1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Chuck Ingram fifty five K see the talk station. It's 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: like nothing to it, right, Chris Smitheman is with us 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: in studio this morning, and when Chris Smithaman is here, 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: the celebrity hotline just blows up. So we just got 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: done talking with a vike Ramaswami. Now we turned to 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: the former congressman. Well, I guess I'm never really a 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: former congressman, but you know it's all. It's my pleasure 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: to welcome in brad Winstrip to the show today and Congressman, 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: how are you today? 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: I'm doing fine. Thank you. It's been a pleasure to 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: listen to two of my friends, top common Sense, actually 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 2: three with the Veke coming on there. 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: He's terrific. You know, we were talking about a little 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: bit about Amy acting and what was going on during 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: the Wuhan, and I was telling Chris, it was several 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: months ago when your committee came out with the report 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: on what happened during the COVID nineteen and just how 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: eye opening and how revealing that report was. And I 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: still remember that day. You sat right across from me 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: and we had an hour in the studio to talk 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: about that and really only scratch the surface of what 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: was revealed during that time, But the educational aspect of 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: this is something that I think gets overlooked a lot. 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: And the damage that was in They talked about that, 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: the damage that was done to these kids by the 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: way they were handled during the Wuhan and really how 27 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: they were poorly served. The Teachers' Union was probably served 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: just fine, but when it came to actually dealing with 29 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: the kids, they got the short end of the stick. 30 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: You know, it was interesting. We had Randy Weingarten and 31 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: for an open hearing, and the day before her people 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: came in, counted how many seats are in the hearing room. 33 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: They made sure that they brought in all their people 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: and took up every seat in the hearing room to 35 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: be there to support her. But you know, we conducted 36 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: the entire two year pandemic review in a way that 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: you don't see very often in two years. On the 38 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: Republican side, we didn't mention Republican or Democrat. One time. 39 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: We didn't. We didn't talk about political party. But you know, 40 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 2: when she was in there, she was getting kudos from 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: the Democrats. But as we went through things and we 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: were able to go through their emails during this time 43 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: and what they were talking about. One of the things 44 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: that stood out with the conversations amongst the teachers' union 45 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: leadership was that they said we need a trigger to close. 46 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 2: Not once did I find anything that said we need 47 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: to get the kids back in the classroom. It's important 48 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: that we get them caught up. They're never going to 49 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: be able to succeed if we don't get them in 50 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: the classroom and teaching them one way or another. 51 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: Well don't I don't want to interrupt you. But was 52 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: that the hearing where she was trying to rewrite history 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: where she was saying I never advocated for schools to 54 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: be closed. We were the ones who were trying to 55 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: get them reopen. Was that was that the hearing where 56 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: she was trying to do that? 57 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: She she did have statements like that, And then I 58 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: think there was some group they worked with, maybe in 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: Massachusetts later to talk about school reopenings, But that was 60 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: way late in the whole situation. And what you guys 61 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: were talking about is fair. You know, there was a 62 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: there were the schools, and I would tell you my 63 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: rural schools were open too, and the district that I 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: represented went all the way to West Virginia and the 65 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: rural schools they went to class, they went to class. 66 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: It was more city based than anywhere else, but it 67 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: was it was a problem for sure. And they've done nothing, 68 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: and they still that I know, have not addressed how 69 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: we're going to get our kids up up to speed. 70 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: And we're falling terribly behind other countries as we know. 71 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: I saw recently one that said a seventh grader in 72 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: America on average, is at the level of a third 73 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: grader in China. 74 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: How about that. Let me let me ask you another 75 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: question about something that has come up recently, and Scott Assent, 76 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: the Secretary of the Treasury, said it was probably three 77 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: or four weeks ago that he was looking at putting 78 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: a number on the amount of fraud that goes on 79 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: with various government programs, and he put that number at 80 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: six hundred billion dollars every year. Brad winstrip that gets 81 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: wasted and is just flushed down the drain. As it 82 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: relates to fraud in this country. The number is probably 83 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: actually bigger than that. But when you hear a number 84 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: like that every single year that we are losing six 85 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars, it's a fraud in this country. Does 86 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: that shock you or surprise you at all? The number 87 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: is that big? 88 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: Not at this point it might. It might have surprised 89 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: me when I first started the in Congress, but it 90 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: didn't when I got towards the end, because I could 91 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: see exactly why this was happening in so many fronts. 92 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: Part of it is that the agencies don't really have 93 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: the capabilities to catch. And then the other thing is 94 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: when we went through the COVID era, for example, on 95 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: Ways and Means Committee, when they were talking about unemployment 96 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: and taking care of those benefits and getting all that out, 97 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: the Democrats insisted on self attestation. In other words, you 98 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: can have to prove in any way, shape and shape 99 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: or form really who you were and are you really unemployed? 100 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: And we thought that and they insisted on no, you 101 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: don't have to attest and improve in any way. It's 102 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: kind of goes with the voting thing. You don't have 103 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: to prove really who you are. And I don't get this, 104 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 2: but it's created a lot of mayhem and certainly has 105 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: ripped off the taxpayers. So everyone who goes to work 106 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: and pay taxes need to know that it's these types 107 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 2: of policies and deficiencies within the agencies. That is throwing 108 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 2: their hard earned dollars out the window to people not 109 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: only in this country that are committing fraud, but overseas. 110 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: As you look at why it has become in pops 111 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 1: to pass legislation that would deal with voter identification, why 112 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: has this debate gone the way it's gone. 113 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: Well, I think that they have their reasons. They'll they'll 114 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: try and throw out everything is is Jim Crow and 115 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: this and that, but they know that they can go 116 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: around and rally people to vote in California, you know, 117 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: going door to door. The policies are somewhat crazy and 118 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: requiring an ID would make it more difficult for them 119 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: to be able to do that, I guess is their reason. 120 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: But there really is no good reason. Everything requires an 121 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: ID today and they know it. And I think that 122 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 2: real American citizens, people that care about this country, people 123 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: that value their citizenship, will be the ones to say, yes, 124 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: you should value your citizenship the same way I do, 125 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: and prove that you are a US citizen and you 126 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: are who you are. And I think the majority of people, 127 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: as we know, this is the common sense issue that 128 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: has high value, and I don't understand why they want 129 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: to keep pursuing just the opposite. It doesn't even make. 130 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: Eighty plus percent of Republicans agree with this. Seventy six 131 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: seventy seven percent of Democrats want this. You've got Hispanics 132 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: and other minorities in the seventy percent range that want this, 133 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: and the notion that we can't get the Save America 134 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: Act through and have common sense legislation that says, you know, 135 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: we want American citizens to vote in our elections and 136 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: we don't want illegal aliens voting in our elections. It 137 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: just if you would have told me ten years ago 138 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: that we'd be having a problem getting legislation like this approved, 139 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: especially when Republicans have control of the White House, the House, 140 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,239 Speaker 1: and the Senate, I would have said that you're crazy 141 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: about that. 142 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: Well, of course, the problem predominantly lives in the Senate. 143 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: And let's just face it, there are just too many 144 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: people in the Democrat Party that if Donald Trump says 145 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: he's in favor of something, they will be against it. 146 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: I mean, just you watch it visibly during the State 147 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: of the Union. I mean, the wonderful things that he 148 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: was pointing out many times they couldn't even applaud because 149 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: he said it. And when you let your hatred dominate 150 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: your common sense and overrule your common sense, it's really 151 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: a problem for us as a country, especially if you're 152 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: in a position of leadership serving in the House of 153 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: the Senate. That is a problem for America today. And 154 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 2: I'm ashamed that some people can't get over it. And 155 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: it's been interesting to hear the comments from John Fetterman, 156 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: Democrat senator who seems to be going in the other 157 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: direction from many of his Democrat colleagues. 158 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's turned out to be a bit of a surprise, 159 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: and it turned out to be actually courageous in the 160 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: fact that and he's not doing anything that's all that radical. 161 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: He's simply looking at the facts and the truth of 162 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: the situation and speaking truth to what's actually going on. 163 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: But brad Winstrip, we're up against the clock. We gotta run. 164 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for checking in this morning, and 165 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: Chris Smitheman has something for you real quick. 166 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: Congressman, thank you so much for coming on. Great and 167 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: I and and both both Dan Carroll and I and 168 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: I think I thanked him for his service, and we 169 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: thank you for your service, your military service to our country. 170 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: Well Dame of you fellows. Thank you so much, God 171 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: bless you 172 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: All right, Brad,