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Speaker 2: Because I'm not sure many of the things we talk

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Speaker 2: about today are going to be that enjoyable. No, Tony,

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Speaker 2: that team yesterday did not quit, because to me, you

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Speaker 2: get go look checked out.

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Speaker 4: Yep, it's the first time I have sincerely questioned them

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Speaker 4: playing hard for their coach. We could talk about many

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Speaker 4: things we'll talk about today. We could talk about scheme,

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Speaker 4: we could talk about their overall lack of preparation. It

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Speaker 4: felt like for any Blitz pickup. We could talk about

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Speaker 4: players just having off days. No, we could talk about

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Speaker 4: a sixteen play drive while down seventeen points. But one

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Speaker 4: sincerely asked if this team is playing hard for their

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Speaker 4: you that team yesterday looked like they were trying hard

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Speaker 4: game for it, Yep, and rightfully, so that team looked

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Speaker 4: checked out. They looked ill prepared, It looked like their

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Speaker 3: And by the way, among those who look checked out

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 2: He's not exempt from this by any stretch. In fact,

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Speaker 3: But you're right.

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Speaker 2: My my take on Zach Taylor has always been at

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, coaching teams that were making last dash,

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Speaker 2: or even an uneven season like this one. They've always

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Speaker 2: played hard. They've always looked into their jobs collectively. Maybe

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Speaker 3: That's a problem.

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Speaker 2: You know, Zach Taylor, we talk about play calling, and

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Speaker 2: It would have been one thing had they checked out

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Speaker 4: First quarter, especially on the offensive side of the ball. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but just from a sheer effort standpoint, it was lacking. Yesterday.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned Joe Burrow. You and I were texting back

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Speaker 4: extremely peculiar seeing him that disinterested on a field. Also,

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Speaker 4: a slant. Jamar Chase was not great yesterday either collectively

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Speaker 4: It's so peculiar. And the Jamar Chase comments after the

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Speaker 4: right now from a storyline standpoint, pick where you want

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you use the word that I think applies. Something's off.

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Speaker 2: Something is off in the dynamic between the team Joe

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Speaker 2: Jamar something's missing, something is off. I'm not qualified to

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Speaker 2: what that looks like. I've watched football for forty years.

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Speaker 2: I know body language, though, I know what it looks

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Speaker 2: Because the game is hanging by a thread, Bengals have

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Speaker 2: Down seventeen to nothing. Not easy by any stretch. It's

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Speaker 2: The Joe Burrow that I've watched for six and a

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Speaker 3: That was the snapshot of the game.

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Speaker 2: And to me, that was a snapshot of this Joe

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like that.

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Speaker 3: To me, that was the snapshot white flag. That was

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Speaker 2: That was a snapshot of a player who is there's

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Speaker 3: That ain't the Joe Burrow that I know.

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Speaker 4: Here's my worrisome part. I can speak to this as

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Speaker 4: that to me, that was what it looked like yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: being off on some throws, missing some checks. They come

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Speaker 4: that play one hundred times, Joe burrought those one on

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Speaker 4: one to Jamar Chase ninety nine times. Why throw it

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Speaker 4: that to me looked like a guy that wasn't checked

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Speaker 4: into the game itself. That there is something else going on,

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Speaker 4: whether it's with the team, whether it's his personal life.

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Speaker 4: Something is going on with number nine, because the play

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Speaker 4: we saw yesterday does not match the guy we saw

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Speaker 4: the week before in Buffalo. You mentioned, you know a

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Speaker 4: a competitor if you're not gauging everybody else. Of course,

437
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Speaker 4: Lamar's won Mvpece Mahomes has won super Bowls. I know

438
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Speaker 4: they're down this year, but you're not judging yourself there

439
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Speaker 4: because he's won them. If I'm Joe Burrow, I'm looking

440
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Speaker 4: at josh Adam like how are they doing it? Uh huh?

441
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Speaker 4: Or they've made the steps necessary to be successful. If

442
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Speaker 4: I'm Joe Burrow, I look at like Seattle, like Sam

443
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 4: Darno could throw four picks in a game and it

444
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Speaker 4: doesn't matter because their defense is so good. They built

445
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Speaker 4: around him. Look at the team you played in the

446
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl who mortgaged everything to win a Super Bowl

447
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Speaker 4: and they are already back quicker than you. What's Matthew

448
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Speaker 4: Stafford have around him? Or they moved on from Cooper

449
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 4: Cup and they bring in Devonte Adams, They've got pookin Nakua,

450
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Speaker 4: They've drafted well Kyron Williams. Their defense is a legitimate

451
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl contender. If I'm Joe Burrow, I'm looking around

452
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Speaker 4: and I'm like, well, Lamar's got some MVPs, Mahomes has

453
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Speaker 4: some titles. Josh Allen got an MVP. Now he's the

454
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Speaker 4: leader right now in the AFC. Here come the Patriots,

455
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Speaker 4: Here come all these other teams. What are we doing?

456
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Speaker 4: And again, like dan Orlofski said a lot last week, yes,

457
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Speaker 4: one of the things that dan Orlofski said was I

458
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Speaker 4: think we're now near. We're closer to the end of

459
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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow in Cincinnati than the Super Bowl Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: That's true because right now they don't feel like a

461
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Speaker 4: super Bowl contender, and they don't feel like they're getting close.

462
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 4: And if I'm Joe Burrow and I'm like, I got

463
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Speaker 4: all this on my back, and yet I'm watching all

464
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Speaker 4: these other teams that also pay big money to a

465
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Speaker 4: quarterback or also pay star players successfully build rosters around

466
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Speaker 4: each other, then I'm gonna be frustrated as well. And

467
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 4: I'm mentally going to be frustrated, especially when I bust

468
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Speaker 4: my ass to come back from an injury, I'm busting

469
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Speaker 4: tail too. I can come back and be with these guys,

470
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Speaker 4: and I can celebrate with my team on Thanksgiving Night

471
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Speaker 4: and watch the whole team emotionally around me, Only for

472
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Speaker 4: this to be the outcome. Heck, Gay's pissed emotionally, He's

473
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Speaker 4: out of it. Mentally, He's out of it, and he

474
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Speaker 4: should be if he's watching everyone else in the NFL losing?

475
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Speaker 3: Where's you out?

476
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Speaker 4: When are you gonna like? If I'm Joe, when am

477
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Speaker 4: I gonna get mine? When's it my time? And that

478
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Speaker 4: feels further away now than ever?

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Speaker 3: I'm sure for him, how could it not? Like the question?

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Speaker 3: You know, folks ask, was he gonna do it? Andrew

481
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Speaker 3: Luck did and retire in what should be the prime

482
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Speaker 3: of his career and stun everybody. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Is he going to do what Carson Palmer did and

484
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Speaker 2: put a gun to the Bengals and say I'll retire

485
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Speaker 2: if you don't trade me.

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Speaker 3: I don't know the problem is if you ask, the.

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Speaker 2: Bengal's going to win a title between now In twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty nine, the last year of his contract, the question

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Speaker 2: is either I don't know or no, you don't feel

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Speaker 2: good about that answer.

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Speaker 4: And because the answer is I don't know to the

492
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Speaker 4: first two questions you asked, as an organization, you better

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Speaker 4: operate as if the answer.

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Speaker 3: Could be yes, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't need it to be cut and dry. But

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Speaker 4: if there's any shadow of a doubt that he could

497
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Speaker 4: put a gun to your head and say get me

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Speaker 4: out of here, if he could say I'm done, then

499
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Speaker 4: you better start acting accordingly.

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Speaker 3: Well. And we both talked about this last week. You

501
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Speaker 3: discussed it today with Austin. I'll bring it up today.

502
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Speaker 3: Like my take with this whole thing has been, don't

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Speaker 3: tempt eight. Yeah, if a year from now.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals are what have they played fourteen games and

505
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Speaker 2: they're four and ten? Again, what do you think, Joe?

506
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Speaker 2: What do you think Joe's demeanor is going to be

507
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Speaker 2: at some point next year? Do you think he's gonna

508
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Speaker 2: say when he's asked about his football mortality or his confidence?

509
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Speaker 2: And he did say a lot of the correct things yesterday,

510
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Speaker 2: and you know it, I hate to put it this way.

511
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Speaker 2: It helped that he played as poorly as he did,

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Speaker 2: and he was awful.

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Speaker 3: But if you think this is.

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Speaker 2: Manufactured, This is a media creation, This is something that

515
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Speaker 2: people are acting irresponsible with. Okay, fine, let's see what

516
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Speaker 2: it sounds like if they're four and ten again next year.

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Speaker 2: And let's see what it sounds like if he's back

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Speaker 2: at the surgeon's table.

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Speaker 4: I want my quarterback to be like that. Yes, If

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Speaker 4: my quarterback at four and ten is just like, hey,

521
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Speaker 4: we'll get back to work this week and we'll go

522
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Speaker 4: attack next week, then I don't want that. I want

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Speaker 4: the uber competitive, wanting to win guy. I also want

524
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Speaker 4: a guy. And again, we've had these conversations before multiple times.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday he took borderline cheap shots. Any lineman run over

526
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Speaker 4: there and get a fifteen yards?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 4: Did his coach show any emotion?

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Speaker 3: None.

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Speaker 4: If I'm watching that, I'm looking around like anybody, anybody

531
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Speaker 4: want to help me out?

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Speaker 8: M hm.

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Speaker 4: Probably feels pretty helpless as is. And again, you and

534
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Speaker 4: I had these conversations before. I watched him get put

535
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Speaker 4: on his back multiple times yesterday. Didn't see anyone going

536
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Speaker 4: over there to start a fight. Didn't see anyone going

537
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Speaker 4: over there say hey, we're not doing that, you're not

538
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Speaker 4: hitting my guy. Didn't see the head coach and the

539
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Speaker 4: offensive coordinator screaming at the ref saying what are we

540
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Speaker 4: doing here? Just kind of solid status quo, that stuff

541
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Speaker 4: all all wrapped in, all warped into one. All of

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Speaker 4: this goes into to Joe Burrow's frustrations.

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Speaker 2: said plan is for Joe Burrow to play out this string.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati has the Miami Dolphins on Sunday. I remember that

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Speaker 2: College Football.

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Speaker 3: You see quarterback Brendan Soresby probably not gonna be You

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Speaker 3: see quarterback Brendan Soarsby much longer. He is putting his

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Speaker 3: name in the transfer portal.

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Speaker 2: We'll spend some time on that a little bit later

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Speaker 2: on The Mark Pope Radio Show is tonight at six

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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty. The Richard Patino Radio Show is

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Speaker 2: tonight at seven on fifty five KRC. Coach Patino joins

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Speaker 2: US coming up at five five. Kentucky and the Miami

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Speaker 2: Radhawks both got votes in the AP Top twenty five

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Speaker 2: Men's College Basketball poll. Miami got four, Kentucky got nineteen,

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Speaker 2: Indiana four after the Wildcats beat them on Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: One other UC football note, Evan tengas Doll named third

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Speaker 2: team AP All American, had an excellent season on a

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Speaker 2: very good Bearcats offensive line.

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Speaker 4: Good weekend Xavier, Louisville, Miami, uk nk U Dayton all

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Speaker 4: one on the college basketball slate, and Adolas Garcia got

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Speaker 4: at one year ten million dollars from the Phillies, OH

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Speaker 4: power hitter position of need Reds.

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Speaker 3: When does the offseason begin for the Reds.

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Speaker 4: It's ended. They weren't on Kyle Schwarber. Offseason has ended.

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Speaker 2: When we were, you know, we were broadcasting from the

596
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Speaker 2: Holy Grail yesterday, and I didn't point this out to

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Speaker 2: either you or Ken because the first I thought it

598
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Speaker 2: was Ken's Uber driver. But there was a gentleman standing

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Speaker 2: outside the ballpark and had a like a Reds team

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Speaker 2: employee badge. Yeah, holding a bucket if anybody wanted to

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Speaker 2: throw throw some money.

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Speaker 4: At the time of the year, one of.

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Speaker 3: Those Salvation Army kettles h red Kettle campaign for Reds

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Speaker 3: free agents.

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Speaker 4: I do I do this was asked to me, and

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Speaker 4: I'll ask you outside of the job Richard Patino has

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Speaker 4: done to turn things around for Xavier right now, I

608
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Speaker 4: still don't know at the end of the year of

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Speaker 4: Xavier's an NCAA tournament team. If you think of where

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Speaker 4: you see is where the Reds currently are, where the are?

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Speaker 4: Where do you rate this from a stretch point of

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Speaker 4: the lows? I mean, twenty twenty two feels like decades

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Speaker 4: ago where we're talking about U see college Football playoff,

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Speaker 4: Bengals super Bowl, you know, Reds. I thought had some

615
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Speaker 4: pieces in place that we're gonna start making some noise.

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Speaker 4: It feels like a decade ago. So like I have

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Speaker 4: friends in my life, family members that are die hard

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati sports fans, yes, and they are struggling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know for me, you know, you see

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Speaker 3: basketball is number one, and I think it is for

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Speaker 3: you as well, yes, the last few weeks have been

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Speaker 3: extraordinarily disheartening.

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Speaker 4: I don't know the last time I have felt this

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Speaker 4: low on UC basketball.

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Speaker 2: You see football losing the final four games. I didn't

626
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Speaker 2: expect a Big Twelve title. I expected a win in November,

627
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Speaker 2: didn't get it. I didn't believe the Reds were gonna

628
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Speaker 2: land Kyle Schwarber, but I was hoping by now it

629
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Speaker 2: would feel like there was a sense of urgency to

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Speaker 2: make the team better.

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Speaker 4: They didn't land him, and then the open honesty about, yeah,

632
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Speaker 4: we were gonna do him because he's a hometown guy.

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Speaker 4: We're not gonna get anybody else.

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Speaker 3: And then the way things have unfolded with the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: And like I get people always bring up like, well,

636
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Speaker 4: the dark times. I get that, But during those times,

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Speaker 4: was it Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase on the roster? No,

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Speaker 4: like where you're talking about the best at their position

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Speaker 4: in the league arguably, Yeah, where it feels like they're

640
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Speaker 4: just being wasted and we're in this purgatory right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, this isn't the mid twenty tens with the

642
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Speaker 2: Reds where they're losing ninety four to ninety five games.

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Speaker 3: Like I actually think they have a chance.

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Speaker 2: To be Okay, it feels like I have a higher

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Speaker 2: opinion of them than they do. Right, the Bengals have

646
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Speaker 2: wasted three years of a legitimate A list or at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You see football feels like it's stuck in quicksand and

648
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Speaker 2: you see basketball and I hate to say this, it

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Speaker 2: feels like it's going backwards. Now, those are the teams

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Speaker 2: I care about most. I'll fold Xavier into the conversation,

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Speaker 2: and I think if you're a Musketeers fan, I don't

652
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Speaker 2: think they're an NCAA tournament team, but there's more winnable

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Speaker 2: games in the Big East, and you look at that

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Speaker 2: coach and you're like, all right, we upgrade the talent,

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Speaker 2: like we'll be fine. And that's nothing against the players

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Speaker 2: who are playing, because you know Philip Orr of eachen

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Speaker 2: In and we saw what Trey Carroll did against Ucee.

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Speaker 2: Like some of those guys have gotten better and evolved

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Speaker 2: very nicely into roles. But I think if you're a

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Speaker 2: Xavier fan, you feel like we got our guy, like

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Speaker 2: we got our guy and if they get dudes, And

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Speaker 2: I know money is reportedly a little bit of an

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Speaker 2: issue there, but like you got your guy right man.

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Speaker 2: For the teams we care about most, it's hard, but

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Speaker 2: you are more than welcome Tomorrow night. I'll give you

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Speaker 2: a You know you're taller than me, but if I

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Speaker 2: give you some Knick's gear for tomorrow night Prime video

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Speaker 2: NBA Cup nine o'clock huge Nick Spurs rematch in the

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Speaker 4: Nine well tuned in at the podcast, Hold, we will

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Speaker 4: be tuned in.

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Speaker 2: A couple of things. We always talked about the AFC North. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh plays tonight. Did the Baltimore Ravens if you were

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Speaker 2: out on Baltimore before yesterday? Are you in on them

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Speaker 2: after yesterday's game? They were sort of an accessory to

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Speaker 2: the game yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think they did anything great defensively. Bengalsaid

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Speaker 4: no answer for pressure, which is shocking to me. Went

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Speaker 4: into the game, yes, and I said, what played the

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Speaker 4: team sixteen days ago? It's an AFC North opponent. This

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Speaker 4: game will come down to adjustments and scheme and coaching.

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Speaker 4: And I thought the Bengals didn't have enough answers yesterday.

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Speaker 4: But no, I don't look at that that way. I

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Speaker 4: was asking, like, as a Bengal fan, Yeah, do I

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Speaker 4: want to see Pittsburgh or Baltimore getting the playoffs. I'd

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Speaker 4: rather see Pittsburgh because I don't think they can make

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Speaker 4: a run. Yes, with the teams that will be in

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Speaker 4: right now in the AFC, I could see Baltimore getting

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Speaker 4: hot at the right time.

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Speaker 3: I could see Lamar turning into Superman for a game

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Speaker 3: or two.

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Speaker 4: Still I don't see that in Pittsburgh. So let Pittsburgh

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Speaker 4: get in lose in the first round. But no, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't see it with the Baltimore Ravens. I see

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Speaker 4: it a little more than I do with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 4: But you think Pittsburgh wins tonight, Yeah, I do too

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Speaker 4: to I mean the weather. He's never won a game

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Speaker 4: in under what fifty degree weather? He's not gonna win one,

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Speaker 4: probably in Pittsburgh tonight. I was a little surprised at

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Speaker 4: how bad the Browns performed defensively.

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Speaker 3: I thought they were going to cover the number in

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Speaker 3: that game.

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Speaker 4: But I think that's more credit to what Ben Johnson

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Speaker 4: is doing in year one with Caleb Williams and that team.

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Speaker 3: Who plays in a playoff game next the Bengals or

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: Chiefs, they'll get my homes back next year, they'll retool.

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Speaker 3: If you had to pick one team to win the

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Speaker 3: AFC this year, who would it be Buffalo?

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Speaker 4: I think Buffalo. Yesterday coming back from twenty one points down,

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Speaker 4: I think they showed a lot that of how they

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Speaker 4: can do it. And they're very much now back in

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Speaker 4: their division race. They still have a lot to play for.

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Speaker 4: You know, a lot of my decisions are based on

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Speaker 4: quarterback play, and they've got one of the best ones

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Speaker 4: on the planet right now.

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Speaker 3: How close to the on upper crust of quarterback as

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 4: He's getting closer with every week. My goodness, five touchdowns yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Liam Cohen seems to have figured it out. They've They've

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Speaker 4: utilized etn in a way that I always was wondering.

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Speaker 4: He's a pass catcher as well. He was great for

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Speaker 4: them in that role yesterday. It's it's the best or

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Speaker 4: one of the best rush defenses in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 4: If I'm in the AFC, Jacksonville and Houston missed me

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Speaker 4: on either one of them.

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Speaker 2: I love watching the Texans play, and C. J. Sprout

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Speaker 2: was good yesterday.

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Speaker 4: He's getting better with each start. Nico, they finally realized, like, hey,

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Speaker 4: we get Nico Collins still the Higgins, their rookie wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: I think they hit on the running back situation. It's

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Speaker 4: kind of by committee right now. Offensive line I don't

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Speaker 4: think is still there, but you won't talk about a

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Speaker 4: championship defense. They got that in every every bit more.

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Speaker 3: How close to the upper tier of quarterbacks is Philip Rivers?

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Speaker 4: He's not very close. Somehow managed to put up a

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Speaker 4: lot more points than the Bengals did yesterday on a

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Speaker 4: road against a very good team in Seattle. How worried

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Speaker 4: are you about Trey McBride coming to Cincinnati in a

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Speaker 4: few weeks The NFL leader the game doesn't matter, but

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Speaker 4: the NFL leader in receptions right now as a tight end.

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Speaker 2: I had Trey McBride in fantasy, but I didn't make

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, and that's championship weekend and so and I've

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Speaker 2: been playing for the championship. I feel really good about

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Speaker 2: having Trey McBride.

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Speaker 4: My daily fantasy is going to be like eleven thousand

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Speaker 4: dollars when they play the Bengals, and he's doing incredible things.

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Speaker 4: Let's discuss your stafford.

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Speaker 2: It's probably Stafford, but I think Allen's going to make

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Speaker 2: a late charge in winning. Okay, but it's Stafford for now.

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Speaker 2: You know, for two weeks I thought it was gonna

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Speaker 2: be Jonathan Taylor. That's obviously not gonna happen. Drake May

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Speaker 2: you know, if New England doesn't blow that lead yesterday,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's a little bit different.

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Speaker 3: But I'm back on the Rams bandwagon.

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Speaker 4: Me too.

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Speaker 2: I'm back. And you know you said it before. You

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Speaker 2: You've emphasized this. When the Rams won that Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: it was Man, They're gonna stink forever. They had one

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Speaker 2: down year when five and.

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Speaker 4: The sacrificed all their draft picks.

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Speaker 2: Yep, let's talk about what some current and former NFL

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Speaker 2: players had to say about the Bengals yesterday. When we

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Speaker 2: come back. Tony and Mo Football Show twin Peaks in

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Speaker 1: The Bengals and Dolphins meet up in Miami for a

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Speaker 3: Or of the Tony and Mo Football Show.

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Speaker 2: We're at Twin Peaks in Florence here till six o'clock

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Speaker 2: day after the Bengals no showed against the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 2: If you haven't been to Twin Peaks, we've been doing

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Speaker 2: the food, love the beer, love the bourbon, love the location.

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Speaker 2: We're in Florence this week and next We're back in

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Speaker 2: Westchester for the show on the twenty ninth, and then

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Speaker 2: we come back to Florence for unfortunately, the season finale

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Speaker 2: on January the fifth, so we have four to go tone.

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Speaker 4: We confirm, we can confirm that is the finale.

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Speaker 3: That unfortunately will be the finale.

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Speaker 4: Are we doing anything next week for the Christmas show?

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Speaker 4: What would you like to do I don't know the

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Speaker 4: in gift exchange. They would do a gift to any Bourbon.

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Speaker 2: Gift exchange where people bring us gifts and we exchange

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Speaker 2: our thanks, knowledge and thanks. We talked about the game

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Speaker 2: and a lot of the subsequent storylines coming out of

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Speaker 2: the game. I don't want to spend a ton of

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Speaker 2: time on this, but it was a story yesterday how

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Speaker 2: the Bengals handled the snowy seats.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's your take? I thought it was weak. I

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Speaker 4: thought it was You put it out there as well.

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Speaker 4: They did the bare minimum of what was required. And

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Speaker 4: my I view it as an experience. That's what you're

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Speaker 4: trying to sell. You're selling an experience. And the unfortunate

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Speaker 4: part with this team right now is the on field

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Speaker 4: experience isn't very good. So if you want people to

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Speaker 4: come back, then the experience needs to push them to

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Speaker 4: want to do that. It wasn't like folks were getting

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Speaker 4: to their seats yesterday and just having to to dust

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Speaker 4: off a you know, a half inch of snow. A

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Speaker 4: lot of folks were having to go through ice, you know.

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Speaker 4: Austin talked earlier on the show about having to use

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Speaker 4: keys or credit cards or shoes to break ice off

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Speaker 4: of the seats like that. To me, it wasn't like

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Speaker 4: the snowstorm snuck up on anybody. You knew what the

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Speaker 4: weather was going to be. It to me, sours a

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Speaker 4: fan base that's already agitated, already upset, and I think

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Speaker 4: it's I think it's to an extent disrespectful to a

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Speaker 4: fan base who, let's call it what it is. When

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Speaker 4: you've won four games, it's not easy for fans to

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Speaker 4: want to go to games. It's also not easy when

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Speaker 4: it's when it's under ten degrees outside. And the fans

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Speaker 4: that went there yesterday should have been rewarded with some

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Speaker 4: type of experience. Instead, it was an experience of Wow,

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Speaker 4: I've got to clean this now, all out of my chair,

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Speaker 4: my seat.

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Speaker 2: My first job was at a restaurant in Covington, the

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Speaker 2: Beal Street Cafe, owned by a guy named Tommy Beal,

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Speaker 2: and I remember listening to him talk about the fact

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Speaker 2: that rule number one was we'd never take our.

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Speaker 3: Customers for granted.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, the bare minimum is show up, give them

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Speaker 2: a menu, take their order, bring them a plate of food.

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Speaker 2: I want these people to want to come back. I

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Speaker 2: want these people to want to come back, even if

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Speaker 2: you know what, the meal they had wasn't the best,

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Speaker 2: because I want them to have such a good experience

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Speaker 2: that you go, you know what, I'll try something else.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to take these people for granted.

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Speaker 2: The number one thing I've always tried to carry with

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Speaker 2: me as a radio host, say what you want about

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Speaker 2: whatever weakness is or deficiencies I have, and I have

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Speaker 2: many always tried to keep in mind, you never take

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Speaker 2: your audience for granted. You never take your customers for granted.

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Speaker 2: I thought yesterday the Bengals took their customers for granted.

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Speaker 2: I think by the letter of what the NFL asks,

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Speaker 2: they fulfilled their requirement. I don't think anybody say he

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Speaker 2: was put in jeopardy. I don't think anybody was like

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Speaker 2: put in harm's way. But to me, you have a choice.

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00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: You can decide we're gonna do what's required, or we're

870
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: gonna go above and beyond. We're gonna go above and

871
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: beyond and ensure that people have the most comfortable experience possible.

872
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: We want to send a message, hey, look the snowstorm hit,

873
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: but our team hasn't been very good.

874
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: This year.

875
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 2: We're in the single digits. Wind chills are below zero.

876
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: There's some built in discomfort to come into this game.

877
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: We're not gonna make it any more uncomfortable, and so

878
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna go above and beyond. They had a choice,

879
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 2: they chose not to. You may think that's okay. I

880
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: certainly understand. There's plenty of boot lickers out there who

881
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: think the Bengals do no wrong who will tell you,

882
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: I know, a big deal, it's football.

883
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 3: What okay?

884
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 2: From my perspective, you don't take your customers for granted.

885
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: If people have decided to spend their hard earned money

886
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: with you and invest their time.

887
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 3: With you, and those.

888
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: Two things are different but similar. You do not you

889
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: go above and beyond for them. You do everything you

890
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: can for them. And the Bengals didn't do that yesterday,

891
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: and so whatever fallout they get, they deserve.

892
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 3: Again. You may not care.

893
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 2: You may have gone to the game yesterday and had

894
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: no issue with snow being on your seat. That is

895
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: totally fine, But that was an opportunity yesterday for the

896
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 2: Bengals to go you know what, can't thank you enough

897
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: for coming to this game. We're gonna do everything we

898
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: can to ensure the best possible experience, and that is

899
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: as simple as cleaning snow and ice off seats.

900
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 4: Especially when other stadiums across the country did. Yeah, now,

901
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 4: it wasn't as cold as a freezer bowl yesterday, so

902
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 4: let's not get out of hand.

903
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, of.

904
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 4: Course, you know, I equate it to similar like if

905
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 4: I you come to a restaurant and you sit down

906
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 4: and your table's dirty? Yeah, are you expected to clean

907
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 4: that table off and then go through the meal like

908
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: it's normal and want to come back. It's the same

909
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: thing yesterday. You get there and you have to be

910
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 4: the one that gets your seat ready, Yeah, to watch

911
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 4: a game. And again, it's one thing if it's a

912
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 4: dustiness snow and it's one wipe and I'm good to go.

913
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 4: It's ice, it's snow, and it was expected. You knew

914
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 4: what the forecast was going to be. And let's let's

915
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 4: face it, when you pair that with the product on

916
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 4: the field. Right, again, you don't want to take people

917
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 4: for granted because there's people that might have that might

918
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 4: have been their only game they saw all year. Yeah,

919
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: like I don't know what am I going to come

920
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:21,479
Speaker 4: back here?

921
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 3: Right?

922
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 4: Like, that's what's on the field, and this is what

923
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 4: was off the field. What are we doing? It's just

924
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 4: like you said, don't you can't take for granted the lengths.

925
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 4: It's not cheap to go to these games.

926
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

927
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 4: The weather was not conducive yesterday and the team on

928
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 4: the field is not very good. Yeah, and you still

929
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 4: had people that said, Okay, I'm gonna go down and

930
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 4: support this organization, support this team and the players, and

931
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 4: that's what they were welcomed with.

932
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: Right.

933
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: Well, So I don't think the Bengals broke any rules. Nope,

934
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: I don't think the Bengals are gonna get fined. Don't

935
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: necessarily think the Bengals should be fine. But as a

936
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: human being, as one who appreciates somebody who goes above

937
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: and beyond, somebody who has trying to go above and beyond,

938
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: like I just I think yesterday was an example of

939
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: taking your customers for granted. There could have been a

940
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: plan in place to remove some of the snow. There

941
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: could have been a plan in place to ensure that

942
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: the people who came felt as welcome and were made

943
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: as comfortable as possible.

944
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 4: And it wasn't like the snow stopped at eleven am.

945
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,959
Speaker 4: It was done by seven or eight o'clock. The snow

946
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 4: was done, so you had all night all morning leading

947
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 4: up to the game to get that in a better shape.

948
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 3: Well.

949
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: As a result of this, former Bengal Zach Moss saw

950
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: this story and chimed in on social media, where he

951
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 2: referred to it as the worst franchise in sports.

952
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 4: Okay, well, thank you, Zach. Time here in Cincinnati was

953
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 4: one of the worst.

954
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: I'm not entirely convinced Zach isn't grinding an axe. Sure,

955
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: and I think that criticism is a little extreme. And

956
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: I will tell you as a season ticket holder, and

957
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: I did not go to the game yesterday because my

958
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: daughter had a basketball game, but I certainly have seen

959
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: plenty of instances where I felt like a member of

960
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: stadium personnel has.

961
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 3: Gone above and beyond for somebody.

962
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll certainly point out publicly when it happens.

963
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: But I thought, as a general rule, yesterday the Bengals

964
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 2: had a chance to go above and beyond.

965
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: They chose not to.

966
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 2: And again, you may not fault them for that, but

967
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: when you choose to not go above and beyond, you

968
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: get whatever you have coming.

969
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 4: Correct and again you paired that with the product on

970
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 4: the field. That's tough. Yeah, it's a tough day.

971
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: I've got pole questions I want you to weigh in on.

972
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: And then we have to talk about what Draymond Jones

973
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: said about the Bengals on field performance yesterday. And I

974
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: do have two bright spots oh in an otherwise dismal

975
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: and dark day for the Bengals. We have to talk

976
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977
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Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes after four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen

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1002
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Speaker 2: Are you ready to answer yes? Question number one? Yesterday,

1003
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: both the Bengals and Chiefs were officially eliminated from the

1004
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: playoffs Kansas City with a loss of the Chargers. A

1005
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: Chargers defense that was terrific yesterday against a Chiefs team

1006
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: where nobody can ever get open, and unfortunately Patrick Mahomes

1007
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: suffered a season ending ACL tear, but The Chiefs dynasty

1008
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: ends they don't make the postseason. The Bengals dynasty also ended.

1009
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: They missed the playoffs eliminated yesterday. Which team will play

1010
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: in a playoff game next, Kansas City or Cincinnati?

1011
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 3: Kansas City sixty six percent of folks agree.

1012
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 4: With you where they now? One in seven and one

1013
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 4: score games this year. Yep, Water will find the level

1014
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 4: and it has in Kansas City this year. Yeah, I'm

1015
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 4: sure they will retool, regroup, and uh and be right

1016
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 4: back where they need to be. Although how long has

1017
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 4: any Reid in it now?

1018
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 3: So Andy Reid is sixty eight. I believe there's.

1019
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 4: Been rumblings in the last couple of years of how

1020
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 4: much longer he's got I don't I don't know for sure.

1021
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 4: I don't think Travis will go again. Maybe with how

1022
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 4: this ended, they want to go one more time, but

1023
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 4: it could be interesting.

1024
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor says, Joe Burrow is going to play the

1025
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: last three games.

1026
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 3: What should they do with him? Play them or sit them?

1027
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 4: Sit them?

1028
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 3: Fifty two point six percent agree.

1029
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 4: By the way, Jayden Daniels just got sat down for

1030
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 4: the Commanders. Now he's healthy, but has gone through some injuries.

1031
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 4: They're not playing for anything. They've sat him down too risky.

1032
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 4: So I watched Parsons, I watched Mahomes tear the RACL yesterday.

1033
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, in games that counted Parsons for a playoff team

1034
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: and Patrick Mahomes at least in a game where they

1035
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 2: were trying to keep their playoff hopes alive. I'm just

1036
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: I'm watching. I'm watching the highlights of the Chiefs game yesterday.

1037
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 3: Right now.

1038
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: I don't believe in Jinx's so I'm comfortable saying this.

1039
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: Bengals play the Dolphins on Sunday in a game that

1040
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: doesn't matter at all for Cincinnati. Can you imagine what

1041
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: it would look like watching Joe Burrow come off the

1042
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: field the way Patrick Mahomes did yesterday?

1043
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 4: And not only that, Like we talked at the top

1044
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 4: of the show, the mental state of Joe Burrow. If

1045
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 4: you're not one hundred percent locked in mentally, what happens

1046
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 4: miss checks, misprotections? Did that happen with Burrow yesterday? Took

1047
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 4: some hits because of it. Are you willing to risk

1048
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 4: that if he's not one hundred percent mentally there? We

1049
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 4: don't know what's going on right now with Joe Burrow.

1050
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 4: He doesn't look one hundred percent. Are you willing to

1051
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 4: risk that to run him out there in a game

1052
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 4: that means nothing?

1053
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 3: I am not.

1054
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's too much.

1055
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: Third and final, Paul question, what is your level of

1056
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: confidence that the Bengals will win a Super Bowl by

1057
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: the end of the twenty twenty nine season. Oh four choices, Okay,

1058
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 2: plan the parade now, marginally confident, I have doubts or

1059
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: l O l O l O l O l O

1060
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: l O l no.

1061
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 4: I'll say I have doubts. And the only reason I

1062
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 4: don't say l O l O l O l O

1063
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 4: l O l O l O l O is because

1064
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 4: they still have Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. Yeah, that's

1065
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 4: the only reason. But I have doubts about everything else.

1066
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 3: I have doubts. I have doubts.

1067
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 4: Who's the leader in the clubhouse on that one?

1068
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 3: L O l O l O l O l O

1069
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 3: l O no.

1070
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: Thirty forty eight point three percent say no, thirty six

1071
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: percent say I have doubts, eleven point seven percent marginally confident.

1072
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 3: Four percent say play the parade now.

1073
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow yesterday was a hit ten times. In Sack three,

1074
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 4: I'm good like uh.

1075
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: Like that game counted. Joe didn't play like it did,

1076
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: but that game counted.

1077
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 4: And hit after the play a couple other times. I'm good.

1078
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 4: I don't need to see that again. I don't need

1079
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 4: to see anymore.

1080
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: How about the comments from Baltimore defensive tackle Draymond Jones,

1081
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: who set after the victory, quote, we didn't really discuss

1082
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: the fact that they had zero points. I think we

1083
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: wanted to attack. We knew we had them on their

1084
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: heels just by how they were calling it, how they looked,

1085
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: their demeanor. They didn't feel lively to me, and I

1086
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: feel like we wanted to attack.

1087
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 3: And then he said.

1088
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 2: This quote, I felt like they weren't ready to play.

1089
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: It was too cold for them.

1090
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 4: I mean, unfortunately, it's hard to argue with any of

1091
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 4: those comments because of how the game unfolded.

1092
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 3: I think he's exactly right.

1093
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 4: It's pretty accurate.

1094
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not like dude on winning team talking trash.

1095
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 2: That is a reasonable and I think the objective assessment

1096
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: of what the Bengals were yesterday.

1097
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 4: I don't have problems with players talking trash because the

1098
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 4: beautiful thing about sports is you get four quarters before

1099
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 4: that to allow them to not talk trash. They want

1100
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 4: to talk after they beat you, and they beat you

1101
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 4: in the manna that they did yesterday. Go ahead, they

1102
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 4: earned it.

1103
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 2: Want some bright spots please. Miles Murphy playing well. Two sacks,

1104
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: three quarterback hits.

1105
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 4: Miles Murphy's playing well.

1106
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: I'll stop short of saying, God, you know what, he's

1107
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 2: turning into a good pick.

1108
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 4: But the tide well down the stretch last year.

1109
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 3: But he is.

1110
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has turned the corner this year that I

1111
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: think you are starting to look at him as a

1112
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: guy that you go, Okay, they're gonna build around him

1113
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: so to speak. Maybe not, but you won him a

1114
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: part of the equation next year. Yes, Dimitrius Knight played

1115
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: a nice game.

1116
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was his best game. Yeah as

1117
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 4: a Bengal It he popped more on the screen yesterday.

1118
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 4: Yeah for positive things, Yeah, than I've seen in a

1119
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 4: game this year.

1120
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: He looked like a quality NFL linebacker yesterday. Time will tell.

1121
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 2: I guess if that's one off. But he's a guy

1122
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: that we've been up and he has deserved it. But

1123
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: I thought yesterday he was really good. The offensive line

1124
00:54:59,120 --> 00:54:59,959
Speaker 2: over the last month.

1125
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 3: Jordan was okay. Jordan Badle played well. He did.

1126
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you and I were laughing at well

1127
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 2: that we held him to three points in the second half.

1128
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 2: That game was as low scoring as it was because

1129
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: the Bengals ran up the clock the second half.

1130
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 4: That Baltimore had. The only possession of the fourth quarter

1131
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 4: was kneel downs with two minutes left in the clock.

1132
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: Cincinnati ran seventy one plays, Baltimore forty. Bengals had the

1133
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 2: ball for forty minutes.

1134
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 4: They played like a team with the lead. Yes, and

1135
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 4: it's not the first time we've talked about that this year. Yes,

1136
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 4: the lack of urgency.

1137
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 3: Don't get mad at me. They played like you guys

1138
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 3: in the Sugar Bowl, right, but then all seriousness, it

1139
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 3: was thirty eight to three, yep, and you guys were

1140
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: like the rock, let's.

1141
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 4: Let's because we were told to a halftime, right.

1142
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 2: Let's get out of here and not subject to ourselves

1143
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 2: to a larger beat down.

1144
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 3: And you made the game respectable.

1145
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, but like in the second and half, that's

1146
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: what you guys did, And that's what the Bengals did yesterday.

1147
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 2: They ran out the clock down by seventeen.

1148
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 4: That were doing thirty five. They were down three scores

1149
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 4: and last week. They just scored quickly down the stretch

1150
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 4: against Buffalo to get back in the game.

1151
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 2: It looked like a team that was winning by forty

1152
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: or a team that was playing a preseason game like that.

1153
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 4: Lot of stuff that.

1154
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 3: Look you, if you didn't.

1155
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 2: Know what the score was, and you didn't know the

1156
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 2: circumstances around the game, and you were just watching the

1157
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: Bengals operate their offense in the second half, you would

1158
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: think they were winning decisively, or you would think the

1159
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 2: game didn't count, correct.

1160
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 4: Didn't matter. I thought. I thought as much credit as

1161
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 4: we've given them as of late, I thought it was

1162
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 4: the offensive line worst game collectively and quite some time.

1163
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 4: They were ill prepared somehow for pressures. And I don't

1164
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 4: get this. This in the first time we've said this

1165
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 4: this year either what's the planet running back?

1166
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 3: It's weird, man, It saysn't the first.

1167
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 4: Time that they're They're splitting reps at running back now, right,

1168
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 4: And I don't understand it. It's weird of all this

1169
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 4: high praise. And I think p is a great professional.

1170
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, Claudy's on the team.

1171
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 4: Should he be getting more carries in a meaningful game

1172
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 4: than Chase Brown?

1173
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 2: No?

1174
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 4: I agree no like.

1175
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 3: Some ajp Ryan, but no, absolutely not.

1176
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 4: That was one of the more demoralizing plays in the

1177
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 4: fourth quarter. Fourth in inches. Defense just doesn't want to

1178
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,479
Speaker 4: get beat deep. Yeah, you can't get a fourth in inches? Yeah,

1179
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 4: with him all over not necessarily giving it to you,

1180
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, they're not. They're not crowding the line with eleven.

1181
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 3: More than conten for you to get your first down.

1182
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 4: Keep the clock going, take more clock.

1183
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: Jamorrison of Bengals Talk dot Com reports the Bengals.

1184
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 3: Have made history.

1185
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: The time of possession of thirty nine minutes in nineteen

1186
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: seconds was the most of any team that got shut

1187
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: out in at.

1188
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 3: Least forty two years now.

1189
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: Time of possession data is available on Pro Football Reference

1190
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: only going back to nineteen eighty three, but the previous

1191
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 2: record for most time of possession in a shutout was

1192
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: thirty six minutes and fifty six seconds by the Raiders,

1193
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 2: who lost fifty two zip to the Rams in twenty fourteen.

1194
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 4: That could be banner worthy. That could be a banner.

1195
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 4: I like this. That wasn't the most demoralizing tweet I

1196
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 4: saw today?

1197
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 3: What was that?

1198
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 4: Did you see Dan Orlofsky's tweet? No, listen to this

1199
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 4: with Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. Joe Burrow targeting Jamar

1200
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 4: Chase this year twenty eight for forty eight fifty eight percent,

1201
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 4: one touchdown, three interceptions, fifty two point three QBR. Tell

1202
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 4: me something is not off. I said it before. I'll

1203
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 4: say it again. The pick six which sealed the game,

1204
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 4: go back and rewatch that and I'll post a video

1205
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 4: of it tomorrow. One on one with Jamar Chase at

1206
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 4: the bottom of the screen wasn't like Baltimore hit it.

1207
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 4: Joe knew what was coming. He waited for Tanner Hudson

1208
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 4: instead of just throwing a back shoulder ball to Jamar Chase,

1209
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 4: which he does again ninety nine percent of the time.

1210
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 4: Like that's why I say mentally, something had to be

1211
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 4: off because the Burrow I've watched since he got here.

1212
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 4: Anytime they go one on one with Jamar Chase, he says,

1213
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 4: you're not doing that. I'll take that all day. Didn't

1214
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 4: even look at it well again, like missed him on

1215
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 4: a deep ball where he didn't look to him when

1216
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase clearly beat the guy.

1217
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 2: The play where they throw it downfield, Gaziki is going

1218
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: down the middle of the field, two guys are chasing

1219
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 2: him and Jamar is running a short route.

1220
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 3: It's fourth and four. Yeah, I think man to man,

1221
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 3: I don't know how you just don't look at Jamar

1222
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 3: Chase and go you're my only reading.

1223
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,959
Speaker 4: That's the thing they did that. They did their work

1224
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 4: pre snap, they sent motion. He knew it was man

1225
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 4: fourth and four. Your man beater is Jamar Chase, not

1226
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 4: Mike Asiki down the middle of the field. It just

1227
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 4: it was off. Everything about the normal reads that Joe

1228
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 4: Burrow makes was off yesterday.

1229
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 3: The normal reads and the normal effort.

1230
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: We started the show by me talking about the play

1231
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 2: in the third quarter where it's third and eight, they're

1232
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: down seventeen. Time is of the essence. Possession is of

1233
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 2: the essens. They're at the thirty nine yard line. Joe

1234
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 2: Burrow scrambles to his right. Nothing's there and he just

1235
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 2: saunters out a bounds and there's a part of me going, Okay,

1236
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 2: well they're at least gonna go forward on fourth down. No,

1237
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: he just kept like walking to the bench, yep, and

1238
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 2: like this is the same player who when he got hurt,

1239
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: Folks were like, well, it's because he plays hero ball.

1240
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 2: He's extending plays too much, he's trying to do too much.

1241
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 2: He's gonna be more responsible, And look, man, I think

1242
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: there's some shreds of validity to that. But if there

1243
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 2: is a moment where I'm like, you know, my guy,

1244
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: go make a play. It's seventeen to nothing in a

1245
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: must win game in the third quarter, and instead he

1246
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 2: just jogs out of bounds. And so the mantra from

1247
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one late in the season was Efic Jamar

1248
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: is down there, right? What happened to ef If you

1249
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: throw a ball twenty yards down the field?

1250
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 3: Who cares at seventeen nothing giving up possession At that

1251
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 3: point the yardage doesn't matter, right, He just like walks

1252
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 3: out of bounds.

1253
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 4: Never seen that before from him? Never you remember remember

1254
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 4: years ago when Andy Dalton threw it out of bounds

1255
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 4: on fourth down against Pittsburgh. Yeah, crush for it. Yeah

1256
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 4: like that, That to me was I'm good waved the

1257
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 4: white flag and I've never seen that, nor did I

1258
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 4: ever think we'd see that from Joe Burrow.

1259
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 2: I mean I joked to my house watching the game,

1260
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 2: like I think Joe Burrow's got the ravens and the points.

1261
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: I'm not accusing him of throwing the game. But like jokingly,

1262
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's yeah, that's that's one.

1263
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 3: Of them plays. Joe joke, Joe laid the two and

1264
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 3: a half. That was the opposite.

1265
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 2: And so again, like the snapshot of the game yesterday,

1266
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 2: that stands out more than anything is that the normal

1267
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow does something. He might not get the first

1268
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 2: down anything, he might run and be short. He might

1269
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 2: throw it, throw a pick, he might throw it, throw

1270
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 2: it short of he does.

1271
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 3: Something, he'd do anything. Yep, just saw it to ride

1272
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 3: a bound let Ryan Rico punt we're doing.

1273
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 4: It was the white flag moment.

1274
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 3: It was the white flag.

1275
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 4: And again, at all everything we just described reiterates the

1276
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 4: fact that I wouldn't try him out there on Sunday,

1277
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 4: not physically, because mentally, if he's compromised at all, he

1278
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 4: can set himself up for something bad on the field.

1279
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 2: Miami is mathematically still live now they play tonight, if

1280
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 2: the Dolphins win, they're still live.

1281
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 3: Nope.

1282
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 2: Does that have any bearing on your because I could,

1283
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: I could understand the perspective. Hey, look, this game might

1284
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 2: not matter to us, but it does matter Bengals Arizona.

1285
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter for anybody. Sure Bengals Cleveland, Sure as

1286
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 2: hell doesn't matter to anybody.

1287
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 4: Which is why I was surprised Zac came today and

1288
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 4: said all three. He didn't just say like, he's our

1289
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 4: quarterback this week?

1290
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 3: What about T Higgins?

1291
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 4: Nope, with concussions, no chance see you next year.

1292
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 3: Concussion protocol twice in three weeks.

1293
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 4: Concussion scare me.

1294
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 3: I love you.

1295
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. By the way an oft, the way he plays

1296
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 4: and an oft injured player, I'm good.

1297
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 3: I just if I were.

1298
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 4: If I were, I'll go a come up with something

1299
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 4: for Gino Stone. Ah, you're good, We're good with your services.

1300
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 4: Guy took the worst angle on a ball before the

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Speaker 4: half I've ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 3: That's part for the course.

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Speaker 2: The Joe to me like the story of the season.

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Speaker 2: The rest of the way is how I will watch

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Speaker 2: these last three games.

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Speaker 3: Through my fingers.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Uncomfortable because they're playing with fire now. Uncomfortable. I no

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Speaker 2: issue with Joe playing against the Ravens Thanksgiving night. No

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Speaker 2: issue with him playing against like you were trying, you

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Speaker 2: were in it, yeah, mathemat fine. Now they are playing

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01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 2: with fire. Yeah, and I like the whole Well, he's

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Speaker 2: got the fire to play yesterday.

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Speaker 3: He didn't.

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Speaker 4: That's the most worries worrisome about yesterday. We talked about

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01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 4: the players rolling over, quitting on Zach Taylor. That was

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Speaker 4: a game that still had meaning. Yeah, what happens now

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Speaker 4: right when these games don't mean anything? Right, business decisions

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01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 4: are normally what happens in those games.

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Speaker 2: It is twenty three away from five o'clock. Brendan Sorosby

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Speaker 2: has made a business decision. We'll talk about that coming

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Speaker 2: up in the five o'clock hour, and a brief college

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Speaker 2: basketball detour.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we're gonna spend a few minutes chatting with.

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Speaker 2: Richard Patino, who went sledding yesterday getting set for Xavier's

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Speaker 2: Biggies opener against Creighton on Wednesday. You know he's winners

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Speaker 2: go first on this show, and it is a football show.

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Speaker 2: They go first, and hour three Xavier's team is winning

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Speaker 2: right now, they're playing well. Richard Patino's going to join

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Speaker 2: us coming up at five oh five. Sports headlines are

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Speaker 2: next on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 9: You've been listening to Football in the NATI on ESPN

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Speaker 9: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. Cincinnati's

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Speaker 8: Reagan Highway. I'm at ezelik with traffic.

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Speaker 4: This report is becan.

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Speaker 1: This week, the Bengals and Dolphins meet up in Miami

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Speaker 1: for a South Beach showdown. Speaking of the beach, my

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Speaker 1: swimsuit of choice is a speedo European style. I don't

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Speaker 1: like those pesky deadlines. The Bengals stool, the Dolphins get

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Speaker 1: the call live from Dan Lloyd and Dave Lapim. The

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Speaker 2: today says Joe Burrow planets for him to play all

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Speaker 2: three remaining games, starting on Sunday, when the Bengals take

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Speaker 2: on the Dolphins in Miami. You'll hear that game at

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Speaker 2: one o'clock. I've on ESPN fifteen thirty. No real update

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Speaker 2: on t Higgins and there are five different players leave

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Speaker 2: the game yesterday with various injuries. No concrete update on

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Speaker 2: any of them. Monday Night Football tonight Miami at Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: That game is on ESPN fifteen thirty. College Football News

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Speaker 2: U sees Brendan sorosby putting his name in the transfer

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Speaker 2: portal after spending the last two years as UC's starting QB.

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Speaker 2: Will not be behind center. The Bearcats take on Navy

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Speaker 2: and the Liberty Ball on January tewod Tony and I

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Speaker 2: will talk about Brandon's departure coming up in the five

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Speaker 2: o'clock hour. Evan Tengasdall third Team AP All American, one

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Speaker 2: of the anchors of UC's offensive line this year College Hoops.

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Speaker 2: The Mark Pope Radio Show at six o'clock on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. I am probably in the minority that I

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Speaker 2: enjoyed the Charles Barkley Dick Vitele call of Kentucky versus Indiana.

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01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 4: I thought I was good.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I would want to hear that

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01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 3: every week.

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01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 4: And Kentucky played well in the second half.

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01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 2: Kentucky played really well in the second half, and I

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01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 2: thought Charles and Dick together were terrific. The Richard Patino

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Speaker 2: Radio Show is tonight at seven o'clock on fifty five

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Speaker 2: k r C.

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Speaker 3: What do you say to.

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01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: People who tell Joe Burrow that he should just shut up.

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01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 3: Because you know that's out there.

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01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about this too, of the ramifications when

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01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 4: you sign and get the money that he did. You

1389
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 4: remember how the turn slowly happened on Joey Vada when

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01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 4: he got paid, and it was, well, you walk too much,

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01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 4: you're not doing enough. The perception changes when you get

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01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 4: paid a lot of money. I would say to them

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01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 4: that Joe Burrow literally has the franchise weight on his back,

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01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 4: and it's not easy to have to be perfect every

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01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 4: time you take the field. Joe Burrow has already sacrific

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01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 4: a ton to get back to this point, and there's

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01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 4: only so much he can do. I again, I have

1398
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 4: been very open at the fact that I don't think

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01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor should have been the offensive coordinator. I think

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01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow has to overcome that. At times, he's had

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01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 4: to overcome subpar offensive lines. Now they have helped him.

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01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 4: They've done what he wanted. They signed Jamar they signed

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01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 4: Tea Chase Brown as a weapon. They went out and

1404
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 4: got Mica SICKI. They have not helped him in development.

1405
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 4: They've not helped him on the defensive side of the ball.

1406
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 4: They've asked Joe Burrow to be perfect. And as a

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01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 4: competitor who wants to win Super Bowls, I don't think

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01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 4: he should be quiet. I think he should speak up

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01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 4: onto what this team needs to be successful.

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01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 2: To me bring up the money if there's something he's

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01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: not doing. He's been here for almost six years. Yeah,

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01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 2: has there been something that he's needed to do that

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01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 2: he hasn't And I'm not talking about like he's played

1414
01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 2: every game great. Obviously, I wish you would have played

1415
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 2: better on a number of occasions, including yesterday.

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01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 3: I wish he would have won a Super Bowl. I

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01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 3: wish he would have won multiple super Bowls.

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01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 2: But everything they've asked him to do in terms of

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01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 2: representing the franchise being the foundation around which everything is

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01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 2: gonna be built, He's worked his tail off to come

1421
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:21,440
Speaker 2: back from injury. He's played hurt, He's played when physically compromised,

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01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 2: and some of us thought he shouldn't. He's shown a

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Speaker 2: willingness to lead. By all accounts, He's a maniacal worker.

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01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 2: Winning matters to him. Being a good teammate seems to

1425
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 2: matter to him. There are maybe things behind the scenes

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01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,520
Speaker 2: that we don't see, but it feels like his teammates

1427
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 2: adore him. It feels like he does everything his coaches ask,

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01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 2: what has he not done? Like bring up the money

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01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 2: to me?

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01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 3: If you're like, you know what, this guy doesn't come

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01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 3: to voluntary workouts.

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01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 2: He missed the one to go to the met Gala,

1433
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 2: which four or five people lost their mind over.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: I look at Joe Burrow and I see like he

1436
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,759
Speaker 2: is exactly what you want your face of your franchise

1437
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: to be. He is exactly the type of player in

1438
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 2: person you want to build around. He has done everything

1439
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 2: that has been asked. He has been tasked with almost

1440
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:11,879
Speaker 2: by himself, helping a franchise rebrand. They have put everything

1441
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 2: on him. He has never complained, he has never thrown

1442
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 2: people under the bus. He's always taken responsibility for his

1443
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 2: poor play, as he did yesterday. He's taking responsibility for

1444
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 2: losing when he's played out of his mind. So if

1445
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 2: you bring up the money, then tell me what during

1446
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 2: the course of him earning that money you believe he

1447
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 2: has not done that he should.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's an answer to that.

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Speaker 4: I'll simply put it. If you are one of the

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Speaker 4: fans that think that this is a Joe Burrow problem

1451
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 4: with this team right now, then I think you're part

1452
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 4: of the problem. Like if your takeaway is this is

1453
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow problem, that this team is where they are,

1454
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 4: then that's a part of the problem because he is

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01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 4: far from Does he have to play better than yesterday? Yeah,

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01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 4: and he'd be the first to tell you that it

1457
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 4: was it was yeah, But this this narrative, and again

1458
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 4: it comes with the tear. You get paid a lot

1459
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 4: of money, the perception changes, you know, you you become

1460
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 4: the villain. At the villain at some point. But from

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01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 4: what I've seen and what I watched, they're asking a

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01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 4: ton of this guy. They're putting a ton on his shoulder,

1463
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 4: and it's a guy that, at the very core of

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01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 4: it just wants to win.

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01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 2: Do you think he should have been handed a snowblower

1466
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 2: and a towel and asked to clean off seats, yester?

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Speaker 4: I think that would have went pretty far if he

1468
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 4: was up there doing that with.

1469
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Speaker 3: The kind of money he's making.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it would have been within the Bengals

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01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 2: rights to say to him, Joe, why don't you hike

1472
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 2: up to the three hundred level yep and clear off

1473
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 2: the seeds and the rehapping.

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01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 4: More, go go up there, get some steps in.

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01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 2: You know, why don't why don't you just in an

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01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 2: effort to make our fans feel more welcome. We know

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01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 2: you have a lot on your plate, but why don't

1478
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 2: you go up there and and just chip off some

1479
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 2: snow and some ice for those folks in the upper

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Speaker 2: reaches of the stadium. Maybe that's the one thing he could.

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01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 4: Have Maybe that'll been the mental break he needed, could

1482
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 4: have been some alone time up there in the Canna

1483
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:56,600
Speaker 4: put it.

1484
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 3: Put in your buds and uh and.

1485
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 4: Chip away, chip away kind of what we're doing here,

1486
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 4: just chip it away.

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01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 3: Maybe that should be like Marvin Lewis used have those

1488
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 3: T shirts like do your job and run on your

1489
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 3: own gas, whatever the hell that meant.

1490
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 4: Chip away.

1491
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 2: Maybe chip away can be the new motto. But for like,

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01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 2: you know, chip it away the ice and snow or

1493
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 2: whatever frozen buttons that are on the escalator that didn't

1494
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 2: work again yesterday, or the team itself.

1495
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 3: Chip away.

1496
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could go in many ways, or it.

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01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 3: Could be like start blowing, blow the snow off.

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01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah seats, Yeah, you think they should go start blowing

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01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 4: as the next shirt.

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Speaker 2: I think they should. It's ten away from about five o'clock.

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Speaker 2: We're a twin peaks in Florence. It's the Tony and

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Speaker 2: Mo Football Show College Basketball Detour coming.

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Speaker 4: Up in busy, busy for that. Richard Patino and I

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Speaker 4: are gonna Yeah, I'm looking forward to listen to that.

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Speaker 2: When we come back. Esp at fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 8: I'm at ezelik with traffic.

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Speaker 6: This report is sponsored by STICK.

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Speaker 9: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

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Speaker 3: Five away from five. This is ESPN fifteen thirty one

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01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 3: are at Twin Peaks in Florence. It's the Tony and

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01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 3: Mo Football Show. We are here till six. We're back

1522
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 3: in Florence next week for the Christmas Show. Oh yes,

1523
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 3: have you come up with something special for Christmas? I

1524
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 3: was told just knowledge you wanted to dress like an elf,

1525
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 3: like Bora John John's Nope, Elf.

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01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 4: Out, Nope, nope, nope. I'm good. I've done my ELF

1527
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 4: duties for the year. I'm good.

1528
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 3: Your family participate in ELF on a shelf? We do?

1529
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 3: You got three?

1530
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 4: It is ah, it's been a try in December, and

1531
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 4: I am one that like really wants to soak in

1532
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 4: the holiday season because I think it goes too fast.

1533
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:26,839
Speaker 4: And I enjoy the holidays, but man, there are mornings

1534
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 4: where I'm trying to piece it together and between a

1535
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 4: one year old and four year old a five year old,

1536
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 4: and you hear those feet coming down the stairs and

1537
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 4: you know you forgot to do something and you are hustling.

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01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: I try to put this in the most gentle way

1539
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 2: possible because I don't want to. I don't want to

1540
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 2: make for uncomfortable conversations for everybody who might be listening

1541
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 2: with their children. But there have been more than a

1542
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: handful of nights where either my wife or I have

1543
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,759
Speaker 2: woken up or right before we're going.

1544
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 4: To sleep, and we go, yeah, yeah, what's your else's name?

1545
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 3: Elfie?

1546
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 4: Really, that's ours?

1547
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 3: Amazing how that works?

1548
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 4: Elfie?

1549
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 3: Elfie?

1550
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 4: Yep, yep. I was told that Elfie better bring it

1551
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 4: these final days before Christmas. Elfie wasn't told that by

1552
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 4: the kids.

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01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 2: Elfie brought it this morning in a scavenger hunt that

1554
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 2: was more elaborate than an NFL team's game plan. Wow,

1555
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 2: it was a good fifteen minutes. Nice for the scavenger

1556
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:30,799
Speaker 2: hunt to unfold.

1557
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 4: We've had elaborate mornings.

1558
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 3: Elfie went out of his way. We had a laborate

1559
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 3: healthy went above and beyond in ways the Bengals did not.

1560
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 4: We've had elaborate mornings. We've had mornings where man Elfie

1561
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 4: likes the tree. And then there was one morning where

1562
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 4: Elfie didn't move and I said, well the weather, uh

1563
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 4: huh was the bad weather? Right, couldn't get back to

1564
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 4: the north for frozen frozen here, so it is uh yeah,

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01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 4: time honor traditions.

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01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,480
Speaker 2: I met a couple of friends of mine for beverages

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01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 2: on Friday night. My wife was home, and as she

1568
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 2: went to bed, she sent me a text, hope you're

1569
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: having fun. Oh you're on Elfie duty. Yeah, it's not

1570
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 2: what I wanted to hear. Nope, all right, we're at

1571
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 2: Twin Peaks for another hours.

1572
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 4: But if you tell my wife and I conversation right now,

1573
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 4: we just send videos back and forth. How about this idea? Yeah,

1574
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 4: what about.

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01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 2: There's a lot of that going on and you got

1576
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 2: three Yeah, Alfie's got a lot on his plate.

1577
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 4: O Bush, all right.

1578
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 2: Richard Patino Next Tonya Moe Football Show, ESPN fifteen thirty.

1579
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 9: Holiday traditions lit on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 3: Sure have it's five oh five. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.

1581
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 3: Elbow Egger.

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01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening. Hopefully you're having an

1583
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 2: awesome Monday. Let's let's talk some college shops. The Xavier

1584
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 2: Musketeers are getting set to open up Big EIA's Play

1585
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 2: on Wednesday with a home tilt against Creton. That game

1586
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 2: is going to start at six thirty. XU coming off

1587
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: a fifth consecutive win on Friday night, beating Missouri State

1588
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 2: seventy five to fifty seven. Muski's going the league play

1589
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 2: with an eight and three record and five straight wins.

1590
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 2: As I just mentioned, it is awesome to get a

1591
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 2: chance on the eve of the eve of Big East

1592
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Speaker 2: Play starting. The head coach of the Musketeers, Richard Patino,

1593
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 2: is with us. Coach, it is always awesome to have you.

1594
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 2: Good afternoon, How are you.

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01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 10: Doing great?

1596
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 11: Thanks for having me.

1597
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 3: I appreciate you joining us.

1598
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 2: You appeared on our show a few days before the

1599
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 2: season opener, and we're trying to figure out who's gonna

1600
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,560
Speaker 2: do what, what you're gonna put on the floor in

1601
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 2: the first game, we knew the first month and a

1602
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 2: half of the season was going to be a learning process.

1603
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: There have been some ups and downs and a lot

1604
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 2: more ups recently. What are the handful of biggest things

1605
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,719
Speaker 2: you've learned about this team through eleven games.

1606
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 11: Well, I think they're willing to adapt, and you know,

1607
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 11: we've made some changes, whether it was to our lineup,

1608
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 11: whether it was to our offense. And they've really really,

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01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 11: you know, taken to coaching. You know, we're number one

1610
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 11: in the country on Ken Palm of turnover percentage, so

1611
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 11: certainly value in the basketball very well, sharing it, you know,

1612
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 11: at a high rate, at nineteen assists per game, you know.

1613
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 11: So it's a great group. They played very unselfish basketball,

1614
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 11: and they're getting better and better every game. You know,

1615
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 11: so very very grateful to just be dealing with these

1616
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 11: guys on a daily basis because they're really fun to coach.

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01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 2: You're you're not You're never I guess where you want

1618
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 2: to be. You certainly aren't going to be in the

1619
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 2: middle of December. But I want to go back to

1620
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 2: when you played Georgia in Charleston, because in the second

1621
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 2: half of that game, it just felt like and I'm

1622
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 2: watching it from Afar. It just felt like the switch

1623
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 2: was being flipped. And that's cliche, and it's cliche to

1624
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 2: say that the light bulb was coming on. But I

1625
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 2: and again you may have a different perspective, but I

1626
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 2: felt like that night you could start to see it.

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01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 2: You can start to see it coalesce a little bit.

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01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,560
Speaker 2: And you haven't lost since. Is that did you feel this?

1629
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 2: You didn't win the game, but that night, in the

1630
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 2: second half, as it was unfolding, did you feel something

1631
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 2: so more?

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01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it subtly happened. Honestly at Iowa, we

1633
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 11: made the switch to put Jovah at the five. We

1634
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 11: brought all right into starting point, and you know, although

1635
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,600
Speaker 11: we didn't win the game, like we just felt like

1636
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 11: there was a fluidity and a rhythm to that lineup

1637
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 11: that we really really liked. We came back and played

1638
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 11: great versus Dominion and then going into Georgia, like you said,

1639
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 11: you know, I mean, Georgia is very very athletic, they're

1640
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 11: very talented. We came back, really had the game. One

1641
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,679
Speaker 11: kid did a tough, tough shot in front of their bench.

1642
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 11: But the response from that loss, you know, to bounce

1643
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 11: back the next day, have a great practice. We actually

1644
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 11: had a shoot around early morning versus West Virginia that

1645
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 11: was as good as one of the shooting rounds that

1646
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 11: I've ever had in fourteen years of being a head coach,

1647
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 11: and I just felt like, these guys are starting to

1648
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 11: believe in kind of this new way of playing. And

1649
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 11: we then go out versus West Virginia. We hit fifteen threes,

1650
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 11: put up seventy eight point. It's a really really good

1651
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 11: defensive team. So yeah, I think the Charleston Classic it

1652
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 11: gave us hope, you know, I mean, we we It's

1653
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 11: still a long season, but you know, to add so

1654
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 11: many guys where you know, you don't retain anybody who

1655
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 11: scored a basket from last year. We knew it would

1656
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:21,719
Speaker 11: take some time, but the guys have caught up, certainly

1657
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 11: at a fast rate.

1658
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 2: I've heard coaches on both ends of the Crosstown Shootout

1659
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 2: talk about how hard it can be in the days after,

1660
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 2: and there's it's such an entity onto itself, and there's

1661
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 2: so much that goes into it and so much that

1662
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 2: comes out of it. I've heard coaches talk about, like,

1663
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 2: we don't want to play a game for a week,

1664
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 2: which you guys did and I've heard coaches talk about

1665
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 2: we want to get back to playing another opponent as

1666
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,799
Speaker 2: soon as possible. You've talked a lot about the game itself,

1667
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 2: but give us an idea how you felt your guys

1668
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 2: handled the couple of days after that game, and and

1669
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 2: and the aftermath of what was such an emotional night

1670
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 2: for your team.

1671
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 11: You know, it's really hard as a coach because you

1672
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 11: really do try to treat every game the same. But

1673
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 11: because of their phones, social media, are fans media like.

1674
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 11: It's not that they're their fault, but they certainly build

1675
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 11: this up to a bigger game than any of the

1676
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 11: games that we had played so far, and you know,

1677
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 11: they're getting hit with all the dopamine hits and all

1678
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 11: that stuff, and it's you know, when you lose a

1679
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 11: tough game, every coach says the same thing that their

1680
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 11: players block out the noise, block out the noise. Well,

1681
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 11: it's equally as hard when everybody's feeding you all these

1682
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 11: positive thoughts as well, because you don't want.

1683
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 6: To get complacent.

1684
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 11: I knew that, you know, when we played in Missouri State,

1685
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 11: I wasn't surprised that the energy was not the same

1686
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 11: in the building.

1687
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 6: I mean, that's normal.

1688
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 11: You know, you got students going away for break. It's

1689
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 11: a you know game after the crossout shootout, not as

1690
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 11: big of a name, and I like the fact that

1691
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 11: we had a little time off because of finals. But

1692
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 11: I was also excited to see how we responded, and

1693
01:21:58,640 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 11: we played great in the second half.

1694
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 4: So that game, you know, I don't think.

1695
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 11: There's as a coach, you can do a whole lot

1696
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 11: about it because it is so big to our community

1697
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 11: on both sides. It's so big to the media.

1698
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 6: Here and unfortunately get the win.

1699
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 11: Unfortunate to respond the right way.

1700
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 2: When you're going through you start Biggies play against Creighton

1701
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: on Wednesday. You're obviously always keeping an eye on the league,

1702
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 2: but how much are you watching the teams that play

1703
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 2: in the Big East. How closely are you paying attention

1704
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 2: to schools like Creighton as you're going through those first

1705
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 2: six or seven weeks of the regular season.

1706
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, you certainly want to have a feel

1707
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 11: for it all, especially with the transfer portal. You know,

1708
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 11: you want to try to pay attention to as many

1709
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 11: players as possible because they're all essentially free agents, So

1710
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 11: you know, you want to be educated with all of

1711
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:46,759
Speaker 11: these rosters.

1712
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 6: To the best of your ability.

1713
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 11: But you know, if there's a game on TV or something,

1714
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 11: I may watch it, but you know, you're just you're

1715
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 11: not necessarily paying attention to the level of preparation going

1716
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 11: into a game. But I think the league, certainly, you've

1717
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,560
Speaker 11: got Yukon and Saint John's at the top, you know,

1718
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 11: really really invested in their rosters, terrific programs, and then

1719
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 11: you've got kind of like everybody else trying to buy

1720
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 11: for three four, five six. You know, I watched the

1721
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 11: Providence at Butler game. That was as entertaining as a

1722
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 11: game as you will see. Uh, the difference gree conference play,

1723
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 11: and you know, the non conference is just like there's

1724
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 11: no you know, everybody's fighting for seeding NCAA tournament. There's

1725
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:36,799
Speaker 11: no mid major opponents anymore. You know, stamina, competitive stamina,

1726
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 11: all those things really going and you can't get tired,

1727
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 11: you know, because there's long days and weeks ahead. So

1728
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,560
Speaker 11: Creighton has always been a very very good team and

1729
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 11: a tough out in the the East. Uh, they've dropped

1730
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 11: a couple as of late, but we certainly know it's

1731
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 11: gonna be a great challenge for US.

1732
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 2: I watched Butler Providence, which was a game that was

1733
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 2: so good and so long. It aired on two different networks.

1734
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: And there have been lots of changes in college basketball.

1735
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,719
Speaker 2: One of one of that I'm that I'm like still

1736
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 2: grappling with. It's still weird to see conference games in

1737
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 2: mid December, and I know it's a byproduct of large

1738
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 2: leagues and expanded conference schedules. Is it weird at all

1739
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 2: to you that we're talking about playing games in conference

1740
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: before Christmas?

1741
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1742
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 11: I mean we did that, I believe in the Big

1743
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,799
Speaker 11: Ten because we went to a twenty league game schedule,

1744
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 11: and you know, they don't they want to try to

1745
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 11: give you that bye week. So I don't love it,

1746
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:33,480
Speaker 11: especially like this time of year is about college football,

1747
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 11: it's also about the holidays, and you know, so I

1748
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 11: don't love it, but it's the best way to kind

1749
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 11: of fit everything in. You know, you'd want your students

1750
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 11: on campus, especially in our building.

1751
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 6: Our students are so good, but it kind of is

1752
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 6: what it is.

1753
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 11: So yeah, I mean I've always I wish they'd start

1754
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 11: the season, you know, after January. They'll never do it

1755
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 11: because of March badness, but you know it'll certainly ramp

1756
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 11: up here. But these games are just as important, even

1757
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 11: those two and are gone in the holidays, They matter

1758
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 11: just as much as games.

1759
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 10: Of mid February, I watched.

1760
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 2: On social media video of view this weekend going sledding.

1761
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 2: I also went sledding, and I feel like a bus

1762
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 2: hit me. How you doing physically?

1763
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know you don't as you get older. I'm

1764
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 11: forty three years old, and my nine year old daughter

1765
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:23,719
Speaker 11: was like, she was walking out to go sledding by herself,

1766
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 11: and I'm like, man, I can't let my cute little

1767
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 11: daughter go up sled by herself. So I was way

1768
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 11: too ambitious and I hit a bump and then the

1769
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 11: video that I posted my wife didn't catch the end

1770
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 11: of it, but I hit it free too, So I'm like, man,

1771
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 11: I'm gonna I'm gonna watch you do it, have fun

1772
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 11: with you.

1773
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 4: But it was fun.

1774
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 11: I mean, I've never I lived in Minnesota for eight years,

1775
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 11: but it was so darn cold to go outside and

1776
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 11: to go sledding. So it was cool to spend a

1777
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 11: couple of hours with my daughter outside.

1778
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 3: She loved it.

1779
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did the same, and then I paid for

1780
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 2: it yesterday morning. I can't thank you enough for doing

1781
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 2: this congratulations on the five straight wins. Best of luck

1782
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 2: on Wednesday and during Big East play, and hopefully we'll

1783
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 2: do it again soon. Coach, thanks so much.

1784
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 6: All right, thanks for having me.

1785
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 3: Appreciate it. You got it.

1786
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 2: That's the head coach at Xavier University. By the way,

1787
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 2: More Tonight Richard Patino Show at seven pm on fifty

1788
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Speaker 2: five KRC. We took a college basketball detour last week,

1789
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 2: took a college basketball dtour this week, chatting with the

1790
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 2: head coach of the Xavier Musketeers on the Tony and

1791
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Speaker 2: Mo Football Show on ESPN fifteen thirty. We'll get back

1792
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 2: to the football after this, and we have Zach Taylor's

1793
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 2: press conference.

1794
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Speaker 3: On ESPN fifteen thirty. Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: It is twenty two minutes after five o'clock. This is

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. It's the Tony and Mo Football Show. Tony,

1817
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 2: nice to have you back with me.

1818
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 4: Could be here. I enjoyed listening to that.

1819
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 3: We're at Twin Peaks in Florence.

1820
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 2: You're gonna hear the contractually obligated airing of Zach Taylor's

1821
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 2: weekly press conference coming up at five forty. I know

1822
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 2: you were excited about that Bengals lose to the Baltimore Ravens.

1823
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 2: Got shut out, No showed, Joe Burrow was checked out,

1824
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 2: look checked out at least twenty four ZIP the final

1825
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 2: score yesterday, Joe was going to play the last three games.

1826
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 3: You hear Zach talk about that and so much more.

1827
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 12: That was.

1828
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 2: I thought the Bengals were gonna cover the spread. I

1829
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 2: gave the Bengals more than a puncher's chance over the game.

1830
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 2: We did the show yesterday with Can Brew and I said,

1831
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 2: you know what, I'll take two and a half with

1832
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 2: a desperate Bengals team and Joe Burrow against a team

1833
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:52,719
Speaker 2: they had beaten seventeen days prior. The Baltimore Ravens yesterday

1834
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 2: were an accessory. They almost weren't even on the field.

1835
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 2: I barely paid attention because what I was watching was

1836
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 2: a quarterback and a team that looked totally checked out.

1837
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 4: Yep, they look checked out. From the first drive of

1838
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 4: the game, when Burrow got sacked and it pushed him

1839
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 4: out of a field goal range. It looked like they

1840
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 4: never really regained their footing. I know they got inside

1841
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 4: the thirty five four times in the game and came

1842
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 4: away with zero points. But they looked disinterested. They looked disjointed.

1843
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 4: The connection between Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase seems off.

1844
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 4: I don't feel like they have a true planet running

1845
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 4: back of who their guy is. I thought this was

1846
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,600
Speaker 4: Chase Brown's job. He's now getting out carried by some

1847
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 4: AJP Ryan. I thought as much as the offensive line

1848
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 4: has taken strides forward as of late, I thought they

1849
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 4: took one back yesterday. Collectively, I think Joe Burrow is

1850
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 4: probably to blame for a little bit of that as well,

1851
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,879
Speaker 4: with protections and where things were set. But from coaching

1852
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 4: to the effort to the team seemingly not being prepared,

1853
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 4: which is crazy because you played the team sixteen days

1854
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 4: ago and you know who the opponent is and you

1855
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,759
Speaker 4: know what was on the line. I know it was slim,

1856
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 4: but there was still a playoff path. Yeah, and sure

1857
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 4: that effort did not match what I thought should have

1858
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 4: been the effort for a game of that magnitude.

1859
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 2: That effort didn't match what it should be in the

1860
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 2: middle of August, much less when you're playing for your

1861
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 2: playoff Live to me, and we've done this show for

1862
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 2: a long time now. I enjoy sort of going up

1863
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 2: and down the game and talking about certain plays and

1864
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 2: coaching decisions and sometimes second guessing them, sometimes second guessing

1865
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 2: the other coach, and discussing the strategies that each team use.

1866
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 2: None of those matter to me, Nope, But yesterday wasn't

1867
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 2: about x's and o's. Yesterday wasn't about any sort of

1868
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 2: personnel decision. Yesterday wasn't about things that the Ravens or

1869
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 2: Bengals did to counter what the other was doing. Yesterday,

1870
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 2: to me, was about one thing. It was about how

1871
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 2: the Bengals looked and going about their jobs. I don't

1872
01:30:57,560 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 2: consider myself to be an expert on anything, and God

1873
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 2: knows I've had a warp perspective on a lot of

1874
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 2: things in my life, but I do think I do

1875
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 2: think I trust myself when it comes to assessing whether

1876
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 2: or not a team is broken and whether or not

1877
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 2: the efforts being compromised. You and I are huge Juicy

1878
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 2: basketball fans. They played a game last year against Kansas

1879
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 2: State where the x's and o's didn't matter. The ramifications

1880
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 2: of the game didn't matter, the strategies didn't matter, the

1881
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 2: opponent didn't matter, and you and I both started our

1882
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 2: respective shows by asking what was that?

1883
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 3: Because clearly there was something off. Clearly there was something off.

1884
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 2: There are games like that where just how it looks,

1885
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 2: the vibe, the mood, the collective effort, it just stands out,

1886
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 2: or lack thereof, stands out more than anything. Yesterday was

1887
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 2: that game. And so in the middle of this conversation

1888
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 2: about Burrow and where his head is and what he

1889
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 2: may do, it was even more striking that yesterday it

1890
01:31:58,880 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 2: looked the way it did.

1891
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't write much down taking notes about scheme,

1892
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 4: as you said in play calling, I asked did the

1893
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:11,640
Speaker 4: team quit? Have they quit? And where's the urgency? And

1894
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 4: then I wrote down, now, what what happens going forward?

1895
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 4: We talked about the lack of urgency. They ran twenty

1896
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 4: seven plays in the fourth quarter consecutively, Yeah, and zero

1897
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 4: points to show for it, and took thirteen minutes off

1898
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:27,839
Speaker 4: the clock. I get. They waved the white flag midway

1899
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 4: through the third quarter. In my opinion, Burrow looked disinterested.

1900
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase looked disinterested. Your best players didn't look like

1901
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 4: they care to be there, And it just so happened

1902
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 4: randomly to fall in a week where Joe Burrow had

1903
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:45,679
Speaker 4: those comments on Wednesday. To me, those are too many

1904
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 4: things that are correlating, too many coincidences that to me

1905
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 4: screams that there's something else at play here. I don't

1906
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 4: know what it is, and I don't think anyone outside

1907
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 4: of that stadium, walls, or maybe even Joe Burrow's life

1908
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 4: know what it is. But hearing Jamar Chase talked that

1909
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 4: way after the game, it was just unique. And I

1910
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 4: said that the backdrop of all of this was you

1911
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:12,639
Speaker 4: were still playing for something. You beat them yesterday, we're watching,

1912
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:15,639
Speaker 4: we're talking about this game tonight much more, much more

1913
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:18,759
Speaker 4: than we have today. Yeah, now can you matter?

1914
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 11: Right?

1915
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 4: And that's the frustrating part. And you'll hear from Zach

1916
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 4: Taylor that's you know, Joe's going to play the last

1917
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 4: three because we still want to win. Whatever. You didn't

1918
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 4: want to win yesterday. You didn't do the things to

1919
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 4: put in place yesterday to show that you want to win. Now,

1920
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,559
Speaker 4: you want to win the last three for what better

1921
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 4: draft spot.

1922
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned the game tonight because I was

1923
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 2: thinking about this yesterday morning. We all understood what the

1924
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 2: odds were, right, I mean, they were plus. I think

1925
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 2: yesterday morning plus fifteen hundred to win the AFC North,

1926
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 2: if you want to go by percentages based on simulators,

1927
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 2: somewhere between two and four percent based on your model.

1928
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 3: But I'm thinking, like, you.

1929
01:33:56,479 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 2: Know, if they can beat Baltimore at the very length,

1930
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:04,680
Speaker 2: I watched tonight's game with added interest. I think Pittsburgh's

1931
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 2: gonna beat Miami. Miami has played well, but they haven't

1932
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 2: beaten anybody. It's cold weather to his bad in cold weather.

1933
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 2: The fact that TJ. Watt is not available hurts, but

1934
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,640
Speaker 2: I don't think it kills Pittsburgh against this opponent. But

1935
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 2: I'm thinking yesterday morning, as I was driving to do

1936
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 2: the pregame show, and I drove my car right in Uber,

1937
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 2: I was thinking, like, all right, win today and at

1938
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 2: least this advance is to tomorrow, and at least to

1939
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,640
Speaker 2: a degree, this advances to next week. Survive in advance, right,

1940
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Speaker 2: So like it would have been fun tonight watch Steelers

1941
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Speaker 2: and Dolphins, thinking about, all right, can Miami help the

1942
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 2: Bengals open the door a little bit more? Maybe they

1943
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 2: couldn't have now doesn't matter, but in the third and

1944
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 2: fourth quarter yesterday, that's that's what it looks like when

1945
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 2: a team has just waved the white flag. And we've

1946
01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 2: talked about it a lot today, huddling, taking all the

1947
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 2: time between plays, Yeah, dinking and dunking, running the ball,

1948
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 2: getting a first down and then okay, let's huddle up

1949
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:14,719
Speaker 2: and talk about the next I mean we I've seen teams.

1950
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 2: I've seen this team play with urgency and go tempo,

1951
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:19,640
Speaker 2: and let's put our foot on the game. If you

1952
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 2: watch the second half against Detroit, they did that offensively.

1953
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:24,560
Speaker 2: Now they could get stops on defense. Thinking that with

1954
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Speaker 2: Jake Browning, I know what it's.

1955
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Speaker 3: Supposed to look like, was the exact opposite in the

1956
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 3: third and fourth quarter, and so you know, yeah, there's

1957
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 3: the Joe Burrow conversation, but the bigger conversation is about

1958
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 3: a coach whose team did that, because it's never done

1959
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 3: it before.

1960
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 4: We've been so caught up in Burrow injury, Burrow coming back,

1961
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,479
Speaker 4: keeping the season alive, and it feels like mo for

1962
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 4: the last month, what have we been doing? Every game

1963
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 4: has always been all right, this is the chance to go,

1964
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 4: and then they lose the game and it's wealth there's

1965
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 4: still a path uh huh, when in reality, this team's

1966
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 4: got four wins. They're not a good team. We've tried,

1967
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 4: you know, yesterday as far as yesterday we're sitting down

1968
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 4: there talking pregame and say, well, all they gotta do

1969
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:07,200
Speaker 4: is win four in a row, when in reality they've

1970
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:10,639
Speaker 4: won four all year. They're a bad football team. We've

1971
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:12,599
Speaker 4: continued to try to push this can down the road

1972
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 4: a little bit longer, and now you have to take

1973
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 4: in the realization of who and what they are, which

1974
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 4: is a four win football team. They're four and ten.

1975
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 4: Their record is who they are. Bad teams make those

1976
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 4: type of mistakes that this team has made all year.

1977
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 4: But mistakes are one thing, rolling over as another. And

1978
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 4: I believe that we watched a team roll over yesterday.

1979
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 3: And you talk about like bad team.

1980
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:40,679
Speaker 2: They masked so many things by how they finished last

1981
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 2: year against bad quarterbacks.

1982
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 3: Yep, now you get credit for winning in the end.

1983
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Speaker 4: What are they gonna do this year?

1984
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 3: But like so, the whole bad team thing.

1985
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 2: I go back to this offseason, Tony, we talked about

1986
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 2: their chances of making the playoffs versus their chances of

1987
01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 2: winning the Super Bowl, and I think both of us

1988
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 2: were in the same place. If Joe plays seventeen games,

1989
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 2: there'll be a playoff team, but I'm not convinced they're

1990
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 2: a title team because I think it's a great quarterback

1991
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 2: with a deeply flawed roster that didn't change. So the

1992
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 2: question now becomes, what do you do to change it

1993
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 2: dramatically enough in the short term to contend for championships?

1994
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Speaker 4: Right? How do you do it?

1995
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 2: I'm less interested in sneak back into the playoffs and

1996
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 2: you never know once you get there, Like, what is

1997
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:30,719
Speaker 2: it gonna take for in the short term Duke Tobin?

1998
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 2: And I'll assume it's gonna be Duke Tobin to remake

1999
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 2: the roster to the degree that it goes from one

2000
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 2: of the worst to one that you go as a

2001
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 2: championship roster.

2002
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Speaker 4: I don't know where that confidence comes from right now,

2003
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 4: that's the issue. I don't know where you get that

2004
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 4: confidence from, and I think that's highly worrisome going forward.

2005
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 4: They were massed down the stretch last year. Were they

2006
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 4: gonna win the next three? Beat the Dolphins, Cardinals, and Cleveland,

2007
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 4: You're gonna say, well, seven to ten. They played better

2008
01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 4: down the stretch. They're closer to wash Rich repeat. That's

2009
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:05,680
Speaker 4: why I wouldn't play Joe Burrow down to stretch, I

2010
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 4: won a better draft pick.

2011
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 3: It's easy to say, you know, and it's true to

2012
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 3: a degree.

2013
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 2: This season went down in flames the minute Joe Burrow

2014
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 2: walked off the field in that game against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

2015
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 3: But that they won. But I think most of us.

2016
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 2: After that game, as devastating as it was to see

2017
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:26,759
Speaker 2: that Joe Burrow is going to have to have surgery,

2018
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 2: most of us believed they Jake Browning can keep the

2019
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 2: team afloat right quality backup quarterback. You know, we all

2020
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:40,679
Speaker 2: read that ranking that ESPN had second best backup QB

2021
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 2: in the league. I think most of us believed that

2022
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 2: Jake Browning plus a two to zero start, the offensive

2023
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 2: weaponry they have, they can still get to December.

2024
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, hanging in there. Yeah, and then maybe Joe's back.

2025
01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 4: This was the original week we thought he'd be coming back.

2026
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean came back three weeks early. All of

2027
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 2: that for me, went up and smoked Week four against Denver. Yep,

2028
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:08,640
Speaker 2: they were bad against the Vikings, but a lot of

2029
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 2: weird stuff happened, turnovers and the game kind of got

2030
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 2: out of hand, and all right, fine, now we've seen

2031
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 2: what the Denver. Broncos have done since, but at that

2032
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:21,600
Speaker 2: point Denver was one and two, and you know, go

2033
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 2: there and win, and then they're at least coming home

2034
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 2: for the next win against Detroit and green Bay is

2035
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 2: that's not an impossible game, and they would be favorite

2036
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 2: at home when they play the Steelers, and then it's

2037
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 2: the Jets and it's the winnable games. I went to

2038
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 2: that game in Denver, and I remember that that day

2039
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 2: doing the pregame show with you saying like, this is

2040
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 2: the game, win this one three and one. You got

2041
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 2: a little bit of a cushion and they were non

2042
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 2: competitive and so like to me, the night that this

2043
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,480
Speaker 2: season ended. I know it's easy to say Burrow against Jacksonville,

2044
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 2: that's fine, it's not inaccurate, But to me, it was

2045
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 2: that Monday night in Denver when they got clobbered in

2046
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:00,680
Speaker 2: a game. It was twenty eight three and frankly a like.

2047
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,679
Speaker 4: Fifty to three. Yeah, Yeah, was that the moment for you? Yeah?

2048
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:06,639
Speaker 4: And I think again, at times you let yourself believe

2049
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 4: because Flacco's magic for a little bit and so coming back. Yeah,

2050
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 4: But at the root of it, this team it's been

2051
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:16,680
Speaker 4: a it's a bad team, bad team, and you know,

2052
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 4: we we try to find hope, and we try to

2053
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 4: find reasons that that it can change, and Nine changes a.

2054
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:21,640
Speaker 3: Lot of that.

2055
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 4: And uh, I think that's why yesterday's even harder. It's

2056
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 4: because all along it's like, well, as long as nine's good,

2057
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 4: and right now doesn't feel like he's good. No, And

2058
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 4: and that makes all of this even more worrisome.

2059
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 2: Twenty five away from six o'clock, still ahead the obligatory

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Speaker 2: tractually obligatory.

2061
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, airing of.

2062
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Speaker 3: Zach Taylor's press conference. Let's go, can't wait, that's coming

2063
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Speaker 3: up in just a bit.

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Speaker 3: We talked extensively about the Bengals in the NFL. This afternoon.

2083
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Speaker 2: The UC Bearcats are prepping for the Liberty Bowl. The

2084
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:57,639
Speaker 2: entire offensive line available at today's workout. Brendan Sorosby, however,

2085
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 2: tells ESPN he is entering the transfer portal Tony a

2086
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 2: quarterback for U.

2087
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Speaker 4: See what now, portal? I believe portal. I mean, that's

2088
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:11,720
Speaker 4: unfortunately the way you're gonna have to go. See how

2089
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 4: the bowl game plays out, see how the practices play out.

2090
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 4: With with Likedenberg and Samas Jones, but I think you

2091
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 4: gotta find your answer in the portal.

2092
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're the same type of player, but

2093
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,600
Speaker 2: I feel the same way about Brendan Sorosby and you

2094
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 2: see that I felt about Andy Dalton with the Bengals.

2095
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 2: Sure where I'm not sure he's the guy to get

2096
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 2: him to the next level. Yeah, but you could do

2097
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:35,519
Speaker 2: a hell of a lot worse, correct, And that worriesome.

2098
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 2: And that's how I feel like, I don't can you

2099
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 2: find anything better? I like Brendon a lot. My interactions

2100
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 2: with him have been awesome. I think you would say

2101
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:49,640
Speaker 2: the same. Good dude. I hope whether it's at another

2102
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 2: school or in the NFL, I hope it does well.

2103
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 3: Have no reason to root against him. I don't think.

2104
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:01,679
Speaker 2: They're gonna win a big twelve twoampionship with Brendan Soresby's quarterback.

2105
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what's behind Jordan number two?

2106
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:07,560
Speaker 4: Don't want to know. I don't want to know.

2107
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,599
Speaker 2: And so in the short term, I think it's going

2108
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 2: to be a combo of Brady Lichtenberg and Samage Jones

2109
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:14,920
Speaker 2: and the Liberty Bowl.

2110
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 4: Every Bowl is going to be an uphill battle because

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Speaker 4: I know Navy is not having players that are going

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01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 4: to be sitting out.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 2: I saw somebody put on social media, and I don't

2115
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 2: think this was in relation to the Bearcats.

2116
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 3: It was during the Army Navy game.

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Speaker 2: About how like a service academy is the last team

2118
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:27,800
Speaker 2: you want to play at a bowl game, yep, because

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Speaker 2: their dudes aren't going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Nope, No, they want to be there and they're not

2121
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 3: going to wherever. The bold destination is to go hang out,

2122
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Speaker 3: no business trip. I don't gather, and I could be

2123
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:43,599
Speaker 3: dead wrong about this. I don't gather that Samage Jones

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Speaker 3: is option A at QB next year.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. Again, maybe they maybe you make

2126
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 4: strides over the offseason, but I felt like last time

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Speaker 4: I saw him in action, there were still a ways

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01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 4: that he needed to go.

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Speaker 3: What's the quarterback who's better than Brendan Soresby cost? I

2130
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Speaker 3: don't know, right, it's a good question. I don't know

2131
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:08,479
Speaker 3: specifically what Brendan made. Yeah, I've heard people speculate and theorized.

2132
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there are people throwing out four million

2133
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 4: that he's going to get somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Can you see pay a quarterback for a million? Now?

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Speaker 4: They can't.

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Speaker 3: If they can't pay a quarterback four million dollars, are

2137
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 3: they really going to get a QB who's better than

2138
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Speaker 3: Brendan Soresby?

2139
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Speaker 4: Probably not. Momentum forward positivity.

2140
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Speaker 3: I'm glad we aren't making this a very long segment. Yeah, well,

2141
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Speaker 3: good luck to Brendan again.

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Speaker 2: Man like a quarterback at the end of the quarterback

2143
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 2: play at the end of the season. I thought, wasn't

2144
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Speaker 2: the asset it needs to be. I'm terrified to find

2145
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 2: out what what's behind door number two?

2146
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:51,439
Speaker 4: Correct? And we're about to find out, Uh, what do

2147
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Speaker 4: we have?

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Speaker 11: We have?

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Speaker 2: Zach Taylor, Terry is or Here's the contractually obligated airing

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Speaker 2: of a Zach Taylor's press conference on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: US Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 13: After after sleeping on last night, what's kind of the

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Speaker 13: biggest thing that jumped out about why things didn't.

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Speaker 11: Go your way?

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Speaker 10: Well, similar to how I felt coming off the field.

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Speaker 10: You know, we had five possessions on offense inside of

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Speaker 10: the thirty two yard line and no points and and

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Speaker 10: so for that to happen, you know, that was really

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Speaker 10: on pace to be a twenty to seventeen type of game.

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Speaker 10: Typically when we play those guys and to come up

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Speaker 10: with no points, that's obviously being indicator while we were

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Speaker 10: twenty four to nothing. Andrew Wise, how did y'all come

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Speaker 10: out of yesterday?

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 10: I think there's nobody I'm ready to say can't go

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Speaker 10: right now. We had a bunch of guys that kind

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Speaker 10: of got nicked up and we'll be limited throughout the week,

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Speaker 10: But nobody i'd say with extreme confidence can't go on Sunday.

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Speaker 10: Maybe as the week progressors will get there. But Chris Jenkins,

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Speaker 10: like as I think the eldest guys, I'd say, you know,

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Speaker 10: the guys that come up on the injury report are

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Speaker 10: gonna be Chris Jenkins, Joseph Osi, Man's no off, Charlie.

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Speaker 10: Those are the main ones that strike me right now.

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Speaker 10: But again I'm not We'll keep working through the week

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Speaker 10: and see where those guys end up. I was Shamar

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Speaker 10: to playing and could he be a possibility in this week.

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Speaker 10: I think he's a possibility. We'll just walk through the

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Speaker 10: week and see where he ends up. His first week

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Speaker 10: back at practice coming off the injury as a rookie,

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Speaker 10: he pushed himself pretty good. Didn't feel is the right

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Speaker 10: time to put him back in the game. So we'll

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Speaker 10: work through Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and see where he.

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Speaker 3: Lands on that.

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Speaker 10: Now that you guys are officially out of playoff contention,

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Speaker 10: will be more conservative with deciding on if players or

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Speaker 10: kenn or can't go. We'll see that's a case by

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Speaker 10: case basis to see where but he ends up.

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Speaker 3: Is your expectation that Burrow will start the rest of

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Speaker 3: the season.

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Speaker 12: Yes, you're not going to use it as an excuse,

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Speaker 12: but how much you feel like the cold impacted things,

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Speaker 12: especially offensively yesterday?

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Speaker 10: Well, I think both teams played in the cold, so

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Speaker 10: certainly we won't use this as an excuse. Those are

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Speaker 10: rare temperatures. That was very similar to that New England

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Speaker 10: game we played in twenty two. That's that's identical how

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Speaker 10: it felt. But again, they they went out there and

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Speaker 10: played football just like we did, they coached us like

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Speaker 10: we did, and they came away with the twenty four

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Speaker 10: to nothing win.

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Speaker 13: Hasn't been any consideration of all the kind of brow

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Speaker 13: down for the last three games that come up at all?

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Speaker 11: Why not?

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Speaker 10: Because we want to win. What are the conversations with Joe?

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Speaker 14: What will they be like after he took so much

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Speaker 14: responsibility yesterday's act form what happened? Are you going to

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Speaker 14: break down the film more closely or are you going

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Speaker 14: to have more generic conversations with them?

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Speaker 10: Well, I don't we break down the film pretty thoroughly

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Speaker 10: with all these guys. And I think it's great to

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Speaker 10: see your leaders take ownership for their performance. That's that's

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Speaker 10: critical for us to continue to progress, is guys taking

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Speaker 10: accountability for it. And so I was I was proud

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Speaker 10: that Joe did that. That wasn't his best game he's

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Speaker 10: played since he's been here, certainly, and and for whatever

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Speaker 10: reason that was the cold or whatever doesn't really matter

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Speaker 10: at this point. And so again I thought it was

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Speaker 10: good he took accountability front of the team last night,

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Speaker 10: took accountabilding here too, accountability with me. I take accountability.

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Speaker 10: I played a big part of that as well, And

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Speaker 10: so I think it's good to see when your leaders

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Speaker 10: do that. And I'm not surprised that he did. That's

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Speaker 10: that's who he is.

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Speaker 12: When Joe got heard, a question we asked us show

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Speaker 12: was will he change the way he plays coming back

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Speaker 12: from the injury? And I think through three games it's

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Speaker 12: a pretty clear no. One of the things you like

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Speaker 12: just about his willingness to extend plays, to take those

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Speaker 12: type of chances, and what gives you confidence from.

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Speaker 3: Me to keep doing that.

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Speaker 10: Well, there's not really a quarterback you're going to find

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Speaker 10: an AFC that plays in a meaningful games late in

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Speaker 10: the season that doesn't take those chances. And so to

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Speaker 10: take to take a superpower away from him where he

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Speaker 10: has been strong through contact and extended plays and created

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Speaker 10: big plays from that stuff. Now, certainly we want him

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Speaker 10: healthy throughout the season in his career, and so there

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Speaker 10: is that balance there of all of that. But when

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Speaker 10: you watch guys I only have to mention my name

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Speaker 10: that that play on through the playoffs, a big, huge

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Speaker 10: part of what they do is make plays out of

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Speaker 10: nothing and and so again Joe's done a great job

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Speaker 10: of that over the course of his career. And there's

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Speaker 10: just a balance of staying healthy and also finding the

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Speaker 10: moment where you can extend those plays and make those

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Speaker 10: big plays.

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Speaker 13: How much of that depends on him in terms of

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Speaker 13: being healthy, How much of that depends on him being

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Speaker 13: able to take care of herself during a game.

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Speaker 4: It's all of it.

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's again, it's like calling it's protection, it's

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Speaker 10: him decision making. I mean that that elefactor's into it.

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Speaker 13: You talking about accountability and kind of in your role

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Speaker 13: and kind of when things will go well, what does

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Speaker 13: that necessarily look like throughout the course of the week.

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Speaker 3: I know you tell it, you know you talk to

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Speaker 3: us about it, But what does that look like for

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Speaker 3: you in.

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Speaker 10: Terms of just for the coaches, with players anything where

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Speaker 10: I feel like I've fallen short and can do better,

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Speaker 10: I'm not going to hesitate to admit that. I'm not

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Speaker 10: going to ask the players to take ownership for something

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Speaker 10: that we're holding accountable for and I'm not going to

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Speaker 10: do the same thing. So I don't I don't think

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Speaker 10: that's I feel very comfortable doing that and exposing myself

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Speaker 10: that way. You know, with him, it's I don't want

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Speaker 10: anybody have an ego about this that as everybody else's fault.

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Speaker 11: It's not.

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Speaker 10: It's one hundred percent on me, you know. To be

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Speaker 10: with the record we're at right now, to score no

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Speaker 10: points yesterday on offense, when I call the plays, that's

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Speaker 10: I mean that starts and ends with me, really, and

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Speaker 10: so we can talk about all the other things that happen,

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Speaker 10: but it's it's frustrating and yes, disappointing.

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Speaker 1: This has been a Zach Taylor press conference on the

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Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 8: Hi.

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Speaker 3: There you go, Zach Taylor's press conference earlier today. Boy,

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Speaker 3: that was enthoosy. We are done.

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Speaker 2: We're back in Florence next week for the Christmas edition. Yes,

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Speaker 2: of the Tony and Low Football Show coming out for

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Speaker 2: the Christmas edition. It's going to be a blast. Gifts galore,

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Speaker 2: gifts galore, more gifts galore. Yeah, we're done, zep mercifully, mercifully.

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Speaker 2: He is back tomorrow for Tony Pike since he three

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Speaker 2: to sixtem. I return at a different establishment at three

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Speaker 3: Not really.

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Speaker 2: seats for him. And we'll talk to you tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Have a great night.

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