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Speaker 1: God he was up.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Nightcap on Fat Tuesday on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: Lynch is right around the corner, and so is my Congressman,

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Speaker 2: Thomas Massey. To open up the show. In moments, we'll

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Speaker 2: have Patrick Dornson, the common Sense Cowboy, with some advice

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Speaker 2: for you, a repeat of Saturday's Rock and Roll Archaeology,

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Speaker 2: and much much more. All ahead, and it begins with

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Speaker 2: the man from the fourth District in the Commonwealth of

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Speaker 2: Kentucky and the US House of Representatives. He works for

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Speaker 2: me and you if you live there. Thomas Massey, next

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Speaker 2: senative is my congressman, and yours if you live in

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Speaker 2: north of Kentucky. Thomas Massey joins us again tonight for

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Speaker 2: a few minutes. I understand that the cold trying to

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Speaker 2: sap him out, but now he's feeling better and he's

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Speaker 2: getting the sap out of his maple trees on his farm. Thomas,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Nightcab.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Gerry, Jeff. My voice still is a but they

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Speaker 3: didn't sap it all out of me and I and

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Speaker 3: I have been on the farm today collecting sap from

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Speaker 3: the maple syrup trees and boiling it down to make

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Speaker 3: some maple syrup. Maybe that'll get my health back in line.

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Speaker 2: There you go, a little hot toddy, a little maple syrup,

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Speaker 2: whatever you need, Thomas, and you've got it all right there.

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Speaker 2: You know you're famous, you famously talking about your farm.

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Speaker 2: People talk about this. Really when I mentioned that you're

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Speaker 2: going to be on the air, they talk about your

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Speaker 2: lifestyle and what you've carved out for yourself off the

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Speaker 2: grid more than they almost talk about anything else. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a good thing or bad

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Speaker 2: thing for you. We're going to talk about the other

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Speaker 2: stuff you're into, but you know, I've never really talked

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Speaker 2: to you about your kind of self sustained lifestyle you've

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Speaker 2: got there in northern Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's probably a good thing they're talking about this.

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Speaker 3: I mean with other politicians when they talk about what

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Speaker 3: they do in their spare time, it's not always a

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Speaker 3: good thing. But in the you know, the moments I

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Speaker 3: can catch away from DC, I'm trying to keep up

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Speaker 3: with my farm. I have about fifty head of cattle here.

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Speaker 3: This winter, with a struggle with the single digit temperatures,

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Speaker 3: my water froze up and I had to sense the

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Speaker 3: build a temporary fence so the cattle could get to

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Speaker 3: the creek where the running water wasn't froze even during

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Speaker 3: single digits. And you know, it's kind of a struggle,

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Speaker 3: but I enjoyed the struggle.

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Speaker 4: It keeps things real.

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Speaker 3: It recharges my batteries, you know, metaphorically, but literally too,

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Speaker 3: because I'm off the grids. I have solar here that's

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Speaker 3: charging a lithium battery that I took out of a

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Speaker 3: And it's been running about. Yeah, my house is run

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Speaker 3: every day, every second of every day for ten years

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Speaker 3: off of a wrecked modelesque Tesla battery that I drove

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Speaker 3: down to Georgia and picked up out of a wreck.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I had to reprogram it to make it

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Speaker 3: all work, but it's been worth it. Now they make

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Speaker 3: batteries that you can buy for your house, but ten

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Speaker 3: years ago they didn't, so I had to build my own.

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Speaker 3: And it's not you know, obviously, you can't run on

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Speaker 3: charged with solar panels, which are actually pretty cheap these days.

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Speaker 3: They cost one twentieth of what they cost. When I

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Speaker 3: put my first panels up over twenty years ago, I wish.

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Speaker 2: We were finally making them in this country.

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Speaker 3: Some of them are, are they? Some of them are

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Speaker 3: There's a company where I'm not going to name any companies,

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Speaker 3: are made in the United States. Now, some of them

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Speaker 3: the United States. But you got to give them some

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Speaker 3: credit for assembling in the United States. And some of

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Speaker 3: them are you know, American brands. And again I don't

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Speaker 3: want to name them. Sure, I don't want to give

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Speaker 3: free ads on your show. But anyways, people are maybe

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Speaker 3: at this point in the show saying, oh, Cottners MAGMASSI

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Speaker 3: is a liberal lefty. No, I don't believe we should

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Speaker 3: subsidize any of these solar panels. It's actually the free

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Speaker 2: Right exactly. The reverse was true maybe ten or fifteen

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Speaker 3: But well, here's something ironic. Twenty years ago, when I

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Speaker 3: but Kentucky did not, and so I had to pay.

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Speaker 3: It raised the price of solar panels for people living

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Speaker 3: You could actually go the other way when you subsidize things,

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Speaker 3: and look at the cost of college now, because it's

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Speaker 3: subsidized by the government with Stan's a minute, which aren't

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Speaker 3: paid back the Colleges Bill in Bolden to build these

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Speaker 3: taj Mahal student centers and things that they would never

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Speaker 3: the price would be actually be lower.

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Speaker 2: Is your water self sustaining? To Thomas, Yes it is.

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Speaker 3: August is a difficult month for me because it gets

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Speaker 3: pretty dry in Kentucky. In August, I dug my own

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Speaker 3: well with my back ho and then I borrowed a jackhammer.

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Speaker 3: I hit some bedrock, and I borrowed jackhammer from one

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Speaker 3: And I got down in that hall with that jackhammer

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Speaker 3: deeper into the bedrock. And I said, never again. I mean,

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Speaker 3: my head is off to anybody who uses a jackhammer

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Speaker 3: for you know, more than let's say eight hours a

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Speaker 2: Thomas, We've talked about this before, but Thomas Massey co

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Speaker 2: authored to bill that got passed in November about releasing

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Speaker 2: the Epstein files, and it has been a slow compliance,

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Speaker 2: to say the least from the DOJ since that law

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Speaker 2: was signed into law by President Trump. Where are we

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Speaker 2: at now, Thomas, Well.

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Speaker 3: We've made some pretty good progress. I mean he's about

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Speaker 3: once a day a CEO or government official is resigning

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Speaker 3: around the globe.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: Some of them are in France and Great Britain, but

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Speaker 3: the CEO of Yatt or sorry, chairman of Hyatt Hotels

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Speaker 3: something that our commander in chief called a hoax. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: the Epstein files are not a hoax. He might have

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Speaker 3: been speaking about the Democrats' effort to weaponize these files

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Speaker 3: against him. But my co author and I his name's Rocanna,

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Speaker 3: and it's sure enough. He's on the other side of

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Speaker 3: the island. He hails from the left coast, California. But

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Speaker 3: we have labored to keep this from being political. It

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Speaker 3: shouldn't turn into a contest. You know, there were three

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Speaker 3: get the bipartisan vote that we got. This bill passed

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Speaker 3: four hundred and twenty seven to one in the House

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Speaker 3: the President signed it. We've got transparency to a degree,

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Speaker 3: but there needs to be more transparency. The files have

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Speaker 3: been over redacted, some files have not been released, but

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Speaker 3: even with what's there, it's obvious that Jeffrey Epstein in

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Speaker 3: fact had co conspirators. It wasn't just he and Maxwell

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Speaker 3: who should have been arrested and put in prison. There

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Speaker 3: John Luke Brenell from France, but there are other men

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Speaker 3: point they were considered to be co conspirators by the

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Speaker 3: FBI in a sex trafficking ring. One of those would

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Speaker 3: be a famous Ohioan named Leslie Wexner, who appears in

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Speaker 3: the files. His name appears thousands of times, and by

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Speaker 3: the way, appearing in the files is not an indictment

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Speaker 3: or even you know, evidence that you should be indicted.

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Speaker 3: I appear in the files at least a dozen times

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Speaker 3: files released. But he the one instance, and this was,

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Speaker 3: you know, we had a hearing with Pam Bondy. I'm

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Speaker 3: oversight of the DOJ and the FBI, and so by

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Speaker 3: virtue of serving on that committee, whenever Cash, Bettel or

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Speaker 3: I asked Pam Bondi about some of the reactions that

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Speaker 3: were troubling in one specific one with Leslie Wexner. Again

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Speaker 3: shows up thousands of times, as she pointed out, in

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Speaker 3: trafficking crime is the one time they redacted his name.

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Speaker 3: I was able to discover that by going to the

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Speaker 3: DOJ and looking at the looking underneath of the reactions,

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Speaker 3: and it allowed Epstein, unfortunately, to recommit crimes, sexual crimes

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're familiar with man named Peter

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Speaker 2: Shin or Nick Bryant there behind the Epstein Justice dot com.

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Speaker 2: I had Peter Shin on last night talking about specifically

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Speaker 2: Less Wexner and the fact that the Senate actually called

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Speaker 2: him and said, well, we'd like you to testify, and

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Speaker 2: they basically were forced instead of making Les Wexner come

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Speaker 2: to Washington, they were coming to Ohio to do that.

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Speaker 2: Have you heard anything about that.

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Speaker 3: I've never heard of such a thing. The version he

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Speaker 3: via zoom or something unless somebody's in prison, you know,

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Speaker 3: as was the case with Julane Maxwell recently in the

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Speaker 3: Oversight Committee, and she, by the way, plaid the fifth

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Speaker 3: I have never heard of that situation. Now, maybe he's

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Speaker 3: elderly and can't travel. I don't know what the reasoning

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I want to get into something with you,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know how to approach it, so I'll

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Speaker 2: just say it, Thomas, jump in whatever it is. This

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Speaker 2: primary battle that you're going to face in Kentucky for

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Speaker 2: the seat against a man named ed Gal Ryan Nutt

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Speaker 2: and he is President Trump's hand picked primary opponent because

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 3: Let me go on, Purshi say that something.

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Speaker 8: Man, Please say to me.

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Speaker 6: You let me hold on, let me hold on.

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Speaker 9: Hold omen.

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Speaker 6: It's a jumpy and my love, Yeah, that song, I

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Speaker 7: The most when yeah, that song, oh no, and when

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Speaker 8: It's a jumpy and let my love.

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Speaker 2: It was the beatles first number one in America and

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Speaker 2: Yep. And another one of those number ones that followed

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Speaker 11: Well yes today did you She's think you know?

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Speaker 5: Jim absolutely and this is a plaintive French love song,

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Speaker 1: If I can falling in love with like a river

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Speaker 2: Can't help falling in love? So love in the spotlight

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Beach Boys, Brian Wilson put this together unique

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 5: It's kind to toss away song, and it took years

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Speaker 5: for this to really catch on. Incredible three part vocal harmony,

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Speaker 5: and as you mentioned, Paul McCartney often calls this his

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Speaker 5: favorite song and reduced him. He said, the first time

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Speaker 5: you heard it, it reduced him to tears. And now

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Speaker 5: while it is a love song, it reflects a deeper,

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Speaker 5: spiritual and almost universal consciousness rather than just a single

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Speaker 5: love song. And the song we're talking about is the

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Speaker 5: Beach Boys, but Carl Wilson singing lead, and God only.

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Speaker 2: Knows to my Valentine Christ the two point zero.

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Speaker 13: I may not always love you, but lo there love you.

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Speaker 8: Every d.

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Speaker 1: I'll make you so sure about it.

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Speaker 13: God only knows what I believe with that give you

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Speaker 13: should have you leave me, you'll like to go. Believe me,

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Speaker 13: you will shore nothing to me?

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Speaker 1: So what good would let me do me?

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Speaker 13: God only knows what I believe without you. God only

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Speaker 13: knows what I believe that you. If you should happen me,

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Speaker 13: but I.

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Speaker 8: Believe me you will, good should nothing to me?

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Speaker 1: It's what good.

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Speaker 14: God don't knows what I think. God online knows what

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Speaker 14: I beave with.

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Speaker 1: John knows what I be with. God knows what I

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Speaker 1: be with.

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Speaker 9: Knows what I mean, generally knows what I means.

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Speaker 3: I.

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Speaker 8: Knows.

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Speaker 2: From the layered harmonies of the Beat Boys to the

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Speaker 2: incredible vocal performance by Bobby Hatfield, rock and roll archaeology

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Speaker 2: continues with love Jim Lebarbara talk about this last one?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 5: You know what, Kry Jeff. Both guys won the sing

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Speaker 5: lead on this song. Bobby had Bobby Hatfield won it,

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Speaker 5: and Bill Medley won it. So they did a toin

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Speaker 5: coss and Bobby Haffield won. Now, Bobby knew the song

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Speaker 5: because he was a big fan of Roy Hamilton and

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Speaker 5: Al Hibler. He knew the versions that they did this

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Speaker 5: song and this was a big hit. But Phil Spector,

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Speaker 5: to him, it was an album filler. As a matter

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Speaker 5: of fact, he didn't even produce this song. Phil Spector

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Speaker 5: in the studio would produced what he thought with the singles,

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Speaker 5: and then the filler said that somebody else could produce,

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Speaker 5: and in this case, Bill Medley had produced their early

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Speaker 5: records on another label like a Little Latin Loop de Loup,

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Speaker 5: so Bill produced. Bill Meley produced the record, although later

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Speaker 5: Phil Spector took credit for it. And this was the

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Speaker 5: B side because the E side was hung on you,

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Speaker 5: and Phil was not happy about this, Jock, He's.

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Speaker 4: Flipping them over.

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Speaker 5: But we did. And the famous climax of this song

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Speaker 5: is where Bobby sings that Hi, I need your love line,

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Speaker 5: which wasn't how the song was written. Bobby Hadfield did

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Speaker 5: a couple of takes of the song thing styles Roy Hamilton,

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Speaker 5: and they left and Bill Medie said he then reconsidered

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Speaker 5: what he did and he come back, and so he

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Speaker 5: later came back into the studio and on this track,

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Speaker 5: he said, can you do something? Can I do something else?

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Speaker 5: And they said okay Bill. Bill said all right, And

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Speaker 5: it was tough because there's a maximum of four tracks

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Speaker 5: to work with and you have to record over the

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Speaker 5: original take, and Medley accommodated him, and Hatfield delivered that

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Speaker 5: soaring vocal line and Medley said, I punched that in

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Speaker 5: and he left and then he came back and said Bill,

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Speaker 5: I can do it better, and Bobby Bobby and Bill

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Speaker 5: said Bobby, no, no, no, you can't send He laughed

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Speaker 5: and he thought, he told me, he says a big

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Speaker 5: part of that song is that that that PONSETI end

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Speaker 5: and Bill Medley played the worlds of piano on the song,

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Speaker 5: and later he said, if I knew that it was

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Speaker 5: going to be a big hit, I certainly would have

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Speaker 5: brought in a better piano player, and the song it

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Speaker 5: became a hit in nineteen sixty five and then again

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Speaker 5: with a Demi Moore Patrick Swayzey movie and Ghost came

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Speaker 5: back again one of the greatest love songs of all

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Speaker 5: time Bobby Hatfield and Unchain melody Whoo.

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Speaker 1: Mo O good more you touch.

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Speaker 8: Hello, Oh spa so slowly.

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Speaker 15: And time.

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Speaker 10: Can do so much?

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Speaker 8: All you still more.

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Speaker 10: Your love, need your love, y'all Speak your love to me,

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Speaker 10: No ne Ben Snow to the safe, to the same,

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Speaker 10: to the open arms of the sea, only re side.

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Speaker 10: Wait for me, Wait for me. I'll be coming home.

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Speaker 8: Way for me. Whom my.

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Speaker 3: Love, my co.

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Speaker 1: Acoler not time.

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Speaker 7: Time and time time.

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Speaker 8: Go so small?

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Speaker 1: Time are you.

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Speaker 12: Me?

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Speaker 2: Rock and Roll Archaeology is a production of the Saturday

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Speaker 2: Morning Edition on seven with WLW and under the Reagan

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Speaker 2: and Bush presidencies. She was right there in the heart

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Speaker 2: of it all. And as we approach our two hundred

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Speaker 2: and fiftieth birthday as a country, there are seemingly some

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Speaker 2: Democrat states that are trying to go the way of

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Speaker 2: the secessionists in eighteen sixty or maybe even worse. It's

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Speaker 2: been a long slog of the infiltration of communism, what

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Speaker 2: I call communism, and a lack of constitutional adherents. And

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Speaker 2: I believe our guest agrees with me to kind of

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Speaker 2: further define that. Johannah Newman, Welcome to the Nightcap. How

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Speaker 2: are you?

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Speaker 15: Thanks?

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Speaker 2: So are you seeing especially these Democrat states, especially in

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Speaker 2: relation to how they're treating federal law and federal law

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Speaker 2: enforcement like their irrelevant?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: And this is happening, you know. We've seen it in Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: We've seen it in California, in New York, in Illinois,

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Speaker 2: in these other Democrat dominated states, these one party states

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Speaker 2: where they're ignoring the Constitution, they're ignoring the supremacy clause,

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Speaker 2: and they're ignoring federal law. What is there? What is

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Speaker 2: their their the means to their what's the end? What

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Speaker 2: do they want to do? Johanna?

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Speaker 15: You know, I think there's no question they are openly

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Speaker 15: defying the federal government. These sanctuary states and cities are

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Speaker 15: saying we won't enforce immigration law. And I always feel

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Speaker 15: like saying, if you want to change the law, then

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Speaker 15: put down your bullhorn and call Congress, because Congress is

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Speaker 15: this is the law that Congress pass that's on the

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Speaker 15: books that ICE isn't forcing. And I noticed within the

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Speaker 15: last few days a number of top Democrats like Obama

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Speaker 15: and Clint Hillary Clinton have walked back and said things

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Speaker 15: like we went too far on immigration. So it tells

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Speaker 15: me that maybe public opinion is beginning to to reassert

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Speaker 15: some sanity.

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Speaker 4: But I.

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Speaker 15: Do share your concern that we are on the cusp

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Speaker 15: of eighteen sixty. Again, this is precisely what the Southern

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Speaker 15: states did and seceeding when Lincoln was elected. They said no,

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Speaker 15: we're not gonna We're not going to obey the federal law.

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Speaker 15: So and that you know, there are some das in

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Speaker 15: Phila and California who are considering criminal charges against ICE agents.

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Speaker 15: Illinois just passed a law letting citizens sue ICE agents.

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Speaker 15: Of course, the left is dosing them making and you know,

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Speaker 15: intruding in their enforcement of the law. So I think

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Speaker 15: it's pretty clear that there is defiance going on. I

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Speaker 15: hope it doesn't rise to the level of civil war.

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Speaker 2: Well, when we're talking, Johanna about the Constitution, these states

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Speaker 2: would claim the same thing that slave states claimed back

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Speaker 2: then that this is about the tenth Amendment and states rights.

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Speaker 2: What's our answer to that.

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Speaker 15: In fact, philadela and Minnesota has actually filed a tenth

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Speaker 15: Amendment lawsuit against the federal government over ice. I think

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Speaker 15: we stand on a tenth Amendment. This is enumerated in

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Speaker 15: the Constitution as a federal powner. And you know, I

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Speaker 15: don't see why we need to go beyond them.

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Speaker 2: Right again, I get you there. The other thing that

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Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about with you, particularly about the

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Speaker 2: Constitution and the canceling of our founders that we saw

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Speaker 2: for the last you know, really eight to nine years,

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Speaker 2: in particular, with the calling of our founders criminals and racists,

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Speaker 2: and the tearing down of statues, the defiling of even

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Speaker 2: Abraham Lincoln in our culture by these radical the radical

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Speaker 2: fringe left in this country. To me, this is like

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Speaker 2: part of a one hundred year plan that started way

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Speaker 2: back when and under the likes of Woodrow Wilson, to

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Speaker 2: eliminate our constitutional system and go to basic Marxism and

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Speaker 2: socialism and ultimately communism. Yes or no.

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Speaker 15: And I'm so glad you raised this because I see

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Speaker 15: signs of it all the time. The left trying to

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Speaker 15: erase are you could even see the whole immigration argument

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Speaker 15: is about sovereignty, and so are the Founders there? You're right,

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Speaker 15: they have been under attack for one hundred years. There

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Speaker 15: were these two famous historians, a husband and wife team

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Speaker 15: named Beard, who wrote in nineteen twenty seven that the

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Speaker 15: Founders were not interested in the liberty. That's not why

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Speaker 15: they rebelled against the king. They were interested an economic power,

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Speaker 15: and so they got just with that economic frame. And

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Speaker 15: then later in the century, of course, people tore down

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Speaker 15: the Founders as being racist or misogynists. You know, I

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Speaker 15: believe that the words Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration

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Speaker 15: of Independence are our greatest legacy. They are enlightenment and

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Speaker 15: Christian principles. That all are created equal, that all rights

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Speaker 15: come not from man and some senators might have you believe,

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Speaker 15: but from the Creator. And finally, that the government cannot

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Speaker 15: exist except by the consent of the governed. Those are

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Speaker 15: precious legacies we have from them and canceling them. You know,

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Speaker 15: I noticed the other day Jeff, I mean Jerry, so.

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Speaker 2: You can call you can call me either one, okay,

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Speaker 2: are you both? I am? I'm both.

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Speaker 15: I noticed the other day that we celebrated President's Day,

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Speaker 15: but in fact that used to be George Washington Day.

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Speaker 15: It used to be George Washington's birthday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I made the point of this, Johannah. There used

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Speaker 2: to be national holidays for both Abraham Lincoln and George Washington,

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Speaker 2: but they combine them into this, you know, general President's Day,

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Speaker 2: and it takes away the significance of our first our founding,

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Speaker 2: first president, our great leader, who was brave enough to

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Speaker 2: not only lead troops against the British and defeat the king,

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Speaker 2: the troops of King George, but also, you know, reluctantly

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Speaker 2: became the first president. He didn't really want that, but

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Speaker 2: there was no one else I mean in that way.

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Speaker 2: And this is not to take a politically partisan sider.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there've been other presidents who were almost George

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Speaker 2: Washington in my opinion, but no one, no one ever

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Speaker 2: is going to be compared favorably to George Washington so

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Speaker 2: far in our in our LINEAGEIP presidents. The only thing

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Speaker 2: that I would point to you right now, there is

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Speaker 2: no one else like Donald Trump as far as taking

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Speaker 2: the reigns of leadership in this country the way he has.

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Speaker 15: No And I think there will be a mighty fight

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Speaker 15: over this during on the celebration of our two hundred

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Speaker 15: and fiftieth birthday, because, as we mentioned before, half the

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Speaker 15: country or I don't know if they're half, do you

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Speaker 15: think they're really half? But a lot of left wing

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Speaker 15: opinion makers are sort of treating seventeen seventy six like

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Speaker 15: it's a crime scene and they're looking for six falls.

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Speaker 15: I saw a little story out of Nebraska, of all

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Speaker 15: places where a state there was an exhibit up on

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Speaker 15: the walls about the two hundred and fiftieth birthday about

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Speaker 15: the founders and some of the prominent people who came

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Speaker 15: after them, and a state legislator in Lincoln, Nebraska took

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Speaker 15: it upon herself to take the photos and the text

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Speaker 15: off the wall, and she of course caught on security

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Speaker 15: camera and she had the smirk on her face. So

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Speaker 15: and I think, and of course President Trump is planning

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Speaker 15: a huge He has a whole task force planning two

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Speaker 15: fifty there's going to be all the things he would imagine,

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Speaker 15: all ships and the celebrations at Philadelphia Hall, a ball

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Speaker 15: drop on Times Square. And he's also proposing an arch

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Speaker 15: like the archty trio from Paris for Washington, DC, because

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Speaker 15: of course he is in his soul, he is a builder.

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Speaker 15: But I think that there will be people celebrating this

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Speaker 15: martinous achievement. We are the oldest constitutional republic in the world,

667
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Speaker 15: and George Washington gentis defeat the British Army. He defeated

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Speaker 15: the strongest, biggest, mightiest military force in the world. And

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Speaker 15: there is There are a number of people, some of

670
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Speaker 15: the Founders included, who who attribute this to divine providence.

671
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Speaker 15: The gods were looking after.

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Speaker 2: Oh much in the way that Donald Trump, who's not

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Speaker 2: necessarily been known historically as a man of faith or

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Speaker 2: a very religious person, he even acknowledged that God saved

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Speaker 2: him for this moment on that stage in Butler, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: and the other times that the other side has tried

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Speaker 2: to either kinetically violently take him out, or kill him

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Speaker 2: or law fare him out of existence. Donald Trump is

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Speaker 2: rightly or wrongly, And I'm a firm believer. I'm a

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Speaker 2: Christian and I have faith in Jesus Christ. But I

681
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Speaker 2: believe that God has preserved Donald Trump for this moment

682
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Speaker 2: now because we need someone who is unafraid and who

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Speaker 2: will stand by the principles of our founders especially heading

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Speaker 2: towards two fifty.

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Speaker 15: I think you're absolutely right. I think he is, how

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Speaker 15: would you say it? The president we needed. And I

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Speaker 15: have written a new book called Trump's Superpower.

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Speaker 2: What's the title of the book again, I kind of got.

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Speaker 3: Lost Trump Superpower, Superpower, Okay.

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Speaker 15: It's a novel. I bring the Founding fathers down from

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Speaker 15: heaven and one Founding mother by the way, and they're

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Speaker 15: here for our two hundred and fiftieth birthday, and they

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Speaker 15: have marvelous encounters with twenty first century Americans. They Ben

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Speaker 15: Franklin is arrested for misgendering someone, you know, Alexander Hamilton

695
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Speaker 15: gets to dance at the White House with his main crush, Milania.

696
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Speaker 15: So they have these wonderful encounters, and they also have

697
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Speaker 15: a very serious discussion throughout the whole book about whether

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Speaker 15: this is the country they meant to leave us. And

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Speaker 15: the reason I call that Trump's Superpower is I believe

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Speaker 15: that President Trump understands that to make America great again,

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Speaker 15: he also has to rescue the Founders and restore the

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Speaker 15: Founding and that I think is why he's making such

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Speaker 15: a momentous celebration out of the two fifty. And I

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Speaker 15: noticed The New York Times had an article the other

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Speaker 15: day about complaining that Trump had the administration had asked

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Speaker 15: foreign embassies to fundraise in their countries of residents to

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Speaker 15: make sure the magi. The two fifty celebrations were big

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Speaker 15: and boisterous and you know, really over the top. And

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Speaker 15: so now apparently they're trying to outdo one another, which

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Speaker 15: country can put on the biggest birthday party for America.

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Speaker 15: But I think it's also trying to celebrate what this

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Speaker 15: country means to the world.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, you know. John Adams, speaking of the founders,

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Speaker 2: said that this anniversary of July fourth should be celebrated

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Speaker 2: with music, with great peasantry, with fireworks, all of the

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Speaker 2: things that we do, at least those of us who

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Speaker 2: who observe our nation's independence and the celebration that it

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Speaker 2: is and should be that we do on a regular basis.

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Speaker 2: But this is going to be like one hundred times that,

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Speaker 2: and it should.

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Speaker 3: Be, you know.

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Speaker 15: And Adams, I read that passage that he wrote, and

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Speaker 15: I read elsewhere that they didn't just celebrate on in

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Speaker 15: July of seventeen seventy six, they celebrated all year. That

725
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Speaker 15: it was so unbelievable that this little band of rebels

726
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Speaker 15: had defeated this mighty world power. There was a great

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Speaker 15: wellspring of celebration, and I think I think Donald Trump

728
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Speaker 15: wants to restore that to us, that it used to be.

729
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Speaker 15: The flag was a symbol of patriotism and pride, something

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Speaker 15: we all shared. When I was a little girl, my father,

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Speaker 15: who was the child of immigrants to this country, but

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Speaker 15: he was so proud to be an American that on

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Speaker 15: July one and my sister and I would sort of

734
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Speaker 15: cringe in the background, but he always walked up to

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Speaker 15: strangers and say happy Birthday, and most of them looked

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Speaker 15: at him askance. But it is our birthday and it

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Speaker 15: would be wonderful. It's something we could all celebrate.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why. I guess I was raised correctly,

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Speaker 2: but I remember a particular Fourth of July, and I

740
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Speaker 2: don't even remember where we were living at the time,

741
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Speaker 2: but my parents took us out to watch fireworks, and

742
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Speaker 2: no one told me that I was supposed to be reverent,

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Speaker 2: that it was a fantastic celebration, and that we were

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Speaker 2: in a special place. But I remember, just watching the

745
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 2: fireworks that night, tears came to my eyes. I'm ten

746
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Speaker 2: years old, and tears didn't into my eyes because I

747
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 2: was scared or I just felt this amazing wave of

748
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Speaker 2: patriotism come over me on that particular fourth of July

749
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Speaker 2: and it's stuck in my head ever since, and I

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Speaker 2: still have that same kind of fervor for this country.

751
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Speaker 2: And I believe it's the greatest experiment ever in world

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Speaker 2: history of human history.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 16: And I know I.

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Speaker 15: Wrote recently that I have a blog on sub stack

756
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Speaker 15: that's called make or Well fiction again, And I wrote

757
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 15: recently that what was really offensive about the Bad Bunny

758
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Speaker 15: performance at the Super Bowl halftime was not so much

759
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Speaker 15: the lyrics, which, if you read the English translation, very

760
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 15: very off colors, but what he did with the American flag,

761
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Speaker 15: because he made it. It was a backdrop behind him

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Speaker 15: of all the flags of the Americans from Canada to Argentina. Yes,

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Speaker 15: and it was sort of a way of saying, and

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Speaker 15: not to settle, really.

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Speaker 16: That that we're all America, dow, and I guess I

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Speaker 16: recoil at any effort to erase us.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: And it's you know what, Johanna, It's back to the

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Speaker 2: sovereignty issue. And if you don't have borders you don't

770
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Speaker 2: have a country, and if you don't have sovereignty, you

771
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Speaker 2: don't have what the founders and envisioned. Listen. I could

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Speaker 2: go on like this all night, but unfortunately our time's up.

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Speaker 2: But I thank you so much for yours tonight. Johanna

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Speaker 2: Newman the book Trump's Superpower. When is it out? Real quick?

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Speaker 15: It's out in May, but you can preorder it now

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Speaker 15: on Amazon.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you, dear, thank you, God bless tonight,

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Speaker 2: cap and there's more left on seven hunderd WLW. My

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00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: recent acquaintances, he's become kind of a telephone friend. We've

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Speaker 2: never met in person. I have a lot of those

781
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Speaker 2: of this business. It's weird, but he is a guy who,

782
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Speaker 2: as I mentioned before the break, helps out with booking

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Speaker 2: some of the very interesting guests you hear on the

784
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Speaker 2: program on a regular basis. And he has quite a

785
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Speaker 2: background in the broadcast business. So it's inside Baseball on

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Speaker 2: Broadcasting tonight and a little bit of time with our

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Speaker 2: friend Eric Peterson. Good evening, sir, how are you.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great, Garry. It's an honor to be on

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Speaker 4: your show.

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Speaker 5: My friend.

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Speaker 2: All right, So you and your wife have been vacationing

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Speaker 2: if you don't want to be docsed, I won't let

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Speaker 2: them know where you are Tucson.

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Speaker 4: So it's a working vacation, right, I understand.

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Speaker 12: In the field of booking guests, you still get calls

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Speaker 12: that like I did today at four o'clock in the

797
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Speaker 12: morning from Newsmax canceling a guest, or five forty five

798
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Speaker 12: in the morning on vacation to make sure.

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Speaker 4: A guest was ready to go.

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Speaker 12: So, yeah, it's a working vacation and a costly one

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Speaker 12: at that too, because we came here to Tucson in

802
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Speaker 12: order to get my son a new car since his

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Speaker 12: car died, and he is very excited to be the

804
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Speaker 12: owner of a beautiful twenty twenty five the Lantra.

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Speaker 2: So you've got to go to Tucson, Arizona to buy

806
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Speaker 2: a new car from California.

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Speaker 12: Well, that's this is where my son lives actually, and

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00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 12: actually we actually have family that live literally an hour

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00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 12: away in a little military town called Sierra Vista. So

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Speaker 12: we spent a few days there as well, and then

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Speaker 12: we trekked back up to Tucson, and we've spent the

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Speaker 12: last three days with my son, which also included going

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Speaker 12: to various car lots and finding a car, which actually

814
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Speaker 12: turned out to be a very quick process.

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Speaker 4: He really pinned it down to the.

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Speaker 12: One car he really wanted and it really was only

817
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Speaker 12: about a half.

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Speaker 4: Hour an hour of our time. Yeah, and we got

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Speaker 4: an amazing deal. So he's very happy. I'm happy, and

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Speaker 4: that's what it's all about. Garrett.

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Speaker 2: Well, I know that it's a working vacation because I

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Speaker 2: myself have jangled your chain several times over the last

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Speaker 2: few days about this about about booking guests. Yet you

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Speaker 2: know what the guests are fantastic. Yesterday I'm trying to

825
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Speaker 2: remember who we had yesterday, Casey Fleming and also and

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Speaker 2: Peachin from Epstein Justice and Casey Fleming the Black Ops

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Speaker 2: Special Partners. Those were your guys that you book. They

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Speaker 2: have books that they're hawking, or they have a show,

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Speaker 2: or they have something very very important. They deem is

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Speaker 2: very very important, and I think a lot of other

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Speaker 2: people do, like Epstein Justice, and the only way that

832
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Speaker 2: they can have a little bit extra airtime is guys

833
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Speaker 2: like you booking them on shows like mine all over

834
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Speaker 2: the country.

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Speaker 4: So yes, it's a pleasure to do.

836
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Speaker 2: So well, we appreciate it. I know the audience appreciates it,

837
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Speaker 2: and you always bring me something that's podcast worthy, So

838
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 2: that's important as well, especially in this day and age.

839
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Speaker 2: So you're in Tucson, Arizona, and that has been kind

840
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: of the center of the universe for the past sixteen

841
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Speaker 2: days with the disappearance of Nancy Gunthrie, their home invasion,

842
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: god bad or kidnapping or whatever this is. We still

843
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Speaker 2: don't know what it is and if Nancy's still alive.

844
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Speaker 2: But you say, you're you're fairly close to where all

845
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Speaker 2: of that happened, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The place that we're staying, I think we're literally four.

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Speaker 12: Miles five miles away from where she's located, and uh,

848
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Speaker 12: well where her house is located.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can't you can't even drive up there.

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Speaker 12: They finally have kind of sealed off because I guess

851
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Speaker 12: we're two miles down the road. They were looking at

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Speaker 12: a at a house. So if you go up there

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Speaker 12: now you you wouldn't get a chance to get to

854
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Speaker 12: the area. But it's just to me, how were all

855
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Speaker 12: the people allowed to go there in the beginning when

856
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Speaker 12: it was the most important time of the investigation, and apparently,

857
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Speaker 12: you know, people were just showing up there. They were

858
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Speaker 12: leaving flowers. Obviously we're all concerned about me.

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Speaker 2: They've been delivering pizzas to her house for the media

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Speaker 2: or law enforcement or whatever that was working.

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Speaker 12: Right, Gary, I'm like, well, I hope I pray to

862
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Speaker 12: God that they financy.

863
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Speaker 4: But let's be honest, you know, I.

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Speaker 12: Think most people think at this particular time, you know,

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Speaker 12: we're just hoping to find whoever did this, because basically

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Speaker 12: we're probably at a point where.

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Speaker 2: This is not this is not a rescue. This is

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Speaker 2: not a rescue. This is a recovery, is what we're saying,

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Speaker 2: basically exactly. And you know what you were talking about

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Speaker 2: being so close, but you haven't found time or really

871
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Speaker 2: wanted to track up there. What is the fascination people

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Speaker 2: have unless you're in media or and you have to

873
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Speaker 2: cover the case, as god, we've had around the clock

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Speaker 2: coverage now for the last couple of weeks, or your

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Speaker 2: law enforcement and it is your job to find out

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Speaker 2: exactly what happened. Why else would you go up there

877
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 2: if you're just a citizen, I mean, stay out of

878
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: the way. People have a morbid fascination with this, and

879
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 2: it becomes some kind of a weird tourist attraction. For

880
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 2: some reason. And you were telling me that where you

881
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: live in California, you're not far from where the Manson

882
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: ranch was, all right.

883
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 12: The old Spawn ranch, which is no longer. It's just

884
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 12: overgrown trees and various areas. But you could still trek

885
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 12: down if you're perverse enough to want to do it,

886
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 12: and people down and get to the caves and take

887
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 12: pictures there where there's the famous picture of the Manson

888
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 12: family underneath this cave and.

889
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 4: People, do you know what it is like, Garry.

890
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 12: It's like when we were driving here from Los Angeles

891
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 12: and to get to Tucson, and it was a seven

892
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 12: to eight hour drive if you had all the stops.

893
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 12: But we came to a point where the traffic had

894
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 12: just slowed down right, and I'm like, what's going on.

895
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 12: You're on a two lane highway coming all the way

896
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 12: into Arizona before Phoenix and just people looking at this

897
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 12: car accident to the left, and it was just a

898
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 12: massive car accident, but people wanted to look over and see,

899
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 12: you know, the damage, And I'm like, I don't know

900
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 12: why people are perverse, like let's keep moving, you know,

901
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 12: unless you're, as you said, part of a recovery team,

902
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 12: a medical team, FBI or police trying to clear the

903
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 12: scene and try to hopefully find survivors.

904
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 4: Why do you want to be part of that? Because

905
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 4: people just want to know, like they want to be

906
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 4: somewhere where.

907
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 12: Something's happening, and it's just a strange part of humanity

908
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 12: and it just makes you shake your head, like, really,

909
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 12: so I have to wait now to get to my destination.

910
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 4: And lose fifty to twenty minutes because you look, you lose.

911
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 12: Want to look over the left to see the and

912
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 12: it was a Toyota prius literally turn over.

913
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 2: Oh man. I hope that person was okay, but I

914
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 2: highly doubt that they escaped without some kind of major

915
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 2: injury at the very at the very least.

916
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 4: As of them getting out of that accident were slimming on.

917
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: It was bad.

918
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 4: It was really bad. And you don't mind that area.

919
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 4: That's that's where those people, the police that were over there.

920
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 4: Thank god I wasn't driving on that side of the

921
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 4: because you know, but that down lose. What do we say,

922
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 4: you're the lucky lose, the luky lowse No.

923
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 2: The fact of the matter is that some people have

924
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: a morbid fascination with death and with anything that, you know,

925
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 2: carnage in general. But they also need a life. A

926
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 2: lot of people are still searching for something to make

927
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 2: their life meaningful, and it's sad that they have to

928
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 2: go there to find it or think they can find it,

929
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 2: which they never will. Uh So let's switch gears here

930
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 2: and let's talk about your time in this business on

931
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 2: the radio and in TV. How long did you work?

932
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: You worked for ESPN and Fox Sports or tell me

933
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 2: you did well?

934
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 4: Started off?

935
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, I started off in Bristol, Connecticut. It was an

936
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 12: part of an internship and I worked at ESPN Radio

937
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 12: under the guidance of two very popular people in the

938
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 12: radio business, one Land Winer and the other one Bill Rodman,

939
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 12: who both made their careers starting out at a sports

940
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 12: station in New York called WFAN.

941
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 17: And I got hired there and started off just like

942
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 17: everyone else starts off cutting tape, you know, cutting tape,

943
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 17: working in the back room, earning my stripes for the

944
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 17: fifteen hours I was earning it while working full time

945
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 17: and also finishing up my education.

946
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 4: So I guess I did a good enough job where

947
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 4: they wanted to promote me, but then they questioned why.

948
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 12: I worked another job I was working at stopping Shop

949
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 12: overnights at the time, and they're like, why are you

950
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 12: working at stop and Shop? Well, because they pay me

951
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 12: quite a lot more than you're paying me right now,

952
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 12: and they got health benefits. And I just remember Bill

953
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 12: Rodman when I told him how much I was making

954
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 12: there and he's like really, They said, yeah, really.

955
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 18: So you know, maybe you want to hire me full

956
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 18: time and give me some benefits, and you know, I'll

957
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 18: make that make the decision a lot easier for me,

958
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 18: and they did, and I guess I progressed to the

959
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 18: point of doing weekend shows with the likes of.

960
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 12: Mel Kiper and Andy Poland to doing shows with one

961
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 12: of my favorites, the Zaban And then I worked on

962
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 12: a little show with Dan Levettard.

963
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 4: Was a weekend show at the time, and I just

964
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 4: got some experience.

965
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 12: And then I was booking guests on a afternoon show

966
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 12: which wasn't affiliated on many places quite yet.

967
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 4: It was the expansion.

968
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 12: I was literally at ESPN Radio when they were expanding

969
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 12: to a twenty four to seven outlet, and then I

970
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 12: got on the afternoon shows Game Day with Mark Gray,

971
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 12: and I started putting on the big guests on the

972
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 12: afternoon show one maybe twenty to thirty affiliates at the time,

973
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 12: and I wasn't making other people too happy that these

974
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 12: big guests were being on smaller affiliates.

975
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 4: So basically I got promoted to another.

976
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 12: Show that was just starting off, which was a show

977
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 12: called Mike and Mike.

978
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 4: In the Morning.

979
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: Oh no, kidd, I have no idea. Yeah, Golick and Greenberg.

980
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 12: Yeh, So I was their booker. I actually I might

981
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 12: have actually had the best gig out of all of

982
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 12: them there because I literally was coming in at eight

983
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 12: o'clock in the morning as their show was winding up,

984
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 12: and then I was there on a regular like nine

985
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 12: to five, nine to fourth kind of schedule where I

986
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 12: was booking guests. It's so forth, I mean, those guys

987
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 12: have to be up at the crack of dawn and

988
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 12: p Tennessini Justin Craig great people that I learned quite

989
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 12: a bit from, and you know, I think very fondly

990
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 12: in the business, and I believe Justin Craig now is

991
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 12: pretty much running ESPN Radio. So yeah, it was fun

992
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 12: to be part of that team because there were so

993
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 12: many people that just busted there, you know what, Gary

994
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 12: just to make that fly to be successful and making

995
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 12: it twenty four to seven.

996
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 4: So there were some really, really great people.

997
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 12: There, definitely that I will always cherish working with.

998
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 4: But I wasn't there with Mike and Mike very long.

999
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 12: I had an offer come in from Fox Sports Radio,

1000
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 12: which was also considering launching twenty four to seven and

1001
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 12: getting into the sports radio game.

1002
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 4: And I had helped somebody that came in a t.

1003
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 12: ESPN radio when she was getting her start trying to

1004
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 12: get hired at ESPN, and she remembered me, and then

1005
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 12: when she got hired by a Fox Sports radio, which

1006
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 12: was also being supported by iHeart, she thought of me.

1007
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 12: And I got to talk to Tom Lee, and let's

1008
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 12: just say they offered me quite.

1009
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 4: A bit of money. And I'd never been to Los Angeles, California.

1010
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 4: I was thirty years old at the time, and I

1011
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, I guess I'm gonna have to take

1012
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 4: this offer. And I asked Lan Wyner.

1013
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 12: Hoping he would match it, and Len, who had also

1014
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,719
Speaker 12: lived out in California for a while, told me, looked

1015
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 12: up at me and goes, Eric, let me tell you

1016
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 12: Sherman Oaks is a great place to live.

1017
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 2: So in other words, we don't have anymore. We don't

1018
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 2: have any more money for you. You're going to California.

1019
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, No, he couldn't match the offer. And then

1020
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 4: he was like it was funny.

1021
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 12: Len was like, do you think he could just kind

1022
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 12: of work at least two more weeks?

1023
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 5: You know?

1024
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 4: And I was like, Olen, yeah, absolutely, you know.

1025
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 12: But then Lenn didn't even know the rules that that

1026
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 12: word got around quickly, and then the security guys came

1027
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 12: down and told me that I need to sack all

1028
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 12: my stuff and had to be taken out, escorted out

1029
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:56,759
Speaker 12: the door of Bristol.

1030
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 2: We you know, the odds. The odd thing about your

1031
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 2: story working in sports radio, Eric, is that in our

1032
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 2: little cluster here in Cincinnati for iHeartMedia, we have ESPN

1033
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty and Fox Sports thirteen sixty and one of

1034
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 2: our regular guests, in fact, the guest that follows you

1035
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 2: tonight is on every Sunday morning on Fox Sports thirteen

1036
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 2: sixty on the Fox Radio Network. His name is Andy Furman,

1037
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 2: and you know the fur Ball a little bit.

1038
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: I do know.

1039
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 12: Furman an original, a true original, big fan of Andy's work,

1040
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 12: got to sit in there on the weekend shows when

1041
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 12: he was filling in and.

1042
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,600
Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember who he did it with. But

1043
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 4: I used to work weekends.

1044
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 12: My first gig at Fox Sports Radio, which we're going

1045
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 12: back now the two thousand was working weekends, so I

1046
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:49,919
Speaker 12: didn't get Monday through Friday.

1047
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 4: But it was great.

1048
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 12: I probably had more fun working on the Saturday Sunday shows.

1049
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 12: And we had huge names Gary Jeff Walker, We had

1050
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 12: Jim Lampley, who as well as a Hall of Famer

1051
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 12: in many different categories. We also had a young man

1052
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 12: by the name of Chris Rose, who I became friends

1053
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 12: with and think fondly of. Wherever he goes, he always

1054
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 12: brings a solid effort. And one of my favorite people

1055
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 12: in the business Mike Lamb, who we used to have

1056
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 12: so much fun on Saturdays. It was like we were

1057
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 12: getting paid for tom foolery and fun, and it was

1058
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 12: like you didn't even have a job. It was a

1059
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 12: pure pleasure to go in on Saturdays and Sundays to

1060
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:36,799
Speaker 12: do shows.

1061
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 4: And I also with an excellent producer.

1062
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 12: He took Saturdays, I took Sundays, so I had the NFL,

1063
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:46,759
Speaker 12: he had college football.

1064
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 4: We worked together. We figured out how to resource some of.

1065
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 12: The grand money we were getting from Fox to put

1066
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 12: some of the biggest names on weekend shows that were anywhere.

1067
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 12: Also included eventually Randy Moss and Roy Harrison and Rodney Harrison.

1068
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:08,440
Speaker 4: If you ever asked Rodney.

1069
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 12: Harrison how he got started in the business, I'm kind

1070
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 12: of proud to smile and say that he'll tell you,

1071
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 12: well this, Eric Peterson called me and started me out

1072
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 12: doing some.

1073
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 4: Radio on Fox Sports.

1074
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 12: So those were some of the names that we were dealing.

1075
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 12: We were setting we were setting standard. In fact, ESPN

1076
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 12: was calling us when I got promoted to doing the

1077
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 12: weekday shows with Chris Myers. Uh the drive on Fox. Eric,

1078
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 12: you're coming in here, and I got Brian Cox here

1079
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 12: and uh, let's let's just get some ice key. Here's

1080
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 12: my Starbucks card, get yourself one, and uh we'll talk

1081
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 12: it up now, you know.

1082
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 4: And we had so.

1083
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 12: Much fun money. Yeah, Chris, Chris is one, you know,

1084
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 12: he's one of the hardest working guys in the profession.

1085
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 12: I will say that he used to fly in from

1086
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 12: like day, we used to go to Daytona.

1087
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 4: That was a lot of fun.

1088
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 12: I'm not a big NASCAR fan, but my boss at

1089
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 12: the time, Andrew Ashwood, he took over for Tom Lee,

1090
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 12: both two of the most fascinating people, two of the

1091
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 12: best people you could ever have. His bosses, Tom Lee

1092
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 12: and Andrew Ashwood. I was blessed with and Unfortunately Andrew

1093
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 12: left Dessert's way too soon due to cancer, but he

1094
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 12: provided me some of the greatest experiences of my sporting

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01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 12: life by allowing me to be at events, including Gary

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01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 12: Jeff Walker giving me his season ticket for a Monday

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Speaker 12: night matchup with my Minnesota Vikings in Green Bay Packers

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01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 12: at lambeau Field, and he flew me in we were

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01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 12: giving the US Open tennis tournament. He flew me intot.

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01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 12: I went to Chicago Hair Airport and I don't know

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01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 12: how we landed at the small airport. I think it

1102
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 12: was Oscosh know where in Wisconsin, but I looked around

1103
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 12: and realized I'd never been in Wisconsin. It was a small,

1104
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 12: beautiful place, but we got to see a Lambeufield Monday night.

1105
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 12: These are some of the things that Andrew Ashwood did

1106
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 12: at his own cost for people that he cared about.

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01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 12: He cared about so many different people and was by

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01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 12: far one of the coolest bosses. But going to the

1109
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 12: Daytona five hundred and seeing Chris Myers at the Hollywood Hotel.

1110
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 4: I had pictures and having me sit there at.

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01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 12: The desk and then seeing the event and seeing how

1112
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 12: he prepped doing it with Jeff Hammond. Those NASCAR guys

1113
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 12: were always the coolest guys. Larry Mcreynold's, Jeff Hammond, they

1114
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 12: just were the coolest guys to work with.

1115
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,560
Speaker 4: And we used to got a lot of the big drivers.

1116
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 12: At the time too, and Chris was a conduit to that.

1117
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 12: So working on the Drive on Fox was a pure pleasure.

1118
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 12: Lasted for about ten years. We got some of the

1119
01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 12: biggest names. We had Randy Moss as a regular on there,

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01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 12: which ESPN was calling me for sound bites because it

1121
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 12: was the year that Randy Moss was with the Oakland

1122
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 12: Raiders and every time Randy talked, he would say something

1123
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 12: about the Raiders that was becoming newsworthy.

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01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 4: Uh So ESPN would be.

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01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 12: Like, Hey, Eric, do you think you can send us

1126
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 12: the Randy Moss as long as you put.

1127
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 2: And now Randy Moss is a TV start.

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Speaker 12: Look at that, right, And God blessed Randy Moss too,

1129
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 12: because I know he's battled with cancer, and you know

1130
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,600
Speaker 12: anyone that battles with cancer and you, and I know

1131
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 12: that very well, Gary, because we both have magnificent wives

1132
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 12: who are warriors and have battled a lot.

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01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 2: We sure do. That's another thing we have in common

1134
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 2: besides this business. And we could, we could go on

1135
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 2: a lot longer, but I got to cut it off, Eric,

1136
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 2: which is not the same as what Lorena Bobb has said.

1137
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 2: It's different. But I'm gonna go and let you enjoy

1138
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 2: the rest of your working vacation and we'll we'll talk soon.

1139
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 2: I know we will because I always need interesting guests.

1140
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 4: We need to get into some great stories. But anytime

1141
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 4: you need me, I'm always there for you.

1142
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 2: Money all right, thank you, Eric Peterson, our special guest

1143
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 2: booker and our guest tonight, our special guest tonight. The

1144
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 2: fur ball is coming right up on this cap. And

1145
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 2: for that we found the highlights. The cherry on the

1146
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 2: cake of my show. The guy that I look to

1147
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 2: not only for wisdom and snappy banner, but also every

1148
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 2: once in a while I like to surprise him with something. Andy.

1149
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know, if you were just listening,

1150
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 2: but I had somebody on that you know, right before

1151
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 2: this half hour segment.

1152
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 4: Really you want to guess you know.

1153
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 19: Let me just say one thing. You kind of make

1154
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 19: it such a nice intro with the cherry on the top.

1155
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 19: Let me just say something. They don't do that to

1156
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 19: the person who finishes last in the Kentucky Derby of

1157
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 19: the course of marathon, and I'm last on your show.

1158
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 19: So I don't know the correlation.

1159
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:08,560
Speaker 1: There, saving.

1160
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 2: Andy, You never heard the expression saving the best for last.

1161
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 19: They'll do that as Kentucky Derby.

1162
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 2: Well, I do it on my I do it on

1163
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 2: my dinner plate. I eat all the stuff that's just

1164
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 2: there for sustenance. But you know, the main entrede, the

1165
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 2: thing that I really am interested in cutting into and

1166
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 2: masticating over. I saved that for the very last bite.

1167
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 2: So you are the last bite. You were. You were

1168
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 2: something that I've been I've been waiting, I've been saving,

1169
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 2: savoring your conversation.

1170
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 19: I'm waiting now I'm sitting Really, I want to know

1171
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 19: what the surprise is.

1172
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 2: Well, it's the surprise is, and it's not that big

1173
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 2: a surprise. It's a guy that you worked with when

1174
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 2: you maybe first started at Fox Sports Radio. Eric Peterson

1175
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 2: was just on and it had lots of great Andy

1176
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 2: Furman stories, but he said he couldn't tell any of

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Speaker 2: them on the air.

1178
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,719
Speaker 19: So, oh well, why is that when people ask about

1179
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 19: Andy from the story as they say that they're all

1180
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 19: like X rated. I don't get it. No, I'm not

1181
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 19: that silky. I'm really not.

1182
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 2: No, he didn't say X rayed. He just said he

1183
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 2: couldn't tell any of them on the air. Because you

1184
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 2: happen to be a very litigious person. And if he

1185
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 2: defamed you in some way, or you thought he'd defamed you,

1186
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 2: you'll probably bring in a lawsuit. You'd probably have to

1187
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 2: have a lawyer go to California and serve him with papers.

1188
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 19: I was sure I would, you know, want on my

1189
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 19: speed dog. All right to Bill Cunningham, No.

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01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 2: Doubt does still still handle those kind of cases.

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01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:36,759
Speaker 19: He would do it for me. You know, he closed

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01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 19: my first house, my first home when I bought years

1193
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 19: ago with my wife. I had no idea what to

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01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 19: do at a home.

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01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 5: He does.

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01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 19: Don't worry, I'll take care of But he came over

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01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 19: the house, he did the closing for us. He was

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01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 19: the best.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's wonderful. And he you know, it's seventy eight.

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01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 2: It's a little bit too he's a little bit too

1201
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 2: old to be chasing ambulances still, but I would imagine

1202
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 2: he probably it is young.

1203
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 19: Are you ready? I got some material for you. I

1204
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 19: actually prepare for your show. And you know, I'm watching

1205
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 19: the Olympics, and I really do love the Olympics.

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01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 4: I love the events.

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01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 19: I see what's going on to shame that the US

1208
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 19: of A is like really being killed by Norway.

1209
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 4: Norway is like bombarding them with medals.

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01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 19: I mean the US of A is I tied the third,

1211
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 19: I believe with Italy. So I mean, maybe we're not

1212
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 19: just they're winners.

1213
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 2: They're winter sports, you know, and the real story here.

1214
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 19: You know, we have a big population base here, the

1215
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 19: real I think people is helpful and not ready to

1216
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 19: dedicate themselves to go out there in practice. Maybe I

1217
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 19: just don't know.

1218
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 2: Well, the Olympics, the fixed should be in for Italy

1219
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 2: since they're being held in Milan, I mean, shouldn't they.

1220
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 2: I mean Italy should be leading the way. Not normal.

1221
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 19: Look, I mean I'm looking at the metal standings and

1222
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 19: the US off as type the third. But Canada, you

1223
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 19: would be Canada would do well and then win. The

1224
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 19: games are like seventeenth with medals. So I mean, if

1225
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 19: everything is kind of backwards is. Switzerland's doing very well,

1226
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 19: so the smaller populated countries maybe it needs more of

1227
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 19: them to win it a little bit metal than people.

1228
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 19: And the youngsters in the US of A they'd rather

1229
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 19: get an il money in college. I don't know. Well,

1230
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 19: I can't answer that, but it certainly it puts a

1231
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 19: cloud over the picture.

1232
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: Canada is a large land mass, but it's.

1233
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 19: Not it's the fifty first day.

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01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 2: What do you mean it's not. It's not a heavily

1235
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,719
Speaker 2: populated place. I mean there's what about thirty million people

1236
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 2: in Canada and all that space.

1237
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 19: Well, there's a little less up because my wife is

1238
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,680
Speaker 19: from Canadas. He's here with her family. So yeah, your

1239
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:25,719
Speaker 19: wife Canadian, isn't isn't your wife's birthday right.

1240
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 2: Around the corner Thursday? Yes, you know what we need

1241
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 2: to say happy this year? You want to? You want

1242
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 2: to because I'm sure she stays up for these these broadcasts.

1243
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 2: Would you like to join me in singing Happy birthday

1244
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 2: to Wendy?

1245
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 4: No?

1246
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 19: No, no, you know lately that for your lady friend

1247
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:41,759
Speaker 19: on Saturday morning.

1248
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 2: She'll do that for Lynette.

1249
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 3: Okay, Lynette will do it.

1250
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 19: Hey, I got this Olympic story which really is kind

1251
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 19: of a cute. See it really is, all right, have

1252
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 19: you heard of Rich rich Roonan. Rich Rudan is a

1253
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 19: fifty four year old Olympic star. He's an attorney out

1254
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 19: of Minnesota. He's the oldest olympian for the USFA. He's

1255
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 19: on the curling team and get squat. He cooks the

1256
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 19: players one omelets before the important matches. He grew steaks

1257
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 19: after the big wins. He handles the early when in

1258
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 19: grocery shopping so that everybody else could sleep in. He

1259
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 19: cholpus them around at a rental minivan. He even pass

1260
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 19: some of their flights to and from Diamond, pays for

1261
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 19: their hotel rooms. Okay, so this is what this guy

1262
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 19: does and he's fifty four. A tremendous story. So the

1263
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 19: other day on CNN they interviewed the guy and I'll say, wow,

1264
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 19: I want to see who this guy is. How did

1265
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 19: he get involved with with curling at fifty four years

1266
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 19: of age? So they're asking him political questions. They baited

1267
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 19: him to media, actually baited this guy. I played his

1268
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 19: sound Sunday morning on Fox Sports Radio A serious X

1269
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 19: in eighty three, thirteen sixty AM on Sunday. But I

1270
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 19: played it, and I'm questioning my partner, Bucky Brooks say, say,

1271
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 19: I'm not so certain that's the right question to ask.

1272
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 19: I understand athletes use that stage to kind of spew

1273
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 19: their interest. Lebron James has done it for years. I

1274
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 19: don't really have a problem with that because you could

1275
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 19: do some good. I'm reaching a lot of people doing that.

1276
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 19: But for the media to eight these guys on what

1277
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 19: the country is, what the country stands for? Talk about

1278
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 19: your background, and I love to find out how you

1279
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 19: got involve with curling, which is not really on the

1280
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 19: top ten list of American favorite sports.

1281
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 2: Really, Andy, you and I have talked about this. I

1282
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 2: think we talked about it last week. There's absolutely zero

1283
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 2: reason that athletes should be asked by the media anything

1284
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:24,919
Speaker 2: political or anything.

1285
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 19: Only the US athletes are as though, I know exactly.

1286
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 2: And it's all because of the get Trump syndrome that

1287
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 2: exists in the media. That's all it's about. It's all

1288
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 2: about Donald Trump. Yes it is, Andy, it's all about President.

1289
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 19: Maybe it is, maybe it's not. I don't like it.

1290
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 19: I think it's ridiculous. I want to know a little

1291
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 19: bit about this background at fifty four years of age.

1292
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 19: How did you even want to try out for the Olympic? That?

1293
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 19: Those are the things I think the general public really

1294
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 19: wants to hear, don't you think?

1295
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 2: Well, I think that curling is a sport that women

1296
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 2: should be more proficient. Ad since it involves a broom, don't.

1297
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 19: You had to set the stream up? And that's what

1298
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 19: we've got to move on from that? Really?

1299
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:03,600
Speaker 4: All right?

1300
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 19: The big story in our town right now, as far

1301
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 19: as sports are concerned, not UC, non Zavier, not ANKU,

1302
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:14,839
Speaker 19: not Thomas Moore, Mount Saint Joe, Miami of Ohio, Miami University,

1303
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:19,520
Speaker 19: not Miami of Ohio. But every publication has Miami parenthesis Ohio.

1304
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,799
Speaker 19: This University of Miami's in Florida and Coral Gables. Miami

1305
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 19: University is in Oxford, Ohio.

1306
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 4: I agree.

1307
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 2: I talked about this with Wildman last night, and he

1308
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 2: is you know what, You share an opinion with wild Man.

1309
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 2: You think it's ridiculous that they call it Miami of Ohio,

1310
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 2: and you share an opinion with me because I do too.

1311
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 2: There's a reason they give.

1312
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 19: That's what they call it. I mean, even I'm going

1313
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 19: way back when when Wayne Embry played for Miami of Ohio,

1314
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 19: and then you went introduce him in the starting lineups

1315
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 19: and just starting from your starting contentus six foot eight

1316
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 19: from Miami of Ohio, Wayne Embry. Okay, so that's what

1317
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 19: they did. It's to be hard to change that. But

1318
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 19: this team in basketball is twenty five and oh that

1319
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 19: the only unbeaten team in Division one basketball in the

1320
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 19: college ranks. Here's my question. They play in the Mid

1321
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 19: American Conference, the rankly now twenty second in the country,

1322
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 19: and that conference only takes one t to the NTAA tournament.

1323
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 19: Should they lose in that tournament, the conference tournament, do

1324
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 19: they still go or will they take two teams? That's

1325
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 19: what makes a question.

1326
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 2: Oh, they they gotcha, They've got you know, any andy,

1327
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 2: They've got to win out. They've got to win the

1328
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 2: tournament because they're they are all these power conferences are

1329
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 2: going to get you know, five six seventies teams in there,

1330
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 2: you know, and you know UC is not gonna go

1331
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 2: unless they win their tournament. And and how how big

1332
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 2: a how big a shot is that U see winning

1333
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 2: the Big twelve tournament.

1334
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 19: Not Xavier, I'm starting for you see the next game.

1335
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 2: Xavier is not going unless they win their tournament. Uh so.

1336
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 2: I mean, but in the SEC, you know, Vanderbilt's already

1337
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 2: in and and they've not completed their season. They're twenty

1338
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 2: one and four. Kentucky will probably get in unless.

1339
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,879
Speaker 3: They really did Florida.

1340
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 19: If you look at the rankings this week, I think

1341
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,719
Speaker 19: Kentucky was something like twenty second and I was twenty third.

1342
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 19: And you know, Miami's run on their heels. I really

1343
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 19: have me, I don't you know. I just think Miami

1344
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 19: finishes a twenty seven twenty eight O and they lose

1345
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 19: in the first round of the tournament. I think that's

1346
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 19: a major question. If they get to the finals and lose,

1347
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 19: I still think they go. Maybe the conference will take

1348
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 19: two teams. Maybe they will take two, and they'll look

1349
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 19: at another minor I call them minor conferences, a lesser conference,

1350
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 19: maybe like like the Mountain West, and I'll take maybe one.

1351
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 19: Maybe they normally would take two if they have two

1352
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 19: good records. I don't know. I don't know what they

1353
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 19: would do. I really don't know.

1354
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:45,879
Speaker 2: Well, Kentucky, by the way, by the way, Andy, Kentucky

1355
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 2: was twenty fifth before they lost to Florida. They dropped

1356
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 2: out of the top twenty five.

1357
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 4: So they did.

1358
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 2: So they let Kentucky into the NCAA tournament and they

1359
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 2: refuse Miami, and Miami's ranked in Kentucky's not how about

1360
01:26:58,680 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 2: that for.

1361
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:02,759
Speaker 19: Anything, because basically it goes I think a strength of schedule.

1362
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 19: Obviously Miami has not played anybody, and of strength that's

1363
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 19: not that full as the schedule they give us, schedule

1364
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 19: they play, you know, what could you do? So I

1365
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 19: think this is a big story coming down the stretch.

1366
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 19: And I think that some of those people who do

1367
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,639
Speaker 19: the voting and do the selection committee people they wouldn't

1368
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 19: mind seeing Miami lose prior to the tournament. Well you

1369
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 19: really wouldn't, No, his life a lot easier for them,

1370
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 19: don't you think.

1371
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Andy, you talked about Miami's strength of schedule.

1372
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 2: There are plenty of teams in the big conferences who

1373
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 2: had their record with teams from lesser conferences. But you

1374
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 2: didn't see any of them calling Miami and saying after

1375
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 2: Miami's you know season last year, they had a good

1376
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:51,759
Speaker 2: season last year. You didn't see any of those teams

1377
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 2: from the power conferences looking to schedule non conference game

1378
01:27:55,760 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 2: with Miami, did you, Because they're afraid teral that.

1379
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 19: He works now.

1380
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 2: A team.

1381
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 19: You know what it is with the way the Sealer

1382
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 19: chief Vid he is right now with the different levels

1383
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 19: of competition, he really can't afford to play the lesser

1384
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 19: school course would hurt you down the stretch for voting

1385
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 19: possibilities and getting in the tournament. That's the situation right there.

1386
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 19: But we move on. We'll keep our eye on that one.

1387
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 19: But he is the thing, and that was the good

1388
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 19: news about Miami. The bad news about Miami. This is

1389
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 19: a former graduate and we're not really surprised of this

1390
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 19: news about Ben Roethlisberger. Former Steeler teammate Joey Porter says

1391
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 19: that Ben Roethlisberger was not a good person and we

1392
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,719
Speaker 19: sort of problems he had on the campus in Oxford,

1393
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 19: you know, with women and things like that. He had

1394
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 19: some locker room issues with the Pittsburgh Steelers. He was

1395
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 19: suspended four games in twenty ten the violation of the

1396
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:50,640
Speaker 19: NFL's personal conduct policy. Multiple women accused him of misconduct

1397
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 19: back in old eight and twenty ten. Okay, so this

1398
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 19: guy was not a good guy. However, it's funny that

1399
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 19: Joey Porter came out there and did this, I mean,

1400
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 19: really Joey Porter went nuts on this. He is why

1401
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:04,640
Speaker 19: he vote Roethlisberger was a bad teammate. He said that Roetherisberger.

1402
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 19: Get this, This is unbelievable. He did not sign autograss

1403
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 19: for teammates family members during his rookie season. Really how

1404
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 19: Joey Porter was a team captain at the time. He

1405
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 19: decided to have a meeting with Wealthsburger. They specifically the

1406
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 19: client to sign something for defensive end Aaron Smith. How

1407
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 19: do you do that as a rookie? I mean really,

1408
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 19: And he's just a cocky guy. And we saw that

1409
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 19: in Oxford and I continued in the pros. Although I

1410
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 19: will tell you this much, he's probably going to be

1411
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 19: voted into the Hall of Fame. Went too Super Bowls.

1412
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 19: But I will say this, I just I don't get it.

1413
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 19: I don't care why someone could be like that. But

1414
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 19: I guess the ego took control. Maybe it's the ego.

1415
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 2: Well, you know, and he he got away with the

1416
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 2: stuff at Miami. Yeah, and a lot of these a

1417
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 2: lot of these star athletes get away with everything up

1418
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 2: to murder on a college campus because of their talent,

1419
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: because of their ability on the field or on the basketball,

1420
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 2: and you know, probably been that way all his life.

1421
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,799
Speaker 2: Ben has probably been the best player on the field

1422
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 2: from the time he was in grade school to junior high,

1423
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 2: to high school to college. He feels entitled, and he

1424
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 2: feels entitled to do whatever he wants and get whatever

1425
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 2: he wants whenever he wants it. He just feels that way,

1426
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 2: and you know, I blame parents and I blame school

1427
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:29,400
Speaker 2: administrators for allowing that to continue and not putting a

1428
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 2: stopgap on that. One of these days Ben Roethlisberg will

1429
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 2: And maybe it's happened already. I don't know now that

1430
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 2: he's retired, but one of these days he will have

1431
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 2: a reckoning. It may at it maybe at the end

1432
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 2: of his life. It may be before his life is over,

1433
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 2: but he will have a reckoning someday, and he will

1434
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 2: understand that he ain't all that in a bag of chips,

1435
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 2: and he can't just do whatever he wants whenever he

1436
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 2: wants to.

1437
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 19: That's what I well, no, no, I.

1438
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:01,560
Speaker 2: Know, even though you've been coddled the entire time.

1439
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 19: You you you do it to me, You call on

1440
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 19: me with those big introductions and things like that, you

1441
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 19: do it. So I made me feel bigger than I

1442
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:08,640
Speaker 19: should be.

1443
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 2: Well, i'm responsible for your bad behavior. Yes, okay, right, good,

1444
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 2: Well at least I haven't driven you to drink because

1445
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 2: you were already drinking. So what what are you planning

1446
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,799
Speaker 2: on doing for your wife's birthday? I'm curious.

1447
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 19: I don't think there's any of your business. You're right,

1448
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 19: and honestly, I mean.

1449
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 2: I do have a friends.

1450
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 19: I don't have to you with friends, but still, I mean,

1451
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 19: it's my wife. Do I tell you what's going on in.

1452
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 3: Your bedroom door?

1453
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 19: And I ask you questions like that behind clothes, Not.

1454
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,959
Speaker 2: Since the police, not since the police arrested you outside

1455
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 2: our window. No, you don't.

1456
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 19: Okay, I will tell you after the birthday. But I

1457
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 19: will tell you one thing. I'll tell you what I'm where.

1458
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 19: I'm not going, all right, for for our birthday. We're

1459
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 19: not going to huddles to celebrate. We're doing that a

1460
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,759
Speaker 19: week from Saturday. The anniversary party.

1461
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 2: Well, this is this Saturday, the birthday party. The anniversary

1462
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 2: party is this Saturday, Andy the twenty first.

1463
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 3: Yes, oh, okay.

1464
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 15: I didn't realize that.

1465
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 19: I better write that down.

1466
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 2: I thought that we talked about this already.

1467
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 19: I know, you know me, you know I'm not like

1468
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 19: an elephant. Elephants, don't forget.

1469
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm not like ant I just are there Jewish elephants.

1470
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 19: You gotta see if it's circumcised. I guess I don't know.

1471
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta check the trunk. You gotta check

1472
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:26,639
Speaker 2: the junk.

1473
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 19: Check under the trunk.

1474
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, check the jump, not the trunk, exactly.

1475
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 19: Go right. You know I'm talking about the quad God

1476
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 19: I thought there for the guy. Yeah, they ate it,

1477
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 19: the falling twice in the free skate. You know what,

1478
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 19: It's funny because a lot of people are blaming him,

1479
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 19: blaming that the social media aspect of it, his ego whatever.

1480
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 19: You know what, that's fine. You know, if you can't

1481
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,759
Speaker 19: shut out social media, that's on you. With the pressure,

1482
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 19: he said, it's pressure. But I will tell you this much.

1483
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 19: I watched it, and uh, I tell you what made

1484
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 19: me feel good because the fact that you know, after

1485
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 19: he lost, he went and shook hands with the kid

1486
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 19: that won the gold. Well, sure, that's what And I

1487
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 19: love that you don't normally see that. That's what I love.

1488
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 2: He has had so much success Andy, and he will

1489
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 2: continue to have success. And everybody has an off night

1490
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 2: like you for example, this sounding.

1491
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 19: Listen to you us, Opie, what do you mean off night?

1492
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 19: You know you like it when we fight for that's.

1493
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 2: What you liked, you too much and it was making

1494
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 2: you misbehave. So I'm trying to straighten the ship. I'm

1495
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 2: trying to write the ship. Andy, I'm trying to straighten

1496
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 2: things out.

1497
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 4: Now.

1498
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 19: I got I got a super Bowl story for it. Okay, Okay,

1499
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 19: New England Patriots had a great season at rookie offensive

1500
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 19: tack Oble Campbell. Great, great player. Really, it's could be

1501
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 19: a super.

1502
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 4: Play this kid.

1503
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 19: And he really struggled at the Seahawks. Really one of

1504
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 19: the worst offensive showings in the Super Bowl history. Really,

1505
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 19: And after the Super Bowl, Campbell revealed to the reporters

1506
01:33:57,439 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 19: that he played with a torn ligament in his knee

1507
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 19: during the season. Okay, and I'm saying, wait a minute,

1508
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 19: I mean it sounds great. I know you probably want

1509
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 19: pity for it. That's your excuse is not playing well,

1510
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 19: why the hell do you play? I mean, I know,

1511
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 19: Drake may No, I'm talking about Will Campbell offensive tax.

1512
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 19: And I understand athletes be to a different drum. They

1513
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 19: have a psyche that I'll never understand that you know

1514
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 19: when the Bengals are playing in the freezer ball that

1515
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 19: come out there in shirt sleeves. I mean, you know

1516
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 19: you have that Madula machulu which I don't have, but

1517
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 19: they have it. But why would you play if your

1518
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 19: body is your temple, if your body is your office,

1519
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 19: depends on your body, and you're a young kid and

1520
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:40,640
Speaker 19: you're playing on a torn uh tour? What lit at me?

1521
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 19: I guess in your knee which could possibly ro up

1522
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,680
Speaker 19: to be even worse down the stretch and kind of

1523
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 19: ruin your career. Why would you do it? Why would

1524
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 19: the coach do it? Why would in fact the training

1525
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 19: staff do it? And I'll tell you something else towards

1526
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 19: that end. The other night, I think when you see

1527
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 19: won their basketball game because who they play, just because

1528
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 19: a Sunday game they played some on that forgot. I

1529
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 19: was watching the game and after the game they had

1530
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 19: the post game with with Dan Horde and Terry Nelson

1531
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 19: and Wes Miller came on and he was praising Diggsel

1532
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,680
Speaker 19: James because Disel Jeames said he had white things in

1533
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,719
Speaker 19: his throat and he's playing with one hundred and three fever. Really,

1534
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 19: shame on you, Wes letting him play. You know, if

1535
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 19: I'm a parent and I'm listening to the game of

1536
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 19: radio because I'm not there, I'm out of town, and

1537
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 19: I see the coaches letting him play with a fever

1538
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 19: of one old orty nuts, I don't get it. I

1539
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 19: don't understand. If you heard the post game, west Miller

1540
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 19: was saying, hey, you know, he was terrible. This is

1541
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 19: exactly what Wes said. He was terrible. He didn't play well,

1542
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 19: but he had a hundred three fever and they had

1543
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 19: these white little sores in his throat. You know what

1544
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 19: he said, be home in bed. If you had a child,

1545
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 19: would you want to play?

1546
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 2: Well, it's not even that Andy, but the threat to

1547
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:52,440
Speaker 2: his teammates and the other team if he's if he's infectious,

1548
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 2: if he's contagious.

1549
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 19: Yes, I don't get I. I don't understand the machoism

1550
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 19: and sports. I understand it's important to win, but I

1551
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 19: think your body and your helpless first, and I think

1552
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 19: Gissel James had a responsibility to coach. I can't go

1553
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 19: I can't give on hundred percent. I'm afraid to give

1554
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 19: my teammates, you know, but they can't tell the coach

1555
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 19: that where's the training stack, where's the team position? A

1556
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:13,679
Speaker 19: teen doctor?

1557
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:17,719
Speaker 2: Right, it sounds like another It sounds like another mess

1558
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 2: of the Miller era that you see to me, Andy,

1559
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 2: And with that we've got to conclude. Thank you so

1560
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 2: much for being the cherry on the cake of my day.

1561
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 3: You're throwing me off.

1562
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 2: Goodbye, see you next week, all right By