1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: Busy night of college basketball. 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 2: Tonight's Xavier's playing a game that was supposed to be 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 2: played last night against Providence, and NKU is getting set 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 2: to take on Cleveland State. You can hear Norse Hoops 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports thirteen sixty tonight at seven o'clock with 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: Jim Kelch and Rick Brewing. Rick covers Xavior for Musketeer 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: Report dot com and he calls NKU games, So he's 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: going to be a very busy man tonight. He tells 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: us he's sitting in a dark hotel room in Cleveland. 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 2: Why why are the Norse staying in a hotel that 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: has no lights in the rooms? 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: So that's what's wrong with you? Well, do you have 13 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: to be like this a lot on man? 14 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 15 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: I mean it's it was. 16 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 4: That was a conversation about whether or not we were 17 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 4: going to stream this this conversation over the internet in 18 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: like a zoom format. So I was like, I don't know, 19 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 4: you know, if there's the proper lighting in this hotel 20 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 4: room for that? Gotcha, Okay, there are there are there 21 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: are working lights in the Cleveland Marriott. 22 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: Sure it's it's Cleveland. 23 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: Hell, I don't know, man far bing for me, I 24 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: just it was brought up to me that you're sitting 25 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: in a dark hotel room. Either the lights are off 26 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: and that's weird, or there are no lights and that's 27 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: weird too. 28 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: It's a gray and dark city. I will give you 29 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: that all right. 30 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: By the way, you're not the first guest to answer 31 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: my first question by asking what's wrong with me? 32 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 1: Either, So just f y, I should Xavier beat Providence tonight? 33 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: I don't know about should. 34 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 4: In fact, the predictive metrics would tell you Providence is 35 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 4: the favorite to win that game. But I would say 36 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 4: is the first time around, it looked like a pretty 37 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: good matchup for Xavier. You know, they were able to 38 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 4: It's the two fastest playing teams in the conference, so 39 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 4: it allowed Zavier to get out in transition and play 40 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 4: fast the way they like to play on the offensive end, 41 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: and they were hitting the threes, which Providence gives up. 42 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 4: But they were also able to get the ball inside 43 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 4: more often than they typically do and score in the paint, 44 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 4: and that's an issue Providence has too. They're just not 45 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 4: a very good defensive team and they continue to struggle 46 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: in that way since the first meeting between these two teams. 47 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: So it seems like it's a good match. 48 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 4: But the first game against Butler looked like a really 49 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 4: good notch up for Xavier at the Cinta Center, and 50 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 4: then I think the field House it didn't go their way. 51 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: They fell way behind and had to call their way 52 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: back and didn't win. 53 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: So we'll see how it goes. 54 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 4: They don't have a large margin for air in any 55 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 4: game in Big East play, but I do think it 56 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 4: sets up well for them to be competitive. 57 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: For sure. 58 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: Is Richard Patino going to coach Providence next year? 59 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: And I don't think so. No. 60 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 4: Now, I do think it's easy for people to just 61 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: push this off and yell at Jeff Goodman because no 62 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 4: one likes Jeff Goodman anymore. And all of that, I 63 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 4: do believe he's hearing something. Some of it may be 64 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: based on outdated info, but at the end of the day, 65 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 4: I think what ultimately stands out to me about the 66 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 4: situation is Xavier pretty much controls it. Richard Patino has 67 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 4: a pretty big buyout after only being here for one season, 68 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 4: and I mean, I don't think Providence going to afford 69 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 4: to pay a full buyout for him, also pay Kim 70 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 4: English's buyout to go away and pay your new coach's 71 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 4: salary and Richard Patino and give him nil money. 72 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: I mean, that's. 73 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 4: Just a crazy way to go up about business. And 74 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 4: by the way, you know, like Xavier, Well, I think 75 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 4: Xavier is excited about Richard Patino, and I think we've 76 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 4: talked about on the show how he's done a good job. 77 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 4: Xavior is going to finish under five hundred this year, 78 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 4: and they played the same conference as Providence. 79 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 3: So I don't know that that's the easiest sell in 80 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: the world to. 81 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: Say, like, hey, we've got to spend like thirty million 82 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 4: dollars to turn this thing around this year with a 83 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 4: guy who just went under. 84 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: Five hundred in the conference. 85 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: I just I think it was always a non starter 86 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 4: because of his biout and. 87 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: Xavier understanding Richard Patino's ties to Providence. Is Providence a 88 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: step up from Xavier, I. 89 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: Don't know that it's a step up, but I will say, 90 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 4: like this past season, they spent more money in Nil 91 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 4: and it is his alma mater, so I think he 92 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 4: would be willing to listen to them potentially if the 93 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: circumstances were different, or if Xavier wasn't upping their NIL significantly, 94 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 4: going forward, which everything I've heard that they intend to do, 95 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 4: they intend to take a significant jump that'll be almost 96 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 4: double what they spent last year in this year's upcoming 97 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 4: transfer portal. So those are you know, if those circumstances 98 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 4: were different, maybe he would be more interested in looking 99 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: for his first way out of town. But based on 100 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 4: what I've heard to this point, I think both parties, Richard, 101 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 4: Cristino and Xavier are excited about what's ahead this coming 102 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 4: spring and going into next year, and they're excited about 103 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 4: their future together. I just can't imagine under any circumstances 104 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 4: they're looking to move on after one year. 105 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it was. It was eyebrow raising and interesting 106 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: to talk about for sure. Rick Bororing Musketeer Report dot 107 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: Com has the call tonight NKU against against Cleveland State. 108 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: The Norse are nine and nine and in conference play, 109 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 2: and I think everybody was feeling really good after the 110 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: three consecutive wins, the victory over Purdue for Wayne, and 111 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: then things could not have gone worse offensively for the 112 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 2: Norse against Youngstown State. 113 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: What happened? 114 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, unfortunately for this group move. We talked 115 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: about the inconsistency sometimes and their best players don't always 116 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 4: seem to show up and play the same way as 117 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: they're capable of playing. I mean, they have these these 118 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 4: nights where they scored twenty five to thirty points and 119 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 4: then these other nights where you know, they're inconsistent, and 120 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 4: maybe that's why they ended up in the Horizon League 121 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 4: instead of the Big East or a higher level potentially. 122 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 4: But that's what really got to them in the Youngstown 123 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 4: State game. They just started that game and couldn't score 124 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 4: at all, even when they got good looks. They missed layups, 125 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 4: they missed wide open threes. They ended the first half 126 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 4: with just fifteen points. I mean, when you hold the 127 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 4: opposing team to thirty five points in the first half 128 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 4: and you're down by twenty, that's that's I mean, that's 129 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 4: just something went majorly wrong. And you know, they fought 130 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 4: their way back, they made it competitive, They had multiple 131 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: chances down the stretch to get back in and tie 132 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 4: that game, and just couldn't get over the hump late, 133 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: which is understandable when you have a twenty point. 134 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: Deficit at halftime. 135 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, now you're looking at likely going 136 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 4: on the road in the postseason for the first round 137 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 4: and it's really like you're playing for who's going to 138 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 4: be your matchup at this point, and I think, in 139 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 4: my opinion, you'd rather not travel to Green Bay would 140 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 4: be what I'd. 141 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: Be rooting against. 142 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 4: But I'm not sure with this year, the way that 143 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: the Horizon League has played out and the way it's 144 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 4: been so competitive and the standings have been so jumbled up, 145 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 4: I'm not sure that there's a huge difference between most 146 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 4: of these teams in the middle of the league. 147 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: The bracket for the Horizon League Tournament looks like the 148 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: family tree of somebody who has a lot of illegitimate kids. 149 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: When they came up with that format, what substances were 150 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: being consumed. 151 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 4: I've been told to not say as much about the 152 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: league office and the Horizon League Tournament and where it's held, 153 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 4: so I'll just tell you I don't know how they 154 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: came up with that idea, but I do think it's 155 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 4: going to be interesting to see what happens like the 156 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 4: four to five if that's who ends up in that 157 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 4: playing game on Sunday night for the right to play 158 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:57,559 Speaker 4: the one seed. 159 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 3: The one seed will have been waiting since the previous Wednesday. 160 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it will be off for almost a week 161 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 4: to play, and that four or five game. Like, again, 162 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 4: I don't think there's a ton of separation for anyone 163 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: in the conference this year. So that four or five 164 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 4: team coming off a Sunday night win going into. 165 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: The semi finals there, I think they've got a little 166 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: bit of momentum and a little bit of an advantage 167 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: on Monday night. 168 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: I remember being in the fourth grade and we had 169 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: a teacher who showed us what a tournament bracket was, 170 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: and it occurred to me many many, many, many, many, 171 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: many many years later. This guy was like like running 172 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: the schools like NCAA tournament office pool. This would have 173 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: been nineteen eighty seven, Key Smart beat Syracuse for Indiana 174 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: wins Bob Night his last national championship. If the bracket 175 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: for the Horizon League tournament this year would have been 176 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: what the teacher showed me, I think I would have 177 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: lost total interest in all sports. 178 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: That's fair. 179 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 4: The funny thing is when you started that story, I 180 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: thought you were going to say that your teacher had 181 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 4: a bunch of illegitimate kids. 182 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: Uh he may have, you know, for the lack of 183 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, we never got that deep. But it does. 184 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: It I'm still not even sure I understand who plays when, 185 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: and we haven't even seen the teams yet, but I'm 186 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: sure you'll offer a measure of clarity when we talk 187 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: next week. 188 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: Thank you as always. 189 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, tune into the pregame show. Me and Jim Kelt 190 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 4: will try to break it all down for you. 191 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: What you should do is add like a segment to 192 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: your postgame show and like just add a segment where 193 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: you kind of see the teams based on where they 194 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: are in the standings at that moment, and then sort 195 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: of unfold some of the scenarios in your postgame show. 196 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: Just maybe run that past gym for me. 197 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 4: Okay, we're going to get home at about three am 198 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 4: as it is. I don't think we need to extend 199 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 4: the postgame show any longer than we already have it. 200 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, all right, Well just an idea, Just throw 201 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: it at Jim and see what he says. 202 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: Thank you as always. 203 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 3: All right, Thanks. 204 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: Mom, that's uh. 205 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: Seriously, go to Horizon League dot org and look at 206 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: it's the Barbersol free plug for the shaving cream. The 207 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: Barbasol Horizon League Tournament. The ten and eleven seed play 208 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: against each other in the play in game, and then 209 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: they advanced to the first round, where they would play 210 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: the one seed. Then there's all the one, two, three, four, 211 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 2: there's five games on campus sites. The second round only 212 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 2: includes one game. It's the second worst first round winner 213 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: against the worst first round winner those two teams. The 214 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: winner of that game advances to play the best first 215 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: round winner. The other semi final would be the second 216 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 2: best first round winner and the third best first round 217 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: It's confusing, Like I get, we have like an odd 218 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: number of teams in the league. This shouldn't be that 219 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: hard to figure out. Horizon League making things more complex 220 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: than they need to. It's like if you put the 221 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals in charge of a conference tournament, this is 222 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: what it would look like.