1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Now from the Star Rentals Sports to us your ninety 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,159 Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM sports headlines. 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: All right, boys and girls, here we go. 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 3: Happy Friday headlines right here on ninety three three KJRFM, 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 3: brought to you and you only by our friends at 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 3: Frostbrood cors Lie. 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: Choose chill, baby, cannot you didn't eat it? 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: That's appropriate after what we saw last night, Holy Cow, 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: the Seahawks where they thirty eight to thirty seven overtime 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 3: win against the Rams, now twelve and three and in 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: control of their own destiny baby, for the NFC's number 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: one seed. 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We got college basketball tonight, by 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 3: the way, you dub and Seattle you at Climate Pledge 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: Arena eight thirty tip off pregame eight o'clock tonight right 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: here on ninety three three KJRFM and the Kraken I 20 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: a four to two loss to Calgary last night, the 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: boys now one, nine and one in their last eleven games. 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: They'll be at San Jose tomorrow six thirty pre game 23 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 3: seven o'clock. Face off right here, ninety three to three KJARFM. 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 3: A right, Hugh Milan rejoins us here on the radio 25 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: program A Football Friday, brought to you by our friends 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: at Tito's Handmade Vodka, proud sponsor of the Seahawks, distilled 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: in bottle by Fifth Generation Incorporated at Austin, Texas, forty 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: percent alcohol by volume. Savor responsibly. Hugh Milan rejoins us, So, Hugh, 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 3: I want to get to the two point conversion. That 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: was a backwards pass. Get your thoughts on that in 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: a second. But dude, there's a large portion of that 32 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: game that we're watching where Mike McDonald is getting whipped 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: by Sean McVeigh. What is your thought process as you're 34 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: watching that go down and what happened in the second 35 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: half and fourth quarter and over time with that game 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: to stop the bleeding? 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: Well, it was it was really I would say, poor rush. 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: I thought the Rams were outstanding both from a physical standpoint, 39 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: h just winning on their pass blocking, and then also 40 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: from a communications standpoint, sorting out the blitzes. They they 41 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 2: did a really good job in pit blitz protection. And 42 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: to put put it into context, the Seahawks for the 43 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: entire season have given up seven completions to opposing quarterbacks 44 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 2: over forty yards. Seven four of them were last night, 45 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: and and you know they're all of a different variety. 46 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: I mean, uh one, Puco Nico on fifty eight yards, 47 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: this was a fire zone at two deep four under. 48 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: I think the Seahawks were way out of position. They 49 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: were they had emon worry denying access to the tight 50 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: end eighteen the Oregon kid and Ernest Jones squeezing over 51 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: to him. Ferguson ran and the slot to the right, 52 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: Puka had nobody over him. He was just working on 53 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant. So you get fifty eight yards. I think 54 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: they were absolutely denying access to the wrong guy and 55 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: allowing free access to the wrong guy as well. So 56 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: another cover two early on fifty four yards you look 57 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: at and Ernest Jones would be the culprit. But this 58 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: was beautiful anticipation by Stafford concept some people call clipper, 59 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 2: which is corner leads post. Anyways, you had Nikua going 60 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: into the post against the cover two and the guy 61 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: who you would want to have more depth is Ernest Jones, 62 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: maybe Drake Thomas. He's a little shorter, but just a 63 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: since you're an MVP level anticipation and throw on that. 64 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: And here's the thing about Matthew Stafford. He when he 65 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: throws inbreaking routes to the right side of the field, 66 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: he does this no look thing where his eyes are 67 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: over like on an analog clock. Say he's looking at 68 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: one thirty and he's throwing to twelve thirty. So he 69 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: really moves guys, and Pooka. Pooka had of his catches. 70 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: He had one hundred and ninety eight yards on the 71 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: right half of the field. If you just dissect the 72 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: field right down the middle, one hundred ninety eight yards 73 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: to the right, twenty seven to the left, and for 74 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: the entire game, Stafford had three hundred to the and 75 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: eight to the right one hundred and forty nine to 76 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: the left, so more than double. So he's worked in 77 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: the right side of the field most of mostly in 78 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: breaking routes. We had a guy on earlier who said, 79 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: you know from NFL network, who said that they killed 80 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: Seattle with crossing routes. I don't know what game that 81 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: guy was watching, So you gotta be careful for some 82 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: of the analysis that we hear right on our station. 83 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: But in breaking routes, yes, but but not nobody would 84 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: describe those as crossing routes because that means you catch 85 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: the ball on the opposite side of where you lined 86 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: up of the ball that didn't happen. But then then 87 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: third and nine on, oh, Kobe Bryant and witherspo on 88 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: a third and nine after remember after Canine busted that long? Yes, uh, 89 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: you know, and so Seattle's up all of a sudden, inexplicably, 90 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 2: You're up fourteen to thirteen. You had no rights to be, 91 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: but you get them. You get the rams in a 92 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: third nine like momentum, and they hit you for forty 93 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,559 Speaker 2: eight yards. Kobe Bryant and Witherspoon do a terrible job 94 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: of communicating on a on on a on a crossing 95 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: a deep cross, not crossing route, but the criss cross 96 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 2: kind of a switch release, a deep switch release, kind 97 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: of like what I said with Clipper anyway, without a napkin, 98 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: it's a little hard to describe, but the point is 99 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: Bryant and Spoon couldn't communicate, and at one point Witherspoon 100 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: did a complete one or three sixty, whatever you call it. 101 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: He spins back to the sideline and the guy is 102 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: going inside of him. They were just totally bamboozled in 103 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: the last one in overtime a dagger concept where you're 104 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: the tight end clears out and you're bringing an inbreaking route, 105 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: a deep d route by Pooka Nakua. 106 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: Uh. 107 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 2: There Seattle was in a three deep zone. And and 108 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: in that one Ernest Jones, he's the hook defender. He'd 109 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: be the guy that you'd want to get you have 110 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: him enough depth. So there's a variety of the breakdowns. 111 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: What happened at the end they started playing more coverages 112 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: instead of like country zone where you just go to 113 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: a certain spot and the quarterback. They did more pattern 114 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: matching where they're looking at the receivers within their zone 115 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: and then and then and then just you know, an 116 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: eyeball on the receivers more than on the quarterback. And 117 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: then they played some coverages a forty three under where 118 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: it's a zone, but you have manned principles within his 119 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: zone underneath, and so there's it was just stickier and 120 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: in that regard, and uh, there was a there was 121 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 2: a man to man where Pooka beat Witherspoon on a 122 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: corner route. There's damn good coverage outside leverage. I mean, 123 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: Witherspoon is exactly where you want to be. But you 124 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: just had, you know, the MVP of the league throw 125 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: a an elite MVP throw this is late in the 126 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: fourth quarter to get them out to midfield and and Pooka, 127 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: you know, making an incredible catch. So so sometimes you 128 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: got to give them credit for good on good. But 129 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: when they when they clamped it up, they ran, they 130 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: did have they did break a free runner I think 131 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: it was em and Worry, and so they hadn't had 132 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: a lot of success, so that happened. They ran a 133 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: couple of stunts, they had Leonard Williams get after him. 134 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, those things that I'm describing 135 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: at around midfield stopped the rams and forced the punt 136 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: and you know, obviously allowed them to win. But but yeah, 137 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: a lot going on. Here's the thing I like you 138 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: talk about the matchup McVeigh and McDonald. They've played now 139 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: to this year, they played one hundred and twenty seven minutes, right, 140 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty seven minutes of football the Rams 141 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: have scored fifty eight points to see have scored fifty seven. 142 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: The Rams have a mass eight hundred and thirty yards, 143 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: the Seahawks have a mass eight hundred and twenty nine. Right, 144 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: they are with a one in each of those, So 145 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: they are playing dead even, but you know where they're 146 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: not dead even. The Rams have one turnover and the 147 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: Seahawks have seven. In a way, you could talk yourself 148 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: into we play these guys again. First of all, I 149 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: believe in Mike McDonald's adjustment. He's proven it to me 150 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: after the Buffalo game and after the Tampa Bay game, 151 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 2: so I believe that he's gonna have an adjustment. And 152 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 2: so they've basically in two games played dead dead even. 153 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: I mean, this is like a photo finish, like you 154 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: have to go to the camera to see who's winning. 155 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: And that's with Seattle losing the turnover battle seven to one. 156 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: You just kind of get that thing close, and you 157 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: could talk yourself into, Hey, I like our chances we 158 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: play them again. 159 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, Hugh, I'm looking at the last Uh, there's 160 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: a couple of things that stand out. First of all, 161 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: thirty thirty after the crazy wacky backwards pass that technically, 162 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: if you look at the official play sheet, goes down 163 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 3: as a rush for Zach Charbonnay, right, which is crazy 164 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: to think about that. That's just how the NFL does it. 165 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: So thirty thirty and you kind of tend to forget 166 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: now looking back, that there was still six and a 167 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 3: half minutes left to go in that game. There was 168 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: plenty of time for the Rams to go back and 169 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: win that game. They obviously had three drives, they punted twice, 170 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: they had the missfield goal on one of them, and 171 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 3: I'm looking at Matt Stafford. If I would have told 172 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 3: you yesterday morning, Matt Stafford is going to have the 173 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: ball first and ten from the RAM forty nine with 174 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 3: a Buco two left to go in a tie game, 175 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: you would have bet your money on what happening. 176 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: You would have bet your money on the Rams winning 177 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: the game. Yeah, based on what had had transpired. I mean, 178 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: the dude had four and fifty seven yards pass. 179 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: Right, But you would have bet your money yesterday more 180 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: on Matt Stafford finding a way to at least get 181 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: a field goal attempt off and win the game. And 182 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 3: from that point on, from first and ten from the 183 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 3: RAM forty nine with a bucko two to go, which 184 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 3: is a freaking eternity. He goes oh for three. So 185 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: you talked earlier about Sam Darnold stepping up on the clutch. 186 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: How about the defense stepping up in the in the 187 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: clutch with sixty two seconds left to go facing Matt Stafford, who. 188 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: Might be the MVP. Yeah. I didn't do a good 189 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: job of articulating that. That's that's what I was referring 190 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: to when I said, Okay, what happened when they clamped 191 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 2: down after that? Got it around? 192 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: Ye? 193 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, my fam you know, they they you know, they 194 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 2: just played, as I said, uh, a little bit more 195 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: pattern match zones and and man man and uh, you know, 196 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: they ran some stunts, they got they got better pressure. 197 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 2: They did get one free runner that that forrest and 198 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: airant and and then uh, you know when you play 199 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: a forty three under, you're you're matching. You know, Drake 200 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: Thomas has to match the zone. I don't like that 201 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: matchup from Seattle's perspective, the tight end, and I think 202 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: it might have been on Parkinson, but Stafford, you don't 203 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: picked the bad time to have a bad throw. Now, 204 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: it wouldn't have been for a lot of yards, but 205 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 2: he missed a couple of throws late. You know, he 206 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: tried to do that no look thing. Any any sky 207 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: milled on a on a what's called a hammer concept 208 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 2: or some people call it rap where you have a 209 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: hitch and then you want to get pooka in like 210 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 2: about twelve yards in behind the hitch. It's a it's 211 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: a it's tough on zone coverage. Uh, Seattle was real 212 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: sticky on that. I think Drake Thomas kind of got 213 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: a better feel as the game went on about where 214 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: he needed to be and uh and he was right there. 215 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: Stafford tried to do one of those no looks and 216 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 2: and it just sky mailed. So so they they they 217 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: finally got the the uh you know, got a feel 218 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 2: for it. But I mean, you're right, think of you 219 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 2: just look at the Rams drives, Dave So so after 220 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: the first drive of the third quarter when they scored 221 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: a touch down, at that point it went the Rams 222 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: went punt, punt, punt, missfield goal punt until the touchdown 223 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 2: to Nicoula. I just described on that dagger concept. So 224 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: so there was a portion there where they definitely, uh 225 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: you know, sh showed some signs of like, look you 226 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: give the nod if there if this is like you're judging, 227 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 2: you're judging this like a boxing match, like ten point 228 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 2: must and and there's been three rounds, uh because and 229 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot more between Sean McVay and 230 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: Mike McDonald they in it. I'm throwing out the last week, 231 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: Week eighteen of last year, right the the Geno Smith 232 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: six million dollar game, like you know, garbage game, lete, 233 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: farce of a freaking football game. Embarrassment anyway, Sorry. 234 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 3: Wow, I never's been What bothers you more of that? 235 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: Or the fact that Russell Wilson has made nine Pro 236 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 3: Bowls in his career or whatever it is? 237 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I need to see a therapist because 238 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 2: I'll get I'll my hard drive will get uh frozen 239 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: if if I try and contemplate an answer to that one. 240 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: But by three three last year in Lumen, right, then 241 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: this year down in so Far, and then this year 242 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: in Lumen three rounds and the first one, if you're 243 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: if not talking about the teams, the first one goes 244 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: to Mike McDonald because there were seven three and outs 245 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 2: by the Rams. This is what we're talking about a 246 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: year ago, and they only scored thirteen points in regulation. 247 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: Remember that was the one hundred and six yard pick 248 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: six by Gino. Then the second one this year also 249 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: went to Mike McDonald because the Rams had their lowest 250 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: yardage output of the entire season against the Seahawks, Sam 251 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: Donald excuse me, Stafford only had one hundred and thirty yards. 252 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: So after two games it was McDonald two and McVay zero. 253 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: I said it was a ten point must you get it? 254 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: Was like, I get it, Yes, I get it. But 255 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: night McVeigh. McVeigh won it. Even though the Rams lost it. 256 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: It makes sense, you know. So it's it's fun to 257 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: watch and I can't wait for the next adjustment. 258 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: Well, I think we got to come back and spend 259 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: some time on the backwards pass that was Zach Charbonay. 260 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: Your take on well, I I mean, my god, I mean. 261 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 3: I didn't even know what the hell was going on, 262 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: to be honest with you, I don't think anybody else 263 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: did either, including Charbonay. By the way, all right, so 264 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: we'll come back and talk about that because that is 265 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: going to be you know here. I don't know if 266 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: you believe in like destiny and karma and things like that. 267 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: But after not scoring a touchdown against the Colts a 268 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: week ago, and then after what happened last night, down 269 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: sixteen points in the fourth quarter and Zach Scharburnay just 270 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: picking up that football just to give it to a 271 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: referee and it turns out to be worth two points. 272 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: That was obviously imperative for them. It's it's it's easy 273 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: to wonder if there's a bigger plan for this football 274 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: team this season. 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There is a wrapped 282 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: bottle underneath the Christmas tree at my house right now. 283 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's a gallon of Tito's, by the way, 284 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 3: so I might just have to crack that sucker open 285 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 3: when I got home tonight. 286 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: Man Hugh Millen rejoined us on the radio program. So 287 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: before we get to to Knika now no no, no, 288 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: no no. 289 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: Before we get to your thoughts on the two point 290 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:10,479 Speaker 3: conversion the backwards bass I was picked up by Zach Sharbonney. 291 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: I want to hear Mike McDonald's thoughts on that play 292 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: last night that obviously tied the game at thirty thirty. 293 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: The head end up playing by sharbon incredible pick ever, 294 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: every lose ball just simple. You see anything quite like that? 295 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: I have not as a ball's going backwards. What was 296 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: the process on that for deciding to actually have the replay, 297 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: for asking for the replay and realizing that maybe it 298 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: was a lateral. Well, just to my knowledge, everything's reviewable 299 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: on a two points. So at what point did you 300 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: realize that your staff realized that was mackword who that 301 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: was in play? 302 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, they just they said they were looking at 303 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: it and then so then we started to look at 304 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: whether it was a backward or not. 305 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: We didn't. 306 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: We didn't notice it. 307 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: In real time. 308 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: So that's the thing is that nobody noticed it, not 309 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: even Zach Sharbonnay and I love Zach Sharboney, Well I 310 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: don't love him, I like him. But the idea that 311 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: we got to give Zach Charboney credit for being you know, 312 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: heads up play by Zach Sharbonay. 313 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: I mean, dude, yeah he was. He was picking up 314 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: the ball to give it to the official. Okay, I 315 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: totally agree. I was thinking that earlier. The guy just 316 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: being courteous. It was like holding a door open when 317 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: when you get the Starbucks, you know you see a 318 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: woman coming. Oh, just waiting a couple of seconds. Yeah, 319 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: he was just being polite. That's just just nailed it. 320 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 3: And thank god because if Jack Charboney, if Zack Charboney 321 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: was an a hole and didn't give it to him 322 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 3: and wanted to make the old man bend over and 323 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 3: get the ball, the Seahawks don't win the game. But 324 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 3: you're joking, but you're right, like Zack Charboney's giving blankets 325 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: to the homeless, and we just won a football game because. 326 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 2: Of it, exactly exactly. 327 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: So you talked me through because what I saw, uh 328 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: live did not register in my brain whatsoever. And then 329 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 3: you go back and you watch the overhead shot that 330 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 3: Amazon show and it was a clear backwards past. 331 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, if you're expecting me to come off 332 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 2: like I'm some Johnny football and I was like it 333 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: was a backward bath. Get No, No, I didn't. I didn't. 334 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: I didn't recognize that as a potential. I was just 335 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: as asleep at the wheel as everybody else. I don't. 336 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: I hope I would have been as considered as as 337 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 2: Zach Sharberonnay, But I couldn't say for sure. I would 338 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: be like, I don't. I got nothing for you, Dave. 339 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: I'll just say this, it's extraordinarily rare. We know that 340 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: it's lucky as hell. I mean that if that ball, 341 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: think of about you gotta you gotta a spheroid ball, 342 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 2: you know, hitting a sphere helmet, right, and like think 343 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: of all the angles of how that ball could have 344 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: bounced off of a helmet. And it's just anybody who 345 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: says that wasn't luck, come on, come on, that was 346 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: pure blind football gods, thank you. How about this? How 347 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: about this? 348 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: How about if Zach Charbonne had walked over to the 349 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: ball thinking the play was dead and like frustration and 350 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 3: just like kicked it whatever, yeah and I'm done kick it. 351 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 3: And nobody in that in that moment would have even 352 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 3: batted and high if Zach Charbonne had done that. 353 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: But you know what's cool. Is it just adds to 354 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 2: the legend of this game. This is you know, the 355 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: term instant classic applies. This is you know, we'll be 356 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: talking about this five ten, you know some people, you know, 357 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: twenty years from now. I mean that that is one 358 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: of the most remarkable games in Seahawk history. I mean, 359 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: I would just ask you what's more remarkable. You can say, well, 360 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: the NFC Championship overcoming five picks right right, they're from candidates. Look, 361 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 2: the stakes weren't the highest Seattle or anybody else's, you know, 362 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: as ever played. I get that stake stakes are pretty high. 363 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: And and think of think of the odds. If you 364 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: just say, I got to look them up. I could 365 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: look up down to the decimal point. What what the 366 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 2: the two point con rate is? Let's just say it's 367 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty, Okay, you know, just the idea that 368 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 2: when you're down sixteen, you got to get two touchdowns 369 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 2: and to two point conversions. Right, you're you're there's only 370 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: a twenty If it's fifty to fifty, you only got 371 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 2: a twenty five percent chance of getting two, you know, 372 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 2: let alone all the other I mean, you just you start, 373 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: you know, compounding these probabilities in it, and that's where 374 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: you get your one point four percent. I think it's 375 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 2: less than that because that wise that you know, one 376 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: out of you know eighty, you know eighty or whatever 377 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: it is. Uh, situations like that you could actually win. 378 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 2: I don't feel like you come back and win one 379 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: out eighty. 380 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 3: Those Well, I'm looking at the box score from last night, 381 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: and again, I know you kind of talked about this 382 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: last segment about how McVeigh was just whipping McDonald and 383 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, you know, talked in the pregium about this, 384 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: and man, I got I don't know if Devonte Adam 385 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: Adams being out is going to be that big of 386 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: a deal for the Rams. And they scored thirty seven 387 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: points on one of the best defenses in the NFL 388 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 3: without the guy, for God's sakes, But it is frustrating, 389 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: Hugh when you see a guy like Devontae Adams out 390 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 3: of the game and Pukin Nakua is still running wild 391 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: on your defense. Twelve catches, two hundred and twenty five 392 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: yards and a couple of touchdowns on sixteen targets. I 393 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 3: mean you kind of hinted it why that was last segment, 394 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: but does Mike McDonald go back to the film room 395 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 3: today and ask himself, how does my defense allow Pukainakua 396 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 3: to be that productive with Devontae Adams standing on the sideline. 397 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: I don't think he wonders. I don't think it's a 398 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 2: mystery to him. I think that what the Rams did 399 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: is they they showed you. They just held up the 400 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: mirror and they showed you where you are at this 401 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 2: juncture with how to handle an elite offense, and it's 402 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: not good enough. And I think Mike McDonald, by his nature, 403 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: if you can't tell the last couple of years, I 404 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: love the guy. I mean I'm I'm as in the 405 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: bag for Mike McDonald as I could possibly be. But 406 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean I think he's perfect. I'm in the 407 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: bag for Tom Brady, but Tom Brady threw interceptions. I mean, 408 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: he this this was a bad game for Mike McDonald. 409 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: I think that he is self aware and egoists enough 410 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: to realize it. And what I love about one of 411 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: the things I really like about the guy is that 412 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: that he can make those adjustments like he did after 413 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: the Buffalo game, like he did after Tampa. I don't expect, 414 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: you know, that that thirteen personnel. You know, they they 415 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 2: tried that down in so far they only had two 416 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: point seven yards per tempt yesterday. They just they just 417 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: creased him. And Seattle did have a lot of injuries 418 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: with the second like three different guys heard in the 419 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 2: secondary at some point, right, Eamon Worry and Riek Wollen 420 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 2: And who's the other one? Did we have one other 421 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 2: injury in the secondary? Oh yeah, there were three of them. 422 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: It was Kobe Bryant got hurt, right, yeah. So and 423 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: and here's another thing now that this is this is 424 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 2: kind of a strange topic to bring up in this market, 425 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: But I'll just be candid with you. I don't have 426 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: evidence to support any assertion, so I'm not going to 427 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: assert anything. This is just me wondering, is what is 428 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: the thing that you hear with Mike mcconnalllly says their 429 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: emphasis that he uses components, that these things that are 430 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: vital to his his defense. And haven't you heard him 431 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 2: use the word communication tons right? Doesn't We can find 432 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: a lot of sound bites if we went back and 433 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 2: hunted of communication communication communication. Is it possible that that 434 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: the twelves in some you know, unintended way created a 435 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: little bit of problem with their communication. I don't, I can't. 436 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: I can't make that claim. All I can tell you 437 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 2: is that makes me wonder. You know, look at how 438 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: good they are on the road defensively, right, So you 439 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: just it was loud as hell on there last night. 440 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: Ude. 441 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. When I see Kobe Bryant and and Witherspoon, you know, 442 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: failing to pass off on a pretty routine uh, you know, 443 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: down the field switch concept and Witherspoon's turn into three sixty, 444 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,719 Speaker 2: I'm like, what that's not that's we got to get 445 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: a nickname for this defense. But the Dark Lost said, 446 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 2: it's the the dark Side is totally fine. 447 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 3: I mean I kind of threw out the baby boomers, 448 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 3: you know, Uh, first you had the LB and now 449 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: you have the babies of the l B, the baby. 450 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 2: Boomers, I mean you know, are you baby boomers? Yes? 451 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 3: Or instead of LB, it's the s obs, the sons 452 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 3: of Boom, right. I mean that that works as well. 453 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: So you better run that by long. 454 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, But if he wants the dark Side, I'm totally 455 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 3: cool with that. It's a little too raider ish for me, 456 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: a little bit. The dark Side, right, just because the 457 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 3: whole you know, Star Wars Vader thing down there and 458 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: in Vegas and with the Raiders. 459 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, of course you would. 460 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: You've seen millions of photos of Darth Vader at Raider 461 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 3: games over the years. 462 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 2: Come on, we'll get a break. 463 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna break, all right, little text amonials here 464 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: next uh five o'clock hour, brought to you by Duke's Restaurants. 465 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: Lindsey Theory from ESPN will join us to run five 466 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: point forty five as well for a RAMS perspective on 467 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 3: this game, Little fun with audio at five point thirty. 468 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 3: All coming up on ninety three three kJ RFM