1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: The hour two. 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: Freedom Friday, and suddenly I'm all alone. Well, Devan's next door. 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 2: Max went out to get some water or coffee. We 4 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: now have to travel like to the far side of 5 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: the building in order to go and get it because 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: there's construction that's going on. This is also a shorter 7 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: break as well. But Max is back now waiting for 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: Catherine Johnson to arrive from Center of the American Experiment, 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: ak Kamara joining us a little bit later on in 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: the hour. I had this for later in the show, 11 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: but since this comment rolled in, it's a good time 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: to address this. And it's an aspect of the arguments 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: that the left has been using against Ice and particularly 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: Governor Tim Walls, most recently about what Ice Cannon can't do. 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: Let me play the clip first. So while sat down. 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen this or yet. Max, 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: this happened overnight. He's went on some other podcast yesterday. 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: I've been seeing he's been making the wrong Yeah. Yeah, 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: so he's sitting in some room with some do it 20 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: on some podcast. And I'll be honest with you, I 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: didn't bother to go and look to see who it was. 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: Because I don't really care. 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,919 Speaker 2: And I also have audio of Walls in a recent 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: interview yesterday where he's talking out of both sides of 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: his mouth like he's making good in one instance with 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: the President and they're working out deals, and the moment 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: he gets away from that and the flannel and the 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 2: beaning goes back on his head, he's back to trashing 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: the president again. However, this clip here, he's talking about 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: what ICE can and cannot do on this podcast. 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: And I this idea, Oh, you can't criticize ICE because 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: you're criticizing law enforcement. They are not law enforcement. They 33 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: are not professionals. How dare they slander that? And you 34 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,279 Speaker 3: can have JD. Vans and you can have these people 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: slander my police saying well, if Minneapolis and Minnesota's police 36 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 3: would help us more, whatever, it's because we're professionals and 37 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: we're taking care of the people. 38 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: Okay, there's a lot to unpack in that nineteen seconds, 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: but let's just focus on one little aspect of this. 40 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: First. 41 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: First off, United States Immigrations and Customers Enforcement is a 42 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: federal law enforcement agency. They're under the Department of Homeland Security. 43 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: They have a state admission to conduct criminal investigations. Obviously, 44 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: enforce immigration laws, preserve national security and protect public safety. 45 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 4: Okay. 46 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: Now, ICE was created as part of the Homeland Security 47 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: ad going back to two thousand and two, following September eleventh. 48 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: It was absorbed the prior functions of the Immigration and 49 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: Naturalization Service in the United States Custom Service. So they 50 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: basically just created a new entity back in two thousand 51 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: and two, which is part of what's made them so 52 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: ripe for criticism in this idea to abolish ICE. The 53 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: truth of the matter is, if they did, we would 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: just go back to the way that it was before, 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: with agents on the ground under a different banner doing 56 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: the same thing that they are doing. 57 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: Now. You do have some. 58 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: Differences relating to what ICE Canning can't do depending on 59 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 2: the state laws are concerned. Okay, But to this aspect 60 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: of them being federal law enforcement or them being law enforcement, 61 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 2: they absolutely are. 62 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 4: Okay. 63 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: So setting the table here, let's go to this talkback 64 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: because he raises a very interesting point and again something 65 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: that we have not talked about relating to all of 66 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: these controversies. 67 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 5: John, what's your take on that that video of my 68 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 5: Allen Freddy kicking the top car there, that that's like 69 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 5: a fifteen dight, must labor must have been damaged through 70 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 5: this hicol other than the light. That's a felony, must 71 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 5: be spit on a law enforcement option, that's an dollar felony, 72 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 5: that's potentially past years in prison if any want event 73 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 5: there the next week to get shot. Should I be 74 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 5: prosecuting these people for that kind of stuff and getting 75 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 5: them off the street. 76 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: Well, and they'rein rest. The conundrum, and I know that 77 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: was difficult to hear. But as the talkbacker points to, 78 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: and we've talked about this in the show. In the 79 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: wake of that new video that emerged showing what Alex 80 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: Pretty was doing some eleven days prior to the shooting 81 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: incident on Saturday, he was. 82 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: Breaking multiple laws. 83 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: But here you have Governor Tim Wall saying we don't 84 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: want ICE acting. 85 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: As law enforcement. They're not law enforcement, right. 86 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: The reality is ICE hasn't really been acting like law enforcement. 87 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: They have had I mean dozens is an understatement. They 88 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: have had many opportunities where they could go and easily 89 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 2: taken the custody numerous individuals on a daily basis for 90 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: getting in their way, just like Alex Pretty, and they 91 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: haven't been doing that. And that's the point that I 92 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: want to make is Walls wants to go and complain 93 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: they're not a law enforcement agency, when the reality is 94 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: if they were actually acting like a law enforcement agency, 95 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: or we had law enforcement there, we could have held 96 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: individuals like Alex accountable long before and Renee Nicole Good 97 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: or Nicole Renee Good long before they ever put themselves 98 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 2: in harms. 99 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 6: Way. Yeah, and I think one this would be again 100 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 6: a benefit of having local police and they're political, the 101 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 6: political leaders who are in charge of the local police 102 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 6: be corresponding with federal immigration to be working with federal 103 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 6: immigration because it's a lot easier to charge and convict 104 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 6: if you have a local officer who's actually doing the arrest. 105 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 6: ICE's main mission is not to arrest in charge US citizens. 106 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 6: It's to go and enforce our immigration laws. So this 107 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 6: is again the problem that sanctuary cities create is that, yes, 108 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 6: like a lot of these people, Alex pretty when you're 109 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 6: kicking a law enforcement vehicle, knocking out the tail light, 110 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 6: acting as he did eleven days before he was shot, yeah, 111 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 6: you would want to probably arrest him and potentially charge him. 112 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 6: And the fact that that's not happening is not the 113 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 6: fault of ICE ices. Man you've seen the protest. You'd 114 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 6: have to arrest twenty twenty people right every time an 115 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 6: ice vehicle is Lloyd. 116 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd essentially need to go and use. 117 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: Like one of our nicknamed snowplows with a big scoop. 118 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, and just go and just just go and scoop, 119 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 6: just scoop them all every single time this incident. 120 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good That's that's an idea. That's why 121 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm here. 122 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 7: Let's go here, Happy Friday, random guy for Greater Minnesota. Here, 123 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 7: I'm protesting the ice protesters by working today. 124 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: Good for you and fertilizer from rose Mount to Saint Charles. 125 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: And it's gonna be a good day, folks. 126 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 7: I'll make sure long when I go buy all the 127 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 7: protesters doing nothing with my fingers. What is everybody else 128 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 7: doing to protest the ice pro testers? 129 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: Have a good weekend. 130 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to uh, I'm gonna probably watch a lot 131 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: of movies and just enjoy time with my family. 132 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: As Catherine A. 133 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: Johnson from American Experiment gets yourself a settled in, Max, 134 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: we have a question for you on a Freedom Friday morning. 135 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 4: Guys. 136 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 8: This is Rick and rose Mount Eric question for Max 137 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 8: as a reper senative. When you guys are not in session, 138 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 8: what do you do the rest of the year? 139 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: What are you doing the rest of them? 140 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 9: Oh? 141 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: You know, like a tangout, what what are you doing here? 142 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: Smoke a cigar? We talk about all the money I 143 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: make as a legislator. Rick is Rick is a Rick 144 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: is a good friend of the show. I just his questions. 145 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: Bikeb left. But in all seriousness, what what that time 146 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: is meant for? 147 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: But that time is. 148 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 6: Meant for being a citizen legislature. That time is meant 149 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 6: to go back into your community, go back to your job, 150 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 6: and not be a full time activist, as most of 151 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 6: my DFL colleagues are. 152 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: The jobs that you have to do, you know, that's right, 153 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: You have another gig. 154 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 6: So if you go back, you do town halls, you 155 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 6: do the parades, You go and work your job. You 156 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 6: become a contributing member of society, even though probably six 157 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 6: months beforehand you screwed society with something you decided. And 158 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 6: that's a that's the job of a legislature when you're 159 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 6: not in when you're not in session. 160 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Catherine Johnson, when you're not like doing the part 161 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: casts and stuff, and what are you doing with your time. 162 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 10: Uh, baking cookies, cleaning up the house for my husband. 163 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: How you doing this morning? Good to see it so good? 164 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 8: Uh? 165 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: Great, I'm a little tired, honestly. I'll get there. 166 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 4: Okay. 167 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: Sorry, you want some coffee, and you get some coffee, I'll. 168 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 6: Just see it. 169 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: I'll call this down. 170 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 6: Road, okay, if you want some coffee. It is like 171 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 6: a maze out there getting to it. 172 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: I know. 173 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot of constructs like Jack. 174 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 6: Nicholson in the shining at the end, you know, when 175 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 6: he's walking around in the the frozen corn, maize or 176 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 6: whatever it is. Do not look up if you walk 177 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 6: out of the studio. They've replaced all the lights because 178 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 6: we're doing remodeling here at the station, and they've replaced 179 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 6: all the lights on the floor with these construction grade lights. 180 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, I just said, don't look. I just said. 181 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: She looked out the window. 182 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: To know. 183 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 4: I know this. 184 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 6: Catherine was the kid when mom and dad told her 185 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 6: to not look at the sun. 186 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 10: It was like, okay, yeah, I was Donald Trump when 187 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 10: the eclipse had. 188 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: I forgot about that glasses that was me. 189 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: I asked hr if we got hazard payd for them, 190 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: But they haven't gotten back to me. 191 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're so bright. 192 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: All right, let's go here, Satator Amy Klobashar announced yesterday 193 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: that she was running for governor of Minnesota in hopes 194 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: of becoming Democrat to Governor Tim Wallas's successor. First off, 195 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: is it just me? And again, I'm trying to look 196 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: at this, right, I'm trying to take off it's near impossible. 197 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: I'm trying to take off my you know, my partisan blinders, 198 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: if you will. And I'm trying to look at this, 199 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: you know, rationally. 200 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: But is it just me? 201 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: Or did this announcement like land like a dull thud? 202 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I got this, I got up yesterday, I'm 203 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: doing the show. It's like six thirty. I have somebody 204 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: randomly says Amy Klobashar announced a run, she put the 205 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: video up online and then I know she's been making 206 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: the rounds. But even when I was going through and 207 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: doing the prep for the show, like this is not 208 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: a major story on any of the outlets, Like there's 209 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: not a big deal being made. 210 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: So am I am I missing that? Or did this 211 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: just was this launch. 212 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 4: Kind of like? Eh? 213 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 6: No, I think that's probably right. But if you're Amy 214 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 6: klobash Ar you know your past electoral history, and you 215 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 6: know the machine that's going to carry you. Having a big, 216 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 6: splashy announcement on the DFL side doesn't really matter, because 217 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 6: it's more about the machine is gonna work for you 218 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 6: in this state. 219 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 10: It was already a coronation. I mean it was already 220 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 10: set up. She would be the only person in this 221 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 10: race and. 222 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: That's it. She didn't need anything splash yet. I didn't 223 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: even watch the videos. Well, I couldn't help but and 224 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: they weren't anything special. 225 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: I mean they were it was Senator of Small Things 226 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: level in terms of I thought that Actually, I thought 227 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: the beginning of her announcement was a big mistake because 228 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: she started off focusing on Renanicle Good and Alex pretty 229 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 2: especially in the wake of the further details that we 230 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: received this week, and I just don't I know that 231 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: it's playing with the hardcore base of Democrats. I get that, 232 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 2: and I know that it is fueling the outrage and 233 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: the protests that are going to continue heading into this 234 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: in the strikes heading into this weekend. 235 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: That being said, I just don't think that it's. 236 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 2: That it landed very well or that's a good starting 237 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: place for them, and I also wondered if it was 238 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: maybe somewhat intentionally a soft launch because of what I 239 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: had mentioned from the get go, and that is whoever announced, 240 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: and particularly Amy Klobash are when she does, I mean, 241 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: it is right in the middle of all these controversies, 242 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: and to that point, she did start off with the controversies, 243 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: and she's going to be saddled with having to ask, 244 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: you know, being asked questions about how the DFL, how 245 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: Walls and others are responding to all of this. 246 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: So maybe the soft launch, which it was intentional. 247 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 6: And I think it's worth acknowledging that in twenty twenty, 248 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 6: when the George Floyd situation happened, people forget right that. 249 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: There was an entire kind of social media movement. 250 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 6: There was outrage, and then the notion at the time 251 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 6: of defund the police was relatively popular. It was certainly 252 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 6: more popular then than it is now. 253 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: It's toxic now. 254 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 6: It's a nuclear bomb politically to say you still support 255 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 6: defund the police. And this is why it is so 256 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 6: important that as these situations happen, you need to pause, 257 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 6: not react, and give it more time than you're comfortable 258 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 6: with before putting something out there. 259 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: Publicly, because. 260 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 6: Defund ice or abolish ice could be the next defund 261 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 6: the police. Where right now, it's the thing you say, 262 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 6: it's the thing you to be societally accepted in the 263 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 6: in the dinner parties and and the group and you know, 264 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 6: the parties. It's a thing you say right now, but 265 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 6: it's a thing that could come back to haunt you 266 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 6: depending on how sentiment changes in the next year or two. 267 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 2: Now, I promise that I'm going to try to remain 268 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: as limited as I possibly can in sharing Amy globus 269 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: shark clips because I know that she is like nails 270 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: on a shockboard. Unfortunately, it is going to be a 271 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: difficult thing since she is the Democrat nominee at the 272 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 2: moment for governor. 273 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: So I do have a clip from Amy from last night. 274 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: We'll share that with you. 275 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 4: Coming up. 276 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: We will get with the group this morning and talk 277 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 2: about how yesterday Walls said that he would never run 278 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 2: for elected office again. And let's call in last night 279 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: on Fox News saying that she was hearing that he 280 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: might be appointed to that Senate to a seat. Also, 281 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: Akkamar will be joining us in studio at the bottom 282 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: of the hour, and we'll continue to take your talkbacks 283 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: on a Freedom Friday from the iHeartRadio app all morning 284 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: long here on Twin City's News. 285 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 9: Talk, Good morning, every one, Happy Friday. Just want to 286 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 9: give credit where credit is due with the wild game 287 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 9: last night with my family. We had a great time 288 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 9: Wild one four one. Yeah, there was nothing political, non 289 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:42,479 Speaker 9: tributes to violent attempted murderers or little soy boy activists 290 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 9: that violently attack cop vehicles. So kudos to the NHL 291 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 9: for not being like Major League Baseball, the NFL or 292 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 9: the NBA. 293 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 4: Have a nice day. 294 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: I think he took care of all the politics in 295 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: that talkback, So thank you so much for that, and 296 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: we'll get to more coming up next here on Twin 297 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: City's News Talk AM eleven thirty and one oh three 298 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: five FM. 299 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 11: Good morning, John, Hey, can you help me remember were 300 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 11: the National Guarden members wearing masks when they were threatening 301 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 11: people in Minnesota and chasing them indoors in neighborhoods. During 302 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 11: Tim Wall's COVID missions, thank you have a great day. 303 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they would have been. I can't tell which 304 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: way that talkback was going. He was very chipper. Thank 305 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: he was a friend. Yeah, I couldn't you. 306 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: Think you think so like it sounds like he was 307 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: trying to make an example of like the National Guard 308 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: wasn't doing this. 309 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: But then again, I'm always. 310 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 6: I'm always looking no see, I think it's the opposite 311 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 6: the other way. I think what he's saying is that 312 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 6: Ice is wearing masks, and then did the national Guard 313 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 6: wear masks during COVID They would have been and they did. 314 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, thank you for helping me for that up. 315 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: I hope that's it. 316 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 6: Start going on, Maybe leave another talkback to explain your 317 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 6: previous talkback, sir. 318 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: Representative Tom Emmer is on Fox News right now. He'll 319 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: be joining us in about a half hour from now 320 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 2: on on Twin City's News Talk. We do have Catherine 321 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: Johnson from American Experiment. We have Representative Max Rymer in studio, 322 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: and of course your talkbacks all morning long. 323 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 12: John justus Howard, your hair fair and a blizzard. 324 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 13: Amy Klobe. 325 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: Clube. I'll put that that is talk back of the 326 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: talk back of the day category. That's right, that's right, 327 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: that's right. Uh, that's right up there. I can't get 328 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: to my ah can't get to it fast enough. 329 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 14: He sent out a tweet he made fun of me. 330 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 14: For talking about climate change in the middle of a blizzard, 331 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 14: and he called me snow woman. So I wrote back, Hey, 332 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 14: Donald Trump, the science is on my side, and I'd 333 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 14: like to see how your hair would fare in a blizzard. 334 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: You know what it is because she does this with 335 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: this new clip that I have, Amy Klobashar does here 336 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: on Twin City's News Talk. 337 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: It's her bodyline, sanguage. 338 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: When you watch the videos, like she really leans in 339 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: to the cringe, like she really tries to own it. 340 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: I'll give her credit for that. 341 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: I don't think it works, but there is no doubt 342 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: that she is. She is giving it her all when 343 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: she goes in on she's. 344 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: Hammering that punchline, the stand up stick. 345 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: So she was at an event I believe, this week 346 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: and she had this to say. 347 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 14: One of my proudest photos that I ever keep chair 348 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 14: that I cherish is when my daughter was in sixth grade. 349 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 14: She was twelve years old and she was at Tuttle 350 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 14: School and her class was complete with dozens and dozens 351 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 14: of young Somali girls. And I have a picture of 352 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 14: her standing with the girls and they are super tall 353 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 14: and she is super short, but she is so proud 354 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 14: to be standing with them. 355 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: What are we buying that story? 356 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: So she's the one of the favorite pictures she has 357 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: of her daughter is her daughter standing with a bunch 358 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: of Somali women. 359 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: He difference just like really cracks around, really really just it. 360 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 15: Was just so so tall, these individuals, these individuals are 361 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 15: you know, I know, and actually I have audio of 362 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 15: the conversation that took place between the daughter and and 363 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 15: those Somali women. 364 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys will share it with you. 365 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 16: So I'm Somali. I'm proud to be Somali. To me, 366 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 16: being Somali isn't just eating bananas with rice. It's a 367 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 16: it's a lot. 368 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 5: It's like it's a it's. 369 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 16: A it's an interesting thing. It's uh, it's very hard 370 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 16: to describe what means to be Somali and what it 371 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 16: means to be American. But it's like a cultural fusion. 372 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 16: It's kind of like the bananas and rice. You know, 373 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 16: people don't really see like, you know, it's a it's 374 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 16: a it's you know, people don't think, oh, you can 375 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 16: eat bananas with rice, But that's what it's like to 376 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 16: be Somali and American. It's like that combination of Banana 377 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 16: and Rice. But you're gonna get what I mean. 378 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: We're not We're not having our typical A Costco pizza tonight. 379 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: We're actually gonna on the family, but the banana. 380 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 6: And Rice and we're having a Justice household. 381 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: It's gonna be nice. It's gonna be a nice night 382 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: of bananas and rice the Max. 383 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 10: You're a representative, Do you just put anyone up during your. 384 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 6: Well that was bad, That was a bad idea, that 385 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 6: was No, would not have made that decision. 386 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: That was a Bananas and Rice was a bad choice. 387 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was not a great spokesperson. And by the way, 388 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 6: like I noticed this young lady's bandage lasted for like 389 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 6: thirty minutes in her mugshot and beyond she did a 390 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 6: couple of other interviews. It seems like her head is 391 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 6: miraculously healed from this assault that happened. 392 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: And now she's gonna be able to enjoy bananas and 393 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: Rice from jail because she got arrested this week as well. 394 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 2: Daily Wire on Amy Klobashar says this, assuming Globa Shark 395 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: Clinch is a Democrat nomination, assuming our writing campaign for 396 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: Aaronquaid is. 397 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 6: It sounds like no, it's a draft campaign. It's a 398 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 6: draft camp. That means there is somebody behind the scenes 399 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 6: spending money on trying to get Aaron make Wade to. 400 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: Run for governor and her it has to be her. 401 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm rooting. I'm rooting for that. We have breaking news. 402 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 2: Sources say that former failed CNN host Don Lemon has 403 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: indeed been arrested. 404 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 4: Hell yeah, let's go. 405 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 2: The former CNN anchor Don Lemon arrested over the Minnesota 406 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 2: church protest. I wonder, now, is he gonna be Oh, well, 407 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: he'd be like in a Minnesota jail, Like will he 408 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: be in the same like jail as the Banana and 409 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: Rice Chick or. 410 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: The Kima Levi Armstrong. Well, they're going to book them locally. 411 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 6: But I'm guessing if he got arrested for the same 412 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 6: thing that Nikima got arrested for, I think these would 413 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 6: be like federal federal charges. 414 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: All right, Since we're here and I and again I'm 415 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: kind of all over the place this morning on a 416 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: Freedom Friday, We'll get back to Amy klobas shark because 417 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: I want to play the clip from Liz Colin and 418 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 2: on Fox News last night talking about the potential of 419 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 2: her Amy pointing walls to the to the Senate seat. 420 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: But Nikimi was released along with the other individuals. I'll 421 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 2: have to face further court dates for their charges in 422 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: stemming from the city's church in Saint Paul protest. But 423 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: she held a press conference. It was yesterday. I haven't 424 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: a sound bite. This is an actual clip. It's not 425 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: a joke here, guys. I know sometimes I like to 426 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: have fun, but this is Nikima Levy Armstrong. Yesterday in 427 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: the wake of her being arrested from that protest. 428 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 17: We had belly chains around our waists and we had 429 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 17: handcuffs with bars in the middle. As someone who majored 430 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 17: in African American studies, I can tell you that that 431 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 17: is the closest I ever felt the slavery in my life, 432 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 17: being shackled as if I was a slave. It is 433 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 17: unacceptable and unconscionable. 434 00:20:58,840 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: But it's on brand. 435 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: I mean, what an insult to history. She has offended history. 436 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: I am going to speak up to her and speak 437 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 2: for her historical offensives that is offensive to history. 438 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 10: Does he actually think she did nothing wrong? 439 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 6: I think so. 440 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: I think she felt I think she feels very. You'd 441 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: have to feel righteous, you'd have to feel righteous. You'd 442 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 2: have to feel righteous and in the right to go 443 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: and do something like that. 444 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: I think she does not feel like she's done anything wrong. 445 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: It's so delusional. 446 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 10: You just wanted to shake her, like are you living 447 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 10: in another world? 448 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 6: By the way, not too long ago, Nakima lev Pounds 449 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 6: was in the in contention to be your next mayor 450 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 6: of Minneapolis. People forget about that, but she was not 451 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 6: too far away. 452 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 1: Was that when she was Nakima Levi Armstrong. No, that 453 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: she was Nikima Levi Pounds at the time. 454 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 2: At the time, she was okay, all right, well that 455 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: is and again that's just that's offensive to history. 456 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: No, you got arrested. You got arrested. This is what 457 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: happens when you get arrested, depriving people of their right 458 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: to worship. This is what happens. 459 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: And apparently there was another I haven't seen a story 460 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: on it yet, I just on a video, but there 461 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: was another church disturbance. Did you guys see this online? 462 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: There was a there was a church that was in service. 463 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: They had a whole bunch of people that showed up 464 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: and then in the middle, just like with what happened 465 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: in Saint Paul, a group of individuals got up and 466 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 2: started doing an anti ice song in the church, disrupting everything. 467 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: It was making the rounds overnight. 468 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: I was just waiting for a story to pop up 469 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: on it because I was disturbed to see another protest 470 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: inside of a church, and obviously in the wake of 471 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 2: the fact that these individuals were arrested for what they 472 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: for what they ended up doing. 473 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 6: By the way, with the Don Lemon thing is something 474 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 6: I was thinking about as we were talking, is it's like, Hey, 475 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 6: get ready for just another narrative here, because I think 476 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 6: what's gonna come out from this is that Donald Trump 477 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 6: arrests journalists, you know, and you're. 478 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: Gonna hear all sorts of preening about that. 479 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, so you're ready battle stations, everybody, You're right, gosh, 480 00:22:59,400 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 6: darn it. 481 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: Another fun little narratives this weekend, all right, more with 482 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: our guests. When we come back. We should have. 483 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: RNC Committee man Ak Kamara with us in studio, looking 484 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: forward to joining him. We'll play that audio from Liz 485 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: Collin and Fox News last night, and we'll continue to 486 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: get to your talkback comments and more from Governor Chim 487 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: Walls and his appearance on a podcast yesterday. 488 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: I also just. 489 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: Want to spike this in before we go to break, 490 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 2: because I failed to put it in the intro this morning, 491 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 2: and I feel bad for that because somebody had pointed 492 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 2: this out. So for those that missed it when if 493 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: you were listening at the start of the show, all 494 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 2: included here and we're back in just a moment here. 495 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: On Twin City's News. 496 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 12: Talk Energy Energy Energy. 497 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 18: The best pod awaken up is no Windramala last drum 498 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 18: point five and on the Free iHeartRadio. 499 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 2: Wipp All right, I'm gonna give a hat tip to 500 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: the talkback I'm about to play because this is filling 501 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: in a historical. 502 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: Gap that I kind of knew was there, but I 503 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: wasn't sure before I play this. 504 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: It's in reference to Nakima Levy Armstrong formerly Nakima Levy Pounds, 505 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: who made this comment yesterday during a press conference in 506 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: the wake of her being arrested in the city's church 507 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: protest a few weekends ago. And as we announced on 508 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: Twin City's News Talk the breaking news that Don Lemon 509 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 2: has been arrested in that we'll go ahead and invite 510 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 2: our in studio guests back on again, too, Representative Max Rymer. 511 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: We have Catherine Johnson from American Experiment and ak Kamara 512 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: RNC Committeement has now joined us. 513 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 13: Good morning, Good morning, just for all of our listeners. 514 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 13: Because you can't see, I'm wearing a Jesus Is King 515 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 13: shirt and I love it. 516 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 4: It's my favorite shirt. 517 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: No, I was listening. It brought a smile to my 518 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: favorite walk in the doors. 519 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 13: I wear this when I fly and I get nucks 520 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 13: all the time too. 521 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah, not any stern looks or 522 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 6: fus or no, no, no. 523 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 13: I mean if I did, I'd probably be like some 524 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 13: like five foot one, sixty year old white liberal woman 525 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 13: because they have like they have no fear. They'll come 526 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 13: up and say wild stuff to me, and I'm like, 527 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 13: I'm a good, god fearing Christian man. But what if 528 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 13: I wasn't. 529 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: Well. 530 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 10: The good thing is the pilot, too, is usually on 531 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 10: your side. We wore Maga hats once on a plane. 532 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 10: This is back in like twenty eighteen going to sea pack. 533 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got knucks for the pilot. 534 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 17: Yeah. 535 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 4: Oh wow, yeah, yeah, I love that. 536 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: Now you'll get like knucks to the face. 537 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 2: Before I played this comment this talk back, AK, because 538 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: you're black. 539 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: Yes, I want to go ahead. 540 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 13: I know, I know, I saw really the listeners, but 541 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 13: I'm just learning this what I thought you were just 542 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 13: tail this whole time. 543 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: I typically don't see color. K had to inform me 544 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: of this a John, so you know, you know I 545 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: am a black man. 546 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: I want to do it. 547 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 2: Just get your just get your your quick thoughts on 548 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 2: Nikimi's comments from yesterday. 549 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 17: We had belly chains around our waists and we had 550 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 17: handcuffs with bars in the middle. As someone who majored 551 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 17: in African American studies, I can tell you that that 552 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 17: is the closest I ever felt the slavery in my life, 553 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 17: being shackled as if I was a slave. It is 554 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 17: unacceptable and unconscionable. 555 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: But it's on brand. 556 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 2: Just I don't want you to comment, but just I 557 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: don't want to add something here because I only picked 558 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: up on the second time. Does it require that studies 559 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: for her to end up feeling that way? Like if 560 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: she hadn't gone through those studies, would she if not 561 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: had felt that way? It's like this seems like they 562 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: were they were sort of mutually exclusive. 563 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 13: But AKA here, Yeah, I mean, I think she needs 564 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 13: to get a refund from all the institutions that gave. 565 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 4: Her degrees, whether it's her law degree or her African 566 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 4: American Studies degree. 567 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 13: But yeah, like listen, the idea that she's like to 568 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 13: invoke some type of like if black people are in 569 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 13: chain just because we're slaves is so patently absurd, But 570 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 13: it's on brand for Nikima Levy Pound because her entire 571 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 13: identity is around her race. She is like the prototypical 572 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 13: just black supremacist nationalists, like quite literally, and I'm not 573 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 13: trying to. 574 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 4: Be like cute about it. 575 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 13: She thinks that white people inherently are bad, like that 576 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 13: she said at numerous times. So just the fact that 577 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 13: she's on this like you know, oh, I'm being oppressed 578 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 13: and it's like you were literally in a church oppressing people. 579 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 2: Well, there's a little bit of history here, and you 580 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: can actually extrapolate from this because I've been I've been 581 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: talking about this quite a bit this week, playing clips 582 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: of Clinton, Bill and Hillary Biden Amy klobishar are from 583 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: a president Barack Obama, especially relating to immigration, just how 584 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 2: they used to all sound like Republicans on the on 585 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: the issue, and we've seen examples of individuals shifting here 586 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: locally as well. So again to add I knew there 587 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 2: was something in the back of my mind in terms 588 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 2: of the familiarity that I had with Nakima Levy Armstrong 589 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: formerly Nakima lev Pounds. 590 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: He put the pieces together. 591 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 19: Hey, good morning guys. I'm not sure if anybody has 592 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 19: pointed this out or not. John, I cannot remember if 593 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 19: you were there or not, or if it was Drew 594 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 19: and maybe Bob Davis. But Nakima Levy Pounds used to 595 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 19: come on. It was either weekly or several times a month, 596 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 19: and she was somewhat reasonable and then you could just 597 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 19: see her slowly slide into absurdity and then she was 598 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 19: just gone. 599 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: So that was before I got here. However, I used 600 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: to listen to the show. That's right, Yes, I used 601 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: to listen right, yeah, I used to listen to the 602 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: show before I got here, And that's where I remember 603 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: that from. And there are a number of individuals that 604 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: fall into that category. So she used to be that 605 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: way you had. Reverend Tim Christopher used to be reasonable 606 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: and would come on the show, even came on with 607 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: me before he ended up veering way over to the left. 608 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Rupart a week, it was a weekly, was on 609 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: the shows. 610 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: He was you know, and now all these individuals, I mean, 611 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: they would not touch the show with a ten foot 612 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: with a ten foot poll would not even be reasonable 613 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: or rational at all. But just it's a really good example. Now, 614 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: again we're looking at. 615 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: About a decade. 616 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: I mean, this is about ten years worth in terms 617 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: of because I've been here going on ten years now. 618 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: But it tells you the way that things. 619 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 2: Have shifted over the course of the past ten years, 620 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 2: you know, in the larger view with the Democrat Party, 621 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: but you can see it in these individuals that used 622 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: to be frequent guests on the show. 623 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy. 624 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 6: It's also interesting you bring that up because when Drew 625 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 6: was here too, and we would do the Friday thing 626 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 6: sometimes Drew would have stand up comedians in. Yeah, and 627 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 6: I became, you know, friends with them on social media 628 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 6: platforms or followed them or whatever. And it's interesting to 629 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 6: see how we used to be able to have a 630 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 6: reasonable conversation on this show with those people and how 631 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 6: much I mean, there are some I won't name names, 632 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 6: but there are some of the comedians that I remember 633 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 6: sitting right next to where Cat is right now, and 634 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 6: they are radical of leftists. 635 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's radical. 636 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 13: The Overton window, like everyone always says that, like, oh, 637 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 13: Republicans are becoming more whatever. It's like our window has 638 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 13: stayed relatively in the same, like our position right, but 639 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 13: the window has shifted so far to the left that 640 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 13: now like it's it's crazy because Democrats either decided to 641 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 13: move with the Overton window to the left, and that's 642 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 13: why so many of them like spout and espouse Marxist ideology. 643 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 13: But it's like most Republicans, we've stayed in the same spot, 644 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 13: but now we are considered far right wing for positions 645 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 13: that used to be like yeah, this is boilerplate like 646 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 13: Middle America, and now we're considered racist, fascist Nazis. And 647 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 13: I literally saw an argument last night that some stats 648 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 13: about border patrol, seventeen percent are Hispanic, twenty three percent 649 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 13: are Black American. Maybe it's flipped the other way and 650 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 13: people are like, well, yeah, well didn't you know that 651 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 13: there were black Nazis? 652 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 4: And I'm like ha ha, Like that's literally their argument. Yeah. 653 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, It's like their history book revolves around just like 654 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 6: three major things. It's like World War two, the Civil 655 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 6: rights movement in January sixth, and that's the only those 656 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 6: are the only three events in history you can reference. 657 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting. 658 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: And just one more point on this, because there have 659 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: been foes of the show where that where I've actually 660 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: watched that transition as well, where the commentary online used 661 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: to be somewhat rational would just kind of stick to 662 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: the points they'd offer a different view, and then they 663 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 2: just completely went off just the absolute, total deep end, 664 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: just just into complete and total you know, Nutbarville, right, right. 665 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: But they lead people too. It's not just the leadership 666 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: on the left. 667 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 10: Like just looking at my Instagram feed over the last 668 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 10: two weeks, you can see how they shift everyone underneath 669 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 10: them by using this language that makes it seem like, yeah, 670 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 10: this moment we're in is akin to slavery, or is 671 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 10: a kin to something in. 672 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: Nazism, fascism, Yeah, civil. 673 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 10: Rights normal, but just you know, sort of following the news, 674 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 10: buy into it because they believe the news. They believe 675 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 10: this leadership who is actually radically insane. 676 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 6: Can I just say one more thing about Nikima in 677 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 6: that speech. Imagine being like a fifty year old and 678 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 6: touting your undergrad degree like that, Yeah, my degree in 679 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 6: African American studies leads me to believe It's like you're 680 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 6: fifty years old. 681 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: They're obsessed with the degrees. 682 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 10: Like you saw people, you know, shaming some of the 683 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 10: border patrol agents and then saying, you know, well, I 684 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 10: bet they didn't even have a degree. 685 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: When you know the nurse, it's their credibility statement. 686 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: They don't have anything of any good substance to share, 687 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: so they have to bolster whatever view that they want. 688 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: I mean, that was the whole reason why I spent 689 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: time on that Rachelle Olsen editorial that I started the 690 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: show off this morning that was just so comically ridiculous, 691 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: where she uses Chris Maddele to. 692 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: Go and be like, see he's upset. 693 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 2: But you go back to December fourth, and she wrote 694 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: an entire editorial ripping on the guy and how he 695 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 2: was never going to be able to wait, there's nothing, 696 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: but it's all bad faith. 697 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: It's all bad faith. Yeah, you are correct. 698 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 19: Ar did come on the show, and he came on 699 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 19: the show with originally, Oh my. 700 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: Gosh, can you imagine that happening today? I think we'd 701 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: have fun. 702 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 13: If we have fun, I mean, I'd be having fun. 703 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 13: But I don't think that Aaron Ruper can like separate 704 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 13: himself from like reality, like I mean, his his fake reality. 705 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 13: Every time I see him post, I laugh because there's 706 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 13: so many different things that connect us. 707 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 4: He's from Forrest Lake. 708 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 13: I live in Forrest Lake, right, and when I go back, 709 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 13: I do remember interacting with him in person numerous times, 710 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 13: because again, like when the Overton windows shifted, there was 711 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 13: a bunch of moderate Republicans that are now firmly Democrats. 712 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 4: And that's that's just what happened. 713 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 13: But yeah, I would think if he could just strip 714 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 13: away his radical just moment and just be a normal person, 715 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 13: we would get along relatively well. 716 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: But I'm just not sure. 717 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 6: I'm not sure we have anyone of prominence left who 718 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 6: is capable of doing that anymore. 719 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: I know Dean Phillips. 720 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 4: Not even in that anymore. 721 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 6: Man, Well, have you invited him on the show? That 722 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 6: could be interesting, would be interesting. 723 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: I do have an invite out for so I'm Somali. 724 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 16: I'm proud to be Somali. To me, being Somali isn't 725 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 16: just eating bananas with rice. 726 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: I'll just stop it. That would make for great rate. 727 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 13: I just think it's funny because someone must have given 728 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 13: her the advice of, like, all right, if you get nervous, 729 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 13: just go back to the main talking point that there's 730 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,959 Speaker 13: you know, Somali's are this fusion of America apparently, which 731 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 13: bananas aren't American and neither is rice unless she said, 732 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 13: I eat bananas in wild rice, but like rice is 733 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 13: definitely not an American staple. 734 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 2: Well, and I you know, I broke all this down yesterday, 735 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 2: but I think there were multiple times where she wanted 736 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 2: to talk positive about America, and every time she did, 737 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: she was like, oh, I can't do that, and so 738 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 2: she just kept defaulting. 739 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: To bananas and her eyes. 740 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 2: Okay, and America is great and they have all these opportunities. 741 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 2: We want to take advantage of it. But something in 742 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 2: the back of her head was going, no, I can't 743 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: talk good about America's. I'll just stick on bananas and 744 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 2: her ice. 745 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: All right, let's go here. 746 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 2: I was going to make an intelligence bananas and rice correlation, 747 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 2: but I couldn't get it out of my head quick enough. 748 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 2: Here's the laws from yesterday. But this will lead into 749 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: Liz Colin from last night on Jesse Waters. This is 750 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: what Governor Tim Walls had said earlier this week. 751 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 3: We're already doing it. 752 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 20: Do you regret jumping out before a bunch moment, no, 753 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 20: And part of it was to look, I recognize that 754 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 20: I'm a lightning rod and this is a tough it's 755 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 20: a tough space for I'm in because I know they 756 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 20: hate me personally and they take it out on my 757 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 20: constituents because old white guys who are former governors tend 758 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 20: to land on their feet. Okay type of thing, but 759 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 20: in all fairness, on the timing, I removed myself and 760 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 20: then two days later Renee Good is murdered. But I 761 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 20: think one of the things is is I have no 762 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 20: political consideration. We'll never run for an elected office again, 763 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 20: never again, never again, and I will just do the work. 764 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 20: And what I found is okay. 765 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: So he says he never running for office again, says 766 00:35:59,600 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: he's done. 767 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 4: So. 768 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 2: Liz Colin was on Jesse Waters last night. Here's a 769 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 2: bit of their exchange. 770 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: Governor Walsough. 771 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 21: You'll notice Jesse careful to say that he will not 772 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 21: run for public office again. However, Senator Ammy Clobshar could 773 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 21: still appoint him to her Senate seat. Also interesting to 774 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 21: note that Senator Clobshar and her announcement did not mention 775 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 21: President Trump today by name. She did say that she 776 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 21: was going to root out fraud. But that's hard for 777 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 21: many of us to believe. She's been a senator for 778 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 21: nearly twenty years. She has been silent on the issue 779 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 21: of Somali fraud in Minnesota. 780 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: Wait, so, Liz, are you saying there's a deal between 781 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 2: Walls and Amy there she's going to appoint him to 782 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 2: be a senator. 783 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 21: It is a possibility, And I thought the word choice 784 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 21: in that interview last night was quite interesting. But here 785 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 21: on the ground, I think police officers are feeling a 786 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 21: bit relieved. 787 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: I've misp me stop it here. So yeah, I've heard this. 788 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of a lot. 789 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 2: Of friends of the show that have been reaching out 790 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 2: and asking me my thoughts on it. I don't personally 791 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 2: see the upside for Democrats for a Klobashar, for the 792 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 2: party itself to go and make a move like like that. 793 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: I just I don't see. 794 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 2: There being enough benefit to the party to go and 795 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 2: place Walls in that seat. 796 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: So I could be wrong on that, but I just 797 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: I just don't see how that is. 798 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: A positive for them moving forward in her election election Champe. 799 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, and it wouldn't be out of character for Tim 800 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 6: Walls to lie about something like this, but I agree. 801 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 6: I happen to think that Angie Craig is going to 802 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 6: lose in this primary to Peggy Flan again, and I 803 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 6: think she would be the number one choice to be 804 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 6: appointed to Amy Klobashar's seat. But hopefully we don't have 805 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 6: that problem and in November we reject Amy Klobashar at 806 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 6: the polls. 807 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 10: It's actually a good prediction. I also think, you know, 808 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 10: he said old white governors tend to land on their feet. 809 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 17: I don't know. 810 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: Maybe he's talking about Governor. 811 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 10: Dayton, who ended up marrying his campaign aid over forty 812 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 10: one years younger than his plan. 813 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 21: Maybe that's his plan. 814 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: Some would consider that landing on your feet. 815 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 13: Yeah, well, I think that The thing that's funny is 816 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 13: that my initial reaction is, well, like, well, yeah, you're 817 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 13: not gonna run. 818 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 4: For office because they're gonna be in prison. Duh. 819 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 2: I mean, of course, well, he is trying to raise 820 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 2: money for his legal decision. 821 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 13: But I do think that there is probably conversations about 822 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 13: that exact situation in which if Amy Klobashar wins, that 823 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 13: she'll do an appointment and then we can ramp up. 824 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 13: But I there's a part of me that seriously would 825 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 13: love to see that, because there still has to be 826 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 13: a special election, correct, Like she phil you got. 827 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 6: She'll get to a point as governor, right, and then 828 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 6: you'll serve out like the kind of that interim term 829 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 6: and then you'll have to run for in election eventually. 830 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 6: But keep in mind that Tina Smith was appointed to 831 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 6: her seat as well, and then like had that seat 832 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 6: for a period of time and then had to run 833 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 6: for for election after that. 834 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm just curious when does the election? When's the 835 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 13: election actually called for that Senate seat? But so I 836 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 13: if she, if she appoints Walls, Walls is going to 837 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 13: set out the rest of the four. 838 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 4: Year term, would he? 839 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 13: I don't believe, so I think a special election has 840 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 13: to be called. But anyway, I hope that if that, 841 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 13: if that's what actually happens, and you know, I'm sure 842 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 13: a talkbacker will will correct the record, then sure, because 843 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 13: it would seem just way way too corrupt to appoint 844 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 13: a governor and then to sit in that seat and 845 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 13: then if he was at that point going to run 846 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 13: again for a re election, I think it'd be. 847 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 6: Well, or maybe he takes the appointment because Tim Walls's 848 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 6: exact words and I don't say this is a conspiracy theorist. 849 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 6: I say this as someone you have to pinpoint what 850 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 6: politicians are saying. I believe Tim Wallas's exact quote was 851 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 6: he has no intention to run for elected office. Again, 852 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 6: that doesn't mean maybe he'd refuse an appointment to an 853 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 6: elected office. 854 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 2: The only way I do see it happening if my 855 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 2: other scenario comes to fruition, and I still see this 856 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 2: being a possibility. This goes back to what I was 857 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: saying in with regard to how I felt Aman clobersh 858 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 2: Ours launch was really kind of just landed with a 859 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 2: thud because she is saddled with However, Walls continues to 860 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 2: respond to the ongoing controversies here, and it's not going 861 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 2: well right now. 862 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you have Democrats that are ticked. 863 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 2: Off that you have state law enforcement that are getting involved. 864 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 2: Now they've been protesting down at the Capitol. And as 865 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, let me go ahead and take 866 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 2: this moment here, because I'm expecting that the Democrats are 867 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 2: going to be taking more heat from their own party 868 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 2: in the wake of some of the changes that have 869 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 2: actually taken place regarding the ice operations here in Minnesota. 870 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 1: This is from Fox News. 871 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 22: Yesterdayman announced a pretty big change in sanctuary policy here 872 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 22: in the state of Minnesota. Homan says, the state Attorney General, 873 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 22: Keith Ellison tells the Trump administration that jails can start 874 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 22: notifying ICE when they are going to release a wanted 875 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 22: criminal illegal alien. 876 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 23: I had a very good meeting with Attorney General Attorney 877 00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 23: General Ellison, and he has clarify for me. County jails 878 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 23: may notify ICE other release dates a criminal public safety risks, 879 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 23: so ICE can take custody upon the release from the jail. 880 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,439 Speaker 22: This is a pretty big shift, Sandra, because the Trump 881 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 22: administration has been asking sanctuary jurisdictions like Minnesota to at 882 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 22: least notify them when they are going to release wanted 883 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 22: criminal illegal aliens. Now the state of Minnesota says it 884 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 22: will notify them. It's really going to be up to 885 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 22: jails in local jurisdictions and sheriffs whether they'll be willing 886 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 22: to detain some of these wanted criminal illegal aliens as well. 887 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 22: Now also Homan announcing that agents will focus on targeted 888 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 22: enforcements moving forward, public safety threats and national security interests. 889 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,720 Speaker 22: Our impression is that the agents will end those roving 890 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 22: patrols here. That's what sources were telling us prior to 891 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 22: Home's announcement the roving patrols. They were controversial because that's 892 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 22: when the agents can just drive around, pop out of cars, 893 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 22: question people ask for ID. But Homan did say today 894 00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 22: that if you've. 895 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 4: Entered the country, it's quote, never off. 896 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 22: The table for you to perhaps be questioned. Homan also 897 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 22: was asked about a new video that appears to show 898 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 22: Alex pretty in a heated class with ICE agents. 899 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again I walked away and we talked about 900 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 2: this earlier. You know, I walked away from that Homan pressure, 901 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 2: and not in a negative way, but I really thought 902 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 2: this was a this was a PR relations move. Nothing 903 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 2: was really changing regarding the mission. But you do have 904 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 2: circumstances where in individuals like Keith Ellison and Tim Walls 905 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 2: have caved a bit to what they were doing and 906 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 2: allowing some of the state patrol to get involved. The 907 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,720 Speaker 2: changes that were made there in the Fox News story 908 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 2: probably a little bit too detailed for your average insurgent 909 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 2: on the street to really care. Right, I think they're 910 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 2: still going to continue doing what they're doing. I'm not 911 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 2: saying they wouldn't get upset about it, but you know, 912 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 2: it's one of those more nuanced things, and I don't 913 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 2: think a majority of the protesters on the left right 914 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 2: now are really getting into the finer details of detainers 915 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 2: and turning people over. They just continue to express their 916 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 2: outrage addressing it specifically at ICE. 917 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to. 918 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 2: See, you know, if the Democrats, you know, do take 919 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,919 Speaker 2: any more heat for these changes that are being made. 920 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, this has been what the biggest pushback. 921 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 13: So the Democrats and Walls specifically were trying to create 922 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 13: this narrative that they're like, what are you talking about. 923 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 4: We hope people in prisons all the time. 924 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 13: And if you remember, the DLC Commissioner came out and said, no, 925 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,439 Speaker 13: this is what our standard state policy is. Now this 926 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 13: is where the nuance gets real murky because President Trump 927 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 13: and the DOJ and ICE and DHS, they're all specifically 928 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 13: referencing all of the county jails across Minnesota. And if 929 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 13: Wall said, no, all these county jails, you have to 930 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 13: do this through the Department of Corrections, that would be 931 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 13: the policy, and Walls has been pushing back against that 932 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 13: this entire time. And obviously when you look at Minneapolis, 933 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 13: you know, you know, Mayor Fi is like, Nope, we're 934 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 13: not gonna do your job for you. 935 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 4: But it's been common sense. That's been a practice that 936 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 4: was actually used by the. 937 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 13: Obama administration and by the Biden administration. They recently made 938 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 13: that change because they're trying to push back against Trump 939 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 13: whenever they can. But I do think that Tom Holman, 940 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 13: he's the guy that comes in and is like, guys, 941 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 13: you've been doing this for all this time, don't be absurd. 942 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 2: We got to take a break. I just want to 943 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 2: I want to go back for just a moment to 944 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 2: put a bit of a period on the conversation we 945 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 2: were having about the former guests on the show on 946 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 2: how things have changed. And it's kind of frustrating for 947 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 2: me that I didn't key in on it at the moment. 948 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,959 Speaker 1: But the change was Trump. The change was Trump and. 949 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 2: The party, the Democrat Party deciding to go down the 950 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 2: road of Hitler, fascists, Nazis. 951 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 1: That's where all that started. 952 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 2: I mean, that's exactly the moment when you wouldn't have 953 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 2: individuals on the show anymore willing to come on and 954 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 2: just have an open discussion and dialogue. That was the 955 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 2: wholesale change that just ended up shifting the trajectory. And 956 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,439 Speaker 2: since then they've only continued to reinforce and double down 957 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 2: on the fascism and fascist label against Republicans, against Conservatives, 958 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 2: and against Trump. 959 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: And one more point on this again. 960 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 2: You're talking about those ten years, and how old was 961 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 2: Alex pretty was in his thirties? 962 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's thirty seven. 963 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 1: Thirty seven. I think Renande Nicole Good was a similar. 964 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like thirty seven, thirty eight. 965 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 2: So you go back ten years, you know, these are 966 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 2: individuals in their twenties that are getting fed this going 967 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 2: back to the same thing happened with nine to eleven 968 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 2: and Bush is bad, and the and the young people 969 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 2: growing up in a world where all they knew was 970 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 2: post nine to eleven, Bush is bad. And now we 971 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 2: have exactly the same thing on a much more dangerous 972 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 2: and heated level with this. Republicans, Conservatives, Trump, they're all fascists, 973 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,919 Speaker 2: you know. And that's where that's where the change ended 974 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 2: up taking place. 975 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 13: And that's why I always say that the left's entire 976 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 13: goal is to steal power through narratives, and when they 977 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 13: see an opportunity, like they tried to do with Alex 978 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 13: pretty you had a lot of libertarians and people that 979 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 13: you know, I would say, are like center right in 980 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 13: our current political you know diagram that they were like, oh, 981 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 13: this is too far. You know, ice is overstep in 982 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,959 Speaker 13: the bounds. And that's the narrative they're trying to create 983 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 13: so they can grab more people and pull them to 984 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 13: their side. And there are some people that once they 985 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 13: take a position, they have so much pride in hubris. 986 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 13: This is a human sinful aspect. 987 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 4: You will not move. 988 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 13: You're gonna plant your feet firmly. Whereas me, I'm like, okay, 989 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,439 Speaker 13: I went too far. I will clearly say yep, my bad. 990 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 13: But a lot of people don't do that. 991 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: They have what's called the Trump derangement problem. 992 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 4: Have you heard about that problem.