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Speaker 3: Exodens, the one and only Bill.

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Speaker 4: Cunningham, Billy Cunningham, the great American. Thanks for joining me

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Speaker 4: this evening. We had hoped, I think you had hoped

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Speaker 4: that somehow, by eight pm Eastern time tonight, a couple

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Speaker 4: hours ago, that there would have been some indication by

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Speaker 4: Hamas that they would accept the terms and release the

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Speaker 4: hostages that are alive and those that are dead back

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Speaker 4: to their families in exchange. Israel was prepared to release

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Speaker 4: about one thousand, one thousand terrorists back to Hamas. But

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Speaker 4: as we sit here now, it's still up in the air.

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Speaker 4: There's going to be more talks held tomorrow, I think

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Speaker 4: in Egypt, so we'll see what happens with that. If

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Speaker 4: it happens during the show tonight, you're going to be

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Speaker 4: first to learn about it. We'll see what happens. Secondly,

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Speaker 4: the absolute attack on law enforcement George Floyd style is

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Speaker 4: now happening in many major American cities that are completely

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Speaker 4: out of control. Portland, Chicago, Memphis. At the top of

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Speaker 4: the list. Washington, d C, according to the mayor, has

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Speaker 4: never been this calm and this good. When I speak

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Speaker 4: In fact, it is safe to walk around Washington, DC

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Speaker 4: and haven't been there a few years. Don't intend to

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Speaker 4: go back for a while. But it works. Have law

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Speaker 4: enforcement present works. One of the saddest things happening is

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Speaker 4: the headline now in the Chicago Tribune. Chicago police sources

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Speaker 4: blast the apartment's response after officers were told not to

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Speaker 4: help federal agents that were being hemmed in by several

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Speaker 4: cars and protesters who became riders. On Saturday morning, federal

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Speaker 4: agents were rammed and trapped by ten vehicles where anti

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Speaker 4: ICE crowds had gathered for days. Nearly a dozen people

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Speaker 4: had been arrested that an app went out and the

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Speaker 4: federal law enforcement, the ICE officials requested assistance, and they

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Speaker 4: were told no and reviewed a computer aided to dispatch

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Speaker 4: messages sent to Chicago police by the Chief of Patrol.

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Speaker 4: The message instructed Chicago police not to respond to the

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Speaker 4: ramming on the southwest side of the city in which

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Speaker 4: an armed woman was shot and agents were boxed in

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Speaker 4: and surrounded. Many Chicago police denied. Are extremely unhappy about this,

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Speaker 4: but it's the world on which we live. In the past,

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Speaker 4: when a app goes out, officer needs assistance, you drop

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Speaker 4: what you're doing and you run to the scene. You

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Speaker 4: save a fellow officer's life. In this case, the federal

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Speaker 4: law enforcement was put in risk of harm and death

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Speaker 4: and injury by these paid for mobs of left wing protesters,

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Speaker 4: and there was no help provided. And according to this statement,

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Speaker 4: the Chicago Police itself claimed that the officers failed to respond,

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Speaker 4: but they were sent to the scene to manage safety

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Speaker 4: and document the incident, so not to assist arrest the criminals.

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Speaker 4: Were rather to stand by and watch what's going on.

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Speaker 4: That's under the leadership of the mayor of Brandon Johnson.

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Speaker 4: I think now is approval ratings down to five or

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Speaker 4: six percent. Next year you have a chance in Chicago

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Speaker 4: to vote on that. It is sick and it's sad

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Speaker 4: because how many times if you're in law enforcement, if

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Speaker 4: I FBI, City of Columbus, whatever city you're in, and

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Speaker 4: an officer says officer needs assistance, no matter what it is,

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Speaker 4: The leadership in the city of Chicago said no, and

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Speaker 4: the heels of the comments this morning by Christy Noms

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Speaker 4: cartels and other terrorist organizations terrorist organizations are placing bounties

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Speaker 4: terrorist groups funded by many left wing groups and also

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Speaker 4: evidence that these terrorist groups George Floyd style have put

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Speaker 4: terrorist groups who are paid for by left wing organizations

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Speaker 4: on the heels of many attacks on federal law enforcement,

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Speaker 4: morning or during a protest, ten vehicles operated by terrorists,

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Speaker 4: not protesters. Terrorists boxed in federal law enforcement and ram

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Speaker 4: one of their vehicles. The officers inside could not move

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Speaker 4: who they are, where they live, etc. So these are

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Speaker 4: the George Floyd riots all over again, in which large

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Speaker 4: multinational foundations George Soros and others fund large amounts of

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Speaker 4: money to groups these so called paid protesters, paid rioters,

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Speaker 4: and they get carried away with what they're doing, and

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Speaker 4: Christy Nomas said that she's going to find out who's

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Speaker 4: organizing and paying for these don't call them protesters or demonstrators.

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Speaker 4: They're terrorists. Christian Noames that I was in Chicago two

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Speaker 4: days ago watching these terrorists and officers engage with them.

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Speaker 4: All the protesters are wearing the same gas masks, carrying

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Speaker 4: the same kind of signs. Many of them are printed

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Speaker 4: you google a protest on demand, it's right there. This

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Speaker 4: one large group. Actually they say we create out of

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Speaker 4: for our clients. These groups go on to say that

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Speaker 4: they're looking to create a buzz anywhere at Crowds on Demand.

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Speaker 4: We provide clients with passionate demonstrators, rally flash mobs, corporate

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Speaker 4: is what they say, and I certainly believe that's the case.

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Speaker 4: raising millions of dollars in order to create a crowd,

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Speaker 4: loud speakers, dressed appropriately, handing out the signs, and some

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Speaker 4: so wrong, it's awful. So also I want to comment

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Speaker 4: briefly if we can, about what's going on in des Moines, Iowa,

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Speaker 4: with DEI programming up and down the list. And he

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Speaker 4: was a DEI higher I won't call him doctor. Seemingly

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Speaker 4: I guess their campaign for Senate next year is on

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Speaker 4: issuing statements, accepting ultimately the resignation. Originally he was put

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Speaker 4: for God's sakes, and Homeland Security put out a laundry

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Speaker 4: list of the crimes that he's committed over the last

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Speaker 4: thirty some years, many involving drug use, possession of weapons,

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Speaker 4: loaded firearm. For thirty years, Roberts moved in and out

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Speaker 4: The rap sheet in history of immigration fraud is extensive.

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Speaker 4: He lied, repeatedly, committed numerous offenses. Finally caught up with

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Speaker 4: him by twenty twenty four. Under the Biden administration, another

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Speaker 4: final deportation order was issued because of the crimes he'd

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Speaker 4: And I would note that a couple hundred walked out

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Speaker 4: That shows you the extent of DEI seeping into the

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Speaker 4: body body politic in Des Moines, Iowa. For goodness, goodness sakes,

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Speaker 4: you can't imagine this. And for a long time Jackie

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Speaker 4: How are you doing doing well? Doing well? I think

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, And that's one of the things that I

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Speaker 4: We have large numbers of individual individuals illegally smoking marijuana

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Speaker 4: all over the city of Cincinnati and drug use. We

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Speaker 4: have about a thousand homeless doing all kinds of bad

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Speaker 4: stuff and the arrest don't take place because the mayor

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Speaker 4: and city council doesn't want it to happen. And the

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Speaker 4: same thing is true in Chicago. Being a Chicago cop

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Speaker 4: under Brandon Johnson's got to be a joke.

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Speaker 5: Well, and you want to know what's really scary too,

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Speaker 5: is I'm completely blind. I can't even imagine, do you

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Speaker 5: knowify myselfs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Alex, I say, I'm going to say a

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Speaker 4: prayer for you tonight and that somehow sanity must be

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Speaker 4: returned to the people of Wisconsin, the people of America.

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Speaker 4: Let's continue. Let's continue now with Thomas and the great

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Speaker 4: state of Florida. Thomas and Florida. Welcome to the Bill

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Speaker 4: Cunningham Show. Thomas Ower, I'm good, sure.

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Speaker 7: How are you, sir?

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Speaker 8: I'm a big fan of truck travery right now. I

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Speaker 8: was just mildly concern was you know again, I know

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Speaker 8: what the security with Charlie Kirk is that you know,

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Speaker 8: we have a we have a code gush truckers safety first,

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Speaker 8: and you know, I just thought that, you know, his

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Speaker 8: life might have been spared if there was more precautions,

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Speaker 8: like if the roof wasn't confirmed that they were secured,

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Speaker 8: you know, he should have never been out in public.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, I does that make any sense, like

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Speaker 8: he should have never been if there was any doubt

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Speaker 8: at all, if these guys would have combed the roof

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Speaker 8: or went above and beyond. Does that make any sense

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Speaker 8: to me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, you know, I read this story. They want

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Speaker 4: They wanted the roofs covered, and they were told by

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Speaker 4: their local police, we will cover the roof. Now, if

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Speaker 4: I'm one of the security guards, and I love Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 4: and I know Erica, and I know his I know

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Speaker 4: his kids. I know he's got a concern about getting shot.

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Speaker 4: And I'm looking around that event. Where am I looking.

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm looking twenty feet in front of me. Yes,

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Speaker 4: right there. But then you know you can you can

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Speaker 4: get eyeballs and those twenty people and you're armed in there.

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Speaker 4: That's a problem. I get. I get not having a

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Speaker 4: metal detector on a college campus. I get that. However,

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Speaker 4: those roofs after Butler County, Pennsylvania should have been covered

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Speaker 4: by somebody, and why they weren't. I want to hear

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Speaker 4: more about this because there's other people appearing in public

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Speaker 4: that you know, yours truly is going to be at

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Speaker 4: some turning point event in a public area, and I

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Speaker 4: like to look around and see if the roofs are covered.

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Speaker 4: The roofs have got to be covered, and they weren't,

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Speaker 4: and they were, and Charlie's guys were told we'll take

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Speaker 4: care of it.

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Speaker 8: That's a massive sir, that's the sage.

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Speaker 6: If they weren't covered.

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Speaker 8: Why would Charlie go out there? Why would they let

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Speaker 8: him out if they couldn't confirm that the roofs won't

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Speaker 8: carve right like you would think he would do a

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Speaker 8: last minute sorrow check. No, the roof's not covered, you're

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Speaker 8: not going out there, and just you know, insist, no, Charlie,

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Speaker 8: you're not going out. We can't come it. We don't

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Speaker 8: know if the roofs are covered, you can't go by

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Speaker 8: what right with? Other people are saying, okay, well we're

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Speaker 8: going to provide the security for you, right. Does that

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Speaker 8: make sense?

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Speaker 4: Yes? I watch. I watched the twenty minutes, the first

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Speaker 4: twenty minutes, and once I watched the actual bullet hitting

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Speaker 4: his throat and he was a sitting duck under that

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Speaker 4: tent from those roofs, and I just think was it

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Speaker 4: was it a lone wolf who didn't know what he

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Speaker 4: was doing, radicalized by his life, using his grandpa's rifle,

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Speaker 4: he kept it in an area that was going to

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Speaker 4: be found. Why does an assassin do that? I have

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Speaker 4: no idea. Why did Lee Harvey Oswald leave behind the

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Speaker 4: gun at the six floor? I don't know why criminals. Sure,

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Speaker 4: I don't know why that's the case, but Thomas, I'd

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Speaker 4: like to have a more thorough investigation. I like to

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Speaker 4: have Dan Bongino and FBI Director Patel and others say,

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Speaker 4: at some point, Okay, it's been my gosh, I can't

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Speaker 4: believe it's been almost thirty thirty days, but we are

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Speaker 4: to have some indication happened September September tenth. We got

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Speaker 4: to have some indication that we're gonna investigate this thing.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna find out what happened, how it happened, why

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Speaker 4: this event take place, to teach us how to handle

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Speaker 4: other events. I mean, in the Kennedy assassination, the idea

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Speaker 4: of a president riding through a major city with no

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Speaker 4: bubble up and waving at people like John F. Kennedy

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Speaker 4: and Dealey Plaza until that happened, That happened all the time.

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Speaker 4: I can see pictures of him in Ireland and thousands

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Speaker 4: of people, and put him in a situation where if

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Speaker 4: somebody wanted to assassinate him, it was obvious there's John F.

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Speaker 4: Kennedy's head right there. And after what happened in Butler County, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 4: I would like to think that an area one hundred

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Speaker 4: and fifty yards away with a perfect line of sight

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Speaker 4: to Charlie Kirk. It's something I like to have somebody

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Speaker 4: tell me FBI Director Patel or Dan Bongino or somebody

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Speaker 4: Cash is to say, you know what, we're investigating this thing,

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Speaker 4: and it is everything we're being told accurate that somehow

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Speaker 4: this kid who was radicalized by the sewer of left

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Speaker 4: wing politics, who was shall we say, dating or living

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Speaker 4: with a transsexual, a transgender individual who hated Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 4: Because by the way, Charlie Kirk had love in his

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Speaker 4: heart for everyone. Race create made no difference. I've watched it.

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Speaker 4: I watched him perform often with African Americans, with gay individuals, transgender,

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Speaker 4: whatever it is, love in his heart for everyone. It's

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Speaker 4: a lie that he was anti Semitic, or that he

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Speaker 4: was anti black or and I gay, whatever it might,

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Speaker 4: it was a lie. And I just like to have

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Speaker 4: Cash Ptell or Dan Bongino at some point say we're

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Speaker 4: going to conduct a thorough investigation, which they've done now

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Speaker 4: with the assassin, But what happened that allowed that assassin

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Speaker 4: to be on the roof. What happened in Butler County, PA.

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Speaker 4: That allowed that attempt at assassin to be in that position.

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Speaker 4: And for the last long since what last August, that

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Speaker 4: story is dead as a doornail. How did it happen?

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Speaker 4: How did you get the weapon? There's been no reporting

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Speaker 4: on it at all. And now I use the term

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Speaker 4: our guys are involved. Our guys are involved. Let's take

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Speaker 4: a short break. I think the next call might be

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Speaker 4: from Russia. So we're gonna get to Russia find out

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Speaker 4: what the feeling is. Plus, I want to set up

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Speaker 4: the rest of tonight's big show. Bill Cunningham, the Great

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00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 4: American with you every Sunday night. All right, Now, we

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Speaker 4: don't get a lot of calls from Moscow, I mean Russia,

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Speaker 4: Bob and Moscow, Russia. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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Speaker 4: Didn't you call me about a year ago? Year or

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Speaker 4: two ago?

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Speaker 7: Ps year or two ago? And I'm still here. I

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Speaker 7: have a I'm a Catholic also, and I have everything

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Speaker 7: that's going on with I'm Charlie Kirk, Donald Trump. All

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Speaker 7: this all started with Pope John the Second when he

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Speaker 7: was shot, same situation. He loved the people, took care

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Speaker 7: of the not the rich, the wealth, He's took care

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Speaker 7: of all people. His shooting is the same thing that

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Speaker 7: happened with Donald Trump shooting is the same thing that

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Speaker 7: happened with Charlie kirk shooting. They're trying to eliminate.

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Speaker 5: People that actually care about.

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Speaker 7: The world in the United States, and they're all similar situations.

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Speaker 7: They're all tied together, no security.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazed that someone could get one hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty yards away from Donald Trump in the summertime of

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four with a claire shot at his head.

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Speaker 4: And the only reason the trump Ster lives is that

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Speaker 4: he went to tarned to the right, which you seldom

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Speaker 4: did that early, to look at a chart and that

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Speaker 4: saved his life. By the way, can you tell me

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Speaker 4: the status of living in Russia today? I read things

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Speaker 4: like long lines for gasoline. There's a little bit of

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Speaker 4: bubbling uncertainty about Vladimir boutin Russia, maybe in the virtue

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Speaker 4: of collapse. Do you feel comfortable talking about that.

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Speaker 7: I can talk something, but first of all, I want

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Speaker 7: just to finish up with what we're talking about with

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Speaker 7: what one with Charlie Kirk. What is the similarity between

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Speaker 7: the shooting of Charlie Kirk and the shooting of John

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Speaker 7: Paul the Second.

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Speaker 4: Well, you tell me one was a bulgarian or something

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Speaker 4: who hated what John Paul the second student, No, no.

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Speaker 7: No, Charlie Kirk's wife forgave the man. John Paul the

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Speaker 7: Second for gave the man.

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Speaker 4: In fact, he met with that, he met with him.

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Speaker 7: That's what believing in gotda being a true catholicus you forget,

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Speaker 7: you know, it's very hard.

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Speaker 4: Well, the Christ forgave the thaif on the cross next

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Speaker 4: to them, he forgave him tonight. And so John Paul

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Speaker 4: the Second when I got out of the hospital, met

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Speaker 4: with that bulgarian and forgave him. And Erica Kirk two

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Speaker 4: days after the event, having just kissed her husband's forehead

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Speaker 4: when they shut the coffin, forgave the murderer of her husband. Now,

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Speaker 4: how about that?

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Speaker 6: And that?

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Speaker 7: And that's what a true believer in God and faith

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Speaker 7: and the Lord Jesus Christ does. But getting back to Moscow,

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Speaker 7: the only places there's lyes for gasoline are just like

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Speaker 7: what happens in the United Stits in California, I'm sure

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Speaker 7: because of the refinery's burning there right, there's could be

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Speaker 7: lyings in Gasolina type for Gasolina type because when he

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Speaker 7: cut off supply at some point, there's could be lyings.

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Speaker 7: Everything's gotten more expensive, just like in the United States.

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Speaker 7: But part of the reason why I'm here is because

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Speaker 7: my healthcare in the European healthcare system that's available over

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Speaker 7: here that's not available in the United States. Medicines from

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Speaker 7: Germany are so much cheaper. I paid one. I'm sixty

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Speaker 7: three years old. I paid one five hundred dollars a

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Speaker 7: year for full coverage of healthcare, private coverage, without coverage

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Speaker 7: for medication.

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Speaker 4: Well, what about living in a communist country with Vladimir

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Speaker 4: pot and you just keep your head down and don't

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Speaker 4: say anything bad about the government.

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Speaker 7: Actually, if you haven't lived in a foreign country or

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Speaker 7: lived here, I actually have more freedom here to speak

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Speaker 7: about Christianity or walk. And I'm sixty three years old.

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Speaker 7: There's not a place in Moscow right now than I'm

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Speaker 7: not afraid to walk it in the evening or at

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Speaker 7: night by myself. So there's pros and cons of both countries.

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Speaker 7: I mean the governments are different, yes, but things are

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Speaker 7: more straightforward here right now than they are in America.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you go to a pro sporting event. In America,

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Speaker 7: half the people are drunk. Now, you go to a pro,

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Speaker 7: go to a you go to a pro sporting events.

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Speaker 7: Here in Russia, no alcohol is service.

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Speaker 4: We have to run. Call me back in a few months.

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Speaker 4: But I would not want to live in the communist country,

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Speaker 4: no matter any circumstances. Although there are elements of safety

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Speaker 4: there that aren't existing here. But I'm an American, Bob,

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Speaker 4: thanks for calling me. Coming up, We're going to put

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Speaker 4: a call into the Reverend Lucas Miles re Turning Point, USA.

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Speaker 4: the tenth, a terrible event took place. Some have compared

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Speaker 4: is the murder of Charlie Kirk in Utah. It was

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Speaker 4: incredibly It broke about quarter to three Eastern time, a

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Speaker 4: flash across the screen. I was on the air when

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Speaker 4: it happened, and talk about a shock. And here we

652
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Speaker 4: are three or four weeks later and still having a

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Speaker 4: process exactly the impact of this janan you and on

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Speaker 4: alis Pastor Lucas Miles, he's the senior director of Turning

655
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Speaker 4: Point USA Faith and best selling author. Book is out

656
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Speaker 4: of brand new one which is Pagan Threat Confronting America's

657
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Speaker 4: Godless Uprising. And Reverend Miles, welcome, I think for the

658
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Speaker 4: first time to the Bill Cunningham Show before we talk

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Speaker 4: about your book, which is number one everywhere. I think

660
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Speaker 4: it'll double and triple and sales says the work gets

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Speaker 4: out even more. Can you talk about where you were

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Speaker 4: when you learned that Charlie had been murdered and the

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Speaker 4: impact on his organization.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I was actually out of the country when I

665
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Speaker 10: got the news. We'd had a very busy you know,

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Speaker 10: obviously last eighteen months or so with my role there

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Speaker 10: at TPUSA Faith, and I had talked to Charlie and

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Speaker 10: told him, I said, hey, we're looking taking vacation He's like, yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 10: go just get away, just shut everything down and just

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Speaker 10: you need that time. And my wife and I were

671
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Speaker 10: down in Arubo with another dear couple friend of ours,

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Speaker 10: and my assistant had told me, he said, I'm not

673
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Speaker 10: only going to call you if something major happens. And

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Speaker 10: I'm sitting by the pool down there, middle of our

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Speaker 10: trip and I see the phone ring and my heart

676
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Speaker 10: just sank. I knew right away something was wrong. He

677
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Speaker 10: told me Charlie had been shot. We don't know how

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Speaker 10: bad it is. Start getting home now, and we weren't

679
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Speaker 10: able to get a flight for the next day, and

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Speaker 10: it's it's just been NonStop since then.

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Speaker 4: Lucas Miles, why did you have that feeling? Were you?

682
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Speaker 4: Were you foretold? Was it predicted? I've seen some of

683
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Speaker 4: the YouTube clips about Charlie Kirk talking about his death.

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Speaker 4: Not too many thirty one year olds talk about their death.

685
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Speaker 4: Why'd you have that pit in your stomach?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 10: I just knew I was only going to get a

688
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Speaker 10: call if something was wrong. Otherwise my assistant would have

689
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Speaker 10: emailed me, he would have sent me a message on

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Speaker 10: telegram to look at later. But when I saw the

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Speaker 10: phone ring, I knew it wasn't good. Now, I didn't know,

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Speaker 10: you know, it wasn't my wildest imagination that that was

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Speaker 10: going to be what the call was. But I just

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Speaker 10: knew something was problematic at a higher level at that point,

695
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Speaker 10: and you know, it just didn't seem real. It still

696
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 10: doesn't seem real, honestly. It's just, you know, you kind

697
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Speaker 10: of go back and forth between that grief and denial,

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Speaker 10: and I just want to text Charlie and ask him,

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Speaker 10: you know, what does he think about all this, you know,

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Speaker 10: or what do we do next?

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Speaker 11: You know?

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Speaker 10: And so I think all of our staff is kind

703
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Speaker 10: of going through that process. But I'll tell you what,

704
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Speaker 10: there is such a spirit of resolve over the whole

705
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Speaker 10: team at TPUSA. Charlie was such a great leader. He

706
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Speaker 10: laid out an action plan for a really long time.

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Speaker 10: There's you know, Erica, you know, everybody is. She's just

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Speaker 10: been a stabilizing force for the whole organization. And so,

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Speaker 10: you know, we're filled with grief, but there's a lot

710
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Speaker 10: of work to do, and in Charlie Kirk fashion, we're

711
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Speaker 10: getting up and we're going back to work. And we

712
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Speaker 10: got a country and a world to.

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Speaker 4: Save here and without America. The world has lost this

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Speaker 4: submission of Charlie Kirk's beginning about thirteen or fourteen years ago,

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Speaker 4: was impossible to go on college campuses. I've seen hundreds

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Speaker 4: of hours of YouTube clips of what happens to them

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Speaker 4: on college campuses. He wins almost every argument because he right,

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Speaker 4: what are some of the threats? What do you diagnosis

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Speaker 4: and threats we face as America.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, So in my book pagan Threat, one of the

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Speaker 10: things I try to bring people's attention to, and whately

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Speaker 10: the thesis of it is this is that you know,

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Speaker 10: by and large, paganism as a whole was dead.

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Speaker 7: GK.

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Speaker 10: Chesterton said so himself. But the problem with paganism is

726
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Speaker 10: it tends to resurface periodically. And so what is happening

727
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Speaker 10: now is in order for a Marxist agenda to be

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Speaker 10: able to thrive in America, America, Americans have to forget

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Speaker 10: their Christian worldview. We have to forget our roots. We

730
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Speaker 10: have to, you know, so you have to tear down statues,

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Speaker 10: you have to you have to wipe away the memory

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Speaker 10: of any sort of history that points to Christ or

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Speaker 10: our Christian founding. And so in order to do that,

734
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Speaker 10: they're thrusting this paganism onto our youth of today. You know,

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Speaker 10: everything from witchcraft, a sorcery, to the occult to you know,

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Speaker 10: it's in movies, it's in TV, it's in pop culture,

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Speaker 10: it's in music. And they're just trying to change the ethos,

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Speaker 10: the the moral standard in America because if they can

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Speaker 10: do that, and they reduce the value of human life

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Speaker 10: that the Christian worldview promotes, then they can actually institute

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Speaker 10: a Marxist takeover this nation.

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Speaker 4: You talk about abortion on demand, including the abortion pills,

743
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Speaker 4: talk about ubiquitous crime everywhere. The presidents finally sent in

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Speaker 4: some federal troops to Portland and the Memphis to tamp

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Speaker 4: it down. You talk about what's happening on college campuses

746
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Speaker 4: relative to the indoctrination to the left, and it almost

747
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Speaker 4: seems insurmountable. And at this point I worried that after

748
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Speaker 4: Charlie was murdered on September the tenth, that the movement itself,

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Speaker 4: after three to six to nine months would dissipate, that

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Speaker 4: the leaders such as yourself, pastor Lucas Miles, would find

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Speaker 4: other events, other things would happening. We're not quite a

752
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Speaker 4: month out. What is your feeling looking back as far

753
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Speaker 4: as planning the next several years. So the messenger was murdered,

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Speaker 4: but the message must live in a structural way. He

755
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Speaker 4: was the rock star. He was a Paul McCartney of

756
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Speaker 4: the Beatles, you know, he was Elvis. He was the guy.

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Speaker 4: And when you lose that kind of a messenger Martin

758
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Speaker 4: Luther King Junior type, it's really difficult to find Ralph

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Speaker 4: Abernathy to take his place. In fact, no one ever could.

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Speaker 4: Do you have a concern looking back in five years,

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Speaker 4: those five years ago by quickly as the last five

762
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Speaker 4: years have gone by. Why do you have such confidence

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Speaker 4: that this movement will not die with the messenger having

764
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Speaker 4: been killed, but the message must live. Why do you

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Speaker 4: say that?

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Speaker 10: You know, I think there's a couple of things we

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Speaker 10: have to look off look at. So, first off, when

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Speaker 10: it comes to turning point, USA, Charlie, build a really

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Speaker 10: strong bench, our board, our contributors, our c suite level

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Speaker 10: team members. Now having Erica as CEO, we are in

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Speaker 10: a really strong position. Our donors are committed. I think

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Speaker 10: the nation is behind us, our churches are committed to

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Speaker 10: working with us, and so there's a lot of unity

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Speaker 10: and structure there to be able to sustain this for

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Speaker 10: years to come. And we have so much of Charlie's content.

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Speaker 10: Although he has gone from this earth in a physical sense,

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Speaker 10: his voice is going to ring out and we're going

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Speaker 10: to make sure of it for literally decades and decades

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Speaker 10: to come, and so that every you know, he's immortalized

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Speaker 10: now in the sense that you know, he's forever young,

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Speaker 10: his voice is going to stay that way. The difference

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Speaker 10: between some of these other movements we've seen in the past,

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Speaker 10: with MLK and others, is that, you know, we didn't have,

784
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Speaker 10: you know, hundreds of thousands of hours of four K

785
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Speaker 10: video content with three different angles to be able to

786
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Speaker 10: really share the heart. So Charlie is still speaking today

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Speaker 10: all over the Internet and that's going to continue. I

788
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Speaker 10: think additionally, when it comes to revival, that component of it,

789
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Speaker 10: you know, God brings revival. This is something we can't

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Speaker 10: just fabricate, but I think that we can help stewart it,

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Speaker 10: and so we're working with our churches and that's really

792
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Speaker 10: my primary role is working with churches across the country

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Speaker 10: to help stewart this season of revival. My own church

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Speaker 10: has doubled in attendance during this timeframe. I've gotten that

795
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Speaker 10: same message from so many other pastors across the country.

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Speaker 10: There's a move of God happening right now, and I think,

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Speaker 10: you know, we just we can't Charlie Kirk. I'm never

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Speaker 10: going to be Charlie Kirk. Nobody else is ever going

799
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Speaker 10: to be Charlie Kirk. I just want to be the

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Speaker 10: best Lucas Miles that I can in my generation to

801
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Speaker 10: fulfill what God. You know, He's always on my life.

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Speaker 4: Reveren, if you can talk about the lost white male,

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Speaker 4: I've seen all the reports the studies had on a

804
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Speaker 4: guest from The New York Times a couple months ago

805
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Speaker 4: about the lost white male who finds himself disconnected, disjoin it,

806
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Speaker 4: has no personal relationships, someone lost in the world of

807
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Speaker 4: porn or lost in the world of gaming. The murder

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Speaker 4: of Charlie Kirk seemingly was lost in both worlds. He

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Speaker 4: was a young man. You have pictures of young men

810
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Speaker 4: that have created caused many of these disasters, political assassinations.

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Speaker 4: You have the event Mormon Church Later Day Saints fifty

812
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Speaker 4: miles north of Detroit being leveled to the ground. And

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Speaker 4: that guy was like thirty nine or forty years old.

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Speaker 4: But he had brain difficulties. How do you address yourself

815
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Speaker 4: to the lost to white male who feels as if

816
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Speaker 4: he lives in a toxic male oriented society. Male toxicity

817
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Speaker 4: is everywhere. I watched Charlie Kirk's response to the to

818
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Speaker 4: the toxic mail and it was a beautiful response. But

819
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Speaker 4: can you address yourself to the lost white male?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, So, you know what we're seeing right now is that.

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Speaker 10: And I think it's important to recognize across this entire generation,

823
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Speaker 10: and this would go for probably millennials as well as

824
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 10: gen z is there is a tremendous amount of trauma

825
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 10: that these generations have endured and sustained, you know, and

826
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Speaker 10: you've got to remember, at forty years old, that individual

827
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Speaker 10: is a millennial, right, you know, the older millennials are

828
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Speaker 10: forty years old now, and so you know, in the

829
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Speaker 10: case of the Mormon shooting and so the you know, this,

830
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Speaker 10: this is what's it, you know, contributed by starts with

831
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Speaker 10: nine to eleven, multiple wars in the Middle East. We

832
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Speaker 10: have things like that, you know, Columbine and the rise

833
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Speaker 10: of school shootings. At the same time, you have this

834
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Speaker 10: increase of the digital footprint, video games, dark places in

835
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Speaker 10: the internet, chat rooms and forums, you know, places to

836
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Speaker 10: explore and you know kind of get into all these

837
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Speaker 10: emotional things that people are feeling that turn very dark

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Speaker 10: oftentimes you have you know, combined with that, we see

839
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Speaker 10: the rise of gender ideology transcault, We have COVID, We

840
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Speaker 10: have the isolation that was experienced a lot of these

841
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 10: younger people. They missed prom they didn't get to date anybody,

842
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Speaker 10: they didn't get to you know, run around with their

843
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Speaker 10: car and you know, with friends and hang out. There

844
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Speaker 10: was isolation. They were stuck in their house, they were

845
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Speaker 10: doing school by video, and there's ramifications of that. We

846
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Speaker 10: were all warning about that during COVID, and now we're

847
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Speaker 10: seeing the fruit of those policies you know, played out,

848
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Speaker 10: and so we have to go to where these people are.

849
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Speaker 10: We have to reach them. Charlie was just a brilliant

850
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 10: strategist at reaching people in the digital space. And you know,

851
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 10: his video has been seen by literally billions of people

852
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 10: and they're going to continue to be seen. But we

853
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 10: have to keep being you know, strategic in our generation.

854
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 10: You know, Charlie is not here physically to you know,

855
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 10: to do that himself. We got to pick up the

856
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 10: baton and every single one of us, you know, have

857
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 10: to do our part to really build, to reach people,

858
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Speaker 10: to help the hurt and ultimately lead them to Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 4: Pastor Lucas Miles. I saw a treaty he's on Salon,

860
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Speaker 4: a website that I'm sure many do not attend, but

861
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Speaker 4: nonetheless it's a liberal website about the message with Charlie

862
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Speaker 4: Kirk being anti female. The message was it is very

863
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Speaker 4: positive to meet a man, to be in a sense

864
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 4: him the leader of the family. He's to protect to

865
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Speaker 4: the provider, and that is a mother. To stay at

866
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Speaker 4: home is anti female. The average female today gets married

867
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Speaker 4: when she's about twenty nine, the average male about thirty one.

868
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 4: And so therefore the message is stay at home, barefoot

869
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 4: and pregnant and cook, prepare dinner, and be the homemaker.

870
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 4: And that message by Salon was terrible that girls and

871
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Speaker 4: young women are being told the only way you can

872
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 4: be successful in life is to find a man, to

873
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Speaker 4: get married, to have children, to be a homemaker. And

874
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 4: the Salon, a liberal website, says Charlie Kirk's message was

875
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 4: anti female, trying to hold women back. How would you

876
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 4: respond to that.

877
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 10: One, Well, I would say if he's trying to hold

878
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 10: women back. He did a very bad job of it

879
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 10: because so many of our staff at GPUSA are female

880
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 10: and they're executives and their leaders within the organization. Charlie

881
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 10: was a champion of a humanity period. He believed in

882
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 10: and understood the Biblical design that we see there's differences

883
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 10: between men and women, and we celebrate those differences. That

884
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 10: doesn't mean that you know, uh, there has to be

885
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 10: this or that they're you know, there shouldn't. That never

886
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 10: leads to dominance. That never leads to you know, control

887
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 10: in some sort of sense. We would be, you know,

888
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 10: against anything like that. In scripture, would be against anything

889
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 10: like that. And so I think that you know, you

890
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 10: see these things. Obviously they're taking one sound bite and

891
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 10: they're going to use that and pull that out of context.

892
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 10: But I think those around Charlie, those that watched his videos,

893
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 10: you know, a lot of his base was were females

894
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 10: that were finding freedom and hope and encouragement in the

895
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 10: message that he was sharing about liberty and about Jesus

896
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 10: Christ and about family and really how to you know,

897
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 10: follow God's plan for your life. And I think that

898
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 10: those that you know, uh, actually tuned in to hear

899
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 10: his full statements on those things. That's what they experienced.

900
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 4: Pastor Lucas Miles. A turning point, uh is this is

901
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 4: this movement open to Jews, to Muslims, to seeks to

902
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 4: those who do not believe in God whatsoever. The three

903
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 4: points of Charlie Kirk was number one God and number

904
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 4: two is family. Number three is America. Is this message

905
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 4: if you're a Jew, if you're a Muslim, if you're

906
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 4: a Sikh, if you're some other sect I guess a

907
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 4: Mormon certainly is the best people I've ever met in

908
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 4: my life are Mormons, by the way. But nonetheless, is

909
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 4: this message open to Jews and the Muslims?

910
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 10: I think it depends on what message we're talking about. So,

911
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 10: first off, the message of the Gospel of Jesus Christ

912
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 10: is open to all people who would put their faith

913
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 10: in him. That is the inclusivity of the gospel. But

914
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 10: the exclusivity of the gospel is that only those who

915
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 10: receive Him by faith are able to become children of God.

916
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 10: That's from a Christian theological standpoint. But if we're talking

917
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 10: about the message of conservatism, the message of liberty, the

918
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 10: message of some of the work that say, maybe our

919
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 10: secular side at Turning Point Action or Turning Point USA

920
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 10: is doing on college campuses that you will find, you know,

921
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 10: Charlie was always a big tent, you know, thinker. We

922
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 10: have people from all different backgrounds, you know that that

923
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 10: have come alongside the Turning Point brand that have been

924
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 10: part of our chapters, have been part of our groups.

925
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 10: And that's not something that is inherently Christian to that,

926
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 10: although a lot of our people happened to be Christians,

927
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 10: and I think that that liberty and freedom you know,

928
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 10: really originate from a Christian idea in that sense. But

929
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 10: we have people from all different backgrounds that partner with us.

930
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 7: You see that.

931
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 10: You know, we're you know, even displayed in some of

932
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 10: our speakers, you know that we work with. So I

933
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 10: oversee you know tp USA faith, which is you know,

934
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 10: kind of our our our church driven arm of that.

935
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 10: So I work with a little bit different base of

936
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 10: individuals than what Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action

937
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 10: you know, are working in within a daily basis.

938
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 4: Is it dangerous out there? I saw what happened in

939
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 4: Tennessee State University and which there were three or four

940
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 4: representatives and they were literally had their placards, they were

941
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: torn up, the chairs who were overthrown. There was like

942
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 4: a mini riot. The police show up even after the

943
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 4: death has been almost a month now of Charlie Kirk.

944
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 4: And is it still dangerous out there to be a

945
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 4: Christian to believe in God, family and country? How dangerous

946
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 4: isn't And have you seen the recent videos on college campuses.

947
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 4: The violence has not stopped.

948
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 10: You know, I think it's been dangerous to be a

949
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 10: Christian for about two thousand years, and I think that

950
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 10: it's going to continue to be dangerous to be a

951
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 10: Christian until the Lord returns. The Bible says in John

952
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 10: fifteen that you know, Jesus says specifically that they will

953
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 10: hate you because they hated me first talking about himself,

954
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 10: and so you know, we know that there is a

955
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 10: hatred for Christians in this world because people who are

956
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 10: rebelling against God and have hatred for God are going

957
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 10: to hate His children, his people, his name, his voice

958
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 10: in any of those sayss I believe that Charlie was

959
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 10: silenced not for his political views, but because he was

960
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 10: a Christian, because he stood on biblical principles, because he

961
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,959
Speaker 10: testified to his faith. He died of murder, and so yeah,

962
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 10: it is dangerous, but you know, our love in the

963
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 10: same way that God loves us enough to send his

964
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 10: son to die, we love the world enough in Christ

965
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 10: to be willing to put ourselves in dangerous positions and

966
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 10: at the risk of personal peril in order to share

967
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 10: this gospel. Obviously, we want to be smart. I would

968
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 10: encourage any church out there they should have security right

969
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 10: now that if they should be rethinking their plan. We've

970
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 10: seen an uptick in church violence, all of those things.

971
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 10: All of us have to be thinking about this. This

972
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 10: is not just you know, turning point USA, but but ultimately,

973
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 10: you know, we believe that this life, it's a butt

974
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 10: of vapor and it is worth the risk to be

975
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 10: able to lead somebody else to you know, out of

976
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,479
Speaker 10: a pit of hell into an eternal relationship with Jesus Christ.

977
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 4: Now, lastly, how's Erica doing?

978
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 11: Is she?

979
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 4: Her speech I thought two days after the event was

980
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 4: one of the greatest things I've ever seen. It was,

981
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 4: I believe. It was on Friday night, about nine pm,

982
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 4: two days after her husband was murdered, and she related

983
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 4: somewhere that she wanted to to see his body.

984
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 7: Uh.

985
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 4: He she went into the morgue and and looked at

986
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 4: his face in the hand, a slight smile on his face,

987
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 4: and she said, it's relatable because the second he was dead,

988
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 4: the next second he saw the face of Christ and

989
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 4: that was reflected on his face. How's Erica doing?

990
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 10: You know? I think anybody who goes through tragedy and

991
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 10: and just just such a heinous event at this level

992
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 10: is going to have a wide array of emotions. All

993
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 10: of us here, you know, we are cycling through feelings

994
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 10: of you know, probably disbelief and anger and these things.

995
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 10: But I think Erica has made very clear, you know,

996
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 10: where she stands on this. We saw her ability to

997
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 10: really just grab a hold of God's grace and unconditional

998
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 10: love and something that was truly supernatural when she, you know,

999
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 10: uttered those words, I forgive you, know, I forgive you.

1000
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 10: I mean, this is it's so powerful. It's this is

1001
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 10: a difficult time, as you can imagine, but God's grace

1002
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 10: is really, you know, I think, falling on all of

1003
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 10: us here at TPUSA, and I think that we've really

1004
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 10: looked to Erica to to be able to be that

1005
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 10: stabilizing for or see her navigate through this with such

1006
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 10: resolve and grace and strength and stability despite a men's

1007
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 10: pain has been a real unifying factor. I think for

1008
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 10: all of us.

1009
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 4: Pastor Lucas Miles, thank you the book as Pagan Threat,

1010
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 4: and that title puts the cheese on the cracker. Pagan threat.

1011
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 4: It's everywhere. Pastor Lucas Miles, You're a great American. Bill Cunningham,

1012
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 4: the Great American. Live with you every Sunday Night by

1013
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 4: Billy cunning in the Great American. And I will continue

1014
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 4: to follow what's happening with Turning Point USA had Charlie

1015
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 4: Kirk on a couple of times. I've met myself available

1016
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 4: in Midwest to go to certain rallies. I will stand

1017
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 4: up tall and proud for the legacy of Charlie Kirk.

1018
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 4: So when you have a Pagan threat book written by

1019
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 4: Reverend Lucas Miles, who is a close associate of Charlie

1020
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 4: Kirk and things of that character, I kind of want

1021
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 4: to stay close to this group because this bullet cannot

1022
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 4: change the trajectory of what Charlie Kirk contended. It simply

1023
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 4: cannot happen. All let's continue with more coming up next.

1024
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 4: As Erica Snsey, she's the founder of Parents defending education.

1025
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 4: Bill cunning Him to Great American with you every Sunday night,

1026
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, if you've listened

1027
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 4: to me the past several years, certainly public education isn't

1028
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 4: complete turmoil. Although I'm very familiar with happening in Cincinnati

1029
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 4: public schools, the same as true in Chicago or Austin,

1030
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 4: or Sacramento or New York. I could not imagine being

1031
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 4: in Atlanta public school where that its education must be.

1032
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 4: Like I've referenced before that many of these kids come

1033
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 4: out as marching Marxist. The average twelfth grader in Chicago

1034
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 4: reads about the eighth grade level. It's in doctrination, not education,

1035
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 4: and it's getting worse, it's not getting better. Jonaan you

1036
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 4: and I. I is doctor eric Osanzi. She's a public

1037
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 4: relations director with defunding, defending education, et cetera, and defunding

1038
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 4: education as it is today. And Erico, welcome, I think

1039
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 4: for the first time to the Bill Cunningham Show. Before

1040
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 4: we get into your article at OutKick, which I think

1041
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 4: was fabulous, can you kind of tell us what's happening

1042
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 4: with doctor Ian Roberts, the superintendent des Moines, which is

1043
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 4: illustrative of a larger problem.

1044
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,439
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, this is one of those stories that

1045
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 11: you actually feel like it's like made for a move

1046
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 11: to be made into a movie. Every time I checked

1047
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 11: the news, another shoe has dropped related to this guy.

1048
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 11: But essentially, you know, the Des Moines Public Schools that has,

1049
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 11: you know, thirty five thousand students hired this man, doctor

1050
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 11: Ian Roberts, to become their superintendent.

1051
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 5: His salary plus benefits.

1052
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 11: All in per year with three hundred and five thousand dollars.

1053
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 11: And it turns out that he appears to just be

1054
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 11: kind of like a con man. So he was arrested

1055
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 11: the end of last week by ice or detained I

1056
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 11: think the word right, detained by ice because there was

1057
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 11: an active deportation order out for him which was issued

1058
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 11: under the Bibe administration in May of twenty twenty four.

1059
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 7: When he was.

1060
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Speaker 11: Pursued by the Ice agents, he abandoned his car and

1061
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 11: took off in like some sort of like woods or

1062
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 11: like they think they said it was like a brushy area,

1063
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 11: left a loaded gun in his car three thousand dollars

1064
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 11: in cash. So that's already like a pretty big story.

1065
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,479
Speaker 11: But it turns out that he also had lied about

1066
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 11: his credentials, had lied about getting a doctorate from Morgan State,

1067
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Speaker 11: which he never did, so he was going by doctor

1068
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Speaker 11: back when he was working in the DC Public School

1069
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Speaker 11: in twenty twelve, but he didn't actually get his or

1070
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Speaker 11: his doctorate until twenty twenty one. And I think it

1071
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 11: was kind of from one of those like online diploma

1072
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Speaker 11: mill type places. He misrepresented being a citizen on his

1073
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 11: I nine and he also left behind he worked at

1074
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 11: a school in Pennsylvania and left in his wake four

1075
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Speaker 11: hundred and five thousand dollars in legal settlement costs for

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Speaker 11: the district, all directly related to him. I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 11: I don't you never want to relish in a story,

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Speaker 11: but it really does like it just it's it's insane.

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Speaker 11: And then when you see what his ideology was, when

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Speaker 11: you see what the policies were in des Moines under him,

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Speaker 11: it just all makes sense.

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Speaker 4: He was a classic dei higher. He fit the formula

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Speaker 4: of the liberals of the Poinne Board of Education. And

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Speaker 4: I suppose one of the women, one of the ladies

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Speaker 4: that hired him, is now running for the Senate. And

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Speaker 4: I want to take the place of Jody Ernst next year,

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Speaker 4: and I'm reading this describe that explain that one.

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Speaker 11: It's even worse than that. So, first of all, I

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Speaker 11: hate to say this because this does make me sound sexist,

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Speaker 11: and that's fine. This is an all female school board,

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Speaker 11: and I do think that's relevant because of the way

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Speaker 11: that empathy is much more easily weaponized with women. Number Two,

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Speaker 11: the ch the board chair. This woman who is the

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Speaker 11: chair of the board was in the past Michelle Obama's

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Speaker 11: chief of staff, perfect and she's now running for a

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Speaker 11: US Senate. And the funniest thing is she made a

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Speaker 11: video a few days ago saying, I've been so busy

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Speaker 11: with my volunteer job as a school board chairs the

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Speaker 11: past week that i haven't had time to can work

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Speaker 11: on my campaign, So please donate money. So she's literally

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Speaker 11: she's fundraising off a massive failure, which I don't know

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Speaker 11: that just kind of that takes a lot of I

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Speaker 11: don't know what to think that people are going to

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Speaker 11: want to give you money because you are now like

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Speaker 11: a nationwide spectacle because of your Either two things, one

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Speaker 11: of two things happened.

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Speaker 9: Either this was.

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Speaker 11: Ideology that had taken over and had you know, blinded

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Speaker 11: them to reality, or this is completing competence.

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Speaker 4: Well, doctor Ian Roberts is not a doctor. I'm watching

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Speaker 4: one of the immigration lawyers representing the Trump administration who says,

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Speaker 4: thirty years ago he was involved in drug dealing. He

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Speaker 4: was picked up illegally. He's from the nation of Guyana

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Speaker 4: in South America. Every part of his life is fake.

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Speaker 4: And now the Moine Board of Education is saying, well,

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Speaker 4: we hired this other company to do the proper investigation.

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Speaker 4: All it takes is a computer and Google to find

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Speaker 4: out this guy does not have a life at all

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Speaker 4: other than as a trickster and a hoaster. And when

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Speaker 4: the gig was up, he ran in a car, parked

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Speaker 4: the car illegally in a field, ran hide behind some

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Speaker 4: bushes and trees with a gun illegally, a knife illegally,

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Speaker 4: and with three thousand dollars in cash. And this is

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Speaker 4: the person the Liberal Democrats in Des Moines, Iowa wanted

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Speaker 4: to lead thirty thousand kids in the public school system.

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Speaker 4: I can imagine the results of the testing in that

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Speaker 4: school district with this guy in charge. And one of

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Speaker 4: the scoreboard members wiped away tears as she spoke in

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Speaker 4: Spanish during the Tuesday night acceptance of his resignation and

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Speaker 4: the students, how about this one, Erica Sonzi, how about

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Speaker 4: this one. There were about fifteen or twenty students who

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Speaker 4: walked out Wednesday or Wednesday morning in protest. They were

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Speaker 4: unhappy they lost their good looking superintendent who fed all

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Speaker 4: the DEI principles. How about the students themselves saying we

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Speaker 4: want him back.

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Speaker 11: Well, again, this is another thing with that weaponization of empathy,

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Speaker 11: right where you convince these kids that in order to

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Speaker 11: be a good person, they have to stand up for

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Speaker 11: this guy. Now, I've worked in enough schools to know

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Speaker 11: most students don't know who the superintendent is. So if

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Speaker 11: there was an overwhelming awareness of this guy by students,

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Speaker 11: that's also kind of strange. So the fact that they

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Speaker 11: would be And again you're going to see these the

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Speaker 11: parents who are protesting again why because it's about these

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Speaker 11: identity boxes. For them, he doesn't matter what he did wrong.

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Speaker 11: We've seen this so many times over the past few years,

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Speaker 11: that people will make excuses and lower the bar if

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Speaker 11: people check off certain identity boxes. And that's clearly what

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Speaker 11: happened here, because it's all indefensible no matter who he is.

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Speaker 11: But again, but for some of these people for whom

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Speaker 11: this ideology has sort of like broken their brains. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: they they're still kind of clinging to the idea that

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Speaker 11: he was the right guy for the job.

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Speaker 4: Liberal females were encaptured with the way he appeared, had

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Speaker 4: had the right kind of hair, representation, always looked great,

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Speaker 4: represented very well. It was all a fake and a fraud.

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Speaker 4: Before we talk about your column, which I think is

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Speaker 4: fabulous at at OutKick, I want to talk briefly about Chicago,

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Speaker 4: and I'm reading a headline Chicago Teachers Union Morn's death.

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Speaker 4: A convicted seventies cop killer and revolutionary and this got

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Speaker 4: small strift in the mainstream media. But back in the

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Speaker 4: nineteen seventies, there was a woman who took the name

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Speaker 4: of Asada Shakur, literally convicted of killing a police officer.

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Speaker 4: His name was State Trooper New Jersey Warner Forster. And

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Speaker 4: she was convicted in nineteen seventy seven. No question, she

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Speaker 4: did it. She was convicted, And somehow I must have

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Speaker 4: missed this one. Her band of renegades and revolutionlutionaries broke

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Speaker 4: her out of a female state prison in New Jersey

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Speaker 4: and she made her way to Cuba. And so for

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Speaker 4: the last time. Almost fifty years she's been living in

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Speaker 4: Cuba and every president has tried to get her back

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Speaker 4: because she convicted, no questions, she killed a cop as

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Speaker 4: a revolutionary act. Well, she died about a week ago,

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Speaker 4: and the Chicago Teachers' Union mourns the death of convicted

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Speaker 4: seventies cop killer and revolutionary Assada Shakor. These are the

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Speaker 4: teachers in Chicago. This is a cop killer in Cuba,

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Speaker 4: they said, rest in power, rest in peace. Today we

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Speaker 4: honor the life and legacy of a revolutionary fighter, a

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Speaker 4: fierce writer, a revered elder, a black liberation and a

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Speaker 4: leader of freedom whose spirit continues to live in our struggle.

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Speaker 4: Assawda refused to be silenced. She taught us so much.

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Speaker 4: So I'm reading this so last week Chicago teachers honored

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Speaker 4: a cop killer as a revolutionary. Why isn't that a

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Speaker 4: bigger deal?

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Speaker 11: So I saw a lot about this, probably because I

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Speaker 11: was on X a lot, and I would say too. Again,

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Speaker 11: it is important for listeners to know that the union

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Speaker 11: leadership is very radical, yes, and the rank and file

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Speaker 11: are much less so, though the rank and file often

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Speaker 11: are unaware of what their leadership is doing and saying

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Speaker 11: so but yeah, no, Well, we get to remember this

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Speaker 11: is the same teachers union who also said that anyone

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Speaker 11: who wanted schools to reopen during the pandemic was a

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Speaker 11: racist and a misogynist, which actually an a white supremacist,

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Speaker 11: I believe. So this this is one of the craziest, most.

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Speaker 5: Unhinged teachers unions in the country.

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Speaker 11: I am not surprised that they came out and said that,

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Speaker 11: because that is who they are, and they it literally

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Speaker 11: makes me think of like it like if we were

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Speaker 11: going to like ads a be like wanting to honor

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Speaker 11: Timothy McVay or something right where you you know, she

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Speaker 11: in addition to killing being a cop killer, I believe

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Speaker 11: she was also a bank robber.

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 11: And the mayor of Chicago was asked about this now,

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Speaker 11: and he's also a total whack job who used to

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Speaker 11: run this name this he used to run this union.

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Speaker 11: To give you a sense, I mean, he's just like

1209
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Speaker 11: he's like a radical revolutionary type. And uh, he didn't

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Speaker 11: condemn what the union said. He basically said.

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Speaker 7: That she.

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Speaker 11: What's the word I'm looking for here? She proclaimed her

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Speaker 11: innocence throughout, and he said that, you know, when she

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Speaker 11: was convicted, you couldn't get a fair trial in this

1215
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 11: country if you were a person of color, he said,

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Speaker 11: so basically, he defended the the Union by saying she's

1217
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Speaker 11: probably innocent because you couldn't get a fair trial back then.

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Speaker 4: She's a victim, and so her revolutionary band broke her out.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 4: The reason I issue on today is is your column

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Speaker 4: and OutKick headline is teachers who delight in murder and

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Speaker 4: assassinations are un fit for the job. You go on

1223
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 4: to write, millions of kids in this country love Charlie

1224
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 4: Kirk saw I'm executed on livestream. You go on to

1225
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 4: say that there's a question of fitness for the job,

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01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 4: and you have some of the quotes of teachers and others.

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Speaker 4: Quote another Nazi dead resting urine, Charlie Kirk. You also

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Speaker 4: the teachers have said, I've watched a video over and

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Speaker 4: over like fifty times, love every fraction of a second

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01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 4: of it. It gets better with every watch. That's from

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Speaker 4: a teacher quote. Yes I'm celebrating. Yes I hope he

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01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 4: rots another one far right, buttholes have a target on

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01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 4: their backs. One down, millions to go. So these are

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Speaker 4: teachers in the classroom celebrating in cold blood the murder

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Speaker 4: of Charlie Kirk. Explain that one to me.

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Speaker 11: So these are all quotations that I pulled from social

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Speaker 11: media platforms. So these were k through twelve teachers who

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01:10:54,640 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 11: took to public platforms to celebrate this asassity. They were

1239
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 11: not said in the classroom, they but they were put

1240
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 11: out on a public platform in the immediate aftermath of

1241
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,799
Speaker 11: that murder. And again, like, as I'm wearing my former

1242
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Speaker 11: teacher hat and my parent hat, this is a question

1243
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 11: of fitness. You're not fit for the role of to

1244
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 11: be educating other people's children in a compulsory education system

1245
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 11: if this is the way that you behave publicly after

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01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 11: political assassination. And to me, it doesn't matter who the

1247
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 11: it doesn't matter who is who gets killed. This behavior

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Speaker 11: of this behavior of delighting and murder is something that

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Speaker 11: maybe if my cashier at Wendy's, or my Amazon driver

1250
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Speaker 11: or my mechanic, you know, if if they do that

1251
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Speaker 11: and I know about it, I can take my business elsewhere.

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Speaker 11: But that to me is totally different than the adults

1253
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 11: who have custodial care of other people's children. And again

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Speaker 11: I have to say, like, this is a compulsory education system,

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Speaker 11: and we don't let parents choose they have to send

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01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 11: their kids to a school that they're residentially assigned to

1257
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 11: unless they have the means to make other arrangements. So

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Speaker 11: to say that kids are being forced back into classrooms

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01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 11: with adults who celebrated the murder of somebody that many

1260
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Speaker 11: of these kids didn't just look up to and admire,

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Speaker 11: but he was like a daily part of their sort

1262
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 11: of social media diet, and they saw him snuffed out

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Speaker 11: in an instant. And then they have to listen to

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Speaker 11: the teacher, you know, or they at least have to

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Speaker 11: know that their teacher thinks that's great.

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Speaker 4: And doctor Sanzi, I'm glad you had that delineator. I'm sorry, I.

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Speaker 11: Think I think you're mixing me up with doctor Ian Roberts.

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Speaker 4: That's it, Eric of defending Education and the columns at OutKick,

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Speaker 4: I want to say this, I'm against cancel culture. That

1270
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 4: we all have rights of freedom of expression, freedom of speech.

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01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 4: I draw the line if I'm ordering a meal at

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Speaker 4: a restaurant, if someone a postal worker, someone like that,

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01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 4: have doing ministerial functions of one type or another. You know,

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01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying, okay, I can, but i don't want somebody

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Speaker 4: in charge of my health, like the anesthesiologist from Miami,

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Speaker 4: Florida who went on another a woman by the way,

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Speaker 4: who talked about how happy she was that Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 4: is murdered. I don't want a college professor. I don't

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Speaker 4: want someone who's at teaching my kids in school with

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Speaker 4: these with this value system, some of the other cuts

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Speaker 4: that you have about teachers. Quote, I can't believe people

1282
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Speaker 4: are actually mourning this. I can't use the word quote.

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01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 4: Hearing that Charlie Kirk got shot and died really brightened

1284
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 4: up my day. Another one said, I'm glad he's dead.

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01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 4: Another one out of social media said, what a piece

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Speaker 4: of garbage. This is what happens. He met his maker.

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Speaker 4: But let's be very clear that maker is not in

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Speaker 4: have Charlie Kirk is not in heaven. He's in hell

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Speaker 4: right now. That's from teachers on social media. So explain

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Speaker 4: again to the American people why this is not cancel culture.

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Speaker 11: Well, this is not cancel culture because this is a

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Speaker 11: question of fitness for the job. And we as parents

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Speaker 11: delegate the authority to schools to serve in local parents

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Speaker 11: during the school day. That means that these are people

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Speaker 11: that are tasked with educating other people's children. To me,

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Speaker 11: behaving that way is a sign that your moral compass

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Speaker 11: is completely broken. And if that broken moral compass is

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Speaker 11: gonna you can't force me to make my kids spend

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Speaker 11: their time with somebody like that.

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Speaker 7: Yes, because there's two reasons.

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Speaker 11: One delighting and murder. And by the way, a political

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Speaker 11: assassination of somebody in the midst of a debate on

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Speaker 11: a college campus that clearly is just qualifying, but so

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Speaker 11: is the lack of judgment. It takes two. Again. They

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Speaker 11: didn't whisper this to their spouse, They didn't like say

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Speaker 11: this when they were out to dinner with their friends,

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Speaker 11: right they put it on a public platform for the

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Speaker 11: world to see. So that tells me that they just

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Speaker 11: they lack any judgment or all judgment required to be

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Speaker 11: Because right now, like there are kind of trapped have

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Speaker 11: I mean, when you look at middle school and high

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Speaker 11: school kids, especially boys, Charlie Kirk was, they probably saw

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Speaker 11: him on their phones every single day. Many of them

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Speaker 11: admired him, looked up to him, thought he was relatable,

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Speaker 11: thought he was able to say things if they wish

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Speaker 11: they could say, but they're afraid to say. Liked his politics,

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Speaker 11: so they liked him. Other people, it wasn't politics. He

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Speaker 11: looked after him for that reason. For some kids, it

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Speaker 11: was just finally a regular guy that just like speaks

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Speaker 11: the truth, whatever it was. They saw his life extinguished

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Speaker 11: right before their eyes. When we talk about kids not

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Speaker 11: having boys don't have role models. Boys don't have role models.

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Speaker 11: That's why we literally watched one of them be murdered

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Speaker 11: in front of their eyes, and then their teacher goes

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Speaker 11: out and says that that's a good thing. I mean,

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Speaker 11: couldn't the kid wonder? Couldn't the kid wonder? Gee? I

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Speaker 11: wonder if my teacher would be excited if I was killed.

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Speaker 4: We have to run. But Erica Sanzi defending education. The

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Speaker 4: columns on OutKick Bill Cunningham, The Grand American live with

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Speaker 4: you every Sunday night. Seeing once again the Bengals loss

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Speaker 4: this afternoon, and as we said here on this Sunday night,

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Speaker 4: there's no actual peace happening. And God, so there middly

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Speaker 4: set more is going to happen tomorrow, Monday and Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: So please pray for those special people in Israel going

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Speaker 4: through what they have to go through. Janan, you and

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Speaker 4: I now or next shall be Jeff krue Air Jeff

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Speaker 4: crue Air of New Orleans about he wrote a great

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Speaker 4: column at townhall dot com about James Comy why he

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Speaker 4: should be dieting so much more makes a lot of

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Speaker 4: sense to me. Let's continue with more. Bill cunning and

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Speaker 4: the Great American with you and all great Americans every Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Episodes the one and only Bill Cunningham.

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Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, Jeff Crueir is

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Speaker 4: a living legend in the great state of Louisiana. He's

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Speaker 4: certainly a podcaster. He's written books, he's on radio. He

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Speaker 4: thinks a lot. He has a lot of columns at

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Speaker 4: town Hall dot com. I have one up the FBI

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Speaker 4: faces along Road to Redemption and Jeff crue Air, Welcome

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Speaker 4: again to the Bill Cunningham Show. Before we talk about

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Speaker 4: James Combe and all that kind of stuff, give me

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Speaker 4: your sense of where we are. We're about four or

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Speaker 4: five days in in the government shutdown. All it would

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Speaker 4: take is for the Democrats, five or six more Democrats

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Speaker 4: in the Senates to say, you know what, enough is enough.

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Speaker 4: We'll have a clean cr and we're going to vote

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Speaker 4: for the same continuation of federal spending as we voted

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Speaker 4: for in March. And this is the Biden budget that

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Speaker 4: concluded on October I'm sorry, on September thirtieth, which is

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Speaker 4: the fiscal the US. So we're about a weekend of

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Speaker 4: this thing right now, and they're Republicans saying, well, let's

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Speaker 4: just keep the Biden budget going, and the Democrats are

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Speaker 4: going nuts. Give me your perspective if any.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I think the Democrats own this bill.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I think the Democrats are going to cave eventually.

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Speaker 12: Already three of them voted with the Republicans. And by

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Speaker 12: the way, Fetterman is looking like the most reasonable Democrat

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Speaker 12: in Congress. If only you had more Democrats like Setterment.

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Speaker 12: But I do think they're going to they're going to

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Speaker 12: cave eventually. I think they're going to get the heat.

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Speaker 12: I think Republicans should just stand firm. Democrats are trying

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Speaker 12: to get in this what they couldn't get into one

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Speaker 12: big beautiful bill, which is basically healthcare for illegals. So

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Speaker 12: this is all on them. As you said, Schumer went

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Speaker 12: ahead with the clean cr back in March. In the interim.

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Speaker 12: You got a lot of heat for doing that. AOC

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Speaker 12: is breathing down his neck, and you know, it's politics,

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Speaker 12: and he's worried about his position, and the left we

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Speaker 12: hang is now with certain control, and you know this

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Speaker 12: is what we end up with.

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Speaker 4: I kind of have to think, Jeff Career, how does

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Speaker 4: this end? I assume it's going to be the next

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Speaker 4: payday to miss they have the federal workers have not

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Speaker 4: missed the payday yet. The last one was September thirtieth.

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Speaker 4: The next one's the fifteenth, and so the paychecks are

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Speaker 4: supposed to come. And in the past, well when these

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Speaker 4: eighteen other shutdowns took place, they ever paid anyway. And

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Speaker 4: so we until the fifteenth, there's nothing, nothing much to do.

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Speaker 4: So this could go on for a while, and this

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Speaker 4: will give the Trumpster an opportunity to right size the

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Speaker 4: federal government, the bureaucracy, be careful for what you wish.

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Speaker 12: Well, that's what he talked about doing it. It'll be

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Speaker 12: an opportunity for him to make some serious cuts in government.

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Speaker 12: I mean, we know the government's too big. I mean, Bill,

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Speaker 12: we've got a thirty seven plus trillion dollar debt that

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Speaker 12: we have to take care of. And the president has

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Speaker 12: a unique opportunity here. It should take advantage of it.

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Speaker 12: And the Democrats are in disarret. They are totally all

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Speaker 12: over the board on the far far left. You don't

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Speaker 12: have any voices of reason, really very few, and the

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Speaker 12: president is just driving them crazy. They're just filled with anger.

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Speaker 12: And you know they're talking about the president being you know,

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Speaker 12: mentally incompetence. I mean, of course they said nothing when

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Speaker 12: Biden was president for four years. They just said he

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Speaker 12: was sharp as attack. And now they're worried about the

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Speaker 12: mental competence of the president. It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: A few days ago, ahead on Senator Ran Paul the

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Speaker 4: only Republican in the Senate that voted against us. He

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Speaker 4: voted with Chuck Schumer, and he said, look, the Republicans

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Speaker 4: want to spend and borrow over this fiscal year, the

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Speaker 4: one coming up, this one about two trillion dollars want

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Speaker 4: to borrow that, and that Democrats want to borrow three trillion,

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Speaker 4: and either it's two or three trillion. At some point

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Speaker 4: we're gonna have one hell of a problem in this

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Speaker 4: country because if we're not the reserve currency, or if

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Speaker 4: the other nations of the world and certain funds do

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Speaker 4: not want to buy our debt, we're gonna need whalebarrels

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Speaker 4: going to the grocery store to get a loaf of bread.

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Speaker 4: And so doesn't Rand Paul have a point about borrowing

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Speaker 4: under Trump's plan and additional two trillion dollars every year

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Speaker 4: for the next several years. Doesn't he have a point?

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Speaker 7: He?

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Speaker 12: I mean, he has a great point. I mean I

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Speaker 12: understand where he's coming from. I mean, I understand his

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Speaker 12: fiscal common sense. I mean he's one of the few

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Speaker 12: that really holds the line on spending. And he was

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Speaker 12: one of the few voices that called athels during COVID.

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Speaker 12: So I mean he's got a record as a truth teller.

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Speaker 12: Problem is, of course, that you know, they don't have

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Speaker 12: enough like him. I mean, he's out there on an

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Speaker 12: Island and it's just him.

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Speaker 8: So I mean, we need.

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Speaker 12: More that are that are fiscally responsible and give him

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Speaker 12: some you know, colleagues to work with. Right now, I mean,

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Speaker 12: it's just Ran Paul on the Senate side. There's maybe

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Speaker 12: one or two on the House side, but he's right.

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Speaker 12: I mean, we've got to seriously reform spending. And that

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Speaker 12: was one of the problems with the One Big Beautiful

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Speaker 12: Bill is because of the added debt that it created.

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Speaker 12: So that was a legitimate criticism, but you know, the

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Speaker 12: Republicans said that they had to pass it otherwise we'd

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Speaker 12: have these massive tax increases which we can't allow. So

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Speaker 12: you know, we were stuck well, and I probably would

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Speaker 12: have voted for it too, because I wouldn't want to

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Speaker 12: see any taxes go up either.

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Speaker 4: You know, my friend Congressman Tom Massey was the one

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Speaker 4: in the House that said, no, we can't afford this.

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Speaker 4: Maybe there's something in the water in the state of Kentucky,

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Speaker 4: but nonetheless, part of it, part of this requirement of

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Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer is that the five hundred million, the half

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Speaker 4: of billion dollars be issued to NPR within three days

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Speaker 4: of opening the government. And so I thought we had

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Speaker 4: that debate concluded. The NPR has its viewpoint. And the

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Speaker 4: reason Democrats fight like warrior poets to keep NPR is

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Speaker 4: because they're a democratic outlet. It's not well publicized. But

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Speaker 4: the Democrats want five one hundred million dollars to refund

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Speaker 4: NPR and PBS, and that's not been well publicized.

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Speaker 12: And we've got to stand firm against that because that's

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Speaker 12: already been decided. They want to revisit all these things, Bill,

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Speaker 12: which is what you're just talking about. By the way,

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Speaker 12: do you know that none of these PBS and PR

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Speaker 12: stations have gone out of business. I mean, all of

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Speaker 12: them have been able to survive by asking their viewers

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Speaker 12: and listeners to donate. So they just had to cut

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Speaker 12: back some, but they're still on the air. None of

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Speaker 12: them have completely closed their doors. So they didn't need

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Speaker 12: all of this federal large s. They didn't need it.

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Speaker 12: So we've got to stand firm on that. We cannot

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Speaker 12: be funding any entities that just present one side of views.

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Speaker 12: This is supposedly for the whole country, and they're all

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Speaker 12: their board, all their programming, all their executives are left wing,

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Speaker 12: and we shouldn't be in the business of left wing propaganda. Jeff,

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Speaker 12: for no question, back down on that bill. We can't

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Speaker 12: back down.

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Speaker 4: You know, maybe they could fund you and me. Maybe

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Speaker 4: they could fund certain parts of conservative maybe they conserve.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they could fund conservative talk radio. That would never happen.

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Speaker 4: And the reason they fight so hard for NPR and PBS,

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Speaker 4: and the reason they fight so hard for late night

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Speaker 4: comics the jimmies are unfunny is because they represent democratic viewpoints.

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Speaker 4: And the reason they fight so hard for New York

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Speaker 4: Times Washington Post is because they're the outlets of the

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Speaker 4: radical left. We have to get into this column here

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Speaker 4: road on September twenty ninth, about the FBI faces along

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Speaker 4: road to redemption. Let's go over the sins in the

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Speaker 4: crimes of James Comy, going back at least to twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 4: Explain that to the American people.

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Speaker 12: James Comy is a liar. He lied about the Steele dossier,

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Speaker 12: He lied about Hillary Clinton's emails. He should have prosecuted her,

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Speaker 12: but he didn't. He went after General Flynn in a

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Speaker 12: very handed way. He basically is a tool of the

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Speaker 12: left that was being used to try to bring down

1501
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 12: Donald Trump. He's lied. Now that they have charged him

1502
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 12: with perjury. He lied about what he did by you know,

1503
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 12: slipping information to his friend who got it published. And

1504
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 12: what he was trying to do as he was walking

1505
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 12: out the door was to make sure that there would

1506
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 12: be a Muller investigation going after the president, and he

1507
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 12: successfully got this special counsel created, and you know he

1508
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 12: lied about it. So he's on record line as the

1509
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 12: President Trump posted, it should be easy to be able to,

1510
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 12: you know, get a conviction on this guy. The problem

1511
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 12: is that the judge is a Biden appointed judge. So

1512
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 12: that's always seems to be something that the Democrats benefit from.

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01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 12: The venue is a little bit different. It's in you know, eastern.

1514
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 7: Virginia.

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01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 12: It's not in DC, thank goodness. So maybe we have

1516
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,600
Speaker 12: a little bit better chance for justice. But the Democrats

1517
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,679
Speaker 12: have such built in advantages from the judges, to the juries,

1518
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 12: to where the venues are. But this man is a disgrace.

1519
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you're saying your column as FBI Director James

1520
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 4: Comey was a disaster. He should have charged Hillary Clinton,

1521
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 4: exonerated Donald Trump, and completely dismissed the bogus THEO dossier.

1522
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 4: He should never have authorized warrant applications based on lies

1523
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 4: or sanctioned that should be leaked to the New York Times,

1524
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 4: which was a crime. He summarily lied to Congress. In fact,

1525
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 4: even CNN and those who represent the far left wing

1526
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 4: have said, I've watched it. Well, James Comy lied. Of course,

1527
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 4: he didn't tell the truth to Congress. But that's no

1528
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 4: big deal because a lot of people lie to Congress.

1529
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 4: So you have former US attorneys saying, well, of course

1530
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 4: he lied to Congress. But let's face it, everyone does,

1531
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 4: so it's okay. But just on the issue of charging

1532
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton, for those who forgot the summer of twenty sixteen,

1533
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 4: what did he say Hillary Clinton had done that should

1534
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 4: have resulted in her indictment for maybe thirty three thousand counts?

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01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean he went through the whole list of

1536
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 12: things that she had done. She lied, She lied over

1537
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 12: and over and over again about her thirty three thousand emails.

1538
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 12: But he made the bogus claim that no prosecutor would

1539
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 12: indict her, and that, of course is another lie right there,

1540
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 12: because I think any reasonable prosecutor would have He said

1541
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 12: that they wouldn't, so I mean he was covering for her.

1542
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 12: Even though Hillary is upset with James Comy because he

1543
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 12: brought up the Anthony Wiener laptop toward the end of

1544
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,679
Speaker 12: the campaign, and of course they went through the Anthony

1545
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 12: When Your Laptop in record time and was able to

1546
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 12: say that they went through it all and there was

1547
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:55,839
Speaker 12: nothing there. But Hillary still has bitter towards James Comy,

1548
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 12: but nothing compared to Donald Trump is what he did

1549
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 12: with the pre So yeah, I think the president's happy

1550
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 12: about this indictment. I think the American people should be.

1551
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 12: But he's not the only FBI director who's lied. His

1552
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 12: successor lied as well.

1553
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 4: Christopher Ray. You say, no longer the f BAD director

1554
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 4: are facing the same legal problems as James coming. Didn't

1555
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 4: Christopher Ray lie about the two hundred and seventy five

1556
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 4: FBI agents and informants working the Capitol on January the sixth.

1557
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, he said he didn't believe that they were any

1558
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 12: He didn't believe that they were any and they were

1559
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 12: two hundred and seventy four. Now Cash Brittel later said

1560
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 12: that they were there, you know, after it had started

1561
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 12: for crowd control. Either way, Christopher Ray knew very well

1562
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 12: what was going on. I mean, we've been lied to

1563
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 12: about Jay six from the beginning Bill, you know about

1564
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 12: the pipe bombers, the whole way that these protesters were

1565
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 12: allowed to, you know, go in there. They've just opened

1566
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 12: up the the barricades and allow them to go in

1567
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 12: and then charge them for that. And then there were

1568
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 12: instigators from Antifa and the police and the FBI, and

1569
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 12: these people were set up, a lot of them, and

1570
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 12: of course they were treated so horribly. And look at

1571
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 12: how that George Floyd protesters were treated with kid gloves.

1572
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 4: Well, the one hundred thousand protesters on January the sixth,

1573
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 4: it was well known weeks in advanced planes, trains, buses,

1574
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 4: and cars. The FBI knew what was coming. In fact,

1575
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 4: they embedded these two hundred and seventy four or others

1576
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 4: into the various crowds, which is a good tactic. They

1577
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 4: used it with the Ku Klux Klan for a long time,

1578
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 4: but they would never use it with Antifa. But nonetheless,

1579
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 4: that's a different story. But they knew, or should have known,

1580
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 4: exactly what was planned because their agents were involved with

1581
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 4: the groups coming to Washington to protest, and so of

1582
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 4: course they knew, and Christopher Ray acted as if we

1583
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 4: had no clue what was going on when they knew

1584
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 4: what was going to happen.

1585
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 12: Yeah, and Christopher Rays, the guy who said that the

1586
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 12: biggest threat that we face is you know, white supremacists,

1587
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 12: that they're the biggest threat to America. I mean, what

1588
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 12: a joke, what a liar. And of course his handling

1589
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 12: of the Jay six thing has been atrocious from the

1590
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 12: very beginning. I'm hoping the cash Betel is going to

1591
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 12: give us some answers about the pipe bomber, about you know,

1592
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 12: the extent of these agents. Some good things are going on.

1593
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 12: We got rid of some of the folks who were

1594
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 12: kneeling when the whole George Floyd mess was going on

1595
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 12: that we're trying to show there Christs for social justice.

1596
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 12: Those folks have been fired. So that's a good step

1597
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 12: in the right direction.

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Speaker 4: He's going to be a rain comb. He's going to

1599
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 4: be a rain on October the ninth. Now, lastly, you

1600
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 4: have a great part of your column that deals with

1601
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk, and you haven't hear about Charlie Kirk and

1602
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 4: the text messaging tether and fro that we need information

1603
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 4: now about Charlie Kirk and talk about what you would

1604
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 4: like to see happened with the a Sassin of Charlie

1605
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 4: Kirk mounting questions I need to answer.

1606
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think there are a lot of questions. Bill.

1607
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 12: I receive videos every day from people that are poking

1608
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 12: holes in the official narrative. I mean, we could spend

1609
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 12: hours going through all the different theories that people have

1610
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 12: sent me. There does seem to be a lot of

1611
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 12: distrust about the official narrative. And you know why, because

1612
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 12: you know, we've been lied to over the years. I mean,

1613
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 12: we have not been told the truth about so many things,

1614
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 12: from weapons of mass destruction to COVID to in my opinion,

1615
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 12: the election and you know JA six, on and on

1616
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 12: and on. So people are obviously distrustful. We're hoping Cash

1617
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 12: Betel and Dan Bongina, we're bringing integrity back to the FBI,

1618
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 12: but we know that there's so many deep state folks

1619
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 12: embedded in there. So there are questions that I'm hearing about.

1620
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 12: You know, the videos that have been released about the shooter,

1621
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 12: about the text messages. A lot of people just don't

1622
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 12: buy the text messages, don't think that that's how twenty

1623
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 12: two year olds communicate, and their holes in the timeline

1624
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 12: build the timeline doesn't really add up when you look

1625
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 12: at the timeline. So it just is, you know, we

1626
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 12: just need more information. We need to have more disclosure

1627
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 12: about what happened. This is a man who is a

1628
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 12: hero to millions of Americans, and he was known to

1629
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 12: millions of Americans and now he's gone, and there needs

1630
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 12: to be full disclosure about you know, where we stand

1631
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 12: as far as the investigators, well.

1632
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:31,679
Speaker 4: To me, the biggest hole to me are the drones.

1633
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 4: According to one report, I saw the six to ten

1634
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 4: members of Charlie Kirk's security team when they went to

1635
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 4: the site. They looked up and saw three or four

1636
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 4: buildings about two hundred yards away, and they said, we

1637
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 4: have to get those buildings covered. They were thinking about

1638
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 4: the assassination attempt on Donald Trump and Butler County, Pennsylvania,

1639
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 4: and so they were said, we have drone technology with us,

1640
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 4: and we can put drones over the top of those

1641
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,639
Speaker 4: buildings where a sniper might be, and we can monitor

1642
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 4: who's on the roof and the roof, and the security

1643
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 4: team for Charlie Kirk was told by campus police, we'll

1644
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:08,639
Speaker 4: have that covered, don't worry about it, and look what happened.

1645
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 12: Well, and I've been told that there was like six

1646
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 12: policemen from the university that were at the event, I

1647
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 12: mean six and we had I mean thousands of people

1648
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 12: that were there. So there was a massive error in

1649
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 12: the security, just like there was in Butler, Pennsylvania. And

1650
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 12: I mean, I think a lot of us still have

1651
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 12: questions about the Secret Service, and some recent incidents have

1652
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 12: occurred that have raised more questions about the Secret Service.

1653
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:42,839
Speaker 12: So I think again people are distrustful of the official

1654
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 12: narratives that they're hearing, and you know, we need to

1655
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 12: get to the bottom of what happened here. So were

1656
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 12: we being told that there was just another quote unquote

1657
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 12: loan wold Wolf who was able to get all done

1658
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 12: by himself, right, get up there, disassemble the rifle, get

1659
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 12: down somehow, get it in the woods, in the woods,

1660
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 12: and then to.

1661
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 4: Be discovered, to be discovered there and take it with

1662
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:09,879
Speaker 4: him to be discovered. And I'm thinking, where are the drones?

1663
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 4: What assassin leaves the weapon behind this, assembles it, leaves

1664
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:16,559
Speaker 4: it in the woods, go back. I don't get it.

1665
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 4: Jeff Currer, let's keep the lines open of communication, uh,

1666
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:23,639
Speaker 4: New Orleans, and your columns are always at town Hall

1667
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 4: And Jeff Creweir dot net and Jeff continue to question.

1668
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 4: Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and Jeff,

1669
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:31,879
Speaker 4: you're a great American.

1670
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 7: Thank you always a pleasure.

1671
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 12: Thank you, Bill.

1672
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:38,680
Speaker 4: Let's continue with more drones. We got that covered and

1673
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 4: it wasn't and Charlie Kirk is dead. Bill Cunningham with

1674
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 4: you every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham. And I brought

1675
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:58,760
Speaker 4: this up at the end of the interview with Jeff Kruer.

1676
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 4: And by the way, coming up next is Jeff Gilson

1677
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 4: about certain criminal activities imposed upon the Trump administration by others.

1678
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:10,640
Speaker 4: But the time I spent with Jeff Careary briefly is

1679
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 4: that there was drone technology that was normally used at

1680
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:17,720
Speaker 4: a Charlie Kirk rally, especially when buildings are like a

1681
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 4: sniper's nest, especially after Butler County, PA. And according to

1682
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 4: one media account news account, the administrative team and the

1683
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 4: security team for Charlie Kirk went to the site a

1684
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 4: few days at a time said those buildings have got

1685
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 4: to be covered. We have drones. We can send up

1686
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,600
Speaker 4: the drones and then we can monitor the drones in

1687
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:39,719
Speaker 4: real time on our laptop. And the police told Charlie

1688
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 4: Kirk's team don't worry about that. We'll get that covered,

1689
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:46,720
Speaker 4: and somebody did not get it covered. I think I

1690
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 4: have trust in faith and now the FBI and especially

1691
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 4: Dan Bond JNI to do what's right. But someone's got

1692
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 4: to answer the question. It's all these loose ends about

1693
01:36:56,200 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 4: the assassin and how it happened, who helped, who cooperate, etc.

1694
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:03,719
Speaker 4: But why those building tops could easily have been covered

1695
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 4: and they were not. To me as a major fook.

1696
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 4: Let's continue with more. Jeff Gilson is next. Bill Cunningham

1697
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:30,959
Speaker 4: with you every Sunday night. Let's continue now, Bill Cunningham,

1698
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:33,680
Speaker 4: the great American. The media, the left wing media, is

1699
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 4: going crazy over the indictment of James Comy, and having

1700
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:39,760
Speaker 4: read the indictment, there were three counts proposed by the

1701
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 4: Prosecutor's office. On the third count there wasn't a true

1702
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 4: bill returned to Northern Virginia. But on the other two

1703
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 4: counts there were true bill's returned against James Comy, the

1704
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 4: first FBI director ever to be indicted on anything. And

1705
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 4: the media has got on the side of James Comy,

1706
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 4: largely saying why this should not take place. So I

1707
01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 4: thought we'd get perspective on this from Jeff Gilson. He's

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Speaker 4: a retired attorney developmental consultant and he began his career

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01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 4: crafting speeches for Margaret Thatcher and leverages dual a US

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01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 4: and British citizenship to navigate all the elite political circles

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Speaker 4: between the US and the UK. And Jeff Gilson, Welcome

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Speaker 4: to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Jeff,

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Speaker 4: can you just give the overview to the American people?

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01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 4: What are the two counts, what are the facts supporting

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01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:24,799
Speaker 4: each and why is this such a politically hot football.

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01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:28,640
Speaker 6: Well, Bill, I'm not sure how much time to have.

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01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:32,599
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what I will do basically for your listeners.

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01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 6: They're probably much like me, even though I'm steepness kind

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01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 6: of thing. There's a lot of confusing stuff going on,

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01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 6: and we could spend some time talking about the detail.

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01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 6: I will ask your listeners to do something different. All right,

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01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 6: the two counts and it's a very short indictment. It's

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01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:53,879
Speaker 6: two pieces of bapies. One he lied to Congress, two

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01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 6: he instructed justice. That's all anybody needs to know at

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01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 6: this stage. Beyond I ask your listeners to do that

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01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 6: if they can remember about ten years rely Fanks on

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01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 6: your memory, because this, I think is what is very

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01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 6: crucial here. So let's be immediate. You're absolutely right getting

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01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 6: all up in arms about the indictment. First thing, Trump

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01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 6: didn't indict Comy. Bondy didn't indict tromy You.

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Speaker 5: Didn't indict him.

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Speaker 6: I didn't indict him. A grand jury indicted him. That's

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01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 6: the process. Let's trust the process. What's happening is too

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01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:30,640
Speaker 6: many people are undermining the process when it's ues their

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01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 6: political convenience. Convenience, A grand jury indicted tromy Comy. Next thing,

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01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 6: there will be a trial. Let's leave it to the

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01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 6: trial to examine the facts. But in the meantime, rather

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01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 6: than trying to understand all of the counter allegations flying around,

1739
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 6: trust your memory. What can is accused of doing is this.

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01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 6: He is accused of lying as saying that he never

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01:39:55,439 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 6: leaked any information in twenty sixteen about an investigation into

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01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 6: collusion between Trump and Russia, and that when he lied,

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01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 6: he instructed justice. All right, guys, cast your mind. By

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01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:14,240
Speaker 6: twenty sixteen, first election Trump got elected, do we remember

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01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 6: that there was talk about an investigation into Trump and

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01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 6: Russia and collusion. Yes, we all remember that was the

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01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 6: news in the summer twenty sixty, right, Bill, it came

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01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 6: from somewhere, either Comy leaked it, or he authorized someone

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01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 6: to leak it, or he was so upset he authorized

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01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 6: an FBI investigation into the league till the latter happened. No,

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Speaker 6: so you're left with the other two folks.

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Speaker 7: It's that simple.

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01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 6: It has to be proven in court, but we knew

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Speaker 6: about it. So that's that's the first thing. Now, look basically,

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01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 6: that's it. Rely on your memory. Don't get get get

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01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 6: sidetracked by this. For instance, one of the things floating

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01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:04,639
Speaker 6: around is that the process of the grand jury wasn't proper. Okay,

1758
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 6: we need to stop doing this. Both sides need to

1759
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 6: stop doing this. There's legal process and it shouldn't be undermined. Yes,

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01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 6: but Trump politicized it no more than Biden and Obama did.

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Speaker 6: In twenty twenty four, there was a poll, one of

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Speaker 6: many in the summer of twenty twenty four. We're sixty

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01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 6: percent of Americans, not sixty percent of MAGA, not sixty

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01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 6: percent of Republicans. Sixty percent of Americans said that the

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01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 6: four indictments and ninety one charges against Donald Trump was overkilled.

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Speaker 6: I mean it was political.

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Speaker 4: Now, no question, and Jeff Gilson on that we'll deal

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Speaker 4: with Trump here in a moment. I'm watching a few

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Speaker 4: days ago. Congressman used to be Congressman Adam Kinsinger of Illinois,

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01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 4: who was a Republican. He went to the Iraqi War.

1771
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 4: Now he's an advisor to CNN. And one of the

1772
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 4: classic throwaway comments he made is that we all know,

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01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:00,280
Speaker 4: of course James Comy lied to Congress. Then he's but

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01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 4: everyone does that, therefore it's I guess he meant to

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01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 4: imply it's okay. And then CNN played the cuts of

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Speaker 4: Senator Chuck Grassley asking specific questions to James Comy under

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Speaker 4: oath in which there was a disparity, according to seeing

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01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 4: a disparity between what Comy had testified to on one

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Speaker 4: hand and reality on the other. In other words, Adam

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01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 4: Kinzinger not a Trump supporter at all. Adam Kinzinger said,

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Speaker 4: of course he lied, but everyone lies to Congress, therefore

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01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 4: it's okay. And I'm thinking to myself, well, if ten

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Speaker 4: banks are robbed and you arrest the arm robbers for

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01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,559
Speaker 4: one of the ten, you let him go free because

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Speaker 4: the other nine were not arrested. The answer is no,

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01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 4: and so comy in my view. On one side, the

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Speaker 4: Democrats indicted Donald Trump repeatedly out of Atlanta, New York

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Speaker 4: City and federally in two different jurisdictions that carried about

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Speaker 4: seven hundred years in jail. And they did that according

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Speaker 4: to the American people, and I believe that, as a

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Speaker 4: former assistant Attorney general, that it was done for political

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01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:04,599
Speaker 4: reasons to stop him from running. And the media didn't

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Speaker 4: cover it, how ridiculous it was to indict Donald Trump.

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01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 4: They were cheerleaders on this hand, the media saying, how

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01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 4: ridiculous is it to indict James Gami? How come the

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Speaker 4: media is so inconsistent other coverage of these criminal investigations.

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Speaker 6: Well, the reason for that, for that is that these

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01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:25,599
Speaker 6: people are hoping that the rest of us don't remember

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01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:27,800
Speaker 6: back ten years. Let's go back to it. Let's go

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01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 6: back to our memory after this business, after we knew

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01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:35,959
Speaker 6: that in the summer twenty sixteen, there were these leaks

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01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 6: about Trump and the Russian collusion, which Muller eventually debunked

1803
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 6: two years later. People forget that in January of twenty seventeen,

1804
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 6: when Obama was still in the office and Democrats would

1805
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:52,000
Speaker 6: like to pretend there was no politicization of the DOJ,

1806
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:58,799
Speaker 6: the non politicized Obama DOJ and in collusion with Coney

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01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 6: at that time January twenty seventeen investigated and indicted Michael

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01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:10,640
Speaker 6: Flynn for exactly the same charges facing Kobe Line and obstruction.

1809
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Speaker 6: So if Kittinger is saying no one ever does anything

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Speaker 6: about it, now, lots so true. You started it, and

1811
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:21,640
Speaker 6: in fact, in fact that the Democrats.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, is it fair to say the Democrats were the

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01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 4: party when Trump was in the White House and out

1814
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 4: of the White House that launched these investigations resulting in indictments.

1815
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 4: And not just Donald Trump got indicted. There were thirty

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01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 4: to forty others the National Seat. There were all kinds

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Speaker 4: of regular people who were around the Trump orbit, and

1818
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 4: they wanted to indict them. I know how the game

1819
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 4: is played to testify against Donald Trump. Then deals would

1820
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 4: be offered to everyone around Donald Trump to get him.

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Speaker 4: Is that correct?

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Speaker 6: Well again, Bill, they like to think that we don't remember. Yeah,

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01:44:55,760 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 6: we all remember twenty three twenty four when JACKSONI and

1824
01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 6: let Titia James and Fannie Willis, all of whom have

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01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:08,160
Speaker 6: been proven to have been colluding. Let's use that word.

1826
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:12,720
Speaker 6: With Biden's DOJ, the legicization of the DOJ, all of

1827
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 6: them were trying to find people who would do deals.

1828
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 6: Michael Cohen. Anybody remember Michael Cohen, and he remember anyone

1829
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 6: remembered the fact he was offered a deal. Look, Bill,

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01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 6: you and I you have your experience, I have mine.

1831
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 6: We all of us want to see this stopping. We

1832
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 6: all of us want to see the constitution and the

1833
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 6: rule of law in the United States made sacrisagged again.

1834
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:39,480
Speaker 6: But for the Democrats to say it's only the Republicans

1835
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 6: and it's revenge is rubbish. This was started with delegitimizing

1836
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 6: elections and then with then politicizing the DOJ. That started

1837
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 6: under Obama, with Clinton and the Steve dossier. He carried

1838
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 6: on through Flynn. He carried on under Donald Trump when

1839
01:45:56,600 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 6: for two years Muller special counsel held out that Donald

1840
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 6: Trump was definitely going to be found guilty occlusion and

1841
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:07,280
Speaker 6: then came out and said no, he wasn't. In then

1842
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:13,599
Speaker 6: continuing under Biden Hunter Biden and the interference there and

1843
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:16,679
Speaker 6: he continued with his pardon what we want to see

1844
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 6: is this stop? But it is not the case in

1845
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 6: my opinion, and I'll tell you something, Bill. I'm a liberal,

1846
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 6: I'm not a Republican. I didn't vote for Donald Trump.

1847
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:26,640
Speaker 6: But what I have seen with Donald Trump is not

1848
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 6: that he's acting in revenge. He is merely picking up

1849
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:34,080
Speaker 6: what happened in twenty sixteen. Well, people will say, why

1850
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:37,599
Speaker 6: didn't he do that during his first term, because for

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01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:41,599
Speaker 6: two years at least the national security and law enforcement

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01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 6: apparatus of Washington worked against him. James Clapper, Brennan Comy

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01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:51,599
Speaker 6: until he was fired, were all undermining his presidency. I'm

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01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:52,439
Speaker 6: not making this up.

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Speaker 10: As a liberal.

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01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 6: At the time, I wrote about this and said, people,

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01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,320
Speaker 6: what are we doing? This is not the way this

1858
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 6: is space to happen. Why are national security and dog

1859
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 6: people briefing against their president? Trump is now their president.

1860
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 6: That happened for two yearsn't it? Whilst until Muller came

1861
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:15,280
Speaker 6: out pale faced and said there was no Russian pollusion,

1862
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:18,639
Speaker 6: the people got a shock and suddenly realized that something

1863
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 6: else has been going on. It has nothing happened during Biden.

1864
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:25,920
Speaker 6: It is only now that Trump and his loyal loyalists,

1865
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,679
Speaker 6: unless he's appointed people who were loyal because the people

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01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:31,679
Speaker 6: who were there before weren't loyal. It is only now

1867
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:34,679
Speaker 6: that he is starting to turn to this and it's

1868
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:38,160
Speaker 6: been what ten months. Ten months isn't a long time.

1869
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 6: It took Jack Smith three years to indict We're not

1870
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 6: Jack Smith, but the DOJ three years to indict Donald Trump.

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Speaker 6: So he's moving as fast as he can. Tony is

1872
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:51,599
Speaker 6: only the beginning. It will continue with the Steele dossier,

1873
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 6: It will continue with Tulsey Gabbard's ICA report. This is

1874
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:58,679
Speaker 6: only the beginning. And what everyone needs to do, in fact,

1875
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:02,599
Speaker 6: with most matters political vote, is calm down and start

1876
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 6: trusting the process again.

1877
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Speaker 4: Jeff Gilson, I'm glad you admitted you're a liberal that

1878
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,519
Speaker 4: didn't vote for Trump. Therefore your opinion mays may have

1879
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:12,040
Speaker 4: more credibility than others. I would point out that a

1880
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 4: Keem Jeffries, the House Minority leader, said a few days ago,

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01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 4: you know what goes around comes around. Whoever's involved in

1882
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 4: indicting James Coney. At some point we're going to be

1883
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:23,720
Speaker 4: back in charge, and Donald Trump's wait a minute, goes

1884
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 4: around comes around. Now I'm coming the round because it's

1885
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 4: already happened to me and all my people wants, and

1886
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 4: at some point doesn't the madness have to stop at

1887
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 4: some point, at some point, the two parties got to

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01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:35,680
Speaker 4: stop it.

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Speaker 6: Exactly, Bill and Frankly, I thank you for pointing up

1890
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 6: back to my liberal because I'll put my hand up

1891
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 6: and say this. I'll be the first. Let's get off

1892
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:49,200
Speaker 6: the bandwagon. Let's stop this. This is doing nothing but

1893
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:53,799
Speaker 6: causing people to lose trust in their government. In great Brittany,

1894
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 6: I picked up. I have an English accent. I'm an

1895
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 6: American citizen, but I was born and raised in England.

1896
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 6: We have a term that I really a joy. It's

1897
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 6: called the loyal opposition. You fight an election, you fight

1898
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 6: it with passion, you fight it with honor, and when

1899
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:09,680
Speaker 6: you lose, you shake hands and you say we're going

1900
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:11,880
Speaker 6: to be on your tail. We're going to oppose you,

1901
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:14,599
Speaker 6: but we're going to do it loyally. We are loyal

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01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 6: to the people. No one is being loyal to the people.

1903
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:19,800
Speaker 6: With both sides at the moment are engaged in the

1904
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:23,880
Speaker 6: screaming and the sloganeering, but particularly led by the Democrats.

1905
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:26,800
Speaker 6: Well the Democrats ought to be saying, is we did this,

1906
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 6: we knew it was going to come around. We'll keep

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01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:32,639
Speaker 6: trust the trial, Well wait till that happens, Let's get

1908
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:35,040
Speaker 6: on and avoid the shutdown, right, That's what they ought

1909
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:35,479
Speaker 6: to be doing.

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Speaker 4: You know, it used to be that the Democrats and Republicans.

1911
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 4: You may have more of a British orientation, but for

1912
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:46,560
Speaker 4: decades centuries, the parties fought like crazy. The results of

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01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 4: the election were known, and then Democrats and Republicans in

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01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 4: the Senate of the House will get together and say, look,

1915
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 4: let's put aside our political garb for the next year

1916
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:56,920
Speaker 4: and a half to two years. We'll worry about the

1917
01:49:56,960 --> 01:50:00,160
Speaker 4: next election a year from November, and let's fight find

1918
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Speaker 4: out how we can work together. That didn't work anymore. Well,

1919
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:05,879
Speaker 4: I think what happened in twenty sixteen when Trump was elected.

1920
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Speaker 4: It was a shock to the system. The system did

1921
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:10,800
Speaker 4: not believe he could win. And the system knew what

1922
01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 4: they had done to Donald Trump, and they feared that

1923
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 4: when Trump got into power on January twenty seventeen, he

1924
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:19,800
Speaker 4: would discover what the Democrats had done. So they kept

1925
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:23,679
Speaker 4: the investigations going and kept the hunting going to ruin

1926
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Speaker 4: and to make him possible. Donald Trump going back in

1927
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:29,600
Speaker 4: time doing diict those responsible for all the crap that

1928
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 4: he went through in twenty sixteen, and so they were

1929
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 4: successful to an extent. For the next four years, lots

1930
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 4: of stuff occurred. COVID happened. Near the end, you had

1931
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:41,719
Speaker 4: the Moler investigation resulting in nothing. He was impeached two times,

1932
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, the system said, wait

1933
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Speaker 4: a minute. In twenty I don't know twenty one twenty two,

1934
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:50,320
Speaker 4: what happens if Trump runs for reelection. Oh my gosh,

1935
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:52,479
Speaker 4: he's going to find out again what we've done to him,

1936
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 4: So we better go after him hard. So Fanny Willis,

1937
01:50:55,520 --> 01:51:00,640
Speaker 4: Nathan Wade, the New York prosecutors all had meetings in

1938
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:04,080
Speaker 4: the White House to coordinate indictments, including in the state

1939
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:06,920
Speaker 4: of Arizona. Alvin braggs is center of New York City,

1940
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 4: to indict Trump and everyone around him to make sure

1941
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 4: he didn't get back in power. And a boomeranged on him,

1942
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 4: a boomerang Jeff Gilson. The American people said, this looks terrible,

1943
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:18,559
Speaker 4: this is wrong. I think part of the reason Trump

1944
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 4: won in twenty twenty four was what the Democrats did

1945
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Speaker 4: him in twenty one and twenty two. Sitting in that

1946
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Speaker 4: thirty filthy New York City courtroom, I had on his son,

1947
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 4: Eric Trump quite often talking about his father will not break.

1948
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Speaker 4: And then he was found guilty. He was guilty of

1949
01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:37,879
Speaker 4: some I don't know, forty or ninety some counts resulting

1950
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Speaker 4: in probation and nothing else. And so the Democrats played

1951
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Speaker 4: the game and lost. In twenty sixteen, they said, oh

1952
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Speaker 4: my god, here he comes again. Let's get him indict it.

1953
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 4: And then he won again. Now he'll cut He's coming

1954
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:51,799
Speaker 4: back now with vengeance. And I think that's the difference. Vengeance.

1955
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Speaker 6: Well, you know what, you know what a bill I'm

1956
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:57,000
Speaker 6: reminded of. There's no one else there, He's ryan else.

1957
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Speaker 6: But I'll introduce it. South Africa, Nelson Mandala released from

1958
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:05,679
Speaker 6: prison and a black majority government and there was peaceing

1959
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 6: and there wasn't the civil war people were expecting. And

1960
01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 6: I read of a meeting in one of the conferences

1961
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Speaker 6: between a white delegation and the black delegation about what

1962
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:22,880
Speaker 6: should be done? How do we start talks? And the

1963
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Speaker 6: black leader, the leader who eventually killing president of Sada. Yeah, no,

1964
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 6: it was a guy called Mbikie. The This is while

1965
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:36,080
Speaker 6: the Mandela was set of prison, and then Biki went

1966
01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 6: to the white leader and said, look, what do we

1967
01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:41,240
Speaker 6: need to do to get talk starting. Why won't you start?

1968
01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 6: Why won't you start the talks? And the white guy

1969
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 6: finally admitted. He said, we're terrified you'll never forgive us

1970
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Speaker 6: right right. And then Biki said, what do you need?

1971
01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:54,320
Speaker 6: And I came back and said, I've spoken with my

1972
01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 6: president and he says, what are your terms? What are

1973
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 6: your conditions start talks? And Abiki looked a him in

1974
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:03,160
Speaker 6: the eyes said none, There are no conditions. The past

1975
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 6: is past has billed a future. Amen, that's what we

1976
01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 6: need Bill to do. Now, I'm reminded of something else.

1977
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Speaker 6: Maybe people will remember this. I remember and it's not

1978
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 6: just a story. It's true. At the end of every

1979
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 6: day in the eighties, Tip O'Neill would go to the

1980
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:21,800
Speaker 6: White House, go into the Oval office and sit down

1981
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 6: with Ronald Reagan and have a glass of scotch. That

1982
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Speaker 6: politics has been lost and we need to find it again.

1983
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Speaker 4: Jeff Gilson no one. Yeah, your column is excellent and

1984
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:37,599
Speaker 4: the headline is Comy Island former FBI director goes from

1985
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:40,839
Speaker 4: top cop to castaway maroon and legal waters. I encourage

1986
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:42,639
Speaker 4: people to get it. I love what you said about

1987
01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:45,559
Speaker 4: South Africa and about Tip O'Neil and Ronald Reagan. We

1988
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 4: need that back. Mutually assured destruction, cease fire. Let's move on.

1989
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Speaker 4: Jeff Gilson, I love this interview. Thanks for coming on

1990
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Speaker 4: the Bill Cunningham Show. And Jeff, you're a great American.

1991
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Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Thank you, Bill, God bless you.

1992
01:53:57,680 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 4: Let's continue. That guy's got it right right there, and

1993
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:03,000
Speaker 4: this is revenge, but at some point it's got to stop.

1994
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Speaker 4: Go Cunningham the Great American. Live with you every Sunday

1995
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Speaker 4: Night by Billy Cunningham the Great American. Thanks for listening tonight.

1996
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Speaker 4: Loved hearing from Reverend Lucas Miles. One of the confidents

1997
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:22,640
Speaker 4: of Charlie Kirk from Turning Point, USA book is the

1998
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 4: Pagan Threat, and the pagan threat is on college campuses.

1999
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:29,599
Speaker 4: The pagan threat is out of Hollywood, the pagan threat

2000
01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:33,280
Speaker 4: is in the mayor's position and some police departments. The

2001
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:36,560
Speaker 4: pagan threat is everywhere, and to get the book and

2002
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:39,879
Speaker 4: understand the police do. Also, I want to thank especially

2003
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 4: Erica Sonsey of parents defending education about Ian Roberts and

2004
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 4: things of that character. How could that happen? How could

2005
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 4: he fall He fell through the ranks in Des Moines

2006
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:54,120
Speaker 4: Iowa as a felon as a superintendent of schools because

2007
01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:57,160
Speaker 4: of his life story and because of his race, and

2008
01:54:57,240 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 4: the white liberals that run the school district into mine,

2009
01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:03,840
Speaker 4: eyes glazed over their head thinking about DEI Principles and

2010
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 4: somebody from Guyana, and they were responsible to properly screen

2011
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:10,840
Speaker 4: this guy, and they failed to do so. Also, of course,

2012
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Speaker 4: I want to thank Jeff crue Air from New Orleans

2013
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 4: about the Komy situation is going to be arrained, I

2014
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 4: think on Thursday of this week. But as I said

2015
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 4: earlier tonight, I'd like to know more about how why

2016
01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:27,480
Speaker 4: was Charlie Kirk left so vulnerable in that position, and

2017
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 4: why weren't the tops of those buildings covered, much as

2018
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:32,520
Speaker 4: I like to know why the top of the building

2019
01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:34,840
Speaker 4: wouldn't cover when Donald Trump came within a half an

2020
01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:37,960
Speaker 4: inch of being murdered. That thing is also rather quiet,

2021
01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 4: and I do trust Cash Ptel and Dan BoNT you

2022
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Speaker 4: to give us the truth about Charlie Kirk. Let's continue

2023
01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:46,480
Speaker 4: with more next Sunday Night. Bill Cunningham with you every

2024
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Speaker 4: Sunday Night.