Clinton in the Epstein files, and interestingly, Trump is 597 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: coming to Clinton's defense. Now, Trump has been poop pulling 598 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 2: this old Epstein's story. Trump's names in the Epstein files, 599 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: and Trump met Epstein, and there's this photo here and 600 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 2: so on. There is no suggestion at all that Trump 601 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: was ever done at that island bopping around with young 602 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 2: But the media is just obsessed with trying to tie 603 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 2: Trump's name in to Epstein. And Trump's just frustrated that 604 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 2: the Epstein story keeps being covered because he thinks it's 605 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 2: detracting from all of the accomplishments that he's had. Nonetheless, 606 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 2: he makes a point here about Bill Clinton that's worthy 607 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: of common Trump said, I like Bill Clinton. I've always 608 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 2: gotten along with Bill Clinton. Notice he's talking about Bill 609 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 2: and not Hillary. We respect him. I hate to see 610 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: photos come out of him. Everybody was friendly with this 611 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: guy he's talking about Epstein. He was all over Palm Beach. 612 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 2: Larry Summers was his best friend. Bill Clinton was a friend, 613 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 2: but everybody was I threw him out of mar Alago. 614 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 2: I don't like the pictures of Bill Clinton being shown. 615 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 2: I don't like pictures of other people being shown. You 616 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 2: probably have pictures being exposed of others, people that innocently 617 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 2: met Jeffrey Epstein many years ago, because of guys like Massy. 618 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: That's the Republican congressman of Kentucky who's a real lowlife, 619 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 2: whose polls I don't know about nine percent in Kentucky. 620 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 2: Massy's a loser. He works with the Democrats. Anyway, The 621 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 2: point that Trump is making here, in addition to he 622 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 2: doesn't like the fact that he's being tired of the 623 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 2: whole Epstein thing, is I think fairly legitimate. They just 624 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: uncovered a million more docums think of us, a million 625 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 2: more documents or files with Epstein. See, when you're doing 626 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 2: an investigation, you grab up all of this stuff in 627 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 2: everything having anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein in his life, 628 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 2: And I think what's gonna happen is all of this 629 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 2: stuff comes out, We're going to have even less clarity 630 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: because you're gonna be looking at it, all of this 631 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: stuff that doesn't have anything to do with anything, and 632 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 2: people just looking for what it is that they can 633 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 2: use the political purposes. Oh look, here's this with Trump, 634 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: here's this with this one over here, and so on. 635 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 2: The thing I think that most people want to know 636 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 2: is who went down to that island and who was 637 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 2: messing around with underage girls. Best we can tell, some 638 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 2: of the women at the island were of age and 639 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 2: others were underage. Some may have been trafficked, some may 640 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 2: have been willingly going down there and doing it for money, 641 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 2: but there were clearly guys that were going down there 642 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 2: and having sex with underaged women, and some of the 643 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 2: women were abused, And I think we just want to 644 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 2: know who those people are. And all of this other 645 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 2: stuff is just noise. And I think the more information 646 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 2: we get now, all being presented by people who are 647 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 2: trying to look for certain ways to use it, the 648 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 2: less we're actually going to know about the whole Epstein thing. 649 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 2: Another story. Patrick Byrne, who's been involved in intelligence and 650 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: law enforcement is an analyst and observer for some time, 651 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 2: posted the following a couple of days ago on X 652 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 2: This is if true, and again I don't have any 653 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 2: reason to think it isn't true. This is one of 654 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 2: those like bombshells that people just aren't going to hear about. 655 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 2: He said, I gave FBI special Agent Dave Smith a 656 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: hard drive of Perkins Kooy. Perkins Kooy is the big 657 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 2: DC law firm that was the one Perkins Koi cie 658 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 2: Perkins Koy. Perkins Koi is the big DC law firm 659 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 2: that was behind the Steele dossier that fueled the whole 660 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,959 Speaker 2: fake Russia collusion thing with regard to Trump. Anyway, he said, 661 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 2: I gave special Agent Dave Smith a hard drive proving 662 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 2: Perkins Koi access to Ukrainian child porn to plant on 663 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 2: Prompt's email server. Also, the VA medical system was penetrated 664 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 2: by I Ran Garland, that's Merrick Garland, Attorney General under Biden, 665 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 2: ordered Ray FBI Director pack Ray to destroy it in 666 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 2: the FBI lab ps DOJ fat ass Todd Blanche ordered 667 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 2: the FBI a DOJ to refuse to accept a copy 668 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 2: of that hard drive. Now, again, maybe it's not true. 669 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 2: Maybe the guy's making this up, but it passes the 670 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 2: smell test and certainly seems to be believable if Perkins 671 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 2: Koy was involved in funding the Steele dossier, just making 672 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 2: up a bunch of stuff, about Trump in an attempt 673 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 2: to damage Trump. Why would they stop at that. Why 674 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 2: wouldn't there be an attempt to put child pulling on 675 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 2: Trump's computer? You know when people think that Trump is 676 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 2: paranoid and he's you know, payback for all of his enemies, 677 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 2: look at all of the crap that this guy was 678 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 2: on the receiving end of. As Nicki Minaj said in 679 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 2: her statement at turning Point, very hard to be lied on. 680 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 2: Imagine just being light on and light on and light 681 00:39:55,040 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 2: on the people are believing the lies. Interesting piece to 682 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,800 Speaker 2: share with you on this podcast. It addresses this whole 683 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 2: thing of why is Trump going after Venezuela. Some people 684 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 2: believe it's because of the oil. Some people believe it's 685 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 2: because of the fenool. Some people believe it's because of 686 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: the enormous Venezuelan community in the United States, exiles who 687 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 2: are as obsessed with bringing down the Maduro government as 688 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 2: the Cuban exiles were worth bringing down Castro. There's a 689 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: piece that was written by Michael McNair. It's on Medium. 690 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 2: I'm not linking it up, but medium is it's like substack. 691 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 2: It's one of those sites that post blogs in which 692 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 2: he has a deep analysis here of something that's going 693 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 2: on that he thinks that's driving Trump and our government's 694 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 2: concern over Venezuela. He writes, the Maduro regime has deep 695 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 2: and quiet ties to Moscow dating back to the Cold 696 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 2: War networks in Latin America. By the way, that's true, 697 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 2: there is a separate report that Putin is getting the 698 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 2: Russians that are in Venezuela out right now for fear 699 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 2: that the United States is going to have an attack anyway. 700 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 2: The minority regime has deep and quietized the Moscow dating 701 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 2: back to the Cold War networks in Latin America. This 702 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 2: does not require Russian submarines, a locally operated capability enabled 703 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 2: by foreign technology advisors in financing that Venezuela can run 704 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 2: under its own flag. That model fits Moscow's incentives, It 705 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 2: preserves deniability and explains why the administration would keep the 706 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 2: public story focused on narcotics while quietly building options for 707 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 2: something larger. Now, what's he referring to. He's suggesting that 708 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 2: there's a drone operation that Moscow is running, essentially laundering 709 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 2: it through Venezuela, and that the purpose of the drones 710 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 2: is to attack commerce by ships. In other words, all 711 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 2: the international trade that's going on with ships that are 712 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 2: sending things around the world, that Russia is developing a 713 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 2: drone network capable of knocking them out. If they, of 714 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 2: course have that and start doing it, it will give 715 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 2: put an incredible leverage. So the point that mcnern is 716 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 2: making in his piece is that's the real reason about 717 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 2: the focus on Venezuela. In the same way that Russia 718 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 2: and Cuba created the Russian Missile crisis when the Russian 719 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 2: sent nuclear weapons over to Cuba which would threaten the 720 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 2: United States, and Kennedy said, We're simply not going to 721 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 2: take it. According to this writer, Crumb's concern with Venezuela 722 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 2: is that Venezuela is hiding Russian drones that have been 723 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 2: developed for the purposes of taking out international cargo ships, 724 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:54,919 Speaker 2: continuing Russia working through the Maduro regime and cartel infrastructure 725 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,240 Speaker 2: to create leverage against Washington. Our entire globalized trading system 726 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 2: rests on a base sick assumption that goods can move 727 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:07,240 Speaker 2: freely across the world's oceans. Autonomous underwater vehicles can change 728 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 2: that calculus. A dozen of these mobile autonomous minefields positioned 729 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 2: in the Florida Straits and the Yucatan Channel could cut 730 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,439 Speaker 2: off access to the Gulf, referring here to the Gulf 731 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 2: of America if you prefer the Gulf of Mexico. Venezuela 732 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 2: can also operate these systems under its own flag. Foreign 733 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 2: sponsors provide the technology, training, and payloads. Moscow would be 734 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 2: doing in the Caribbean what Washington has done in Ukraine, 735 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 2: arming a proxy and maintaining just enough distance to complicate escalations. 736 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 2: That's a theory offered by him on what it is 737 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 2: about Venezuela right now that is causing Trump to act. 738 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,240 Speaker 2: My quick little ps on this. I think that Venezuela 739 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 2: is so destabilized internally. The economy is such a mess 740 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 2: that it may not take away war to finally get 741 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 2: rid of the Maduro government that's simply hitting them a 742 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 2: number of times, maybe enough to embolden the Venezuelans that 743 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 2: are still in that country, or what's left of the 744 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 2: Venezuelan military that hasn't drank the kool aid of Maduro 745 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 2: to simply topple him. You know, Venezuela was a very 746 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 2: before the economy cratered when Hugo Chavez came in Venezuela 747 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 2: was one of the most modern of South American countries, 748 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 2: Lots and lots of high very much like a rand 749 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 2: in the Middle East, highly educated people, I culture, great 750 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 2: wealth and so on. And there's still a lot of 751 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 2: the people who haven't gotten out there, still are a 752 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 2: lot of them there. It may well be that if 753 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 2: Trump is sending these signals that we're just going to 754 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 2: keep hitting Venezuela right and left, that the military in 755 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 2: Venezuela will act in the form of a coup and 756 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 2: finally get rid of Maduro, which I think if that happened, 757 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 2: you would see celebrations in the three of Caracas. He's 758 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 2: very much one of those countries in which Maduro through 759 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 2: terror has control of that country. And I suspect that 760 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 2: a significant number of the populace don't approve of him, 761 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 2: which is why they reg elections and so on. This 762 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 2: is the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling podcast. 763 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 2: You know, I have had occasion over the years not 764 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 2: only to say I told you so, but there have 765 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 2: been several stories in which I was so convinced I 766 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 2: was right that I say before the story happened. When 767 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 2: the idea is being proposed I said, you know, in 768 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 2: a few years, I'm good. This is going to be 769 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 2: one of my biggest I told you so. Is ever 770 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 2: the trolley was is always going to be number one 771 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 2: on that list. The you know, I told you so. 772 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 2: I think number two was this idiotic not even the 773 00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,320 Speaker 2: right word. It's more like corrupt. Idiotic idea, corrupt idea 774 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 2: for the City of Milwaukee to use direct taxpayer funds 775 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 2: to bank rule the very well connected developer Kaylon Heywood's 776 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 2: senior and his plans to develop a four star hotel 777 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 2: at twenty seventh North, just saying it is ridiculous. And 778 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 2: the reason it sounds ridiculous is it is ridiculous. Somebody 779 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 2: who wants to stay at a two hundred and fifty 780 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 2: dollars a night hotel is not going to stay at 781 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 2: twenty seventh in North, no matter how nice it is. 782 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 2: The idea was absolutely ridiculous. And I said at the 783 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 2: time that the only plausible reason to do this is 784 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 2: to get the hand the money in the hands of 785 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 2: Heywood and then have him start paying engineers and architects 786 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 2: and so on, and start spending the money. But nothing 787 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 2: was ever going to happen if it ever opened it 788 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 2: would close within six months. Well guess what, nothing happened. 789 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 2: They didn't even begin construction. Nothing, And the city keeps 790 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 2: asked th King Heywood that paid back the money that 791 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 2: they gave him, because it came in the form of 792 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 2: a loan. He hadn't paid anything back. So then he 793 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 2: came up with a second plan for the site and 794 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 2: the city council gave him an extension. Again, I should 795 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 2: mention Heywood is very well connected and is a big 796 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 2: time donor to just about everybody involved in city government. 797 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 2: He's the ultimate inside player. He was also the guy 798 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 2: who was the subject of that very controversial investigation into 799 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 2: a woman's allegation of sexual assault. It was the investigation 800 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 2: in which Heywood's lawyer was present at one of the 801 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 2: police interrogations. People questioned whether or not preferential treatment was 802 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 2: being given to Heywood. He was never charged in connection 803 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 2: with that. Now Tom Dake and reporting on js online. 804 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 2: After version one of this plan at twenty seventh and 805 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 2: North went nowhere and version two of the plan at 806 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 2: twenty seventh and North went nowhere, he would has a 807 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,399 Speaker 2: new plan. Remember, he hasn't paid anything back. He's had 808 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 2: this money for years. Stall development as new plan group 809 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 2: seeks to turn city site into housing, which is probably 810 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 2: the only thing that it ever would be would have 811 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,760 Speaker 2: been in the first places to put into some housing. 812 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 2: So now he's asking and seeking incentives to go ahead 813 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 2: with housing and dragging out paying back the millions that 814 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 2: he got. Again, you may wonder, how how has he 815 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 2: been able to pull this off? How is he able 816 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 2: to get city money for such a ridiculous idea. How 817 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 2: has he been able to go years without paying back 818 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 2: any of the money? How is it that the property 819 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 2: has not been foreclosed upon? How is it that the 820 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 2: city has not sued him for the return of the money? 821 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 2: He would still has numerous other assets, He's got his 822 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,839 Speaker 2: finger in all sorts of things going on in Milwaukee. 823 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 2: How is this Well, if this was Minnesota, it would 824 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 2: make sense, because if this was Minnesota, I would just 825 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,439 Speaker 2: be convinced that Calen Heywood Senior is amat because that's 826 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 2: what this is what the Somalis were doing in Minnesota. 827 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,879 Speaker 2: Everybody knew was corrupt. The corruption evidence is all over 828 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 2: the place. But because the Somalis were a political influence 829 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 2: group in the state of Minnesota, the Democrats cap giving 830 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 2: them money, but this isn't Minnesota's Wisconsin, and so far 831 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 2: as they know, Kaylon Heywood Senior is not a Somali, 832 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 2: But if he was a Somalia, it would make sense 833 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 2: because they in Minnesota were just allowed to do it. 834 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,320 Speaker 2: But it is similar. It's the cloud of Haywood that 835 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 2: has allowed him to make ridiculous proposals and be given 836 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 2: money and then never pay it back and being given 837 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 2: forever and ever at ever to try to develop and 838 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 2: turn it into something. It's free money. If you can 839 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 2: try it into something in which you can make a profit, fine, 840 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 2: If you can't, you're still spending the money in the process, 841 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 2: doling it out to your friends and peddling your influence 842 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 2: with the money that you got. It's a zero risk, 843 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 2: all win opportunity for him. And why why not any 844 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 2: of the numbers of other people that would love to 845 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 2: do something in the unterseity because none of them are 846 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 2: Kaelon Heywood's. So, now, okay, he wants to do housing, 847 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 2: like there's a lack of housing in the central city. Well, 848 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,240 Speaker 2: there's a lack of newer housing in the central city, 849 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 2: so we may put up a housing project. It may work, 850 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 2: it may not work. Certainly people will move into it. 851 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 2: Whether or not he'd ever be able to charge the 852 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,800 Speaker 2: kind of rent to get back the return of the 853 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 2: construction very very dubious. But it would allow him to 854 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 2: pay contractors and pay other people in exchange for who 855 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 2: knows what. What it is is out and out favoritism 856 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 2: and corruption. It is a microcosm of what happened with 857 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 2: the Somalis in Minnesota. In fact, I've got a quote 858 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:46,320 Speaker 2: here from Stephen Miller, Deputy Chief of Staff President Trump, 859 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 2: who has a remarkal of ability to summarize things so 860 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 2: that everybody can understand it and do it in less 861 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 2: than two minutes. Here's his quote. Look how powerful the 862 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 2: Democrat Party became in Minnesota once they flooded it with 863 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand somalions, once the elections were decided by 864 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 2: clan rivalries and ethnic feuds. Once that happened, the Democrat 865 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 2: Party became permanently powerful in Minnesota. They became permanently powerful 866 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 2: of the Twin Cities. When you see the state of Somalia, 867 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 2: that's what they want for America because it's easier to 868 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 2: rule over an empire of ashes than it is for 869 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party to rule over a function in Western 870 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 2: high trust society with a strong middle class. That's their 871 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 2: model for America, to make the whole country into a 872 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 2: version of Somalia. And everything they do gets down to that. 873 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 2: And now a comment from James Comer. Not to be 874 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 2: confused with James Comy. James Comer is the Republican Congressman. 875 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 2: He's the head of the Committee on Investigations. He's one 876 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 2: of these guys who's figured out the crap that's been 877 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,760 Speaker 2: going on on any number of these issues for some time. 878 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 2: Him and Tim Waltz in Minnesota. Waltz isn't going to 879 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 2: fix any of the Somali fraudy issues in Minnesota because 880 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 2: Democrats rely on that population to win power. It's the 881 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 2: whole key to the business model of success for the 882 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 2: Democratic Party in Minnesota. And staggering numbers of them are 883 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 2: on the US taxpayer dole. Quote. The early numbers that 884 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 2: I'm getting in on the Somalis in Minnesota is seventy 885 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 2: five percent or in full government assistance, full welfare. The 886 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 2: lid's I Magic Comra is correct. Twenty five percent of 887 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 2: the Somalis get a ton of money to run corrupt 888 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 2: government programs at which they're not providing services, and the 889 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 2: rest of them are just put on the entire welfare 890 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 2: doll Bring one hundred thousand people from another country, call 891 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 2: them refugees, bring them in, and then pound them with 892 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 2: money in exchange for them giving you all of their votes. 893 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 2: In a state like Minnesota, which used to be a swing, 894 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 2: Saint Garant king that you start with that pad of 895 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:11,240 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand in every election in exchange for allowing 896 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 2: the Somalis to pocket all sorts of money, either in 897 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 2: the form of welfare or worse, the corruption in terms 898 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 2: of the COVID programs and the other programs that they 899 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 2: were running that Minnesota officials knew all along were not 900 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 2: being spent. They got made of thinking, there do you 901 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,959 Speaker 2: know about the Nigerian dating scam? See Dave Michaels is married, 902 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,240 Speaker 2: so he might not know about these things. You know not, Well, 903 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,919 Speaker 2: there's a website. It's been out there for several years 904 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 2: as a husband and wife team that for those of 905 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 2: you not aware. Apparently I've been hearing for years that 906 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 2: the whole online dating world is just filled with scammers, 907 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,439 Speaker 2: you know, fake profiles, fake this, fake the other thing, 908 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,719 Speaker 2: and so on on. That has always been, what's the 909 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,359 Speaker 2: what's your long term plan for pulling this off? Let's 910 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 2: imagine some fat, ugly guy posts a photo of somebody 911 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 2: that's thin and skinny and twenty five years younger, and 912 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 2: you claim that you're worth all this money and you're not. Well, 913 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 2: I mean, what's the end game? Okay? Let's imagine some 914 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 2: woman responds to this, attracted to this guy that isn't 915 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,319 Speaker 2: really who the guy is in the picture and all that. 916 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 2: When you show up, what happens? 917 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 4: Then? 918 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 2: What's your plan? You think you're gonna be able to 919 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 2: explain it away? Well, she says, well, where's all your money? Allowed? 920 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 2: I okay, I made all of that up because I 921 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 2: wanted to meet you and you're really beautiful. Well, how 922 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 2: come you're fat and ugly and old and you see 923 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 2: in the picture? Was all of this? I just don't 924 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 2: understand the endgame of this unless the plan is never 925 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 2: to meet the woman at all. I'm trying to think 926 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,840 Speaker 2: it's one of its catfish. Catfishing is the term for 927 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,839 Speaker 2: this fake dating thing, fake girlfriends, fake boyfriends, and so on. 928 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,440 Speaker 2: And there's a husband and wife couple that are on 929 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 2: YouTube that expose this and what it is. 930 00:54:59,000 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 3: Is. 931 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,840 Speaker 2: It'll be like a woman who's I'm just not sure 932 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 2: that the guy that I've been communicating with online is real, 933 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 2: and there are these guys that he have relationships with women. 934 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's the other way around, but it seems to 935 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 2: be mostly fake guys having relationships with women. It goes 936 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 2: on for years, but they've never met because of course 937 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 2: the guy. The guy doesn't want to me because he's 938 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,880 Speaker 2: a scammer, a stunt. So then they hire this company 939 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,759 Speaker 2: and it's one of the it's that's very good at 940 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 2: doing IP tracking and checking out Internet addresses and they 941 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 2: can delve into what it is that you have here 942 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 2: in you know, they'll con the person into saying well, 943 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 2: and they're sending him money to send them something in 944 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,919 Speaker 2: which you can get access to their computer. And there's 945 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 2: all sorts of scambusters that are out there on the 946 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 2: Internet trying to compete with the people that do the scamming. 947 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 2: And I'm trying to I can't remember the name of 948 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 2: the couple that do this. Some of you will be 949 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 2: aware of them. The woman is really hot. They expose 950 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 2: these guys that are on these dating sites and it 951 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 2: turns out again and again and again and again and 952 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 2: again and again. When they track the IP address of 953 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 2: this guy that is communicating with the woman, the IP 954 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 2: address comes back to Nigeria, I mean Nigerian day I 955 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 2: saw that ninety percent of the dating scams are Nigerians. 956 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 2: Right now, almost all the welfare fraud scams are Somalians. 957 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,319 Speaker 2: So it's like people who this is not new. You know, 958 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 2: when the Irish criminal gangs came to the United States, 959 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 2: there are certain kind of crimes that they specialized in 960 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 2: the mafia and the United States was into illegal gambling 961 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 2: and garbage contracts and hooking up with the teams. There's 962 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 2: various ethnic gangs tend to focus on various ethnic types 963 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 2: of crimes. But apparently the you would actually think that 964 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 2: somebody sitting in Nigeria would I have a hard time 965 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 2: using the lingo. I have some smooth talking American guy. 966 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 3: But. 967 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 2: Apparently they apparently they do. I want to talk for 968 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 2: a second about the Supreme Court ruling. It's a temporary rule. 969 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 2: It's not permanent. It's a temporary ruling saying that Trump 970 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 2: does not have the authority to send the National Guard 971 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 2: to Chicago. The vote was six to three, and when 972 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 2: it's sixty's three. It's all gonna be always because John 973 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 2: Roberts and Amy Barrett wander over to join the liberals. 974 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 2: And that's what this vote was. The four women plus 975 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 2: John Roberts voted to form the six. Samuel Alito had 976 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 2: a very strong descent. Now, I think that this needs 977 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 2: to be examined for just a moment. Here. Does the 978 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:42,920 Speaker 2: president have the authority to federalize the National Guard and 979 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 2: send them into an American city? It does, I grant 980 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court this. It does present significant constitutional questions 981 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 2: with regard to federalism, the rights of the state and 982 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 2: the rights of the executive. Constitution of the United States 983 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 2: limits the role of the federal government and reserves all 984 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 2: of the remaining powers of the states. So does a 985 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 2: president have a right to take a national guard of 986 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 2: a state and federalize it and use it for a 987 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 2: local operation when the local state doesn't want it? I 988 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 2: grant you It's a legitimate question. However, as Alito's point, 989 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 2: as Alito's descend points out, the reason Trump has sent 990 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 2: the National Guardian is to protect ice. One area that 991 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 2: is undeniably the responsibility of the federal government is immigration 992 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 2: and customs enforcement. That's not a state issue. ICE has 993 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 2: the right in every one of our states to conduct operations. 994 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 2: ICE agents are under attack, it would seem to me 995 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 2: that the President has the right to use the National 996 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 2: Guard to protect the lives of federal agents who are 997 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 2: being attacked and targeted where they're conducting their operations. If 998 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 2: Trump was sending in the National Guard for say, disaster relief, 999 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 2: when the individual state didn't want the disaster relief, maybe 1000 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 2: you can make the case that the president doesn't have 1001 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 2: the authority to do it. But in this case, the 1002 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,919 Speaker 2: President is using the National Guard for the purposes of 1003 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 2: a legitimate federal rule, which is customs enforcement. If ICE 1004 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 2: agents are under heavy fire and attack and the local 1005 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 2: police or the local state will not protect them, all 1006 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 2: that's left to protect them is other arms of the 1007 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 2: federal government, which would logically be the National Guard. And 1008 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 2: that's what Alitos descent said, that the President of the 1009 00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 2: United States has the right to protect federal employees when 1010 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 2: they are doing their duty in the same way that 1011 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 2: you could argue that let's imagine it was the Postal Service. 1012 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 2: It's a quaseg of an agency. Let's come up with 1013 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 2: a better word. The Census Department the Census Department is 1014 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 2: going neighborhood and neighborhood doing information to gather for the census, 1015 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 2: and these people were being attacked right and left. The 1016 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 2: President would have the authority to protect those census workers 1017 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 2: because they were conducting a legitimate federal activity. One of 1018 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 2: the components of Trump derangement syndrome is simply to turn 1019 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 2: Ice into Like in the minds of the left. The 1020 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:41,920 Speaker 2: naziss and the ICE agents have unbelievably dangerous jobs, aside 1021 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 2: from the fact that they're often going to grab extremely violent, 1022 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 2: dangerous criminals who realize that if they are deported, they're 1023 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 2: going to go to prisons in their home countries. So 1024 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 2: a lot of these people are armed themselves. You then 1025 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 2: have people out on the street that are targeting them 1026 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 2: them swell themselves. And while the ICE agents have a 1027 01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 2: right to be armed, there's certainly no match for a 1028 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 2: mob of eighty to ninety or one hundred, but a 1029 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,959 Speaker 2: well armed n National Guard might be. So it would 1030 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 2: seem to me that this is a legitimate role for 1031 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 2: Trump to be able to take. Now, if the Supreme 1032 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 2: Court ultimately comes down and rules that Trump is the 1033 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 2: right to send them in the problem with that is 1034 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 2: is that it'll be in the next term of the court. 1035 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 2: It's months and months and months away. In the meantime, 1036 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:23,439 Speaker 2: these operations are going on now. I think this does 1037 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 2: constitute an emergency. ICE needs protection, and in the states 1038 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 2: where the governor and the mayors refuse to provide police 1039 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 2: for protection and are allowing ICE agents to simply be 1040 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 2: targets for murder, I believe it is the legitimate right 1041 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,920 Speaker 2: of the President to consider that an emergency and act 1042 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 2: to protect them. We're going to do our football preview 1043 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 2: and football analysis coming up next on the Markedelling podcast. 1044 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 2: This is the Marked Beelling Podcast, and it's time for 1045 01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 2: a weekly football preview and some point spread analysis. I've 1046 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 2: got my for lot of American sports analysts with us. 1047 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 2: We normally record this podcast on Thursday, but Thursday was yesterday. 1048 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 2: That was Christmas Day, So here we are on Friday. 1049 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 2: And I mentioned that for those of you listening after 1050 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 2: the fact, that we will only be talking about games 1051 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 2: starting this Friday. My next football segment will be New 1052 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 2: Year's Eve Wednesday, not New Year's Day. So when we 1053 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 2: get to our point spread picks any game between those 1054 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 2: to be played this afternoon, which should be December twenty 1055 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 2: sixth through the games of December thirtieth would be fair game. 1056 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 2: Let's talk about some football for the weekend. The college 1057 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 2: football playoffs do not resume them until after our next segment, 1058 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 2: so none of the eight teams involved in a fight 1059 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,920 Speaker 2: for the national championship we're playing in this period. So 1060 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,520 Speaker 2: there's two other games that I pulled out that I 1061 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 2: thought were of interest to talk to Mike about before 1062 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 2: we get to the pros. And the first is Georgia 1063 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 2: Tech and BYU. I think these are two of the 1064 01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:01,440 Speaker 2: best teams that didn't make the playoffs. EYU had a 1065 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 2: very good season except when they played Texas Tech, to 1066 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 2: whom they lost twice. Georgia Tech and the ACC was 1067 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 2: very good team. They gave their arch rival Georgia in 1068 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,600 Speaker 2: a non conference game a really good fight. You know, 1069 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 2: in a lot of these ball games, the choices you 1070 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 2: have to look at see it who's opting out and 1071 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 2: which players are not going to play because the NFL 1072 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,120 Speaker 2: draft and the running of the transfer portal and so on, 1073 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 2: And you'll see that a lot in this case, though, 1074 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,520 Speaker 2: I believe most of the key players for both teams 1075 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 2: are going to be involved. Both coaches are still at 1076 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,360 Speaker 2: their schools, so there's a little bit of stability with 1077 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,919 Speaker 2: both teams. It's an interesting game. What are your thoughts 1078 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 2: on Georgia Tech and BYU. 1079 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, two solid teams. Obviously BYU finished the playoff rankings fourteenth, 1080 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 4: so they missed it by a couple spots. And as 1081 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 4: you mentioned, they're only lost this year. Their two losses 1082 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 4: were to Texas Tech. Other than that, they they swept everyone, 1083 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 4: so they had they played a really good schedule and 1084 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 4: had a good season this year in Georgia Tech. Similar 1085 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,360 Speaker 4: Georgia Tech had a couple of you know, losses that 1086 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 4: weren't great to NC State and I'm missing the other one, 1087 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:09,960 Speaker 4: but they also lost to George at the end of 1088 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 4: the season, which is their big game. Who comes to 1089 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 4: play in this game? 1090 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 3: As you said, b Yu. 1091 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 4: Are they out to prove It's a tough situation sometimes. 1092 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 4: Are they out to prove that they should have been there? 1093 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,120 Speaker 4: Or they flat because they didn't get in the playoffs. 1094 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 4: It seems to me from everything I've heard, and byus 1095 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 4: out to prove a point here. Everyone's gonna play, or 1096 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,760 Speaker 4: most guys gonna play. They do lose their running back, 1097 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,680 Speaker 4: but most of their key guys are going to play 1098 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 4: in this game. The Georgia Tech similar situation mark, but 1099 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 4: they have they have a little bit of coaching turnover there. 1100 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,560 Speaker 4: They lost their offensive coordinator and he took four assistance 1101 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 4: with him, so they have a makeshift offensive staff right now. 1102 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 4: For Georgia Tech, they were very good offensively this year, 1103 01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 4: fourteenth in total offense thirty three points per game. Should 1104 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 4: be a really good game. BYU has a much better defense. 1105 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,880 Speaker 4: Two good offenses should be a good to watch for sure. 1106 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,920 Speaker 2: The next game is involving two teams from major conferences 1107 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 2: that were both just below the top level in their conferences, 1108 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 2: but two schools that I think have most people know 1109 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,680 Speaker 2: a fair amount of at and that's the Tennessee and 1110 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 2: Illinois game. Illinois, of course, coach by Brett Beelamo, a 1111 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:23,920 Speaker 2: former Badger coach. Tennessee very good, they have been. There 1112 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,560 Speaker 2: were one notch below the very top of the SEC. 1113 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 2: Two very good teams. Maybe you can give us an 1114 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 2: indication of the transfer portal situation and so on. I 1115 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 2: believe Tennessee is favored in the game against Illinois. Illinois 1116 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,920 Speaker 2: is one of those teams that I recall earlier in 1117 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,560 Speaker 2: the year. I actually thought Illinois was going to beat Indiana. 1118 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 2: That was an early game of the season. That's before 1119 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 2: any of us had any idea that Indiana was. When 1120 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 2: Indiana turned out to be, they beat Illinois by like 1121 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,600 Speaker 2: fifty five points, and that was just that blew me away. 1122 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 2: And it's that was my light bulb over the head. Okay, 1123 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 2: Indiana isn't the old Indiana. Indiana is now Ohio State, 1124 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,560 Speaker 2: but it's still I think this, I think is a 1125 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 2: pretty good game. Tennessee and Illinois. These are two teams 1126 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 2: that never really were in the hunt for making the playoffs, 1127 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 2: but both had very good seasons. Give us your thoughts 1128 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 2: in this game. 1129 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, this line opened Tennessee six and a half and 1130 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 4: it's down to two and a half, So let's move 1131 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:19,600 Speaker 4: four points. I think the majority of the reasoning for 1132 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,880 Speaker 4: that as Tennessee. 1133 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 3: Does have quite a few opt outs. 1134 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,240 Speaker 4: They have at least five or six starters that are 1135 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 4: not going to play in this game, and it's possible 1136 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 4: more will opt out prior to the game. 1137 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 3: It's next Tuesday. 1138 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 4: There's still some up in the air there for Tennessee, 1139 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 4: and I think that's the main reason this line moved 1140 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 4: four points down. They also fired the game. 1141 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 2: And guys opt out for two reasons. Some opt out 1142 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,400 Speaker 2: because they're going into the NFL Draft they don't want 1143 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 2: to be hurt. And others are opting out because they're 1144 01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 2: planning to transfer and why get hurt before they get 1145 01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 2: off to their new school Already they're at the door anyway. 1146 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,680 Speaker 2: And I mean when you see in the case of 1147 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,000 Speaker 2: like say Mississippi and Lane Kiffin, when you see coaches 1148 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,920 Speaker 2: opting out when they're in the contention for the NA Championship, 1149 01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,520 Speaker 2: it's not surprising players are going to opt out, especially 1150 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,440 Speaker 2: when it's just a regular old bowl game, not headed 1151 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 2: to the national Championship. 1152 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it happens with all these lower chair bowl games. 1153 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,520 Speaker 4: You get guys opting in and out. And the crazy 1154 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,160 Speaker 4: part is Mark it's hard to It's really hard to. 1155 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,280 Speaker 3: It's hard to handicap these games. 1156 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,959 Speaker 4: First of all, because sometimes you have coaches that leave 1157 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,160 Speaker 4: and players plan and leaving and then they still play well. 1158 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,479 Speaker 4: Take a look at this year Ohio, Toledo, Washington State. 1159 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:32,960 Speaker 3: Their coaches are leaving. 1160 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,320 Speaker 4: And they played like they were in the Super Bowl. 1161 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 3: And then you got. 1162 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 4: Teams like South Florida and Memphis, same situation that never 1163 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 4: showed up to play. They didn't want to be there. 1164 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:40,800 Speaker 3: So hard to. 1165 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:41,920 Speaker 4: Handicap this situation. 1166 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,440 Speaker 3: Illinois, they're the craziest one. 1167 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,560 Speaker 2: Is what's going to happen with Michigan where their coaches 1168 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 2: go on not because he's leaving, because he's in jail. 1169 01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 2: You to talk about trying to figure out how a 1170 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 2: team is going to react to that, whether it's an 1171 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 2: emotional higher and emotional gosh, that's the bossing. The Ohio 1172 01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 2: situation was similar. He was fired for inappropriate behavior not 1173 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,960 Speaker 2: related to what they did on the football field as well. 1174 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 2: But you're right. I mean, one of my standards is 1175 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,040 Speaker 2: just if the team loses their coach, go against them 1176 01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,960 Speaker 2: in the ball game because they don't have stability. But 1177 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,080 Speaker 2: you're right. In some of these cases, the team seems 1178 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 2: to rally emotionally around the whole situation, the coach leaving, 1179 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,920 Speaker 2: and you're right. In other cases, the team just gets 1180 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,800 Speaker 2: crushed because they're metally a wall. 1181 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's hard to figure that out. I mean, 1182 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,920 Speaker 4: it's really hard to pinpoint what's going. 1183 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 3: To happen in those situations. 1184 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,040 Speaker 4: It really is bold bull game. I used to enjoy 1185 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,000 Speaker 4: handicapping Bowl games, they're really hard. I mean, the one 1186 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,439 Speaker 4: stable situation is the college football playoffs for the most part, 1187 01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,160 Speaker 4: I mean he had Kiff and leaving, But for the 1188 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:44,920 Speaker 4: most part, you have the players that they're playing, the 1189 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,320 Speaker 4: coaches are there. You're going to get their best efforts. 1190 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:51,040 Speaker 4: Everyone's in. Those are the best games to handicap these smaller, 1191 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,479 Speaker 4: chier games with you know, Tennessee opting out a bunch 1192 01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 4: of guys. Illinois has a few guys opted out in 1193 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,760 Speaker 4: this game too tough to handicap the line drop, So 1194 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 4: I probably lean in this game, Mark who wants to 1195 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,759 Speaker 4: be there. I would guess Illinois more so than Tennessee. 1196 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,760 Speaker 4: I would probably lean Illinois in this game, but I 1197 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,760 Speaker 4: don't trust Illinois, so it's the game we're probably not 1198 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 4: gonna use. 1199 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this is those games. And you've got 1200 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:17,400 Speaker 2: the people who bet huge amounts of money. They just 1201 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,480 Speaker 2: have their ears to the ground because these are opportunities 1202 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 2: if they know something that others don't. And as you say, 1203 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 2: some of these lines have moved violently, so if you 1204 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,640 Speaker 2: can get involved and get six or seven points. And 1205 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,200 Speaker 2: I think one of the games, I think Connecticut and Army. 1206 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 2: The game open with Connecticut favored, but whether Connecticut might 1207 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,160 Speaker 2: have even been favored or Army favored by one or two. 1208 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 2: And I think Army is now favored by nine and 1209 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 2: a half. But imagine if you would have bet Army 1210 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 2: before that line move, but you could now bet the 1211 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,920 Speaker 2: other way and win both sides with an eight point 1212 01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 2: middle in there. So I'm sure some other reason for 1213 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 2: the big line movement is You've got some people that 1214 01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,559 Speaker 2: bet a huge amount when they think that they know 1215 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,400 Speaker 2: something in games that otherwise don't attract a lot of attention. 1216 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,559 Speaker 2: But being the person that knows that stuff, hard to 1217 01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,160 Speaker 2: know who those people actually are. Let's turn our attention 1218 01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:11,840 Speaker 2: to the NFL. Also a unique situation in the NFL. 1219 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:16,759 Speaker 2: In the NFC, almost everything is already decided. The Packers 1220 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,879 Speaker 2: are in the playoffs. They clinched thanks to the Lions losing. 1221 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,040 Speaker 2: Green Bay's last two Seeds games of the season are 1222 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,280 Speaker 2: borderline irrelevant. They can still pass the Bears and win 1223 01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,519 Speaker 2: the division if they win their last two and the 1224 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 2: Bears lose their last two. I don't think where green 1225 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,720 Speaker 2: Bay plays Chicago is going to matter a hoot. I 1226 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,880 Speaker 2: don't know that home field matters much in the playoffs, 1227 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,880 Speaker 2: but you do have a team in which the game 1228 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,960 Speaker 2: is critical. Baltimore Ravens have to win. The Packers play 1229 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,680 Speaker 2: the Ravens Saturday night in Green Bay, Green Bay. As 1230 01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,640 Speaker 2: I say, I guess they would like to win, but 1231 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,560 Speaker 2: they don't need to win. They're in the playoffs. The 1232 01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 2: Ravens have to win. There's quarterback injuries on both sides. 1233 01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 2: Both Packer quarterbacks get banged out. It looks like they're 1234 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 2: both available, and it looks like Lamar Jackson will not 1235 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,439 Speaker 2: play for Baltimore. So the Packers are favored, but the 1236 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,960 Speaker 2: Ravens are the team that clearly need to win the 1237 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,240 Speaker 2: game more than the Packers. How do you size this up? 1238 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, these games, some of these games late in the 1239 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,880 Speaker 4: season NFL, I mean, are similar to the Bowl games. 1240 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,760 Speaker 4: Not I don't have a bunch of players opting out, 1241 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,000 Speaker 4: but I mean it's hard to handicap some of these games. 1242 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 4: As you mentioned, first of all, in the NFL playoffs, 1243 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,000 Speaker 4: there's fourteen teams in the playoffs. Eleven are decided already 1244 01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,639 Speaker 4: on the only situation we have yet is the AFC 1245 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,639 Speaker 4: North with Pittsburg or Baltimore. As you said, Baltimore has 1246 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,680 Speaker 4: to win if they lose their out, we've got the 1247 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,160 Speaker 4: NFC South Carolina or Tampa Bay is going to be 1248 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,760 Speaker 4: in and then there's one wild card left in the 1249 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,560 Speaker 4: AFC and it's either're gonna be Houston or in Indianapolis. 1250 01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,439 Speaker 4: So that's kind of where we sit playoff wise. You 1251 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,519 Speaker 4: mentioned Jackson's out in this game, they're going to play 1252 01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,920 Speaker 4: Tyler Huntly. I kind of agree with you, Mark, I mean, 1253 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,280 Speaker 4: the Packers have have so many injuries they be better off. 1254 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,080 Speaker 3: Just you know, win or lose this week. 1255 01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,920 Speaker 4: Just said everyone next week play having a bye game, 1256 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,760 Speaker 4: a bye week type of thing for them, because right 1257 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,559 Speaker 4: now it's looking like whoever wins the NFC North is 1258 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 4: probably going to be the two seed, not locked into that, 1259 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,240 Speaker 4: and whoever loses is going to be the seventh seed. 1260 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:16,080 Speaker 3: They're gonna play each other. 1261 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,679 Speaker 4: They're gonna play either in Chicago or in Green Bay. 1262 01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 2: I mean, chances are Green Bay is going to be 1263 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 2: the seventh seed, and what they do and e the 1264 01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 2: last two games probably wouldn't affect that. And you know, 1265 01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 2: Love coming off of a concussion and Hunley being a 1266 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:34,120 Speaker 2: little dinged up and not not Hunley Willis, Malik Willis 1267 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,439 Speaker 2: being a little dinged up. It makes you wonder why 1268 01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,519 Speaker 2: Green Bay would give it this focus. On the other hand, 1269 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,120 Speaker 2: I don't think Green Bay wants to go into the 1270 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,519 Speaker 2: postseason with three losses in a row, but the injury 1271 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,719 Speaker 2: concern is real. It just makes for a really weird game. 1272 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,840 Speaker 2: Another game the Bears in the forty nine Ers. Now, 1273 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:56,840 Speaker 2: both of these teams are in the postseason. However, both 1274 01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,679 Speaker 2: have an opportunity yet to win their division, which would 1275 01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,519 Speaker 2: mean home field advantage in the first game. The Bears 1276 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,160 Speaker 2: just need, without regard to what Green Bay does, win 1277 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,040 Speaker 2: one more game. The forty nine Ers are in the 1278 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:13,639 Speaker 2: most amazing division in the NFL. The NFC West has 1279 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:17,000 Speaker 2: three teams that are all not only vying to win 1280 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,439 Speaker 2: the division, but are vying to be maybe the best 1281 01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:24,680 Speaker 2: team in football. You've got Seattle, the Rams, and the 1282 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:28,479 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers, and they're all outstanding with tremendous records. 1283 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,200 Speaker 2: The Bears have to go out to San Francisco to 1284 01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,080 Speaker 2: play the forty nine Ers. The forty nine Ers are 1285 01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 2: favored by three points. Again, we're talking about motivation and 1286 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:39,960 Speaker 2: so on. It would seem to me that this game 1287 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 2: means a lot more to the forty nine Ers but 1288 01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 2: it doesn't mean a ton to either because both teams 1289 01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,479 Speaker 2: for certain are in and the case of the Bears, 1290 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,280 Speaker 2: they're likely to be the NFC North winner even if 1291 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,639 Speaker 2: they lose this game, and even if they lose next week. 1292 01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, another interesting game. In fact, just if the Packers 1293 01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:06,439 Speaker 4: lose on Saturday, the Bears won the division, right, So 1294 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,080 Speaker 4: that makes it just just for those of you that 1295 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 4: play these games, if you like San Francisco, I would 1296 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,000 Speaker 4: play San Francisco at minus three right now because if 1297 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 4: Green Bay loses that game, that line's going up. 1298 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:17,559 Speaker 3: Man. 1299 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:19,720 Speaker 4: If if it doesn't, it's set right now where it 1300 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:24,120 Speaker 4: should be. So just just an fyiy on that. Yeah, 1301 01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 4: interesting game. San Francisco. Actually, mark if they went out, 1302 01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 4: they're the number one seed in the NFC. 1303 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,479 Speaker 3: So if they win this week and. 1304 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,439 Speaker 4: Beat Seattle next week, they're the number one seed in 1305 01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,839 Speaker 4: the NFC. So they have quite a bit to play for. Still, 1306 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:40,720 Speaker 4: they're they're playing. 1307 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 3: Awfully with their offense. And for those of you who don't. 1308 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:47,720 Speaker 4: Follow this very close, San Francisco hasn't punted since November, 1309 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:50,200 Speaker 4: and I don't. 1310 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,080 Speaker 2: Think that that's like a Dan Campbell thing where you're 1311 01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,160 Speaker 2: just going to go forward and fourth down every play 1312 01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,080 Speaker 2: they haven't putted because they've not ever gotten to the 1313 01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,360 Speaker 2: point of fourth down in their own territory. Is that 1314 01:14:59,400 --> 01:14:59,840 Speaker 2: what it is? 1315 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,719 Speaker 4: They've had eighteen possessions their last two games. They scored 1316 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,320 Speaker 4: eighty five points in those games they sit out of 1317 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:11,400 Speaker 4: the eighteen possessions, They've had ten touchdowns, five field goals, 1318 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,839 Speaker 4: a miss field goal, an interception, and a fumble. 1319 01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,799 Speaker 3: That's it. Their last eighteen possessions. They're scoring on everyone. 1320 01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,080 Speaker 2: In fact, since so their punters only job for the 1321 01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,840 Speaker 2: last month is to hold for the field goals. 1322 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:26,800 Speaker 4: He means, Yeah, that's pretty much all he's doing since 1323 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,280 Speaker 4: Party came back from injury. Mark they're five to zero 1324 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,639 Speaker 4: straight up and against the spread, with winning all five 1325 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,799 Speaker 4: games by double digits. I think this sets up nicely 1326 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,759 Speaker 4: for them, as you said, especially if the Packers lose 1327 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,360 Speaker 4: on Saturday Night. I like San Francisco in this game. 1328 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:45,320 Speaker 4: I think they're the better team than Chicago and it's 1329 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,040 Speaker 4: a huge game for them at home, and they've been 1330 01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:48,080 Speaker 4: rolling on offense. 1331 01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:49,640 Speaker 3: I think the Bears have moved the ball because San 1332 01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,360 Speaker 3: Francisco's defense isn't very good. 1333 01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,200 Speaker 4: That's why the total set at fifty two and a 1334 01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,960 Speaker 4: half in this game, high scoring game. But I like 1335 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:57,080 Speaker 4: San Francisco in this game. 1336 01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:58,679 Speaker 3: I think they're going to win and cover in that game. 1337 01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,880 Speaker 2: Okay, some point spread picks. As I mentioned, Paul is 1338 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:04,280 Speaker 2: not with us this week, so he in fact, after prodding, 1339 01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,600 Speaker 2: he emailed his pick in and we'll share that in 1340 01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:10,760 Speaker 2: a moment. Let's recap the picks from last week. I 1341 01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,960 Speaker 2: had two college games that I absolutely loved. Mike agreed 1342 01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 2: with me on one and disagreed with on the other. 1343 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,559 Speaker 2: The second game, which unfortunately neither of us used as 1344 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,240 Speaker 2: our picks. We both liked Hawaii a lot on the 1345 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:27,360 Speaker 2: Christmas Eve Bowl game, and what a ridiculous game that was. 1346 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,680 Speaker 2: Hawaii fell down to California twenty one to nothing in 1347 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:34,800 Speaker 2: the second quarter and one, it came back and they won. 1348 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,720 Speaker 2: So we were both right about that. But it trure, 1349 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:39,840 Speaker 2: didn't I mean, from the middle of the second quarter 1350 01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,320 Speaker 2: on you saw that Hawaii was the much more motivated 1351 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,800 Speaker 2: and better team at the beginning of that game was 1352 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:46,720 Speaker 2: a really bad one. The pick that I used on 1353 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,320 Speaker 2: the air, though I took Arkansas State over Missouri State. 1354 01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,800 Speaker 2: They were favored by one. I thought they'd win by three. Touchdowns. 1355 01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:54,920 Speaker 2: They didn't. It was a much closer game than that. 1356 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 2: They won by six, But I won on that pick. 1357 01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:02,000 Speaker 2: Paul took the Eagles over Washing to win by seven 1358 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:06,640 Speaker 2: or more and they won by eleven. And Mike had 1359 01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,280 Speaker 2: a wrong pick on the Lions. We need to talk 1360 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:12,439 Speaker 2: with the Lions in a moment. The Lions just had 1361 01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,960 Speaker 2: a collapse of a season. Detroit not only lost that 1362 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 2: game to Pittsburgh, they then lost on Christmas Day to Minnesota. 1363 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:25,000 Speaker 2: Detroit is out of the playoffs now. The Commanders have 1364 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,559 Speaker 2: had the biggest decline of any team in the NFL. 1365 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,120 Speaker 2: They went from the NFC Championship Game to being one 1366 01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,679 Speaker 2: of the worst teams in the NFL. I think Mike 1367 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,479 Speaker 2: and I at the beginning of the season both thought 1368 01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,759 Speaker 2: that Detroit would take a step back after they lost 1369 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,439 Speaker 2: both of their both their offensive and defensive coordinators. But 1370 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,639 Speaker 2: this is a team Detroit that fell apart down the stretch, 1371 01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,639 Speaker 2: even though the visually they didn't appear to be playing 1372 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 2: that badly. So not only did did Mike not right 1373 01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,360 Speaker 2: last week in a game that they simply had to 1374 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,840 Speaker 2: win against the Vikings, they couldn't beat them. I mean, 1375 01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,280 Speaker 2: before we get to our picks. Any quick thoughts on 1376 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,479 Speaker 2: Detroit and why don't fill apart on him? Is it 1377 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,519 Speaker 2: injuries again or is it Campbell was in over his 1378 01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,639 Speaker 2: head without his coordinators or do you have any thoughts here? 1379 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,800 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, first of all, we had Detroit was in 1380 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,400 Speaker 4: a perfect situation in the last couple of weeks, them 1381 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,439 Speaker 4: coming off losses, they just win and cover those games, 1382 01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,280 Speaker 4: and they're just Detroit's not that great this year. I mean, 1383 01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:25,320 Speaker 4: I think it shows you Mark. You know, they lost 1384 01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,880 Speaker 4: their coordinator, Johnson to the Bears. Look at the Bears 1385 01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,240 Speaker 4: are fight for the number one seed and Detroit's out 1386 01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,200 Speaker 4: of the playoffs. I think that tells you how important 1387 01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,840 Speaker 4: he was to that team. And since Campbell took over 1388 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,040 Speaker 4: the play calling midway through the season, they just haven't 1389 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,040 Speaker 4: been all that great. I think they're and I've heard 1390 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,639 Speaker 4: they've got a lot of cap issues now. I think 1391 01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,120 Speaker 4: they've had their window. I think Detroit's going to keep 1392 01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:47,960 Speaker 4: declining start next year. 1393 01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,080 Speaker 2: Well, I do too, And I think that the whole 1394 01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,960 Speaker 2: mystique of Campbell is just over whatever the decision is. 1395 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,120 Speaker 2: He's just going to do whatever the bold and aggressive 1396 01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,360 Speaker 2: things is, and the opponents know what and what Mike 1397 01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,080 Speaker 2: was saying, with regard to coordinators, look at the difference 1398 01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:06,640 Speaker 2: Jeff Hafley has made at Green Bay. I mean the coordinator, 1399 01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:10,280 Speaker 2: particularly when the coordinator coordinates the area of football that 1400 01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:14,200 Speaker 2: the head coach is not part of. You know. For example, 1401 01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,280 Speaker 2: in Green Bay, Lafleur runs the offense, so Halfley has 1402 01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:21,120 Speaker 2: total control over the defense. Okay, let's get two picks 1403 01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:25,719 Speaker 2: for this week. Paul Texan his pick here, which emailed 1404 01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:30,920 Speaker 2: it in without giving any explanation. Dave Michaels is shaking 1405 01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,960 Speaker 2: his We know Paul forgot about this. He's claiming he 1406 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,080 Speaker 2: just no, no, no, I'll get it into you by noon. 1407 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,880 Speaker 2: He's taking the Steelers over the Browns. The Steelers are 1408 01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:41,920 Speaker 2: favored in the game. Paul says three. I want to 1409 01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,320 Speaker 2: look up the line real quickly. I think that's where 1410 01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:48,519 Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, this is an interesting game. The Steelers 1411 01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,839 Speaker 2: are favored by three points over the Browns. The Steelers 1412 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:58,080 Speaker 2: are still fighting to win the AFC North Division. The 1413 01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:02,559 Speaker 2: Browns can't seem to be able to beat anybody. The Browns, however, 1414 01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,320 Speaker 2: have the best defensive player in the NFL, Miles Garrett, 1415 01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,799 Speaker 2: who's having a freak out of a season, the Lions 1416 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,000 Speaker 2: are excuse me, the Steelers are becoming the team now 1417 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,920 Speaker 2: that wins all the close games that Aaron Rodgers' magic back. 1418 01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,360 Speaker 2: It would scream out that the Steelers should win this 1419 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,360 Speaker 2: game by fourteen points. But it must be telling us something, Mike, 1420 01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,479 Speaker 2: that this is such a narrow point spread of only three. 1421 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,120 Speaker 2: Is Paul taking a sucker bet here? Or is he 1422 01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,040 Speaker 2: getting the steal of a lifetime. I'd love to hear 1423 01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:29,080 Speaker 2: your thoughts in this game. 1424 01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,840 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I wouldn't play this game till 1425 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,960 Speaker 4: Sunday because if Baltimore loses. 1426 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,959 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh's is gonna sit guys, I would guess. 1427 01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,679 Speaker 4: Because they won the division, that game's over. 1428 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,799 Speaker 2: You think that's moly down holding down the line. Baltimore 1429 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,600 Speaker 2: is an underdog and the betters realize that if Baltimore 1430 01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,880 Speaker 2: does lose, Pittsburgh's a bad team to bet on, and 1431 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:51,120 Speaker 2: that's what's holding it down. 1432 01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:53,800 Speaker 4: I think that might have something to do with it. 1433 01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:57,800 Speaker 2: So if Baltimore won, Pittsburgh's line pointspread might go up 1434 01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:58,479 Speaker 2: and they might be fair. 1435 01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,599 Speaker 4: Might I don't think it's going to go up that much, 1436 01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,439 Speaker 4: to be honest with you, I think it'll come down 1437 01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:08,519 Speaker 4: more if Baltimore loses than the other way around. I 1438 01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:12,599 Speaker 4: mean Cleveland. You know, late in the season, bad teams. 1439 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,040 Speaker 4: If they're going to get up for a game, it's 1440 01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,519 Speaker 4: a home game against a division rival, and that's what 1441 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,920 Speaker 4: Cleveland's probably going to do in this game. They took 1442 01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,200 Speaker 4: Buffalo to the wire last week, lost by three at home. 1443 01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,719 Speaker 4: Their defense at home is phenomenal. Their defensive road splits 1444 01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,519 Speaker 4: at home and away are ridiculous. They're not good on 1445 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,719 Speaker 4: the road, they're great at home. 1446 01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:32,280 Speaker 3: It's just a game I would not. 1447 01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,400 Speaker 4: Play until Sunday morning, and then it's probably too late 1448 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:35,120 Speaker 4: because the line's going. 1449 01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:35,920 Speaker 3: To move one way or the other. 1450 01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:39,880 Speaker 2: Well maybe that's whereas all right, time to get a 1451 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:41,759 Speaker 2: pick from Mike. Where are we going? We've got NFL 1452 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,920 Speaker 2: games and again we're doing this program on Friday, meaning 1453 01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,400 Speaker 2: the Saturday through Monday games in the NFL, or any 1454 01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,559 Speaker 2: of the Bowl games through Tuesday night. 1455 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,000 Speaker 4: Let's look at well, one of the Bowl games we 1456 01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,800 Speaker 4: talked about for tomorrow BYU Georgia Tech. What do you 1457 01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:58,320 Speaker 4: have on that the line on that game? 1458 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,280 Speaker 2: My sheets of lines are all fouled up because of 1459 01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:11,200 Speaker 2: all these things are scheduled. But I'll get there. Yeah, 1460 01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:16,120 Speaker 2: b YU and Georgia Tech. That I didn't mention. That's 1461 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,599 Speaker 2: the Pop Tarts Bowl. I don't know where that one is. 1462 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,479 Speaker 2: It's b YU is favored by four. You know where 1463 01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,639 Speaker 2: that game which you used to be would know where 1464 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,360 Speaker 2: the game was being played for the name now with 1465 01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:27,880 Speaker 2: just sponsors names on the game could be anywhere. Where 1466 01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:28,920 Speaker 2: is the Pop Cards Bowl. 1467 01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:30,799 Speaker 3: It's in Orlando, Florida. 1468 01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,760 Speaker 2: Oh, it's in Orlando, Okay. Georgia Tech and b y U. 1469 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,240 Speaker 2: B YU is favored by four in that game, which 1470 01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,480 Speaker 2: is an afternoon game on Saturday. 1471 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,559 Speaker 4: I'm going to take I'm going to take BYU minus four. 1472 01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,920 Speaker 4: Got a couple more points in that game that I 1473 01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:52,719 Speaker 4: didn't mention. What we like looking at in these type 1474 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,000 Speaker 4: of games is when you get to the balls, a 1475 01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,160 Speaker 4: lot of times you like eliminating the bad teams. We 1476 01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,439 Speaker 4: look at the how these teams to do against other 1477 01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,640 Speaker 4: Bowl teams, so decent teams. 1478 01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:03,799 Speaker 3: So this year. 1479 01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:07,719 Speaker 4: BYU played against seven Bowl teams, Texas Tech twice. 1480 01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,000 Speaker 3: Those are their only losses against Bowl teams. 1481 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,439 Speaker 4: Against the other teams if you re moved Texas Tech, 1482 01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,479 Speaker 4: there were five and zero straight up in against the 1483 01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,200 Speaker 4: spread and outgained all five teams. If you look at 1484 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:21,200 Speaker 4: Georgia Tech, they played against six. They played six bowl teams. 1485 01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,360 Speaker 4: One was a playoff team Georgia They were three and 1486 01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,400 Speaker 4: three in the bowl games. They got out gained in 1487 01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,599 Speaker 4: all six games. They're lucky to be three and three. 1488 01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,920 Speaker 4: The other thing I like in this game, I don't 1489 01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:36,200 Speaker 4: like the coaching turnover for Georgia Tech. As I mentioned 1490 01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:37,759 Speaker 4: the opposite. 1491 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,240 Speaker 2: I mean BYU's coach Sataki. He was rumored to be 1492 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,720 Speaker 2: up for a lot of jobs and he stayed with 1493 01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:45,840 Speaker 2: a big pay. BYU has a lot of money, in 1494 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:49,360 Speaker 2: part because of the Mormon alumni backing and supporting the program. 1495 01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:53,160 Speaker 2: Hughge Nil. Their coaches in all sports included football, basketball, 1496 01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,400 Speaker 2: are well paid. Sataki is staying, so there's total and 1497 01:23:56,520 --> 01:24:00,280 Speaker 2: they that's a school that has very few transfer issues. Ever, 1498 01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:04,439 Speaker 2: I think there's tremendous stability at BYU on the coaching 1499 01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,360 Speaker 2: staff and therefore for the game. And maybe you were 1500 01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,200 Speaker 2: about to say that, but I think that would point 1501 01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:08,960 Speaker 2: to BYU. 1502 01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, agree, one hundred percent. I mean again, Georgia Tech's 1503 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,759 Speaker 4: lost a bunch of offensive assistants. Everyone's there for BYU. 1504 01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,479 Speaker 4: They're missing their running back, but pretty much everyone else 1505 01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,719 Speaker 4: is around. The other thing I like about this game 1506 01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,920 Speaker 4: is Georgia Tech's biggest game of the year is Georgia. 1507 01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:25,599 Speaker 4: Every year, it's the biggest game of the year. It's 1508 01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,080 Speaker 4: the season finale. They took him to the wire. I 1509 01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,160 Speaker 4: watched the game. Georgia look completely disinterested because they had 1510 01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,120 Speaker 4: Alabama next in the SEC championship game. 1511 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:35,559 Speaker 3: They still won the game. 1512 01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,880 Speaker 4: Georgia did and Georgia Tech when they lose in their 1513 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:40,920 Speaker 4: last game of the season to Georgia and go to 1514 01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:42,000 Speaker 4: a bowl game, they're one and. 1515 01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:43,599 Speaker 3: Seven the last times they've gone. 1516 01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:44,240 Speaker 2: To both ball against. 1517 01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,200 Speaker 4: And that's a good thought, and so I just think 1518 01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:49,920 Speaker 4: BYU's out to prove a point, it's a fairly small line. 1519 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,760 Speaker 4: I think they win by more than four in that game. 1520 01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,120 Speaker 2: I've got the same problem that I have last week, 1521 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,559 Speaker 2: in which there are two games that I like a lot, 1522 01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,120 Speaker 2: and I also know that my probably going to disagree 1523 01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:02,599 Speaker 2: with me on one of the two and agree with 1524 01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,839 Speaker 2: me on the other two. And I've just been wrestling 1525 01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:12,080 Speaker 2: which one to take, and this I just have the 1526 01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,200 Speaker 2: sense that I'm probably going to pick the wrong one 1527 01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:15,920 Speaker 2: and be wrong in the game that I'm taking here. 1528 01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,439 Speaker 2: I'm still trying to decide, all right, I'm going to 1529 01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,519 Speaker 2: go with a safer pick rather than the one that 1530 01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,559 Speaker 2: I like a little bit more because there's some risk 1531 01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,519 Speaker 2: associated with it. The game that I the game that 1532 01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,439 Speaker 2: I'm not going to take is I like San Diego 1533 01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,799 Speaker 2: State catching five and a half points against North Texas. 1534 01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:36,000 Speaker 2: This is you can't have two more opposite teams. You 1535 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,280 Speaker 2: could imagine here. North Texas had one of the best 1536 01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,800 Speaker 2: offenses in America and San Diego Stated one of the 1537 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:45,320 Speaker 2: worst offenses in America. North Texas defense is terrible and 1538 01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:49,200 Speaker 2: San Diego State had a spectacular defense. The difference is 1539 01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,400 Speaker 2: is that North Texas quarterback is out. North Texas's coach 1540 01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,439 Speaker 2: has left and go on to Arkansas, and there's going 1541 01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:58,360 Speaker 2: to be numerous opt outs on the game. The line 1542 01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:01,720 Speaker 2: moved up because San Diegego State's quarterback is injured and 1543 01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:04,280 Speaker 2: isn't going to play. But the reality is he isn't 1544 01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:07,040 Speaker 2: any good. So no matter who the quarterback is at 1545 01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,080 Speaker 2: San Diego State, the play wasn't going to be that good. 1546 01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,880 Speaker 2: I just would lean toward San Diego State's defense and 1547 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,760 Speaker 2: the weather's going to be terrible for that game in Albuquerque, 1548 01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,519 Speaker 2: but I'm not going to take I think you would 1549 01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,920 Speaker 2: have told me to take North Texas, but I like 1550 01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:21,880 Speaker 2: San Diego State, but that's not my game. I don't 1551 01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:23,839 Speaker 2: know if you want to give me what your opinion 1552 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:24,519 Speaker 2: was going to be on. 1553 01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,320 Speaker 3: That, but sure, no, I agree. 1554 01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:29,400 Speaker 4: I the one downside in that game for Sandy. I 1555 01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,599 Speaker 4: agree with the San Diego State really good defense. North 1556 01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:36,120 Speaker 4: Texas has way more instability with coaches leaving and such, 1557 01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:38,800 Speaker 4: but a really good offense. But the quarterback's gone. As 1558 01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:40,760 Speaker 4: you said, the one thing I don't like in that 1559 01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,439 Speaker 4: game for San Diego State, and this is something we 1560 01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:47,559 Speaker 4: like tracking as And before I do this, I'll preface 1561 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,880 Speaker 4: really quick. We use Hawaii as a big play as 1562 01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:51,080 Speaker 4: one of our top games. 1563 01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my second night, second favorite play of 1564 01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,200 Speaker 2: the year. My first biggest player of the year was 1565 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:58,160 Speaker 2: Arkansas State. So I mean sitting there with my family 1566 01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,640 Speaker 2: on Christmas Eve, trying not to make it like I 1567 01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,439 Speaker 2: care what what's going on in a bet on a 1568 01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,559 Speaker 2: football game, but what a weird and wild. 1569 01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:06,960 Speaker 4: Game when that was it was, we were lucky. 1570 01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,479 Speaker 3: We use it as a six star and we want it. 1571 01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:10,439 Speaker 3: The problem I. 1572 01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:13,960 Speaker 2: Have thirding quarterback for Hawaii in that game went down 1573 01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,040 Speaker 2: with fifteen seconds left in the game. They're down by three. 1574 01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,200 Speaker 2: They could have easily run a running play and kick 1575 01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,560 Speaker 2: a field goal to take it overtime and stead the 1576 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:25,400 Speaker 2: backup quarterback goes back and makes a pass into tight 1577 01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,400 Speaker 2: coverage in the end zone and dropped a dime on 1578 01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,880 Speaker 2: that receiver. It was a great pass and they hit 1579 01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:32,400 Speaker 2: it and they won the game. You're talking about a 1580 01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,639 Speaker 2: thrill for that guy. But most coaches would not take 1581 01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:38,599 Speaker 2: a completely cold quarterback pluck him in that situation and 1582 01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:40,679 Speaker 2: take that play call. But it worked. 1583 01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,200 Speaker 3: It was crazy. It was a crazy game. 1584 01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,439 Speaker 4: The thing I don't like about San Diego State is 1585 01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:47,559 Speaker 4: the Mountain West has not been good and look him 1586 01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:49,519 Speaker 4: in the playoffs. The two teams that made the Mountain 1587 01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,080 Speaker 4: West championship UNLV and Boys, he. 1588 01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:53,920 Speaker 3: Both got both bowl games. 1589 01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,800 Speaker 4: Utah State lost big in their bowl game to a 1590 01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:58,160 Speaker 4: team that had the. 1591 01:27:58,240 --> 01:27:58,960 Speaker 3: Coach was gone. 1592 01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:00,920 Speaker 4: A lot of stuff like that and why you got lucky. 1593 01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,439 Speaker 4: So that's the one thing I don't like about that game. 1594 01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:05,439 Speaker 3: But I think i'd lean San Diego State Yon. 1595 01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:07,320 Speaker 2: All right, Well, it's not going to be my pick anyway. 1596 01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,439 Speaker 2: I'm going to the game two higher profile teams. LSU 1597 01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,960 Speaker 2: is playing Houston. Houston in that game is favored by 1598 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:18,200 Speaker 2: two and a half points, and I'm going to take Houston. 1599 01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,679 Speaker 2: LSU fired Brian Kelly, the coach early in the season. 1600 01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:27,559 Speaker 2: LSU's offense underachieved all year. They're in the ball mostly 1601 01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,840 Speaker 2: because they won their first four games of the season. 1602 01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 2: They went three and five down the stretch. In addition 1603 01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,160 Speaker 2: to that, Nussmer, their quarterback, who is highly touted when 1604 01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,240 Speaker 2: he came over there, he's opted out of the game. 1605 01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,759 Speaker 2: He's not playing. There's opt outs right and left for LSU. 1606 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,519 Speaker 2: The LSU is where Lane Kiffin is going to be 1607 01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:45,400 Speaker 2: taking over as the head coach. But you've got a 1608 01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:49,639 Speaker 2: skeleton staff of holdover some Kelly staff that are coaching 1609 01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:53,960 Speaker 2: for the bowl game, numerous players missing. Houston has total stability. 1610 01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,600 Speaker 2: First of all, Houston has a really good coach in 1611 01:28:56,640 --> 01:29:00,000 Speaker 2: Willie Fritz. It's his second year here. He turned around 1612 01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,320 Speaker 2: a crap program instantly. They went four and eight last 1613 01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:05,040 Speaker 2: year in his first year, and this year they went 1614 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,280 Speaker 2: nine and three. Really really improved. They have a very 1615 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,479 Speaker 2: good qu I won't say great, but very good quarterback 1616 01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,960 Speaker 2: and Connor Wegman, You've got Houston coming out of the 1617 01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:17,400 Speaker 2: Big twelve, LSU coming out of the SEC. Houston has 1618 01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:22,000 Speaker 2: a chance for a ten win season. And LSU's players. 1619 01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,120 Speaker 2: You know, when Kiffin gets there, he's going to bring 1620 01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,559 Speaker 2: in eighty five guys to the transfer portal. He's going 1621 01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:30,760 Speaker 2: to bring in his entire staff, the LSU players. I 1622 01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,280 Speaker 2: just don't see any sense of motivation. I think it's 1623 01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:36,120 Speaker 2: a strong situation for Texas. I think the person in 1624 01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,920 Speaker 2: LSU would be better, but they're going to have so 1625 01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,080 Speaker 2: many opt outs. And Houston, as I say, has a 1626 01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:44,280 Speaker 2: really good coach. And one other thing I think this matters. 1627 01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:47,240 Speaker 2: I like to look up what coaches records in ball 1628 01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,960 Speaker 2: games are, especially if they've been at multiple schools. And 1629 01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,479 Speaker 2: Willie Fritz's four and one in ball games and he 1630 01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,400 Speaker 2: was at a lower division school prior to going to 1631 01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,040 Speaker 2: Georgia Southern and he had a good record in postseason 1632 01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,519 Speaker 2: games then too. So I think everything points to Houston. 1633 01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,599 Speaker 2: It's a so's it's a safer pick, unlike my San 1634 01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:06,000 Speaker 2: Diego State pick, where I would be getting points, which 1635 01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,439 Speaker 2: I just love. In these little profile ball games, I'm 1636 01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:09,880 Speaker 2: having to lay two and a half here, but I'm 1637 01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,600 Speaker 2: taking Houston over LSU, and Mike, You're gonna shock me 1638 01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:13,559 Speaker 2: if you tell me I'm wrong. 1639 01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:19,040 Speaker 4: No, I agree games in Houston too, so that's correct. 1640 01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,680 Speaker 2: And again I just think there's motivation for Houston can 1641 01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,880 Speaker 2: win season kind of playing at home. They weren't in 1642 01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,120 Speaker 2: a ball game I think for two or three years 1643 01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,960 Speaker 2: prior to this, and LSU what a train wreck of 1644 01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,880 Speaker 2: a situation where everything's just waiting for Kiffin in next year. 1645 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:37,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree their coaches, their their interim coach is 1646 01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:39,720 Speaker 4: probably not going to be there, so the coaches are 1647 01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:42,479 Speaker 4: looking elsewhere. The other thing I like that you didn't mention. 1648 01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:45,880 Speaker 4: You mentioned Wegman, their quarterback for Houston's is going to 1649 01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:47,920 Speaker 4: play in this game, and he's announced he's coming back 1650 01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,800 Speaker 4: to Houston next year already, so that that's a big. 1651 01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:51,360 Speaker 3: Boost as well. 1652 01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:54,240 Speaker 4: I agree there's a reason Houston's favored over LSU in 1653 01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:55,920 Speaker 4: that game, so I would agree with you. 1654 01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,200 Speaker 2: Okay. Our next football preview and points stret Picks will 1655 01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:02,640 Speaker 2: be on New Years that's Wednesday of next week, and 1656 01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,439 Speaker 2: my next podcast will be on Monday. 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