WEBVTT - Live on Sunday Night with Bill Cunningham 10/5/2025 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.960 Portions of the Bill Cunningham Show may be pre recorded. 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:33.440 Willie brought you by Choice Hotels, Econo Lodge and Roadway 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.280 In Hotels are serving up double points for every qualifying 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:39.120 stay book at Choice hotels dot com. 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:42.600 Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best, 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.839 the recipient of not one, but two prestigious Marconi Awards 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:48.640 for his broadcast. 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:51.160 Exodens, the one and only Bill. 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.160 Cunningham, Billy Cunningham, the great American. Thanks for joining me 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.160 this evening. We had hoped, I think you had hoped 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:00.320 that somehow, by eight pm Eastern time tonight, a couple 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.120 hours ago, that there would have been some indication by 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:07.480 Hamas that they would accept the terms and release the 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.680 hostages that are alive and those that are dead back 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:14.080 to their families in exchange. Israel was prepared to release 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:18.800 about one thousand, one thousand terrorists back to Hamas. But 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.679 as we sit here now, it's still up in the air. 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.360 There's going to be more talks held tomorrow, I think 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:27.600 in Egypt, so we'll see what happens with that. If 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:29.240 it happens during the show tonight, you're going to be 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:31.840 first to learn about it. We'll see what happens. Secondly, 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:36.480 the absolute attack on law enforcement George Floyd style is 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.520 now happening in many major American cities that are completely 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:43.200 out of control. Portland, Chicago, Memphis. At the top of 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.479 the list. Washington, d C, according to the mayor, has 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.480 never been this calm and this good. When I speak 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.200 to a couple US Senators, so those who work in 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:54.920 and around the Capitol, what Donald Trump has done in 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.120 DC has been markedly better than what it was before. 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.320 In fact, it is safe to walk around Washington, DC 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.840 and haven't been there a few years. Don't intend to 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.280 go back for a while. But it works. Have law 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:11.440 enforcement present works. One of the saddest things happening is 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:16.399 the headline now in the Chicago Tribune. Chicago police sources 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:21.520 blast the apartment's response after officers were told not to 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:26.120 help federal agents that were being hemmed in by several 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:31.080 cars and protesters who became riders. On Saturday morning, federal 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:34.560 agents were rammed and trapped by ten vehicles where anti 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.880 ICE crowds had gathered for days. Nearly a dozen people 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:42.960 had been arrested that an app went out and the 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:49.160 federal law enforcement, the ICE officials requested assistance, and they 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:54.360 were told no and reviewed a computer aided to dispatch 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:58.000 messages sent to Chicago police by the Chief of Patrol. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:03.720 The message instructed Chicago police not to respond to the 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:07.040 ramming on the southwest side of the city in which 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.720 an armed woman was shot and agents were boxed in 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:14.600 and surrounded. Many Chicago police denied. Are extremely unhappy about this, 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:18.560 but it's the world on which we live. In the past, 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:22.960 when a app goes out, officer needs assistance, you drop 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.000 what you're doing and you run to the scene. You 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:30.239 save a fellow officer's life. In this case, the federal 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.280 law enforcement was put in risk of harm and death 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:37.320 and injury by these paid for mobs of left wing protesters, 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:43.760 and there was no help provided. And according to this statement, 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:49.160 the Chicago Police itself claimed that the officers failed to respond, 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.360 but they were sent to the scene to manage safety 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:57.840 and document the incident, so not to assist arrest the criminals. 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.440 Were rather to stand by and watch what's going on. 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.880 That's under the leadership of the mayor of Brandon Johnson. 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:07.880 I think now is approval ratings down to five or 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.600 six percent. Next year you have a chance in Chicago 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.520 to vote on that. It is sick and it's sad 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.520 because how many times if you're in law enforcement, if 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.640 you're in a highway patrol, if you're in US Marshall Service, 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:24.480 I FBI, City of Columbus, whatever city you're in, and 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:28.920 an officer says officer needs assistance, no matter what it is, 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.680 you drop what you're doing in your go for political reasons. 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:36.120 The leadership in the city of Chicago said no, and 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.760 they will respond to a scene that document what happens, 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.800 but they will not get involved. And this comes on 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.919 the heels of the comments this morning by Christy Noms 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:51.520 who appeared in Fox and Friends this morning. She said 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:59.080 cartels and other terrorist organizations terrorist organizations are placing bounties 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:03.560 on the heads of specific federal immigration agents in a 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.080 move she called dangerous and unpresident There are groups of 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:11.320 terrorist groups funded by many left wing groups and also 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:15.880 by China and by Iran, are offering two thousand dollars 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.719 for the capture of an ICE agent and up to 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:23.120 ten thousand dollars for a murder of an ICE law 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:27.120 enforcement official. She said, our intelligence in the case these 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.280 people are well organized. They're getting more and more brazen 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.080 as far as attacking police, and they're making plans to 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:38.080 ambush them and to kill them. Much of what happened 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.599 to Dallas, by the way, recall that one someone high 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:45.360 on marijuana smoked up who lived in the left wing 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:52.159 sewer of MSNBC CNN, shot into an ice van thinking 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:56.279 he would be killing police officers, but he actually killed 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.880 two and the other one just recently died two individuals 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:05.000 who were here illegally from Nicaragua. And now we have 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:11.000 evidence that these terrorist groups George Floyd style have put 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:14.440 bounties on the head of federal law enforcement. And she 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:18.400 said because it's an ongoing investigation, she didn't specify if 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.480 the agents were from a particular agency or multiple ones. 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.920 He said. She said, they're gangs, cartel members, and known 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:30.120 terrorist groups who are paid for by left wing organizations 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:34.280 inside of America but also by Iran and communist Red 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:38.080 China to cause problems in our major cities. This comes 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:41.240 on the heels of many attacks on federal law enforcement, 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.559 including a shooting at a Dallas ice facility that killed 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.919 a couple of detainees and injured others. So while this 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.400 is going Onnam also referred to the incident on Saturday 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:57.800 morning or during a protest, ten vehicles operated by terrorists, 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:02.760 not protesters. Terrorists boxed in federal law enforcement and ram 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:06.400 one of their vehicles. The officers inside could not move 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:11.400 their vehicles. They called out officers need assistance. Help. No 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.920 one showed up from the City of Chicago Police department. 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.640 An officer ended up firing a weapon, and a woman 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.280 who drove herself to the hospital. The armed woman was 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.960 named an a Customed and Border Patrol intelligence bulletin last 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:29.640 week for doxing agents and posting online certain epithets about 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:34.760 who they are, where they live, etc. So these are 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:38.360 the George Floyd riots all over again, in which large 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:44.800 multinational foundations George Soros and others fund large amounts of 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:49.320 money to groups these so called paid protesters, paid rioters, 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.400 and they get carried away with what they're doing, and 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:55.640 then officers are put at risk of being killed, and 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.480 of course is going to happen. It will happen. Now 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:02.800 I'm surprising it happened so far. She also has promised 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.520 Christy Nomas said that she's going to find out who's 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:11.440 organizing and paying for these don't call them protesters or demonstrators. 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.320 They're terrorists. Christian Noames that I was in Chicago two 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:19.120 days ago watching these terrorists and officers engage with them. 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.679 All the protesters are wearing the same gas masks, carrying 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.040 the same kind of signs. Many of them are printed 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.840 with the same font. You know that somebody is funding 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:32.040 the whole operation, and it's absolutely the truth. In fact, 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.600 I had on a guest a few months back that 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:39.120 has the ability. It's called protest on demand, and if 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.439 you google a protest on demand, it's right there. This 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.840 one large group. Actually they say we create out of 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.800 the box campaigns, audiences and events to make an impact 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:52.160 for our clients. These groups go on to say that 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.680 they're looking to create a buzz anywhere at Crowds on Demand. 0:08:56.280 --> 0:09:02.200 We provide clients with passionate demonstrators, rally flash mobs, corporate 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:06.200 PR events, and lighthearted events such as Papa Rozzi brand 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:11.200 ambassadors and PR stunts. They do not involve in violence, 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.959 is what they say, and I certainly believe that's the case. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:18.040 I don't think you are on the internet and you're 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.880 raising millions of dollars in order to create a crowd, 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:26.040 and this one group will have protest rallies and audiences, 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:31.000 events and fan interactions, protests, rallies and advocacy. You go 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:34.040 to the group, you have to pay millions of dollars 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.560 for several hundred and they're called out end mass with 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:41.959 loud speakers, dressed appropriately, handing out the signs, and some 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:45.360 of these hard left wing groups get very angry and 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.120 they start trying to kill police. If you live in 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.880 the left wing sewer, every now and then the lid 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.680 pops off, you you see it, you hear it, you 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.920 listen it, and you watch it, and someone's going to 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.839 be killed in law enforcement, and other have already been 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:04.080 killed by these so called some lone wolves and some 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:08.760 others that consider themselves to be part of some international 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.880 movement against the United States of America and against police. 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.920 And whether it's Gaza, whether it's Israel, whether it's Ukraine, 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.679 Communist Red China, the George Floyd crowd. They're out there 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:23.880 in the major cities, incentivized by Governor Pritzer, by the 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:27.719 mayors of major cities in Portland and Sacramento, in Chicago, 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:32.040 New York elsewhere, that this massive left wing, well funded 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:37.800 organizations will have protest demonstrators and terrorists on demand. And 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:41.120 what happened yesterday morning in Chicago was sickening and it's 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:45.440 so wrong, it's awful. So also I want to comment 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.160 briefly if we can, about what's going on in des Moines, Iowa, 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:53.880 with Ian Roberts by the way at DEI hire in 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.920 des Moines, Iowa, by the des Moines school Board to 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:02.080 educate thirty thousand kids in des Moines rifle Ripe, complete 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:05.640 with DEI programming up and down the list. And he 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.840 was a DEI higher I won't call him doctor. Seemingly 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.400 his doctor was a bunch of bs. And maybe his 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:15.280 college education which a bunch of bs. And now the 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.360 campaign of Jackie Norris, a woman who's on the school board, 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.800 she's chairman of the school board now in des Moines, 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.240 I guess their campaign for Senate next year is on 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.360 the rocks, so to speak, because she was the prime 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.240 candidate to take on whoever the Republicans who are put 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.040 up in the state of Iowa to run for Jony 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:36.559 Ernst's seat. And Jackie Norris is married to the Iowa 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:41.840 Democratic Party chairman his name is John Morris Norris and 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.320 their operatives, and she was the one in charge of 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:51.360 issuing statements, accepting ultimately the resignation. Originally he was put 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.240 on leave with pay, and then all the facts started 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.360 coming out. And if you're this stupid hiring someone like this, 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.320 the last place you should be is the United States Senate, 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:04.840 for God's sakes, and Homeland Security put out a laundry 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.480 list of the crimes that he's committed over the last 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:11.680 thirty some years, many involving drug use, possession of weapons, 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.360 second degree criminal possession of a weapon, third degree criminal 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:18.280 possession of a weapon, also in lawful possession of a 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.480 loaded firearm. For thirty years, Roberts moved in and out 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.880 of the country, working with various campaigns. If he could, 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:29.760 he traveled freely doing motivational speaking and teaching, and he 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.520 was not shy and trafficked in some prominent circles, running 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.880 in out of democratic power brokers. He was perceived as 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.800 the right kind of person to educate thirty thousand kids 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.040 in Iowa. It turned out the whole thing was a fraud. 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.439 The rap sheet in history of immigration fraud is extensive. 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:50.480 He lied, repeatedly, committed numerous offenses. Finally caught up with 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:54.160 him by twenty twenty four. Under the Biden administration, another 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.280 final deportation order was issued because of the crimes he'd 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.520 been committed and the fraud that he committed. Democrats in 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.880 des Moines, Iowa have egg on their face, shall we say, 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.280 they're a bit embarrassed by what happened. This wasn't someone 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:11.200 to do something relatively unimportant. His job was to educate 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.360 thirty thousand kids in the Des Moines public school system. 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.079 And I would note that a couple hundred walked out 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:20.440 in protest when he was finally fired for being a criminal. 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.040 That shows you the extent of DEI seeping into the 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:29.840 body body politic in Des Moines, Iowa. For goodness, goodness sakes, 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:33.560 you can't imagine this. And for a long time Jackie 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.920 Norris and other liberal Democratic members of the Des Moines 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:41.080 School Board covered for doctor Ian Roberts and said some 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:42.960 of these charges can't be true. They wanted to give 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.840 him grace. Well, instead of getting grace, he's going to 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.760 get a prison cell. He was wrongfully in possession of 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.880 loaded weapons, firearms, three thousand dollars in cash, hiding in 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.840 a grove of trees. That's the superintendent of schools. For 0:13:55.880 --> 0:14:00.959 God's sakes. So we got serious issues and one other 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:02.440 thing I'm going to bring up. I have a guest 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.760 later on this issue. So, in addition to left wing 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:10.600 groups having bounties on the head of ice officials doing 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.480 their job under the law, In addition to the fact 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.520 that big city police departments are the orders not to help, 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:21.160 think about that. Addition to all that, we have the 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:25.640 circumstances involving Charlie Kirk has raised its ugly head. I 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:30.680 saw a story that Charlie Kirk has his own security detail. 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:34.720 I played for you the last few Sunday nights comments 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:38.480 that Charlie made about what would happen if he was shot, 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.280 and we played that for you last Sunday night. No 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.640 need to play it again, but he said he would 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.560 look at the face of Jesus. And I'm going to 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:51.320 have on later Reverend Lucas Miles from Turning Point USA, 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.800 one of his close confidence confidence who has a book 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.360 out talking about what's happening in America today about paganism. 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:03.240 Taken over. Story I read deals with the fact that 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:07.040 Charlie Kirk and the security team was very concerned about 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:14.440 security at Utah University and that they were concerned about 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.760 the buildings that were one hundred and fifty to two 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.520 hundred yards away. The story I read, you know, the 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:23.720 Kirk security failings had drone technology. You put up a 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.640 drone and on your laptop or on your on your 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.840 cell phone, you can follow what the drone is videoing 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:33.360 on top of the buildings. One of these security personnel 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:38.440 for Charlie Kirk asked the officials at the college, you 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.640 know what about those buildings right there. Charlie's going to 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.360 be sitting on a high seat and he's going to 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.600 be sitting a little higher than the crowd, and there's 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:50.840 a clean line of sight to those buildings. And the 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:54.640 security personnel indicated that we have drone technology. We can 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.760 put up a drone for a couple hours and in 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.600 real time see if somebody's on top for the building. 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.440 In fact, there were three buildings had to be covered. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.520 One drone could cover all three buildings. So the drone 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.000 would have picked up someone running across the building with 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:14.640 a rifle. So let's take a short break. I'll continue 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:18.760 with this later and eight six six six four seven 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:43.440 seven three three seven Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night. 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.880 Now let's continue with more in Utah Valley University is 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:51.720 a great university that has grown markedly the past ten 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.040 or fifteen years, and they had about three thousand mainly 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:59.120 students were there. There was no metal detectors available, but 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:01.960 there was about twenty foot separation between the front of 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:05.120 the crowd and Charlie Kirk, and they had armed security 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:09.160 personnel left and right. I don't know if metal detectors 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.919 would have made any difference in this particular incident, certainly not. 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:17.359 But when I saw an interview with a retired Secret 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:21.040 Service agent Tim McCarthy, he was the one shot protecting 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:24.080 Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty one, he said he was 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:29.359 very surprised that the buildings were not covered because that's 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.320 where the risk is. So this one report said that 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:36.239 Utah Valley University security personnel said, we'll take care of that. 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.159 But the only way to take care of it is 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:41.080 to put a deputy on top of each of those buildings, 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:47.399 I would think, or secondly, to have a drone be 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.359 high enough to look at all three at little or 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.640 no expense to anybody. Times have changed, would you agree? 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:56.199 And I don't know. And then the idea that this 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.600 assassin whose name will never get in my head nor 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:04.119 leave my lips. Suddenly left the left the rifle to 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.800 be found a couple hundred yards away in a small, 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:09.800 little wooded area that was broken down in one sense 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.320 or another, and that was an old, old unit, might 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:16.080 have been as long as old as eighty years old, 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.520 and he left it to be found with his DNA 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.520 on it. Now, that is really stupid. Of course, a 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.000 lot of murderers are really stupid. I think what I'm 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:28.119 saying is there's lots of questions to be answered about 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:32.720 Charlie Kirk, and I'm confident that Dan Bongino, Deputy Director 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.159 of the FBI, is going to get them answered. I 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:38.959 believe that I trust Dan Bongino more than any person 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:43.119 in the FBI, including the leader. I trust Dan Bongino. 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:45.920 And if there's anything there there, I like to know it. 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:48.960 I like to know why the top of those roofs 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.520 were not covered, which would have taken little or no 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.359 time and money, and that was the obvious threat where 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:56.920 the threat was going to come from. All let's continue 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.480 with more and we'll have We'll take some calls in 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:01.760 the next hour or so. The number to call is 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:05.440 eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven. 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:11.160 Federal officials have requested local assistance when they're under assault 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:15.080 by terrorists inside the city of Chicago, and it was 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:19.880 denied same way in Portland, which is completely out of control. Oregon, 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:25.360 and now lawsuits are flying left and right at California 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.760 are going to send the National Guard to Oregon, and 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.560 Texas may send the National Guard to Illinois. Now the 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:34.560 judges will be back involved. What's wrong with public safety? 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:38.560 And why wasn't Charlie Moore protected Bill cunning into Great 0:19:38.560 --> 0:20:09.960 American with you every sing oh, let's continue whenever saw it, 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:14.280 We're simply continue. I'm just saying that Charlie Kirk, I 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:18.240 watched many of his videos, believed his life was in jeopardy, 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:23.159 and he related it publicly and privately. I'm going to 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:27.280 get killed. In fact, I played for cuts from you 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:29.639 about what's going to happen when you get shot, and 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:31.639 he related when he gets shot what he's going to do. 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:35.439 So in his mind, with his lovely wife, Erica, and 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:38.960 with his two little little babies, and with the idea 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:42.480 that my life is in danger, I have so many 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:46.240 death threats it's unbelievable. And you see the violence against 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:50.160 turning point USA on college campuses. Even now at Tennessee 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:55.200 State it's happening repeatedly. Violence is occurring. And he had 0:20:55.240 --> 0:21:00.639 security guards that were pretty good retired law enforcement, and 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:04.679 so they wanted to have metal detectors, but that's not 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:08.800 possible at Utah Valley University. It's an open air campus, 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:11.520 be very difficult to do that. So they created a 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.480 boundary at which no one could get this side, at 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.960 least the security the armed security officers on either side 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:21.879 of Charlie Kirk. If somebody close inside would take a 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:24.119 shot at him, they would have a clear line of 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:28.480 sight to see the person and respond appropriately. And Charlie 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:32.199 was told by some you ought to get some bulletproof glass, 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:34.240 put it in front of you, and Charlie said, I 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:36.159 can't operate like that. I don't want to do that, 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:39.240 he said, my hands are My life's in the hands 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:43.520 of the Lord anyway. Absolutely, and the Lord permits ugly 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:47.040 things to happen to good people because individuals evil ones 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:52.200 like the assassin, has free will. And so the security 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:55.840 guard in that guard. According to one news story, I 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:58.639 saw got there, looked up and saw the rooftops of 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.560 those buildings where they perfect line of site right to 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:05.080 Charlie Kirk, and so we have to get those buildings covered. 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:09.679 And according to this media account, the police at Utah 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:13.879 Valley University said, we'll take care of it. Thinking, okay, 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:15.480 you have a cop on top of the building and 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:18.480 each one a line of site directly one hundred and 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:20.359 it wasn't two hundred yards. It was about one hundred 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:25.240 and sixty yards away with a scope and it wasn't done. 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:28.560 Why wasn't it done? I have no idea. After what 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:31.199 happened in Butler County, Pennsylvania, I would think that'd be 0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:35.399 after you have some sort of twenty foot barrier away 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:38.800 from then guards right there looking at the crowd. The 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:42.119 next area of concern would be the top of those buildings, 0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:45.240 and you could easily see if drone technology was available, 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:49.080 which the Charlie Kirk organization has, that could put a 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:50.919 drone in the air and watch all three top of 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:54.480 the buildings. Somebody running across with a rifle likely would 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:58.280 have set off alarms. Do you agree, at a minimum 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:01.119 have other security guards on top of the building with 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:04.480 a nice chair to watch what's going on. And it 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:08.000 didn't happen, so you can look back in time, what 0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:10.199 could have happened, what should have happened or might have happened. 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:13.080 I know what did happen this media report. I saw 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:16.480 the security personnel for Charlie said we got to get 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:19.160 those buildings covered, and the police said we'll take care 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:23.200 of it, and somebody didn't. I'm sure lawsuits whatever down 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:25.160 the road will be found by somebody at some point. 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:29.600 We'll see what happens. Let's continue. But summer is over 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:33.080 and it's now fall more or less. Although in Cincinnati 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:35.520 feels like it's eighty five degrees going to be loose 0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:38.160 twenty five degrees the next two days. That's a different issue. 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:41.760 But the cities are broiling because the mayors and the 0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:45.159 governors in blue cities and blue states will not support 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:48.439 law enforcement. Look at the status of Chicago, Look at 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.680 the status of the water tire and the Magnificent Mile. 0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:53.600 Look at the status of Michigan Avenue. Look what's happening 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:57.080 in Portland. It looks like a third world city. Homelessness, 0:23:57.160 --> 0:24:00.560 drug use abounds. And my beautiful little city of sins Cincinnati, 0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.840 we have shootings every night. We have a out of 0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:06.760 touch mayor. Completely have to have pureval as the guy's name. 0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:09.520 He has no clue what's going on. He say how 0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:12.359 safe the city is, and it's not. But Cincinnati is 0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:15.080 about ten years behind New York and Land. The way 0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:19.400 to secure the cities are the high local law enforcement 0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:24.640 along with the National Guard as appropriate. And we'll see 0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:27.320 what happens. But now we're told now according to the 0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:31.480 story on Fox News, that some of the terrorist organizations 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:34.440 that put bounties on the head, bring me the head 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:38.240 of dead ice officers or others. According to Christy nome 0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:41.640 tooth and kidnappings are going to be popular to kidnap 0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:44.879 some money, but with ice and the mayor of Chicago 0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:48.119 and the governor has ordered that its law enforcement not 0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.560 assists federal law enforcement. That's where we are. Let's continue 0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.160 in your calls. Number to call is eight sixty six 0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:57.600 six four seven seven three three seven. And my first 0:24:57.680 --> 0:24:59.600 guest in about thirty minutes or so is going to 0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:04.119 be the Reverend Lucas Miles, a Turning Point, USA, a 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:07.560 close confident of Charlie Kirk and Erica. His new book 0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:10.639 is out Pagan Threat dealing with the school systems and 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:14.280 elsewhere in law enforcement. And certainly this is very appropriate 0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:18.159 so let's continue with Alex in Wisconsin and then Edward 0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:20.760 and Tampa Bay number to two. We have three lines 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.159 open if you call now eight six six six four 0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:27.000 seven seven three three seven. Alex in Wisconsin, Welcome to 0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:28.720 the Bill Cunningham Show. And Alex, how are you? 0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:31.040 I am doing good? 0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:33.240 How are you doing doing well? Doing well? I think 0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:36.119 we have issues. I think we've got problems. Hopefully we're 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:36.840 going to work for right. 0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:41.240 Yeah. Yeah, And that's one of the things that I 0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:44.359 was calling the boat in. And it's not just in 0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:49.200 big cities, billets, everywhere that the crime rate's just gotten horrible. 0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:57.119 And the issue is, isn't law enforcement incentivized now not 0:25:57.240 --> 0:26:00.320 to arrest people, to look the other way? Isn't that true? 0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:02.280 Yeah? 0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:03.640 And I think it's messed up. 0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:07.560 Yeah, Well, tell me your experiences there in Wisconsin. You 0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:10.400 live in a small town, give me your experiences. 0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.480 And the really crazy part too, is the police stations 0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:21.159 right by my hopes and the crime rate in the 0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:27.879 city that I live in is just it's crazy. And 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.080 the fact that the police station's right there, it doesn't 0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:31.880 really matter, It doesn't even make a difference. 0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.760 Do you think the police are incentivized not to arrest 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:38.560 criminals because the political the political leadership doesn't want that 0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.399 to happen. I'll give you my example. In Cincinnati. We 0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:44.879 used to have an effective Cincinnati Police department one thousand officers. 0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:47.240 They're down to about nine hundred. It should have a level, 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.000 so we're down twenty percent. And the cops are told 0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:53.280 by the mayor and others don't pull people over for 0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:57.440 traffic violations like speeding or reckless operation because you have 0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:00.359 to find out you get you show me your life license, 0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:04.160 proof of insurance registration. It opens up at Pandora's box 0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:06.840 of other stuff. So we put speed bumps all over 0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.840 all over town because cops are told don't pull people over. 0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:14.040 We have large numbers of individual individuals illegally smoking marijuana 0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.399 all over the city of Cincinnati and drug use. We 0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:18.720 have about a thousand homeless doing all kinds of bad 0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:22.120 stuff and the arrest don't take place because the mayor 0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.199 and city council doesn't want it to happen. And the 0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:28.200 same thing is true in Chicago. Being a Chicago cop 0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:30.359 under Brandon Johnson's got to be a joke. 0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:34.680 Well, and you want to know what's really scary too, 0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:40.800 is I'm completely blind. I can't even imagine, do you 0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.640 knowify myselfs. 0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.639 Yeah, well, Alex, I say, I'm going to say a 0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:50.000 prayer for you tonight and that somehow sanity must be 0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:52.840 returned to the people of Wisconsin, the people of America. 0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:56.080 Let's continue. Let's continue now with Thomas and the great 0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.720 state of Florida. Thomas and Florida. Welcome to the Bill 0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:02.320 Cunningham Show. Thomas Ower, I'm good, sure. 0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:02.720 How are you, sir? 0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.919 I'm a big fan of truck travery right now. I 0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.439 was just mildly concern was you know again, I know 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.000 what the security with Charlie Kirk is that you know, 0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.879 we have a we have a code gush truckers safety first, 0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:16.280 and you know, I just thought that, you know, his 0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.680 life might have been spared if there was more precautions, 0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.800 like if the roof wasn't confirmed that they were secured, 0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:24.720 you know, he should have never been out in public. 0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:25.920 I don't know, I does that make any sense, like 0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.240 he should have never been if there was any doubt 0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:30.400 at all, if these guys would have combed the roof 0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.240 or went above and beyond. Does that make any sense 0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:33.480 to me? 0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.960 Yeah? Well, you know, I read this story. They want 0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.280 They wanted the roofs covered, and they were told by 0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:44.120 their local police, we will cover the roof. Now, if 0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:47.760 I'm one of the security guards, and I love Charlie Kirk, 0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:51.240 and I know Erica, and I know his I know 0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.040 his kids. I know he's got a concern about getting shot. 0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:58.640 And I'm looking around that event. Where am I looking. 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:01.160 I'm I'm looking twenty feet in front of me. Yes, 0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:04.400 right there. But then you know you can you can 0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.960 get eyeballs and those twenty people and you're armed in there. 0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:11.200 That's a problem. I get. I get not having a 0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:15.000 metal detector on a college campus. I get that. However, 0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:19.120 those roofs after Butler County, Pennsylvania should have been covered 0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.680 by somebody, and why they weren't. I want to hear 0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:25.160 more about this because there's other people appearing in public 0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:27.800 that you know, yours truly is going to be at 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.680 some turning point event in a public area, and I 0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:33.000 like to look around and see if the roofs are covered. 0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:35.520 The roofs have got to be covered, and they weren't, 0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.840 and they were, and Charlie's guys were told we'll take 0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:39.360 care of it. 0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:41.480 That's a massive sir, that's the sage. 0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:42.720 If they weren't covered. 0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:44.120 Why would Charlie go out there? Why would they let 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.560 him out if they couldn't confirm that the roofs won't 0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:48.360 carve right like you would think he would do a 0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.120 last minute sorrow check. No, the roof's not covered, you're 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:54.120 not going out there, and just you know, insist, no, Charlie, 0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.160 you're not going out. We can't come it. We don't 0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:57.680 know if the roofs are covered, you can't go by 0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.960 what right with? Other people are saying, okay, well we're 0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:02.840 going to provide the security for you, right. Does that 0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:03.240 make sense? 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:08.080 Yes? I watch. I watched the twenty minutes, the first 0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:11.640 twenty minutes, and once I watched the actual bullet hitting 0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:15.040 his throat and he was a sitting duck under that 0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:22.520 tent from those roofs, and I just think was it 0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:25.040 was it a lone wolf who didn't know what he 0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:30.400 was doing, radicalized by his life, using his grandpa's rifle, 0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:32.560 he kept it in an area that was going to 0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:35.160 be found. Why does an assassin do that? I have 0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:38.000 no idea. Why did Lee Harvey Oswald leave behind the 0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:41.920 gun at the six floor? I don't know why criminals. Sure, 0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.960 I don't know why that's the case, but Thomas, I'd 0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:49.040 like to have a more thorough investigation. I like to 0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:54.040 have Dan Bongino and FBI Director Patel and others say, 0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.120 at some point, Okay, it's been my gosh, I can't 0:30:57.120 --> 0:30:59.959 believe it's been almost thirty thirty days, but we are 0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:03.880 to have some indication happened September September tenth. We got 0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:08.120 to have some indication that we're gonna investigate this thing. 0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:12.080 We're gonna find out what happened, how it happened, why 0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:15.120 this event take place, to teach us how to handle 0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:19.080 other events. I mean, in the Kennedy assassination, the idea 0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.800 of a president riding through a major city with no 0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:25.920 bubble up and waving at people like John F. Kennedy 0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:29.000 and Dealey Plaza until that happened, That happened all the time. 0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:32.240 I can see pictures of him in Ireland and thousands 0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:36.000 of people, and put him in a situation where if 0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:39.000 somebody wanted to assassinate him, it was obvious there's John F. 0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:43.360 Kennedy's head right there. And after what happened in Butler County, Pennsylvania, 0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:47.760 I would like to think that an area one hundred 0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:51.200 and fifty yards away with a perfect line of sight 0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:54.760 to Charlie Kirk. It's something I like to have somebody 0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:59.000 tell me FBI Director Patel or Dan Bongino or somebody 0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:03.000 Cash is to say, you know what, we're investigating this thing, 0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:08.640 and it is everything we're being told accurate that somehow 0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:12.200 this kid who was radicalized by the sewer of left 0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:16.520 wing politics, who was shall we say, dating or living 0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:20.440 with a transsexual, a transgender individual who hated Charlie Kirk. 0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.480 Because by the way, Charlie Kirk had love in his 0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:28.440 heart for everyone. Race create made no difference. I've watched it. 0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:33.640 I watched him perform often with African Americans, with gay individuals, transgender, 0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:36.160 whatever it is, love in his heart for everyone. It's 0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.000 a lie that he was anti Semitic, or that he 0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:40.800 was anti black or and I gay, whatever it might, 0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:44.120 it was a lie. And I just like to have 0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:47.480 Cash Ptell or Dan Bongino at some point say we're 0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:50.400 going to conduct a thorough investigation, which they've done now 0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:54.160 with the assassin, But what happened that allowed that assassin 0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:57.200 to be on the roof. What happened in Butler County, PA. 0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:01.080 That allowed that attempt at assassin to be in that position. 0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:06.760 And for the last long since what last August, that 0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:11.560 story is dead as a doornail. How did it happen? 0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:14.600 How did you get the weapon? There's been no reporting 0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:16.840 on it at all. And now I use the term 0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:21.479 our guys are involved. Our guys are involved. Let's take 0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:23.680 a short break. I think the next call might be 0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:27.160 from Russia. So we're gonna get to Russia find out 0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:29.200 what the feeling is. Plus, I want to set up 0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:32.160 the rest of tonight's big show. Bill Cunningham, the Great 0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:52.360 American with you every Sunday night. All right, Now, we 0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:54.680 don't get a lot of calls from Moscow, I mean Russia, 0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:58.680 Bob and Moscow, Russia. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. 0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:00.560 Didn't you call me about a year ago? Year or 0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:00.960 two ago? 0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.360 Ps year or two ago? And I'm still here. I 0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:09.000 have a I'm a Catholic also, and I have everything 0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:15.279 that's going on with I'm Charlie Kirk, Donald Trump. All 0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:18.040 this all started with Pope John the Second when he 0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:23.359 was shot, same situation. He loved the people, took care 0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:26.399 of the not the rich, the wealth, He's took care 0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:29.600 of all people. His shooting is the same thing that 0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:32.400 happened with Donald Trump shooting is the same thing that 0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:36.640 happened with Charlie kirk shooting. They're trying to eliminate. 0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:40.000 People that actually care about. 0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:43.640 The world in the United States, and they're all similar situations. 0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:46.920 They're all tied together, no security. 0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:51.680 Yeah, it's amazed that someone could get one hundred and 0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.759 fifty yards away from Donald Trump in the summertime of 0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:57.120 twenty twenty four with a claire shot at his head. 0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.359 And the only reason the trump Ster lives is that 0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.800 he went to tarned to the right, which you seldom 0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:03.759 did that early, to look at a chart and that 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.120 saved his life. By the way, can you tell me 0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:09.560 the status of living in Russia today? I read things 0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:12.840 like long lines for gasoline. There's a little bit of 0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:16.760 bubbling uncertainty about Vladimir boutin Russia, maybe in the virtue 0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:19.360 of collapse. Do you feel comfortable talking about that. 0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.520 I can talk something, but first of all, I want 0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:26.719 just to finish up with what we're talking about with 0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:31.480 what one with Charlie Kirk. What is the similarity between 0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:36.239 the shooting of Charlie Kirk and the shooting of John 0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:37.399 Paul the Second. 0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.880 Well, you tell me one was a bulgarian or something 0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:45.520 who hated what John Paul the second student, No, no. 0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:50.960 No, Charlie Kirk's wife forgave the man. John Paul the 0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:53.040 Second for gave the man. 0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.040 In fact, he met with that, he met with him. 0:35:55.600 --> 0:36:00.000 That's what believing in gotda being a true catholicus you forget, 0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:01.640 you know, it's very hard. 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.560 Well, the Christ forgave the thaif on the cross next 0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:08.359 to them, he forgave him tonight. And so John Paul 0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.279 the Second when I got out of the hospital, met 0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:14.319 with that bulgarian and forgave him. And Erica Kirk two 0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:17.960 days after the event, having just kissed her husband's forehead 0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:22.239 when they shut the coffin, forgave the murderer of her husband. Now, 0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:22.919 how about that? 0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:23.640 And that? 0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:28.120 And that's what a true believer in God and faith 0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.920 and the Lord Jesus Christ does. But getting back to Moscow, 0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:36.080 the only places there's lyes for gasoline are just like 0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.279 what happens in the United Stits in California, I'm sure 0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:41.840 because of the refinery's burning there right, there's could be 0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:46.080 lyings in Gasolina type for Gasolina type because when he 0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:49.919 cut off supply at some point, there's could be lyings. 0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:54.320 Everything's gotten more expensive, just like in the United States. 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:56.760 But part of the reason why I'm here is because 0:36:56.880 --> 0:37:02.040 my healthcare in the European healthcare system that's available over 0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:06.000 here that's not available in the United States. Medicines from 0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:11.480 Germany are so much cheaper. I paid one. I'm sixty 0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:15.040 three years old. I paid one five hundred dollars a 0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:22.920 year for full coverage of healthcare, private coverage, without coverage 0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:23.560 for medication. 0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.120 Well, what about living in a communist country with Vladimir 0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:29.640 pot and you just keep your head down and don't 0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:31.800 say anything bad about the government. 0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:36.160 Actually, if you haven't lived in a foreign country or 0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:40.600 lived here, I actually have more freedom here to speak 0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:44.759 about Christianity or walk. And I'm sixty three years old. 0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:48.440 There's not a place in Moscow right now than I'm 0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:50.840 not afraid to walk it in the evening or at 0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:54.640 night by myself. So there's pros and cons of both countries. 0:37:55.480 --> 0:38:02.120 I mean the governments are different, yes, but things are 0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:05.120 more straightforward here right now than they are in America. 0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:08.240 I mean, you go to a pro sporting event. In America, 0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:12.120 half the people are drunk. Now, you go to a pro, 0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:14.880 go to a you go to a pro sporting events. 0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.720 Here in Russia, no alcohol is service. 0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.120 We have to run. Call me back in a few months. 0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:23.520 But I would not want to live in the communist country, 0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:26.920 no matter any circumstances. Although there are elements of safety 0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:30.640 there that aren't existing here. But I'm an American, Bob, 0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:32.719 thanks for calling me. Coming up, We're going to put 0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:35.680 a call into the Reverend Lucas Miles re Turning Point, USA. 0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.319 Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday. 0:38:38.080 --> 0:39:13.000 Now, Willie Brock You by Choice Hotels Econo Lodging Roadway 0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:15.800 in Hotels are serving up double points for every qualifying 0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:16.839 stay book at. 0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:18.680 Choice Hotels dot com. 0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:22.160 Now he was the man who's been recognized as radio's best, 0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:26.360 the recipient of not one but two prestigious Marconi Awards 0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:28.839 for his broadcast excellence. 0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:31.240 The one and only Bill Cunningham. 0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:34.360 I Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, on September 0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:36.760 the tenth, a terrible event took place. Some have compared 0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:39.440 to the Kennedy assassinations of Martin Luther King Jr. That 0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:43.160 is the murder of Charlie Kirk in Utah. It was 0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:47.160 incredibly It broke about quarter to three Eastern time, a 0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:49.319 flash across the screen. I was on the air when 0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:53.480 it happened, and talk about a shock. And here we 0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:55.400 are three or four weeks later and still having a 0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:59.200 process exactly the impact of this janan you and on 0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.400 alis Pastor Lucas Miles, he's the senior director of Turning 0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:06.279 Point USA Faith and best selling author. Book is out 0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:09.640 of brand new one which is Pagan Threat Confronting America's 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:13.480 Godless Uprising. And Reverend Miles, welcome, I think for the 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:15.799 first time to the Bill Cunningham Show before we talk 0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.279 about your book, which is number one everywhere. I think 0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:20.799 it'll double and triple and sales says the work gets 0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:24.000 out even more. Can you talk about where you were 0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:27.120 when you learned that Charlie had been murdered and the 0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:28.600 impact on his organization. 0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:32.600 Yeah, I was actually out of the country when I 0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:37.440 got the news. We'd had a very busy you know, 0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:41.040 obviously last eighteen months or so with my role there 0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:43.400 at TPUSA Faith, and I had talked to Charlie and 0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:46.920 told him, I said, hey, we're looking taking vacation He's like, yeah, absolutely, 0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:50.120 go just get away, just shut everything down and just 0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:52.920 you need that time. And my wife and I were 0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:57.080 down in Arubo with another dear couple friend of ours, 0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:59.560 and my assistant had told me, he said, I'm not 0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.680 only going to call you if something major happens. And 0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:05.480 I'm sitting by the pool down there, middle of our 0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:07.120 trip and I see the phone ring and my heart 0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:09.319 just sank. I knew right away something was wrong. He 0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:11.120 told me Charlie had been shot. We don't know how 0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:15.040 bad it is. Start getting home now, and we weren't 0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:16.440 able to get a flight for the next day, and 0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:19.479 it's it's just been NonStop since then. 0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:23.000 Lucas Miles, why did you have that feeling? Were you? 0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:26.279 Were you foretold? Was it predicted? I've seen some of 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:29.680 the YouTube clips about Charlie Kirk talking about his death. 0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.839 Not too many thirty one year olds talk about their death. 0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:34.360 Why'd you have that pit in your stomach? 0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:36.120 You know? 0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:38.000 I just knew I was only going to get a 0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:40.640 call if something was wrong. Otherwise my assistant would have 0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:42.360 emailed me, he would have sent me a message on 0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:44.840 telegram to look at later. But when I saw the 0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:47.360 phone ring, I knew it wasn't good. Now, I didn't know, 0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:50.279 you know, it wasn't my wildest imagination that that was 0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.440 going to be what the call was. But I just 0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:56.600 knew something was problematic at a higher level at that point, 0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:00.319 and you know, it just didn't seem real. It still 0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:04.080 doesn't seem real, honestly. It's just, you know, you kind 0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:07.520 of go back and forth between that grief and denial, 0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:10.040 and I just want to text Charlie and ask him, 0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:11.640 you know, what does he think about all this, you know, 0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:12.600 or what do we do next? 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:12.759 You know? 0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:14.880 And so I think all of our staff is kind 0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:16.640 of going through that process. But I'll tell you what, 0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:19.520 there is such a spirit of resolve over the whole 0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:24.160 team at TPUSA. Charlie was such a great leader. He 0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:26.600 laid out an action plan for a really long time. 0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:30.560 There's you know, Erica, you know, everybody is. She's just 0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:33.680 been a stabilizing force for the whole organization. And so, 0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:36.040 you know, we're filled with grief, but there's a lot 0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:39.239 of work to do, and in Charlie Kirk fashion, we're 0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:41.239 getting up and we're going back to work. And we 0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:42.920 got a country and a world to. 0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:46.920 Save here and without America. The world has lost this 0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:50.959 submission of Charlie Kirk's beginning about thirteen or fourteen years ago, 0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:54.360 was impossible to go on college campuses. I've seen hundreds 0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:56.839 of hours of YouTube clips of what happens to them 0:42:56.840 --> 0:43:00.439 on college campuses. He wins almost every argument because he right, 0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:03.000 what are some of the threats? What do you diagnosis 0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:06.279 and threats we face as America. 0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:08.239 Yeah, So in my book pagan Threat, one of the 0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.480 things I try to bring people's attention to, and whately 0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:12.960 the thesis of it is this is that you know, 0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.880 by and large, paganism as a whole was dead. 0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:16.400 GK. 0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:20.239 Chesterton said so himself. But the problem with paganism is 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.680 it tends to resurface periodically. And so what is happening 0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.560 now is in order for a Marxist agenda to be 0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:31.720 able to thrive in America, America, Americans have to forget 0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.440 their Christian worldview. We have to forget our roots. We 0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:36.880 have to, you know, so you have to tear down statues, 0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.280 you have to you have to wipe away the memory 0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:43.040 of any sort of history that points to Christ or 0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:45.719 our Christian founding. And so in order to do that, 0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:50.120 they're thrusting this paganism onto our youth of today. You know, 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:53.600 everything from witchcraft, a sorcery, to the occult to you know, 0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:55.960 it's in movies, it's in TV, it's in pop culture, 0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:59.280 it's in music. And they're just trying to change the ethos, 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:03.879 the the moral standard in America because if they can 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:07.120 do that, and they reduce the value of human life 0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:11.400 that the Christian worldview promotes, then they can actually institute 0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:13.200 a Marxist takeover this nation. 0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:17.440 You talk about abortion on demand, including the abortion pills, 0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:21.840 talk about ubiquitous crime everywhere. The presidents finally sent in 0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:25.120 some federal troops to Portland and the Memphis to tamp 0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:28.160 it down. You talk about what's happening on college campuses 0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:31.720 relative to the indoctrination to the left, and it almost 0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:36.520 seems insurmountable. And at this point I worried that after 0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.840 Charlie was murdered on September the tenth, that the movement itself, 0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:43.359 after three to six to nine months would dissipate, that 0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:47.560 the leaders such as yourself, pastor Lucas Miles, would find 0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:50.759 other events, other things would happening. We're not quite a 0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:54.359 month out. What is your feeling looking back as far 0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:58.280 as planning the next several years. So the messenger was murdered, 0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:01.279 but the message must live in a structural way. He 0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:04.000 was the rock star. He was a Paul McCartney of 0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:06.200 the Beatles, you know, he was Elvis. He was the guy. 0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:08.759 And when you lose that kind of a messenger Martin 0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:11.959 Luther King Junior type, it's really difficult to find Ralph 0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:14.640 Abernathy to take his place. In fact, no one ever could. 0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:17.080 Do you have a concern looking back in five years, 0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:19.719 those five years ago by quickly as the last five 0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:22.280 years have gone by. Why do you have such confidence 0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:25.080 that this movement will not die with the messenger having 0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:27.200 been killed, but the message must live. Why do you 0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:27.640 say that? 0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:30.200 You know, I think there's a couple of things we 0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:33.040 have to look off look at. So, first off, when 0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:36.279 it comes to turning point, USA, Charlie, build a really 0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:39.960 strong bench, our board, our contributors, our c suite level 0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:42.920 team members. Now having Erica as CEO, we are in 0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:46.480 a really strong position. Our donors are committed. I think 0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:49.719 the nation is behind us, our churches are committed to 0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:52.120 working with us, and so there's a lot of unity 0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:55.480 and structure there to be able to sustain this for 0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:59.040 years to come. And we have so much of Charlie's content. 0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:03.280 Although he has gone from this earth in a physical sense, 0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:05.680 his voice is going to ring out and we're going 0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:08.680 to make sure of it for literally decades and decades 0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:12.000 to come, and so that every you know, he's immortalized 0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:14.319 now in the sense that you know, he's forever young, 0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:16.320 his voice is going to stay that way. The difference 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.080 between some of these other movements we've seen in the past, 0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:21.200 with MLK and others, is that, you know, we didn't have, 0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:24.359 you know, hundreds of thousands of hours of four K 0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:27.680 video content with three different angles to be able to 0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:31.160 really share the heart. So Charlie is still speaking today 0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:34.200 all over the Internet and that's going to continue. I 0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:36.880 think additionally, when it comes to revival, that component of it, 0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:39.480 you know, God brings revival. This is something we can't 0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:42.160 just fabricate, but I think that we can help stewart it, 0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:44.640 and so we're working with our churches and that's really 0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:47.320 my primary role is working with churches across the country 0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:50.839 to help stewart this season of revival. My own church 0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:53.360 has doubled in attendance during this timeframe. I've gotten that 0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:56.040 same message from so many other pastors across the country. 0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:58.719 There's a move of God happening right now, and I think, 0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:01.000 you know, we just we can't Charlie Kirk. I'm never 0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:02.759 going to be Charlie Kirk. Nobody else is ever going 0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:04.400 to be Charlie Kirk. I just want to be the 0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:06.719 best Lucas Miles that I can in my generation to 0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:09.040 fulfill what God. You know, He's always on my life. 0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:11.600 Reveren, if you can talk about the lost white male, 0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:14.279 I've seen all the reports the studies had on a 0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.120 guest from The New York Times a couple months ago 0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:21.480 about the lost white male who finds himself disconnected, disjoin it, 0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:25.120 has no personal relationships, someone lost in the world of 0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:28.480 porn or lost in the world of gaming. The murder 0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:31.319 of Charlie Kirk seemingly was lost in both worlds. He 0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:34.279 was a young man. You have pictures of young men 0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:38.720 that have created caused many of these disasters, political assassinations. 0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:42.760 You have the event Mormon Church Later Day Saints fifty 0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:46.040 miles north of Detroit being leveled to the ground. And 0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:48.640 that guy was like thirty nine or forty years old. 0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:52.440 But he had brain difficulties. How do you address yourself 0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:55.759 to the lost to white male who feels as if 0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:59.799 he lives in a toxic male oriented society. Male toxicity 0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:03.920 is everywhere. I watched Charlie Kirk's response to the to 0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:07.200 the toxic mail and it was a beautiful response. But 0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:10.480 can you address yourself to the lost white male? 0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:12.440 Yeah? 0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:15.239 Absolutely, So, you know what we're seeing right now is that. 0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:18.040 And I think it's important to recognize across this entire generation, 0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:21.359 and this would go for probably millennials as well as 0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:23.800 gen z is there is a tremendous amount of trauma 0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:27.960 that these generations have endured and sustained, you know, and 0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:30.319 you've got to remember, at forty years old, that individual 0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:33.480 is a millennial, right, you know, the older millennials are 0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:35.400 forty years old now, and so you know, in the 0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:39.120 case of the Mormon shooting and so the you know, this, 0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:41.800 this is what's it, you know, contributed by starts with 0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:45.080 nine to eleven, multiple wars in the Middle East. We 0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:47.160 have things like that, you know, Columbine and the rise 0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:49.600 of school shootings. At the same time, you have this 0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:53.799 increase of the digital footprint, video games, dark places in 0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:56.759 the internet, chat rooms and forums, you know, places to 0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:59.440 explore and you know kind of get into all these 0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:01.959 emotional things that people are feeling that turn very dark 0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:05.239 oftentimes you have you know, combined with that, we see 0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:10.200 the rise of gender ideology transcault, We have COVID, We 0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:12.400 have the isolation that was experienced a lot of these 0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:15.600 younger people. They missed prom they didn't get to date anybody, 0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:17.440 they didn't get to you know, run around with their 0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:20.560 car and you know, with friends and hang out. There 0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:22.400 was isolation. They were stuck in their house, they were 0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:25.319 doing school by video, and there's ramifications of that. We 0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:27.600 were all warning about that during COVID, and now we're 0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:30.879 seeing the fruit of those policies you know, played out, 0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:33.040 and so we have to go to where these people are. 0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:35.720 We have to reach them. Charlie was just a brilliant 0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:38.759 strategist at reaching people in the digital space. And you know, 0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:41.040 his video has been seen by literally billions of people 0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:43.080 and they're going to continue to be seen. But we 0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:45.200 have to keep being you know, strategic in our generation. 0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:48.319 You know, Charlie is not here physically to you know, 0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:49.960 to do that himself. We got to pick up the 0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:51.920 baton and every single one of us, you know, have 0:49:52.000 --> 0:49:53.960 to do our part to really build, to reach people, 0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:56.919 to help the hurt and ultimately lead them to Jesus Christ. 0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:00.920 Pastor Lucas Miles. I saw a treaty he's on Salon, 0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:03.360 a website that I'm sure many do not attend, but 0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:06.720 nonetheless it's a liberal website about the message with Charlie 0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:10.640 Kirk being anti female. The message was it is very 0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:13.560 positive to meet a man, to be in a sense 0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:17.160 him the leader of the family. He's to protect to 0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:19.480 the provider, and that is a mother. To stay at 0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:22.520 home is anti female. The average female today gets married 0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:24.960 when she's about twenty nine, the average male about thirty one. 0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:28.600 And so therefore the message is stay at home, barefoot 0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:31.440 and pregnant and cook, prepare dinner, and be the homemaker. 0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:35.239 And that message by Salon was terrible that girls and 0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:37.480 young women are being told the only way you can 0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:39.799 be successful in life is to find a man, to 0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:43.040 get married, to have children, to be a homemaker. And 0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:46.680 the Salon, a liberal website, says Charlie Kirk's message was 0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:49.640 anti female, trying to hold women back. How would you 0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:50.319 respond to that. 0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:53.359 One, Well, I would say if he's trying to hold 0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:55.359 women back. He did a very bad job of it 0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:59.160 because so many of our staff at GPUSA are female 0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:03.240 and they're executives and their leaders within the organization. Charlie 0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:06.879 was a champion of a humanity period. He believed in 0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:11.480 and understood the Biblical design that we see there's differences 0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:14.759 between men and women, and we celebrate those differences. That 0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:17.160 doesn't mean that you know, uh, there has to be 0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:19.399 this or that they're you know, there shouldn't. That never 0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:21.960 leads to dominance. That never leads to you know, control 0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:23.640 in some sort of sense. We would be, you know, 0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:26.120 against anything like that. In scripture, would be against anything 0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:28.040 like that. And so I think that you know, you 0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:30.960 see these things. Obviously they're taking one sound bite and 0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:32.920 they're going to use that and pull that out of context. 0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:36.000 But I think those around Charlie, those that watched his videos, 0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:38.880 you know, a lot of his base was were females 0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:41.960 that were finding freedom and hope and encouragement in the 0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:44.640 message that he was sharing about liberty and about Jesus 0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:48.279 Christ and about family and really how to you know, 0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:50.400 follow God's plan for your life. And I think that 0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:53.160 those that you know, uh, actually tuned in to hear 0:51:53.480 --> 0:51:56.120 his full statements on those things. That's what they experienced. 0:51:56.239 --> 0:52:00.480 Pastor Lucas Miles. A turning point, uh is this is 0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:05.000 this movement open to Jews, to Muslims, to seeks to 0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:07.640 those who do not believe in God whatsoever. The three 0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:11.040 points of Charlie Kirk was number one God and number 0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:14.920 two is family. Number three is America. Is this message 0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:17.279 if you're a Jew, if you're a Muslim, if you're 0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:19.680 a Sikh, if you're some other sect I guess a 0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:22.400 Mormon certainly is the best people I've ever met in 0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:25.040 my life are Mormons, by the way. But nonetheless, is 0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:27.280 this message open to Jews and the Muslims? 0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:30.759 I think it depends on what message we're talking about. So, 0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:34.600 first off, the message of the Gospel of Jesus Christ 0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:37.359 is open to all people who would put their faith 0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:40.840 in him. That is the inclusivity of the gospel. But 0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:43.759 the exclusivity of the gospel is that only those who 0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:47.120 receive Him by faith are able to become children of God. 0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:50.080 That's from a Christian theological standpoint. But if we're talking 0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:53.160 about the message of conservatism, the message of liberty, the 0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:56.200 message of some of the work that say, maybe our 0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:59.320 secular side at Turning Point Action or Turning Point USA 0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:02.200 is doing on college campuses that you will find, you know, 0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:04.880 Charlie was always a big tent, you know, thinker. We 0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:08.000 have people from all different backgrounds, you know that that 0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:10.839 have come alongside the Turning Point brand that have been 0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:12.800 part of our chapters, have been part of our groups. 0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:16.000 And that's not something that is inherently Christian to that, 0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:18.560 although a lot of our people happened to be Christians, 0:53:19.160 --> 0:53:21.160 and I think that that liberty and freedom you know, 0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:24.960 really originate from a Christian idea in that sense. But 0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:27.239 we have people from all different backgrounds that partner with us. 0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:27.719 You see that. 0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:29.719 You know, we're you know, even displayed in some of 0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:31.960 our speakers, you know that we work with. So I 0:53:32.040 --> 0:53:35.120 oversee you know tp USA faith, which is you know, 0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:38.319 kind of our our our church driven arm of that. 0:53:38.480 --> 0:53:40.200 So I work with a little bit different base of 0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:43.680 individuals than what Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action 0:53:44.400 --> 0:53:46.320 you know, are working in within a daily basis. 0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:48.520 Is it dangerous out there? I saw what happened in 0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:52.160 Tennessee State University and which there were three or four 0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:55.640 representatives and they were literally had their placards, they were 0:53:55.680 --> 0:53:58.120 torn up, the chairs who were overthrown. There was like 0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:01.480 a mini riot. The police show up even after the 0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:04.200 death has been almost a month now of Charlie Kirk. 0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:07.400 And is it still dangerous out there to be a 0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:10.719 Christian to believe in God, family and country? How dangerous 0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:13.800 isn't And have you seen the recent videos on college campuses. 0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:16.120 The violence has not stopped. 0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:19.279 You know, I think it's been dangerous to be a 0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:22.120 Christian for about two thousand years, and I think that 0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:23.880 it's going to continue to be dangerous to be a 0:54:23.960 --> 0:54:27.279 Christian until the Lord returns. The Bible says in John 0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:30.200 fifteen that you know, Jesus says specifically that they will 0:54:30.239 --> 0:54:33.040 hate you because they hated me first talking about himself, 0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:35.680 and so you know, we know that there is a 0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:38.960 hatred for Christians in this world because people who are 0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:42.000 rebelling against God and have hatred for God are going 0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:44.720 to hate His children, his people, his name, his voice 0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:47.000 in any of those sayss I believe that Charlie was 0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:50.239 silenced not for his political views, but because he was 0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:52.719 a Christian, because he stood on biblical principles, because he 0:54:52.800 --> 0:54:55.959 testified to his faith. He died of murder, and so yeah, 0:54:55.960 --> 0:54:58.160 it is dangerous, but you know, our love in the 0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:00.640 same way that God loves us enough to send his 0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:03.760 son to die, we love the world enough in Christ 0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:07.040 to be willing to put ourselves in dangerous positions and 0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:09.439 at the risk of personal peril in order to share 0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:12.279 this gospel. Obviously, we want to be smart. I would 0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:14.839 encourage any church out there they should have security right 0:55:14.880 --> 0:55:17.600 now that if they should be rethinking their plan. We've 0:55:17.640 --> 0:55:20.080 seen an uptick in church violence, all of those things. 0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:21.680 All of us have to be thinking about this. This 0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:25.080 is not just you know, turning point USA, but but ultimately, 0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:28.200 you know, we believe that this life, it's a butt 0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:30.560 of vapor and it is worth the risk to be 0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:33.600 able to lead somebody else to you know, out of 0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:37.479 a pit of hell into an eternal relationship with Jesus Christ. 0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:39.839 Now, lastly, how's Erica doing? 0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:40.640 Is she? 0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:44.080 Her speech I thought two days after the event was 0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:45.880 one of the greatest things I've ever seen. It was, 0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:48.760 I believe. It was on Friday night, about nine pm, 0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:51.920 two days after her husband was murdered, and she related 0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:54.880 somewhere that she wanted to to see his body. 0:55:55.520 --> 0:55:55.640 Uh. 0:55:55.760 --> 0:56:00.400 He she went into the morgue and and looked at 0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:03.960 his face in the hand, a slight smile on his face, 0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:07.439 and she said, it's relatable because the second he was dead, 0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:09.719 the next second he saw the face of Christ and 0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:12.960 that was reflected on his face. How's Erica doing? 0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:16.800 You know? I think anybody who goes through tragedy and 0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:21.080 and just just such a heinous event at this level 0:56:21.840 --> 0:56:23.799 is going to have a wide array of emotions. All 0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:26.680 of us here, you know, we are cycling through feelings 0:56:26.680 --> 0:56:30.000 of you know, probably disbelief and anger and these things. 0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:32.600 But I think Erica has made very clear, you know, 0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:35.560 where she stands on this. We saw her ability to 0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:38.960 really just grab a hold of God's grace and unconditional 0:56:39.000 --> 0:56:42.120 love and something that was truly supernatural when she, you know, 0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:45.080 uttered those words, I forgive you, know, I forgive you. 0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:48.400 I mean, this is it's so powerful. It's this is 0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:51.280 a difficult time, as you can imagine, but God's grace 0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:53.120 is really, you know, I think, falling on all of 0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:56.120 us here at TPUSA, and I think that we've really 0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:59.120 looked to Erica to to be able to be that 0:56:59.200 --> 0:57:02.960 stabilizing for or see her navigate through this with such 0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:07.920 resolve and grace and strength and stability despite a men's 0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:10.920 pain has been a real unifying factor. I think for 0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:11.440 all of us. 0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:15.200 Pastor Lucas Miles, thank you the book as Pagan Threat, 0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:19.160 and that title puts the cheese on the cracker. Pagan threat. 0:57:19.160 --> 0:57:23.160 It's everywhere. Pastor Lucas Miles, You're a great American. Bill Cunningham, 0:57:23.160 --> 0:57:42.800 the Great American. Live with you every Sunday Night by 0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:46.160 Billy cunning in the Great American. And I will continue 0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:49.880 to follow what's happening with Turning Point USA had Charlie 0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:52.680 Kirk on a couple of times. I've met myself available 0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:55.520 in Midwest to go to certain rallies. I will stand 0:57:55.600 --> 0:57:57.920 up tall and proud for the legacy of Charlie Kirk. 0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:01.880 So when you have a Pagan threat book written by 0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:06.200 Reverend Lucas Miles, who is a close associate of Charlie 0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:08.640 Kirk and things of that character, I kind of want 0:58:08.680 --> 0:58:11.800 to stay close to this group because this bullet cannot 0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:15.040 change the trajectory of what Charlie Kirk contended. It simply 0:58:15.080 --> 0:58:17.680 cannot happen. All let's continue with more coming up next. 0:58:17.720 --> 0:58:22.000 As Erica Snsey, she's the founder of Parents defending education. 0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:45.440 Bill cunning Him to Great American with you every Sunday night, 0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:51.040 Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, if you've listened 0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:55.240 to me the past several years, certainly public education isn't 0:58:55.240 --> 0:58:58.800 complete turmoil. Although I'm very familiar with happening in Cincinnati 0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:01.720 public schools, the same as true in Chicago or Austin, 0:59:01.800 --> 0:59:04.080 or Sacramento or New York. I could not imagine being 0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:06.920 in Atlanta public school where that its education must be. 0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:09.920 Like I've referenced before that many of these kids come 0:59:09.920 --> 0:59:14.280 out as marching Marxist. The average twelfth grader in Chicago 0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:18.360 reads about the eighth grade level. It's in doctrination, not education, 0:59:18.880 --> 0:59:21.560 and it's getting worse, it's not getting better. Jonaan you 0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:24.960 and I. I is doctor eric Osanzi. She's a public 0:59:25.000 --> 0:59:29.960 relations director with defunding, defending education, et cetera, and defunding 0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:33.080 education as it is today. And Erico, welcome, I think 0:59:33.120 --> 0:59:35.160 for the first time to the Bill Cunningham Show. Before 0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:37.440 we get into your article at OutKick, which I think 0:59:37.520 --> 0:59:40.720 was fabulous, can you kind of tell us what's happening 0:59:40.720 --> 0:59:44.280 with doctor Ian Roberts, the superintendent des Moines, which is 0:59:44.320 --> 0:59:46.760 illustrative of a larger problem. 0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:50.439 Yeah, I mean, this is one of those stories that 0:59:50.520 --> 0:59:53.720 you actually feel like it's like made for a move 0:59:53.800 --> 0:59:56.680 to be made into a movie. Every time I checked 0:59:56.720 --> 0:59:59.520 the news, another shoe has dropped related to this guy. 1:00:00.480 --> 1:00:03.880 But essentially, you know, the Des Moines Public Schools that has, 1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:09.600 you know, thirty five thousand students hired this man, doctor 1:00:09.720 --> 1:00:13.080 Ian Roberts, to become their superintendent. 1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:16.880 His salary plus benefits. 1:00:16.440 --> 1:00:20.080 All in per year with three hundred and five thousand dollars. 1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:23.240 And it turns out that he appears to just be 1:00:23.440 --> 1:00:27.000 kind of like a con man. So he was arrested 1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:30.600 the end of last week by ice or detained I 1:00:30.600 --> 1:00:33.920 think the word right, detained by ice because there was 1:00:33.960 --> 1:00:37.160 an active deportation order out for him which was issued 1:00:37.440 --> 1:00:40.360 under the Bibe administration in May of twenty twenty four. 1:00:41.960 --> 1:00:42.760 When he was. 1:00:42.680 --> 1:00:46.880 Pursued by the Ice agents, he abandoned his car and 1:00:47.080 --> 1:00:49.240 took off in like some sort of like woods or 1:00:49.280 --> 1:00:51.360 like they think they said it was like a brushy area, 1:00:52.200 --> 1:00:54.560 left a loaded gun in his car three thousand dollars 1:00:54.640 --> 1:00:58.000 in cash. So that's already like a pretty big story. 1:00:58.080 --> 1:01:01.479 But it turns out that he also had lied about 1:01:01.480 --> 1:01:05.040 his credentials, had lied about getting a doctorate from Morgan State, 1:01:05.080 --> 1:01:08.120 which he never did, so he was going by doctor 1:01:08.200 --> 1:01:10.200 back when he was working in the DC Public School 1:01:10.240 --> 1:01:13.480 in twenty twelve, but he didn't actually get his or 1:01:13.760 --> 1:01:16.720 his doctorate until twenty twenty one. And I think it 1:01:16.800 --> 1:01:18.920 was kind of from one of those like online diploma 1:01:18.960 --> 1:01:23.000 mill type places. He misrepresented being a citizen on his 1:01:23.240 --> 1:01:29.400 I nine and he also left behind he worked at 1:01:29.360 --> 1:01:32.240 a school in Pennsylvania and left in his wake four 1:01:32.280 --> 1:01:35.680 hundred and five thousand dollars in legal settlement costs for 1:01:35.840 --> 1:01:40.640 the district, all directly related to him. I mean, I mean, 1:01:41.040 --> 1:01:43.640 I don't you never want to relish in a story, 1:01:43.800 --> 1:01:48.320 but it really does like it just it's it's insane. 1:01:48.720 --> 1:01:50.960 And then when you see what his ideology was, when 1:01:51.000 --> 1:01:55.120 you see what the policies were in des Moines under him, 1:01:55.680 --> 1:01:57.320 it just all makes sense. 1:01:57.760 --> 1:02:01.720 He was a classic dei higher. He fit the formula 1:02:02.080 --> 1:02:05.320 of the liberals of the Poinne Board of Education. And 1:02:05.480 --> 1:02:07.760 I suppose one of the women, one of the ladies 1:02:07.760 --> 1:02:11.040 that hired him, is now running for the Senate. And 1:02:11.080 --> 1:02:14.320 I want to take the place of Jody Ernst next year, 1:02:14.960 --> 1:02:18.360 and I'm reading this describe that explain that one. 1:02:19.520 --> 1:02:22.160 It's even worse than that. So, first of all, I 1:02:22.240 --> 1:02:25.040 hate to say this because this does make me sound sexist, 1:02:25.280 --> 1:02:27.959 and that's fine. This is an all female school board, 1:02:27.960 --> 1:02:30.560 and I do think that's relevant because of the way 1:02:30.600 --> 1:02:35.400 that empathy is much more easily weaponized with women. Number Two, 1:02:35.920 --> 1:02:38.720 the ch the board chair. This woman who is the 1:02:38.760 --> 1:02:42.200 chair of the board was in the past Michelle Obama's 1:02:42.240 --> 1:02:46.520 chief of staff, perfect and she's now running for a 1:02:46.640 --> 1:02:49.000 US Senate. And the funniest thing is she made a 1:02:49.080 --> 1:02:52.720 video a few days ago saying, I've been so busy 1:02:52.760 --> 1:02:56.520 with my volunteer job as a school board chairs the 1:02:56.680 --> 1:03:00.280 past week that i haven't had time to can work 1:03:00.280 --> 1:03:04.840 on my campaign, So please donate money. So she's literally 1:03:04.880 --> 1:03:09.880 she's fundraising off a massive failure, which I don't know 1:03:09.920 --> 1:03:12.360 that just kind of that takes a lot of I 1:03:12.400 --> 1:03:14.440 don't know what to think that people are going to 1:03:14.480 --> 1:03:18.520 want to give you money because you are now like 1:03:19.040 --> 1:03:23.720 a nationwide spectacle because of your Either two things, one 1:03:23.760 --> 1:03:24.520 of two things happened. 1:03:24.560 --> 1:03:25.280 Either this was. 1:03:27.200 --> 1:03:30.000 Ideology that had taken over and had you know, blinded 1:03:30.040 --> 1:03:33.080 them to reality, or this is completing competence. 1:03:33.400 --> 1:03:36.120 Well, doctor Ian Roberts is not a doctor. I'm watching 1:03:36.160 --> 1:03:41.840 one of the immigration lawyers representing the Trump administration who says, 1:03:41.920 --> 1:03:45.240 thirty years ago he was involved in drug dealing. He 1:03:45.360 --> 1:03:48.080 was picked up illegally. He's from the nation of Guyana 1:03:48.120 --> 1:03:51.160 in South America. Every part of his life is fake. 1:03:51.840 --> 1:03:54.120 And now the Moine Board of Education is saying, well, 1:03:54.160 --> 1:03:57.200 we hired this other company to do the proper investigation. 1:03:57.600 --> 1:03:59.880 All it takes is a computer and Google to find 1:03:59.880 --> 1:04:03.320 out this guy does not have a life at all 1:04:03.440 --> 1:04:06.840 other than as a trickster and a hoaster. And when 1:04:06.880 --> 1:04:10.000 the gig was up, he ran in a car, parked 1:04:10.000 --> 1:04:12.840 the car illegally in a field, ran hide behind some 1:04:12.920 --> 1:04:16.880 bushes and trees with a gun illegally, a knife illegally, 1:04:16.920 --> 1:04:19.480 and with three thousand dollars in cash. And this is 1:04:19.560 --> 1:04:22.640 the person the Liberal Democrats in Des Moines, Iowa wanted 1:04:22.640 --> 1:04:25.320 to lead thirty thousand kids in the public school system. 1:04:25.560 --> 1:04:27.680 I can imagine the results of the testing in that 1:04:27.720 --> 1:04:30.360 school district with this guy in charge. And one of 1:04:30.360 --> 1:04:33.720 the scoreboard members wiped away tears as she spoke in 1:04:33.720 --> 1:04:39.400 Spanish during the Tuesday night acceptance of his resignation and 1:04:39.480 --> 1:04:42.760 the students, how about this one, Erica Sonzi, how about 1:04:42.760 --> 1:04:46.280 this one. There were about fifteen or twenty students who 1:04:46.360 --> 1:04:51.240 walked out Wednesday or Wednesday morning in protest. They were 1:04:51.320 --> 1:04:55.280 unhappy they lost their good looking superintendent who fed all 1:04:55.360 --> 1:04:58.840 the DEI principles. How about the students themselves saying we 1:04:58.880 --> 1:04:59.640 want him back. 1:05:01.640 --> 1:05:05.280 Well, again, this is another thing with that weaponization of empathy, 1:05:05.360 --> 1:05:07.840 right where you convince these kids that in order to 1:05:07.840 --> 1:05:10.840 be a good person, they have to stand up for 1:05:10.880 --> 1:05:12.840 this guy. Now, I've worked in enough schools to know 1:05:12.960 --> 1:05:19.360 most students don't know who the superintendent is. So if 1:05:19.400 --> 1:05:23.080 there was an overwhelming awareness of this guy by students, 1:05:23.160 --> 1:05:26.600 that's also kind of strange. So the fact that they 1:05:26.640 --> 1:05:28.120 would be And again you're going to see these the 1:05:28.200 --> 1:05:30.600 parents who are protesting again why because it's about these 1:05:30.640 --> 1:05:34.840 identity boxes. For them, he doesn't matter what he did wrong. 1:05:34.880 --> 1:05:37.600 We've seen this so many times over the past few years, 1:05:37.920 --> 1:05:42.840 that people will make excuses and lower the bar if 1:05:43.080 --> 1:05:48.080 people check off certain identity boxes. And that's clearly what 1:05:48.200 --> 1:05:52.760 happened here, because it's all indefensible no matter who he is. 1:05:53.760 --> 1:05:55.760 But again, but for some of these people for whom 1:05:55.840 --> 1:06:00.280 this ideology has sort of like broken their brains. Yeah, 1:06:00.880 --> 1:06:03.520 they they're still kind of clinging to the idea that 1:06:03.560 --> 1:06:04.720 he was the right guy for the job. 1:06:05.240 --> 1:06:08.680 Liberal females were encaptured with the way he appeared, had 1:06:09.080 --> 1:06:12.600 had the right kind of hair, representation, always looked great, 1:06:12.960 --> 1:06:15.680 represented very well. It was all a fake and a fraud. 1:06:15.880 --> 1:06:17.840 Before we talk about your column, which I think is 1:06:17.880 --> 1:06:25.160 fabulous at at OutKick, I want to talk briefly about Chicago, 1:06:26.000 --> 1:06:30.320 and I'm reading a headline Chicago Teachers Union Morn's death. 1:06:30.320 --> 1:06:34.480 A convicted seventies cop killer and revolutionary and this got 1:06:34.560 --> 1:06:38.480 small strift in the mainstream media. But back in the 1:06:38.840 --> 1:06:41.400 nineteen seventies, there was a woman who took the name 1:06:41.440 --> 1:06:45.560 of Asada Shakur, literally convicted of killing a police officer. 1:06:45.920 --> 1:06:49.919 His name was State Trooper New Jersey Warner Forster. And 1:06:50.400 --> 1:06:53.240 she was convicted in nineteen seventy seven. No question, she 1:06:53.320 --> 1:06:57.120 did it. She was convicted, And somehow I must have 1:06:57.160 --> 1:07:01.080 missed this one. Her band of renegades and revolutionlutionaries broke 1:07:01.120 --> 1:07:04.120 her out of a female state prison in New Jersey 1:07:04.360 --> 1:07:06.720 and she made her way to Cuba. And so for 1:07:06.800 --> 1:07:09.320 the last time. Almost fifty years she's been living in 1:07:09.360 --> 1:07:11.760 Cuba and every president has tried to get her back 1:07:11.760 --> 1:07:14.160 because she convicted, no questions, she killed a cop as 1:07:14.200 --> 1:07:17.560 a revolutionary act. Well, she died about a week ago, 1:07:18.360 --> 1:07:22.920 and the Chicago Teachers' Union mourns the death of convicted 1:07:22.960 --> 1:07:26.960 seventies cop killer and revolutionary Assada Shakor. These are the 1:07:27.040 --> 1:07:30.680 teachers in Chicago. This is a cop killer in Cuba, 1:07:30.800 --> 1:07:33.800 they said, rest in power, rest in peace. Today we 1:07:33.880 --> 1:07:37.360 honor the life and legacy of a revolutionary fighter, a 1:07:37.360 --> 1:07:41.160 fierce writer, a revered elder, a black liberation and a 1:07:41.240 --> 1:07:44.000 leader of freedom whose spirit continues to live in our struggle. 1:07:44.280 --> 1:07:47.080 Assawda refused to be silenced. She taught us so much. 1:07:47.600 --> 1:07:52.000 So I'm reading this so last week Chicago teachers honored 1:07:52.320 --> 1:07:56.400 a cop killer as a revolutionary. Why isn't that a 1:07:56.400 --> 1:07:57.000 bigger deal? 1:07:58.440 --> 1:08:00.880 So I saw a lot about this, probably because I 1:08:01.040 --> 1:08:04.040 was on X a lot, and I would say too. Again, 1:08:04.160 --> 1:08:07.200 it is important for listeners to know that the union 1:08:07.520 --> 1:08:13.760 leadership is very radical, yes, and the rank and file 1:08:14.000 --> 1:08:17.200 are much less so, though the rank and file often 1:08:17.320 --> 1:08:20.000 are unaware of what their leadership is doing and saying 1:08:21.600 --> 1:08:23.720 so but yeah, no, Well, we get to remember this 1:08:23.880 --> 1:08:27.240 is the same teachers union who also said that anyone 1:08:27.360 --> 1:08:32.240 who wanted schools to reopen during the pandemic was a 1:08:32.439 --> 1:08:37.520 racist and a misogynist, which actually an a white supremacist, 1:08:37.600 --> 1:08:41.880 I believe. So this this is one of the craziest, most. 1:08:41.720 --> 1:08:44.120 Unhinged teachers unions in the country. 1:08:44.960 --> 1:08:47.519 I am not surprised that they came out and said that, 1:08:47.560 --> 1:08:52.400 because that is who they are, and they it literally 1:08:52.479 --> 1:08:53.920 makes me think of like it like if we were 1:08:53.920 --> 1:08:56.240 going to like ads a be like wanting to honor 1:08:56.240 --> 1:09:01.080 Timothy McVay or something right where you you know, she 1:09:01.360 --> 1:09:03.639 in addition to killing being a cop killer, I believe 1:09:03.720 --> 1:09:05.000 she was also a bank robber. 1:09:05.160 --> 1:09:05.559 Correct. 1:09:05.760 --> 1:09:09.559 And the mayor of Chicago was asked about this now, 1:09:09.640 --> 1:09:12.120 and he's also a total whack job who used to 1:09:12.160 --> 1:09:14.400 run this name this he used to run this union. 1:09:14.439 --> 1:09:15.800 To give you a sense, I mean, he's just like 1:09:15.840 --> 1:09:20.479 he's like a radical revolutionary type. And uh, he didn't 1:09:20.520 --> 1:09:23.560 condemn what the union said. He basically said. 1:09:24.720 --> 1:09:25.160 That she. 1:09:29.560 --> 1:09:31.360 What's the word I'm looking for here? She proclaimed her 1:09:31.360 --> 1:09:35.000 innocence throughout, and he said that, you know, when she 1:09:35.160 --> 1:09:37.280 was convicted, you couldn't get a fair trial in this 1:09:37.360 --> 1:09:39.639 country if you were a person of color, he said, 1:09:40.439 --> 1:09:45.200 so basically, he defended the the Union by saying she's 1:09:45.200 --> 1:09:48.040 probably innocent because you couldn't get a fair trial back then. 1:09:48.400 --> 1:09:51.880 She's a victim, and so her revolutionary band broke her out. 1:09:52.400 --> 1:09:52.519 Uh. 1:09:52.640 --> 1:09:55.519 The reason I issue on today is is your column 1:09:55.520 --> 1:09:58.800 and OutKick headline is teachers who delight in murder and 1:09:58.840 --> 1:10:01.720 assassinations are un fit for the job. You go on 1:10:01.800 --> 1:10:04.160 to write, millions of kids in this country love Charlie 1:10:04.240 --> 1:10:07.479 Kirk saw I'm executed on livestream. You go on to 1:10:07.520 --> 1:10:10.920 say that there's a question of fitness for the job, 1:10:10.960 --> 1:10:12.960 and you have some of the quotes of teachers and others. 1:10:13.040 --> 1:10:17.559 Quote another Nazi dead resting urine, Charlie Kirk. You also 1:10:17.880 --> 1:10:20.599 the teachers have said, I've watched a video over and 1:10:20.640 --> 1:10:23.639 over like fifty times, love every fraction of a second 1:10:23.720 --> 1:10:26.280 of it. It gets better with every watch. That's from 1:10:26.320 --> 1:10:29.080 a teacher quote. Yes I'm celebrating. Yes I hope he 1:10:29.280 --> 1:10:33.200 rots another one far right, buttholes have a target on 1:10:33.240 --> 1:10:36.120 their backs. One down, millions to go. So these are 1:10:36.200 --> 1:10:40.759 teachers in the classroom celebrating in cold blood the murder 1:10:40.800 --> 1:10:42.880 of Charlie Kirk. Explain that one to me. 1:10:44.439 --> 1:10:50.599 So these are all quotations that I pulled from social 1:10:50.720 --> 1:10:54.599 media platforms. So these were k through twelve teachers who 1:10:54.640 --> 1:11:02.680 took to public platforms to celebrate this asassity. They were 1:11:02.720 --> 1:11:07.160 not said in the classroom, they but they were put 1:11:07.160 --> 1:11:12.800 out on a public platform in the immediate aftermath of 1:11:12.800 --> 1:11:15.799 that murder. And again, like, as I'm wearing my former 1:11:15.880 --> 1:11:19.479 teacher hat and my parent hat, this is a question 1:11:19.560 --> 1:11:23.200 of fitness. You're not fit for the role of to 1:11:23.240 --> 1:11:28.320 be educating other people's children in a compulsory education system 1:11:30.120 --> 1:11:33.760 if this is the way that you behave publicly after 1:11:33.880 --> 1:11:36.720 political assassination. And to me, it doesn't matter who the 1:11:36.960 --> 1:11:41.200 it doesn't matter who is who gets killed. This behavior 1:11:41.880 --> 1:11:48.360 of this behavior of delighting and murder is something that 1:11:48.400 --> 1:11:51.920 maybe if my cashier at Wendy's, or my Amazon driver 1:11:53.080 --> 1:11:56.200 or my mechanic, you know, if if they do that 1:11:56.720 --> 1:11:59.160 and I know about it, I can take my business elsewhere. 1:12:00.080 --> 1:12:03.679 But that to me is totally different than the adults 1:12:03.680 --> 1:12:07.000 who have custodial care of other people's children. And again 1:12:07.040 --> 1:12:09.920 I have to say, like, this is a compulsory education system, 1:12:09.920 --> 1:12:12.679 and we don't let parents choose they have to send 1:12:12.680 --> 1:12:15.360 their kids to a school that they're residentially assigned to 1:12:16.160 --> 1:12:19.599 unless they have the means to make other arrangements. So 1:12:19.760 --> 1:12:24.880 to say that kids are being forced back into classrooms 1:12:25.280 --> 1:12:30.040 with adults who celebrated the murder of somebody that many 1:12:30.080 --> 1:12:32.839 of these kids didn't just look up to and admire, 1:12:32.920 --> 1:12:35.880 but he was like a daily part of their sort 1:12:35.920 --> 1:12:39.280 of social media diet, and they saw him snuffed out 1:12:39.280 --> 1:12:41.439 in an instant. And then they have to listen to 1:12:41.479 --> 1:12:44.400 the teacher, you know, or they at least have to 1:12:44.439 --> 1:12:46.360 know that their teacher thinks that's great. 1:12:46.680 --> 1:12:51.160 And doctor Sanzi, I'm glad you had that delineator. I'm sorry, I. 1:12:52.720 --> 1:12:56.200 Think I think you're mixing me up with doctor Ian Roberts. 1:12:56.479 --> 1:13:02.280 That's it, Eric of defending Education and the columns at OutKick, 1:13:02.840 --> 1:13:05.479 I want to say this, I'm against cancel culture. That 1:13:05.560 --> 1:13:08.719 we all have rights of freedom of expression, freedom of speech. 1:13:08.760 --> 1:13:11.680 I draw the line if I'm ordering a meal at 1:13:11.960 --> 1:13:15.880 a restaurant, if someone a postal worker, someone like that, 1:13:16.760 --> 1:13:20.120 have doing ministerial functions of one type or another. You know, 1:13:20.240 --> 1:13:23.040 I'm saying, okay, I can, but i don't want somebody 1:13:23.040 --> 1:13:26.879 in charge of my health, like the anesthesiologist from Miami, 1:13:26.920 --> 1:13:29.920 Florida who went on another a woman by the way, 1:13:29.960 --> 1:13:32.599 who talked about how happy she was that Charlie Kirk 1:13:32.680 --> 1:13:35.280 is murdered. I don't want a college professor. I don't 1:13:35.320 --> 1:13:37.640 want someone who's at teaching my kids in school with 1:13:37.720 --> 1:13:40.599 these with this value system, some of the other cuts 1:13:40.640 --> 1:13:43.439 that you have about teachers. Quote, I can't believe people 1:13:43.439 --> 1:13:46.559 are actually mourning this. I can't use the word quote. 1:13:46.600 --> 1:13:49.160 Hearing that Charlie Kirk got shot and died really brightened 1:13:49.200 --> 1:13:52.160 up my day. Another one said, I'm glad he's dead. 1:13:52.439 --> 1:13:54.800 Another one out of social media said, what a piece 1:13:54.840 --> 1:13:57.559 of garbage. This is what happens. He met his maker. 1:13:57.560 --> 1:13:59.760 But let's be very clear that maker is not in 1:13:59.800 --> 1:14:02.720 have Charlie Kirk is not in heaven. He's in hell 1:14:02.880 --> 1:14:06.639 right now. That's from teachers on social media. So explain 1:14:06.720 --> 1:14:10.000 again to the American people why this is not cancel culture. 1:14:12.320 --> 1:14:14.519 Well, this is not cancel culture because this is a 1:14:14.640 --> 1:14:19.320 question of fitness for the job. And we as parents 1:14:19.960 --> 1:14:23.240 delegate the authority to schools to serve in local parents 1:14:23.680 --> 1:14:26.719 during the school day. That means that these are people 1:14:26.760 --> 1:14:30.400 that are tasked with educating other people's children. To me, 1:14:31.680 --> 1:14:36.040 behaving that way is a sign that your moral compass 1:14:36.120 --> 1:14:40.519 is completely broken. And if that broken moral compass is 1:14:41.120 --> 1:14:44.080 gonna you can't force me to make my kids spend 1:14:44.120 --> 1:14:46.200 their time with somebody like that. 1:14:46.600 --> 1:14:48.160 Yes, because there's two reasons. 1:14:48.240 --> 1:14:51.280 One delighting and murder. And by the way, a political 1:14:51.360 --> 1:14:54.160 assassination of somebody in the midst of a debate on 1:14:54.200 --> 1:14:59.640 a college campus that clearly is just qualifying, but so 1:15:00.160 --> 1:15:04.240 is the lack of judgment. It takes two. Again. They 1:15:04.240 --> 1:15:06.880 didn't whisper this to their spouse, They didn't like say 1:15:06.880 --> 1:15:08.679 this when they were out to dinner with their friends, 1:15:08.760 --> 1:15:12.920 right they put it on a public platform for the 1:15:12.960 --> 1:15:17.280 world to see. So that tells me that they just 1:15:17.400 --> 1:15:21.640 they lack any judgment or all judgment required to be 1:15:21.800 --> 1:15:24.880 in that kind of a position with other people's children. 1:15:24.960 --> 1:15:28.160 Because right now, like there are kind of trapped have 1:15:28.800 --> 1:15:30.280 I mean, when you look at middle school and high 1:15:30.280 --> 1:15:34.479 school kids, especially boys, Charlie Kirk was, they probably saw 1:15:34.520 --> 1:15:37.559 him on their phones every single day. Many of them 1:15:38.160 --> 1:15:41.120 admired him, looked up to him, thought he was relatable, 1:15:41.320 --> 1:15:43.120 thought he was able to say things if they wish 1:15:43.200 --> 1:15:46.880 they could say, but they're afraid to say. Liked his politics, 1:15:47.520 --> 1:15:50.600 so they liked him. Other people, it wasn't politics. He 1:15:50.640 --> 1:15:52.840 was kind of a faith leader for them, so they 1:15:52.840 --> 1:15:54.600 looked after him for that reason. For some kids, it 1:15:54.640 --> 1:15:57.400 was just finally a regular guy that just like speaks 1:15:57.400 --> 1:16:01.560 the truth, whatever it was. They saw his life extinguished 1:16:01.600 --> 1:16:03.519 right before their eyes. When we talk about kids not 1:16:03.600 --> 1:16:05.840 having boys don't have role models. Boys don't have role models. 1:16:05.880 --> 1:16:09.360 That's why we literally watched one of them be murdered 1:16:09.360 --> 1:16:11.599 in front of their eyes, and then their teacher goes 1:16:11.640 --> 1:16:14.200 out and says that that's a good thing. I mean, 1:16:14.280 --> 1:16:17.040 couldn't the kid wonder? Couldn't the kid wonder? Gee? I 1:16:17.040 --> 1:16:19.080 wonder if my teacher would be excited if I was killed. 1:16:19.840 --> 1:16:23.080 We have to run. But Erica Sanzi defending education. 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He has a lot of columns at 1:18:24.880 --> 1:18:27.479 town Hall dot com. I have one up the FBI 1:18:27.560 --> 1:18:30.840 faces along Road to Redemption and Jeff crue Air, Welcome 1:18:30.880 --> 1:18:33.280 again to the Bill Cunningham Show. Before we talk about 1:18:33.479 --> 1:18:35.640 James Combe and all that kind of stuff, give me 1:18:35.680 --> 1:18:37.519 your sense of where we are. We're about four or 1:18:37.560 --> 1:18:41.160 five days in in the government shutdown. All it would 1:18:41.200 --> 1:18:43.760 take is for the Democrats, five or six more Democrats 1:18:43.800 --> 1:18:46.920 in the Senates to say, you know what, enough is enough. 1:18:47.000 --> 1:18:49.360 We'll have a clean cr and we're going to vote 1:18:49.400 --> 1:18:52.559 for the same continuation of federal spending as we voted 1:18:52.600 --> 1:18:55.120 for in March. And this is the Biden budget that 1:18:55.360 --> 1:18:59.400 concluded on October I'm sorry, on September thirtieth, which is 1:18:59.400 --> 1:19:02.040 the fiscal the US. So we're about a weekend of 1:19:02.080 --> 1:19:04.800 this thing right now, and they're Republicans saying, well, let's 1:19:04.800 --> 1:19:07.320 just keep the Biden budget going, and the Democrats are 1:19:07.320 --> 1:19:09.719 going nuts. Give me your perspective if any. 1:19:11.120 --> 1:19:13.840 Yeah, I mean, I think the Democrats own this bill. 1:19:13.920 --> 1:19:16.560 I mean, I think the Democrats are going to cave eventually. 1:19:16.680 --> 1:19:19.760 Already three of them voted with the Republicans. And by 1:19:19.800 --> 1:19:22.720 the way, Fetterman is looking like the most reasonable Democrat 1:19:22.800 --> 1:19:26.479 in Congress. If only you had more Democrats like Setterment. 1:19:26.960 --> 1:19:30.120 But I do think they're going to they're going to 1:19:30.200 --> 1:19:31.960 cave eventually. I think they're going to get the heat. 1:19:32.160 --> 1:19:35.479 I think Republicans should just stand firm. Democrats are trying 1:19:35.479 --> 1:19:37.800 to get in this what they couldn't get into one 1:19:37.800 --> 1:19:43.040 big beautiful bill, which is basically healthcare for illegals. So 1:19:43.760 --> 1:19:47.280 this is all on them. As you said, Schumer went 1:19:47.320 --> 1:19:52.280 ahead with the clean cr back in March. In the interim. 1:19:52.280 --> 1:19:54.200 You got a lot of heat for doing that. AOC 1:19:54.400 --> 1:19:57.600 is breathing down his neck, and you know, it's politics, 1:19:57.640 --> 1:20:00.080 and he's worried about his position, and the left we 1:20:00.120 --> 1:20:03.080 hang is now with certain control, and you know this 1:20:03.160 --> 1:20:04.160 is what we end up with. 1:20:04.479 --> 1:20:06.320 I kind of have to think, Jeff Career, how does 1:20:06.360 --> 1:20:09.040 this end? I assume it's going to be the next 1:20:09.080 --> 1:20:11.720 payday to miss they have the federal workers have not 1:20:11.760 --> 1:20:14.639 missed the payday yet. The last one was September thirtieth. 1:20:14.720 --> 1:20:17.920 The next one's the fifteenth, and so the paychecks are 1:20:17.960 --> 1:20:20.960 supposed to come. And in the past, well when these 1:20:21.000 --> 1:20:24.599 eighteen other shutdowns took place, they ever paid anyway. And 1:20:24.920 --> 1:20:29.519 so we until the fifteenth, there's nothing, nothing much to do. 1:20:29.640 --> 1:20:32.000 So this could go on for a while, and this 1:20:32.040 --> 1:20:35.040 will give the Trumpster an opportunity to right size the 1:20:35.080 --> 1:20:39.439 federal government, the bureaucracy, be careful for what you wish. 1:20:39.520 --> 1:20:41.400 Well, that's what he talked about doing it. It'll be 1:20:41.400 --> 1:20:45.799 an opportunity for him to make some serious cuts in government. 1:20:45.840 --> 1:20:48.240 I mean, we know the government's too big. I mean, Bill, 1:20:48.280 --> 1:20:51.880 we've got a thirty seven plus trillion dollar debt that 1:20:52.240 --> 1:20:55.240 we have to take care of. And the president has 1:20:55.280 --> 1:20:57.920 a unique opportunity here. It should take advantage of it. 1:20:58.000 --> 1:21:01.599 And the Democrats are in disarret. They are totally all 1:21:01.640 --> 1:21:05.040 over the board on the far far left. You don't 1:21:05.040 --> 1:21:09.160 have any voices of reason, really very few, and the 1:21:09.200 --> 1:21:13.520 president is just driving them crazy. They're just filled with anger. 1:21:13.640 --> 1:21:16.760 And you know they're talking about the president being you know, 1:21:16.880 --> 1:21:21.040 mentally incompetence. I mean, of course they said nothing when 1:21:21.040 --> 1:21:23.360 Biden was president for four years. They just said he 1:21:23.439 --> 1:21:25.479 was sharp as attack. And now they're worried about the 1:21:25.479 --> 1:21:27.879 mental competence of the president. It's crazy. 1:21:28.720 --> 1:21:31.040 A few days ago, ahead on Senator Ran Paul the 1:21:31.040 --> 1:21:34.160 only Republican in the Senate that voted against us. He 1:21:34.240 --> 1:21:37.440 voted with Chuck Schumer, and he said, look, the Republicans 1:21:37.479 --> 1:21:40.880 want to spend and borrow over this fiscal year, the 1:21:40.960 --> 1:21:44.160 one coming up, this one about two trillion dollars want 1:21:44.160 --> 1:21:47.599 to borrow that, and that Democrats want to borrow three trillion, 1:21:48.120 --> 1:21:50.760 and either it's two or three trillion. At some point 1:21:50.840 --> 1:21:52.479 we're gonna have one hell of a problem in this 1:21:52.560 --> 1:21:57.680 country because if we're not the reserve currency, or if 1:21:57.800 --> 1:22:00.880 the other nations of the world and certain funds do 1:22:00.880 --> 1:22:03.760 not want to buy our debt, we're gonna need whalebarrels 1:22:03.960 --> 1:22:05.920 going to the grocery store to get a loaf of bread. 1:22:06.400 --> 1:22:10.400 And so doesn't Rand Paul have a point about borrowing 1:22:10.520 --> 1:22:14.120 under Trump's plan and additional two trillion dollars every year 1:22:14.160 --> 1:22:16.639 for the next several years. Doesn't he have a point? 1:22:16.800 --> 1:22:16.880 He? 1:22:17.400 --> 1:22:18.880 I mean, he has a great point. I mean I 1:22:19.160 --> 1:22:21.519 understand where he's coming from. I mean, I understand his 1:22:22.560 --> 1:22:24.880 fiscal common sense. I mean he's one of the few 1:22:24.960 --> 1:22:28.280 that really holds the line on spending. And he was 1:22:28.320 --> 1:22:31.000 one of the few voices that called athels during COVID. 1:22:31.080 --> 1:22:33.639 So I mean he's got a record as a truth teller. 1:22:34.360 --> 1:22:37.840 Problem is, of course, that you know, they don't have 1:22:37.920 --> 1:22:40.160 enough like him. I mean, he's out there on an 1:22:40.160 --> 1:22:42.080 Island and it's just him. 1:22:42.560 --> 1:22:43.960 So I mean, we need. 1:22:43.800 --> 1:22:47.439 More that are that are fiscally responsible and give him 1:22:47.439 --> 1:22:50.559 some you know, colleagues to work with. Right now, I mean, 1:22:50.560 --> 1:22:53.639 it's just Ran Paul on the Senate side. There's maybe 1:22:53.640 --> 1:22:56.000 one or two on the House side, but he's right. 1:22:56.040 --> 1:23:00.240 I mean, we've got to seriously reform spending. And that 1:23:00.360 --> 1:23:02.400 was one of the problems with the One Big Beautiful 1:23:02.439 --> 1:23:06.880 Bill is because of the added debt that it created. 1:23:07.000 --> 1:23:10.160 So that was a legitimate criticism, but you know, the 1:23:10.160 --> 1:23:12.479 Republicans said that they had to pass it otherwise we'd 1:23:12.520 --> 1:23:16.120 have these massive tax increases which we can't allow. So 1:23:16.439 --> 1:23:19.439 you know, we were stuck well, and I probably would 1:23:19.439 --> 1:23:21.680 have voted for it too, because I wouldn't want to 1:23:21.680 --> 1:23:23.120 see any taxes go up either. 1:23:23.320 --> 1:23:26.040 You know, my friend Congressman Tom Massey was the one 1:23:26.040 --> 1:23:28.040 in the House that said, no, we can't afford this. 1:23:28.400 --> 1:23:30.599 Maybe there's something in the water in the state of Kentucky, 1:23:30.680 --> 1:23:33.840 but nonetheless, part of it, part of this requirement of 1:23:33.920 --> 1:23:36.840 Chuck Schumer is that the five hundred million, the half 1:23:36.920 --> 1:23:41.240 of billion dollars be issued to NPR within three days 1:23:41.680 --> 1:23:44.280 of opening the government. And so I thought we had 1:23:44.320 --> 1:23:48.400 that debate concluded. The NPR has its viewpoint. And the 1:23:48.400 --> 1:23:52.640 reason Democrats fight like warrior poets to keep NPR is 1:23:52.720 --> 1:23:57.240 because they're a democratic outlet. It's not well publicized. But 1:23:57.800 --> 1:24:02.720 the Democrats want five one hundred million dollars to refund 1:24:02.880 --> 1:24:07.280 NPR and PBS, and that's not been well publicized. 1:24:07.280 --> 1:24:09.840 And we've got to stand firm against that because that's 1:24:09.880 --> 1:24:13.320 already been decided. They want to revisit all these things, Bill, 1:24:13.400 --> 1:24:16.000 which is what you're just talking about. By the way, 1:24:16.040 --> 1:24:19.960 do you know that none of these PBS and PR 1:24:20.080 --> 1:24:22.760 stations have gone out of business. I mean, all of 1:24:22.800 --> 1:24:26.679 them have been able to survive by asking their viewers 1:24:26.680 --> 1:24:29.840 and listeners to donate. So they just had to cut 1:24:29.880 --> 1:24:32.160 back some, but they're still on the air. None of 1:24:32.160 --> 1:24:35.400 them have completely closed their doors. So they didn't need 1:24:35.520 --> 1:24:38.439 all of this federal large s. They didn't need it. 1:24:39.120 --> 1:24:41.439 So we've got to stand firm on that. We cannot 1:24:41.439 --> 1:24:46.519 be funding any entities that just present one side of views. 1:24:47.280 --> 1:24:49.800 This is supposedly for the whole country, and they're all 1:24:49.880 --> 1:24:53.519 their board, all their programming, all their executives are left wing, 1:24:54.200 --> 1:24:58.479 and we shouldn't be in the business of left wing propaganda. Jeff, 1:24:58.560 --> 1:25:01.599 for no question, back down on that bill. We can't 1:25:01.600 --> 1:25:01.920 back down. 1:25:02.000 --> 1:25:04.559 You know, maybe they could fund you and me. Maybe 1:25:04.560 --> 1:25:08.280 they could fund certain parts of conservative maybe they conserve. 1:25:08.479 --> 1:25:11.360 Maybe they could fund conservative talk radio. That would never happen. 1:25:11.600 --> 1:25:14.720 And the reason they fight so hard for NPR and PBS, 1:25:14.800 --> 1:25:16.800 and the reason they fight so hard for late night 1:25:16.840 --> 1:25:21.320 comics the jimmies are unfunny is because they represent democratic viewpoints. 1:25:21.640 --> 1:25:24.040 And the reason they fight so hard for New York 1:25:24.080 --> 1:25:27.280 Times Washington Post is because they're the outlets of the 1:25:27.360 --> 1:25:30.160 radical left. We have to get into this column here 1:25:30.200 --> 1:25:33.799 road on September twenty ninth, about the FBI faces along 1:25:33.920 --> 1:25:36.720 road to redemption. Let's go over the sins in the 1:25:36.720 --> 1:25:40.200 crimes of James Comy, going back at least to twenty sixteen. 1:25:40.479 --> 1:25:42.280 Explain that to the American people. 1:25:43.240 --> 1:25:47.920 James Comy is a liar. He lied about the Steele dossier, 1:25:48.720 --> 1:25:54.200 He lied about Hillary Clinton's emails. He should have prosecuted her, 1:25:54.280 --> 1:25:59.080 but he didn't. He went after General Flynn in a 1:25:59.240 --> 1:26:04.400 very handed way. He basically is a tool of the 1:26:04.479 --> 1:26:07.280 left that was being used to try to bring down 1:26:07.640 --> 1:26:11.240 Donald Trump. He's lied. Now that they have charged him 1:26:11.280 --> 1:26:15.880 with perjury. He lied about what he did by you know, 1:26:16.080 --> 1:26:19.200 slipping information to his friend who got it published. And 1:26:19.760 --> 1:26:22.280 what he was trying to do as he was walking 1:26:22.320 --> 1:26:24.360 out the door was to make sure that there would 1:26:24.400 --> 1:26:28.439 be a Muller investigation going after the president, and he 1:26:28.600 --> 1:26:33.800 successfully got this special counsel created, and you know he 1:26:34.240 --> 1:26:37.519 lied about it. So he's on record line as the 1:26:37.600 --> 1:26:41.280 President Trump posted, it should be easy to be able to, 1:26:42.080 --> 1:26:44.439 you know, get a conviction on this guy. The problem 1:26:44.600 --> 1:26:48.720 is that the judge is a Biden appointed judge. So 1:26:49.400 --> 1:26:54.360 that's always seems to be something that the Democrats benefit from. 1:26:54.600 --> 1:26:58.680 The venue is a little bit different. It's in you know, eastern. 1:27:00.120 --> 1:27:00.840 Virginia. 1:27:01.160 --> 1:27:04.120 It's not in DC, thank goodness. So maybe we have 1:27:04.200 --> 1:27:07.600 a little bit better chance for justice. But the Democrats 1:27:07.600 --> 1:27:10.679 have such built in advantages from the judges, to the juries, 1:27:10.680 --> 1:27:14.920 to where the venues are. But this man is a disgrace. 1:27:15.600 --> 1:27:19.040 Well, yeah, you're saying your column as FBI Director James 1:27:19.120 --> 1:27:23.080 Comey was a disaster. He should have charged Hillary Clinton, 1:27:23.520 --> 1:27:27.920 exonerated Donald Trump, and completely dismissed the bogus THEO dossier. 1:27:28.240 --> 1:27:31.800 He should never have authorized warrant applications based on lies 1:27:32.120 --> 1:27:34.360 or sanctioned that should be leaked to the New York Times, 1:27:34.439 --> 1:27:38.439 which was a crime. He summarily lied to Congress. In fact, 1:27:38.680 --> 1:27:42.360 even CNN and those who represent the far left wing 1:27:42.680 --> 1:27:45.479 have said, I've watched it. Well, James Comy lied. Of course, 1:27:45.479 --> 1:27:47.559 he didn't tell the truth to Congress. But that's no 1:27:47.640 --> 1:27:50.200 big deal because a lot of people lie to Congress. 1:27:50.400 --> 1:27:53.320 So you have former US attorneys saying, well, of course 1:27:53.320 --> 1:27:55.880 he lied to Congress. But let's face it, everyone does, 1:27:55.880 --> 1:27:58.479 so it's okay. But just on the issue of charging 1:27:58.560 --> 1:28:02.639 Hillary Clinton, for those who forgot the summer of twenty sixteen, 1:28:03.120 --> 1:28:05.880 what did he say Hillary Clinton had done that should 1:28:05.880 --> 1:28:11.160 have resulted in her indictment for maybe thirty three thousand counts? 1:28:11.600 --> 1:28:14.000 Yeah, I mean he went through the whole list of 1:28:14.040 --> 1:28:17.320 things that she had done. She lied, She lied over 1:28:17.360 --> 1:28:21.200 and over and over again about her thirty three thousand emails. 1:28:21.200 --> 1:28:26.000 But he made the bogus claim that no prosecutor would 1:28:26.400 --> 1:28:30.400 indict her, and that, of course is another lie right there, 1:28:30.479 --> 1:28:33.360 because I think any reasonable prosecutor would have He said 1:28:33.520 --> 1:28:37.360 that they wouldn't, so I mean he was covering for her. 1:28:37.479 --> 1:28:40.880 Even though Hillary is upset with James Comy because he 1:28:40.960 --> 1:28:44.479 brought up the Anthony Wiener laptop toward the end of 1:28:44.560 --> 1:28:47.679 the campaign, and of course they went through the Anthony 1:28:47.680 --> 1:28:50.120 When Your Laptop in record time and was able to 1:28:50.360 --> 1:28:51.800 say that they went through it all and there was 1:28:51.800 --> 1:28:55.839 nothing there. But Hillary still has bitter towards James Comy, 1:28:55.920 --> 1:28:59.160 but nothing compared to Donald Trump is what he did 1:28:59.280 --> 1:29:03.080 with the pre So yeah, I think the president's happy 1:29:03.080 --> 1:29:06.320 about this indictment. I think the American people should be. 1:29:07.280 --> 1:29:10.519 But he's not the only FBI director who's lied. His 1:29:10.880 --> 1:29:12.320 successor lied as well. 1:29:12.439 --> 1:29:15.439 Christopher Ray. You say, no longer the f BAD director 1:29:15.840 --> 1:29:18.599 are facing the same legal problems as James coming. Didn't 1:29:18.640 --> 1:29:21.760 Christopher Ray lie about the two hundred and seventy five 1:29:21.920 --> 1:29:26.200 FBI agents and informants working the Capitol on January the sixth. 1:29:27.040 --> 1:29:28.960 Yeah, he said he didn't believe that they were any 1:29:29.840 --> 1:29:32.400 He didn't believe that they were any and they were 1:29:32.400 --> 1:29:36.040 two hundred and seventy four. Now Cash Brittel later said 1:29:36.080 --> 1:29:39.400 that they were there, you know, after it had started 1:29:39.439 --> 1:29:43.519 for crowd control. Either way, Christopher Ray knew very well 1:29:43.600 --> 1:29:45.760 what was going on. I mean, we've been lied to 1:29:45.880 --> 1:29:48.080 about Jay six from the beginning Bill, you know about 1:29:48.080 --> 1:29:53.920 the pipe bombers, the whole way that these protesters were 1:29:55.479 --> 1:29:59.040 allowed to, you know, go in there. They've just opened 1:29:59.120 --> 1:30:01.680 up the the barricades and allow them to go in 1:30:01.760 --> 1:30:03.800 and then charge them for that. And then there were 1:30:03.960 --> 1:30:07.599 instigators from Antifa and the police and the FBI, and 1:30:08.080 --> 1:30:10.400 these people were set up, a lot of them, and 1:30:10.439 --> 1:30:13.040 of course they were treated so horribly. And look at 1:30:13.080 --> 1:30:16.240 how that George Floyd protesters were treated with kid gloves. 1:30:16.439 --> 1:30:20.160 Well, the one hundred thousand protesters on January the sixth, 1:30:20.720 --> 1:30:24.640 it was well known weeks in advanced planes, trains, buses, 1:30:24.800 --> 1:30:28.240 and cars. The FBI knew what was coming. In fact, 1:30:28.240 --> 1:30:31.439 they embedded these two hundred and seventy four or others 1:30:31.479 --> 1:30:34.599 into the various crowds, which is a good tactic. They 1:30:34.680 --> 1:30:37.120 used it with the Ku Klux Klan for a long time, 1:30:37.160 --> 1:30:40.000 but they would never use it with Antifa. But nonetheless, 1:30:40.080 --> 1:30:43.240 that's a different story. But they knew, or should have known, 1:30:43.280 --> 1:30:46.960 exactly what was planned because their agents were involved with 1:30:47.040 --> 1:30:50.040 the groups coming to Washington to protest, and so of 1:30:50.080 --> 1:30:52.479 course they knew, and Christopher Ray acted as if we 1:30:52.520 --> 1:30:54.559 had no clue what was going on when they knew 1:30:54.560 --> 1:30:55.400 what was going to happen. 1:30:57.160 --> 1:30:59.840 Yeah, and Christopher Rays, the guy who said that the 1:31:00.000 --> 1:31:03.400 biggest threat that we face is you know, white supremacists, 1:31:04.000 --> 1:31:07.400 that they're the biggest threat to America. I mean, what 1:31:07.600 --> 1:31:12.240 a joke, what a liar. And of course his handling 1:31:12.280 --> 1:31:14.800 of the Jay six thing has been atrocious from the 1:31:14.920 --> 1:31:17.800 very beginning. I'm hoping the cash Betel is going to 1:31:17.800 --> 1:31:21.760 give us some answers about the pipe bomber, about you know, 1:31:21.800 --> 1:31:25.439 the extent of these agents. Some good things are going on. 1:31:25.720 --> 1:31:27.559 We got rid of some of the folks who were 1:31:27.600 --> 1:31:31.200 kneeling when the whole George Floyd mess was going on 1:31:31.400 --> 1:31:34.400 that we're trying to show there Christs for social justice. 1:31:35.000 --> 1:31:38.559 Those folks have been fired. So that's a good step 1:31:38.560 --> 1:31:39.280 in the right direction. 1:31:39.479 --> 1:31:41.240 He's going to be a rain comb. He's going to 1:31:41.240 --> 1:31:44.400 be a rain on October the ninth. Now, lastly, you 1:31:44.439 --> 1:31:46.760 have a great part of your column that deals with 1:31:46.880 --> 1:31:50.320 Charlie Kirk, and you haven't hear about Charlie Kirk and 1:31:50.400 --> 1:31:54.840 the text messaging tether and fro that we need information 1:31:55.000 --> 1:31:58.800 now about Charlie Kirk and talk about what you would 1:31:58.800 --> 1:32:01.320 like to see happened with the a Sassin of Charlie 1:32:01.400 --> 1:32:04.040 Kirk mounting questions I need to answer. 1:32:05.080 --> 1:32:07.000 Yeah, I think there are a lot of questions. Bill. 1:32:07.040 --> 1:32:09.599 I receive videos every day from people that are poking 1:32:09.640 --> 1:32:12.920 holes in the official narrative. I mean, we could spend 1:32:12.960 --> 1:32:15.479 hours going through all the different theories that people have 1:32:16.120 --> 1:32:19.160 sent me. There does seem to be a lot of 1:32:19.200 --> 1:32:22.599 distrust about the official narrative. And you know why, because 1:32:22.640 --> 1:32:24.880 you know, we've been lied to over the years. I mean, 1:32:25.840 --> 1:32:28.800 we have not been told the truth about so many things, 1:32:28.840 --> 1:32:33.080 from weapons of mass destruction to COVID to in my opinion, 1:32:33.120 --> 1:32:35.720 the election and you know JA six, on and on 1:32:35.800 --> 1:32:39.360 and on. So people are obviously distrustful. We're hoping Cash 1:32:39.400 --> 1:32:43.880 Betel and Dan Bongina, we're bringing integrity back to the FBI, 1:32:44.000 --> 1:32:46.200 but we know that there's so many deep state folks 1:32:46.240 --> 1:32:50.400 embedded in there. So there are questions that I'm hearing about. 1:32:50.479 --> 1:32:53.000 You know, the videos that have been released about the shooter, 1:32:53.920 --> 1:32:56.519 about the text messages. A lot of people just don't 1:32:56.640 --> 1:32:59.760 buy the text messages, don't think that that's how twenty 1:32:59.800 --> 1:33:04.960 two year olds communicate, and their holes in the timeline 1:33:05.120 --> 1:33:08.439 build the timeline doesn't really add up when you look 1:33:08.479 --> 1:33:12.519 at the timeline. So it just is, you know, we 1:33:12.840 --> 1:33:15.800 just need more information. We need to have more disclosure 1:33:15.840 --> 1:33:17.479 about what happened. This is a man who is a 1:33:17.520 --> 1:33:20.360 hero to millions of Americans, and he was known to 1:33:20.400 --> 1:33:24.120 millions of Americans and now he's gone, and there needs 1:33:24.160 --> 1:33:26.439 to be full disclosure about you know, where we stand 1:33:26.479 --> 1:33:28.760 as far as the investigators, well. 1:33:28.960 --> 1:33:31.679 To me, the biggest hole to me are the drones. 1:33:32.120 --> 1:33:35.280 According to one report, I saw the six to ten 1:33:35.360 --> 1:33:38.360 members of Charlie Kirk's security team when they went to 1:33:38.400 --> 1:33:40.920 the site. They looked up and saw three or four 1:33:40.960 --> 1:33:43.920 buildings about two hundred yards away, and they said, we 1:33:43.960 --> 1:33:46.479 have to get those buildings covered. They were thinking about 1:33:46.479 --> 1:33:50.200 the assassination attempt on Donald Trump and Butler County, Pennsylvania, 1:33:50.320 --> 1:33:53.160 and so they were said, we have drone technology with us, 1:33:53.360 --> 1:33:55.479 and we can put drones over the top of those 1:33:55.520 --> 1:33:58.639 buildings where a sniper might be, and we can monitor 1:33:58.720 --> 1:34:02.280 who's on the roof and the roof, and the security 1:34:02.280 --> 1:34:05.599 team for Charlie Kirk was told by campus police, we'll 1:34:05.680 --> 1:34:08.639 have that covered, don't worry about it, and look what happened. 1:34:10.080 --> 1:34:12.800 Well, and I've been told that there was like six 1:34:12.960 --> 1:34:16.800 policemen from the university that were at the event, I 1:34:16.840 --> 1:34:20.080 mean six and we had I mean thousands of people 1:34:20.120 --> 1:34:24.559 that were there. So there was a massive error in 1:34:24.600 --> 1:34:29.000 the security, just like there was in Butler, Pennsylvania. And 1:34:29.040 --> 1:34:30.479 I mean, I think a lot of us still have 1:34:30.600 --> 1:34:34.040 questions about the Secret Service, and some recent incidents have 1:34:34.120 --> 1:34:38.040 occurred that have raised more questions about the Secret Service. 1:34:38.720 --> 1:34:42.839 So I think again people are distrustful of the official 1:34:42.920 --> 1:34:45.920 narratives that they're hearing, and you know, we need to 1:34:45.920 --> 1:34:48.240 get to the bottom of what happened here. So were 1:34:48.280 --> 1:34:51.200 we being told that there was just another quote unquote 1:34:51.240 --> 1:34:54.280 loan wold Wolf who was able to get all done 1:34:54.360 --> 1:34:58.040 by himself, right, get up there, disassemble the rifle, get 1:34:58.120 --> 1:35:00.559 down somehow, get it in the woods, in the woods, 1:35:00.880 --> 1:35:02.040 and then to. 1:35:02.160 --> 1:35:05.800 Be discovered, to be discovered there and take it with 1:35:05.880 --> 1:35:09.879 him to be discovered. And I'm thinking, where are the drones? 1:35:10.120 --> 1:35:14.559 What assassin leaves the weapon behind this, assembles it, leaves 1:35:14.560 --> 1:35:16.559 it in the woods, go back. I don't get it. 1:35:17.320 --> 1:35:20.200 Jeff Currer, let's keep the lines open of communication, uh, 1:35:20.320 --> 1:35:23.639 New Orleans, and your columns are always at town Hall 1:35:23.680 --> 1:35:28.559 And Jeff Creweir dot net and Jeff continue to question. 1:35:28.920 --> 1:35:31.000 Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and Jeff, 1:35:31.000 --> 1:35:31.879 you're a great American. 1:35:31.880 --> 1:35:33.479 Thank you always a pleasure. 1:35:33.560 --> 1:35:34.040 Thank you, Bill. 1:35:34.920 --> 1:35:38.680 Let's continue with more drones. We got that covered and 1:35:38.720 --> 1:35:42.519 it wasn't and Charlie Kirk is dead. Bill Cunningham with 1:35:42.560 --> 1:35:56.439 you every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham. And I brought 1:35:56.479 --> 1:35:58.760 this up at the end of the interview with Jeff Kruer. 1:35:58.800 --> 1:36:01.360 And by the way, coming up next is Jeff Gilson 1:36:01.800 --> 1:36:07.479 about certain criminal activities imposed upon the Trump administration by others. 1:36:07.479 --> 1:36:10.640 But the time I spent with Jeff Careary briefly is 1:36:10.680 --> 1:36:14.400 that there was drone technology that was normally used at 1:36:14.400 --> 1:36:17.720 a Charlie Kirk rally, especially when buildings are like a 1:36:17.760 --> 1:36:21.360 sniper's nest, especially after Butler County, PA. And according to 1:36:21.400 --> 1:36:24.960 one media account news account, the administrative team and the 1:36:25.000 --> 1:36:29.240 security team for Charlie Kirk went to the site a 1:36:29.320 --> 1:36:31.240 few days at a time said those buildings have got 1:36:31.280 --> 1:36:32.960 to be covered. We have drones. We can send up 1:36:33.000 --> 1:36:35.600 the drones and then we can monitor the drones in 1:36:35.640 --> 1:36:39.719 real time on our laptop. And the police told Charlie 1:36:39.800 --> 1:36:42.439 Kirk's team don't worry about that. We'll get that covered, 1:36:43.240 --> 1:36:46.720 and somebody did not get it covered. I think I 1:36:46.800 --> 1:36:50.280 have trust in faith and now the FBI and especially 1:36:50.400 --> 1:36:53.160 Dan Bond JNI to do what's right. But someone's got 1:36:53.160 --> 1:36:56.200 to answer the question. It's all these loose ends about 1:36:56.200 --> 1:37:00.439 the assassin and how it happened, who helped, who cooperate, etc. 1:37:01.160 --> 1:37:03.719 But why those building tops could easily have been covered 1:37:03.720 --> 1:37:05.920 and they were not. To me as a major fook. 1:37:06.320 --> 1:37:09.240 Let's continue with more. Jeff Gilson is next. Bill Cunningham 1:37:09.240 --> 1:37:30.959 with you every Sunday night. Let's continue now, Bill Cunningham, 1:37:30.960 --> 1:37:33.680 the great American. The media, the left wing media, is 1:37:33.680 --> 1:37:37.320 going crazy over the indictment of James Comy, and having 1:37:37.360 --> 1:37:39.760 read the indictment, there were three counts proposed by the 1:37:39.760 --> 1:37:42.599 Prosecutor's office. On the third count there wasn't a true 1:37:42.600 --> 1:37:45.240 bill returned to Northern Virginia. But on the other two 1:37:45.360 --> 1:37:48.920 counts there were true bill's returned against James Comy, the 1:37:48.920 --> 1:37:52.320 first FBI director ever to be indicted on anything. And 1:37:52.360 --> 1:37:54.280 the media has got on the side of James Comy, 1:37:54.360 --> 1:37:57.160 largely saying why this should not take place. So I 1:37:57.160 --> 1:38:00.160 thought we'd get perspective on this from Jeff Gilson. He's 1:38:00.160 --> 1:38:03.559 a retired attorney developmental consultant and he began his career 1:38:03.600 --> 1:38:07.519 crafting speeches for Margaret Thatcher and leverages dual a US 1:38:07.520 --> 1:38:11.439 and British citizenship to navigate all the elite political circles 1:38:11.479 --> 1:38:14.759 between the US and the UK. And Jeff Gilson, Welcome 1:38:14.800 --> 1:38:17.240 to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Jeff, 1:38:17.280 --> 1:38:19.400 can you just give the overview to the American people? 1:38:19.680 --> 1:38:22.040 What are the two counts, what are the facts supporting 1:38:22.080 --> 1:38:24.799 each and why is this such a politically hot football. 1:38:26.240 --> 1:38:28.640 Well, Bill, I'm not sure how much time to have. 1:38:29.120 --> 1:38:32.599 I'll tell you what I will do basically for your listeners. 1:38:32.640 --> 1:38:37.080 They're probably much like me, even though I'm steepness kind 1:38:37.080 --> 1:38:40.360 of thing. There's a lot of confusing stuff going on, 1:38:40.840 --> 1:38:43.400 and we could spend some time talking about the detail. 1:38:43.720 --> 1:38:46.400 I will ask your listeners to do something different. All right, 1:38:46.479 --> 1:38:48.680 the two counts and it's a very short indictment. It's 1:38:48.720 --> 1:38:53.879 two pieces of bapies. One he lied to Congress, two 1:38:54.040 --> 1:38:57.400 he instructed justice. That's all anybody needs to know at 1:38:57.400 --> 1:39:02.040 this stage. Beyond I ask your listeners to do that 1:39:02.080 --> 1:39:05.000 if they can remember about ten years rely Fanks on 1:39:05.080 --> 1:39:07.720 your memory, because this, I think is what is very 1:39:07.920 --> 1:39:11.240 crucial here. So let's be immediate. You're absolutely right getting 1:39:11.280 --> 1:39:15.519 all up in arms about the indictment. First thing, Trump 1:39:15.560 --> 1:39:19.280 didn't indict Comy. Bondy didn't indict tromy You. 1:39:19.240 --> 1:39:20.040 Didn't indict him. 1:39:20.080 --> 1:39:24.000 I didn't indict him. A grand jury indicted him. That's 1:39:24.040 --> 1:39:27.720 the process. Let's trust the process. What's happening is too 1:39:27.760 --> 1:39:30.640 many people are undermining the process when it's ues their 1:39:30.680 --> 1:39:36.200 political convenience. Convenience, A grand jury indicted tromy Comy. Next thing, 1:39:36.560 --> 1:39:39.040 there will be a trial. Let's leave it to the 1:39:39.080 --> 1:39:43.040 trial to examine the facts. But in the meantime, rather 1:39:43.120 --> 1:39:47.639 than trying to understand all of the counter allegations flying around, 1:39:47.880 --> 1:39:52.040 trust your memory. What can is accused of doing is this. 1:39:52.640 --> 1:39:55.360 He is accused of lying as saying that he never 1:39:55.439 --> 1:40:00.800 leaked any information in twenty sixteen about an investigation into 1:40:00.840 --> 1:40:05.040 collusion between Trump and Russia, and that when he lied, 1:40:05.200 --> 1:40:08.280 he instructed justice. All right, guys, cast your mind. By 1:40:08.320 --> 1:40:14.240 twenty sixteen, first election Trump got elected, do we remember 1:40:14.520 --> 1:40:17.960 that there was talk about an investigation into Trump and 1:40:18.160 --> 1:40:21.479 Russia and collusion. Yes, we all remember that was the 1:40:21.560 --> 1:40:24.960 news in the summer twenty sixty, right, Bill, it came 1:40:24.960 --> 1:40:29.200 from somewhere, either Comy leaked it, or he authorized someone 1:40:29.200 --> 1:40:32.760 to leak it, or he was so upset he authorized 1:40:32.800 --> 1:40:37.120 an FBI investigation into the league till the latter happened. No, 1:40:37.640 --> 1:40:39.559 so you're left with the other two folks. 1:40:39.600 --> 1:40:40.439 It's that simple. 1:40:40.600 --> 1:40:43.080 It has to be proven in court, but we knew 1:40:43.080 --> 1:40:52.240 about it. So that's that's the first thing. Now, look basically, 1:40:52.240 --> 1:40:55.559 that's it. Rely on your memory. Don't get get get 1:40:55.640 --> 1:40:59.000 sidetracked by this. For instance, one of the things floating 1:40:59.040 --> 1:41:04.639 around is that the process of the grand jury wasn't proper. Okay, 1:41:04.720 --> 1:41:07.160 we need to stop doing this. Both sides need to 1:41:07.160 --> 1:41:12.160 stop doing this. There's legal process and it shouldn't be undermined. Yes, 1:41:12.240 --> 1:41:16.880 but Trump politicized it no more than Biden and Obama did. 1:41:17.160 --> 1:41:20.240 In twenty twenty four, there was a poll, one of 1:41:20.320 --> 1:41:23.519 many in the summer of twenty twenty four. We're sixty 1:41:23.560 --> 1:41:27.000 percent of Americans, not sixty percent of MAGA, not sixty 1:41:27.040 --> 1:41:30.840 percent of Republicans. Sixty percent of Americans said that the 1:41:30.840 --> 1:41:35.960 four indictments and ninety one charges against Donald Trump was overkilled. 1:41:36.360 --> 1:41:37.960 I mean it was political. 1:41:38.479 --> 1:41:41.080 Now, no question, and Jeff Gilson on that we'll deal 1:41:41.120 --> 1:41:43.559 with Trump here in a moment. I'm watching a few 1:41:43.600 --> 1:41:47.720 days ago. Congressman used to be Congressman Adam Kinsinger of Illinois, 1:41:48.000 --> 1:41:50.880 who was a Republican. He went to the Iraqi War. 1:41:51.000 --> 1:41:53.880 Now he's an advisor to CNN. And one of the 1:41:53.920 --> 1:41:57.080 classic throwaway comments he made is that we all know, 1:41:57.560 --> 1:42:00.280 of course James Comy lied to Congress. Then he's but 1:42:00.360 --> 1:42:03.160 everyone does that, therefore it's I guess he meant to 1:42:03.200 --> 1:42:06.240 imply it's okay. And then CNN played the cuts of 1:42:06.320 --> 1:42:10.639 Senator Chuck Grassley asking specific questions to James Comy under 1:42:10.680 --> 1:42:13.719 oath in which there was a disparity, according to seeing 1:42:14.080 --> 1:42:19.240 a disparity between what Comy had testified to on one 1:42:19.280 --> 1:42:22.639 hand and reality on the other. In other words, Adam 1:42:22.720 --> 1:42:26.200 Kinzinger not a Trump supporter at all. Adam Kinzinger said, 1:42:26.479 --> 1:42:29.719 of course he lied, but everyone lies to Congress, therefore 1:42:29.720 --> 1:42:32.360 it's okay. And I'm thinking to myself, well, if ten 1:42:32.400 --> 1:42:36.200 banks are robbed and you arrest the arm robbers for 1:42:36.320 --> 1:42:38.559 one of the ten, you let him go free because 1:42:38.600 --> 1:42:40.680 the other nine were not arrested. The answer is no, 1:42:41.360 --> 1:42:45.280 and so comy in my view. On one side, the 1:42:45.280 --> 1:42:49.880 Democrats indicted Donald Trump repeatedly out of Atlanta, New York 1:42:49.880 --> 1:42:53.280 City and federally in two different jurisdictions that carried about 1:42:53.320 --> 1:42:55.960 seven hundred years in jail. And they did that according 1:42:56.000 --> 1:42:57.960 to the American people, and I believe that, as a 1:42:58.000 --> 1:43:01.400 former assistant Attorney general, that it was done for political 1:43:01.439 --> 1:43:04.599 reasons to stop him from running. And the media didn't 1:43:04.640 --> 1:43:07.639 cover it, how ridiculous it was to indict Donald Trump. 1:43:07.800 --> 1:43:10.920 They were cheerleaders on this hand, the media saying, how 1:43:11.000 --> 1:43:14.280 ridiculous is it to indict James Gami? How come the 1:43:14.320 --> 1:43:19.240 media is so inconsistent other coverage of these criminal investigations. 1:43:20.280 --> 1:43:23.200 Well, the reason for that, for that is that these 1:43:23.200 --> 1:43:25.599 people are hoping that the rest of us don't remember 1:43:25.640 --> 1:43:27.800 back ten years. Let's go back to it. Let's go 1:43:27.880 --> 1:43:32.240 back to our memory after this business, after we knew 1:43:32.280 --> 1:43:35.959 that in the summer twenty sixteen, there were these leaks 1:43:36.200 --> 1:43:41.280 about Trump and the Russian collusion, which Muller eventually debunked 1:43:41.439 --> 1:43:45.080 two years later. People forget that in January of twenty seventeen, 1:43:45.360 --> 1:43:48.200 when Obama was still in the office and Democrats would 1:43:48.200 --> 1:43:52.000 like to pretend there was no politicization of the DOJ, 1:43:52.520 --> 1:43:58.799 the non politicized Obama DOJ and in collusion with Coney 1:43:59.200 --> 1:44:04.639 at that time January twenty seventeen investigated and indicted Michael 1:44:04.720 --> 1:44:10.640 Flynn for exactly the same charges facing Kobe Line and obstruction. 1:44:11.080 --> 1:44:14.080 So if Kittinger is saying no one ever does anything 1:44:14.120 --> 1:44:19.680 about it, now, lots so true. You started it, and 1:44:19.720 --> 1:44:21.640 in fact, in fact that the Democrats. 1:44:21.760 --> 1:44:25.160 Yeah, is it fair to say the Democrats were the 1:44:25.200 --> 1:44:28.160 party when Trump was in the White House and out 1:44:28.200 --> 1:44:32.360 of the White House that launched these investigations resulting in indictments. 1:44:32.400 --> 1:44:35.120 And not just Donald Trump got indicted. There were thirty 1:44:35.160 --> 1:44:37.960 to forty others the National Seat. There were all kinds 1:44:38.000 --> 1:44:41.280 of regular people who were around the Trump orbit, and 1:44:41.320 --> 1:44:43.400 they wanted to indict them. I know how the game 1:44:43.479 --> 1:44:46.760 is played to testify against Donald Trump. Then deals would 1:44:46.760 --> 1:44:49.519 be offered to everyone around Donald Trump to get him. 1:44:49.560 --> 1:44:50.160 Is that correct? 1:44:51.240 --> 1:44:55.719 Well again, Bill, they like to think that we don't remember. Yeah, 1:44:55.760 --> 1:45:00.400 we all remember twenty three twenty four when JACKSONI and 1:45:00.520 --> 1:45:04.320 let Titia James and Fannie Willis, all of whom have 1:45:04.439 --> 1:45:08.160 been proven to have been colluding. Let's use that word. 1:45:08.200 --> 1:45:12.720 With Biden's DOJ, the legicization of the DOJ, all of 1:45:12.760 --> 1:45:17.240 them were trying to find people who would do deals. 1:45:17.560 --> 1:45:21.439 Michael Cohen. Anybody remember Michael Cohen, and he remember anyone 1:45:21.439 --> 1:45:24.519 remembered the fact he was offered a deal. Look, Bill, 1:45:24.880 --> 1:45:27.240 you and I you have your experience, I have mine. 1:45:27.640 --> 1:45:30.360 We all of us want to see this stopping. We 1:45:30.520 --> 1:45:32.880 all of us want to see the constitution and the 1:45:32.960 --> 1:45:36.160 rule of law in the United States made sacrisagged again. 1:45:36.520 --> 1:45:39.480 But for the Democrats to say it's only the Republicans 1:45:39.520 --> 1:45:44.200 and it's revenge is rubbish. This was started with delegitimizing 1:45:44.280 --> 1:45:49.320 elections and then with then politicizing the DOJ. That started 1:45:49.360 --> 1:45:53.040 under Obama, with Clinton and the Steve dossier. He carried 1:45:53.040 --> 1:45:56.559 on through Flynn. He carried on under Donald Trump when 1:45:56.600 --> 1:46:01.280 for two years Muller special counsel held out that Donald 1:46:01.320 --> 1:46:04.200 Trump was definitely going to be found guilty occlusion and 1:46:04.240 --> 1:46:07.280 then came out and said no, he wasn't. In then 1:46:07.360 --> 1:46:13.599 continuing under Biden Hunter Biden and the interference there and 1:46:13.600 --> 1:46:16.679 he continued with his pardon what we want to see 1:46:16.760 --> 1:46:18.680 is this stop? But it is not the case in 1:46:18.680 --> 1:46:21.200 my opinion, and I'll tell you something, Bill. I'm a liberal, 1:46:22.200 --> 1:46:24.320 I'm not a Republican. I didn't vote for Donald Trump. 1:46:24.680 --> 1:46:26.640 But what I have seen with Donald Trump is not 1:46:26.760 --> 1:46:30.120 that he's acting in revenge. He is merely picking up 1:46:30.640 --> 1:46:34.080 what happened in twenty sixteen. Well, people will say, why 1:46:34.080 --> 1:46:37.599 didn't he do that during his first term, because for 1:46:37.680 --> 1:46:41.599 two years at least the national security and law enforcement 1:46:41.640 --> 1:46:48.120 apparatus of Washington worked against him. James Clapper, Brennan Comy 1:46:48.520 --> 1:46:51.599 until he was fired, were all undermining his presidency. I'm 1:46:51.640 --> 1:46:52.439 not making this up. 1:46:52.760 --> 1:46:53.400 As a liberal. 1:46:53.400 --> 1:46:55.320 At the time, I wrote about this and said, people, 1:46:55.800 --> 1:46:58.320 what are we doing? This is not the way this 1:46:58.400 --> 1:47:03.240 is space to happen. Why are national security and dog 1:47:03.439 --> 1:47:08.280 people briefing against their president? Trump is now their president. 1:47:08.560 --> 1:47:11.280 That happened for two yearsn't it? Whilst until Muller came 1:47:11.360 --> 1:47:15.280 out pale faced and said there was no Russian pollusion, 1:47:15.840 --> 1:47:18.639 the people got a shock and suddenly realized that something 1:47:18.640 --> 1:47:22.040 else has been going on. It has nothing happened during Biden. 1:47:22.360 --> 1:47:25.920 It is only now that Trump and his loyal loyalists, 1:47:26.000 --> 1:47:28.679 unless he's appointed people who were loyal because the people 1:47:28.680 --> 1:47:31.679 who were there before weren't loyal. It is only now 1:47:31.920 --> 1:47:34.679 that he is starting to turn to this and it's 1:47:34.680 --> 1:47:38.160 been what ten months. Ten months isn't a long time. 1:47:38.560 --> 1:47:41.920 It took Jack Smith three years to indict We're not 1:47:42.040 --> 1:47:45.200 Jack Smith, but the DOJ three years to indict Donald Trump. 1:47:45.320 --> 1:47:48.479 So he's moving as fast as he can. Tony is 1:47:48.520 --> 1:47:51.599 only the beginning. It will continue with the Steele dossier, 1:47:51.880 --> 1:47:55.439 It will continue with Tulsey Gabbard's ICA report. This is 1:47:55.479 --> 1:47:58.679 only the beginning. And what everyone needs to do, in fact, 1:47:58.720 --> 1:48:02.599 with most matters political vote, is calm down and start 1:48:02.720 --> 1:48:04.080 trusting the process again. 1:48:04.479 --> 1:48:06.559 Jeff Gilson, I'm glad you admitted you're a liberal that 1:48:06.600 --> 1:48:09.519 didn't vote for Trump. Therefore your opinion mays may have 1:48:09.600 --> 1:48:12.040 more credibility than others. I would point out that a 1:48:12.120 --> 1:48:15.519 Keem Jeffries, the House Minority leader, said a few days ago, 1:48:15.840 --> 1:48:18.720 you know what goes around comes around. Whoever's involved in 1:48:18.720 --> 1:48:20.920 indicting James Coney. At some point we're going to be 1:48:20.960 --> 1:48:23.720 back in charge, and Donald Trump's wait a minute, goes 1:48:23.720 --> 1:48:26.960 around comes around. Now I'm coming the round because it's 1:48:27.000 --> 1:48:29.519 already happened to me and all my people wants, and 1:48:29.960 --> 1:48:32.840 at some point doesn't the madness have to stop at 1:48:32.840 --> 1:48:35.200 some point, at some point, the two parties got to 1:48:35.240 --> 1:48:35.680 stop it. 1:48:36.880 --> 1:48:40.000 Exactly, Bill and Frankly, I thank you for pointing up 1:48:40.040 --> 1:48:41.720 back to my liberal because I'll put my hand up 1:48:41.760 --> 1:48:45.360 and say this. I'll be the first. Let's get off 1:48:45.439 --> 1:48:49.200 the bandwagon. Let's stop this. This is doing nothing but 1:48:49.720 --> 1:48:53.799 causing people to lose trust in their government. In great Brittany, 1:48:53.880 --> 1:48:55.559 I picked up. I have an English accent. I'm an 1:48:55.600 --> 1:48:58.040 American citizen, but I was born and raised in England. 1:48:58.400 --> 1:49:00.519 We have a term that I really a joy. It's 1:49:00.560 --> 1:49:04.400 called the loyal opposition. You fight an election, you fight 1:49:04.439 --> 1:49:06.880 it with passion, you fight it with honor, and when 1:49:06.920 --> 1:49:09.680 you lose, you shake hands and you say we're going 1:49:09.680 --> 1:49:11.880 to be on your tail. We're going to oppose you, 1:49:11.920 --> 1:49:14.599 but we're going to do it loyally. We are loyal 1:49:14.640 --> 1:49:17.439 to the people. No one is being loyal to the people. 1:49:17.479 --> 1:49:19.800 With both sides at the moment are engaged in the 1:49:19.880 --> 1:49:23.880 screaming and the sloganeering, but particularly led by the Democrats. 1:49:24.120 --> 1:49:26.800 Well the Democrats ought to be saying, is we did this, 1:49:27.160 --> 1:49:29.240 we knew it was going to come around. We'll keep 1:49:29.800 --> 1:49:32.639 trust the trial, Well wait till that happens, Let's get 1:49:32.640 --> 1:49:35.040 on and avoid the shutdown, right, That's what they ought 1:49:35.040 --> 1:49:35.479 to be doing. 1:49:36.040 --> 1:49:40.280 You know, it used to be that the Democrats and Republicans. 1:49:40.360 --> 1:49:42.519 You may have more of a British orientation, but for 1:49:42.640 --> 1:49:46.560 decades centuries, the parties fought like crazy. The results of 1:49:46.560 --> 1:49:49.519 the election were known, and then Democrats and Republicans in 1:49:49.560 --> 1:49:51.439 the Senate of the House will get together and say, look, 1:49:51.600 --> 1:49:54.920 let's put aside our political garb for the next year 1:49:54.920 --> 1:49:56.920 and a half to two years. We'll worry about the 1:49:56.960 --> 1:50:00.160 next election a year from November, and let's fight find 1:50:00.200 --> 1:50:02.760 out how we can work together. That didn't work anymore. Well, 1:50:02.800 --> 1:50:05.879 I think what happened in twenty sixteen when Trump was elected. 1:50:05.920 --> 1:50:08.439 It was a shock to the system. The system did 1:50:08.479 --> 1:50:10.800 not believe he could win. And the system knew what 1:50:10.880 --> 1:50:13.240 they had done to Donald Trump, and they feared that 1:50:13.280 --> 1:50:17.080 when Trump got into power on January twenty seventeen, he 1:50:17.080 --> 1:50:19.800 would discover what the Democrats had done. So they kept 1:50:19.800 --> 1:50:23.679 the investigations going and kept the hunting going to ruin 1:50:23.880 --> 1:50:26.760 and to make him possible. Donald Trump going back in 1:50:26.800 --> 1:50:29.600 time doing diict those responsible for all the crap that 1:50:29.640 --> 1:50:32.000 he went through in twenty sixteen, and so they were 1:50:32.040 --> 1:50:35.000 successful to an extent. For the next four years, lots 1:50:35.000 --> 1:50:37.960 of stuff occurred. COVID happened. Near the end, you had 1:50:38.000 --> 1:50:41.719 the Moler investigation resulting in nothing. He was impeached two times, 1:50:41.920 --> 1:50:44.280 and then all of a sudden, the system said, wait 1:50:44.280 --> 1:50:46.880 a minute. In twenty I don't know twenty one twenty two, 1:50:47.160 --> 1:50:50.320 what happens if Trump runs for reelection. Oh my gosh, 1:50:50.400 --> 1:50:52.479 he's going to find out again what we've done to him, 1:50:52.720 --> 1:50:55.360 So we better go after him hard. So Fanny Willis, 1:50:55.520 --> 1:51:00.640 Nathan Wade, the New York prosecutors all had meetings in 1:51:00.720 --> 1:51:04.080 the White House to coordinate indictments, including in the state 1:51:04.080 --> 1:51:06.920 of Arizona. Alvin braggs is center of New York City, 1:51:07.080 --> 1:51:09.280 to indict Trump and everyone around him to make sure 1:51:09.320 --> 1:51:12.280 he didn't get back in power. And a boomeranged on him, 1:51:12.600 --> 1:51:16.120 a boomerang Jeff Gilson. The American people said, this looks terrible, 1:51:16.160 --> 1:51:18.559 this is wrong. I think part of the reason Trump 1:51:18.640 --> 1:51:21.320 won in twenty twenty four was what the Democrats did 1:51:21.400 --> 1:51:23.840 him in twenty one and twenty two. Sitting in that 1:51:23.880 --> 1:51:27.760 thirty filthy New York City courtroom, I had on his son, 1:51:27.920 --> 1:51:31.160 Eric Trump quite often talking about his father will not break. 1:51:31.360 --> 1:51:34.320 And then he was found guilty. He was guilty of 1:51:34.360 --> 1:51:37.879 some I don't know, forty or ninety some counts resulting 1:51:37.880 --> 1:51:40.840 in probation and nothing else. And so the Democrats played 1:51:40.880 --> 1:51:43.200 the game and lost. In twenty sixteen, they said, oh 1:51:43.240 --> 1:51:45.680 my god, here he comes again. Let's get him indict it. 1:51:45.920 --> 1:51:48.439 And then he won again. Now he'll cut He's coming 1:51:48.479 --> 1:51:51.799 back now with vengeance. And I think that's the difference. Vengeance. 1:51:52.280 --> 1:51:55.080 Well, you know what, you know what a bill I'm 1:51:55.120 --> 1:51:57.000 reminded of. There's no one else there, He's ryan else. 1:51:57.320 --> 1:52:02.120 But I'll introduce it. South Africa, Nelson Mandala released from 1:52:02.120 --> 1:52:05.679 prison and a black majority government and there was peaceing 1:52:05.760 --> 1:52:08.439 and there wasn't the civil war people were expecting. And 1:52:08.479 --> 1:52:12.400 I read of a meeting in one of the conferences 1:52:12.439 --> 1:52:16.240 between a white delegation and the black delegation about what 1:52:16.760 --> 1:52:22.880 should be done? How do we start talks? And the 1:52:22.880 --> 1:52:29.479 black leader, the leader who eventually killing president of Sada. Yeah, no, 1:52:29.560 --> 1:52:33.920 it was a guy called Mbikie. The This is while 1:52:33.960 --> 1:52:36.080 the Mandela was set of prison, and then Biki went 1:52:36.120 --> 1:52:39.040 to the white leader and said, look, what do we 1:52:39.080 --> 1:52:41.240 need to do to get talk starting. Why won't you start? 1:52:41.520 --> 1:52:44.200 Why won't you start the talks? And the white guy 1:52:44.280 --> 1:52:47.920 finally admitted. He said, we're terrified you'll never forgive us 1:52:48.240 --> 1:52:51.639 right right. And then Biki said, what do you need? 1:52:52.280 --> 1:52:54.320 And I came back and said, I've spoken with my 1:52:54.439 --> 1:52:56.880 president and he says, what are your terms? What are 1:52:56.880 --> 1:52:59.320 your conditions start talks? And Abiki looked a him in 1:52:59.320 --> 1:53:03.160 the eyes said none, There are no conditions. The past 1:53:03.240 --> 1:53:06.280 is past has billed a future. Amen, that's what we 1:53:06.439 --> 1:53:09.920 need Bill to do. Now, I'm reminded of something else. 1:53:10.040 --> 1:53:13.240 Maybe people will remember this. I remember and it's not 1:53:13.400 --> 1:53:15.920 just a story. It's true. At the end of every 1:53:15.960 --> 1:53:19.000 day in the eighties, Tip O'Neill would go to the 1:53:19.040 --> 1:53:21.800 White House, go into the Oval office and sit down 1:53:21.840 --> 1:53:24.800 with Ronald Reagan and have a glass of scotch. That 1:53:25.000 --> 1:53:28.040 politics has been lost and we need to find it again. 1:53:28.439 --> 1:53:33.680 Jeff Gilson no one. Yeah, your column is excellent and 1:53:33.880 --> 1:53:37.599 the headline is Comy Island former FBI director goes from 1:53:37.600 --> 1:53:40.839 top cop to castaway maroon and legal waters. I encourage 1:53:40.840 --> 1:53:42.639 people to get it. I love what you said about 1:53:42.680 --> 1:53:45.559 South Africa and about Tip O'Neil and Ronald Reagan. We 1:53:45.600 --> 1:53:49.720 need that back. Mutually assured destruction, cease fire. Let's move on. 1:53:50.160 --> 1:53:52.760 Jeff Gilson, I love this interview. Thanks for coming on 1:53:52.800 --> 1:53:55.120 the Bill Cunningham Show. And Jeff, you're a great American. 1:53:55.320 --> 1:53:57.479 Thank you very much. Thank you, Bill, God bless you. 1:53:57.680 --> 1:54:00.479 Let's continue. That guy's got it right right there, and 1:54:00.720 --> 1:54:03.000 this is revenge, but at some point it's got to stop. 1:54:03.040 --> 1:54:05.920 Go Cunningham the Great American. Live with you every Sunday 1:54:06.000 --> 1:54:15.960 Night by Billy Cunningham the Great American. Thanks for listening tonight. 1:54:16.080 --> 1:54:19.560 Loved hearing from Reverend Lucas Miles. One of the confidents 1:54:19.600 --> 1:54:22.640 of Charlie Kirk from Turning Point, USA book is the 1:54:22.680 --> 1:54:26.240 Pagan Threat, and the pagan threat is on college campuses. 1:54:26.560 --> 1:54:29.599 The pagan threat is out of Hollywood, the pagan threat 1:54:29.680 --> 1:54:33.280 is in the mayor's position and some police departments. The 1:54:33.280 --> 1:54:36.560 pagan threat is everywhere, and to get the book and 1:54:36.680 --> 1:54:39.879 understand the police do. Also, I want to thank especially 1:54:40.280 --> 1:54:45.120 Erica Sonsey of parents defending education about Ian Roberts and 1:54:45.160 --> 1:54:47.840 things of that character. How could that happen? How could 1:54:47.840 --> 1:54:49.800 he fall He fell through the ranks in Des Moines 1:54:49.840 --> 1:54:54.120 Iowa as a felon as a superintendent of schools because 1:54:54.440 --> 1:54:57.160 of his life story and because of his race, and 1:54:57.240 --> 1:55:00.400 the white liberals that run the school district into mine, 1:55:00.680 --> 1:55:03.840 eyes glazed over their head thinking about DEI Principles and 1:55:03.920 --> 1:55:07.720 somebody from Guyana, and they were responsible to properly screen 1:55:07.800 --> 1:55:10.840 this guy, and they failed to do so. Also, of course, 1:55:10.840 --> 1:55:13.560 I want to thank Jeff crue Air from New Orleans 1:55:13.600 --> 1:55:16.680 about the Komy situation is going to be arrained, I 1:55:16.720 --> 1:55:19.920 think on Thursday of this week. But as I said 1:55:19.920 --> 1:55:23.600 earlier tonight, I'd like to know more about how why 1:55:23.720 --> 1:55:27.480 was Charlie Kirk left so vulnerable in that position, and 1:55:27.520 --> 1:55:30.920 why weren't the tops of those buildings covered, much as 1:55:30.960 --> 1:55:32.520 I like to know why the top of the building 1:55:32.520 --> 1:55:34.840 wouldn't cover when Donald Trump came within a half an 1:55:34.840 --> 1:55:37.960 inch of being murdered. That thing is also rather quiet, 1:55:37.960 --> 1:55:40.600 and I do trust Cash Ptel and Dan BoNT you 1:55:40.720 --> 1:55:44.160 to give us the truth about Charlie Kirk. Let's continue 1:55:44.160 --> 1:55:46.480 with more next Sunday Night. Bill Cunningham with you every 1:55:46.680 --> 1:55:47.280 Sunday Night.