WEBVTT - 11-4-25 The Nightcap with Gary Jeff Walker

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Nightcap on seven under WLW Election night

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<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati and elsewhere, and of course we'll be covering

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<v Speaker 1>those results.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like have Ted purvol has been it's projected

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<v Speaker 2>to win the mayor's race in Cincinnati, and the city

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<v Speaker 2>council isn't changing.

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<v Speaker 3>And you have to scratch your head and wonder.

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<v Speaker 2>Why, except that people who were concerned about the way

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<v Speaker 2>things have been going didn't turn out and vote again Again,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get to that. Gary Jeff with you on this

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday night, November fourth, and it is off yr election night.

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<v Speaker 3>And before we begin, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Some thoughts on election night, especially one of these next

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<v Speaker 2>to your course in midterms and you will see greater

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<v Speaker 2>turnout and more enthusiasm and more energy and more electricity

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<v Speaker 2>around that because it really determines the balance of power

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<v Speaker 2>in our federal government. But all politics is local, I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you have routinely in a city, say like Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>where only twenty percent of the population turns out, unless

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<v Speaker 2>it's a presidential election or even a midterm election, a

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<v Speaker 2>mayoral election, this is the election that controls how your

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<v Speaker 2>city is governed, where you live, and you don't show

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<v Speaker 2>up at the polls unless you are one of those

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<v Speaker 2>extremely partisan people. And in the city of Cincinnati, most

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<v Speaker 2>of those extremely partisan people are Democrats, obviously by the

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<v Speaker 2>results that we get in almost every election for how

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<v Speaker 2>many of the last few decades, fifty sixty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't expect change if you don't go out and

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<v Speaker 2>pull the lever, or you don't have your vote registered.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was thinking about that too from my particular standpoint,

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<v Speaker 2>and not just in off year elections. I had nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to vote for it all. I live in northern Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>and there was nothing on the ballot on the issues

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<v Speaker 2>really for me to voice my opinion about, which I

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<v Speaker 2>do every time I get a chance. I don't live

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<v Speaker 2>in Cincinnati. I don't live in Cleveland either, Samwish, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't live in New Jersey or Virginia or New

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<v Speaker 2>York City. And the way I am seeing these races

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<v Speaker 2>shape up around the country, I'm really glad I don't

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<v Speaker 2>because I wouldn't vote for any of these people who

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<v Speaker 2>are the current front runners right now, unless even if

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<v Speaker 2>I had a gun to my head, even if I

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<v Speaker 2>was being promised everything free for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>We have politicians offering you free stuff, all freedom goes away,

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<v Speaker 2>all real freedom, and those of us who are smart

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<v Speaker 2>enough know that. I wouldn't say that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>gen z qualifies as smart enough. And apparently in New

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<v Speaker 2>York City at least they've been energized to vote for

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<v Speaker 2>a communist calling whatever you want. But there are more

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<v Speaker 2>important things. My wife and I just got back from

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<v Speaker 2>Middle Tennessee to see my parents this weekend. Had a

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<v Speaker 2>great overnight visit with mom and dad on Sunday, came

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<v Speaker 2>back yesterday afternoon. Not enough time, but at least we

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<v Speaker 2>got to go. My dad was eighty nine last Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>night on November or October thirtieth, eighty nine and still

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<v Speaker 2>just hanging in there. My mother is eighty eight, and

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<v Speaker 2>she is absolutely a machine, energizer, bunner, a bunny plus.

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<v Speaker 2>But I got off the phone with my mom this

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<v Speaker 2>afternoon found out that quite suddenly, one of my younger brothers,

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<v Speaker 2>John had emergency surgery, just out of the blue, to

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<v Speaker 2>reconnect his intestines with his stomach. Stuff wasn't getting through.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is just like like that. Nobody knew anything

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<v Speaker 2>was wrong until it was, and he's in ICU right

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<v Speaker 2>now at a hospital in Smyrna, Tennessee. My brother John,

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<v Speaker 2>My brother Dwyane, who was going to take my mother

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<v Speaker 2>from Hendersonville out to Smyrna to see my brother in

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital, had a car accident on the way to

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<v Speaker 2>go to pick my mom up. Must be the bare

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<v Speaker 2>moon on the way. Our first guest of the evening

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<v Speaker 2>is a woman who is an independent journalist. She is

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<v Speaker 2>a White House reporter. Her name is Karin Clifford, and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about the implications for the Trump administration with

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<v Speaker 2>the elections that are going on tonight and what it

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<v Speaker 2>means for the midterms. Who knows Karinn Clifford on the

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<v Speaker 2>way In just a few moments. My old buddy Rick Robinson,

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<v Speaker 2>lawyer and author and friend, will join us at nine

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five. He spent many a year in Washington, d c.

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<v Speaker 3>And in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Powers of political the corridors of political power in the

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<v Speaker 2>Commonwealth of Kentucky. Worked with Jim Bunning when he was

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<v Speaker 2>in the Senate. He will join us a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>later on this hour. Jim Nacy, who knows a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about elections. He's won some, he's lost some, and has

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<v Speaker 2>some definite opinions, not only on what went on around

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<v Speaker 2>the country in the elections that were held, but also

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<v Speaker 2>the government shut down, which is shaping up now to

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<v Speaker 2>be the longest ever in our country's history. And at

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<v Speaker 2>eleven o'clock we will have an hour of sports for

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<v Speaker 2>the out of sorts. The wild Man Ann Furman will

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<v Speaker 2>join us regular Night Cap contributors, and you can be

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<v Speaker 2>a contributor to The phone lines are open all night,

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<v Speaker 2>so I've got anything that sparks your fancy or you

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<v Speaker 2>want to chime in on elections or otherwise. And of course,

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<v Speaker 2>the horrific plane takeoff crash in Louisville today around ten

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<v Speaker 2>after five this afternoon that laid a huge swath of

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<v Speaker 2>fire all over the runway at Muhammad Ali International Airport,

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<v Speaker 2>left three people dead, eleven injured, and thousands under a

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<v Speaker 2>stay in place order with the jet fuel all over

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<v Speaker 2>the place and fire and the ensuing smoke from that fire.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's been a big day, not necessarily the kind

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<v Speaker 2>that you want to see, but lots to cover. It's

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<v Speaker 2>nine sixteen current. Think Clifford will join this in just

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<v Speaker 2>a few moments from the Washington Reporters Press Pool on

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred WLW. On this election night, in Cincinnati and

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<v Speaker 2>elsewhere around the country. Gary Jeff with you on the

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<v Speaker 2>Nightcap on seven hundred WLW, joining us now is a

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<v Speaker 2>prominent member of the White House Press Corps, independent journalist

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<v Speaker 2>and spokesperson for SAT one two three dot com, a

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<v Speaker 2>leading provider of emergency communication tools, originally from Pacific Palisades, California, which,

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<v Speaker 2>of course we all saw tragically destroyed by the wildfires

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<v Speaker 2>in January of this year. She has a very personal

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<v Speaker 2>perspective coverage of emergencies and national crises. Just had an

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<v Speaker 2>emergency today at Muhammad Ali International Airport down the road

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<v Speaker 2>in Louisville, Kentucky. Korinn Clifford joins us Karin, Good evening.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand from what my producer says that you're sounding

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<v Speaker 2>a lot like Secretary Kennedy right now.

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<v Speaker 3>You're so horse from doing interviews all day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I sound like Secret Kennedy. I actually sound a

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<v Speaker 4>lot like Demi Moore too. I lost my voice from

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<v Speaker 4>the election coverage I've been doing all day at the

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<v Speaker 4>White House.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. Well, you know, I think it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>quite fetching. And uh I love I love it. I

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<v Speaker 2>love a good voice.

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<v Speaker 4>Especially that one I can give you a really good voice.

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<v Speaker 4>It sounds like to me more.

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<v Speaker 3>It does sound in your in your.

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<v Speaker 2>Former state of California. You know you don't live in California.

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<v Speaker 4>Anymore, right, I live in California.

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<v Speaker 3>You do.

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<v Speaker 4>Virginia, Washington, d C. And Florida, and I registered to

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<v Speaker 4>vote in all three states. I didn't register in DC.

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<v Speaker 4>I registered in California, Virginia, and Florida. And I got

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<v Speaker 4>threatened by the deputy sheriff if I vote, they will

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<v Speaker 4>arrest me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, you should, just you should. You should

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<v Speaker 2>become a Democrat and they'll let you do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly exactly. They're telling me that because I registered in

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<v Speaker 4>three states, which I don't believe right to do that,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't vote. But I didn't vote. I didn't vote

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<v Speaker 4>because what's the point. Yes, the Democrats are winning everything

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<v Speaker 4>because they mess with our elections. I have phone calls

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<v Speaker 4>coming from all over America, from very simple electioneering to

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<v Speaker 4>very complex where they won't let people vote and then

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<v Speaker 4>they just throw your bullet in the trust. In Virginia,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't even have to show ida vote. How is

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<v Speaker 4>that possible?

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<v Speaker 3>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that explains the large margin that Spamberger has over

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<v Speaker 2>wins Sea. Uh, if they've just called New Jersey for

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<v Speaker 2>Mikey Cheryl, do you think do you think that Jack

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<v Speaker 2>Chittarelli after the third time should just say Okay, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else needs this. I will tell you what's interesting though,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just seeing it on the screen, Karen, is

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<v Speaker 2>that in New York mon Donnie is forty nine percent,

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<v Speaker 2>Curtis Lee was eight point nine, Cuoma was forty one.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's literally a dead heat in New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>But because Slee was in the race, it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>Mom Donnie is going to true to form win. This

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<v Speaker 2>may Earl's race there.

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<v Speaker 4>Slee and I love him known personally, he's an amazing person.

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<v Speaker 4>That he should have dropped out of the race. He

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<v Speaker 4>should have dropped out of the race and let Cloma wins.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Between the two of them, they've got forty nine point

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<v Speaker 2>six percent of the vote.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, And did you see that Elon Musk is tweeting

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<v Speaker 4>that there is a weird problem with the ballot in

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<v Speaker 4>New York City. So Elon Musk is admitting that there's

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<v Speaker 4>election corruption, potential fraud happening in the New York City race.

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<v Speaker 3>It wouldn't surprise me a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>After what was pulled off in twenty twenty around the

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<v Speaker 2>country in places like Pennsylvania, And that's all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, yes, And they haven't cleaned the voter rolls in

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<v Speaker 4>New York City, so dead people vote. In Virginia, we

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<v Speaker 4>have a major migrant crisis, and they're letting the illegals vote.

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<v Speaker 4>In California is a train wreck because they're redistricting it.

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<v Speaker 4>We have to go to executive orders by governors and

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<v Speaker 4>of course President Trump to hand count vote. We have

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<v Speaker 4>to use paper ballots and a receipt for you voted for,

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<v Speaker 4>and we have to hand count the vote before the

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty six midterms.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is the only thing you you say

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<v Speaker 2>that will guarantee a free and fair election.

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<v Speaker 3>Karin.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, we're in trouble. Our elections are corrupted. And I've

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<v Speaker 4>interviewed hundreds of people across America because they call me.

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<v Speaker 4>I dogs my phone number and they tell me what

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<v Speaker 4>they're going through. That's why I lost my voice today.

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<v Speaker 4>There's so much election.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you thought you would have thought, Karin talking to

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<v Speaker 2>Karin Clifford, White House reporter and a spokesperson for SAD

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<v Speaker 2>one two three dot com Krinn, you would have thought

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<v Speaker 2>after twenty twenty and the court battles that were won

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<v Speaker 2>too late, after the fact, uh, that we were over

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<v Speaker 2>that in this country. You'd have thought that people enough

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<v Speaker 2>people had woken up to not let that ever happen again.

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<v Speaker 5>But apparently we have to.

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<v Speaker 4>Paper ballot. Of course, id you have idea, but we

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<v Speaker 4>have to handcout the vote. We cannot use machines. We

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<v Speaker 4>cannot trust any machines. And I have studied this for

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<v Speaker 4>years now, for years and years.

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<v Speaker 3>And President Trump has old.

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<v Speaker 4>Team, and we better take action before the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>six the terms. It's going to be a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you think that means communists?

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<v Speaker 6>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, do you think that being said Karin, that

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<v Speaker 2>this election really means anything as far as the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>regaining power in the House or the Senate, or that

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<v Speaker 2>there's some kind of blue wave coming next year or

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<v Speaker 2>this is an aberration and it's all been caused by

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<v Speaker 2>election fraud.

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<v Speaker 4>No, listen, there is no blue waves coming. There is

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<v Speaker 4>no blue waves coming. This is happening because we do

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<v Speaker 4>not have secure elections. We have to go to paper pilots.

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<v Speaker 4>We have to go to hand counting the vote. The

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats to not be winning California is Republican. I interview

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<v Speaker 4>hundreds of people across America. The elections are.

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<v Speaker 2>Corrupted and now and now Newsom has convinced the population

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe through vote fraud, is getting Prop fifty passed,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're going to try and ensure that it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>impossible for a Republican to get elected in the House

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<v Speaker 2>of Representatives from California.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, to read this certainment. So it's a big mess.

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<v Speaker 4>We're in trouble because we haven't taken action. We talk

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<v Speaker 4>that we haven't done any new orders to meet.

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<v Speaker 3>The elections fair, Karen.

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<v Speaker 2>If people want to find out more, they can go

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<v Speaker 2>to If people want to find out more, they go

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<v Speaker 2>to SAT one two three dot com. As far as

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<v Speaker 2>your emergency preparedness that you're heavily involved with, we're out

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<v Speaker 2>of time, sadly, and you, young lady, need to go

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<v Speaker 2>rest your voice.

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<v Speaker 4>God bless you, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>God bless you. Thanks for hanging in there long enough

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<v Speaker 2>for us to get that done. Fraudulent elections in New

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<v Speaker 2>York City, in New Jersey and Virginia, she says, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and in California.

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<v Speaker 3>Scary stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine thirty News time at seven hundred WLW meet the

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<v Speaker 2>new City Council in Cincinnati same as the old city

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<v Speaker 2>council except for Victoria Parks. That atrocity went away anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>And the mayoral r says, you know, has been called

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<v Speaker 2>for f tab purevol for quite a while now. And

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<v Speaker 2>my friend Pastor Cory Bowman, who put on a brilliant campaign,

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<v Speaker 2>just not enough turnout people who truly care about the

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<v Speaker 2>city to make a change and make a difference that

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<v Speaker 2>the city desperately needs. And around the country more election

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<v Speaker 2>results that are all favoring Democrats so far. The race

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<v Speaker 2>just called in New York City a communist, he calls

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<v Speaker 2>himself a Democrat socialist. Zran Memdani is going to win

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<v Speaker 2>with just over fifty percent of the vote.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Cuomo had forty one point three percent of the vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Curtis Leiwa had seven point five percent of the vote.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's forty eight point eight if by math is correct,

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<v Speaker 2>and it seldom is to fifty point four for this

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<v Speaker 2>smiling piece of well, I'm not entitled to an opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't live in New York City. But basically, what

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<v Speaker 2>seems to me to be an empty suit promising everything free.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I mentioned earlier, if everything's free, then you

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<v Speaker 2>really don't have any freedom as an individual. Soviet Union, Venezuela, Cuba,

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<v Speaker 2>check it out, Communist China. To talk about election night,

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who's been on the inner workings of many

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<v Speaker 2>a political campaign. He's been inside the Beltway in Washington, DC,

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<v Speaker 2>He's been to Frankfurt. He probably has a chair there

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<v Speaker 2>at some bourbon bar with his name engraved on the

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<v Speaker 2>back of it. He is our guest. Now, my friend,

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<v Speaker 2>author lawyer Rick Robinson joins us. Hello, mister Robinson, how.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you meet the boss?

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<v Speaker 7>Say?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, boss, that's it.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I welcome to Cincinnati politics. I tell you what,

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<v Speaker 8>you gotta love that one.

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<v Speaker 2>The wheel just goes round and round and round, and

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<v Speaker 2>the and the Gerbils still isn't is any the wiser anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 8>You know you know what I love about that race.

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<v Speaker 8>The guy who broke into the house of the congressional

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<v Speaker 8>candidate Fisher was the day I can't remember. He's not last.

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<v Speaker 2>Well in Virginia, the attorney general might not be the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who fantasized about putting bullets in the head of

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<v Speaker 2>the then Republican Speaker of the House in the Commonwealth.

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<v Speaker 2>He was leading by a slim margin earlier, but a

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<v Speaker 2>split ticket in what is usually fairly blue Virginia. It

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<v Speaker 2>may it may happen that that race has not been called.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as I know, the Attorney General's race with

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<v Speaker 2>Jay Jones, I don't.

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<v Speaker 8>I do not think it has. I've been following a

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<v Speaker 8>couple of these races and I don't think that one

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<v Speaker 8>has been been called yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Who fantasized about putting ahead in mister Gilbert h putting

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<v Speaker 2>bullets in mister Gilbert's head and then having his children

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<v Speaker 2>die in their mother's arms as she wept. This is something.

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<v Speaker 2>This is someone that people in Virginia, you know, still

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<v Speaker 2>feel inclined to vote for.

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<v Speaker 8>That really doesn't fit very well on a bumper sticker.

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<v Speaker 8>You're right about you gotta that's a lot of words.

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<v Speaker 8>You gotta know how you put that on a bumper

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<v Speaker 8>stick right?

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<v Speaker 7>You know?

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<v Speaker 8>Yard sign maybe you know, But yeah, that's still just

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of ready to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, who was a comedian who used to say

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<v Speaker 2>I'll kill you a million times?

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<v Speaker 8>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>It's maybe maybe that's what he should have on his

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<v Speaker 2>bumper sticker. Jay Jones in Virginia. You had some Dick's

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<v Speaker 2>Dick Cheney stories you wanted to share, and and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it would be an appropriate time post mortem.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh I got I got to tell you that there

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<v Speaker 8>are a couple of times that with candidates that I

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<v Speaker 8>was working with are helping out or doing other things,

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<v Speaker 8>Cheney would come in and do these various uh you

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<v Speaker 8>know new fundraiser that was a big deal. I mean

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<v Speaker 8>you getting the vice president to come into things. And

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<v Speaker 8>my favorite one actually, and my my wife and I

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<v Speaker 8>were laughing about this today because we when we when

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<v Speaker 8>we saw this. One of the things you do when

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<v Speaker 8>you when you get to the point of of having

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<v Speaker 8>somebody like that come in for a fundraiser, one of

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<v Speaker 8>the things that's very important is you get a certain

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<v Speaker 8>number of pictures. So when there's a line coming in,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, and you know you got people lined up,

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<v Speaker 8>you may get and fifty clicks and if you're fifty one,

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<v Speaker 8>you don't get a click. Doesn't matter who you are.

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<v Speaker 8>I saw Stan Airnoff turned away one time in the

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<v Speaker 8>air and off building. Whoa he And it's funny he

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<v Speaker 8>looked at the secret third and he goes, you know

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<v Speaker 8>how I am and the guy said Cigaret Thursday. He said, yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 8>you're the first person in the line that's not going

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<v Speaker 8>to get a picture with the vice president. But we

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<v Speaker 8>had this fundraiser coming in and one thing do you

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<v Speaker 8>do when you get these photo lines is you put

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<v Speaker 8>somebody at click zero you get the first picture, which

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<v Speaker 8>when we would run these for buddy and it would

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<v Speaker 8>be my wife, and then we would put somebody at

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<v Speaker 8>the back of the line for click number whatever number

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<v Speaker 8>we were arrest allowed. So Linda is sitting there, and

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<v Speaker 8>what is it interesting in this particular fundraiser is that

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<v Speaker 8>Lynn Cheney came to northern Kentucky as well because she

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<v Speaker 8>hadn't seen her husband for a while. He had been

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<v Speaker 8>on the road of campaigns. So they were meeting in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 8>spend him a couple of days. Here, she's clicked zero.

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<v Speaker 8>She and Lynn Cheney hit it off together. They have

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<v Speaker 8>a wonderful time. They're doing everything she's Lynn Cheney is

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<v Speaker 8>telling her all about her husband, the vice president, everything else.

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<v Speaker 8>He comes walking around the corner and she goes and Linda,

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<v Speaker 8>this is my husband, my husband, the Vice President, Dick Cheney,

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<v Speaker 8>And Linda reaches over with such excitement as having a

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<v Speaker 8>Messa guy and haven't heard about she reaches around and HUNSI. Now,

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<v Speaker 8>one thing you don't do is secret hers around. What

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<v Speaker 8>happened what happened to your wife? Well, you know, you

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<v Speaker 8>know after she was out of the hospital. No, seriously,

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<v Speaker 8>the funny, the funny part of it was like Cheney's

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<v Speaker 8>reaction was like, hey, hey, hey, que in contact. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>So you never you never went hunting with Dick Cheney.

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<v Speaker 8>No, I never went hunting with Dick Cheney. Always always

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<v Speaker 8>stay away from that. I there there are things you

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<v Speaker 8>things you do in politics and things you don't do,

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<v Speaker 8>one of which is don't go bird hunting with Dick Chenning.

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<v Speaker 8>That's a bad idea. What a love to gone fly

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<v Speaker 8>fissuing with him though he was quite a fly fisher.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that, being from from Wyoming and all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>A whole lot of that out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh any other Cheney references? Uh, what's the news of

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<v Speaker 3>his passage?

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<v Speaker 8>That's the same event of Another funny story is that

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<v Speaker 8>the influence of some people have is that everybody knew

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<v Speaker 8>during that time frame the context that Carl Linder had

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<v Speaker 8>with the Bush administration. And we're getting ready to put

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<v Speaker 8>on that fundraiser, and I get a call from the gatekeeper.

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<v Speaker 8>There was a person in ch in uh Carl Linder's

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<v Speaker 8>office that literally was known as quote the gatekeeper.

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<v Speaker 3>She calls me up and.

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<v Speaker 8>She said, you know, you know, mister would like to

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<v Speaker 8>come down and say hi the vice president. And I said,

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<v Speaker 8>you know the routine. I'm going to tell the advanced

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<v Speaker 8>guy what's going on, and he's not going to allow it.

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<v Speaker 8>She said, yeah, but I'd like to try and get

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<v Speaker 8>it through proper channels first and then I'll figure it out.

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<v Speaker 8>So I walked over to the advanced guy and I said,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, there's somebody that you know called him months

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<v Speaker 8>to say hi the vice president of the courtesy. And

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<v Speaker 8>he goes, Rick, you know, I did this all the

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<v Speaker 8>time for the vice president, and every place I go,

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<v Speaker 8>somebody's the vice president's best friend, and you know we

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<v Speaker 8>can't let people back in the hallway to meet him

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<v Speaker 8>without having being clared. And he guts you and I said,

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<v Speaker 8>remember this conversation in fifteen minutes. Fifteen minutes later, the

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<v Speaker 8>guy walks up to me and he goes, who the hell

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<v Speaker 8>is Carl Linder? I said, why is that? He goes,

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<v Speaker 8>I just got a phone call from the White House

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<v Speaker 8>yelling at me what was I doing in so Carl

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<v Speaker 8>Linder that I was to go out and find him

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<v Speaker 8>at his Rolls Royce and escort him personally in the

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<v Speaker 8>back room to say hi to Dick Cheney.

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<v Speaker 5>Who the hell is this guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so you know it's that was one of the

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<v Speaker 8>things I kind of you know, that was one of

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<v Speaker 8>the proud moments where I guess, I'm looking at him,

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<v Speaker 8>went told you.

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<v Speaker 2>So, oh, so I will let you know that they

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<v Speaker 2>just called the race for attorney general in Virginia and

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who threatened to kill the Republican Speaker of

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<v Speaker 2>the House actually won that race.

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<v Speaker 3>That this is just amazing.

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<v Speaker 8>Bumper stickers. It's on a bumper sticker. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>there were a bunch of things, and I, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>on an election night, you and I always talk about this.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, you you are so into the policy side.

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 8>I am so into the political side, and I always

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<v Speaker 8>like to give you the five things that I'm watching.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, on an election Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Because you and I always disagree on on this stuff.

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<v Speaker 8>You kind of look at me like, please don't tell

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<v Speaker 8>me anything more about the horse race, all about the

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 8>horse race. So you know, I'm watching right now looking

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<v Speaker 8>up at the TV and seeing that Aftab has just

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<v Speaker 8>given his his victory speech. But I ran across an

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<v Speaker 8>interesting piece of polling this weekend and it was really

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<v Speaker 8>interesting to me to look at this polling, and it

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<v Speaker 8>particularly pertained to me to the Cincinnati City Council race.

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<v Speaker 8>And the polling basically said, you know, we see all

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<v Speaker 8>this stuff going right direction, wrong direction. Suddenly the wrong

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<v Speaker 8>direction is taking over.

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<v Speaker 3>Whose fault is that?

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<v Speaker 8>You know, Democrats are blaming Republican Republicans are blaming Democrats.

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<v Speaker 9>But if you dig down in this some of the

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<v Speaker 9>polling data, what the other thing you found is Democrats

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<v Speaker 9>are pissed at the Democrat leadership and Republicans are that

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<v Speaker 9>the Republican leadership.

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<v Speaker 8>Which brought me to Cincinnati City Council of going. I

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<v Speaker 8>wonder how the Charter Rights will do.

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 8>Will they make any e dent into all of this?

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<v Speaker 8>And you just told me that apparently that apparently not,

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<v Speaker 8>which surprised me. I thought, you know, it, having such

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<v Speaker 8>a background in Cincinnati at the Charter Right Party, that

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<v Speaker 8>with the problems going on in the city, here's some

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<v Speaker 8>people going out there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you know Chris.

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<v Speaker 8>Smitherman running as an independent. You know Steve Gooden, my

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<v Speaker 8>my pal used to practice law with him. Uh, you

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 8>know running as a charter right. I thought i'd have

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<v Speaker 8>an impact. I really did. And obviously no change. It

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<v Speaker 8>looks like in a city council.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the change has to come from the voter obviously, unless,

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<v Speaker 2>as my friend Karin Clifford, who was on with me

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<v Speaker 2>before the news breaks, as the voting machines have to

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<v Speaker 2>be changed.

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<v Speaker 3>But the change, you can't blame me.

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<v Speaker 8>I disagree with her all that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why you disagree. I'm I'm all in

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<v Speaker 2>favor of all paper ballots all the time, hand counted.

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<v Speaker 8>With. All you have to do is look at one race,

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<v Speaker 8>is get heady race and gets thrown in Kentucky, paper

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<v Speaker 8>ballots are the downfall of them. They're the easiest going

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 8>to pick the race. I will save that for another.

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 8>We'll save that for another.

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 2>But no, you have to blame ultimately the voters, I

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:44.959
<v Speaker 2>mean absolutely for not coming out number one. The turnout instance,

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't have an exact figure on the turnout in Cincinnati,

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 2>but it usually is about twenty percent and that's you know,

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 2>unless it's a presidential election, unless it's a national federal election,

0:28:56.960 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 2>the president's on the ballot, then you have closer to

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 2>forty to fifty percent turnout in Cincinnati. But for these

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 2>races that should matter most to the local voter, they

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 2>don't show up. Rick Only the partisans show up, the

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 2>real partisan. But the average person, the average person whose

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 2>life is going to be adversely or positively affected by

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 2>the result.

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 3>They don't show up.

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 2>The guy who's working a job, who has a family,

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>who is struggling to make ends meet, who's trying to

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 2>just get home safely every night to his wife. And

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're just trying to get home to their families,

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 2>men and women, and they see the carnage and the

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 2>chaos every single day, and they want to change. Why

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 2>don't they actively pursue change instead of sitting on their

0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 2>hands and ignoring it.

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 8>There used to be a guy in northern Kentucky who

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 8>was in the Republican Party who used to refer to

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 8>it as the recalcitrant Republicans.

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean Democrats, I mean even passive Democrats. Recalcitrant

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Democrats don't show up. If twenty percent is all that's

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 2>turning out for a mayoral and city council race. That

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 2>means Democrats are staying home too, because they know they

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 2>got all of the diehards to carry their water for them,

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 2>and they'll be happy with the result no matter who

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 2>the person is, as long as there's a D in

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 2>front of their name. I think it's ridiculous. Just real quickly,

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 2>in the last few minutes, we've got rick other things.

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 2>You said to watch.

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 8>For other things. Everybody's talking about New York. Who cares

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 8>it's New York. Put it to the side. It is

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 8>interesting that he's talking big, big national issues in a

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 8>local race. Better to watch as to what's going on

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 8>with progressive mayor races. I look at Albuquerque mayor races.

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 8>The progressive mayor all nonpartisan ballot come under fire in

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 8>the last, uh, you know, several several years. Let's take

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 8>a look at that see if in fact he can

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 8>you know, I think he's gonna win reelection, but with

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 8>what number crowded ballot. Certainly going to has the shot

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 8>in the crowded ballot. But a much better race to

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:36.959
<v Speaker 8>look at on the progressive local level, uh than New

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 8>York City. Virginia and California or Virginia New Jersey. The

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 8>interesting thing that I'm seeing so far is that not

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 8>necessarily that the Democrat won in those in those states.

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 8>New Jersey is a is a D state that will

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 8>occasionally go are in local races, but still a pretty

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 8>strong D, say Virginia. The same thing what I'm seeing

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 8>though early on, is that several counties flipped, especially in

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 8>New Jersey. Now this is backed by a very weak

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 8>comparison candidate because you're comparing it against the Harris campaign

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 8>that although they won both of those states, did not

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 8>win with the margins that they probably should have. But

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 8>as you take a look at it, a lot of

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 8>those counties are flipping, like to see what's going on there.

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 8>And the final thing is the and I guess the

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 8>thing that I'm not watching. I'm not watching proposition fifty.

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 8>Why it's because it's a point in time in a month,

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 8>it could be a different point in time, But it

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 8>doesn't tell me anything about what's going to happen in

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 8>the future voter turnout in anything.

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So even if the districts are in what Princeton

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 2>called the worst jerrymandering ever done in the history of

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 2>the country by their independent analysis of that that that's

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 2>not a big deal.

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 8>I'm against first off, I'm against all of the redistricting

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 8>and the to to get advantages in the terms. I'm

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 8>against it in Texas, I'm against it in California. I'm

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 8>against it if they try and do it in Pennsylvania,

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 8>you name it, where they're doing it. I'm against changing

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 8>the rules in the middle of theutry. I think that's

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 8>a bad policy. I think that's bad government. All right,

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 8>But you know, California, it's the point of time for them.

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 8>It has no indications as to where anything's going to

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 8>go in the next in the next election.

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 2>All right, Rick, thank you so much. It's uh, it's

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 2>good to have a conversation with you again. It's good

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 2>to have you on tonight. It's good to talk to

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 2>you anytime. And uh, my best will wish is for

0:33:57.880 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 2>your health and everything else that's going on.

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 8>All right, bro oh, thanks, cal I appreciate it.

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 3>You got it. Jim Ornacy will join us after the news,

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 3>which is next. It is the night camp on election night.

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm seven under WLW all over but the shout and

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 2>we're going to shout a little bit more between now

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 2>and midnight still to come. The wild Man will join

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:22.799
<v Speaker 2>us and Andy Ferman next hour and at the top

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:24.879
<v Speaker 2>of this hour. I think it's important on election night

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 2>to have somebody who's actually been personally individually a candidate,

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 2>somebody who has skin in the game, Like we all

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 2>don't have skin, and we're supposed to all have skin

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:40.839
<v Speaker 2>in the game. That's why we vote and turn out,

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 2>if we actually vote and turn out. But as far

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 2>as candidates go, this guy, our next guest, has been

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 2>on both sides, the winning and the losing side. So

0:34:57.520 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 2>to get some perspective on what both of those things

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 2>are like an election night, let's talk to our friend

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Jim Renesi, who was a former congressman, businessman, and glad

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 2>to call him my friend, at least for the purposes

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:16.359
<v Speaker 2>for this conversation. Anyway, mister Reneesi, how are you tonight?

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:20.879
<v Speaker 7>I'm good, I think gary better question is how are

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:24.320
<v Speaker 7>we all tonight? As we see a lot of things

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 7>happening across this country which aren't good for Republicans, that's

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:28.720
<v Speaker 7>for sure.

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if they're not good for Republicans,

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:36.320
<v Speaker 2>I kind of tend to disagree with them being bad

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 2>for Republicans necessarily in the places where you expect Democrats

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 2>to prevail, and those places were all the signature races

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:54.719
<v Speaker 2>that turned out well for the Blue people. And so

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:59.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how necessarily damaging this is for Republicans.

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 2>You have a different opinion, obviously, tell me why it's

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 2>just terrible for Republicans that in blue states like New Jersey, Virginia,

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 2>and the bluest of the blue metropolis is New York City,

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:16.839
<v Speaker 2>that a Democrat or a Democrat socialist winning is necessarily

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 2>bad for the Republicans as a whole.

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 7>Well, see, I think those are the key races. But

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 7>I think if you look across the country, which I've

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 7>been trying to do, and even local races. I mean,

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 7>I'll give you example. In Wadsworth, Ohio, Yeah, the town

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 7>I live in, three Republicans were defeated by three Democrats

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 7>on city council. One Democrat nobody even knows who he is.

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 7>All he did was sign a petition never was seen.

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 7>So what that tells me on local elections, especially something

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 7>like that is people the Democrats were more engaged, Republicans

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 7>were more laxa daisical, which that's always what happens to

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 7>voter turnout is very low across the state of Ohio,

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 7>which is a whole other issue. And you know, I

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:10.399
<v Speaker 7>think Republican enthusiasm was missing. Yeah, these these Democrats were

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 7>expected to win, but the margins also were pretty strong.

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 7>I mean, fifty six to forty three on the Virginia

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 7>governor's race. And let's not forget that Virginia was a

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.359
<v Speaker 7>Republican governor. Yeah.

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 2>You know what's also curious to me is in the

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 2>polls previous two election day in Virginia, fifty seven percent

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 2>of those polled approved of Glenn Youngkin's job as governor.

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Virginia has you can only serve one term at a

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 2>time in the Commonwealth of Virginia. So he wasn't termed out,

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Younkin wasn't He just couldn't run again because he served

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 2>his term. I guess he could come back for another

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 2>bite at the apple in four years if that's what

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:58.360
<v Speaker 2>he wanted to do. But people were generally very happy

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:01.319
<v Speaker 2>with the job he was doing his governor, which that's

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 2>a curious thing to me.

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 7>Well exactly, and I think that's that's probably from a

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 7>national perspective, that's the one race that is probably more.

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 7>It should be more concerning for Republicans. But again, look

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 7>at the numbers. That's what's scary. The Virginia governor fifty

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 7>six forty two. I mean, these numbers, the lieutenant governor

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 7>fifty five forty four. These are not close races. And

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:34.439
<v Speaker 7>yeah they're blues, they're blue states, but they were blue

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 7>states with a red governor. So that's uh, that's that

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 7>should be concerning. And the attorney general, the Republican attorney

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 7>general who everybody said was doing well, Jason my h.

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Jason Myers lost to Jay Jones, a guy who, uh,

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:54.799
<v Speaker 2>in any kind of right thinking society, would have had

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 2>absolutely no shot to be the top law enforcement officer

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 2>in the state. After threatening or fantasizing about putting a

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:07.320
<v Speaker 2>bullet in the Republican Speaker of the House's head famously

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 2>or infamously, and watching fantasizing about watching his children die

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 2>in their mother's arms, and this guy got elected to

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:20.320
<v Speaker 2>the position. I find that just shocking.

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well, I think we're going to see that. I

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 7>do think there is a you know, it happens, it

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 7>always happens on the midterms after a Republican or Democrat

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 7>wins the presidency. I mean, Republicans have to get engaged.

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 7>I hope this is a wake up call. But like

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.240
<v Speaker 7>I said, I think what we're going to find across

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 7>the country is that we're going to see a little

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:52.920
<v Speaker 7>bit of a minor Democrat wave on the local races.

0:39:54.040 --> 0:40:00.040
<v Speaker 7>Even your even your Cincinnati mayor's race didn't appear to

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 7>be very close at all either. So again, you start

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 7>putting all these pieces together. Yes these are blue areas,

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 7>Yes these are blue counties, Yes these are blue states.

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 7>But you know, we've got we've got a Republican House,

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:19.760
<v Speaker 7>or Republican Senate, a Republican House of representative, Republican president.

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 7>You would think there'd be a little wind behind the

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 7>cells to at least keep these things a little closer,

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 7>and they weren't. So that's the concern I have. But

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 7>I really the big concern is turnout, turnout, turnout. I

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 7>think what we're going to find, you know, yeah, in

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 7>Ohio it's going to you know, four years ago it

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:47.320
<v Speaker 7>was a kneemic, and I think what we're going to

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 7>find in looking at these races, it's even worse. I mean,

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 7>turnout was up here in Northeast Ohio was about a

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 7>half of it was two of what it was two

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 7>years ago, and two years ago it was a name,

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 7>so people did not go out and vote. And when

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 7>that happens, whoever, who whatever team gets the most voters

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 7>out wins. And I think that's that's a little bit

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 7>of the concern I have as well.

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:14.919
<v Speaker 2>You say two years ago, but I mean last year.

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Obviously in the national election, we had major turnouts in

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati and many places around the country. But you can't

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 2>just turn out for the presidential elections. You have to

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 2>show up all the time. And you're right about the

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 2>apathy of Republicans seemingly dominating this particular particular off year election.

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 2>These are these aren't even the midterms, and like you said,

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:44.759
<v Speaker 2>maybe this is the wake up call so there's not

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:49.279
<v Speaker 2>a blue wave next November and everything switches over in

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 2>the House, in the Senate. I think that the Democrats

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 2>haven't done themselves any favor with this continuing government shutdown.

0:41:57.320 --> 0:42:02.800
<v Speaker 2>And you told me a month ago that or almost

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:05.760
<v Speaker 2>a month ago, that the Democrats were winning the messaging

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:09.600
<v Speaker 2>on the government shutdown. I don't believe that's the case certainly, now,

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:10.760
<v Speaker 2>do you still?

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:15.880
<v Speaker 7>All I can tell you is the polling still shows

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 7>a larger number blame the Republicans and Donald Trump. Then

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 7>they blamed Democrats. Now it's close, but it's you know,

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 7>it's like fifty five percent blame Republicans and Donald Trump

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:30.879
<v Speaker 7>and four forty three percent blame Democrats. So I think

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 7>in the end it's leaning more to blaming Republicans. But

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 7>here's what'll be interesting, and I've been saying this in

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 7>some of my other appearances on radio and even my commentary.

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 7>Today will mark the day that Republicans and Democrats come

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 7>back and they will reopen this government. My opinion is

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 7>very quickly. They wanted to see Many people wanted to

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 7>see what happened with these elections. But now that this

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:07.360
<v Speaker 7>election's over, there's not much to talk about except getting

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 7>back to work. And I'm hoping that we see an agreement.

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 7>I see Republicans and Democrats are working together in the Senate.

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 7>I'm hoping we can get this government open, because the

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 7>longer it stays close, I'm telling you, the people who

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 7>get the mass or the independence, and we did talk

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 7>about this and the Independence are blaming Republicans right now

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 7>more than they're blaming Democrats.

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm amazed that somebody who calls himself an independent is

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 2>that misinformed of facts? Because when you see the Democrats continuing,

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 2>people like Schumer continually time after time saying we can't

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:55.800
<v Speaker 2>shut the government down and then does it because he's

0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:58.439
<v Speaker 2>afraid he's going to get more flack that he got

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 2>last March when he agreed to keep the government open

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 2>from the far left wing of his party. And do

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:08.800
<v Speaker 2>you think that Mandani signals the fact that the Democrat

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Party is being taken over by Democrats socialists or communists.

0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Many people are pointing to that, and I think it's

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:19.760
<v Speaker 2>a real distinct possibility with the popularity of the squad

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.280
<v Speaker 2>and everything else that we've seen in the Democrat Party

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 2>over the last five to six years, maybe longer than that,

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.360
<v Speaker 2>that they lean continually more and more socialist.

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:35.400
<v Speaker 7>Well, I think that the polling that I've seen shows

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 7>that most people in New York City just wanted somebody different.

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:46.240
<v Speaker 7>He is definitely different. And I have also seen polling

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 7>across this country that shows most people want outsiders, somebody

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 7>that is not known. You know. He fit into that

0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:58.800
<v Speaker 7>category as well. So I think you're going to see

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:02.239
<v Speaker 7>more and more of that across the country. People are

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 7>fed up. I mean, let's face it, I think the

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 7>majority of Americans are fed up with their federal government,

0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 7>their state government, their city governments, and they're looking for

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 7>a fresh face, a new face, a likable face. And

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 7>he just seemed to fit the bill, even though he

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 7>is a Democrat socialist.

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:22.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, he is.

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 8>Well.

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you talk about controlling the means of production,

0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 2>that's communism, Jim, no matter what he calls himself, that

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 2>is flat out communism. I heard somebody else talking about

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 2>being in the old Soviet Union back when and drop

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Off was then the president of the USSR, who of

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 2>course was formerly with the KGB like Putin today, and

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:53.799
<v Speaker 2>talking about how the constant rationing because you know, it's

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:59.360
<v Speaker 2>a worker's paradise every you know, it was five cents

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 2>or whatever to to grab a ride on the metro

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:06.320
<v Speaker 2>in Moscow, but if you wanted a pair of shoes

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:09.360
<v Speaker 2>or clothes, they would do these big drop offs in

0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the marketplace, and there was no accounting

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:16.319
<v Speaker 2>for size, there was no selection. There was nothing that

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 2>we have in this country or in free trade or

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:24.680
<v Speaker 2>free enterprise capitalist countries where you have a selection of anything.

0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:27.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like ma'am Donnie's talking about these government

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 2>grocery stores in New York City and everywhere those have

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 2>been in the United States have failed miserably. But people

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 2>just here free and they think that that's freedom. And

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 2>that's I think a part of the education that needs

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:44.520
<v Speaker 2>to go on for the electorate in this country to

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:49.400
<v Speaker 2>make especially younger voters a gen Z voters, understanding that

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:53.760
<v Speaker 2>free stuff is not freedom. There is a distinct difference,

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:54.719
<v Speaker 2>don't you think.

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 7>Well, absolutely, and you and I can agree on that

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:01.239
<v Speaker 7>all we want. The problem is is you just said

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 7>that the gen Z's don't see it that way. They

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:06.959
<v Speaker 7>don't see the opportunity for the American dream. They don't

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:13.239
<v Speaker 7>see this quick road to success. And of course their

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:15.400
<v Speaker 7>roads to success normally is they want to do it

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 7>in two or three years. I kind of wish I

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:19.400
<v Speaker 7>could have done it in two or three years, but

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:23.399
<v Speaker 7>it just didn't work out that way. But in the end,

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:26.920
<v Speaker 7>I think we're all going to learn some lessons and

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:29.520
<v Speaker 7>there will be ups and downs, and you know, it's

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:33.440
<v Speaker 7>the cycles of elections that we seem to continue to

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:36.799
<v Speaker 7>have the only thing that concerns me more. And by

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 7>the way, I do believe that happened tonight across the country.

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:43.359
<v Speaker 7>I think there was a lot more younger voters got

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:45.879
<v Speaker 7>out and voted as well. You've got to remember many

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 7>of those voted for Donald Trump. So lots of things

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:52.000
<v Speaker 7>to look at. Even though this is not a midterm election,

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 7>that should give pause to Republicans and again we should

0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 7>have learned from it, uh one year to get prepared

0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:03.800
<v Speaker 7>for the midterms.

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 2>In New York City and many other of these Democrat enclaves. Jim,

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to show an ID to vote. Oh yeah, no,

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I agree, and you know that that's something that needs

0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:17.840
<v Speaker 2>to be corrected on a national scale.

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 7>Somehow, New York has is a world in itself, and

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 7>let's face it, they have not had the most conservative

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:30.480
<v Speaker 7>Republican mayors. Of course, this is an extreme one here,

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 7>but it's one of the reasons why corporate America quite frankly,

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 7>has moved out of New York and New York City.

0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 7>And I think what we're finding is Dallas, Texas is

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:47.320
<v Speaker 7>becoming the new capital of uh, you know, marketplace and

0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:52.640
<v Speaker 7>world in New York and I'm sorry, United States businesses

0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:55.960
<v Speaker 7>or moving to Dallas, Texas, so we may see more

0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:56.600
<v Speaker 7>of that as well.

0:48:57.120 --> 0:48:59.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh, and if you were in New York, wouldn't would

0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:01.040
<v Speaker 2>you want to have keep your business there?

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:05.319
<v Speaker 7>No, I'd rather go to Dallas. And I think that's

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 7>As I travel to Dallas, I find that Dallas is

0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:12.399
<v Speaker 7>more of the business capital of the United States now,

0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 7>and I think a lot of it is because of

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:18.160
<v Speaker 7>who they are electing in New York City. But again,

0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:20.359
<v Speaker 7>I see this as a little bit of a wake

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:25.400
<v Speaker 7>up call. I hope Republicans realize that they cannot be anemic.

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:27.839
<v Speaker 7>They have to get out and vote. I don't think

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 7>it would have changed things in New York City, but

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 7>I'm telling you of the other states, I think it

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:34.759
<v Speaker 7>would have been a little bit closer than it ended

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:35.280
<v Speaker 7>up being.

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 2>All Right, Jim Ornecy, thank you so much for your time.

0:49:37.719 --> 0:49:41.600
<v Speaker 2>As always, my friend, and I really do appreciate you

0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:42.400
<v Speaker 2>being on with me.

0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 7>Oh problem, Thank you you having good evening.

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Hey you two sir.

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:49.759
<v Speaker 2>After the news break, we'll have open phones, and I

0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 2>have some thoughts about stuff that's more important than elections.

0:49:54.400 --> 0:49:58.879
<v Speaker 2>Phone lines open on this Tuesday evening nightcap on election day,

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Gary jeffwin by one three seven, four nine hundred d

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Big one numbers haven't changed the callers have over the years.

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 3>I remember a time.

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:17.839
<v Speaker 2>When if you took a call, somebody was number one

0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 2>ready to go on the air because they had something

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:21.439
<v Speaker 2>to say.

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 3>They thought it was important that.

0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:27.400
<v Speaker 2>They had their voice heard, either agreeing with the host

0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:30.319
<v Speaker 2>or disagreeing with the host, or just maybe something else

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:35.240
<v Speaker 2>they wanted to interject. And I would welcome any of those.

0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:40.960
<v Speaker 2>But today we have callers like Frank. I don't know Frank.

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Frank's said he was from Western Hills, and you never know.

0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:50.320
<v Speaker 2>But Frank didn't want to go on the air, which

0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:54.279
<v Speaker 2>is kind of curious. Why would he call the line

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:56.799
<v Speaker 2>if you don't want to go on the air. That's

0:50:56.840 --> 0:51:00.840
<v Speaker 2>the whole point of having a talk line. So the

0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 2>forum is open for you so you can express something

0:51:05.040 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 2>that you think is in put. You're listening and you

0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:11.680
<v Speaker 2>want to participate. You want to add your voice to

0:51:11.760 --> 0:51:18.040
<v Speaker 2>the chorus or to the descent. No, Frank, and that's fine.

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:19.880
<v Speaker 2>If you don't want to go on the air, they

0:51:20.080 --> 0:51:23.279
<v Speaker 2>don't call. But he did have a question for me,

0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:26.080
<v Speaker 2>and I guess I'll address it. Since Frank didn't stay

0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:27.680
<v Speaker 2>on the line and didn't want to go on the air,

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:32.759
<v Speaker 2>what will New York city be like under Muslim law

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:38.280
<v Speaker 2>or Sharia law. Well, that's certainly not anything ma'am Donnie

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:43.640
<v Speaker 2>has directly said, because that would scare the bejeebers out

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:48.359
<v Speaker 2>of people, even in New York City, if they thought

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:52.880
<v Speaker 2>there was a possibility, If you thought there was a

0:51:52.960 --> 0:52:01.719
<v Speaker 2>possibility of Sharia law being implemented in our biggest city. Amazing,

0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:08.160
<v Speaker 2>But I guess anything is possible when you have a

0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Democrat socialist who was not born in this country, who

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:16.239
<v Speaker 2>is Islamic, and you wonder about those big enclaves of

0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:19.919
<v Speaker 2>Islamic populations elsewhere in the United States. And of course

0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:24.400
<v Speaker 2>it's happened in other countries. It's happened in London, England,

0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:29.919
<v Speaker 2>It's happened other places that you normally would not think

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:36.920
<v Speaker 2>would be subject to Sharia law necessarily. But we live

0:52:36.960 --> 0:52:39.560
<v Speaker 2>in a country that is ruled I thought, by the

0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:47.360
<v Speaker 2>rule of law, i e. The Constitution of the United States,

0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:55.160
<v Speaker 2>not Islam or you know where there are honor killings. Well,

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:58.400
<v Speaker 2>I tell you what. The Queers for Palestine movement during

0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:01.440
<v Speaker 2>all of that Rigamaro and colleges across the country, the

0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 2>anti Semitic protest, the Queers for Palestine always amazed me,

0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 2>because if the Queers were in Palestine, they wouldn't be

0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:15.520
<v Speaker 2>living long. Don in Newport is on the line, Don, Hello,

0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:16.840
<v Speaker 2>how are you this evening?

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:18.279
<v Speaker 3>That good?

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:18.959
<v Speaker 8>I like that?

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:26.640
<v Speaker 10>That was awesome. So yeah, Gary, I just can't believe

0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:33.000
<v Speaker 10>live on the in Newport, very close Cincinnati, and we

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:36.160
<v Speaker 10>like to go to the family markets, you know, on Sundays.

0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I was there.

0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:38.879
<v Speaker 8>There are a lot of.

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:42.520
<v Speaker 10>Bears fans there that were that were there, and I

0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:44.400
<v Speaker 10>think I don't think I was home for more than

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:47.120
<v Speaker 10>a few hours. And I think four people shot or

0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:50.880
<v Speaker 10>four different shootings right right in there. Didn't that happen

0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:51.600
<v Speaker 10>like last Sunday?

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what, that that'll make somebody from Chicago,

0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I guess feel right at home.

0:53:56.600 --> 0:53:57.919
<v Speaker 7>Well that's true, that's true.

0:53:58.239 --> 0:54:00.799
<v Speaker 10>Maybe maybe they maybe they brought they brought it with him.

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:05.799
<v Speaker 10>But I mean, it's just how can you possibly explain,

0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:14.680
<v Speaker 10>help me understand how it's possible that people living in

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:18.880
<v Speaker 10>Cincinnati can think that this is okay?

0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, what's amazing for me, Don, is that right across

0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:27.439
<v Speaker 2>that little expanse of river things, it's it's a night

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:34.040
<v Speaker 2>and day difference. In northern Kentucky for the most part.

0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:34.040
<v Speaker 10>Rob Sanders was you know, I listened to him with

0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:36.840
<v Speaker 10>Willie all the time. Yeah, it's a different It's like

0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:42.800
<v Speaker 10>it's like two different country, you know, North Korea, South Korea.

0:54:42.920 --> 0:54:44.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it really is. It's amazing.

0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Don in that short short period of time, you just

0:54:48.280 --> 0:54:50.360
<v Speaker 2>go across the bridge and it's like you're in a

0:54:50.400 --> 0:54:52.200
<v Speaker 2>different country almost.

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:58.080
<v Speaker 10>Well, you know they were, they were so offended and

0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:00.920
<v Speaker 10>just taking it back. They I couldn't believe that when

0:55:00.920 --> 0:55:05.279
<v Speaker 10>the people stormed the suspension bridge and blocked traffic, the

0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:10.000
<v Speaker 10>officers actually did what they're supposed to do. Yes, I know,

0:55:10.320 --> 0:55:12.360
<v Speaker 10>you know they I mean they beat it, you know

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:15.040
<v Speaker 10>they it looked like it looked like something if you

0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:17.960
<v Speaker 10>were to see it on tape. Hey, that's police brutality,

0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 10>you know, like in Cincinnati, probably the cops would be

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:25.520
<v Speaker 10>going to jail instead of the people that were causing

0:55:25.520 --> 0:55:25.960
<v Speaker 10>the problem.

0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, and as Rob Sanders said in the aftermath of that,

0:55:29.560 --> 0:55:32.400
<v Speaker 2>done keep that on the north side of the river.

0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:34.240
<v Speaker 3>Right right.

0:55:36.480 --> 0:55:37.960
<v Speaker 10>It's just hard to believe.

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:41.040
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you something. I moved to Cincinnati in nineteen

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:45.279
<v Speaker 2>ninety four and moved up from Middle Tennessee in the

0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:48.680
<v Speaker 2>early nineties. Moved from Cincinnati in nineteen ninety four, and

0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:51.600
<v Speaker 2>then I moved across the river. I lived in Cincinnati

0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:53.960
<v Speaker 2>for six years. I moved across the river to Newport

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:57.760
<v Speaker 2>in March of two thousand and I've never looked back,

0:55:58.400 --> 0:56:03.360
<v Speaker 2>and I was just amazed then at the change over,

0:56:03.560 --> 0:56:07.240
<v Speaker 2>just you know, a quarter of a mile across that

0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:10.600
<v Speaker 2>that span of water, and it was amazing to me.

0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:12.680
<v Speaker 3>I instantly felt at home.

0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:19.080
<v Speaker 2>I felt more safe, I felt more welcome, and and

0:56:19.160 --> 0:56:23.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm in basically I'm in the same city, but I'm not. Uh,

0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:27.319
<v Speaker 2>listen and enjoy enjoy your trips to Finley. I hope

0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:31.000
<v Speaker 2>you still can, and I hope you and your wife

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:34.120
<v Speaker 2>and others are safe when they come over to downtown Cincinnati.

0:56:34.760 --> 0:56:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I generally am not doing anything in Cincinnati, but driving

0:56:39.080 --> 0:56:41.759
<v Speaker 2>through it up to Kenwood, that's just me.

0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:47.160
<v Speaker 10>Well, well it's you know insandly I think it's gonna

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:50.160
<v Speaker 10>be one by one again where the you know, the

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:52.960
<v Speaker 10>businesses leave. I I do a little bit of a

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:57.520
<v Speaker 10>screen printing and laser engraving with some hats and I had,

0:56:58.320 --> 0:57:02.000
<v Speaker 10>you know, make Cincinnati safe again with the skyline in

0:57:02.040 --> 0:57:04.800
<v Speaker 10>the back and makes it say great again, because really,

0:57:04.920 --> 0:57:06.160
<v Speaker 10>there was a time when it was.

0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:10.000
<v Speaker 8>I mean, look back to Charlie lucandas.

0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:11.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, it it is such.

0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:16.680
<v Speaker 2>It's full of really wonderful people overall, and and it

0:57:16.720 --> 0:57:21.439
<v Speaker 2>has so much to offer. It's it's sad that it's

0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:24.440
<v Speaker 2>being so poorly mismanaged in my opinion. Thanks for the

0:57:24.520 --> 0:57:28.800
<v Speaker 2>phone call. Don go to jam and Amelia Amelia. Does

0:57:28.840 --> 0:57:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Amelia actually exist?

0:57:30.360 --> 0:57:32.560
<v Speaker 8>Jim?

0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:35.960
<v Speaker 11>Well, the village doesn't, but Amelia does.

0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:42.120
<v Speaker 2>In your heart, Amelia exists anyway. What's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 3>Jim?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, first of all, you know, I voted an Amelia

0:57:48.640 --> 0:57:52.280
<v Speaker 11>for this for the cops and the mts in the

0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:55.720
<v Speaker 11>mental health thing, and I think that was a good thing. Well,

0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:58.880
<v Speaker 11>what I want to know is, like from the left

0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:03.280
<v Speaker 11>and the right, who decided that you have to put

0:58:03.280 --> 0:58:07.200
<v Speaker 11>your headphones on the left side or the right side?

0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:11.160
<v Speaker 11>Can you reverse your headphones? So it sounds really good

0:58:11.200 --> 0:58:14.120
<v Speaker 11>if you reverse right and left. You know what I'm saying.

0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:18.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm not quite sure I do understand what you're saying,

0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:22.920
<v Speaker 2>but please continue. It's interesting at least even if I

0:58:22.920 --> 0:58:25.720
<v Speaker 2>don't understand what you're saying. So you're telling me that

0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:29.280
<v Speaker 2>I can take my headphones off and flip them over

0:58:29.320 --> 0:58:31.600
<v Speaker 2>to the other side, and it's going to be just

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<v Speaker 2>the same.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I think it does, because, like I don't understand

0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:40.360
<v Speaker 11>who decided that my headphones had to be on the

0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:43.880
<v Speaker 11>left side on the right side. Why can't I reverse them?

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<v Speaker 11>I don't understand that. Who decided?

0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:47.520
<v Speaker 3>You know what?

0:58:47.760 --> 0:58:51.640
<v Speaker 2>You know what, Jim, I think you do what you

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:54.160
<v Speaker 2>want to do in the privacy of your own home.

0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:59.000
<v Speaker 2>If they're your headphones and you're you're listening to your

0:58:59.080 --> 0:59:04.160
<v Speaker 2>headphones by yourself, you you do whatever you want to do.

0:59:05.280 --> 0:59:07.240
<v Speaker 11>Okay, I just I just didn't know if you knew

0:59:07.280 --> 0:59:10.320
<v Speaker 11>who told you know you're going to put it on

0:59:10.360 --> 0:59:12.560
<v Speaker 11>the left side on the right side. I don't I

0:59:12.600 --> 0:59:13.200
<v Speaker 11>don't get that.

0:59:14.440 --> 0:59:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Did it make a difference, Well, there is a left

0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:20.080
<v Speaker 2>channel and there is a right channel. If you're listening

0:59:20.160 --> 0:59:23.200
<v Speaker 2>to something in stereo, if you're listening in mono, it

0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:28.000
<v Speaker 2>makes absolutely no difference. Jim, thank you for calling, Raphael

0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:32.160
<v Speaker 2>and bond Hill. Good evening, sir, Good evening, Gary.

0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:33.480
<v Speaker 7>Jim.

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<v Speaker 6>A few moments ago, I think you were talking about

0:59:37.000 --> 0:59:40.640
<v Speaker 6>Mondamine up there in New York in the election. You

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<v Speaker 6>mentioned some things about sharia law that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Actually another listener had asked what New York City

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be like under sharia law.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, well, and I heard that, Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's the only thing.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, that is not it shouldn't be possible in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States of America because we're all under constitutional law,

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<v Speaker 2>not sharia law.

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<v Speaker 6>Now does that And that's what I was going to

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<v Speaker 6>chime in on specifically. And in the United States, the

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<v Speaker 6>Constitution is that the end all be all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it is. It's the law of the land.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what sets us apart from other countries that have

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<v Speaker 2>constitutions in paper, but they don't mean anything from one

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<v Speaker 2>regime change to the next. In our country, we're consistently

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<v Speaker 2>under the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was written not for groups of people, but for the individual.

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<v Speaker 6>And does that Constitution apply to someone in the White

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<v Speaker 6>House blowing up fishing boats off the coast of Venezuela

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<v Speaker 6>without notifying Congress of that actions, or providing proof to

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<v Speaker 6>good old Americans like you and.

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<v Speaker 2>I, or sending missiles and bombs as President Obama did

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<v Speaker 2>and President Biden have to other foreign countries without permission

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<v Speaker 2>from Congress. The president does have certain executive authority powers

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<v Speaker 2>that do include occasionally and sad as it has to

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<v Speaker 2>be the case of taking care of threats to the

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<v Speaker 2>United States of America. That is his, that is his

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<v Speaker 2>his charge, his commander in chief. Sometimes you take you

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<v Speaker 2>that's not an active war necessarily, it's an act of

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<v Speaker 2>protective safety for a country. If he, if the president

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<v Speaker 2>or the commander in chief believes that those drug boats

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<v Speaker 2>are an immediate threat to the United States, Yes, he

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<v Speaker 2>does have that power.

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<v Speaker 6>How many of those boats have reached the United States

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<v Speaker 6>prior to being blown up?

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea, hopefully none.

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<v Speaker 6>Should he should he have ideal and present it to

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<v Speaker 6>American people.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think would be a fantastic thing if the

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<v Speaker 2>American people were all together and the Congress actually wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>so divided that they would uh, they would agree with

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<v Speaker 2>the commander in chief that those things are a threat,

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<v Speaker 2>those emanating from Venezuela and Colombia, the drug cartels are

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<v Speaker 2>a h what is it? An immediate and a clear

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<v Speaker 2>and present danger to the country. I wish Congress would

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<v Speaker 2>get on board. Yeah, sure, it'd be great.

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<v Speaker 6>It would be amazing if that clear and imminent, immediate

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<v Speaker 6>danger would be Hey, if he believes, isn't it so much.

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<v Speaker 7>Just present your evidence.

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<v Speaker 6>But then again, I'm just gonna call BF owner Jerry Garrett, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 6>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and and and you're entitled to your opinion. I

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<v Speaker 2>gave you mine, right and I think and and not

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<v Speaker 2>everything I don't rubber stamp is as good everything this

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<v Speaker 2>president or any president does, Raphael, I will differ with

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<v Speaker 2>them on policy issues right and left, but I happen

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<v Speaker 2>to agree that the threat of fentanyl and the drug

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<v Speaker 2>cartels that have been controlling these other countries and have

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<v Speaker 2>thought that they had control of our border, which they

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<v Speaker 2>did under four years of Joe Biden, It's time that

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<v Speaker 2>they learn a lesson. They're not in control of our border.

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<v Speaker 2>We are not Mexico or Venezuela or anybody else.

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<v Speaker 6>Well that fentanyl. Is it true that more final comes

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<v Speaker 6>across the border.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Canada and they are interdicting that too.

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<v Speaker 2>They just haven't had to blow up any they haven't

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<v Speaker 2>had to blow up any dog sleds.

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<v Speaker 6>Yet, right there, right And in China, you know, we

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<v Speaker 6>hear talk about China and the fittanaff. I guess with

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<v Speaker 6>the knife hand in hand relationship with President Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 6>President g I guess that Pittona thing kind of just

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<v Speaker 6>in the Chinese that goes on excuse I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>It absolutely was not excused, and it absolutely was talked

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<v Speaker 2>about in the latest summit in South Korea.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently you didn't hear that part what.

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<v Speaker 6>Was said during that summit about fantanaff.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I wasn't there, but I know that everyone who

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<v Speaker 2>was said that fentanyl was addressed with g when President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump met with him.

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<v Speaker 6>And should the American people be made privy of what

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<v Speaker 6>was talked about in specifics, maybe about fentanyl since it's

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<v Speaker 6>killing so me Americans from China.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what, I don't think that the president

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<v Speaker 2>has the has the the charge of telling everything that

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<v Speaker 2>he taught talks about to world leaders, to the public

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<v Speaker 2>at large, or to our.

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<v Speaker 3>Enemies or to the press. Raphael.

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<v Speaker 2>There are certain things that, yeah, we don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>know at the time. I appreciate your phone call, and

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<v Speaker 2>I see where you're coming from. I don't believe that

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump has to tell you everything he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>do before he does it. I think that's been done

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<v Speaker 2>way too often in American diplomacy with our enemies and

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<v Speaker 2>our foes around the world and our friends. Even now

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<v Speaker 2>is there somebody else that wants to get in real quick?

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<v Speaker 2>Nick on the West side, we're running out of time

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<v Speaker 2>in this half hour. I will tell you this. The

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<v Speaker 2>election in Cincinnati is over. The races in Virginia, New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 2>and New York City have been called. If you're a

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<v Speaker 2>Republican or you care about things from a conservative point

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<v Speaker 2>of view, not a good night, no question about that.

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<v Speaker 3>But these are isolated cases.

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<v Speaker 2>The most important thing you can do as a citizen

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<v Speaker 2>of this country, and when you have the opportunity to do,

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<v Speaker 2>is let your voice be heard. Whether you agree with

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<v Speaker 2>the current administration or disagree with the current administration, whether

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<v Speaker 2>you want change or you want the status quo. When

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<v Speaker 2>you have the opportunity, you've got to go out and

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<v Speaker 2>vote and let your voice be heard. Whether you're me

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<v Speaker 2>or Raphael or Jim from Amelia who can't decide which

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<v Speaker 2>side of the headphones he's going to listen on. When

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<v Speaker 2>you have the chance to let your voice be heard,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to shout it from the rooftops. Because we

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<v Speaker 2>have that ability in this country. A lot of other

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<v Speaker 2>places like Venezuela or Cuba or Communist China, they don't.

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<v Speaker 3>We do. We're so blessed by God.

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<v Speaker 2>The wild Man on the other side of news eleven

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock and the four ball will join us before we're

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<v Speaker 2>done tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for tuning in.

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<v Speaker 2>And tune yet another hour of his Election Night Night

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<v Speaker 2>tab Gary Jeff Walker's we get into the dregs of

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<v Speaker 2>the jay into our final hour. I thought we would

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<v Speaker 2>take a break from some of the election coverage because

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<v Speaker 2>everything is all but decided. News will keep you update

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<v Speaker 2>on any last second results that we get. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>a huge news day obviously, with the ups plane crash

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<v Speaker 2>in Louisville. Three dead, they are eleven injured, and just

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<v Speaker 2>a fiery ball of well you probably have seen it

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<v Speaker 2>by now. I was shocked, as most people were, as

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<v Speaker 2>the plane didn't even make it off the runway in

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville at Maammad Ali International. And then of course elections

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<v Speaker 2>around the country including Virginia, New Jersey, New York City

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<v Speaker 2>which is now a full blown communist state, and the

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<v Speaker 2>city of Cincinnati probably not too far behind. But with

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<v Speaker 2>that being said, how about an hour of sports for

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<v Speaker 2>the out of sorts?

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<v Speaker 3>And this guy is always.

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<v Speaker 2>Ready to sort out how out of sorts he really

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<v Speaker 2>is about any number of topics we bring back in

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<v Speaker 2>the sports commando the one and only wild Man Walker.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, wild Man, how are you?

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<v Speaker 12>I'm doing good, Gary, Jeff. I did my part today

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<v Speaker 12>as a outstanding citizen and voted.

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<v Speaker 3>See, I didn't know you lived.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know you lived in the city of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you lived over on the east side, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>in Andrewson or side.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I lived technically right on the verge you know,

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<v Speaker 12>of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 3>So yes, So did you vote? I legally? Then vote?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you vote legally?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm voted legally. Vote legal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's supposed to be a private, a secret ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>But who'd you vote for for mayor?

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<v Speaker 12>I'm not going to tell you, But do you think

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<v Speaker 12>I would vote for mayor? Who would you think I

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<v Speaker 12>would vote for mayor? Well, my guests, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>My guests would be probably not have to have pr vall.

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<v Speaker 3>My guest would be got that.

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<v Speaker 12>Talk about it clueless. We out a touch persons.

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<v Speaker 2>As opposed to a son of God and a pastor

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<v Speaker 2>named Corey Bowman, who I have supported the entire time.

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<v Speaker 2>That the thing is, if the city of Cincinnati cannot

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<v Speaker 2>turn out in an so called off your election for

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<v Speaker 2>the most important position in the city of Cincinnati, the mayor.

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<v Speaker 2>When public safety is the primary issue along a course

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<v Speaker 2>with public services and protecting people, If they cannot understand

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<v Speaker 2>that it's time for a change, then I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what what's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>I just threw up my hands.

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<v Speaker 12>I threw up my hands, and they, like you just said,

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<v Speaker 12>they don't understand it's time for a change or something wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, how dumb can you be? How dumb can

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<v Speaker 3>you be?

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<v Speaker 8>You know?

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<v Speaker 7>Move on?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, let's move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about some sports stuff here in our last

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<v Speaker 2>hour tonight, wild Man first and foremost, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>get your take on the World Series just concluded this

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<v Speaker 2>past weekend. Of course, been a few days now that

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<v Speaker 2>had the parade in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess yesterday, Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The victory parade and Magic Johnson's happy. The Dodgers again,

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<v Speaker 2>literally the best team money can buy, have purchased themselves

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<v Speaker 2>another World Series. Your thoughts as you look back on

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<v Speaker 2>a seven game classic.

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<v Speaker 12>It was a great World Series Game six and seven

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<v Speaker 12>or one for the ages. The Blue Jays have nothing

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<v Speaker 12>to be ashamed of. In fact, they're probably kicking themselves

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<v Speaker 12>as they had a number of opportunities to win the

1:10:57.560 --> 1:11:00.799
<v Speaker 12>World Series at play at home, where we'll Smith barely

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<v Speaker 12>got his foot on the home on the plate when

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<v Speaker 12>the runner was coming home.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, you look at that, go back and

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<v Speaker 3>look at it.

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<v Speaker 12>If the guy would have had a better lead off

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<v Speaker 12>third base, which I still don't understand, bad fundamentals right there,

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<v Speaker 12>the Blue Jays would be celebrating to our third World

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<v Speaker 12>Series title. Well, then let's give it Dodgers. Let's give

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<v Speaker 12>it to him man, Dave Roberts. He made some great

1:11:21.080 --> 1:11:23.560
<v Speaker 12>moves there. He put that out outfielder out in the

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<v Speaker 12>centerfield pass past guy. I think at this tampascas something

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<v Speaker 12>like that pet. They also brought in Ya Momoto.

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<v Speaker 3>You know the pitch. I mean, he made some great moves.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and you know, y'a Momoto's pitching on twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>not even twenty four hours, rest.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right, pitching another classic in Game six. It was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was amazing, And there were two incredible plays at

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<v Speaker 2>the plate by both teams in that last inning. I

1:11:51.720 --> 1:11:54.680
<v Speaker 2>mean it was I couldn't believe, I said, didn't I

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<v Speaker 2>just see this last inning?

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<v Speaker 3>It happened to go what the hell?

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<v Speaker 12>But the but the one for the Blue Jays, and

1:12:01.000 --> 1:12:02.880
<v Speaker 12>the guy had a better leadoff third base because the

1:12:02.880 --> 1:12:05.160
<v Speaker 12>third base wasn't guard named. If you go back and

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<v Speaker 12>look at the film, he would have scored, he would

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<v Speaker 12>have scored in the series, would have been and would

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<v Speaker 12>have went to the Blue Jays.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was a great World Series.

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<v Speaker 2>It really was, no really, And it's the first time

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<v Speaker 2>that I have actually watched and cared about a World

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<v Speaker 2>Series in quite some time. And I wasn't disappointed on

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday night. I was maybe disappointed by the ultimate outcome,

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<v Speaker 2>but I wasn't disappointed with the entertainment value and the

1:12:31.320 --> 1:12:34.200
<v Speaker 2>quality of play because it was top notchi. It was

1:12:34.280 --> 1:12:37.680
<v Speaker 2>deserving of the last game of the season, there's no

1:12:37.800 --> 1:12:38.640
<v Speaker 2>question about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 12>The only thing that disappointed me with the Dodgers winning

1:12:41.640 --> 1:12:44.920
<v Speaker 12>the World Series. They finally broke the street that the

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<v Speaker 12>Reds had being the last National League team that went

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<v Speaker 12>back to back World Series in seventy five and seventy six.

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<v Speaker 12>Before that, it was the twenty one to twenty two

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<v Speaker 12>New York Giants, so that record had stood for a

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<v Speaker 12>long time. Now the Dodgers have that record. I mean,

1:12:58.160 --> 1:13:00.519
<v Speaker 12>they kept talking about it hadn't been done ten years.

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<v Speaker 12>But if you go back to the National League and

1:13:02.360 --> 1:13:04.960
<v Speaker 12>been done in seventy five seventy six, and that was

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<v Speaker 12>the Reds.

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<v Speaker 2>What about Terry Francona getting some postseason nods?

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<v Speaker 3>Is you know?

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<v Speaker 12>I like he has no chance. That goes to Pat Murphy.

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<v Speaker 12>Pat Murphy hands down, Pat Murphy hands down.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, But I mean it's still it's nice. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 12>The Brewers aren't messing around either, Gary jem I'll tell

1:13:20.680 --> 1:13:24.040
<v Speaker 12>you right now. They've already said bye bye to Wilson Contreras,

1:13:24.200 --> 1:13:26.720
<v Speaker 12>They've already said bye bye to Rhys Hoskins, and they've

1:13:26.720 --> 1:13:29.240
<v Speaker 12>also said bye bye to Gwincna, the pitcher. So they

1:13:29.320 --> 1:13:31.840
<v Speaker 12>got something going on. They got something going on up

1:13:31.880 --> 1:13:35.400
<v Speaker 12>their sleeve that they're preparing for this season. They just

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<v Speaker 12>slash some big time payroll there.

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<v Speaker 2>Do the Reds have anything up their sleeves? Wild Man,

1:13:40.400 --> 1:13:41.440
<v Speaker 2>that's the question.

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<v Speaker 7>As of right now.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't think they're going to go out and spend

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<v Speaker 12>spend any big money, No doubt it.

1:13:47.120 --> 1:13:47.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people have said this to me, and

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

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<v Speaker 12>I think the Reds out of trade Hunter Green his

1:13:53.800 --> 1:13:56.080
<v Speaker 12>value has never been better. Hunter Green's never going to

1:13:56.160 --> 1:13:58.400
<v Speaker 12>pitch a full season for us. Let's be honest with you.

1:13:58.520 --> 1:14:00.960
<v Speaker 3>He hasn't yet and if he hasn't, he's not going to.

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<v Speaker 12>But he would even bring the red something in value

1:14:04.040 --> 1:14:07.280
<v Speaker 12>they have because they've got plenty of pitching now. The

1:14:07.360 --> 1:14:10.120
<v Speaker 12>Reds are stepped, were stacked with starting pitching, and I

1:14:10.200 --> 1:14:12.920
<v Speaker 12>would dangle out there, Hunter Green and see what they

1:14:12.920 --> 1:14:16.280
<v Speaker 12>could possibly get. Well, here's here's a question. Let's switch sports,

1:14:16.280 --> 1:14:16.880
<v Speaker 12>wild man.

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<v Speaker 2>Do the Bengals ever get another full season out of

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow at quarterback?

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people have questioned this.

1:14:25.520 --> 1:14:27.840
<v Speaker 12>Well, you know, Joe's had every injury known the man.

1:14:28.120 --> 1:14:30.280
<v Speaker 12>I mean, that's just that he's just unfortunate. I mean,

1:14:30.320 --> 1:14:32.439
<v Speaker 12>he didn't have any of those injuries in college. But

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<v Speaker 12>a lot of goes back to the to the old

1:14:34.680 --> 1:14:37.439
<v Speaker 12>line not protecting them. I mean, Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow

1:14:37.560 --> 1:14:39.920
<v Speaker 12>is gonna play, and he's gonna play next year.

1:14:39.920 --> 1:14:41.719
<v Speaker 3>He's not gonna play this year again.

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<v Speaker 12>For the one million time, Garry Jeff, anybody thinks that

1:14:44.760 --> 1:14:47.120
<v Speaker 12>Joe Burrow's gonna take a snap the rest of the

1:14:47.160 --> 1:14:49.920
<v Speaker 12>season with this lost season or out of their mind,

1:14:50.520 --> 1:14:51.040
<v Speaker 12>a turn too.

1:14:51.160 --> 1:14:52.559
<v Speaker 3>Injury takes a year to rehab.

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<v Speaker 12>If you don't believe me, go call Deon Sanders and

1:14:55.640 --> 1:14:59.160
<v Speaker 12>ask him he had to retire early. He had a

1:14:59.160 --> 1:15:02.479
<v Speaker 12>great career to retire early because of a turf toe injury.

1:15:02.600 --> 1:15:04.599
<v Speaker 12>Joe is not taking a snap the rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 12>And if you want to talk about the Bengals, Okay,

1:15:06.800 --> 1:15:09.600
<v Speaker 12>they traded. They traded Logan Wilson, a linebacker. Would they

1:15:09.680 --> 1:15:12.679
<v Speaker 12>get a seventh round draft pickles? They didn't get nothing.

1:15:12.720 --> 1:15:15.280
<v Speaker 12>They really didn't get nothing. And Logan Wilson had fell

1:15:15.280 --> 1:15:17.879
<v Speaker 12>out of favor with the with Al Golden and their

1:15:17.920 --> 1:15:20.840
<v Speaker 12>defensive scheme, and that that's why that's.

1:15:20.760 --> 1:15:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Why he wasn't That's why he wasn't playing. Trey Hendrickson

1:15:23.479 --> 1:15:26.840
<v Speaker 2>is exactly. Trey Hendrickson isn't going anywhere. Were you surprised

1:15:26.840 --> 1:15:29.200
<v Speaker 2>about that? I mean, they could have maybe gotten something

1:15:29.240 --> 1:15:29.679
<v Speaker 2>for Trey.

1:15:30.960 --> 1:15:32.800
<v Speaker 12>They maybe they could have got something for Tray, but

1:15:32.840 --> 1:15:34.800
<v Speaker 12>I think they're they asking price is too high.

1:15:35.240 --> 1:15:36.760
<v Speaker 3>I think they asking price is too high.

1:15:36.760 --> 1:15:39.760
<v Speaker 12>And even if if he won't be here next year,

1:15:39.960 --> 1:15:41.600
<v Speaker 12>but they'll get the draft pick for him, they be

1:15:41.640 --> 1:15:44.240
<v Speaker 12>signed with somebody. So that's why they're holding that card back.

1:15:44.520 --> 1:15:49.759
<v Speaker 12>They won't franchise tag him. No, they won't franchise tag him. No, No,

1:15:50.120 --> 1:15:51.880
<v Speaker 12>I'd be very surprised, all right.

1:15:52.000 --> 1:15:56.320
<v Speaker 2>So somebody sent me this on AX after Sunday's meltdown,

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<v Speaker 2>a second melttown in a row where the Bengals should

1:15:58.680 --> 1:15:59.360
<v Speaker 2>have won a game.

1:16:00.320 --> 1:16:04.880
<v Speaker 3>And here it was the post on X from a friend. Today.

1:16:04.880 --> 1:16:08.400
<v Speaker 2>The Bengals had kick off return for a touchdown, a block,

1:16:08.439 --> 1:16:12.240
<v Speaker 2>field goal on sidekick recovery, five hundred yards of offense,

1:16:12.280 --> 1:16:15.719
<v Speaker 2>two wide receivers with one hundred plus yards, fifteen points

1:16:15.720 --> 1:16:18.719
<v Speaker 2>scored in less than a minute, forty two total points

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<v Speaker 2>scored and lost.

1:16:20.840 --> 1:16:22.880
<v Speaker 3>How does that happen? Well?

1:16:23.040 --> 1:16:25.439
<v Speaker 12>What about the what about the dumb play lining up

1:16:25.600 --> 1:16:28.759
<v Speaker 12>wrong on off side on the block on the field goal.

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<v Speaker 3>That the that they that they missed?

1:16:32.000 --> 1:16:34.360
<v Speaker 12>Yes, dj Ivory, how do you line up? How do

1:16:34.400 --> 1:16:36.719
<v Speaker 12>you line up wrong? That cost the Bengals big time?

1:16:37.360 --> 1:16:39.080
<v Speaker 12>That cost the Bengals big time. And of course I

1:16:39.080 --> 1:16:43.160
<v Speaker 12>got to get this in here. The touchdown that won

1:16:43.200 --> 1:16:46.120
<v Speaker 12>the game for the Bears. That receiver was wearing number

1:16:46.120 --> 1:16:49.639
<v Speaker 12>eighty four, gets you war number eighty four for the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 3>Bob Trumpy Bob Trump.

1:16:52.120 --> 1:16:54.960
<v Speaker 12>He wore number eighty four here and Bob Trumpy, you know,

1:16:55.040 --> 1:16:57.760
<v Speaker 12>had passed earlier in the day. I'm watching this guy,

1:16:57.840 --> 1:17:03.040
<v Speaker 12>eighty four tight end catch the ball Peter Becas I'm

1:17:03.040 --> 1:17:03.280
<v Speaker 12>going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it the spirit of Bob Trumpy that caught that

1:17:06.400 --> 1:17:08.040
<v Speaker 2>ball in the end zone against.

1:17:07.760 --> 1:17:10.360
<v Speaker 3>The Bengals live? I think it might have been.

1:17:10.400 --> 1:17:13.200
<v Speaker 12>And I'm really, I'm really, I'm really sad that that

1:17:13.240 --> 1:17:17.800
<v Speaker 12>Bob Trumpy did not did not get the recognition that

1:17:17.840 --> 1:17:20.519
<v Speaker 12>he really had deserved for being one of the best

1:17:20.520 --> 1:17:22.880
<v Speaker 12>tight ends in Bengals history. There are two of the

1:17:22.920 --> 1:17:25.519
<v Speaker 12>best tight ends in Bengals history should be up on

1:17:25.560 --> 1:17:28.800
<v Speaker 12>that wall, Bob Trumpy and Rodney Holman. Rodney Holman holds

1:17:28.800 --> 1:17:31.400
<v Speaker 12>the career record for most receptions by a tight end

1:17:31.640 --> 1:17:33.560
<v Speaker 12>with thirty six touchdowns.

1:17:33.680 --> 1:17:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Trumpy had thirty five.

1:17:35.160 --> 1:17:37.360
<v Speaker 12>Rodney Holman played on that Super Bowl team and he

1:17:37.400 --> 1:17:40.559
<v Speaker 12>gets no recognition. Tyler Eifert might have been the best ever,

1:17:40.840 --> 1:17:43.400
<v Speaker 12>but he couldn't stay healthy. But Bob Trump, he should

1:17:43.400 --> 1:17:45.880
<v Speaker 12>have been honored, And now he probably won't be. He

1:17:45.960 --> 1:17:48.120
<v Speaker 12>might be, you know, coach Kim Riley, but I really

1:17:48.200 --> 1:17:50.240
<v Speaker 12>doubt it. But Bob Trump, he should have been honored

1:17:50.400 --> 1:17:52.000
<v Speaker 12>as part of the Ring of Honor. And now he's

1:17:52.040 --> 1:17:53.360
<v Speaker 12>not going to be well.

1:17:53.800 --> 1:17:56.840
<v Speaker 3>Not well. He's alive. He may be posthumously.

1:17:57.439 --> 1:18:01.040
<v Speaker 12>And the one thing about Bob Trumpy, he created sports

1:18:01.080 --> 1:18:02.960
<v Speaker 12>talk in his town. He will always be the king

1:18:03.000 --> 1:18:06.559
<v Speaker 12>of sports talk. Might not like agreed with him a

1:18:06.560 --> 1:18:07.560
<v Speaker 12>lot of times.

1:18:07.520 --> 1:18:08.840
<v Speaker 3>But he was.

1:18:08.600 --> 1:18:10.760
<v Speaker 12>He was great at his craft and he did great

1:18:10.760 --> 1:18:14.120
<v Speaker 12>on television. One of the great stories, Gary Jeff, I'll

1:18:14.120 --> 1:18:17.000
<v Speaker 12>never forget about Bob Trumpy. He had some old guy

1:18:17.080 --> 1:18:20.439
<v Speaker 12>calling him up one night and said, Eric Davis. You know,

1:18:20.560 --> 1:18:22.840
<v Speaker 12>this was early in Eric Davis' career and Eric Davis

1:18:22.840 --> 1:18:26.760
<v Speaker 12>had got hit right and almost into co cononas right

1:18:26.800 --> 1:18:30.040
<v Speaker 12>on the side. This guy said to Bob Trumping, it

1:18:30.080 --> 1:18:33.120
<v Speaker 12>was Pete Rose's job to make sure that Eric Davis

1:18:33.160 --> 1:18:36.000
<v Speaker 12>had a cup on. And Trumpy's laugh, which was you

1:18:36.000 --> 1:18:38.320
<v Speaker 12>could hear him when he laughed to a shake windows

1:18:38.520 --> 1:18:41.360
<v Speaker 12>Trump about fell out of the chair laugh, and that

1:18:41.520 --> 1:18:43.880
<v Speaker 12>this old man said that it was Pete Rose's job

1:18:44.160 --> 1:18:46.240
<v Speaker 12>to make sure that Eric Davis wore a cup.

1:18:46.800 --> 1:18:51.280
<v Speaker 2>I only met Bob Trumpy a few times and talked

1:18:51.280 --> 1:18:54.600
<v Speaker 2>to him extensively a couple of times back in the

1:18:54.680 --> 1:18:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Mount Adams days wild and yes, he was quite the

1:18:59.680 --> 1:19:02.320
<v Speaker 2>care He had great stories. He's the one that told

1:19:02.320 --> 1:19:06.320
<v Speaker 2>me about his pinkle teammate Mike Reid on his way

1:19:06.360 --> 1:19:10.000
<v Speaker 2>to becoming a hit Nashville songwriter. And he told me

1:19:10.080 --> 1:19:14.679
<v Speaker 2>the original story about Mike Read telling him that Mike

1:19:14.720 --> 1:19:16.759
<v Speaker 2>had been on the road for a couple of months

1:19:16.840 --> 1:19:20.200
<v Speaker 2>traveling and performing, you know, when he was trying to

1:19:20.200 --> 1:19:23.800
<v Speaker 2>pursue the music career after football, and his wife was

1:19:23.920 --> 1:19:28.599
<v Speaker 2>upset because Mike Reed had been gone. And he said,

1:19:29.160 --> 1:19:32.599
<v Speaker 2>Mike Reid's wife said, you're like a stranger in this house.

1:19:32.640 --> 1:19:34.679
<v Speaker 2>And Mike Reid said, hold on, honey, in the middle

1:19:34.680 --> 1:19:37.560
<v Speaker 2>of the argument and went and wrote that song Stranger

1:19:37.840 --> 1:19:40.400
<v Speaker 2>in My House for Ronnie millsp And it made him,

1:19:40.560 --> 1:19:41.800
<v Speaker 2>he said it was he said.

1:19:42.000 --> 1:19:42.880
<v Speaker 3>He told him that.

1:19:42.880 --> 1:19:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Mike Reid said it was the best argument he'd ever

1:19:45.080 --> 1:19:48.760
<v Speaker 2>had with his wife. It was perfect. But Trumpy, Uh,

1:19:49.200 --> 1:19:52.799
<v Speaker 2>And guess where most of our conversations took place between

1:19:52.800 --> 1:19:55.559
<v Speaker 2>me and Trumpy the few we had out on the

1:19:55.680 --> 1:19:58.040
<v Speaker 2>smoking patio in Mount Adams.

1:19:58.720 --> 1:20:01.080
<v Speaker 12>Because he smoked like a great train. I know he

1:20:01.160 --> 1:20:03.760
<v Speaker 12>did afraid. He was relentless.

1:20:03.960 --> 1:20:04.200
<v Speaker 5>Man.

1:20:04.760 --> 1:20:06.760
<v Speaker 12>Did you did you ever read his book that he

1:20:06.800 --> 1:20:09.800
<v Speaker 12>wrote years ago. A great book, A great book by

1:20:09.880 --> 1:20:10.479
<v Speaker 12>Bob is it?

1:20:10.560 --> 1:20:11.080
<v Speaker 6>Is it better?

1:20:11.200 --> 1:20:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Is it better than wild Man's book?

1:20:13.600 --> 1:20:16.880
<v Speaker 12>It's it's right about but it's probably right about dead even.

1:20:17.400 --> 1:20:18.880
<v Speaker 3>That's right about dead even. Yeah.

1:20:19.360 --> 1:20:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So tell me, tell me something about the Trumpy

1:20:22.960 --> 1:20:24.240
<v Speaker 2>book that makes it a great book.

1:20:24.280 --> 1:20:28.000
<v Speaker 12>Wild Man, well, he just didn't need well, he did not.

1:20:28.160 --> 1:20:30.559
<v Speaker 12>He did not mince words with the Bengals front office.

1:20:30.600 --> 1:20:33.080
<v Speaker 12>He had not not not bad things to say, but

1:20:33.160 --> 1:20:36.280
<v Speaker 12>he was very critical. He had made him No, he

1:20:36.320 --> 1:20:38.519
<v Speaker 12>did not hold back, and that was that was great

1:20:38.520 --> 1:20:40.000
<v Speaker 12>a hit. That's like me when I got in the

1:20:40.040 --> 1:20:42.760
<v Speaker 12>radio business. I never held back. I had a free

1:20:42.800 --> 1:20:44.639
<v Speaker 12>reign to say pretty much what I wanted to say.

1:20:45.320 --> 1:20:47.120
<v Speaker 12>Trumpy did it trump?

1:20:47.240 --> 1:20:47.320
<v Speaker 5>Is?

1:20:47.360 --> 1:20:49.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, shot from the hip, But he told it

1:20:49.080 --> 1:20:50.880
<v Speaker 2>like it is. Why do you think I have you

1:20:50.920 --> 1:20:51.559
<v Speaker 2>on the show?

1:20:52.800 --> 1:20:54.720
<v Speaker 3>I know, all right?

1:20:54.840 --> 1:20:57.760
<v Speaker 12>So you know we we have Willie. Willie always says,

1:20:57.800 --> 1:20:59.000
<v Speaker 12>I speak truth to power.

1:20:59.520 --> 1:21:02.920
<v Speaker 2>We haven't heard yet about your reaction to and again

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a few days. We're a little long in

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<v Speaker 2>the tooth because I don't have a show every day.

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<v Speaker 2>But you wanted to talk about UC's football's demise at Utah.

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<v Speaker 3>It was they.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Utah was favored at home against the Bearcats,

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<v Speaker 2>and we saw why any any comments on that loss

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<v Speaker 2>for UC.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, what what film you have of it? Throw it

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<v Speaker 12>in the trash and forget about it. I mean that

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<v Speaker 12>was just everything that could go wrong did go wrong

1:21:31.000 --> 1:21:34.160
<v Speaker 12>for the Bearcats. They had penalties, they couldn't drop passes,

1:21:34.520 --> 1:21:36.240
<v Speaker 12>it was just everything. They were out of sync from.

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<v Speaker 12>I could only watch them, like the third quarter. I

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<v Speaker 12>had to turn it off. I said, this is you know,

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<v Speaker 12>this is terrible. I'm gonna sit here subject myself to

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<v Speaker 12>watching this scarbage. And again, you know, it's only one loss,

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<v Speaker 12>and they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Seven and two.

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<v Speaker 12>They got a shot at winning ten games. They're going

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<v Speaker 12>to go to the ball. They got BYU coming in here.

1:21:55.400 --> 1:21:57.559
<v Speaker 12>They got a couple of their tough games, but just

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<v Speaker 12>throw this one. You know, every team has a bad

1:21:59.800 --> 1:22:02.160
<v Speaker 12>law in every team, every team has a bad loss.

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<v Speaker 3>So that in attraction and forget about it.

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<v Speaker 2>No no doubt about that, Okay, wild man, Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we've covered everything except basketball season has now officially begun,

1:22:11.280 --> 1:22:16.080
<v Speaker 2>and every team of note around here wound up winning

1:22:16.200 --> 1:22:21.439
<v Speaker 2>their opening games resoundingly U see Xavier Nku. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>everybody was a winner pretty much.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, and I need a program for right now when

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<v Speaker 12>I'm watching UCM, Xavier goes. I don't know any of

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<v Speaker 12>those Scotts. Well they had a bear Cat, know any

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<v Speaker 12>of those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Bear Cats have a freshman I can't remember his name

1:22:35.880 --> 1:22:39.360
<v Speaker 2>who was had eighteen points in his debut and it

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<v Speaker 2>was the first bear Cat freshman to ever score that

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<v Speaker 2>many points in the debut.

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<v Speaker 3>So well, he's got that going for.

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<v Speaker 12>It's a long road. It's a long road. I mean,

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<v Speaker 12>who they play Western Carolina? Come on, man, I mean

1:22:51.520 --> 1:22:54.360
<v Speaker 12>that game is over in the first quarter. I turned

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<v Speaker 12>it on and I've watched the first quarters that I've

1:22:57.280 --> 1:22:59.640
<v Speaker 12>seen enough, Like lou Banella would say, that game is

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<v Speaker 12>a rout. Xavier had to you know, we're taken to

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<v Speaker 12>the last, you know, the last minute of the game

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<v Speaker 12>before they got rid of Marist and that NK you

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<v Speaker 12>might have played might as well played little Sisters of

1:23:09.680 --> 1:23:13.320
<v Speaker 12>the poor playing West you see West Claremont. I didn't

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<v Speaker 12>even know they had the team. Come on, that's why

1:23:15.920 --> 1:23:16.720
<v Speaker 12>are you playing a team?

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<v Speaker 2>And somebody, somebody said, there was hardly anybody at the

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<v Speaker 2>Xavier game.

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<v Speaker 3>That looked empty.

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<v Speaker 12>And the Miami RedHawks. You know, I forget who they played,

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<v Speaker 12>but they won. But like you said, everybody won. Basketball

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<v Speaker 12>season is here. Can you believe it?

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<v Speaker 8>It is here?

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<v Speaker 2>It's about time, all right, wild Man. That's the way

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<v Speaker 2>the ball bounces tonight. Thanks for your contributions on our

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<v Speaker 2>special election night nightcap, and then those races are pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much all over. But the crying, and there's probably some

1:23:45.200 --> 1:23:48.640
<v Speaker 2>crying going on in places, but wild Man, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for not crying.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I haven't started crying yet, but I might.

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<v Speaker 2>Well if you're living in if you're living in Cincinnati,

1:23:57.840 --> 1:24:01.879
<v Speaker 2>you might have good reason. Yes, wild Man and Furman

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<v Speaker 2>is coming on next as we continue our last hour

1:24:06.240 --> 1:24:11.000
<v Speaker 2>together tonight on seven hundred w l W. Because I

1:24:11.040 --> 1:24:13.920
<v Speaker 2>don't have a whole lot of opportunities to be with

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<v Speaker 2>you on these airwaves, a couple of nights a week,

1:24:16.760 --> 1:24:20.439
<v Speaker 2>maybe Saturday mornings, which I love, by the way, but

1:24:20.600 --> 1:24:23.880
<v Speaker 2>because our time is limited and I consider our time

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<v Speaker 2>precious together, I feel like it is my duty to

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<v Speaker 2>bring you consistently the finest guest when I do have

1:24:32.040 --> 1:24:35.960
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity on the night caps, and when I can't

1:24:36.040 --> 1:24:38.760
<v Speaker 2>find one of those finer guests. I can always call

1:24:38.800 --> 1:24:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Andy Furman. I'm kidding now, Andy, Andy, this may be

1:24:44.400 --> 1:24:48.360
<v Speaker 2>and you don't know. I don't know, nobody knows, only

1:24:48.400 --> 1:24:51.519
<v Speaker 2>God knows. This could be the last time we ever

1:24:51.560 --> 1:24:54.599
<v Speaker 2>have a chance to talk together on the air, because

1:24:57.640 --> 1:25:01.519
<v Speaker 2>there will be nobody that has a parade if you

1:25:01.560 --> 1:25:06.000
<v Speaker 2>and I never talk on the air again. Andy, maybe

1:25:06.200 --> 1:25:10.680
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe somebody, maybe some corporate bean counter perhaps, but

1:25:10.760 --> 1:25:16.400
<v Speaker 2>other than that. So I relish the opportunity once again

1:25:17.000 --> 1:25:20.960
<v Speaker 2>to go ted to ted Mano oh Mano with the

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<v Speaker 2>fur Ball on a Tuesday evening. Welcome to the Nightcap

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<v Speaker 2>Election Edition special, Andy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I'm really glad to be with you. You

1:25:32.520 --> 1:25:34.840
<v Speaker 5>know that I look forward to these little chats every week.

1:25:34.920 --> 1:25:38.360
<v Speaker 5>I just have enough time to get my blood boiling

1:25:38.400 --> 1:25:39.439
<v Speaker 5>and then I just hang up on.

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<v Speaker 3>You, which is great. I like that.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a good thing, and I don't dwell on it much.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think we need to touch on the Bengals

1:25:45.040 --> 1:25:48.400
<v Speaker 5>because I really think to some extent, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 5>now has Dupe Tobin become an idiot? I mean really,

1:25:52.280 --> 1:25:55.200
<v Speaker 5>I mean these people wanted to come forth and speak.

1:25:55.479 --> 1:25:57.920
<v Speaker 5>What is he going to say? And what is the

1:25:57.960 --> 1:26:00.479
<v Speaker 5>media going to write? So I don't understan. I just

1:26:00.640 --> 1:26:02.760
<v Speaker 5>go the distance. You know, when you're in the thick

1:26:02.840 --> 1:26:06.360
<v Speaker 5>of the storm, you just jump on board with everybody else.

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<v Speaker 5>You know. One media person says it's Duke Tobin's fault.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, he's to play a personnel guy. And another person,

1:26:12.360 --> 1:26:14.360
<v Speaker 5>oh yeah, and the next person all the way he

1:26:14.400 --> 1:26:17.240
<v Speaker 5>needs to speak in his choice says, why we know

1:26:17.280 --> 1:26:21.160
<v Speaker 5>how big the team is, and certainly they're partially responsible

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<v Speaker 5>to him. But I think all roads head back to

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<v Speaker 5>Zach Taylor.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks number one, number number two, number two.

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<v Speaker 5>Duke Tobin has been there like for like nineteen twenty years.

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<v Speaker 5>All of a sudden, now he's become an idiot. I mean,

1:26:33.680 --> 1:26:36.320
<v Speaker 5>back off just a little bit. They're bad players that

1:26:36.360 --> 1:26:39.479
<v Speaker 5>have not messed together. Lou hen Rolmos should have been there.

1:26:39.600 --> 1:26:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Still.

1:26:40.400 --> 1:26:43.719
<v Speaker 5>I think Zach Taylor basically has been a poor choice

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<v Speaker 5>of assistant coaches and coordinators. And I'll leave you with

1:26:48.160 --> 1:26:49.640
<v Speaker 5>this and you can tell me if I'm right or

1:26:49.640 --> 1:26:53.120
<v Speaker 5>wrong on this. The biggest, biggest problem the Bengals have

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<v Speaker 5>always had has never hired a big name coach who

1:26:56.240 --> 1:26:59.599
<v Speaker 5>has had NFL coaching experience. Let's take a quick peak.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's take the look. Zach Taylor was not even a coordinator.

1:27:03.160 --> 1:27:05.800
<v Speaker 5>He was a quarterbacks coach. I'm not saying there's not

1:27:05.880 --> 1:27:08.320
<v Speaker 5>the name of football, the game of football, but you

1:27:08.479 --> 1:27:10.600
<v Speaker 5>need to have a guy that when walks into the

1:27:10.640 --> 1:27:14.880
<v Speaker 5>locker room, commands that immediate respect and forrest. Gregt was

1:27:14.920 --> 1:27:17.680
<v Speaker 5>one of the only coaches that did. Dave Schulett did not.

1:27:18.200 --> 1:27:21.360
<v Speaker 5>Bruce Kosa did not. You know, perhaps some extent that

1:27:21.479 --> 1:27:23.960
<v Speaker 5>maybe Sam Weise did. I think Marbret Lewis did, because

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<v Speaker 5>I remember when he was hired.

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<v Speaker 8>What did he do?

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<v Speaker 5>He walked into the clubhouse, and he walked into that

1:27:28.360 --> 1:27:31.320
<v Speaker 5>first news conference and I was there, and he showed

1:27:31.360 --> 1:27:34.840
<v Speaker 5>off that Baltimore Ravens Super Bowl ring. He walked through

1:27:34.880 --> 1:27:37.559
<v Speaker 5>an instant credibility. No one else has ever done that.

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<v Speaker 2>On that Dangos teams, well, I mean they had Dick

1:27:39.880 --> 1:27:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Lebaux for a season, and Dick Lebau one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most successful defensive coaches in the history of the league

1:27:46.760 --> 1:27:49.840
<v Speaker 2>when he came here from Pittsburgh, and he went right

1:27:49.880 --> 1:27:52.920
<v Speaker 2>back to Pittsburgh after, you know, having his tail between

1:27:52.920 --> 1:27:56.680
<v Speaker 2>his legs after that fiasco. But Dick Lebau. I think

1:27:56.720 --> 1:27:59.200
<v Speaker 2>commanded some respect, don't you think or should it?

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's very difficult when a guy moves from

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<v Speaker 5>an assistant or a coordinated to the head job. I'm

1:28:05.240 --> 1:28:08.880
<v Speaker 5>the same team. I think that you could go because

1:28:08.880 --> 1:28:11.879
<v Speaker 5>you're a different relationship with the players, your buddy buddies.

1:28:11.880 --> 1:28:14.759
<v Speaker 5>You're in the coordinator, you're in those little team meeting rooms,

1:28:14.920 --> 1:28:17.600
<v Speaker 5>and you're not overseeing. You're not the guy that's changing

1:28:17.920 --> 1:28:21.400
<v Speaker 5>or molding the franchise or trying to get the culture together.

1:28:21.720 --> 1:28:24.439
<v Speaker 5>You know, the head coach doesn't do much teaching, but

1:28:24.520 --> 1:28:27.360
<v Speaker 5>he brings everybody together. That's what he does. And it's

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<v Speaker 5>a difficult thing for a the COORDINATETD to do that,

1:28:30.320 --> 1:28:32.880
<v Speaker 5>and b for the players to see a change in

1:28:32.920 --> 1:28:35.000
<v Speaker 5>the guy who is your buddy buddy, who's like your

1:28:35.040 --> 1:28:37.840
<v Speaker 5>coffee don and now he's like you're a leader, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's a different feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very difficulty.

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<v Speaker 5>Even in the workplace.

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<v Speaker 3>Is difficult.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't you think that it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard some people say, and I can't disagree with

1:28:47.439 --> 1:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>them at all that I believe it's obvious Zach Taylor

1:28:50.960 --> 1:28:53.200
<v Speaker 2>has lost the locker room and it goes to the

1:28:53.240 --> 1:28:58.040
<v Speaker 2>point that you're making commanding respect and deserving earning that

1:28:58.120 --> 1:29:01.960
<v Speaker 2>respect from the players. And I just don't think that

1:29:02.040 --> 1:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>there's anybody in that Bengals locker room who's looking to

1:29:05.280 --> 1:29:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Zach Taylor for leadership because they haven't seen it out

1:29:07.800 --> 1:29:09.800
<v Speaker 2>of him the entire time he's been here.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you could tell a leader from a mile away.

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<v Speaker 5>And when it comes to coaching, I would say this,

1:29:18.520 --> 1:29:21.240
<v Speaker 5>most coaches know their game that they're coaching, Otherwise they

1:29:21.240 --> 1:29:22.920
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't be in it. I mean, they know the exes

1:29:22.960 --> 1:29:25.559
<v Speaker 5>and those I don't talking about football, tasketball ever. They are.

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<v Speaker 5>But there's a difference between the leader and a guy

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<v Speaker 5>who just controlled be a teacher.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't give you an example.

1:29:32.800 --> 1:29:34.520
<v Speaker 3>Wes Miller, the basketball.

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<v Speaker 5>Coach, and you see not a leader.

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<v Speaker 11>He's not.

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<v Speaker 5>He may know the game, he may have been great

1:29:38.880 --> 1:29:41.439
<v Speaker 5>on the interview. I don't know why he did, you know,

1:29:41.479 --> 1:29:44.400
<v Speaker 5>and he came from a program there was really a

1:29:44.439 --> 1:29:48.080
<v Speaker 5>small program, a lower level Division one school, and he

1:29:48.160 --> 1:29:51.240
<v Speaker 5>had some success there. He has not had any success whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 5>You see, they have not made postseason play since he's

1:29:54.160 --> 1:29:56.040
<v Speaker 5>been there. And I got to believe that has a

1:29:56.040 --> 1:29:58.760
<v Speaker 5>lot to do with his leadership qualities. I see you

1:29:58.800 --> 1:30:01.080
<v Speaker 5>on the bench, I could see, I could see the

1:30:01.120 --> 1:30:03.960
<v Speaker 5>way he acts. I just I know he's not a

1:30:04.040 --> 1:30:07.120
<v Speaker 5>leader Bob Huggins command and respect. I mean when he

1:30:07.200 --> 1:30:09.120
<v Speaker 5>had his first news conference, I was there. You know

1:30:09.120 --> 1:30:11.080
<v Speaker 5>what he said and someone asked, what do you expect

1:30:11.280 --> 1:30:13.400
<v Speaker 5>you know, growing pains and how long it's going to take.

1:30:13.560 --> 1:30:16.160
<v Speaker 5>I expect to win now, that's what he said. You

1:30:16.200 --> 1:30:19.080
<v Speaker 5>know well said that Kirk Signetti when he was high

1:30:19.160 --> 1:30:22.640
<v Speaker 5>from James Madison to become the football coach at Indiana University.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you expect, Kirk?

1:30:24.000 --> 1:30:24.760
<v Speaker 5>I expect to win?

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<v Speaker 3>Now you know what he did.

1:30:26.360 --> 1:30:28.240
<v Speaker 5>Indiana has a chance to win the national.

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<v Speaker 3>Championship of football. Isn't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 5>Three years ago?

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<v Speaker 3>You're crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's that's completely true and completely nuts all at

1:30:36.280 --> 1:30:41.679
<v Speaker 2>the same time. With IU football, and if they weren't

1:30:41.720 --> 1:30:45.960
<v Speaker 2>playing in the same conference with Ohio State, you could

1:30:46.000 --> 1:30:46.439
<v Speaker 2>make an.

1:30:46.439 --> 1:30:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Argument that they're the best team in the Big Ten.

1:30:49.040 --> 1:30:51.280
<v Speaker 2>I still think the buck guys are and I think

1:30:51.320 --> 1:30:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the Buckeys are more likely to win a national championship

1:30:54.000 --> 1:30:54.719
<v Speaker 2>than the Hoosiers.

1:30:55.040 --> 1:30:58.160
<v Speaker 3>But they got a they got a puncher's chance.

1:30:57.960 --> 1:30:58.519
<v Speaker 8>To do that.

1:30:58.600 --> 1:31:02.560
<v Speaker 3>They are really, really good, no doubt about that. I

1:31:02.600 --> 1:31:03.360
<v Speaker 3>will tell you this much.

1:31:03.400 --> 1:31:05.800
<v Speaker 5>I mean, one of the reasons why James Franklin got

1:31:05.800 --> 1:31:07.800
<v Speaker 5>fired as coach at Penn State not because it was

1:31:07.840 --> 1:31:09.920
<v Speaker 5>one of most records. You know, certainly he couldn't beat

1:31:09.920 --> 1:31:12.880
<v Speaker 5>the Big ten teams, He couldn't beat the top ten teams,

1:31:12.880 --> 1:31:16.559
<v Speaker 5>and his record was horrendous against top ten competition. But

1:31:16.920 --> 1:31:20.400
<v Speaker 5>the fact that he just was not compatible, he wasn't friendly,

1:31:20.640 --> 1:31:23.200
<v Speaker 5>and that hurts. You know what we else it heard.

1:31:23.200 --> 1:31:27.240
<v Speaker 5>It hurt coach Brian Kelly at LSU. There was some

1:31:27.360 --> 1:31:30.080
<v Speaker 5>talk now and I've read these reports that he didn't

1:31:30.080 --> 1:31:31.880
<v Speaker 5>even know the names of the players on the team.

1:31:32.280 --> 1:31:33.559
<v Speaker 3>What that's how bad it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, how can you, I know, you've got seventy or

1:31:36.840 --> 1:31:39.759
<v Speaker 2>eighty athletes on some of these major college football teams.

1:31:39.760 --> 1:31:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I get that, But how do you not know the

1:31:42.400 --> 1:31:46.759
<v Speaker 2>names of players that you helped recruit that you're coaching

1:31:46.960 --> 1:31:47.519
<v Speaker 2>every day?

1:31:48.120 --> 1:31:50.400
<v Speaker 3>How does that happen? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I just don't know. When I read that, I was shot.

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<v Speaker 5>And the point is that he just sort of went

1:31:55.680 --> 1:31:58.640
<v Speaker 5>his own way. And you know, again, his record was

1:31:58.680 --> 1:32:01.000
<v Speaker 5>not that bad. I mean, they expect a lot of

1:32:01.160 --> 1:32:03.800
<v Speaker 5>LSU but his record is not a bad record, and

1:32:03.960 --> 1:32:07.320
<v Speaker 5>he just look, he started off like a fool trying

1:32:07.360 --> 1:32:10.000
<v Speaker 5>to have that that Cajun accent that the news conference

1:32:10.040 --> 1:32:12.200
<v Speaker 5>when he was hired. I mean, you don't do that,

1:32:12.320 --> 1:32:14.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, I mean, that doesn't endear you to the community.

1:32:15.040 --> 1:32:16.559
<v Speaker 5>It really doesn't.

1:32:17.800 --> 1:32:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Like a political candidate who suddenly is in a church

1:32:20.760 --> 1:32:24.240
<v Speaker 2>in Atlanta and starts sounding like she just came off

1:32:24.280 --> 1:32:28.680
<v Speaker 2>the plantation. I'm not naming any names, Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harrison. Uh,

1:32:28.960 --> 1:32:33.559
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, there's there's a lack of authenticity to all

1:32:33.640 --> 1:32:37.120
<v Speaker 2>of that, and real matters to people, you know what,

1:32:37.400 --> 1:32:42.160
<v Speaker 2>as much as leadership, as much as leadership and uh,

1:32:42.160 --> 1:32:48.360
<v Speaker 2>commanding presidents matters. In sports, authenticity matters because the players

1:32:48.360 --> 1:32:50.680
<v Speaker 2>can tell if you're a phony or not, just like

1:32:50.720 --> 1:32:53.960
<v Speaker 2>the public can tell usually if a politician is phony

1:32:54.080 --> 1:32:59.880
<v Speaker 2>or not over over a propensity of time with a

1:33:00.320 --> 1:33:02.920
<v Speaker 2>with it, you know, the evidence gathered in a campaign,

1:33:03.280 --> 1:33:05.519
<v Speaker 2>you can tell if somebody's a real person or not,

1:33:05.720 --> 1:33:08.000
<v Speaker 2>or if they're putting on an act, if it's a performance.

1:33:08.479 --> 1:33:12.000
<v Speaker 2>And obviously the thing you noted about Brian Kelly is

1:33:12.040 --> 1:33:13.479
<v Speaker 2>that was performative theater.

1:33:13.840 --> 1:33:14.679
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't real.

1:33:15.120 --> 1:33:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Brian Brian Kelly's he's a Midwest guy period.

1:33:20.960 --> 1:33:21.160
<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>And here's the thing. I mean, I think that these

1:33:23.240 --> 1:33:25.600
<v Speaker 5>coaches when they get hired, I'm not so certain the

1:33:25.600 --> 1:33:28.800
<v Speaker 5>athletic directors do a great background check. They usually hire

1:33:28.840 --> 1:33:32.720
<v Speaker 5>these these agencies, these companies that kind of do the interviews,

1:33:32.760 --> 1:33:34.960
<v Speaker 5>and they come back and say, here's the guys two

1:33:35.040 --> 1:33:36.720
<v Speaker 5>or three by the being, but a bangal ahead and

1:33:36.840 --> 1:33:38.960
<v Speaker 5>hire them. You know, if you're the athletic thirty, you

1:33:39.000 --> 1:33:41.160
<v Speaker 5>do your homework and you see the way he left

1:33:41.160 --> 1:33:44.200
<v Speaker 5>the University of Cincinnati. Yeah, I don't want any part

1:33:44.200 --> 1:33:46.040
<v Speaker 5>of this guy. No, it doesn't have a part of

1:33:46.080 --> 1:33:47.960
<v Speaker 5>the community. He just left like in the middle of

1:33:48.000 --> 1:33:48.280
<v Speaker 5>the night.

1:33:48.320 --> 1:33:49.439
<v Speaker 3>You just you don't do that.

1:33:49.920 --> 1:33:51.960
<v Speaker 5>And he just left Cincinnati. Hang in the bag.

1:33:52.040 --> 1:33:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Remember that it was terrible.

1:33:54.080 --> 1:33:56.200
<v Speaker 2>It was a bad football weekend for me all the

1:33:56.200 --> 1:33:56.879
<v Speaker 2>way around.

1:33:57.560 --> 1:33:57.960
<v Speaker 3>Andy.

1:33:58.400 --> 1:34:02.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean the Bengal obviously they're not my primary team,

1:34:02.520 --> 1:34:04.960
<v Speaker 2>my primary team or the Kansas City Chiefs. And they

1:34:04.960 --> 1:34:10.000
<v Speaker 2>got beat during the regular season by Buffalo again. They're

1:34:10.080 --> 1:34:12.880
<v Speaker 2>now one in five against the Buffalo Bills in the

1:34:12.920 --> 1:34:16.120
<v Speaker 2>regular season. The good thing is that they're four to

1:34:16.200 --> 1:34:20.559
<v Speaker 2>oh in the playoffs in the postseason against the Bills, so,

1:34:20.720 --> 1:34:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

1:34:21.120 --> 1:34:23.680
<v Speaker 5>And the Bills usually collapse in the playoffs anyway, so

1:34:23.760 --> 1:34:25.160
<v Speaker 5>you don't do to worry about, so.

1:34:25.280 --> 1:34:25.479
<v Speaker 6>You know.

1:34:25.520 --> 1:34:29.880
<v Speaker 2>And then the Bengals loss, and I'm down in Tennessee

1:34:30.000 --> 1:34:34.040
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday visiting my parents and they had to deal

1:34:34.080 --> 1:34:37.520
<v Speaker 2>with another Titans loss that looked like it looked promising

1:34:37.680 --> 1:34:41.040
<v Speaker 2>from the beginning, and that poor woefull NFL team in Tennessee.

1:34:41.680 --> 1:34:42.559
<v Speaker 3>Gosh, I'm great.

1:34:42.680 --> 1:34:45.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that I don't live there. I mean, at

1:34:45.640 --> 1:34:47.639
<v Speaker 2>least the Bengals have done something.

1:34:49.479 --> 1:34:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Well. You know, I a would say this, and.

1:34:51.680 --> 1:34:53.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying I'm the guy I lists at the

1:34:53.160 --> 1:34:54.960
<v Speaker 5>bright side of things all the time, because I could

1:34:54.960 --> 1:34:57.400
<v Speaker 5>be pretty hard at that times as well. But you know,

1:34:57.800 --> 1:35:00.160
<v Speaker 5>I still would rather have a bad football team in

1:35:00.200 --> 1:35:03.880
<v Speaker 5>this city that have no football team really, because you know,

1:35:04.240 --> 1:35:07.320
<v Speaker 5>you're a lost city without an NFL franchise. I mean,

1:35:07.720 --> 1:35:09.599
<v Speaker 5>I think I can a little without Major League Baseball,

1:35:09.600 --> 1:35:12.320
<v Speaker 5>I really do. I mean, I love the Reds, but

1:35:12.320 --> 1:35:15.000
<v Speaker 5>but the something will be rough. You know, you're right

1:35:15.000 --> 1:35:15.599
<v Speaker 5>about that.

1:35:15.800 --> 1:35:16.920
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know.

1:35:16.960 --> 1:35:19.320
<v Speaker 5>I mean, without football will be really tough. It will

1:35:19.360 --> 1:35:21.160
<v Speaker 5>be tough for an NFL team here, wouldn't it?

1:35:21.360 --> 1:35:21.679
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

1:35:21.680 --> 1:35:24.479
<v Speaker 2>And the Bearcats lost down the road at Utel, which

1:35:24.560 --> 1:35:27.520
<v Speaker 2>which a lot of people expected, maybe not the Bearcats

1:35:27.600 --> 1:35:33.479
<v Speaker 2>players yet. And and my Vanderbilt Commodores went into Texas

1:35:34.080 --> 1:35:35.880
<v Speaker 2>that it had an up and down season up to

1:35:35.920 --> 1:35:40.120
<v Speaker 2>this point with a very famous named quarterback, young quarterback

1:35:40.280 --> 1:35:44.000
<v Speaker 2>arch Manning at the helm against my guy, Diego Pavia,

1:35:44.680 --> 1:35:47.600
<v Speaker 2>and it looked like Vanderbilt was going to get absolutely

1:35:47.720 --> 1:35:55.800
<v Speaker 2>shellacked too. But that comeback at the end when they

1:35:55.840 --> 1:35:59.599
<v Speaker 2>score and it's a three point game, and then they

1:35:59.840 --> 1:36:02.320
<v Speaker 2>almost recover the on side kick at the end with

1:36:02.479 --> 1:36:05.280
<v Speaker 2>like seventeen seconds with a chance to win. That was

1:36:05.320 --> 1:36:09.280
<v Speaker 2>an exciting football game, but again, very disappointing for me ultimately.

1:36:09.439 --> 1:36:12.479
<v Speaker 5>But I still think they have a postseason play. They

1:36:12.560 --> 1:36:14.320
<v Speaker 5>can be in the college football Tournament.

1:36:14.360 --> 1:36:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely no.

1:36:15.680 --> 1:36:19.679
<v Speaker 2>They're six two in the SEC.

1:36:20.600 --> 1:36:23.200
<v Speaker 5>Tennessee. They got a big game against Tennessee. They got

1:36:23.240 --> 1:36:24.280
<v Speaker 5>to beat Tennessee.

1:36:23.800 --> 1:36:26.440
<v Speaker 2>They got to beat Auburn, they got to beat Kentucky,

1:36:26.720 --> 1:36:29.799
<v Speaker 2>they got to beat Tennessee. They do all that, They'll

1:36:29.840 --> 1:36:33.320
<v Speaker 2>have ten wins on the season and they going to

1:36:33.400 --> 1:36:35.880
<v Speaker 2>a major bowl game, or they could be in the

1:36:35.920 --> 1:36:37.439
<v Speaker 2>College the twelve teams.

1:36:37.479 --> 1:36:38.280
<v Speaker 3>They could.

1:36:38.520 --> 1:36:41.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm not wrong, they will be, you know, I really

1:36:41.160 --> 1:36:43.040
<v Speaker 5>think they will be. And it's amazing what that school

1:36:43.120 --> 1:36:45.200
<v Speaker 5>is dumb because you know, for years I thought that

1:36:45.240 --> 1:36:47.439
<v Speaker 5>school should probably be in the IVY League with schools

1:36:47.479 --> 1:36:51.360
<v Speaker 5>like Brown and Colombia, Penn and Princeton. Really well there

1:36:51.400 --> 1:36:54.840
<v Speaker 5>academically sure their.

1:36:53.840 --> 1:36:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Admission their admission standards are about the same as opposed

1:36:56.840 --> 1:36:59.720
<v Speaker 2>to the other SEC state schools where you got where

1:36:59.720 --> 1:37:01.680
<v Speaker 2>you get, you get a two point zero and you

1:37:01.800 --> 1:37:04.240
<v Speaker 2>just barely made a see and said, yeah, he's he's

1:37:04.240 --> 1:37:08.560
<v Speaker 2>a genius put the criminal justice.

1:37:08.880 --> 1:37:11.320
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's it's kind of crazy how they even

1:37:11.560 --> 1:37:13.760
<v Speaker 5>got into that conference with those schools. Don't you think

1:37:13.800 --> 1:37:18.360
<v Speaker 5>that there's nothing common them, right, I mean, there's no

1:37:18.400 --> 1:37:22.479
<v Speaker 5>common thread between those those schools. And then really maybe

1:37:22.479 --> 1:37:25.240
<v Speaker 5>they brought them in to bring the average GPA up

1:37:25.479 --> 1:37:26.040
<v Speaker 5>in the league.

1:37:26.080 --> 1:37:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Well either that or to get a guaranteed win for

1:37:28.800 --> 1:37:34.920
<v Speaker 2>teams like Alabama and Georgia. Maybe that was no, no, no,

1:37:35.680 --> 1:37:40.479
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, just not a fulfilling college football weekend for me.

1:37:40.560 --> 1:37:43.200
<v Speaker 3>And I'm trying to feel better.

1:37:44.320 --> 1:37:46.519
<v Speaker 5>Well, you can't because of what I did, and for

1:37:46.520 --> 1:37:49.280
<v Speaker 5>some reason I turned I turned the game on the radio.

1:37:49.400 --> 1:37:50.840
<v Speaker 5>I don't know why I didn't turn on the team

1:37:50.840 --> 1:37:53.200
<v Speaker 5>for somebody, I turned the game on radio, and next

1:37:53.200 --> 1:37:55.439
<v Speaker 5>thing I know, in the pregame, I'm here that Bob

1:37:55.439 --> 1:37:56.120
<v Speaker 5>Trump he died.

1:37:56.840 --> 1:37:57.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I know.

1:37:57.240 --> 1:37:58.000
<v Speaker 5>I was out of town.

1:37:58.080 --> 1:37:59.120
<v Speaker 3>That's right. There was on TV.

1:37:59.200 --> 1:38:01.280
<v Speaker 5>I was driving and I had the radio and I

1:38:01.320 --> 1:38:03.280
<v Speaker 5>was listening to the iHeart app. That's how I listened

1:38:03.280 --> 1:38:06.719
<v Speaker 5>to the game and I heard Dan Hoard and Dave Lapham.

1:38:07.120 --> 1:38:09.599
<v Speaker 3>I said, what Bob Trump he died?

1:38:10.000 --> 1:38:12.759
<v Speaker 5>And all the reports I had read it never said

1:38:12.760 --> 1:38:17.439
<v Speaker 5>what he passed from, but obviously probably something that was smoking,

1:38:17.520 --> 1:38:19.679
<v Speaker 5>because he was it was one hell of a smoker.

1:38:19.680 --> 1:38:22.599
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I remember back on Third Street three Sports too,

1:38:22.680 --> 1:38:25.240
<v Speaker 5>we had our studios. That place looked like a steam room.

1:38:25.520 --> 1:38:27.439
<v Speaker 3>I was just I was just going to bring it up.

1:38:27.439 --> 1:38:30.000
<v Speaker 2>When I first came to Cincinnati in nineteen ninety four,

1:38:30.520 --> 1:38:33.280
<v Speaker 2>our studios for ninety two point five FM, where I

1:38:33.400 --> 1:38:37.719
<v Speaker 2>initially worked here, were down in that in that little

1:38:37.760 --> 1:38:40.960
<v Speaker 2>building there, and I think KRC was there, and that

1:38:41.000 --> 1:38:43.400
<v Speaker 2>their studio looked out over the river. That's where Jerry

1:38:43.439 --> 1:38:45.519
<v Speaker 2>Thomas sat and did his show before they moved up

1:38:45.520 --> 1:38:46.679
<v Speaker 2>to Mount Adams too.

1:38:47.000 --> 1:38:47.640
<v Speaker 3>And C.

1:38:47.880 --> 1:38:50.600
<v Speaker 2>K Y was in there and Trumpy would tape the

1:38:50.640 --> 1:38:55.720
<v Speaker 2>sports talk coming up leading up to a Bengals gamer afterwards.

1:38:56.520 --> 1:38:59.479
<v Speaker 2>And in that room, in that room, they had a

1:38:59.479 --> 1:39:02.759
<v Speaker 2>big comp French room, as you remember, And you're right, yes,

1:39:03.520 --> 1:39:06.880
<v Speaker 2>that was the weirdest color of yellow I've ever seen

1:39:06.960 --> 1:39:08.040
<v Speaker 2>on glass quarrels.

1:39:08.439 --> 1:39:10.440
<v Speaker 3>And Trump was constant.

1:39:10.720 --> 1:39:14.920
<v Speaker 2>He didn't stop, he didn't put it. The second the

1:39:15.000 --> 1:39:18.680
<v Speaker 2>cigarette was out, another one was being lit and it

1:39:18.720 --> 1:39:21.519
<v Speaker 2>was Bob. And I just imagine the poor people in

1:39:21.560 --> 1:39:23.759
<v Speaker 2>the room with him and just sit.

1:39:23.720 --> 1:39:25.160
<v Speaker 3>There alcoholt further.

1:39:25.280 --> 1:39:29.160
<v Speaker 5>You know, you couldn't or wouldn't or fearful of even

1:39:29.200 --> 1:39:32.400
<v Speaker 5>going to him to say can you please put it out?

1:39:32.600 --> 1:39:35.040
<v Speaker 5>Because he give you two words, two letters, F you

1:39:35.600 --> 1:39:36.280
<v Speaker 5>that's what he would do.

1:39:36.479 --> 1:39:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, you can't, No, you can't, and you can't spell.

1:39:40.160 --> 1:39:42.679
<v Speaker 3>You can't spare spell Furman without f you. So what's

1:39:42.680 --> 1:39:45.080
<v Speaker 3>wrong with that? F you? But anyway, continued story.

1:39:45.600 --> 1:39:48.400
<v Speaker 5>No, but but I'll say this one thing about a

1:39:48.400 --> 1:39:52.080
<v Speaker 5>tremendous broadcaster, a hell of a career both football and broadcasting.

1:39:52.520 --> 1:39:55.160
<v Speaker 5>But again I would say this, he had one hell

1:39:55.160 --> 1:39:58.160
<v Speaker 5>of a presence, and he can't be viewed as as

1:39:58.200 --> 1:39:59.920
<v Speaker 5>a bully, and he also had a good heart to

1:40:00.120 --> 1:40:02.360
<v Speaker 5>I'll go that way. But I remember one time when

1:40:02.400 --> 1:40:04.800
<v Speaker 5>Randy Michael's our program director, and I was down there.

1:40:05.120 --> 1:40:07.960
<v Speaker 5>He asked Bob to read the school closings during the

1:40:08.000 --> 1:40:10.040
<v Speaker 5>winter months. Yeah, and he says, I need read the

1:40:10.040 --> 1:40:13.160
<v Speaker 5>school closings. I mean never came to staff meetings. No

1:40:13.200 --> 1:40:16.000
<v Speaker 5>one expected him to. But again at that point in time,

1:40:16.240 --> 1:40:18.760
<v Speaker 5>when I first started at seven hundred, I mean I

1:40:18.800 --> 1:40:22.400
<v Speaker 5>would think sports Talk his show was maybe sixty seventy

1:40:22.439 --> 1:40:25.439
<v Speaker 5>percent of the total revenue of the entire station, which

1:40:25.439 --> 1:40:27.200
<v Speaker 5>doesn't rule out the fact that he shouldn't be part

1:40:27.240 --> 1:40:30.320
<v Speaker 5>of his staff, but he never really was. And so

1:40:30.360 --> 1:40:33.280
<v Speaker 5>when Randy says, please, you know, not please, but you

1:40:33.560 --> 1:40:35.800
<v Speaker 5>you need to read the school closings, he says, I

1:40:35.840 --> 1:40:38.280
<v Speaker 5>don't read school closings. And then they got into it,

1:40:38.320 --> 1:40:40.640
<v Speaker 5>and I remember Bob took Randy against the wall and

1:40:40.680 --> 1:40:41.760
<v Speaker 5>lifted him off the wall and.

1:40:41.680 --> 1:40:43.680
<v Speaker 10>He had his throat by his shoulders.

1:40:43.840 --> 1:40:46.120
<v Speaker 5>It was crazy, and Bill Dennis and the segment read

1:40:46.120 --> 1:40:49.400
<v Speaker 5>the school closing. So look, I would say this a

1:40:49.439 --> 1:40:52.920
<v Speaker 5>tremendous talent both on the field and football, and certainly

1:40:52.960 --> 1:40:54.559
<v Speaker 5>it's a shame that he won't be in the Ring

1:40:54.600 --> 1:40:56.439
<v Speaker 5>of Honor and out when he's alive, and he should

1:40:56.439 --> 1:40:59.960
<v Speaker 5>have been. That's another story. But I think that again,

1:41:00.040 --> 1:41:02.040
<v Speaker 5>and to some extent, I would have to use the

1:41:02.120 --> 1:41:04.120
<v Speaker 5>term maybe he was very difficult.

1:41:03.680 --> 1:41:07.120
<v Speaker 3>To coach, a little uncoachable. Was that maybe?

1:41:07.200 --> 1:41:11.120
<v Speaker 2>But you're right, larger than life presence back to the

1:41:11.160 --> 1:41:13.759
<v Speaker 2>coaching coaching thing we were talking about at the inception

1:41:13.840 --> 1:41:20.120
<v Speaker 2>of this conversation. Bob Huggins, Bob Trumpy, uh right, Bobby,

1:41:20.400 --> 1:41:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Bobby Knight.

1:41:22.360 --> 1:41:24.400
<v Speaker 5>These are people that when you have a party and

1:41:24.400 --> 1:41:26.920
<v Speaker 5>they walk into the room, everybody stops and turns around

1:41:26.920 --> 1:41:29.880
<v Speaker 5>and doesn't say a word. Yeah, certain people might that

1:41:30.240 --> 1:41:32.439
<v Speaker 5>he's one of them. I would think like Rick Patino

1:41:32.479 --> 1:41:34.719
<v Speaker 5>would be one of those guys, you know, Bob Knife

1:41:34.720 --> 1:41:36.280
<v Speaker 5>for Shure, Bob Huggins another one.

1:41:36.439 --> 1:41:37.679
<v Speaker 3>You know. I'm trying to think.

1:41:37.479 --> 1:41:39.719
<v Speaker 5>Of a coach here now, in this in this town

1:41:40.120 --> 1:41:42.479
<v Speaker 5>that would have that kind of presence. I don't think

1:41:42.479 --> 1:41:43.080
<v Speaker 5>there is one.

1:41:43.400 --> 1:41:45.960
<v Speaker 3>I really don't. Does Sparky kind of have that presence

1:41:46.200 --> 1:41:46.839
<v Speaker 3>for the Reds.

1:41:47.040 --> 1:41:48.560
<v Speaker 5>I was not here when Sparky was here, but I

1:41:48.600 --> 1:41:50.839
<v Speaker 5>would assume he did, right, I think.

1:41:50.640 --> 1:41:51.360
<v Speaker 3>He probably did.

1:41:51.520 --> 1:41:51.760
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

1:41:52.600 --> 1:41:58.720
<v Speaker 3>Leadership, well, Tito may have that, yeah, a little bit.

1:41:58.880 --> 1:41:59.599
<v Speaker 3>I'll give him that.

1:41:59.720 --> 1:42:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Phil Jackson with the with the bulls and the Lake,

1:42:03.600 --> 1:42:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean he had that kind of commanding the room.

1:42:07.040 --> 1:42:10.080
<v Speaker 5>You know, in the years and coaching here in Cincinnati.

1:42:10.120 --> 1:42:17.760
<v Speaker 3>How would think Pete Gillen did. I'll give you that.

1:42:17.840 --> 1:42:20.880
<v Speaker 2>With with with with that rivalry between UC and Xavier

1:42:20.920 --> 1:42:24.840
<v Speaker 2>that existed at that point, it was great Gillan. Gillan

1:42:25.000 --> 1:42:27.479
<v Speaker 2>had to have that kind of commanding presence just to

1:42:27.560 --> 1:42:30.080
<v Speaker 2>match Huggins, right.

1:42:30.760 --> 1:42:33.200
<v Speaker 5>You know, you know it wasn't forced, it was it

1:42:33.240 --> 1:42:34.080
<v Speaker 5>was in the d n A.

1:42:34.680 --> 1:42:35.200
<v Speaker 3>They had it.

1:42:35.880 --> 1:42:37.679
<v Speaker 5>That's what it was. And it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great for the authenticity. Authenticity. We we've come full circle. Andy,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for rounding out the show. We

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate your help tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, my friend.

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<v Speaker 8>I'll see you sometime.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope this wasn't the last time, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>we can do better. That's that's the fur ball on

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred l W