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Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, welcome in final hour of Tony Pike Sincy

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Speaker 2: three sixty. Here on ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Austin Elmore.

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Speaker 2: You might be wondering where in God's green Earth is Tony.

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Speaker 2: Tony still here? Are still with us? I should say

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Speaker 2: he's still employed here. I know everybody has PTSD from

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Speaker 2: a month or so ago. He's just under the weather

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Speaker 2: today and Lord knows it's been going around. Mo had

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Speaker 2: it for a while. I had it for a little while.

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Speaker 2: I'm still dealing with it. My throat. I just can't

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Speaker 2: get it to feel comfortable. It's just irritated. And that's

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Speaker 2: what happens when you talk for a living. It's part

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Speaker 2: of the deal. But hopefully Tony feels better tomorrow and

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Speaker 2: he'll be back in the big chair for our final

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Speaker 2: live show of the week. Prior to Thanksgiving, Black Friday

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Speaker 2: and the holiday weekend. Want to talk a little bit

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Speaker 2: of college basketball. I want to talk a little bit

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Speaker 2: about Trey Hendrickson coming up. At the end of this

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Speaker 2: hour around two forty five, will check in briefly with

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Speaker 2: Mo Egger and Joe Burrow is slated to speak with

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Speaker 2: the media for the first time in a week or so,

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Speaker 2: So Joe ahead of Thursday night, Thanksgiving Night, supposed to

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Speaker 2: talk to the media. Will carry it for you live

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Speaker 2: here on ESPN fifteen thirty, and then we'll probably just

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Speaker 2: do a natural transition into MO. I expect Joe to

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Speaker 2: talk well through the end of our show, so Mo

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Speaker 2: and I'll be on together, and then MO will take

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Speaker 2: over after Joe begins talking. So that's what you have

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Speaker 2: to look forward to. Also, as I mentioned, a little

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Speaker 2: bit of college basketball and Trey Hendrickson and as well.

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Speaker 2: But we'll start the hour with a phone call. Our

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Speaker 2: guy Chris in Alexandria wants to talk Bengals.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Chris, Hey, Audio, thank's taking my call?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for calling.

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Speaker 3: I know you hear this probably more than you care to,

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Speaker 3: and I think I understand.

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Speaker 4: The why of it.

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Speaker 3: But your off air voice is terrifying.

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Speaker 2: My Oh yeah, when I when I'm screening, the phone calls. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why it does that. We've never been

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Speaker 2: able to figure that out, but for whatever reason, it's

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Speaker 2: like our voice is like distorted and it Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: sounds like something out of a horror movie.

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Speaker 5: It does.

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Speaker 3: It's like when they're interviewing something someone that wants to

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Speaker 3: be incognito and one of the murder shows my wife watches.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Yeah, it's so weird.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Hey, I think you agree with me here. I've

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Speaker 3: gone back and forth on the Burrow thing when he

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Speaker 3: first was hurt and it was like December comeback. I

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Speaker 3: was like, man, if we're out of it, don't play

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Speaker 3: the guy like there's no need for it. But you know,

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Speaker 3: there's still a third of a season left, and I

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Speaker 3: think I'm in your camp that I do want to

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Speaker 3: watch winning football, like at least last week. Last week

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Speaker 3: the game was watchable.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't me and my buddies sitting around sarcastically talking

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Speaker 3: about how we're going to figure out a way to lose.

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Speaker 3: It was watching yeah, and it was it was good

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Speaker 3: to see guys like Flacco out there giving it there

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Speaker 3: all when clearly, clearly they weren't one hundred percent. You know,

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Speaker 3: they haven't given up. That's that's something.

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Speaker 2: And I thought, you know, a game like the Patriots

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Speaker 2: game after where they after the way they lost to

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Speaker 2: I thought that that was a chance we'd see them

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Speaker 2: see a lack of effort, kind of like we saw

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Speaker 2: think that's a credit to Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Totally agree. You know, I think it's interesting when you

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Speaker 3: go into a game expecting to lose four touchdown by

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Speaker 3: least watchable football because I like football. Yeah, I want

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Speaker 3: if he stays healthy for these six games, he will

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Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying, So I get that,

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Speaker 3: I understand all that. That all being said, I'm not

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Speaker 3: don't think Lamar Jackson is himself, But one of the odds,

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Speaker 3: Burrow comes out hot and Jamar Chase looks good, and

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Speaker 3: it doesn't look like we're gonna have Higgins. We know

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Speaker 3: we're not gonna have Hendrickson. And the defense actually plays

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Speaker 3: with at least almost a full compliment and Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna take a lot of things to go right

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And that's kind of where they're at as

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. I don't know that I go

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Speaker 2: But I don't have a lot of expectations. And it's

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Speaker 2: tough to go primetime on the road AFC North short week.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about that a lot. It's just not easy

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Speaker 2: That's kind of where my mind is that.

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Speaker 3: I feel the same way. I'm watching the offensive line thinking, okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: But I just don't have a lot of expectations, especially

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you. And Chris, thank you

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Speaker 2: for the phone call. Man, I really appreciated it. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's right. I mean, they've they've found ways to lose

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Speaker 2: that they have no business losing. They haven't played complimentary

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Speaker 2: It's still a long, long road, a long way to

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Speaker 2: go for this team to get better. And I mentioned

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Speaker 2: yesterday around this time, when I was talking in Tony's

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Speaker 2: because this past offseason, Duke Tobin kind of said multiple times,

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Speaker 2: They thought this year, based off the AFC, based off

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Speaker 2: that deal with Trey Hendrickson thinking we can get back

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Speaker 2: he's still productive at a rate that is not ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a brilliant move by the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: I thought they fleeced Trey Hendrickson. I thought Mike Brown

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Speaker 2: and Katie and Troy had finally had won another contract

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Speaker 2: I feel similarly, the Bengals have moved on from a

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Speaker 2: lot of times the Bengals have been right. And one

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Speaker 2: of the reasons I've felt that way about Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 2: is that he's not an elite athlete. Yeah, he's a

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Speaker 2: he takes great care of himself, and he plays really

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Speaker 2: hard and all that stuff. But he's not a Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 2: He's not a Max Crosby, he's not a Mic of Parsons.

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Speaker 2: He's not a complete freak of an athlete. He has

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Speaker 2: this year he's been injured and he's not really in

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Speaker 2: This is ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: From locker room whispers to stadium roars. He's got it all,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, ESPN fifteen thirty. My name is Austin Elmore.

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Speaker 2: You'll hear from Joe Burrow about twenty minutes from right

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Speaker 2: now when he meets with the mediahead of Thanksgiving Night

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Speaker 2: football in Baltimore. I'll talk a little bit of college basketball,

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Speaker 2: though didn't get a chance to do that. Yesterday obviously

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Speaker 9: Well, certainly a terrific win for our program. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Richard Patino after the win over West Virginia Xavier back

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Speaker 2: in action Friday night. Friday afternoon, five thirty is the

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Speaker 10: You know, it's good to get back on the court

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Speaker 11: shots weren't going in in the first half, no, we

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Speaker 11: really let it affect us. And we're not strong defensively,

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Speaker 11: and you know the difference if you look at the

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Speaker 11: percentages from first to second half, especially from the three

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Speaker 11: for them, you know, that was the difference in the game.

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Speaker 11: And so we still got a lot of guys that

436
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Speaker 11: are learning how we win here and that's that that's

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Speaker 11: with defense and rebounding and and and playing smart, and

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Speaker 11: so do not do that at the level that we

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Speaker 11: would like to. That said, really proud because good teams

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Speaker 11: find a way to win when they don't play their best.

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Speaker 11: I think our guys did that tonight. And you go

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Speaker 11: down the box score and it's not one or two guys.

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Speaker 11: We got four guys, not just in double figures, but

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Speaker 11: with fourteen or more and different guys stepping up at

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Speaker 11: key moments throughout the game. And basically we've been on

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Speaker 11: a ten day road trip. I mean, we haven't been

447
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Speaker 11: able to practice in our own facility since like last Tuesday.

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Speaker 11: We had to bust up early because we don't have

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Speaker 11: a second gym to practice in. We don't and then

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Speaker 11: of course with the turn of being hosted here, which

451
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Speaker 11: was awesome for our volleyball team, so so thankful for

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Speaker 11: that and proud of those girls. But we literally have

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Speaker 11: not practiced in our own gym since last Tuesday. And

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Speaker 11: so we've been on a week long road trip essentially,

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Speaker 11: and so for our guys respond the way they did,

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Speaker 11: and it'd be a collective effort, not just one or

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Speaker 11: two guys.

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Speaker 2: I thought was really good. That is n k U

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Speaker 2: Norse head coach Darren Horn after the victory last night.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break, we'll come back, we'll

461
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Speaker 2: check in with Moegger. Then we'll hear from the Bengals

462
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Speaker 2: quarterback oh Burrow meeting with the media this afternoon ahead

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Speaker 2: of Thanksgiving night football. That's next. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 5: From the brown Heating at tempt It's time for since

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Speaker 5: the three sixty quick hits on ESPN fifteen thirty looking.

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Speaker 2: For I think we found Mo. I believe he's at

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Speaker 2: Oakley Greens for his typical Tuesday show and Moe joining us. Now, Hi, Mo,

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Speaker 2: how are you?

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Speaker 5: I am well? And I just want to say one

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Speaker 5: thing about today's show. Okay, guaranteed human, guaranteed human. That's

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Speaker 5: been that's been the thing around the ESPN fifteen thirty late.

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Speaker 5: If you if you come to Oakley Greens, you'll you're

473
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Speaker 5: guaranteed to see a human me.

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Speaker 2: That's true and Drew. Is Drew going to be Is

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Speaker 2: he going to be parking cars or anything?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: We we uh you know it's it's Thanksgiving and so

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Speaker 5: uh Drew has a busy couple of days in front

479
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Speaker 5: of him. Sure, yeah, he's a delivering turkeys. Oh that's right,

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Speaker 5: folks over the next couple of year, dropping helicopter. I believe, Well,

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Speaker 5: he's just true. He's going door to door.

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Speaker 2: Okay, As a Bengals fan, what do you want to

483
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Speaker 2: hear from Joe Burrow in his press conference today?

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Speaker 5: I am one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 5: That's it, Yes, gonna say, I mean, I'm here to

487
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Speaker 5: save the day. We're gonna win these next six I

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Speaker 5: want to hear, like, is their residual discomfort? How much?

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Speaker 5: How much at all? Is he going to be compromised

490
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Speaker 5: or is he like like he was before the injury?

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Speaker 5: Like that's to me, that's the most important thing we'll see.

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Speaker 5: My guess is we're not going to hear him say

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Speaker 5: I'm one hundred percent. But if there's one thing I

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Speaker 5: want to hear when he steps to the podium, hopefully

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Speaker 5: on time, it's I'm one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Are you not buying that he is one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know. I would be unsurprised

498
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Speaker 5: if he wasn't. Just and look, man, I'm not a doctor.

499
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Speaker 5: I'm not being asked to examine his foot. Weird if

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Speaker 5: I but the original timeline for this was best case

501
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Speaker 5: is early December. It feels like he is rushed back.

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Speaker 5: And I mean, I don't mean like he's doing something irresponsible,

503
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 5: like he has worked his ass off to get back.

504
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Speaker 5: But is is the fact that he is ready to

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Speaker 5: play on Thursday reflective of the fact that he is

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Speaker 5: more willing to deal with pain than perhaps originally thought.

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Speaker 5: The timeline hasn't been accelerated here, Does that mean he's

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Speaker 5: he may be pain free and he maybe one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. But there was a reason he didn't

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Speaker 5: play two days ago, right, if he was one hundred percent,

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Speaker 5: why wouldn't he you have played two days ago. M hm,

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Speaker 5: So it's fair to wonder. And again, man, like I'm

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Speaker 5: okay with him playing. It's not my favorite thing in

514
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Speaker 5: the world because I don't think this team is going

515
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Speaker 5: to make the postseason, but all right, they're playing a

516
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Speaker 5: game with at least a mathematical chance of making it

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Speaker 5: what level of risk is being incurred here that he's

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Speaker 5: that is either equal to or above and beyond the

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Speaker 5: regular level of risk that every quarterback takes on when

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Speaker 5: they play an NFL game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you. What do you have

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Speaker 2: coming up on your show today? Guaranteed human, guaranteed human,

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Speaker 2: that's it, just human people as a human man you.

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Speaker 5: ESPN college football writer Bill Connelly is gonna be on

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Speaker 5: the show this guy. We're gonna talk about the big

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Speaker 5: weekend coming up in college football. Lots of different storylines,

527
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Speaker 5: but he is. He's written what I think is the

528
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Speaker 5: best sports book I've read this year. Or he takes

529
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Speaker 5: on the I think pretty unenviable task of trying to

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Speaker 5: examine what college football's future is gonna look like. He

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Speaker 5: still wants to be the Commissioner of college Football. This

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Speaker 5: has been something he's been lobbying for for eight years.

533
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Speaker 5: And so Bill's gonna come on the show with us

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Speaker 5: at three forty five. It is. You know, we don't

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Speaker 5: have our show on Thursday, but we're doing our Thursday stuff.

536
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Speaker 5: So you got Lee Sterling gonna help us make some

537
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Speaker 5: money this weekend. You got Dan Klaskin's gonna help us

538
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Speaker 5: with fantasy football. This weekend, we're gonna chat with our guy,

539
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Speaker 5: Sean say these Stats and Schemes newsletter. We're gonna spend

540
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Speaker 5: some time on the guy that everybody is writing about

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Speaker 5: as it relates to the Reds. We'll talk about the

542
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Speaker 5: current state of affairs with the UC football team and

543
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Speaker 5: so much more as we get said for Bengals Ravens

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Speaker 5: on Thanksgiving evening.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned college football. Do you find yourself caring at

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Speaker 2: all about Lane Kiffin and where he goes?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I care almost as much about Jordan Hudson and

549
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Speaker 5: Bill Belichick as I do Lane Kiffen. Now, I think

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Speaker 5: the dynamic of a coach leaving his team while they're

551
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Speaker 5: in the playoff is interesting, and if we have that,

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Speaker 5: I never want to hear again anybody complaining about the

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Speaker 5: players leaving. Okay, you know, because this has been a

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Speaker 5: thing now for all these players they leave and they Okay,

555
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Speaker 5: we got a coach who's gonna leave his team, perhaps

556
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Speaker 5: while they have a chance to play for a championship.

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Speaker 5: So miss me with the whole Well, the players need

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Speaker 5: to show more loyalty. But no, I I don't. I

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Speaker 5: did the story, doesn't I don't think Lane Kiffin is

560
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Speaker 5: as interesting as everybody else does. He's a good coach,

561
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Speaker 5: but I don't find him as fascinating as everybody else.

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Speaker 5: So I so, no, I don't. I'm not losing sleep

563
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Speaker 5: wondering we're Lane, We're Lane Kiffin is going to go?

564
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Speaker 5: Nor am I losing sleep worrying about like, is is

565
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Speaker 5: Brian Kelly ever going to be allowed to have a job.

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Speaker 2: What I find interesting about that is, you know, how

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Speaker 2: does Ole miss feel? How do their fans feel? If

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Speaker 2: it feels like an SEC school is a stepping stone

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Speaker 2: job to just other SEC schools? And if you can't

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Speaker 2: get someone like Lane Kiffin, are you ever going to

571
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Speaker 2: really be able to keep a coach?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 2: That that I think is it kind of goes into

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Speaker 2: the conversation maybe that you're going to have later on

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Speaker 2: about the future of college football. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: it's ever going to settle down.

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Speaker 5: No, everybody. I think any job can be considered a

578
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Speaker 5: stepping stone. Yeah, stepping stone to the NFL might be

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Speaker 5: a stepping stone to retirement. I mean, Brian Kelly left

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Speaker 5: Notre Dame to go coach at LSU. Would we all

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Speaker 5: agree Notre Dame's a destination gig. It would you know,

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Speaker 5: you know, you're not gonna want to hear this, But

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Speaker 5: like Jim Harvell had already coached in the NFL, but

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Speaker 5: he went from Michigan to the National Football League, does

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Speaker 5: that make Michigan a stepping stone job? Like we're talking

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Speaker 5: about highly aspirational figures here and and just obscene amounts

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Speaker 5: of money. And I think as long as you have

588
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Speaker 5: those two things, you're never going to have many gigs

589
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Speaker 5: where the you know, the the coach is going to

590
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Speaker 5: be viewed as somebody who stays forever. I also think,

591
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Speaker 5: like we when it comes to coaches, we're still thinking

592
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Speaker 5: about coaching and stability and very antiquated you know terms.

593
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Speaker 5: I'll use UC basketball as a reference. Bob Huggins and

594
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 5: Mick Cronin spoiled us because you see basketball at two

595
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 5: coaches in thirty years. That's not normal. That's that's not normal,

596
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Speaker 5: and it's not going to be normal. If Wes ever

597
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 5: gets the program humming, he's gonna get interest and chances

598
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Speaker 5: are he's gonna go somewhere. And so what would piss

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Speaker 5: me off as an Ole Miss fan is we've got

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Speaker 5: a shot to compete for a national championship and now

601
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Speaker 5: you're gonna go. And maybe that's not Lane Kiffin's fault,

602
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Speaker 5: and maybe that's not Florida's fault or LSU's fault. But again,

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Speaker 5: I never want to hear about how the players are

604
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 5: ruining the sport because they could just go wherever they

605
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 5: want any time. When you have a coach who may

606
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Speaker 5: abandon his team that has a chance to win a national.

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Speaker 2: Championship trying to and waiting for Joe Burrow to come

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Speaker 2: to the podium, he's already five minutes late at a

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Speaker 2: conference guaranteed human Joe Burrow quickly your thoughts on UC

610
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Speaker 2: last night? What was your biggest takeaway?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 5: I don't think I had one. They won a game

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Speaker 5: by thirty points that I thought they would win by

614
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 5: thirty points. I guess my bigger takeaway. Look, the Skyline

615
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Speaker 5: Chili Crosstown shootout is fast approaching. I think a lot

616
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 5: of folks viewed that as an inevitability that you see

617
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 5: is going to be xavier. I don't think it is anymore.

618
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Speaker 5: I think it's a fifty to fifty game. I think

619
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Speaker 5: it's a fifty to fifty game because number one, you

620
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Speaker 5: see has got to get Bob and Miller back on

621
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Speaker 5: the court. It feels like there's a very distinct possibility

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Speaker 5: that he will be back on the court next Friday.

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Speaker 5: But I think he is their best player right now.

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Speaker 5: I think he's their biggest difference maker. But there's been

625
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Speaker 5: nothing overwhelming League and Wes Miller has. I just I

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Speaker 5: heard you play the postgame comments from last night. He's

627
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Speaker 5: trying to be overwhelmingly positive, and I get it, Like,

628
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Speaker 5: I don't blame him because the fan base is a

629
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Speaker 5: little jaded right now. He's swimming up stream when it

630
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Speaker 5: comes to just fans kind of being on board with

631
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Speaker 5: his program right now. They did lose a game to

632
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Speaker 5: a really good Louisville team, but they lost a game

633
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Speaker 5: on Friday. But their performances I don't think have made

634
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Speaker 5: you feel like, holy crap, this team wants big twelve

635
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 5: play gets here is going to be a to take off,

636
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Speaker 5: and I certainly don't think they've played well enough for

637
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Speaker 5: anybody to take the Skyline Chili Crosstown shootout for granted.

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Speaker 5: And then you look at the improvement that Xavier has

639
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 5: made from what they were doing when they played Le Moyne,

640
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 5: and then obviously the Santa Clara game and to a

641
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 5: degree the end of the first half against Iowa to

642
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Speaker 5: how they've played since. I was talking about this with

643
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Speaker 5: somebody at U SEE last night, like they're running really

644
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 5: good stuff. There's a talent gap, there's a talent limitation.

645
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Speaker 5: But that's always the game that before it happens, it's like,

646
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Speaker 5: all right, well, who's gonna win the shootout? Who's gonna

647
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 5: win the shootout? U See does not have history on

648
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 5: its side. That was a game that I think for

649
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 5: months people have looked at it and said, this is

650
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 5: going to be the year where you see wins at

651
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 5: Cintas Center, and they may and my guess is they're

652
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 5: going to be favored. And if you made me pick

653
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 5: who's going to win a game and put a gun

654
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 5: to my head, which would be weird, I would say Cincinnati.

655
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 5: But I don't know that anybody should feel as sure

656
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 5: about that outcome as they did a month ago. And

657
00:34:54,000 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 5: if the Bearcats do lose that game, oh, it's just

658
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 5: what it's I know what it's gonna sound like. I

659
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 5: know what it's gonna sound like. So that game next Friday,

660
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 5: to me is fascinating for a thousand different reasons.

661
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: We're a couple of days away from Thanksgiving. Do you

662
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 2: have a signature dish that you make at Thanksgiving that

663
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: you are responsible for? No? No, no, no. Do you

664
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: are you involved at all in the making of the

665
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving lunch or dinner?

666
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 5: No? Not really? No, okay, no, there's nothing I'm really

667
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 5: I did. I smoked the turkey a couple of years ago,

668
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 5: because I like to smoke stuff, right cigars, I smoked

669
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 5: the turkey. But usually that's my wife, my mother in law.

670
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 5: What I will tell you is this, my mom moved

671
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 5: to Nevada a couple of years ago. Yeah, and every

672
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 5: year I talk about to the people I like that

673
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 5: I eat Thanksgiving with They get mad at me because

674
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 5: all they do is talk about how much I miss

675
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 5: my mom's stuffing. My mom's stuffing is the greatest of

676
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 5: all time. There you go, greatest of all time. And

677
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 5: uh so I wish she would make some put it

678
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 5: on like dry ice and ship it here or drive

679
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 5: it here. But no, I'm I'm not really responsible for

680
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 5: I'm responsible for the Thanksgiving morning mimosas.

681
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: Oh okay, interesting, So you're not running a turkey trot

682
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: or anything like that absolutely not.

683
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 5: I support everybody who is running in this year's Thanksgiving

684
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 5: Day race. That is terrific. But I like a good

685
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 5: holiday breakfast cocktail.

686
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 2: Okay, sure, so that's.

687
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 5: That's I'm kind of responsible for those. I'll do tequila sunrise.

688
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 5: I can make a good bloody Mary.

689
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 2: When's the last time I went for a run?

690
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 12: Oh?

691
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 5: Like like like running from a to B or like

692
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 5: running on a treadmill. Like either treadmill this summer. Okay,

693
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 5: we have treadmills on the main floor of our building

694
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 5: at work. The last time I went for a run?

695
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, like outside? You know, you threw the shorts on,

696
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: you laced them up. You're like, I'm gonna go run however,

697
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: long twenty twelve thirteen in Wow, Okay, can I tell

698
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: you about the time I almost hit Tom Coughlin as

699
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: much as time as you'd like to take as we

700
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 2: wait for Joe Burrow.

701
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 5: All right, So the Bengals are playing the Giants in

702
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 5: twenty twelve and the cold hour is cold out. I

703
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 5: lived on I lived at eight fifteen Elm. I could

704
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 5: say it now because I don't live there downtown. Yeah,

705
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 5: and I had spent the night somewhere and So Sunday morning,

706
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 5: I wake up at like six thirty seven o'clock and

707
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 5: I'm like fumbling for something. I don't know what I

708
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 5: was doing. But there's a little lot next to the

709
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 5: place I lived in and I go to turn in it,

710
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 5: and I like jam on the brakes and I'm like,

711
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 5: holy crap, I must hit that dude. And it was

712
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 5: New York Giants head coach Tom Coughlin out for a

713
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 5: morning run. I just rolled down the window as he

714
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 5: ran away. I was sorry about that, coach, and he

715
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 5: waved wow. And then I think the Bengals won that

716
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 5: game that day.

717
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: They did. There was a lot of snow, if I'm

718
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: not mistaken. Uh, but yeah, I remember that.

719
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 5: He was out running at his like a Giants like giant,

720
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 5: like a Giants hoodie or long sleeve shirt on. And uh.

721
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 5: But the I can't say the last time I went

722
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 5: for a run. It's been it's been a while.

723
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 2: There was a similar thing that happened to me once

724
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: before a Bengals Sunday night game. I think it was

725
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: they hosted the Steelers on a Sunday night and my

726
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: dad and I were walking around downtown getting ready for

727
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: the game. You know, tailgating and all that, and this

728
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: car nearly hit us as we were crossing the street,

729
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 2: slammed on its brakes, whipped around us. It was Ray

730
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: mal Luga. Oh way.

731
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 5: Lots of questions about that.

732
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: On his way into the stadium, license plate said sting

733
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: ray r E y Uh. But yeah, And I'm sure

734
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: there's plenty of Ray mal Luga's stories similar out there

735
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: from people in this area.

736
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 5: When I first met my wife, his name came up,

737
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 5: oh boy, And again this is many. I met my

738
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 5: wife thirteen years ago and she said to me, oh,

739
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 5: we met ray mal Luga. They were at a bar

740
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 5: like a club, her and her friends. Ray mal Luga

741
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 5: comes over and brings a bottle, oh boy, and drinks

742
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 5: it with them and then left, didn't pay for it.

743
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Ray mal.

744
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 5: Luga, I think has reconfigured his life. He has.

745
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: Yes, I was about to say.

746
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 5: That, and and so good for him for doing that,

747
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 5: because it felt like for a while his life needed

748
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 5: to be reconfigured.

749
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: We have we have Joe Burrow at the post. Let's

750
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 2: go to Joe Burrow.

751
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 7: Human When when you got hurt, were you told this

752
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 7: would be a three month process? And obviously you cut

753
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 7: it down.

754
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, originally it was twelve weeks and then

755
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 13: you know, we'll start to talk about it. But just

756
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 13: like with any injury, you start to learn more about

757
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 13: it and start to ask questions about things you can

758
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 13: and can't do. You know, what do we have to

759
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 13: avoid in certain time periods post surgery, and just kind

760
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 13: of take it as it goes.

761
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 7: Did you get creative to cut that time down the.

762
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess you could say that. I think

763
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 4: number one.

764
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 13: I have a physical therapist is Nick and trainers mainly Matt,

765
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 13: that really understood what stress the repair, what we could

766
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 13: and couldn't do in certain time periods, and so we

767
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 13: push it within the limits of what we could do

768
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 13: and kind of just based it on how how I

769
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 13: was feeling, how I was recovering, how it looked the

770
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 13: next day after.

771
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 4: We push it and just went from there.

772
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 12: For you, getting multiple full practices and doing.

773
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 4: That, yeah, it was. It felt good. I needed it.

774
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 13: It felt good to get some reps, both Scott team

775
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 13: and first team, and I.

776
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 4: Think that will serve me well this week.

777
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 13: Having a full week where you know you're expecting to

778
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 13: play and you're going through your preparation like like you're

779
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 13: gonna play and then it doesn't happen. So but it's

780
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 13: good to have that under your belt to to then

781
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 13: go into this week where you're not going to get

782
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 13: a ton of full speed reps because it's a Thursday

783
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 13: night against the team that I played a million times.

784
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 4: And uh, I think that will service was the unknown.

785
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 14: Last week as you're pushing I think to play and

786
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 14: you don't know if it's going to happen or not.

787
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's in that situation.

788
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 13: Yeah, I've been I've been in that spot before, and

789
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 13: you know, trust the decision makers and trust the medical

790
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 13: people and everybody that was involved in the decision making.

791
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 13: And you know, I thought we made a good decision

792
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 13: and now this week will be rid up ready to go.

793
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 15: Jude, just to be clear, you're playing on starting on Thursday, correct,

794
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 15: Like that's okay. You said that this would be very

795
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 15: meaningful to come back on Thanksgiving. Why does this carry

796
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 15: so much meaning to come back with this game specifically?

797
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 4: Number one, it's a division game.

798
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 13: I got a lot of respect for the people on

799
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 13: the opposite side of the ball, but when you play

800
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 13: people twice.

801
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 4: A year, it's.

802
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 13: You you get tired of them, you don't like them,

803
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 13: it's a division rivalry.

804
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 4: You got respect for him, but it's intense out there.

805
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 13: It's something I wanted to be out there for playing

806
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 13: on Thanksgivings, something I've always wanted to do that I

807
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 13: pushed for in the past, and the NFL gave it

808
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 13: to us, and then, you know, the injury happened and

809
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 13: thought I wasn't gonna be able to play, and then

810
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 13: as we got closer, I you know, felt like it

811
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,479
Speaker 13: was a real possibility. So that's exciting to me. And

812
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 13: it's a national stage to go out and improve yourself

813
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 13: again after not playing for several weeks, and every opportunity

814
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 13: that you get to go improve all the hard work

815
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 13: that you've put in the type of player you are

816
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 13: is something that I try to take advantage of.

817
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 15: Your second Thanksgiving Day game correct with at lsu A

818
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 15: M was Thanksgiving card?

819
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 13: Maybe I don't quite, I don't really, I don't. I

820
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 13: don't remember if that was Thanksgiving or not. I don't

821
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 13: remember playing on Thanksgiving before, but.

822
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 4: Could could be.

823
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 5: But what what do you like about?

824
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 10: What? What?

825
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 16: What's so meaningful about that day? Specifically? Like why have

826
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 16: you always liked to want to play in this say.

827
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 13: I think just like a lot of kids, you you

828
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 13: grow up going through Thanksgiving, you have your meals with

829
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 13: your family, and then you go and say on the

830
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 13: couch and typically there's not a lot on except football.

831
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 4: Back in the day it was Lions and somebody.

832
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 13: You go watch Matthew Stafford throw for three hundred four

833
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 13: hundred some yards with Calvin Johnson and probably lose the game,

834
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 13: but it was fun to watch.

835
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 4: You know, those are memories that you have, and so

836
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 4: I kind of always wanted to be the person out there.

837
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 7: You've you've done some really cool things in your career.

838
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 8: Is are you able to just appreciate how cool it

839
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 8: is to come back from major engage on a prime

840
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 8: time thanks to the game that's particularly it's an increase.

841
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 10: Yeah. I think.

842
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 4: Obviously the winning and.

843
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 13: The division championships that we've won are the most exciting

844
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 13: things that that we've done. But whenever you have an

845
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 13: opportunity like this against a divisional opponent that's one five

846
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 13: straight and you're playing on a on a Thursday night

847
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 13: in front of the world, that's that's an exciting opportunity.

848
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 8: When did you make us your high and regardless of

849
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 8: what this team's record is or was going to.

850
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 7: Be that you were going to come back.

851
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 4: As soon as it happened, I was. I was pushing

852
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 4: to do everything that we could to try to get

853
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: back on the field. I'm a football player.

854
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 13: I get paid a lot of money to go and

855
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 13: play a game with my friends, and we work really hard,

856
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 13: and you know, it's intense and there's jobs on the line,

857
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 13: but at the end of the day, it's a game,

858
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 13: and I've worked hard to put myself in this position

859
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 13: and get as healthy as I can be to go

860
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 13: out and play with these guys, and that's something I

861
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 13: wanted to do.

862
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 8: What are your thoughts when people say you're the franchise,

863
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 8: you're the most important player in important age, and you

864
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 8: should be protected for next year and going forward beyond that.

865
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Speaker 13: You understand, Yes, I understand why people feel that way,

866
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 13: But if you look at it from my perspective, I'm.

867
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 4: A football player, and.

868
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 13: If I get hurt, I'm gonna go through the rehab process,

869
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 13: and then I'm going to let everybody know when I

870
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 13: feel like.

871
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 4: I can go out there and play. I don't really

872
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 4: know what else to say about that.

873
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 13: I'm not gonna ever go to somebody and say, yeah,

874
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 13: I'm healthy, But you know, I don't think I don't

875
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 13: think I should go out there and play. That doesn't

876
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 13: make a lot of sense to me. I'm not gonna

877
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 13: live my life and play this game scared of something happening.

878
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, something's gonna happen. It's football.

879
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 13: Guys are gonna get hurt, Guys are gonna get concussions.

880
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 13: You're gonna break bones, tear ligaments. It's a physical, intense game.

881
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 13: That's that's part of this. And yeah, I've had injuries.

882
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 13: There's not a lot I can do about that. I

883
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 13: work really hard to have that not happen. But what

884
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 13: I can do is when it does happen, I can

885
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 13: control how I'm attacking my rehab and attacking practice and

886
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 13: doing everything in my power to get back as quickly

887
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 13: as possible.

888
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: That's what I did.

889
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 9: I change anything about the way you play, like extending

890
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 9: plays and being cautious with that, or you're out there

891
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 9: and you're just gonna play the way you play.

892
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 4: We'll see, we'll see.

893
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 13: I think I'm feeling I'm feeling good, good enough to

894
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 13: go out there and move and and extend obviously pick

895
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 13: my spots when when to do that and when not to.

896
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 4: But I feel confident that in certain moments I'll be

897
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: able to do that.

898
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 6: Sunday probably tough loss for you to have to sit

899
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 6: back and watch, but I mean with Pittsburgh losing as well,

900
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 6: really didn't lose any ground in the division race. So

901
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 6: at this point in time, you know, if you guys

902
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 6: are able to win out, probably a pretty good chance

903
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 6: that you could still get in.

904
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 16: Are you confident that you guys can run the table

905
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 16: down stretch?

906
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 13: I think we just got to take you one game

907
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 13: at a time. I think, yeah, like you said, we

908
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 13: have to win every game at this point. The only

909
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 13: way that you're going to do that is by attacking

910
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 13: each week like you have to be want to know

911
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 13: that week and then move one of the next.

912
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 14: How hard has I know, the rehab and the injury

913
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 14: and all of those things, but watching the team go

914
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 14: through what they've gone through over the past ten games

915
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 14: or nine games about you, how hard does it?

916
00:47:59,320 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 12: Yeah?

917
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 13: It's a It's always tough when when you're not out

918
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 13: there and you can't contribute to when you're losing on

919
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 13: the field.

920
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 4: That's typically the hardest part about this whole thing. And

921
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 4: so Yeah, it was tough. It was tough to watch

922
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: from my position. Obviously, I want to be out there

923
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 4: with everybody, so but that's part of it.

924
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 7: How much have you picked Flaco's brain and try to

925
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 7: learn from him?

926
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 4: Yeah?

927
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 13: I think whenever you have a guy that's played that long,

928
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 13: you can, especially a guy that plays so much differently

929
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 13: than you do, you can you ask him what he

930
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 13: thought in this situation or how how would you react

931
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 13: to this or that? And he's played a long time

932
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 13: and played at a high level. So that's something that

933
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 13: I did take advantage of.

934
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 15: Going back to the earlier question about play style in general,

935
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 15: just not even injury related, but just having been through

936
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 15: it and once you get back to full strength fully,

937
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 15: is there something that you thought about me, I'd like

938
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 15: to play a little bit differently. Have you assessed how

939
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 15: you might like to play as a quarterback?

940
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 3: Roverboard?

941
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 16: Does that change at all? Given what happened with this injury?

942
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 13: You think about a lot of different things when number one,

943
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 13: you have time to think about them, and you know,

944
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 13: you watch a lot of games across the league, and

945
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 13: you see who's playing well, who's not, what's working schematically?

946
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 10: What isn't.

947
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 4: You evaluate everything.

948
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 8: Joe, what's been your impression of the Running game the

949
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 8: last month, month and a half and how instrumental can

950
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 8: that be and kind of helping you ease your way

951
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 8: back here.

952
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 13: Yeah, we gotta keep building on that. That's been that's

953
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 13: been a positive of everything that's been going on. I

954
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 13: think we've been physical. I think schematically we've done a

955
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 13: lot of things to get an advantage in that in

956
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 13: that realm, and we've got to keep building on it.

957
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 13: Chases gonna run like he runs, He's gonna make people

958
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 13: miss and have explosive plays.

959
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 4: He's got to keep blocking the way that we are

960
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 4: in the run game, and I think that momentum will carry.

961
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 12: I assume it's fair to say that it is not

962
00:49:59,000 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 12: one hundred percent.

963
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 4: Where would you put it right now? It's tough to say.

964
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 4: I feel confident that I can go out and do

965
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 4: everything that I need to do to win a game.

966
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 14: Can you take us through and this is going way

967
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 14: back to the injury, but just take us through the

968
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 14: play or you're looking at.

969
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 12: Jamar and what was going on through your mind during

970
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 12: that play? Obviously you end up getting hurt on Yeah,

971
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 12: that was.

972
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 13: Uh, you're trying to get the ball out, and some

973
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 13: unexpected things happen that you can't really let it go,

974
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 13: and then pocket stars collapsed and you try to buy

975
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 13: a little time, and then I just tried to get

976
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 13: myself up and my foot got calm, and then turf so.

977
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 4: Unlucky.

978
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 12: Is there anything you could have done differently?

979
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Speaker 14: I mean, he's obviously jammed up, it's not free, you're

980
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 14: trying to hit him right away, like quarterback wise.

981
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 12: Is there anything that you would have done differently in

982
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 12: that moment?

983
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 4: Hindsight is twenty twenty.

984
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: You can't.

985
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 13: You can't play a play or game or a practice

986
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 13: or anything worried about getting hurd or doing anything like that.

987
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 4: So there's not anything I would have done differently in

988
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 7: That play safe to say this isn't extremely