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Speaker 1: Dive yesterday, of course with retired Lieutenant colonel getting an

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Speaker 1: whole legal issues which are the genesis of Senator Paul's criticism. Look,

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Speaker 1: the Iranian administration hanging protesters. Now there's also been reports

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Speaker 1: a second. Inside Scoop with Bright Part News financial editor

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Speaker 1: John Carney on some really good news. Price of gasoline

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Speaker 1: looking good, I suppose it depends on where you look.

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Speaker 1: Very confusing world we live in when you can go

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Speaker 1: doing his job. Some people's were it was that Scott

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Speaker 1: Adams said, you know, we're looking at life as if

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Speaker 1: It just depends on your interpretation of what the actual

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Speaker 1: That's one, of course, the whole ICE. Do you agree

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Speaker 1: And then affordability, it's a difficult one to get around.

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Speaker 1: Democrats seem to be getting away with the argument about affordability,

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration, massive inflationary reality brought about by that.

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Speaker 1: Of course, something's completely out of political hands. How can

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Speaker 1: And Gavin Newsom is waking up to this reality in California.

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Speaker 1: idea of taxing billionaires and taking five percent of everything

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Speaker 1: noting that this proposed billionaire tax, with them leaving and

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Speaker 1: They continue to pay the highest prices for a gallon

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Speaker 1: Why is that that's a regulatory reality? A dollar twenty

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Speaker 1: Chuck Ingram. Welcome to the studio and happy Wednesday to you.

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Speaker 1: Northbound I seventy one closed due to a semi crash

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was in the eleven o'clock hour round eleven

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Speaker 3: I don't know how long that will take to clean up,

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Speaker 1: Sure, Well, the details on the fuel spill were very sparse.

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Speaker 1: so maybe several hundred gallons as opposed to thousands of gallons.

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Speaker 3: Correct, There's nothing like that to deal with this morning.

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Speaker 3: So hopefully that will mean that before your show is done,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna have the highway open again. What I'm really

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Speaker 1: Mean they paid attention overnight, yes, exactly, because the detour

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Speaker 3: But I was really surprised there's not even a delay

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Speaker 1: Well let's hope it is out of the way. Otherwise

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Speaker 3: Nothing like that. You won't you won't need a tank

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Speaker 4: I got a little, uh paper cut while I was

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Speaker 1: Can I say the city said, well, actually, they would

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Speaker 4: So you know, I'm going to go out on a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the the marvels of modern technology. So, speaking of

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Speaker 1: But I mean remodeling the remodeling the said building. Apparently

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Speaker 4: are not proving that this stuff works. I know, you

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Speaker 4: are actually proving that it doesn't work exactly. You're you're yeah,

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Speaker 4: and by the way, you did not use legal immigration.

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Speaker 4: You were you were whatever doing illegal immigration. You you

435
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Speaker 4: were incentivizing it illegal immigrants. Oh, you're you're in this country,

436
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Speaker 4: you're in this state illegally. I'll here's some money. That's

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Speaker 4: not proving that legal immigration works. You knucklehead, You're a liar.

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Speaker 4: You are exacerbating, as you use the word a lot,

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Speaker 4: you are making the problem worse. You are creating the

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Speaker 4: problem for or for one thing, and then you're just

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Speaker 4: making it worse. And then you're like, oh, we need

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Speaker 4: everybody's money to solve the problem.

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Speaker 5: No you don't.

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Speaker 4: You're just going to continue to make it worse. Why

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Speaker 4: after lie after lie, And that's what Democrats do. That's

446
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Speaker 4: that's how they roll, That's how they get in office.

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Speaker 4: They lie to you, that's how they stay in office.

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Speaker 4: They continue to lie to you. And then all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden, oh my gosh, well look at the situation

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Speaker 4: we're in. Yeah, you know why because all you people

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Speaker 4: out there keep voting for Democrats. This is why we're

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Speaker 4: in the trouble we're in. Please stop, don't vote Democrat.

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Speaker 1: Have a great you do the same time. And if

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Speaker 1: you look at the the the welfare still I'll use

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Speaker 1: the word welfare, go ahead criticize me. The welfare state

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Speaker 1: of justice Somali community in Minnesota. I mean, the statistics

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Speaker 1: have been fore and widespread. A tremendous percentage of the overall,

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Speaker 1: not all local peng with a broad brother saying, every

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Speaker 1: Somali person in Minnesota is on welfare, but the vast

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Speaker 1: majority of them are recipients of some of the multiple

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Speaker 1: government programs that take handouts. Is that the recipe for

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Speaker 1: success putting more people on the taxpayer dollar doll No,

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Speaker 1: it's not. This is the increase in population and a

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Speaker 1: greater expense of the taxpayers of the state. And I

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Speaker 1: would argue the federal government five thirty six. Right now,

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Speaker 1: if you five kr CD talk station, get in touch

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Speaker 1: with the Chimney Care Fireplace in Stove locally owner and

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Speaker 1: operated talk station five forty two. If if you five

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Speaker 1: kr C the talk station, shout out to my submarine

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Speaker 1: or friend Curbage Mike, who let me know about fifteen

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Speaker 1: to ten minutes ago that the little tunnel was back open,

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Speaker 1: said he had read it, he heard it elsewhere. So

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Speaker 1: there you go. Confirmation. You should be in decent shape

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Speaker 1: by seventy one north. No more wreck to clean up

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Speaker 1: in the little tunnel, absent phone calls, which we are, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to deal it to the local stories. I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry the stack is stupid. Forget what I'm diving on.

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Speaker 6: Into as this tradition.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Joe, I appreciate the vote of confidence. Marion County, Florida.

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Speaker 6: As this tradition.

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Speaker 1: News release survey surveillance footage showing mom in a Marion

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Speaker 1: County dere Shriff's deputy shot inside his cruiser. Incident happened

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Speaker 1: when deputy stopped Rihanna Harden, twenty two years old, on

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Speaker 1: highway for forty one, initially arrested for possession of methan fetamine, marijuana,

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Speaker 1: drug paraphernalia, and providing a false idea, as well as

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Speaker 1: driving with a suspended life. While being transported to the

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Speaker 1: Marion County jail, Harden, who was handcuffed in the back

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Speaker 1: seat of the patrol vehicle, managed to slip one hand

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Speaker 1: out of her cuffs, opened up the plexiglass partition between

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Speaker 1: her and the deputy corner to the rest STAFFI David.

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Speaker 1: Footage apparently from inside the car shows Hardened removing her

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Speaker 1: visor and covering the rear seat camera before producing a

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Speaker 1: handgun concealed in her clothing and then firing multiple shots

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Speaker 1: through the partition. Why are you doing that? Because the

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Speaker 1: deputy apparently didn't sufficiently search her before putting the back

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Speaker 1: of the cruiser. My first reaction, Deputy returned fire. The

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Speaker 1: vehicle eventually crashed into a utility bowl. Both hardened and

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Speaker 1: the deputy sustained non life threatening injuries, taking an area hospitals.

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Speaker 1: The corner of the Sheriff's office revolver with six spent

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Speaker 1: shell casings werecovered at the scene near where Harden was

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Speaker 1: removed from the vehicle. She ended up receiving an additional

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Speaker 1: charge no kidding of attempted first degree murder of the

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Speaker 1: law enforcement officer. Idiots doing idiot things because there idio is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know that's double idiots. I hate to be critical

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Speaker 1: law enforcement officers, but she was able to conceal conceal

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Speaker 1: a revolver on her person. Joe, any questions about where

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Speaker 1: she might have been stowing that thing? You think prison

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Speaker 1: perse what's all right? I end this segment there. We

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Speaker 1: got a couple of more coming up. You can chime

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Speaker 1: in if you want. Uh first cover Seedy Talk station.

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Speaker 1: It's five fifty here fifty five Kara City Talk Station.

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Speaker 1: Very Happy Wednesday to been remiss and not mentioning beyond

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Speaker 1: can cob or FLP President Joint program at six thirty.

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Speaker 1: Everybody gets one point four to five million dollar check

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Speaker 1: if they sue the City. Big Picture with Jack Adaman

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Speaker 1: coming up at seven zero I filed by Donvan and

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Speaker 1: Eil The Return of Americans for Prosperity DONVD and Eil

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Speaker 1: calling out the Democrats for using the affordability rhetoric, which

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Speaker 1: I pointed out in connection with my comments about California.

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Speaker 1: You know, affordability can be dealt with if you don't

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Speaker 1: put economic regulations and rules and limitations and pursue green

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Speaker 1: agenda and let the market forces work themselves out. But

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Speaker 1: we can't have that in California. Congressman Thomas Massey, where

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Speaker 1: are the Epstein documents? Great question? The latest anti Massy

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Speaker 1: Trump tweet he's after Congressman Massey government shut down. We're

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Speaker 1: going to get one of those. Plus Venezuela in Iran,

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Speaker 1: plus Judge Enninapolitanos. Certainly irking many of my listeners today.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to see what mister cribbage Mike's got my

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Speaker 1: submarine or friend, welcome back. It's always great to hear

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Speaker 1: from you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Brian.

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Speaker 7: I guess Chuck shitting and jinks himself by no backups

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Speaker 7: due to light a ton of and now we got

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Speaker 7: on because.

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Speaker 2: Of the weather.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay for at least it's not an overturned semi absolutely.

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Speaker 7: Hey, you know there's all different ways.

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Speaker 1: That's a stretch tracker.

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Speaker 2: Come on, hey, he gave me a good tip.

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Speaker 7: Give him a break.

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Speaker 1: Ah See, we can go to a down depending on

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Speaker 1: what you say.

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Speaker 7: Well, this is a stack of stupid segment, So I

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Speaker 7: guess it's all all is fair in love and war.

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Speaker 7: There is a lot of way for politicians to get elected,

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Speaker 7: and you would hope the best way is for what

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Speaker 7: they can do to their area and their constituents. But

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Speaker 7: clearly what's been on display here is of late in

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Speaker 7: Minnesota as far as locking down that voting block, by

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Speaker 7: all the fraud that everybody just turned a blind eye to,

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Speaker 7: and what we have going on here locally now to

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Speaker 7: lock down a greater voting block within Hamilton County basically,

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Speaker 7: especially what Signal ninety nine spouse last Friday, what mayor

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Speaker 7: emeritus Iris Rolie is being able to run this city

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Speaker 7: with an iron grip, all the money that is flowing

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Speaker 7: out there, you know, basically with her contract, her T

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Speaker 7: shirt deal that her husband got her, what her son

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Speaker 7: got you know. And that's just what we know. Who

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Speaker 7: knows what else is going on. And now these payouts,

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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't even want to dare use the

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Speaker 7: R word, but it is almost like borderline reparations, you know,

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Speaker 7: as far as let's let's take these things to trial

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Speaker 7: and let the chips fall where they may, because if

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Speaker 7: we already know the money is going to go out

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Speaker 7: the door, I'll take my chance in court.

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Speaker 2: And if that's what.

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Speaker 7: They're hanging her hat on with this latest one point

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Speaker 7: four or five billion and a million, excuse me. And

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Speaker 7: if we have any doubt that the other gentleman is

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Speaker 7: probably going to get his payday, let alone on top

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Speaker 7: of the other paydays that are coming for the police

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Speaker 7: chief and the fire chief. When you look at the

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Speaker 7: track record when they were up for election, there should

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Speaker 7: have been no way in the world that anybody on

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Speaker 7: council or that mayor should have been re elected. But

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Speaker 7: they already got locked down a greater majority of the

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Speaker 7: voting block because of all the money that is pouring

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Speaker 7: out of Plump Street. And when I could not I

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Speaker 7: almost fell off my chair. When you had Charlie lukean

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Speaker 7: on the end of a day in my sixty nine

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Speaker 7: and a half years a walk in this arch when

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Speaker 7: have you ever heard a politician or a group of

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Speaker 7: politicians that had a stack of money and it's not

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Speaker 7: spending it.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, remember there was spent. And then, in

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Speaker 1: the words of the city managers spokes fashion the person,

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Speaker 1: there's money allocated.

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Speaker 7: You know, they don't know what to do with it.

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Speaker 2: We're incompetenty or you know.

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Speaker 1: The greater response from my perspective would have been, you know,

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Speaker 1: we have allocated, and here are the programs and the

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Speaker 1: amount of allocation we have assigned to them, so we

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Speaker 1: at least would know what programs that are that are

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Speaker 1: under consideration. The fact that the money's allocated only means

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Speaker 1: that it hasn't been in and they haven't entered into

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Speaker 1: a formal contract and shovels haven't broken the ground. The

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Speaker 1: money has not been spent, the allocations have not been

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Speaker 1: formally approved yet. But I I'm curious to know what

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Speaker 1: specifically it is they're going to that they're going to

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Speaker 1: prioritize and prioritize in terms of the money that's already

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Speaker 1: come in. Big mystery swirling around around that one.

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Speaker 7: I bet you that's a very small list, because this

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Speaker 7: goes back to the Obama administration. Look how many shovel

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Speaker 7: ready jobs that were there out there? How much of

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Speaker 7: the broadband Internet was supposed to be done? What about

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Speaker 7: the high speed rail train in California. It's easy to say,

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Speaker 7: put words out, but they can't produce anything because it's

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Speaker 7: the I word, not independent and competent. And as I

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Speaker 7: mentioned before the last time I called, when you asked

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Speaker 7: my ten years of working the elections here in Claremont County,

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Speaker 7: I have one thousand percent faith in our election system

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Speaker 7: here in Ohio, everything that's been set up, all the

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Speaker 7: stop measures, even though that we have voting months, so

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Speaker 7: Independents and Republicans in Hamilton County, this is just as

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Speaker 7: much on you when I see turnout like that that

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Speaker 7: you cannot complain. We have the ability, it's all right

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Speaker 7: in front of you. If you don't vote, this is

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Speaker 7: what you get. To quote a famous Christopher Smithman, elections

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Speaker 7: have consequences.

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Speaker 1: Amen. Couldn't set it better myself. So I appreciate my

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Speaker 1: listeners calling in and chiming in and letting us know

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Speaker 1: how they feel. And I certainly love hearing from you.

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Speaker 1: Cribbage Mike, Look for are you going to be there?

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Speaker 1: February fourth at the ron ZERUS for a cribbage game bockstation.

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Speaker 1: It's six six at five KRC the talk station. Very

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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday to you all right, Thomas and VII. You

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Speaker 1: stick around all morning, get some great guests, as is

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Speaker 1: the case typically here in the morning show. From my perspective, anyway,

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Speaker 1: thanks to Joe Strecker for lining them up. Executive producer

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Speaker 1: Joe Strecker Ken Kober at the bottom of the hour,

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Speaker 1: apparently everyone in the city's going to get money from

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Speaker 1: the city. Just sue them. You got an officer involved issue,

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Speaker 1: Just sue the city one point four to five million.

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Speaker 1: The most recent settlement they've appear to be getting ready

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Speaker 1: to enter into. A council needs to approve it, and

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Speaker 1: at least the one council person on record has said yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to approve it. Big Picture with Jack adad

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Speaker 1: and coming up at seven oh five, The Price of Purity,

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Speaker 1: followed by Donald and Neil AFP Americans for Prosperity calling

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Speaker 1: up the Democrats for using affordability rhetoric. Going back to

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Speaker 1: my comments about you know and you impact affordability or

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Speaker 1: are there affordability problems brought about by government intervention? And

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Speaker 1: I would argue it's the latter is the biggest problem.

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Speaker 1: You can't control necessarily the price of eggs, but you

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Speaker 1: can have a tremendous impact on the price of old

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Speaker 1: I don't know, refining gasoline for example. Anyhow, Donovan at

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Speaker 1: seven thirty two hours eight oh five with Congressman Thomas Massey.

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Speaker 1: Where in the hell are the Epstein files? I'm curious

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Speaker 1: latest on the anti Massey Trump tweet. Trump going after

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Speaker 1: Congressman Massy yet again. The government's shut down heading our way,

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Speaker 1: this time apparently over funding for ICE. Yeah, would we

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Speaker 1: be okay with shutting the government down because the Democrats

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Speaker 1: want to defund ICE? That's the thing, plus Venezuela and

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Speaker 1: Iran if we can get it all in before we

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Speaker 1: get the judge in Inapolitano and assault of the Republic again,

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Speaker 1: having another go at Donald Trump. Just the heads up

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Speaker 1: on that one. I know it, you know it, Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: No huge fan of or Nepolton. I'm a huge fan

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Speaker 1: of Donald Trump. He's got specific reasons for that, and

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Speaker 1: that's what we're going to talk about him with. You

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Speaker 1: can field agree to feel free to agree or disagree

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Speaker 1: as long as the juices of thought are stirred, which

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Speaker 1: is and what was that? Joe? Oh yeah, And don't

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Speaker 1: take it out on Joe, Lord Almighty. Joe has no

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Speaker 1: control over what the judge does. Neither do I, and

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Speaker 1: I always pointing out to bring him on. As controversial

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Speaker 1: as you may be, from time to time, it gets

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Speaker 1: the intellectual juices flowing. Things that make you go hmm,

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Speaker 1: things that sharpen your argument to the contrary. That's the

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Speaker 1: great thing about having someone on who doesn't agree with you.

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Speaker 1: This is why I comment all the time. Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: take democrats on. We'll take candidates for Democrat offices. Go ahead,

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Speaker 1: bring it on. Silence usually is deafening with the request

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Speaker 1: being sent out. So there's your rundown for today. Let's

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Speaker 1: head it over to the phones real quick here New Hampshire, Gary,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Morning Show. Happy Wednesday, sir, Hey,

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Speaker 1: good morning, Brian.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 8: I want to say, first.

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Speaker 2: Of all, you're in my prayer, thanks man.

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Speaker 1: You know tomorrow I start the treatments back up, and

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Speaker 1: I presume you're talking about like cancer treatments. And I

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Speaker 1: try to keep people involved because I want people to

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Speaker 1: take care of their health and health and it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: What you go into the doctor's office thinking is a

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Speaker 1: minor thing can turn out to be cancer, which was

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Speaker 1: my case. So you know, so I got five years

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Speaker 1: out of the last treatment, total remission, and now they

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Speaker 1: the liftotes pop back up. So tomorrow I find out, Gary,

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Speaker 1: I got to sit there in the treatment room. Are

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Speaker 1: you ready? Six hours? Six? So I'm not thrilled about that,

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Speaker 1: but you know what, I recognize it could be a

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Speaker 1: lot worse. If I was in some other country. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't even have the availability of the cancer agents they're

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Speaker 1: going to be giving me, and I probably wouldn't even

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Speaker 1: able to get an appointment for a doctor in the

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Speaker 1: first place. So you know, things are good in spite

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Speaker 1: of the fact that things may be a bit gloomy.

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Speaker 1: So I will deal with it. Thank you for the

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Speaker 1: well wish is Gary, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Well, we really love you, and I think this is

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Speaker 8: evident of your character to show a strong outcome or a.

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Speaker 2: Strong outlook on this.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And I love critics, Mike, but I'm going to

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Speaker 8: agree disagree with one thing. He said that most of

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Speaker 8: our politicians are intentionally incompetent or they're incompetent. I would

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Speaker 8: I would go with most of our politicians who are

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Speaker 8: intentionally corrupt, they know what they're doing. Nobody's going to

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Speaker 8: hold them account by the time you get them into court,

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Speaker 8: if you ever get them into court, most of them

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Speaker 8: will likely settle out of court, you know, ninety percent

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Speaker 8: of them. I know there was a couple of characters

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Speaker 8: up in Columbus. They got sentenced for the nuclear power

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Speaker 8: the House years ago. Yeah, but I think if we

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Speaker 8: look at the vast majority, but giving away of all

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Speaker 8: the money to the Browns, to giving away money to

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Speaker 8: you know, subtle lawsuits, I think there's even a lot

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Speaker 8: of grief that goes around there. You know, you're one

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Speaker 8: point five you know, one point four five million dollars.

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Speaker 8: I'm sure there's money that gets sloshed around with that.

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Speaker 8: With lawyer fees, oh you can.

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Speaker 1: You can expect the lawyers got a third of that.

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Speaker 1: It's typical in a contingency fee agreement that the lawyers

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Speaker 1: will get roughly a third. It could be even more

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Speaker 1: in some cases, sometimes a little bit less. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can haggle over that. When you retain a plaintiffs

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Speaker 1: lawyer over the contingency fee, but you can usually count

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Speaker 1: on one third, so they get one third of the

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Speaker 1: one point four to five million. Not bad.

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Speaker 8: I would even say you got to wonder if the

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Speaker 8: law firm or the law firm didn't give money to

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Speaker 8: another law firm to get to politicians' campaign You know,

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Speaker 8: things have a way of being laundered like that.

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Speaker 1: Well there's not even wandering and you have sure Gary.

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Speaker 1: Quite often law firms will you know, report their campaign

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Speaker 1: contributions because they're all goetty to do. So you give

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Speaker 1: to like the Republican Party, they have to note who

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Speaker 1: gave the money and how much it is because there

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Speaker 1: are caps on that, and it's been widely reported for

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Speaker 1: years and years. You know, ex law firm, you know,

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Speaker 1: donated primarily to Democrats. You know ninety percent gave money

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Speaker 1: to the Democrat Party and ten percent to the other.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you can see the political bias in law

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Speaker 1: firms like you can with corporate donations and other donations.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm saying that that you know, if you if

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Speaker 8: you if I represent client B getting one point four

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Speaker 8: or five million, or if I represent the Browns giving

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Speaker 8: getting six hundred million dollars off of politicians, Right, I

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Speaker 8: don't want to dirty my hands, so I give it

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Speaker 8: to a third party who gives it to uh, you know,

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Speaker 8: either the Democrat or Republican candidate.

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Speaker 1: Yep, legally that's all about.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, things like that happen all the time. So I'm

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Speaker 8: saying there's intentional corruption. Whether you know, you get sued

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Speaker 8: as the city, you as a politician win. You don't

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Speaker 8: complete a project, you as a politician win. As long

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Speaker 8: as you keep winning your constituents block that votes for you,

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Speaker 8: nothing else matters.

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Speaker 1: Well, all, right, Elections have consequences. Is the more people

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Speaker 1: paid attention to the stuff they the minutia where they

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Speaker 1: would argue that you and I follow because we're we

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Speaker 1: dwellers and we care about things like this, the more

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Speaker 1: people would not vote for the status qual the election

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Speaker 1: in downtown Cincinnati, for example, maybe more people than one

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Speaker 1: out of four registered voters would have showed up and

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Speaker 1: cast their vote in opposition to the provol regime. No

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Speaker 1: they didn't.

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Speaker 8: Well yeah, well, you know, if you get strong blocks

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Speaker 8: of the commun unity like the Urban League or the

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Speaker 8: Business administration, if you're giving money to them, they're going

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Speaker 8: to go out and tell their voters, hey, vote for this.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly that's Iris Rollie right there. By all accounts

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Speaker 1: from people of all political spikes strifes, she holds a

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Speaker 1: tremendous amount of power over whoever the Iris roly acolytes are,

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Speaker 1: and there are apparently a lot of them in the

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Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati. They look up to her. They'll do

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Speaker 1: what she says, and of course when she says vote

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Speaker 1: for the current administration, apparently they're going to do that,

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Speaker 1: and they'll bother to show up to cast their vote

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Speaker 1: along those lines. But yeah, that happens every single day.

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Speaker 8: Well not only that, then you've got lobbyists. I mean,

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Speaker 8: people have lobbyists on top of that. You know, they're

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Speaker 8: paid for their constituents to influence politicians. You know, the

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Speaker 8: vast majority of people who go out and vote, right,

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Speaker 8: they don't have any lobbyists that looks out after them.

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Speaker 8: They just like they'll probably show up like city council

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Speaker 8: and they'll vote for no more than five Okay, here's

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Speaker 8: one through five, and then they move on here. Somebody

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Speaker 8: told me to vote, Okay, that's what it is. They don't.

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Speaker 8: The only thing they want to be is left alone

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Speaker 8: so that they can continue life. However it is they

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Speaker 8: want to do. They don't want to take time to

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Speaker 8: see all the money that's being funneled in their healthcare

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Speaker 8: everything else.

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Speaker 1: That goes back to the low information voter. They have

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Speaker 1: no time for politics generally, let alone the specifics of

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Speaker 1: any given thing that you and I might not call

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Speaker 1: them the farius or say is unethical, immoral, or in

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Speaker 1: inappropriate allocation tax payer dollars. They don't care about that.

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Speaker 1: They're not looking at the one point four million dollars

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Speaker 1: settlement that we're just getting ready to enter and into.

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Speaker 1: They don't care about what Ryan Hinton's family is doing

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Speaker 1: with regard to the city manager and talking about settlement.

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Speaker 1: They don't even know what happens. You know, you're lucky

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Speaker 1: if you find reporting on it locally, and then you

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Speaker 1: have to bother to read the local reporting on it

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Speaker 1: and then think about it in the context of is

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Speaker 1: this the right thing to do or not? That whole

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Speaker 1: exercise is going to take. Oh, I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 1: ten or fifteen minutes. Um, I don't have time for that.

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Speaker 1: I got another Netflix episode to watch, or I've got

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Speaker 1: a family to deal with. I gotta go to work

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Speaker 1: on my second job. We could go on for hours

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Speaker 1: and all the reasons people don't want to pay attention

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Speaker 1: to politics, or they've just reached the conclusion that it

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Speaker 1: is a colossal exercise in futility, which I think the

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Speaker 1: point the residents of the city of Cincinnati have gotten to.

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Speaker 1: If they're conservative, if they're independent, and they aren't far leftists,

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Speaker 1: they're like, well, screw it. This Cincinnati city has gone

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Speaker 1: all blue. The Democrats are just going to get elected

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Speaker 1: any way, regardless of how I cast my vote. Screw it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not showing up. I'm going back to my Netflix binge.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Gary. We need to get people to

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Speaker 1: pay more attention and cast smarter votes. Six seventeen fifty

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Speaker 1: five cars to detalk station five one three, seven, four

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Speaker 1: nine fifty, five hundred, eight hundred and eight to two

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Speaker 1: It's six twenty two here kersee de talk station. A

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Speaker 1: very happy Wednesday, FLP President of Ken kober Or coming

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Speaker 1: up next. Yeah, we have yet another settlement agreement recommended

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Speaker 1: by the city manager. One point four to five million

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Speaker 1: going to the family of Kwandavier Hicks, who was killed

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Speaker 1: by since a police officers is following a report of

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Speaker 1: a menacing investigation. He threatened to kill some people. They

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Speaker 1: encountered him. They ultimately fatally shot him in the chest.

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Speaker 1: Question seems to be a possible civil rights violation because

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Speaker 1: they didn't have a warrant. The officers found out what

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Speaker 1: they believed to be hicks North Side apartment. They did

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Speaker 1: enter without a warrant, where a warrant, where they were

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Speaker 1: confronted with a guy with a rifle. They saw the

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Speaker 1: barrel of the rifle pointed at her face and of

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Speaker 1: course that's when the deadly shot was fired. So a

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Speaker 1: lawsuit initially dismissed by a federal judge, but the Sixth

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Speaker 1: Circuit Court of Appeals said the city may be liable

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Speaker 1: for the officer violating his constitutional rights, with the appeals

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Speaker 1: court saying that, well, the officer doesn't have qualified immunity

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Speaker 1: related to unlawful entry. Words that will be extra constitutional.

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Speaker 1: They broke the constitutional law regarding civil rights, the Fourth

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Speaker 1: Amendment right to be free of unreasonable searches and seizures

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Speaker 1: in well going into the apartment without a warrant. So

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Speaker 1: with that looming issue which could have been litigated, they've

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Speaker 1: entered in an agreement which must be approved by counsel.

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Speaker 1: And it seems to me that according to the Fox

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Speaker 1: nineteen reporting, the only person who's chimed in out loud

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Speaker 1: Councilman Seth Wals, which said or who said he'll vote

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Speaker 1: for that amendment. Now here's something strange. Greg Landsman coming

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Speaker 1: to the rescue of the city of Cincinnati. He is

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Speaker 1: a congressman. You know him. Greg Landsman announced yesterday the

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Speaker 1: US House Representatives passed a federal funding bill that will

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Speaker 1: include money for the installation of cameras in Cincinnati. He said,

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Speaker 1: the bill includes one million dollars for a project that

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Speaker 1: will provide Cincinnati police with new cameras and more mental

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Speaker 1: health resources. Huh, corner Landsman and his statement, recent tragedies

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Speaker 1: in our city make it clear how critical this funding

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Speaker 1: is for new police cameras and improving the existing ones. Hey, Joe,

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Speaker 1: didn't we have some top of the hour reporting that

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Speaker 1: they're already installing a bunch of new cameras, like ninety

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Speaker 1: of them, and five point four million dollars allocated by

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Speaker 1: have tab Pervo to put in some cameras at least

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Speaker 1: in the West End. That happened last fall and does

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Speaker 1: the city have enough money to deal with public safety

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Speaker 1: that it could find somewhere in the budget one million dollars.

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Speaker 1: We seem to find that kind of money everywhere when

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Speaker 1: it comes to settling lawsuits. Don't we have the resources

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Speaker 1: where we the City of Cincinnati, if we exercised the

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Speaker 1: appropriate oversight of priorities, might have figured out a place

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Speaker 1: to find a million dollars on our own and build

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Speaker 1: and put up our own cameras. We need federal taxpayer

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Speaker 1: dollars from Greg Landsman to do something that the city

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Speaker 1: is eminently capable of doing within its own financial resources.

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Speaker 1: You're just glad we found them, Joe. He has been

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Speaker 1: kind of quiet, hasn't he, Greg Landsman? So this is

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Speaker 1: a smart and bipartisan federal investment in public safety that

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Speaker 1: brings tax payer dollars back to our communities. So local

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Speaker 1: law enforcement has what it needs to keep our children

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Speaker 1: and family safe. Which sounds to me like a Greg

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Speaker 1: Landsman criticism of the City of Cincinnati failing in its priorities.

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Speaker 1: Law enforcement doesn't have what it's needs. This suggest just

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Speaker 1: my take. You can feel free to have your own take.

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Speaker 1: I know somebody's got to take on this most recent

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Speaker 1: settlement announcement, Ken Cober FLP President Ken Cober returns after

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Speaker 1: these brief words starting with fast and pro roofing unqualified,

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Speaker 1: unconditional recommendation for the best six point thirty one. If

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Speaker 1: you have kre or ce the talk station taking me back,

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Speaker 1: just tracker with the bumper music. This was the theme

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Speaker 1: song for the cop Show back when Chief Tom Straker

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Speaker 1: was chief of the CINCINNT Police Department and really missed

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Speaker 1: that segment. Eddie, how you think we can get the

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Speaker 1: current police chief to start a cop show up? Joe, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: with a search warrant. I can't get one of those.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what at Ken cob Fraternal Order of Police

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Speaker 1: President Ken Koba, representing the Cincinnati Police Officers. God bless

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Speaker 1: you and the CINCINNTI Police Department. Ken Cobra, welcome back

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Speaker 1: your reaction to this proposed settlement another one, not the

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Speaker 1: ones we've been talking about, but this new one point

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Speaker 1: four to five million dollars settlement with a family of

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Speaker 1: Kwon Davier Hicks, who was shot by a CINCINNT Police

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Speaker 1: officer and died as a consequence apparently of him pointing

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Speaker 1: a gun at him. Ken welcome back. This apparently needs

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Speaker 1: to be proved by Cincinnati City Council. We only heard

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Speaker 1: about it yesterday, but at least one councilman, Seth Walsh,

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Speaker 1: has said he will vote to approve the settlement. What

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Speaker 1: was your reaction to this? What is your reaction to

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Speaker 1: this or is this just another payoff by the city

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Speaker 1: that's unwarranted. Good to have you back on.

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Speaker 2: Thy good morning, Brian. Thanks have me. This is.

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Speaker 9: This is at least one where I can I can

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Speaker 9: understand why they did it, Unlike some of these other ones,

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Speaker 9: you know, in this case, this is something that's been

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Speaker 9: going on for ten years. The Federal Court had said

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Speaker 9: since the onset of this, the police officers they did

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Speaker 9: absolutely nothing wrong. Their their decision to use force was

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Speaker 9: absolutely justified. This all came down to it. And let

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Speaker 9: me back up in this second though, Judge Barrett from

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Speaker 9: the Federal Court initially ruled and said a summary judgment,

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Speaker 9: I'm dismissing this. The officers did actually nothing wrong. In

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Speaker 9: twenty so that was in twenty sixteen to twenty twenty,

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Speaker 9: the plaintiffs for this appealed it to the Sixth Circuit Court.

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Speaker 9: They then returned it back to Judge Barrett basically said,

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Speaker 9: we're not really sure if the officers had a right

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Speaker 9: to go in to the residents that they went into,

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Speaker 9: because they came into play as to whether or not

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Speaker 9: this was a multi family or single family, and whether

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Speaker 9: this was a common area or not a common area.

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Speaker 9: So they returned it back to Judge Barrett, and Judge

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Speaker 9: Barrett's like, I don't have a problem with what the

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Speaker 9: cops did. So they appealed it again in twenty twenty

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Speaker 9: four and they came back with basically the same decision.

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Speaker 9: Cops did nothing wrong. But here there's still this question

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Speaker 9: that's lingering out there as to whether they had the

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Speaker 9: right to do this.

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Speaker 2: So based off of.

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Speaker 9: That, and not only that question, but also as to

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Speaker 9: you know, we had one of the officers that retired

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Speaker 9: that was involved in this that basically said, listen, I

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Speaker 9: would like to move on with my life. This has

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Speaker 9: been hanging over my head for eleven years.

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Speaker 2: You know. The courts have already said.

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Speaker 9: I did nothing wrong, right, and the city's like, look

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Speaker 9: what this is eleven years in the making.

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Speaker 2: What do we do or are we going to have.

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Speaker 9: This officer retired officer back that certainly presents a challenge.

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Speaker 9: You know, the fop's legal team was involved in this

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Speaker 9: since day one, and they all mutually agreed, you know,

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Speaker 9: this is probably the best decision. So you know, as

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Speaker 9: you well know, I'm not usually shy about criticizing the

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Speaker 9: city when they do things that I don't agree with.

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Speaker 2: In this case, I can understand why they did it.

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Speaker 1: Well, there are exceptions to the Fourth Amendment right to

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Speaker 1: be to get a search warrant. Correct, Like if you're

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Speaker 1: in hot pursuit of an individual, that individual enters into

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Speaker 1: a room of residents or otherwise, you can go in

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Speaker 1: there without waiting around for a warrant.

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Speaker 9: Correct, Yeah, without a doubt, and understand, I stand by

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Speaker 9: these officers. I believe they did absolutely nothing wrong. Like

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Speaker 9: I said, the court even agreed that they're appropriate. There

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Speaker 9: was an appropriate use of force.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, okay, this is where we need to

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Speaker 1: break it down use. Of course, they were clearly faced

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Speaker 1: with eminent apprehension, grievous bodily harm or murder because there

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Speaker 1: was a rifle pointed at them. So if your fear

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Speaker 1: for your life, legitimately so and reasonably so, that's when

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Speaker 1: you can use deadly force. They did, so that was fine.

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Speaker 1: It was the entering the room whereupon they came upon

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Speaker 1: this guy pointing a rifle at them. The entry of

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Speaker 1: the room is the question mark. Was it a civil

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Speaker 1: rights violation to not get a warrant before going in there?

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Speaker 1: Were they in hot pursuit or do they just believe

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Speaker 1: he might be in there? Isn't that really fundamentally what

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Speaker 1: we're talking about here?

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Speaker 2: It is, and this is where an officer's job.

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Speaker 9: You are damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. Yep,

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Speaker 9: you know, they were there for a radio run. This

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Speaker 9: wasn't like some kind of investigation.

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Speaker 2: They were called there.

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Speaker 9: They were called there to investigate somebody that was threatening somebody.

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Speaker 9: I believe it was with the firearm. So they're there

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Speaker 9: in good faith, acting off of a nine to one

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Speaker 9: one call. Like I said, This wasn't some drug investigation

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Speaker 9: or some kind of other investigation where they're doing some

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Speaker 9: kind of proactive work.

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Speaker 2: They were called to go there. They didn't ask to go.

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Speaker 2: They were.

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Speaker 9: And that's where I said, I stand by what these

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Speaker 9: officers did. And even if you read this statement that

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Speaker 9: came out from city Manager Cheryl Long, she said the

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Speaker 9: officers acted appropriately. We stand by them, We stand by

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Speaker 9: the work that they did. This comes down to this

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Speaker 9: is nothing more than really just a business decision, and

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Speaker 9: for that I can at least I can understand. This

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Speaker 9: wasn't something as we know last week that I was.

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Speaker 9: I was certainly pretty upset about, you know, doing things

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Speaker 9: kind of quietly, and this is something that was done

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Speaker 9: over eleven years, and it certainly wasn't done quietly. The

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Speaker 9: FOP was involved in this from the get go, so

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Speaker 9: it's certainly a different situation than what we've seen recently.

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Speaker 1: All Right, well, I pause, I'm going to bring you back.

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Speaker 1: I want to get updated on the whole hint in

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Speaker 1: silence is deafening thing in city hall, and also your

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Speaker 1: reaction to Greg Lansman apparently bringing back the bacon because

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Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati won't pay money for the for

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Speaker 1: city cameras. Want to get your reaction to that as well.

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Speaker 1: We'll get another segment here with FOP as in Ken Kober.

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Speaker 1: I want to first stay big picture with Jack add

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Speaker 1: In coming up at the top of the air news meantime.

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Speaker 1: FOP President Chapter six and nine that represents the Sin

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Speaker 1: Sinti Police Department Ken Cobra on the program, kent your

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Speaker 1: reaction they did go into executive session, since any council did.

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Speaker 1: They did not tell anybody why they were going into

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Speaker 1: executive session, which apparently violates Cincinnati council requirements. The public

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Speaker 1: needs to know what they're talking about. There are limitations

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Speaker 1: for why you can go into executive session, like speaking

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Speaker 1: about legal matters. We don't know what they talked about,

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Speaker 1: but they went in. They were there for two hours,

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Speaker 1: and not a peep from anybody from council, the city

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Speaker 1: manager's office, the mayor. Nothing revealed. What was your reaction

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Speaker 1: to that? Since they were talking apparently, we guess about

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Speaker 1: this Hinton settlement.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, two hours of executive session. I wholly disagree that.

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Speaker 9: When they're discussing city matters, discussing how to spend city

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Speaker 9: tax dollars, presumably to be able to do that in secret,

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Speaker 9: I completely disagree with it. And of course, you know,

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Speaker 9: the media was there and I talked to some of

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Speaker 9: the media outlets, and of course I'm not talking about

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Speaker 9: I'm not talking about it. How they're able to get

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Speaker 9: away with it has ben me. I mean a lack

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Speaker 9: of transparency. You ask every other city you ask every

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Speaker 9: other city department be transparent, which they should be. We

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Speaker 9: all should be transparent. We're spending people's harder money. They

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Speaker 9: have a right to know how it's being used. And

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Speaker 9: this just I completely disagree with how this is being handled.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: That and they need a justification if they're going to

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Speaker 1: approve a settlement. I don't care if it's a dollar

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Speaker 1: or ten million or whatever. We need a justification because

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Speaker 1: right now no one seems to be able to come

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Speaker 1: up with one, most notably given the fact that a

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Speaker 1: recipient of some of the settlement money someone who allegedly

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Speaker 1: has suffered damages and damages as a consequence of Ryan

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Speaker 1: Hinton's death, his dad who killed and murdered, literally murdered,

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Speaker 1: I would argue, a police officer literally ran them over

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Speaker 1: a sheriff's deputy because his son had been shot by

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Speaker 1: a Cincinnai police officer. You can't even find any logic

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Speaker 1: or reason in that one. But that really irks people

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Speaker 1: knowing that the man who killed a sheriff's deputy might

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Speaker 1: get a chunk of the money.

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Speaker 2: No aout a doubt it, I said.

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Speaker 9: And that's probably the biggest exception I take to all

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Speaker 9: of this you know, like I said, this settlement that

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Speaker 9: they came out with yesterday, I can rationalize and I

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Speaker 9: can understand why they did it. No, it was something

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Speaker 9: that was done with full transparency. You know, the FOP

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Speaker 9: was aware of it. They came out what they explain

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Speaker 9: why this happened over eleven years, and now we have

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Speaker 9: this that there's absolutely no transparency whatsoever. It's being done

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Speaker 9: behind closed doors. It's being discussed. Nobody knows what's going on.

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Speaker 2: And that's it.

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Speaker 9: Just this is not how a city government should be

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Speaker 9: operating well.

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Speaker 1: And the city government ship you operating more with public

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Speaker 1: safety in mind. We obviously know that they have to

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Speaker 1: have purvol didn't even acknowledge we had a crime problem

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Speaker 1: until after the July last year beat down, where he

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Speaker 1: then said, all right, here's five point four million dollars.

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Speaker 1: We're going to put this towards some public safety, including

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Speaker 1: the installation of some street cameras, cameras which had been

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Speaker 1: promised for years and years. I found out yesterday Greg

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Speaker 1: Lansman said he has secured one million dollars in federal

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Speaker 1: taxpayer money for a project that will provide Cincinnati police

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Speaker 1: with new cameras and some mental health resources. This is

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Speaker 1: Greg Landsman coming to the rescue of Cincinnati City Council

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Speaker 1: and actually, more importantly, the residents of the city who

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Speaker 1: are clamoring for this. Just yesterday it was announced on

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Speaker 1: the top of the air news. You heard it. We're

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Speaker 1: already installing I guess ninety new cameras. We had the money,

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00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: just no one bothered installing them. Is this Greg Landsman

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Speaker 1: trying to score political points in advance of the November

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Speaker 1: election saying I acknowledge there's an issue downtown with crime.

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Speaker 4: Well, to be.

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Speaker 9: Fair, to be fair, this is something that Greg Landsman

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Speaker 9: has actually worked on the last two years to try

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Speaker 9: to get this, and for one reason or another, it's died.

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Speaker 9: Dies in the Senate, dies in the House. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 9: I will give him credit. He has been trying to

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Speaker 9: do this for two years and who knows, it may

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Speaker 9: die in the Senate again. The House approve this, but

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Speaker 9: is the Senate can to prove? And this is where

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Speaker 9: the bureaucracy of government is just it's astounding to see

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Speaker 9: that it takes this long to allocate a million dollars

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Speaker 9: out of a brillion dollar budget.

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Speaker 1: I listen all day long. I'll agree with you. On that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you expect something of the federal government. You're bound for

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Speaker 1: disappointment because they can't agree that two and two is

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Speaker 1: four yet if he's been clamored to try to do

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Speaker 1: this via federal taxpayer dollars for a couple of years,

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Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati has been promising cameras, for example

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Speaker 1: on the West End for a couple of years. Everyone

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Speaker 1: appears to acknowledge that they are beneficial in at least

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Speaker 1: deterring crime to some To some extent, they are great

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Speaker 1: in terms of finding people who commit crimes because you

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Speaker 1: got video evidence of it. Ken Cober, do you think

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Speaker 1: over the last couple of years the city of Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: could have found the million dollars Greg's been pushing for

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Speaker 1: for the last couple of years within their own budget

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Speaker 1: and prioritize the cameras, Ken.

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Speaker 9: Oh, without a doubt, a doubt. And I talked about this,

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Speaker 9: I think it was last week with you about how

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Speaker 9: they we only have two people, you know, two civilians

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Speaker 9: to maintain and operate these cameras. However, because it's now

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Speaker 9: a priority, they've now detailed some officers that have some

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Speaker 9: pretty tech savvy abilities that are now going to be

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Speaker 9: detailed from their administrative assignments to go out and install

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Speaker 9: and repair these cameras. So now you're right to your point. Now,

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Speaker 9: all of a sudden, it has become an absolute priority.

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Speaker 9: And because now it's a priority, it's getting done. When

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Speaker 9: to be quite honest, this is something investigators have begged

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Speaker 9: for for years to get cameras fixed, to get cameras up.

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Speaker 9: But now it's finally becoming a.

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Speaker 1: Priority, finally becoming priority. And then there's all that Ohio

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Speaker 1: state money that's are in resources have been offered by

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Speaker 1: the governor. We don't know the total value of that,

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Speaker 1: but it isn't going to cost the city taxpayers a dime.

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Speaker 1: You would think that the administration would embrace every single

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Speaker 1: bit of that free resource offer from the state. I

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Speaker 1: guess though, they're a little upset because they probably wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be able to control it because it would be the

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Speaker 1: high state control as opposed to these since saying police.

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Speaker 2: No without a doubt.

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Speaker 9: And that's that's something that I've certainly been critical of

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Speaker 9: the mare as well as you're you're getting resources in

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Speaker 9: the city that they have to pay for, and I

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01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 9: understand you have pay taxes in Ohio we're still paying

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Speaker 9: for this, but we're actually getting a return on our investments. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: by having these extra resources, and why it hasn't been

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Speaker 9: utilized center is something I've certainly been critical of. I'll

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01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 9: never understand, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a better return on investment than the six hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollars that you have taxpayers are going to pay

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Speaker 1: to build us of the Cleveland Browns Stadium.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, there's no doubt about that. Or what is it

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01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 9: like three hundred and fifty million dollars that the county's

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Speaker 9: now invested into a pay course stadium that we saw

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Speaker 9: that they did not exactly have the best season this

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Speaker 9: year either.

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Speaker 1: Priorities, priorities, priorities. You folks on the west end, suck

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Speaker 1: it up, you know, maybe someday GOTHLP President ken Cover,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for the willingness to spend some

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Speaker 1: time with my listeners and me on this and keep

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Speaker 1: up the great work representing the police of the police force.

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Speaker 1: And as I always point out, you got my audience

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Speaker 1: is back, or my back, audience has your back, and

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Speaker 1: all the police departments back. We'll have we'll have you

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Speaker 1: on again real soon. Keep up the good work.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Brian, it's always a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: It's six fifty right now, fifty five KRC detalk station.

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Speaker 1: Right after seven oh six here at fifty five k

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Speaker 1: see DE talk station. Always a special time here on

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Speaker 1: the fifty five CARSS Morning Show because we get a

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Speaker 1: dose to the brilliance of Jack other and it's called

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Speaker 1: the Big Picture with Jack Avian And every Wednesday it's

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Speaker 1: seven oh five, it's seven oh six today the Price

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Speaker 1: of Purity, Jack Adaan, welcome back to the fifty five

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Speaker 1: Cars Morning Show. My friend always look forward to this segment,

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Speaker 1: and I know a lot of my listeners feel the

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Speaker 1: same way.

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Speaker 10: Thanks for having me back, Pal, and we're all pulling

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Speaker 10: for your upcoming cancer treatments. But you're getting better and better.

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Speaker 10: Amesley is now a ten year survivor and you've got

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Speaker 10: decades to come of waking up at two am.

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Speaker 1: That's very kind of you. Yeah, pray for me for

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Speaker 1: a cure for boredom tomorrow. Six hours with the drip.

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Speaker 1: I just you know, I'm happy that I've got the drip.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy that I've got doctors. I'm happy that I

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Speaker 1: can access medical care in this country. He was joking

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Speaker 1: if I was in Venezuela or a cube. I'd be

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Speaker 1: dead by now, but the idea is sitting in that

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Speaker 1: room for six hours. He's just really got me a

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Speaker 1: little depressed. But you know what sucks to be you, Thomas,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not worthy of any pity. I'm just not

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Speaker 1: looking forward to it. I'm taking my laptop though, so

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Speaker 1: at least a bit of watch movies and maybe prepare

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Speaker 1: for the morning show for Friday.

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Speaker 10: We're just happy to have you, thanks man. Let's talk

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Speaker 10: this week once again about conservatives whose unbending principles would

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Speaker 10: leave our country paralyzed. They follow in the footsteps, well,

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Speaker 10: footsteps actually is not the way to put it, because

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Speaker 10: they don't get anywhere, and they stand right next to

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Speaker 10: an ancient Greek philosopher named Zeno who famously that we

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Speaker 10: can never get anywhere because first you need to go

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Speaker 10: half the distance, and to go half the distance, you

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01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 10: first have to go one quarter of the distance, and

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01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 10: before that one eighth, one sixteenth, smaller and smaller distances,

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Speaker 10: until finally you're stuck standing still, paralyzed. In political terms,

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Speaker 10: if your country is paralyzed and there's an emergency, you're

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Speaker 10: unable to defend yourself. Now, at the opposite extreme way

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Speaker 10: of thinking. The Greeks also had Alexander the Great, the

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Speaker 10: kid Conqueror, was confronted by a puzzle, a hank of

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Speaker 10: rope tied into a knot. This so called Gordian knot

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Speaker 10: was so complicated it was prophesied that anybody who could

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Speaker 10: undo it would.

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Speaker 9: Rule all the known world.

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Speaker 10: Well, Alexander had never been a boy scout, and it

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01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 10: didn't know how to one tie complicated knots, So instead

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Speaker 10: he took out his sword and cut the kN two.

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Speaker 10: Then Alexander conquered the knowe world known to him. The

1218
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Speaker 10: Gordian not today is our constitution. We don't want to

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Speaker 10: cut it, but we also don't want to be tied

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Speaker 10: up in knots adopted by our founders during the time

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Speaker 10: of divine right monarchs and other autocratic rulers, the US Constitution,

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Speaker 10: this miracle of state craft, presents a framework for limited, decentralized,

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Speaker 10: divided government. Still, the founders never wanted the Constitution to

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Speaker 10: paralyze us, so Madison and the other framers included a

1225
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Speaker 10: way to amend it. A constitutional amendment can be proposed

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Speaker 10: by two thirds of both the House of Representatives and

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Speaker 10: the Senate, or an amendment can be proposed by two

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Speaker 10: thirds of the state legislatures, then the amendment must be

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Speaker 10: ratified by three fourths of the state legislatures or by

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Speaker 10: conventions held in three fours of the states. Easy pasy, right, No,

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Speaker 10: This tough ratification process explains why we have so few

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Speaker 10: constitutional amendments, just twenty seven and actually the first ten amendments,

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Speaker 10: what we call the Bill of Rights, they were adopted

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01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 10: right away. So Congress and the states have since then

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Speaker 10: ratified just seventeen constitutional amendments all since our founding. And

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Speaker 10: that's a good thing, Brian, as you know, because making

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Speaker 10: it so tough to amend the Constitution has preserved our

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Speaker 10: basic rights. For instance, millions of leftists today would gladly

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Speaker 10: scrap the right to bear arms, especially after a school shooting.

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Speaker 10: It took the Supreme Court ruling just seventeen years ago

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Speaker 10: in the Heller case to finally affirm that under the

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Speaker 10: Second Amendment, the right to bear arms belongs to individuals,

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Speaker 10: not just state militias. But that Supreme Court vote was

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Speaker 10: five to four. The Heller decision could be reversed any

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Speaker 10: time if the Supreme Court becomes more liberal, just as

1246
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Speaker 10: Roe v. Wade was reversed when the Court became more

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Speaker 10: pro life. This raises the thorny issue of judicial interpretation.

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Speaker 10: We like to think the courts are impartial, just following

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Speaker 10: the law, but sorry, your honors, they are not. Ever

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Speaker 10: since the eighteen oh three decision Barbarie Versus Madison, we

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Speaker 10: have accepted that laws, including the Constitution, mean whatever a

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Speaker 10: shifting bare majority of Supreme Court justices say they mean.

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Speaker 10: Still having to propose an amendments of the Constitution and

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Speaker 10: then having to get it ratified, and then getting the

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Speaker 10: US Supreme Court to agree on an interpretation. All that

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Speaker 10: makes the United States a comparatively stable republic of laws,

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Speaker 10: not whims, passions and reverendums. However, it also means that

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Speaker 10: America is not the most agile government. It's often hard

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Speaker 10: for us to take quick emergency action. As Zeno would say,

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Speaker 10: we cannot get from point A to point B, even

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Speaker 10: if we need to dodge a bullet, even if Iranian

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Speaker 10: nuclear plans may have been weeks away from being weaponized.

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Speaker 10: Donald Trump's answer was to launch secret lightning fast airstrikes

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Speaker 10: without a congressional declaration of war or even prior notice

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Speaker 10: to Congress. This strike followed a long tradition. As we

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Speaker 10: discussed last week, we noted that only thirteen years after

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Speaker 10: the Constitution was adopted, Thomas Jefferson, on his own, deployed

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Speaker 10: US Marines to the shores of Tripoli to free Americans

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Speaker 10: from barbary pirates in Libya. More recently, Democrat and Republican

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Speaker 10: presidents have claimed the constitutional power as commander in chief

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Speaker 10: to fight without a Congressional declaration of war in I'm

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Speaker 10: taking a big breath now, Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, Granada, Panama, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Libya, Iran,

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Speaker 10: and now Venezuela. Each time presidents declared national emergencies. In response,

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Speaker 10: Congress has sometimes appropriated funds after the fact, or it's

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Speaker 10: attempted to place constraints on presidents, as with Vietnam the

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Speaker 10: War Powers Resolution. However, since nineteen seventy three, presidents have

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Speaker 10: argued that this resolution is primarily about notifying Congress before

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Speaker 10: or after the fact, and they've claimed that under the

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Speaker 10: separation of powers, an Act of Congress cannot diminish a

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Speaker 10: president's own constitutional powers. So the debate continues. But Folks,

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Speaker 10: the real problem is that in twenty six, we have

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Speaker 10: no more debates. In the past, many Republicans, however, reluctantly

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Speaker 10: supported Democrat presidents, from Harry Truman in Korea to Barack

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Speaker 10: Obama and his five hundred and forty drone strikes in

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Speaker 10: seven countries. On the other hand, Richard Nixon fought an

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Speaker 10: undeclared war in Vietnam with help from Democrats like Scoop

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Speaker 10: Jackson and Ronald Reagan. He was able to gain so

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Speaker 10: much support a whole wing in Congress came to be

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Speaker 10: called Reagan Democrats. Today, this kind of bipartisanship is unthinkable.

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Speaker 10: That Democrats chief campaign strategy is polarization chaos Trump derangement

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Speaker 10: syndrome Exhibit A Minnesota. Today's Democrats have no agenda, and

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Speaker 10: when I say no, I mean no agenda they can

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Speaker 10: admit to. In their quest for power, they favor big

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Speaker 10: state socialism, corruption dependency, open borders to swell their base,

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Speaker 10: and shipping jobs overseas to win support from multinational corporations.

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Speaker 10: On these issues, they will not compromise. So, given this

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Speaker 10: legislative paralysis, what we have to rely on now is

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Speaker 10: not arguing in front of a shifting majority on the

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Speaker 10: Supreme Court, not with Democrats once again threatening like FDR

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Speaker 10: to expand and pack the High Court with liberals if

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Speaker 10: they win, We must win elections, however rigged they may be.

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Speaker 10: In blue states, we still do have congressional elections every

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Speaker 10: two years, including this year. Voters will have the power

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Speaker 10: to follow Trump's agenda or change the country's direction, and

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Speaker 10: this spring will also have the power to primary incumbent lawmakers,

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Speaker 10: including Republican members, who would stand in a way of

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Speaker 10: fellow Republicans getting things done. Because these mavericks cannot persuade

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Speaker 10: their own colleagues to see things their way, and failing that,

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Speaker 10: they refuse to compromise even to just keep the government

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Speaker 10: from shutting down. These gadflies proclaim their principles, but in

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Speaker 10: effect they vote for paralysis. To sum up, governing is

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Speaker 10: a messy business. Lincoln ignored habeas corpus, Franklin Roosevelt threw

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Speaker 10: innocent American citizens of Japanese descent into internment cabs. I

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Speaker 10: am not proposing that presidents become dictators. I am arguing

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Speaker 10: for principled compromise because our constitution is not a suicide fact.

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Speaker 10: It's not a Zeno trap that keeps America from moving

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Speaker 10: from point A to point B. If Republican paralysis lets

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Speaker 10: Democrats win in November, much less twenty twenty eight, they

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Speaker 10: will pack the court. They will try making Washington, DC

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Speaker 10: and Puerto Rico states. They will outlaw free speech, and

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Speaker 10: the Constitution will go the way of the Gordian Knot.

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Speaker 10: Each exercise of power by a president, Congress, and even

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Speaker 10: the Supreme Court has to be judged on its own merits,

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Speaker 10: ultimately at the ballot box, because for now, thankfully, voters

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Speaker 10: still had the final say if they show up to

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Speaker 10: say it. What do you say, brother?

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Speaker 1: I say, the latter part is a big challenge. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is a common reoccurring theme here everywhere, certainly here

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Speaker 1: on the fifty five KCY Morning Show. These complex issues

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Speaker 1: in this gridlock, and these other issues behind which they

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Speaker 1: should be talking about and maybe compromising that it's all

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Speaker 1: lost in the American people generally speaking. And I don't

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Speaker 1: mean to paint with so large a brush. It includes everyone,

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Speaker 1: but so many people are not inclined to even pay

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Speaker 1: attention to politics. We're all victims of social media, getting

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Speaker 1: our political ideology from memes as opposed to thoughtful analysis.

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Speaker 1: Something like a meme can push people like to think,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, I ser a bunch of Nazi, you know,

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Speaker 1: estoppo thugs, when any measure of thoughtful analysis would reveal No,

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Speaker 1: they are enforcing federal law. Law that's on the books,

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Speaker 1: and that was passed by Congress and enacted by a

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Speaker 1: prior president. That's the law they're enforcing. That was the

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Speaker 1: political process in place back when the laws went to effect.

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Speaker 1: That they disagree with them currently, that's going to require

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Speaker 1: some political process and perhaps compromise by our elected officials

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Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. None of which is happening right now.

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Speaker 1: But you know, people who don't pay attention who would

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Speaker 1: prefer to be you know, I'm just I don't pay

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Speaker 1: attention to politics. They can easily be duped. But going

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Speaker 1: back to your prior you know, illustrations of compromise, I

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Speaker 1: think a Tip O'Neill. You know, I didn't like Tip

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Speaker 1: O'Neil at the time, but ultimately he did reach across

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Speaker 1: the island worked with Ronald Reagan to get some stuff

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Speaker 1: done to our collective economic recovery benefit. No one's in

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Speaker 1: the mood for working together because I think it's a

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Speaker 1: consequence of this radical leftward shift in the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 1: Democrats aren't just a party of you know, the little

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Speaker 1: guy and fighting for big government programs anymore, although they

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Speaker 1: still do that. They seem to be made up in

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Speaker 1: large part, at least the predominant wing of the party,

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Speaker 1: or the loudest voice of people who do not wish

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Speaker 1: to continue the constitutional framework we live in. So this

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Speaker 1: concern of yours, legitimate as it is, over the eradication

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Speaker 1: disappearing constitution, that's a desired thing by many members of

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Speaker 1: the left. We're going to rise like phoenix from the

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Speaker 1: ashes once we get rid of that pesky constitution and

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Speaker 1: their stupid protection of rights, individual rights like the right

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Speaker 1: to keep them bare arms. Once that's eradicated, we're going

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Speaker 1: to have something new here that is a level that

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Speaker 1: this country I don't think has ever seen before. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there were always fringe elements screaming for that kind of

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Speaker 1: thing back in the day, but you know, even going

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Speaker 1: back to the turn of the century in nineteen hundreds,

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Speaker 1: we had a lot of socialists and communists running around,

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Speaker 1: a lot of bomb throwers. We had, you know, back

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Speaker 1: in the sixties, the Symbian Littleanese Limionese army and the

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Speaker 1: weather underground, you know, planning bombs in the Senate, you know,

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Speaker 1: bathroom I mean big things like that. But they were

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Speaker 1: such a minority. The social media has caused these minority

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Speaker 1: groups that hate America to look like they're much stronger

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Speaker 1: than they are, or they become a lot stronger. So

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Speaker 1: any compromise by that wining the Democratic Party is going

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Speaker 1: to be a betrayal of what they ultimately run, which

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Speaker 1: is the downfall of America.

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Speaker 10: Jack, Yeah, the primary process may ultimately bring us a

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Speaker 10: Democrat nominee who, like Joe Biden, pretends to be a moderate,

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Speaker 10: but the Democrat Party has presently constituted has no future.

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Speaker 10: What I'm talking about right now, because this is what

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Speaker 10: we're facing during our primary season, is maverick Republicans. And

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Speaker 10: you might say, well, there's just a few of them. Well,

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Speaker 10: we don't have much of a margin right to give

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Speaker 10: up a few votes, and I can't blame these mavericks.

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Speaker 10: Ideal logical purity makes life easy. The Constitution gives Congress

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Speaker 10: the right to declare war.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 10: Well, that's not it. As we've been trying to show,

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Speaker 10: problems cannot be reduced to a formula. As every lawyer, judge,

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Speaker 10: and congressman knows, there's a saying we learned in law school.

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Speaker 10: Hard cases make bad laws and bad executive orders. Sometimes

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Speaker 10: that saying does not mean we can stick our heads

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Speaker 10: in the sand and ignore the hard cases. It means

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Speaker 10: in the real world, the world of Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR

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01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 10: and Trump, if you're going to be not an academic,

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01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 10: but what Teddy Roosevelt called the man in the arena,

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01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 10: you have to balance black letter law with life and

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01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 10: remain as principled as possible given circumstances. Then in America

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Speaker 10: you have to face the voters, and we voters have

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Speaker 10: to turn out.

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Speaker 1: Have to turn out, and hopefully we turn out informed.

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Speaker 1: I had that in the big picture. Every Wednesday at

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Speaker 1: seven o five beginning love your commentary, Jack, and I

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Speaker 1: and my listeners love it as well. Share the link

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Speaker 1: with your friends podcast up at fifty five KRS dot com. Jack.

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Speaker 1: Until next week. Best of health and love to your

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Speaker 1: better half, and you appreciate your willingness to talk with

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Speaker 1: us every week. It's all right KRC the talk station

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Speaker 1: seven twenty nine. It's Wednesday, and a happy one to you.

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Speaker 1: After the top of the air news suffering the slings

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Speaker 1: and arrows of outrage from Donald Trump. Congressman Thomas Massey,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about his latest anti Nassy treat Where in

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01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 1: the hell are the Epstein documents. That's a good question

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01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 1: for Massy government shutdown coming your way. Compliments of the

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Speaker 1: Democrats wanting to defund ice. Yeah, that's the thing. Plus

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Speaker 1: maybe a common or two about Venezuela in Iran. But

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Speaker 1: in the meantime, welcome back to the fifty five Carse

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Speaker 1: Mornings from American from Americans for Prosperity. Donovan O'Neil, it's

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Speaker 1: always a pleasure to have in you on the show, Donovan, Brian,

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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday to you. I got I'm happy you bringing

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Speaker 1: up the topic today that you wanted to bring about,

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Speaker 1: the affordability argument. Democrats have just a couple of things

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Speaker 1: that hang their hat on as we move toward election.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the anti Ice and their immigration policy standpoint.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's going to benefit them or not.

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Speaker 1: I know the anti ICE rhetoric is getting hotter and

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Speaker 1: hotter every day, but it seems to me, based on

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Speaker 1: prior pulling the vast majority of Americans are happy to

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Speaker 1: get rid of murderers, rapists, child molesters, drug dealers, illegal immigrants,

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Speaker 1: most notably with criminal records representing a danger to society.

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Speaker 1: Most people want them out. So will the Democrats be

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Speaker 1: able to win on that anti Ice strategy remains to

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Speaker 1: be seen. The other one, of course, subsidies for Obamacare,

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Speaker 1: which doesn't fix the problem of the expense of healthcare.

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Speaker 1: Will that work for them? Don't know. But the third

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Speaker 1: one that I can come up with, other than just

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, evil orange man, the affordability argument. Everything's unaffordable.

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Speaker 1: You know this overlooks at least the initial argument is

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Speaker 1: disingenuous because well, of course, Joe Biden's responsible for a

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Speaker 1: large portion of the massive recent prices of goods and

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Speaker 1: services we face, because he's the one that threw an

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Speaker 1: additional eight or so trillion dollars into the world, which

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Speaker 1: of course waters down the value of the currency. So

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Speaker 1: moving aside from that, they're the ones that put in

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Speaker 1: all kinds of rules and regulations forcing the price of

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Speaker 1: gasoline to go through the roof environmental regulations which increase

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Speaker 1: the cost of electricity, housing restrictions, water flow restrictions. Lord Almighty,

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Speaker 1: I could go on for hours and hours about things

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Speaker 1: that politicians due to us, Donovan, which increase the cost

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Speaker 1: of living in our world, which would not have happened

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Speaker 1: in normal economic factor situations. I used the price of

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Speaker 1: eggs earlier. Sorry for the rant, Donovan, but I'm a

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Speaker 1: little hot into the collar onto this one. You can't

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Speaker 1: control the price of eggs unless you somehow get involved

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Speaker 1: with environmental regulations or rules about egg production, et cetera,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. If you got bird flu and the chickens die,

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Speaker 1: the price of eggs is going to go up. So

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Speaker 1: there's no legislative solution for that. But most everything else,

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Speaker 1: people are complaining about a self inflicted wound from overly

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Speaker 1: zealous regulators, people who want to get rid of plant

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Speaker 1: food from the environment. I could go on and on, Donovan.

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Speaker 1: How come this isn't you know resonating with the American

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Speaker 1: people that these are self inflicted wounds, and well, our

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Speaker 1: politicians and elected officials could easily relieve the burden of

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Speaker 1: all of this stuff just by removing the regulatory burdens

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Speaker 1: they threw in our way.

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Speaker 11: Well, I share the uh, I share the sentiment. On

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Speaker 11: a Wednesday morning, it is rantworthy because you just kind

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Speaker 11: of slap your face and wonder, how the heck are

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Speaker 11: we in this situation? You know, Chuck Schumer Center Schumer

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Speaker 11: Anti Pelosi Democrats. We've noticed they've started an uptick in

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Speaker 11: talking about things to the lens of affordability.

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Speaker 6: And you look at that and you say, well, wait

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Speaker 6: a minute, Wait a minute.

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Speaker 1: You are the fools who, you.

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Speaker 11: Know, over the Biden Economy eras era enacted five point

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Speaker 11: five trillion in new spending that pushed us up to

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Speaker 11: forty year record high inflation. You're the same folks who

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Speaker 11: believe that top down government policies on emission standards and

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Speaker 11: the kinds of vehicles we can buy, and the tax

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Speaker 11: credits for evs and the desire to like, over the

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Speaker 11: next decade or two eliminate, you know, affordable gas powered vehicles.

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Speaker 6: You're the folks who did this.

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Speaker 11: Like, the affordability crisis that Americans have been feeling for

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Speaker 11: the last several years that we're beginning to find our

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Speaker 11: way out of, was caused by the policy, the very

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Speaker 11: policies that folks like Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffreys, Greg Landsman,

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Speaker 11: Sharr Brown and others want to see brought back to

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Speaker 11: this country, and it's just it's why we're in the

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Speaker 11: situation we're in, these top down policies, mandates pushed from Washington,

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Speaker 11: d c. Or Columbus, Ohio, that make life less affordable

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Speaker 11: for so many people.

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Speaker 1: Well, and the economic reality of all this is revealed

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Speaker 1: in the h Well the most recent statements from the

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Speaker 1: Governor of California, Gavin Newsom. Last week he did the

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Speaker 1: State of the State address, and among the other comments

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Speaker 1: he made, we California are approving that you that out

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Speaker 1: of the mouse in his pocket, are proving that a

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Speaker 1: progressive tax structure works, and that in the following week

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Speaker 1: he is advocating against voting for the five percent tax

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Speaker 1: on the wealth of residents with a network of the

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Speaker 1: worth of a billiona more. Why because they all the

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01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 1: billionaires started leaving the state of California last December. Because

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Speaker 1: this would be a retroactive tax to anybody who is

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Speaker 1: still residing in California. It's been reported. I saw the

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Speaker 1: Washington Times report on this that one bill a trillion

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Speaker 1: dollars of the two trillion dollars in billionaire wealth that

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Speaker 1: existed in California has left. So those folks have gone

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Speaker 1: to Texas and Florida, among other places. They're running away

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Speaker 1: from outrageous regulation, outrageous taxation, all these things that the

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Speaker 1: government did to them. And now they've got this bounty

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Speaker 1: on their heads taking five percent of their gross ownings

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Speaker 1: or everything of their material wealth, which means a lot

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Speaker 1: of them would have to liquidate things they own. We've

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Speaker 1: talked about this in the past. They don't have cash

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Speaker 1: on hand to pay billions of dollars in this tax.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have to sell stuff they owned to do it.

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Speaker 1: I it's a recipe for disaster. As Governor Newsom is

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Speaker 1: finding out, this is what they did to themselves. Can

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Speaker 1: we not learn a lesson from the cautionary tale that

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Speaker 1: is the state of California and it's colossally screwed up

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01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 1: budget deficits in spite of how much they exact from

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Speaker 1: their citizens.

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Speaker 11: Well, and just look at the Obamacare debacle and this

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Speaker 11: current debate around the ACA subsidies, right, you know, I

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01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 11: look at the election in twenty twenty four is where Ohioans,

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01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 11: you know, had been told for a decade by people

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Speaker 11: like Shared Brown that Obamacare, the affordable so called affordable

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01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 11: character is going to lower costs in their healthcare.

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Speaker 6: We knew that wasn't going to be the case.

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Speaker 11: We called that those of us who know that when

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Speaker 11: you force mandates down on people, and you you constrain systems,

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01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 11: and you you don't let the free market operate, costs

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01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 11: go up, pain ensues. But they were rejected those ideas, right.

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01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 11: They had finally said enough is enough, there's no more

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01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 11: making a bad system work. We need to change course.

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01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 11: And they did that right least so by electing Senator

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Speaker 11: Bernie Moreno. I think these same policies, though, are you know,

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01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 11: around affordability or a challenge in that It's easy to

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01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 11: say to to the voter, to the citizen, just give

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01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 11: me a little more control, right, let me pass some

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01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 11: more laws, some more rules, some more regulations.

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Speaker 8: I can.

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Speaker 11: I can fix your problem. That's the politician at large, right,

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01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 11: the Washington d C. Environment What we really want, though,

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Speaker 11: And I think what voters will reward come November isn't

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01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 11: all their problems or pass a law, or spend more

1556
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 11: of their harder and tax dollars, you know, robbing Peter

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01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 11: to pay Paul. I think what voters are going to

1558
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 11: reward are bold lawmakers who charted different course. It's why folks,

1559
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 11: you know, even when they're upset with Trump, still love them, right,

1560
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 11: because he's doing something and he's moving he's moving the

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01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 11: country in a in a different way than that sort

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Speaker 11: of status quo.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 11: And but what it also takes isn't just bold leaders

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01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 11: who are going to chart a different course. We've got

1566
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 11: to go out there and we've got to talk about

1567
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 11: these things. We have to actually communicate with voters say hey, yeah,

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01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 11: you know, putting a subsidy on one thing isn't the

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01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 11: best course rush. You need to unravel that system and

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01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 11: free let the free market.

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Speaker 1: Lead, well at free market lead, but also don't mask

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01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: the reality of what's going on here. They promised to

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01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: lower health care costs. They're not lowering health care costs.

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Speaker 1: The reason the premiums have gone through the rules because

1575
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 1: the cost of healthcare hasn't come down. That's what happens.

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01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 1: They are masking the cost. Masking by giving you a

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01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: subsidy to cover the premium does not eradicate the underlying

1578
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,799
Speaker 1: problem with the outrageous increase in the cost of medicine.

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01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 1: Why is the cost of medicine so damn expensive, Donovan,

1580
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: that's the root of the problem. That's what needs to

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01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 1: be a dealt with. Donald Trump reacts by saying, Okay,

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01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 1: I want Most Favored Nation status for pharmaceuticals. If X

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01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: country gets to buy a pharmaceutical for ten bucks and

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Speaker 1: we're paying one hundred in the state or in the States, No,

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Speaker 1: it's going to become ten. That's a solution. Agree with

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Speaker 1: it or not. From a market force perspective, However, the

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Speaker 1: pharmaceuticals run, We're never going to have any new pharmaceuticals.

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01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 1: If you do that, it's still a solution that goes

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01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: directly to the cost of the good getting rid of

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01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: pharmacy benefit managers, pointless stupid middlemen who are making the

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01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: price of pharmatacles pharmaceuticals go through the roof. I haven't

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01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 1: heard a whole lot of talk about that. That would

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01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 1: is what I would think. It would be an easy

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01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: legislative solution to part of the healthcare cost problem. But

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01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 1: then you got this whole affordability thing, resulting in Donald

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01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:39,520
Speaker 1: Trump doing things that Democrats might typically do, like mandating

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01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: ten percent cap on credit card fees. Now, I know

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01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: it's not an executive order, it's just an ask, but

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01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 1: that's government telling business how to run itself. Telling institutional

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01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 1: investors that they can't buy real estate sounds like a

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01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: Democrat idea. Might it cause a little relief in home

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01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: ownership issues maybe down the road, but you know, times

1603
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 1: call for desperate actions. But you know, this affordability argument

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01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 1: they've got has sort of has sort of sent Donald

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01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 1: Trump over into the realm of Democrat proposals. Donovan O'Neil pause,

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01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 1: answer that or address that. We come back, as Joe's

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01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 1: screaming at me, I have gone way over seven thirty

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01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 1: nine right now. Fifty five krc DE talk stations Zimmer

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01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 1: Heating and Area k Talk station see here fifty five

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01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,679
Speaker 1: KRCD talk station Bryan Thomas with Americans for Prosperities. Donald

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01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 1: and Neil. Sorry to rant and unload on you at

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01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: the end of their bran h Donovan, but this is

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01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 1: one that just irks me to know when if people

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01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: paid attention and had some basic economic understanding, they would

1615
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 1: fully appreciate that most of this affordability crisis, if they

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01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 1: want to call it, that is self inflicted. And I

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01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: rambled on a little bit toward the end there. But

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Speaker 1: your reaction to the states, you can manage one.

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01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 11: Well, no, I think what you're pointing out there, right is,

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01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 11: this isn't a problem that is unique to one political party.

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01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 6: It's human.

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Speaker 11: It's natural human nature right to say, you know, I'm

1623
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 11: feeling some pain, and if somebody can come along and

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01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 11: make those promises to alleviate that pain, I'm gonna yield

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01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 11: some of my freedom, some of my autonomy to them.

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01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 2: Right.

1627
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,839
Speaker 6: And the problem here is is as Chuck.

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01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,759
Speaker 11: Schumer and the Democrats, I think the thing the illustrate

1629
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 11: here right is is Chuck Schumer Democrats in this election

1630
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 11: year start making that authoritability argument and saying, hey, give

1631
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 11: us back that power, give us that ability.

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01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 1: We're going to pass some laws, we're going to tax

1633
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 1: the rich, we're.

1634
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 11: Going to regulate and secure the economy, and it's all

1635
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:29,679
Speaker 11: going to get better.

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01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 6: That's the playbook.

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01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 11: We know that put us in the situation that we're

1638
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 11: in today, right, And so you know, challenging that, pushing

1639
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 11: back against that, and pointing out that the way you

1640
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 11: actually solve this supportability crisis isn't a quicksilver bullet of

1641
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 11: an executive action or.

1642
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 6: A new bill being passed.

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01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:53,640
Speaker 11: It's actually unwinding the disastrous effects of Bidenomics. Right by unleashing,

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01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 11: permitting reform, by eliminating subsidies to Obamacare that are masking

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01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 11: the true costs of health care, by unleashing our economy,

1646
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 11: and allowing people to innovate and grow and create wealth

1647
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:08,600
Speaker 11: once again in this country. Those are the things you

1648
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 11: got to do. It's really getting the government out of

1649
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 11: your life rather than inviting it further and deeper into

1650
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 11: our pocketbooks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, looking at the environmental nonsense

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01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: that I keep referring to the religion that we've all

1653
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 1: apparently following with the exception me heretic, I am blasphemer.

1654
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 1: But windmill and solar farm subsidies the only reason those

1655
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 1: things were even economically viable, it's that government manipulation. For

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01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 1: whatever reason, they want to get rid of carbon based fuels,

1657
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 1: or you want to get rid of gasoline and natural

1658
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 1: gas and all the things that work. They won't allow nuclear,

1659
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 1: even though we all know that that doesn't produce carbon dioxide.

1660
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 1: So we go to windmills and solar panels, and they

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01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 1: sell the idea that it's affordable and it will work

1662
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 1: because you and I are subsidizing the building and creation

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01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: and acquisition of these windmill farms and solar plants. If

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01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 1: real market forces were at work, and if government didn't

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01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 1: subsidize them with our ever growing deafests dollars, then they

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01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't be there as an option because they can't compete

1667
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 1: and they are unreliable well, and.

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01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 6: Subsidies drive up the costs.

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Speaker 11: You know, one of the things that Santa Moreno had

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01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 11: had mentioned to me and I did, I'd looked into it,

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01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,600
Speaker 11: and that it appears to be true is not that

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01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 11: I have any reason not to believe among this prime

1673
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 11: but the the EV subsidies, seventy EV subsidies. Guess what

1674
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 11: happened when they eliminated those EV subsidies did the price

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01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 11: day seventy five dollars higher? The price dropped subsidies artificially

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01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 11: increased price of goods and services. Right, because if if

1677
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 11: you're a company and you're looking at that and you're saying, well, hey,

1678
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 11: look it's not going to hurt my customers. They're going

1679
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 11: to get it on the back end through these you know,

1680
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:44,560
Speaker 11: through the taxpayer subsidies funded subsidies.

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01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 6: We'll just jack the prices up a little more and

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01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 6: push our profits up.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 1: The funny part about that DATAVA is in spite of

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01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 1: the subsidies, all the automobile manufacturers were losing money, losing money.

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01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 1: They couldn't make money with a subsidy. Billions of dollars

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01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 1: written off by all these major automobile manufacturers because they

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01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 1: chase this elusive zero carbon world that the government forced

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01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 1: them to chase. A CAFE standards make it so much

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01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 1: so that you can't have an internal combustion engine that

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01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 1: could ever And because physics comes into equation, you can't

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01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 1: change the law of physics. I'm sadly for some congressmen

1693
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 1: that don't understand that. But physics prevents you from getting

1694
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,639
Speaker 1: whatever the CAFE standard is, so you've got to default

1695
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 1: to EV. So you manufacture a bunch of evs to

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01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:33,799
Speaker 1: make your overall fleet look like it's compliant. But nobody's

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01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 1: buying the dm evs, which means you end up making

1698
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 1: a loss on the production of EV's great Yep, yep.

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01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 11: It's the lunacy of top down control, right with folks

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01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 11: in Washington, bureaucrats in the you know, the deep state,

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01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 11: say just trust me, right, you know, the people don't understand.

1702
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 11: It's the trust the experts. Brian where have We.

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01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 2: Been with that.

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Speaker 1: We've heard that before. Trust the ivy for those who

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Speaker 1: was the religion and gospel for global warming. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: don't use that anymore. Donovan and Neil AFP call to

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Speaker 1: action for our listeners. How can they get involved in

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Speaker 11: We don't, I promise though, to your listeners. We don't

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Speaker 11: reach out and ask to start a chapter in your community.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 1: It's easy to do. AFP makes it so easy. Donovan' neil,

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Speaker 1: thanks for everything you're doing. Thanks for coming to the

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Speaker 1: program every week. We'll look forward to next week in

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Speaker 1: another discussion and another perhaps endorsement. Stay tuned Folk Congressman

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Speaker 1: Massey after the top of the hour news that's going

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Speaker 1: to be fun, and I will ask him where in

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Speaker 1: the hell of the FSC talkstation at five here a

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Speaker 1: fifty five kr CD talk station, A very happy one.

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Speaker 1: See if you always an extra special when we get

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Speaker 1: what might call my favorite hour of radio with Congressman

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Speaker 1: Thomas Massey, followed by Judge edit of Paula Tano. Say

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01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 1: what you want about the judge. He's got his own opinions.

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Speaker 1: He's entitled to them. Welcome back, Congressman Thomas Massey. Say

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Speaker 1: what you want about Congressman Massey. I know Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: says what he wants about you, sir. It's great to

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Speaker 1: have you back on the program. Always a pleasure, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Great to be on. You know. Occasionally I get a

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01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 2: mean tweet from the President, but then I get about

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01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 2: eighty thousand dollars a donation sent to my website every time.

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Speaker 2: That happens, mostly by people who like the President and

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01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:36,839
Speaker 2: like me as well.

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Speaker 1: Right that. See, that's me. Although I don't I haven't,

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01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, submitted to fealty to Donald Trump. I do

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01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 1: have my occasional criticisms of him, and I'm entitled to them.

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01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 1: I do share your profound appreciation and respect for the

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01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 1: ultimate law of the lamb, which is the Constitution. I've

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01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 1: got a lot of questions legal and otherwise about some

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01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 1: of the things Donald Trump has done. And you know,

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01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: we're entitled to have these discussions because it does exist

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Speaker 1: within a discussion of the Constitution and what the Constitution

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01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 1: allows and does not allow. But you know, I can

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01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 1: really appreciate you, but also appreciate the work that Donald

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01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 1: Trump has done, because he's got a lot accomplished for

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01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 1: the good of all the humanity in the United States

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01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 1: since he took office. So you just can't step out

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01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,839
Speaker 1: alive with him. When you're a politician, you're not allowed

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01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:25,799
Speaker 1: to suggest something independent of his idea.

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Speaker 2: I vote with the party ninety one percent of the time.

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Speaker 2: I'm almost embarrassed to tell you I do it that

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Speaker 2: many times. Yeah, it's the nine percent where they're bankrupting

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Speaker 2: a company or starting another war or trying to cover

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Speaker 2: up for pedophiles where I disagree with the party, and

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Speaker 2: then I get in trouble for taking the other path,

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Speaker 2: which is the constitutional path or the path of transparency.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's never the path of the Democrats necessarily. Although

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01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 1: going over to the Epstein files been a real puzzler

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01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 1: for literally everyone. We can go through the brief history

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Speaker 1: of it. Donald Trump even campaigned on getting the Epstein

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Speaker 1: files out there. The Democrats were in power under Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: They could have released them during that entire period of time,

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Speaker 1: because they were sitting in a back room somewhere. They

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Speaker 1: didn't lift a finger to release them. Donald Trump gets selected,

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Speaker 1: he then sort of does a one to eighty and

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Speaker 1: says no, no, there's nothing to see there. And then

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Speaker 1: the Democrats immediately say, well, Donald Trump doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: release them, so we all want to release them, resulting

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Speaker 1: in your discharge petition because you know that we are

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Speaker 1: entitled to see the Epstein files. And then everyone, with

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Speaker 1: a notable few exceptions, House and Senate votes to release

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Speaker 1: the Epstein files. Congressman Thomas Messey, he did sign that

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Speaker 1: piece of legislation. It was the law, or it is

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Speaker 1: the law of the land that those documents were supposed

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Speaker 1: to have been produced already. Am I wrong?

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Speaker 2: You're correct. The President signed my bill at which said

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Speaker 2: that the Epstein files were due by December nineteenth. We're

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Speaker 2: almost what, we're a month passed that date, and they've

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Speaker 2: released like maybe one percent of the files and things,

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Speaker 2: and the files that they're releasing are not the files

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Speaker 2: that we need. We've told them specifically, we want the

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Speaker 2: draft indictments. We want the three O two forms that

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Speaker 2: FBI fills out after they interview the victims. We want

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Speaker 2: the stuff that has the names in them. And we've

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Speaker 2: told them you can't redact them because you're trying to

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Speaker 2: protect internal deliberations. We want the internal deliberations. The law says,

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Speaker 2: give us the internal deliberations. So, because they've missed the deadline,

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Speaker 2: but more importantly, because they are over redacting these files,

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Speaker 2: we have asked the judge, Judge Ingelemeyer in the Southern

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Speaker 2: District of New York to appoint a special master to

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Speaker 2: oversee the reactions and the release of these files. And

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Speaker 2: the judge responded to us this week and told us

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Speaker 2: and the doj okay, give me your arguments within a

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Speaker 2: week and then and he may make some kind of

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Speaker 2: decision here. So that's our next step. There are other

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Speaker 2: avenues available to us legislatively and legally, legislatively, we could

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Speaker 2: find Pambondi in contempt. She is in contempt of Congress now,

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Speaker 2: especially because our law that the President signed also said

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Speaker 2: fifteen days after the original thirty day deadline, they've got

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Speaker 2: to give a report to Congress listing all the political

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Speaker 2: folks that they found in their files, and they have

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Speaker 2: to justify all the reactions. So they've missed both deadlines

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Speaker 2: now and one was specifically for a deliverable to Congress.

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Speaker 2: So they're in contempt of Congress. We can find them

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Speaker 2: in contempt. There's another level called inherent contempt, where you

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Speaker 2: could find her from the House of Representatives or send

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Speaker 2: the Sergeant at Arms to arrest her. We could do that.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't have to go to the Senate. We could

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Speaker 2: impeach her. That's a steep hill to climb in the Senate.

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Speaker 2: The threat of that might compel her to start following

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Speaker 2: the law. Or we could bring a lawsuit. The victims

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Speaker 2: could bring a lawsuit, or myself and the co author

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Speaker 2: of my build, Rokana, could bring a lawsuit if we

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Speaker 2: can establish standing in a court and then compel the

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Speaker 2: release of them. There's so many avenues. We're trying the

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Speaker 2: most polite avenue right now, which is to say, judge,

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Speaker 2: can you point a special master just to see what

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Speaker 2: they're doing over there?

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Speaker 1: Well, the law is on the books. I'm going back

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Speaker 1: to this whole idea that they swore to uphold. The

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Speaker 1: Constitution and faithfully execute the laws. That would include a

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Speaker 1: swear by Donald Trump as well as Pam BONDI right,

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Speaker 1: she took the oath as well, didn't she?

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Speaker 2: Yes. Here's another thing about the Well, go ahead, Brian.

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Speaker 1: I guess absence some argument that the law in and

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Speaker 1: of itself is unconstitutional, which I don't think anybody has

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Speaker 1: made that argument, although you can correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: The laws says what the law says. There's really nothing

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Speaker 1: to review here other than try to figure out a

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Speaker 1: remedy based upon the various people involved making the decisions

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Speaker 1: refusal to follow what the law specifically says.

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Speaker 2: They are making a legal argument that a first year

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Speaker 2: law student when no, doesn't hold any water. The legal

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Speaker 2: argument they're trying to make is that the Privacy Act

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Speaker 2: protects these people, the perpetrators who've not been indicted. Here's

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01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 2: the problem. Our bill, which is a newer law, overrides

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Speaker 2: the old law. They're saying because you didn't repeal the

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01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 2: Privacy Act, that the Privacy Act overrules your new bill.

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01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,599
Speaker 2: But our new bill is the law of the land

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01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 2: supersedes you don't have to yeah, supersedes it. And the

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01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 2: judges every judge in the country knows this. We just

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01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 2: need one judge to tell them. What's what. The other

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01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 2: thing they're doing is they're saying that our Foyer Standards

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Speaker 2: Freedom of Information Act allow us to redact things because

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01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 2: of internal deliberations. Well, here's the problem with this that

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01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:11,160
Speaker 2: this is not a Foyet This is not information law.

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01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 2: This freaking law the President signed.

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Speaker 12: And second of all, it says internal communications, including decisions

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Speaker 12: about whether to indict, decisions about this, and decisions about that.

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Speaker 2: It's all we need is like some judge somewhere to say, Pambindy,

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Speaker 2: you're full of it. And so that's hopefully we get

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Speaker 2: to that point soon. But here's what I was going

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01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 2: to say when I interrupted you. I'm sorry. I was

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01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 2: going to say, this is a law. And here's the

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Speaker 2: other feature of a law. Until it's repealed, it goes

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Speaker 2: on forever. So Pambondy, even though we could we could

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Speaker 2: refer contempt charges on her to the DJ, she's not

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01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 2: going to find herself contempt right, But the next Attorney

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01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 2: general could prosecute a prior attorney general for not following

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01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 2: this law because, unlike a congressional subpoena from the Oversight

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01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 2: Committee or the Judiciary Committee. This thing doesn't expire at

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01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 2: the end of our congrerect It goes on forever. Well,

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01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 2: so they're putting themselves in legal jeopardy, and you can

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01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 2: be darn sure there are going to be future attorney

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Speaker 2: generals who will prosecute this thing when they get in

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Speaker 2: that seat. Now, Pambonni hasn't arrested or indicted anybody, not Fauci,

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01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 2: nobody for any of the things that you know, we

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01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:38,680
Speaker 2: claim that's been going on, and we know that have

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01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 2: been going on. But I can guarantee you there will

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01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:42,640
Speaker 2: be ags who will be aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess to suppose the elephant in the room

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Speaker 1: is this amid all of this overwhelming legal support for

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Speaker 1: producing the damned documents, given what we just you know

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01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:55,720
Speaker 1: what you and I just just talked about here, the

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Speaker 1: big looming question is why would you even go down

1882
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:02,880
Speaker 1: this impeachment or contempt or whatever legal action road is

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01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 1: going to be in front of us inevitably? What is

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01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 1: the reason they aren't being produced? The real reason? Who

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01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 1: are they trying to cover or hide? These are the

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01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 1: questions that always pop up when you try to hide

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Speaker 1: the ball from the American people.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing. Pam Bondi's not in these files. Todd Blanche,

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Speaker 2: her deputy, is not in these files. Why are they

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01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 2: putting their heads their necks in a news literally, yes,

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01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 2: by violating this law, they could be charged criminally. Why

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01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 2: are they doing that? Who are they covering up for?

1893
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 2: Why is this so important to them? Why don't they

1894
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:44,600
Speaker 2: just comply with the law because they will get in

1895
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 2: trouble in the cover up. Not for releasing the things.

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Speaker 1: And going back to whether or not you like Donald

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01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 1: Trump or not, isn't a little bit revealing perhaps, or

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01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 1: one can might reach the conclusion that it's revealing that

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01:43:57,560 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 1: Donald Trump hasn't come out and say, what's the damn

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01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:02,559
Speaker 1: problem here? Get the documents out? Like the law that

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Speaker 1: I signed says to.

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Speaker 2: Do well, that's the thing that payin BONDI worked for him.

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01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 2: We know that he does just need to walk down

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01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 2: the hall and say do it or come out and

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01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 2: say do it right, So, in the absence of him

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01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:28,000
Speaker 2: compelling her, he's complicit. Now he and this thing, it's

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01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 2: like everything in the world is happening. I call these

1908
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:35,640
Speaker 2: weapons of mass distraction. And now they're trying to just

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01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 2: completely ignore the document production. It's literally ground to a halt,

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Speaker 2: and they've admitted they've only released about one percent of

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Speaker 2: the files. They say there are a million files they've found. Oh,

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Speaker 2: we didn't know we had a million files on st right,

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Speaker 2: which brings another question. How does how is there an

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Speaker 2: FBI file? It's a million files big okay, a folder

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Speaker 2: with a million files in it, which may be five

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Speaker 2: million pages, and there's only two people guilty. I'm not

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Speaker 2: buying it. Oh, no, show us the draft indictments where

1918
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Speaker 2: they had other people to indict that they didn't indict.

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Speaker 2: What happened with those indictments?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think if you're betting, and you're you wanted

1921
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Speaker 1: to put your money on a safe bet, I would

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Speaker 1: argue that anybody else who was facing an indictment probably

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Speaker 1: reached an out of court settlement with the victim and

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Speaker 1: a which also included a confidentiality agreement. Just one thought.

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Speaker 1: You can't get someone to testify you in a criminal trial.

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Speaker 1: You've already bought them off. There isn't going to be one.

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Speaker 1: Let's see Congress and Masthews.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and so our bill requires disclosure of those agreements.

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Speaker 2: Like we are pioneering here. This had This has never

1930
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Speaker 2: been done, as far as I know, in the history

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Speaker 2: of your country. Nobody actually got a law passed that said,

1932
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Speaker 2: for a specific case, you have to give us the

1933
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Speaker 2: grand jury material, you have to give us everything.

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Speaker 1: Well, that may answer some of the questions about Donald

1935
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Speaker 1: Trump's unleashing ire upon you and calling you the worst

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Speaker 1: Republican congressman. Just a thought. We'll continue with Congressman MASSI.

1937
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Speaker 1: We'll find out what the government shutdown based upon defunding ICE.

1938
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Speaker 1: Really maybe a word er chowing Venezuela and perhaps Ron

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Speaker 1: Thomas Massey Moore after this quick oh no, after these

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Speaker 1: brief words.

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Speaker 7: This is fifth station.

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Speaker 1: Hey twenty here fifty five krc DE talk station. Happy Wednesday,

1943
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Speaker 1: Judgenna Paulatano coming up next after well, may we finished

1944
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Speaker 1: the conversation we're having right now with Congressman Thomas Massey.

1945
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Speaker 1: Looks like are we going to face another government shutdown?

1946
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Speaker 1: I know it was all about the Obamacare COVID era

1947
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Speaker 1: subsidies before masking the reality of the epic failure that

1948
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Speaker 1: is Obamacare and doing nothing to lower the cost of healthcare,

1949
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:52,439
Speaker 1: just masking it. That was one reason we went through that.

1950
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Speaker 1: Are we going to do that? Again, or is it

1951
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Speaker 1: now going to be over ice funding, which I've heard

1952
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Speaker 1: some elected officials argue it should be.

1953
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Speaker 2: I would argue it should be over something else. By

1954
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Speaker 2: the way, the deadline is January thirtieth. The House is

1955
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Speaker 2: proceeding by passing mini buses, okay, but these aren't necessarily

1956
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Speaker 2: being passed in the Senate. And I think we could

1957
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Speaker 2: hit an impasse here pretty soon because I don't know

1958
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Speaker 2: how many of my colleagues are going to agree to

1959
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:27,479
Speaker 2: fund the fraudulent daycare centers in Minnesota, and how many

1960
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 2: will agree to fund the National Endowment for Democracy. This

1961
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 2: is like a three hundred million dollar fund that has

1962
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 2: been widely recognized now as a leftist but also a

1963
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:42,880
Speaker 2: neocon source of meddling in the world. But the money

1964
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:48,759
Speaker 2: also comes back and influences our own government. I've offered

1965
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Speaker 2: an amendment and I've co sponsored an amendment to take

1966
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Speaker 2: out the money for the National Endowment for Democracy. It'll

1967
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 2: be interesting to see how that plays out this week

1968
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Speaker 2: and then in quin weeks before January thirtieth. I've already

1969
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Speaker 2: got my amendments written to target basically to reduce and

1970
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:13,000
Speaker 2: eliminate this fraud in Minnesota. I don't know if you

1971
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 2: saw the president. This administration tried to withhold funding from

1972
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Speaker 2: five of the states where it's clearly fraudulent, and a

1973
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 2: judge ruled that you can't withhold the funding. He's got

1974
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Speaker 2: to send the funding there. And people are like, how

1975
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 2: can a judge have this much power? The reason the

1976
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 2: judge has that power to make that ruling.

1977
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Speaker 13: Is the President signed to freaking bill that funds all

1978
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Speaker 13: the fraudulent daycarees and Congress passed it. And we've got

1979
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Speaker 13: a chance January thirtieth to basically stop that. And then

1980
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Speaker 13: the judge can't make the president spend the money. All

1981
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Speaker 13: we got to do is change it in law. Spending

1982
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Speaker 13: bills are law, and that is coming up. That deadline

1983
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Speaker 13: is coming up January thirtieth.

1984
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Speaker 1: Hey, is it too much of an ask when drafting

1985
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Speaker 1: legs in connection with any large government program where a

1986
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 1: lot of money is going to be flowing out to

1987
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Speaker 1: the masses, to put in upfront protection measures that would

1988
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Speaker 1: prevent fraud, waste, and abuse before the money goes out

1989
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Speaker 1: the door of Congress from MASSI.

1990
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Speaker 2: That is, I've already drafted the amendment to do that. Literally,

1991
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:19,800
Speaker 2: it mirrors what the president is trying to do that.

1992
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Speaker 2: The judge has shut down. I draft an amendment that says,

1993
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Speaker 2: if you find fraud in a state, you can implement

1994
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Speaker 2: these safeguards, these guard rails before the money flows to

1995
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Speaker 2: that state. I literally wrote that into legislation. It's ready

1996
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Speaker 2: to go into the bill if the Rules Committee will

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Speaker 2: allow it. It would get a vote on the floor

1998
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Speaker 2: of the House. And it's just common sense. But here's

1999
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Speaker 2: what I predict what happened, Brian. I predict there will

2000
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 2: not be a shutdown. I predict myself and several other

2001
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:55,280
Speaker 2: Conservatives at the end are going to say, this is insanity.

2002
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:58,839
Speaker 2: We cannot fund all the fraudulent stuff that we just found.

2003
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:01,559
Speaker 2: We're not voting for this. And what they'll do is

2004
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 2: they'll go over to the other side of the aisle

2005
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 2: of the Democrats, and of course the Democrats will vote

2006
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:09,800
Speaker 2: for it. If it's got the fraudulent funding and the

2007
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 2: refugee resettlement funds and all that other stuff in it,

2008
01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:16,519
Speaker 2: they'll lap that up. It'll be the unipart it'll be

2009
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:19,799
Speaker 2: a uniparty bill on January thirtieth, and then the President

2010
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:23,960
Speaker 2: won't complain until after he signs the bill and it

2011
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Speaker 2: Judge says, no, wait, you're signing the build that funds

2012
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Speaker 2: all this stuff.

2013
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Speaker 1: Oh great, this is why we have you Congress with

2014
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:34,799
Speaker 1: Messi to boil it down to its darkest terms.

2015
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Speaker 2: You also wouldn't know, you wouldn't have somebody introducing legislation

2016
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:44,760
Speaker 2: that's bold enough to take out the fraudulent stuff. They

2017
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Speaker 2: will literally probably shut me down in the Rules Committee.

2018
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Speaker 2: I was on the Rules Committee for two years. I

2019
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 2: know how that works. This is where Republicans need to

2020
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 2: make their stand. There are nine Republicans and four Democrats

2021
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 2: on the Rules Committee. It would be so easy. You

2022
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 2: don't even need every Republican. You only need seven Republicans

2023
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:05,160
Speaker 2: on the Rules Committee to put these amendments in there.

2024
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:10,360
Speaker 2: That's that's where the stronghold is. But I'm going to

2025
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:14,439
Speaker 2: predict all nine Republicans cave on the Rules Committee, don't

2026
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 2: put it in there, and then complain later that the

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Speaker 2: fund that the money's in there.

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Speaker 1: Well, why don't you use social media to out the

2029
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:24,480
Speaker 1: names of the Republicans that are on the Rules Committee

2030
01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:26,519
Speaker 1: so we can bring about some measure of pressure from

2031
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Speaker 1: at least my listening audience and everybody else who follows

2032
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:32,040
Speaker 1: you on social media to get their phones ringing, their

2033
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 1: emails lit up, and the social media accounts overwhelmed with

2034
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, basically not threats but demands and and and

2035
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Speaker 1: please to get what you want done.

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Speaker 2: I I linked. I didn't put their names on there,

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Speaker 2: but I put a link to the Rules Committee website

2038
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Speaker 2: which has their names on it, so that folks can

2039
01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 2: find out if it's one of their congressmen that's on

2040
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:58,040
Speaker 2: the Rules Committee. But just go to the Rules Committee website.

2041
01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 2: It's right there. The nine republic that need to hear

2042
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:05,679
Speaker 2: put this in there. It's where it's where Lucy takes

2043
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 2: the football from the voters every single time. It's in

2044
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:12,639
Speaker 2: the Rules Committee and.

2045
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 1: Apparently where Republicans. Republicans stabbed their own constituents in the

2046
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 1: committee in the back. Congressman Thomas Massey find the Rules

2047
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:25,719
Speaker 1: Committee listeners, get in touch with Republicans on the Rules Committee,

2048
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 1: tell him to heed Congressman Massey's warning and get it done.

2049
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:32,400
Speaker 1: Congressman Thomas Massey can't thank you so much for joining

2050
01:52:32,479 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 1: the program. Keep fighting the good fight, and keep believing

2051
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:38,559
Speaker 1: in the supreme supreme law of the land because so

2052
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 1: many people just conveniently like to ignore it.

2053
01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:46,720
Speaker 3: In Milford, today is National Dress Up Your Pet Day. Well,

2054
01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:50,680
Speaker 3: our next guest was able to find a costume. This

2055
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:54,120
Speaker 3: is just so cute and dressed up his dog as

2056
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 3: Thomas Massey. Oh, you've got to go to Brian's blog

2057
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:05,679
Speaker 3: page and the Thomas Paulsy The judges next Chucking ramon

2058
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Speaker 3: fifty five KRC, the talk station, A.

2059
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Speaker 1: Thirty one fifty fout cars, the toss station. Judge Ednapolitano.

2060
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Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Are we experiencing technical difficulties this morning?

2061
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 1: Judge Trecker is trying to iron them out as we speak.

2062
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Speaker 1: Judge cannot currently hear my voice, although I see his

2063
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:31,479
Speaker 1: face on the zoom connection. He's kind of fading in

2064
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:34,240
Speaker 1: and out. Congressman Massey, I know you're busy holding on

2065
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:36,480
Speaker 1: online waiting to hear from the judge.

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Speaker 5: Something about a dog dressed up with Thomas Maddy.

2067
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Speaker 2: Did I catch that you did?

2068
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:45,719
Speaker 1: It's your dog apparently dress up your Pet Day or something.

2069
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 1: But Congressman Thomas Massey is literally listening right now. Is

2070
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 1: he decided to hold after my conversation in the last

2071
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:54,640
Speaker 1: segment with him because he wanted to hear what you

2072
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Speaker 1: had to say today. Welcome back to the Morning Show. Sir,

2073
01:53:57,400 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 1: it's a pleasure having you.

2074
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Speaker 5: Well, thank you, Brian. Sorry that we can't see each other.

2075
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:04,680
Speaker 5: I don't know what their technical glitch is. And I

2076
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 5: did not know that the greatest defender of the Constitution

2077
01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 5: the modern era was on right before me, or would

2078
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:14,080
Speaker 5: have come on a little bit earlier so that I

2079
01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:18,000
Speaker 5: could hear what he was saying. But Emerson Massy, thank

2080
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 5: you for taking the time to listen to us.

2081
01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 1: Well, you know you would have been You would have

2082
01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:26,720
Speaker 1: enjoyed the conversation and your column, which I read an

2083
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:30,559
Speaker 1: assault on the Republic. You're very critical of Donald Trump,

2084
01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:32,880
Speaker 1: and I understand that, and you know I occasionally, and

2085
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm warning my listening audience, do not call Joe Strecker

2086
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:38,680
Speaker 1: and complain about the judges thoughts and commentary. Joe has

2087
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. It's kind of crazy. Anytime

2088
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 1: you're critical in any way, shape or form of Donald Trump,

2089
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 1: the phones light up and Joe Strecker gets the brunt

2090
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 1: of the of the of the argument. But quite often

2091
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:53,480
Speaker 1: they're not seeing through to the legal arguments that you

2092
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:57,080
Speaker 1: are making. They're only hearing the criticism of the person

2093
01:54:57,160 --> 01:55:01,240
Speaker 1: who is caught runs contrary to you your perception of

2094
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 1: the law. The one thing I wanted to take from

2095
01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:05,760
Speaker 1: your column, which can spring from it. In the last segment,

2096
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 1: we talked to Congressman Thomas Massey about the law that

2097
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:12,320
Speaker 1: is on the books which forced the government to release

2098
01:55:12,400 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 1: the Epstein files by I guess it was the nineteenth

2099
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 1: last month or something. They didn't do it. There's apparently

2100
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:22,120
Speaker 1: a million plus documents behind the scene. Bondie won't release them.

2101
01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 1: No one will release them. They're going to have to

2102
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:26,360
Speaker 1: go to court. They might have to file a contempt hearing.

2103
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,960
Speaker 1: There is no fidelity to the rule of law. This

2104
01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:32,960
Speaker 1: is not faithfully upholding the Constitution and the laws of

2105
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 1: the United States of America. And I quite frankly am

2106
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 1: puzzled by the whole thing. But here's yet another illustration

2107
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:43,360
Speaker 1: of fast and loose with the well the power.

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Speaker 5: You know, I have been arguing, and I do this

2109
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Speaker 5: with deference and respect here listeners, not to arouse them,

2110
01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 5: but I've been arguing that there is a direct line

2111
01:55:56,880 --> 01:56:00,200
Speaker 5: to be drawn between what's happening in the street to

2112
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 5: Minneapolis and what happened in a bedroom in Caracas. This

2113
01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:10,200
Speaker 5: is all and what happened in the speedboat and fishing

2114
01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 5: boat killings in the Caribbean. This is all a specie

2115
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:17,240
Speaker 5: of might makes right. This is all a specie of

2116
01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:22,920
Speaker 5: rejecting the laws. When the president takes his oath of office,

2117
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 5: he promises to faithfully exercise his duties. The customers that

2118
01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 5: convention debated over the word faithfully, and Madison quite properly

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01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:36,800
Speaker 5: was worried that without that word in there, presidents would

2120
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Speaker 5: take the oath as carte blanche to enforce the laws

2121
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 5: they liked and forget about the laws they disliked. But

2122
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:46,160
Speaker 5: by putting the word faithfully in there, the president and

2123
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:49,320
Speaker 5: everybody in the executive branch, including the Attorney General, is

2124
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Speaker 5: subject to the laws, whether they like them or not.

2125
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Speaker 5: Congressman Massey happens to have ridden the crest of a

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Speaker 5: wave which resulted in all members of Congress but one

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Speaker 5: voting for this legislation, legislation that three days before it

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Speaker 5: was voted on, the President was still twisting arms to

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Speaker 5: try and get people not to vote or not to

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Speaker 5: sign the discharge impetition. So the Congress's voice is loud

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Speaker 5: and clear. Oh yeah, the President reluctantly signed this legislation

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Speaker 5: as the law she has no choice but to comply

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Speaker 5: with it. He can leak all he wants to the

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Speaker 5: Wall Street Journal that he doesn't like her. He can

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Speaker 5: tell us attorney's all he wants. You guys are losing

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Speaker 5: too many cases. But when it comes down to brass tacks,

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Speaker 5: the DOJ is not enforcing the law when it has

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Speaker 5: to be enforced against themselves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and as Massey pointed out, you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: new law, so it supersedes some of the earlier laws

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Speaker 1: that were on the book. Did some are arguing are

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Speaker 1: being violated because the new law says, release all the

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Speaker 1: Epstein files, including the FBI records, and maybe the settlement

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Speaker 1: agreements that have been reached between some noted notables and

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Speaker 1: anybody who might have been molested. You know, as he

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Speaker 1: pointed out, you know, you can't tell me with a

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Speaker 1: million files and maybe five million documents, only two people

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Speaker 1: have been held accountable for this, Juleane Maxwell and Epstein.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just too much there there and it

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Speaker 1: just ends up demanding the American public demands of all

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Speaker 1: political stripes. Give us the damned documents, let us draw

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Speaker 1: our own conclusions. That's what the law says.

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Speaker 5: Correct and Congressman Nasi is correct. As a matter of law,

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Speaker 5: a newly enacted legislation, just like a subsequently enacted amendment

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Speaker 5: to the Constitution. Trump's lowercase t that which preceded it.

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Speaker 5: Congress is presumed to intend to have overridden whatever might

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Speaker 5: be inconsistent with what it has, just so, the Epstein

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Speaker 5: Transparency Act is the law of the land. In the

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Speaker 5: Attorney General, she keeps claiming she has four hundred lawyers

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Speaker 5: and one hundred FBI agents going through the files. Nobody

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Speaker 5: believes that it couldn't possibly be taking them that long.

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Speaker 5: What are they redacting when they redact? Congressman Massing knows

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Speaker 5: that's better than I. They have to say what it is,

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Speaker 5: not who it is, but what it is. This was

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Speaker 5: redacted because it identified a thirteen year old girl who

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Speaker 5: was abused on the day. They have to put that

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Speaker 5: in the margin. They have done that. None of these

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Speaker 5: redactions explain in the margin what is being redacted or

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Speaker 5: why it was redacted. It is clear they don't want

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Speaker 5: to do their job. Dan Bongino resigned over this. I'm

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Speaker 5: not a Dan Bongino fan, but I believe he's been

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Speaker 5: intellectually honest in this respect. It is clear something's being hidden,

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Speaker 5: and they're going to drag their feet as long as.

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Speaker 1: They can, obviously, And of course that just ends up

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Speaker 1: raising burning questions like how come Donald Trump campaign to

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Speaker 1: releasing the Epstein files and then immediately did one to

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Speaker 1: eighty after he was elected and said there's nothing to

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Speaker 1: see there. I'm sorry, man, I can't abide by that,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a Republican or Democrat or anybody else in office.

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Speaker 1: And apparently, as you point out, overwhelmingly approve the legislation

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Speaker 1: to produce them. This is the first time I've seen

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Speaker 1: an exercise and bipartisanship along this level in as far

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Speaker 1: back as I can remember.

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Speaker 5: Correct, you know, Congressman Massy, in the most divisive partisan

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Speaker 5: era in modern memory in the Congress, demonstrated that when

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Speaker 5: you articulate clearly a value, and when the value resonates

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Speaker 5: in people's hearts hear the truth, you can achieve a

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Speaker 5: bipartisan goal. I can't imagine the Congressman Massy's voting record

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Speaker 5: coincides with Congressman Roe Kahana no All, but in this respect,

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Speaker 5: they achieved a marvelous by partisan role because they appealed

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Speaker 5: to people's sense of truth and honesty and fairness. And

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Speaker 5: they did this in the most radically partisan Congress in

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Speaker 5: recent memory. Congress so radically partisan that the leadership of

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Speaker 5: each party doesn't even want to talk to each other.

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Speaker 1: Well, going back to Congressman Massey's record, he did bring

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Speaker 1: that up in s by the way Donald Trump might

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Speaker 1: lead you to believe, calling him, I believe the worst

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Speaker 1: Republican congressman that exists, ninety one percent of his votes

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Speaker 1: went with the Republican Party judge of Politizer. So he's

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Speaker 1: got a sound record. If you just don't look at

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Speaker 1: any one given piece of legislation or anyone given position,

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Speaker 1: can I pivot of a real quickly, sir? The oral

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Speaker 1: arguments on in connection with upholding the transgender sports bands

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Speaker 1: that exist in a multitude states, argued yesterday. And in

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Speaker 1: spite of the fact that I did practice law for

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Speaker 1: quite a long time, I don't consider myself a constitutional lawyer,

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Speaker 1: but I will profess in reading not just the entire opinion,

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Speaker 1: in just reading the summaries of it. A lot of confusion.

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Speaker 1: Considering that someone calling themselves a sex that they're not

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Speaker 1: already confuses me. The line of questioning back and forth.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I had a difficult time working my way

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Speaker 1: through it, even though the general consensus from the legal

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Speaker 1: experts is the Supreme Court looks like it'll be upholding

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Speaker 1: the transgender sports bans. Any reaction from what you've read

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Speaker 1: about the arguments yesterday, sir well.

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Speaker 5: I could not agree with you, mal Thank you. Much

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Speaker 5: of what Justice Kavanaugh said was psychobabble out of the

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Speaker 5: editorial pages of newspapers, have nothing to do, nothing to

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Speaker 5: do with the law. Even my former debate partner and

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Speaker 5: longtime friend and Princeton classmate, Justice Alito, I thought, got

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Speaker 5: off into the weeds. The issue here is the right

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Speaker 5: of the states to legislate for health and safety versus

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Speaker 5: the commands of the Congress that the state not discriminate

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Speaker 5: on the basis of sex.

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Speaker 2: What does that.

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Speaker 5: Word mean In nineteen sixty four, when the first of

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Speaker 5: these statutes was written, and in nineteen seventy two, when

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Speaker 5: the second of these statutes was written, it meant gender.

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Speaker 5: Today it has such a broad meaning that it has

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Speaker 5: anything whatsoever to.

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Speaker 2: Do with sex.

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Speaker 5: My person I admire most on the Court was did

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Speaker 5: not tip his hand yesterday, Justice Gorsuch. He's the one

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Speaker 5: who wrote the opinion along with the liberals on the Court,

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Speaker 5: applying the Civil Rights Act of sixty four to LGBTQ,

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Speaker 5: even though the Senate expressly rejected that. In sixty four,

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Speaker 5: twice they used a word sex, which today means sexuality.

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Speaker 5: So it's it's hard to fathom what is meant by

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Speaker 5: this word today compared to what it was meant by

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Speaker 5: it two generations ago. But it's pretty clear this will

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Speaker 5: be five to four, the Chief Justice with the Conservatives

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Speaker 5: and Corsage with the liberals, upholding the right of the

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Speaker 5: state to protect little girls from competition by biological boys.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's hope that common sense prevails. And look how

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Speaker 1: far we've come. Where you and I would have agreed

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Speaker 1: all day long, as would every single physician on the planet,

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Speaker 1: that sex is whether you're a male or female, defined

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Speaker 1: by your chromosomal reality. Boy, we have gone way, way,

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Speaker 1: way the hell away from that. But that's what was

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Speaker 1: thought about and discussed when they passed the title nine, right,

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Speaker 1: that's all they were considering context right.

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Speaker 5: Now when they passed it. When they passed this stuff

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Speaker 5: in sixty four and seventy two, the concept of gender

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Speaker 5: transitioning wasn't even in the wildest imaginations of Ballmaker's much.

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Speaker 2: Less doctors.

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Speaker 1: Reinvent history, much in the way they're reinventing the language

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Speaker 1: and definitions that we use radically, sounding like or well

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Speaker 1: in the Ministry of truth. The judge entered Apolitano. God

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Speaker 1: bless you, sir. I know the Congressman mass has been

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Speaker 1: enjoying the conversation, and I appreciate your support to him,

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Speaker 1: and he appreciate heates his I know you appreciate his

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Speaker 1: support of you.

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Speaker 7: Sir.

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Speaker 1: We'll have you on next Wednesday. Do it again. God

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Speaker 1: bless you, and thanks again for your commentary.

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Speaker 2: Sir.

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Speaker 5: Thank you all the best to Congressman Massy, to you

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Speaker 5: and to your audience.

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Speaker 1: Brian appreciate it much. It's eight forty four right now

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Speaker 1: if you have kc DE talk station