Speaker 1: Welcome to the Nightcap on seven under WLW Election night
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati and elsewhere, and of course we'll be covering
Speaker 1: those results.
Speaker 2: It looks like have Ted purvol has been it's projected
Speaker 2: to win the mayor's race in Cincinnati, and the city
Speaker 2: council isn't changing.
Speaker 3: And you have to scratch your head and wonder.
Speaker 2: Why, except that people who were concerned about the way
Speaker 2: things have been going didn't turn out and vote again Again,
Speaker 2: we'll get to that. Gary Jeff with you on this
Speaker 2: Tuesday night, November fourth, and it is off yr election night.
Speaker 3: And before we begin, just.
Speaker 2: Some thoughts on election night, especially one of these next
Speaker 2: to your course in midterms and you will see greater
Speaker 2: turnout and more enthusiasm and more energy and more electricity
Speaker 2: around that because it really determines the balance of power
Speaker 2: in our federal government. But all politics is local, I thought.
Speaker 2: And when you have routinely in a city, say like Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: where only twenty percent of the population turns out, unless
Speaker 2: it's a presidential election or even a midterm election, a
Speaker 2: mayoral election, this is the election that controls how your
Speaker 2: city is governed, where you live, and you don't show
Speaker 2: up at the polls unless you are one of those
Speaker 2: extremely partisan people. And in the city of Cincinnati, most
Speaker 2: of those extremely partisan people are Democrats, obviously by the
Speaker 2: results that we get in almost every election for how
Speaker 2: many of the last few decades, fifty sixty years.
Speaker 3: Something like that.
Speaker 2: You can't expect change if you don't go out and
Speaker 2: pull the lever, or you don't have your vote registered.
Speaker 2: And I was thinking about that too from my particular standpoint,
Speaker 2: and not just in off year elections. I had nothing
Speaker 2: to vote for it all. I live in northern Kentucky
Speaker 2: and there was nothing on the ballot on the issues
Speaker 2: really for me to voice my opinion about, which I
Speaker 2: do every time I get a chance. I don't live
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. I don't live in Cleveland either, Samwish, but
Speaker 2: I don't live in New Jersey or Virginia or New
Speaker 2: York City. And the way I am seeing these races
Speaker 2: shape up around the country, I'm really glad I don't
Speaker 2: because I wouldn't vote for any of these people who
Speaker 2: are the current front runners right now, unless even if
Speaker 2: I had a gun to my head, even if I
Speaker 2: was being promised everything free for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: We have politicians offering you free stuff, all freedom goes away,
Speaker 2: all real freedom, and those of us who are smart
Speaker 2: enough know that. I wouldn't say that a lot of
Speaker 2: gen z qualifies as smart enough. And apparently in New
Speaker 2: York City at least they've been energized to vote for
Speaker 2: a communist calling whatever you want. But there are more
Speaker 2: important things. My wife and I just got back from
Speaker 2: Middle Tennessee to see my parents this weekend. Had a
Speaker 2: great overnight visit with mom and dad on Sunday, came
Speaker 2: back yesterday afternoon. Not enough time, but at least we
Speaker 2: got to go. My dad was eighty nine last Thursday
Speaker 2: night on November or October thirtieth, eighty nine and still
Speaker 2: just hanging in there. My mother is eighty eight, and
Speaker 2: she is absolutely a machine, energizer, bunner, a bunny plus.
Speaker 2: But I got off the phone with my mom this
Speaker 2: afternoon found out that quite suddenly, one of my younger brothers,
Speaker 2: John had emergency surgery, just out of the blue, to
Speaker 2: reconnect his intestines with his stomach. Stuff wasn't getting through.
Speaker 2: But this is just like like that. Nobody knew anything
Speaker 2: was wrong until it was, and he's in ICU right
Speaker 2: now at a hospital in Smyrna, Tennessee. My brother John,
Speaker 2: My brother Dwyane, who was going to take my mother
Speaker 2: from Hendersonville out to Smyrna to see my brother in
Speaker 2: the hospital, had a car accident on the way to
Speaker 2: go to pick my mom up. Must be the bare
Speaker 2: moon on the way. Our first guest of the evening
Speaker 2: is a woman who is an independent journalist. She is
Speaker 2: a White House reporter. Her name is Karin Clifford, and
Speaker 2: we'll talk about the implications for the Trump administration with
Speaker 2: the elections that are going on tonight and what it
Speaker 2: means for the midterms. Who knows Karinn Clifford on the
Speaker 2: way In just a few moments. My old buddy Rick Robinson,
Speaker 2: lawyer and author and friend, will join us at nine
Speaker 2: thirty five. He spent many a year in Washington, d c.
Speaker 3: And in the.
Speaker 2: Powers of political the corridors of political power in the
Speaker 2: Commonwealth of Kentucky. Worked with Jim Bunning when he was
Speaker 2: in the Senate. He will join us a little bit
Speaker 2: later on this hour. Jim Nacy, who knows a lot
Speaker 2: about elections. He's won some, he's lost some, and has
Speaker 2: some definite opinions, not only on what went on around
Speaker 2: the country in the elections that were held, but also
Speaker 2: the government shut down, which is shaping up now to
Speaker 2: be the longest ever in our country's history. And at
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock we will have an hour of sports for
Speaker 2: the out of sorts. The wild Man Ann Furman will
Speaker 2: join us regular Night Cap contributors, and you can be
Speaker 2: a contributor to The phone lines are open all night,
Speaker 2: so I've got anything that sparks your fancy or you
Speaker 2: want to chime in on elections or otherwise. And of course,
Speaker 2: the horrific plane takeoff crash in Louisville today around ten
Speaker 2: after five this afternoon that laid a huge swath of
Speaker 2: fire all over the runway at Muhammad Ali International Airport,
Speaker 2: left three people dead, eleven injured, and thousands under a
Speaker 2: stay in place order with the jet fuel all over
Speaker 2: the place and fire and the ensuing smoke from that fire.
Speaker 2: So it's been a big day, not necessarily the kind
Speaker 2: that you want to see, but lots to cover. It's
Speaker 2: nine sixteen current. Think Clifford will join this in just
Speaker 2: a few moments from the Washington Reporters Press Pool on
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. On this election night, in Cincinnati and
Speaker 2: elsewhere around the country. Gary Jeff with you on the
Speaker 2: Nightcap on seven hundred WLW, joining us now is a
Speaker 2: prominent member of the White House Press Corps, independent journalist
Speaker 2: and spokesperson for SAT one two three dot com, a
Speaker 2: leading provider of emergency communication tools, originally from Pacific Palisades, California, which,
Speaker 2: of course we all saw tragically destroyed by the wildfires
Speaker 2: in January of this year. She has a very personal
Speaker 2: perspective coverage of emergencies and national crises. Just had an
Speaker 2: emergency today at Muhammad Ali International Airport down the road
Speaker 2: in Louisville, Kentucky. Korinn Clifford joins us Karin, Good evening.
Speaker 2: I understand from what my producer says that you're sounding
Speaker 2: a lot like Secretary Kennedy right now.
Speaker 3: You're so horse from doing interviews all day.
Speaker 4: Yes, I sound like Secret Kennedy. I actually sound a
Speaker 4: lot like Demi Moore too. I lost my voice from
Speaker 4: the election coverage I've been doing all day at the
Speaker 4: White House.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Well, you know, I think it's actually
Speaker 2: quite fetching. And uh I love I love it. I
Speaker 2: love a good voice.
Speaker 4: Especially that one I can give you a really good voice.
Speaker 4: It sounds like to me more.
Speaker 3: It does sound in your in your.
Speaker 2: Former state of California. You know you don't live in California.
Speaker 4: Anymore, right, I live in California.
Speaker 3: You do.
Speaker 4: Virginia, Washington, d C. And Florida, and I registered to
Speaker 4: vote in all three states. I didn't register in DC.
Speaker 4: I registered in California, Virginia, and Florida. And I got
Speaker 4: threatened by the deputy sheriff if I vote, they will
Speaker 4: arrest me.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you should, just you should. You should
Speaker 2: become a Democrat and they'll let you do it.
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly. They're telling me that because I registered in
Speaker 4: three states, which I don't believe right to do that,
Speaker 4: I can't vote. But I didn't vote. I didn't vote
Speaker 4: because what's the point. Yes, the Democrats are winning everything
Speaker 4: because they mess with our elections. I have phone calls
Speaker 4: coming from all over America, from very simple electioneering to
Speaker 4: very complex where they won't let people vote and then
Speaker 4: they just throw your bullet in the trust. In Virginia,
Speaker 4: you don't even have to show ida vote. How is
Speaker 4: that possible?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 2: Well, that explains the large margin that Spamberger has over
Speaker 2: wins Sea. Uh, if they've just called New Jersey for
Speaker 2: Mikey Cheryl, do you think do you think that Jack
Speaker 2: Chittarelli after the third time should just say Okay, maybe
Speaker 2: somebody else needs this. I will tell you what's interesting though,
Speaker 2: And I'm just seeing it on the screen, Karen, is
Speaker 2: that in New York mon Donnie is forty nine percent,
Speaker 2: Curtis Lee was eight point nine, Cuoma was forty one.
Speaker 2: So it's it's literally a dead heat in New York City.
Speaker 2: But because Slee was in the race, it looks like
Speaker 2: Mom Donnie is going to true to form win. This
Speaker 2: may Earl's race there.
Speaker 4: Slee and I love him known personally, he's an amazing person.
Speaker 4: That he should have dropped out of the race. He
Speaker 4: should have dropped out of the race and let Cloma wins.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Between the two of them, they've got forty nine point
Speaker 2: six percent of the vote.
Speaker 4: Yes, And did you see that Elon Musk is tweeting
Speaker 4: that there is a weird problem with the ballot in
Speaker 4: New York City. So Elon Musk is admitting that there's
Speaker 4: election corruption, potential fraud happening in the New York City race.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't surprise me a bit.
Speaker 2: After what was pulled off in twenty twenty around the
Speaker 2: country in places like Pennsylvania, And that's all.
Speaker 4: Right, yes, And they haven't cleaned the voter rolls in
Speaker 4: New York City, so dead people vote. In Virginia, we
Speaker 4: have a major migrant crisis, and they're letting the illegals vote.
Speaker 4: In California is a train wreck because they're redistricting it.
Speaker 4: We have to go to executive orders by governors and
Speaker 4: of course President Trump to hand count vote. We have
Speaker 4: to use paper ballots and a receipt for you voted for,
Speaker 4: and we have to hand count the vote before the
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six midterms.
Speaker 2: This is this is the only thing you you say
Speaker 2: that will guarantee a free and fair election.
Speaker 3: Karin.
Speaker 4: Yes, we're in trouble. Our elections are corrupted. And I've
Speaker 4: interviewed hundreds of people across America because they call me.
Speaker 4: I dogs my phone number and they tell me what
Speaker 4: they're going through. That's why I lost my voice today.
Speaker 4: There's so much election.
Speaker 2: Well you thought you would have thought, Karin talking to
Speaker 2: Karin Clifford, White House reporter and a spokesperson for SAD
Speaker 2: one two three dot com Krinn, you would have thought
Speaker 2: after twenty twenty and the court battles that were won
Speaker 2: too late, after the fact, uh, that we were over
Speaker 2: that in this country. You'd have thought that people enough
Speaker 2: people had woken up to not let that ever happen again.
Speaker 5: But apparently we have to.
Speaker 4: Paper ballot. Of course, id you have idea, but we
Speaker 4: have to handcout the vote. We cannot use machines. We
Speaker 4: cannot trust any machines. And I have studied this for
Speaker 4: years now, for years and years.
Speaker 3: And President Trump has old.
Speaker 4: Team, and we better take action before the twenty twenty
Speaker 4: six the terms. It's going to be a mess.
Speaker 2: So do you think that means communists?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 2: I know, do you think that being said Karin, that
Speaker 2: this election really means anything as far as the Democrats
Speaker 2: regaining power in the House or the Senate, or that
Speaker 2: there's some kind of blue wave coming next year or
Speaker 2: this is an aberration and it's all been caused by
Speaker 2: election fraud.
Speaker 4: No, listen, there is no blue waves coming. There is
Speaker 4: no blue waves coming. This is happening because we do
Speaker 4: not have secure elections. We have to go to paper pilots.
Speaker 4: We have to go to hand counting the vote. The
Speaker 4: Democrats to not be winning California is Republican. I interview
Speaker 4: hundreds of people across America. The elections are.
Speaker 2: Corrupted and now and now Newsom has convinced the population
Speaker 2: or maybe through vote fraud, is getting Prop fifty passed,
Speaker 2: and they're going to try and ensure that it's almost
Speaker 2: impossible for a Republican to get elected in the House
Speaker 2: of Representatives from California.
Speaker 4: Yes, to read this certainment. So it's a big mess.
Speaker 4: We're in trouble because we haven't taken action. We talk
Speaker 4: that we haven't done any new orders to meet.
Speaker 3: The elections fair, Karen.
Speaker 2: If people want to find out more, they can go
Speaker 2: to If people want to find out more, they go
Speaker 2: to SAT one two three dot com. As far as
Speaker 2: your emergency preparedness that you're heavily involved with, we're out
Speaker 2: of time, sadly, and you, young lady, need to go
Speaker 2: rest your voice.
Speaker 4: God bless you, Thank you.
Speaker 2: God bless you. Thanks for hanging in there long enough
Speaker 2: for us to get that done. Fraudulent elections in New
Speaker 2: York City, in New Jersey and Virginia, she says, yes,
Speaker 2: and in California.
Speaker 3: Scary stuff.
Speaker 2: Nine thirty News time at seven hundred WLW meet the
Speaker 2: new City Council in Cincinnati same as the old city
Speaker 2: council except for Victoria Parks. That atrocity went away anyway,
Speaker 2: And the mayoral r says, you know, has been called
Speaker 2: for f tab purevol for quite a while now. And
Speaker 2: my friend Pastor Cory Bowman, who put on a brilliant campaign,
Speaker 2: just not enough turnout people who truly care about the
Speaker 2: city to make a change and make a difference that
Speaker 2: the city desperately needs. And around the country more election
Speaker 2: results that are all favoring Democrats so far. The race
Speaker 2: just called in New York City a communist, he calls
Speaker 2: himself a Democrat socialist. Zran Memdani is going to win
Speaker 2: with just over fifty percent of the vote.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Andrew Cuomo had forty one point three percent of the vote.
Speaker 2: Curtis Leiwa had seven point five percent of the vote.
Speaker 2: So that's forty eight point eight if by math is correct,
Speaker 2: and it seldom is to fifty point four for this
Speaker 2: smiling piece of well, I'm not entitled to an opinion.
Speaker 2: I don't live in New York City. But basically, what
Speaker 2: seems to me to be an empty suit promising everything free.
Speaker 2: And as I mentioned earlier, if everything's free, then you
Speaker 2: really don't have any freedom as an individual. Soviet Union, Venezuela, Cuba,
Speaker 2: check it out, Communist China. To talk about election night,
Speaker 2: a guy who's been on the inner workings of many
Speaker 2: a political campaign. He's been inside the Beltway in Washington, DC,
Speaker 2: He's been to Frankfurt. He probably has a chair there
Speaker 2: at some bourbon bar with his name engraved on the
Speaker 2: back of it. He is our guest. Now, my friend,
Speaker 2: author lawyer Rick Robinson joins us. Hello, mister Robinson, how.
Speaker 3: Are you meet the boss?
Speaker 7: Say?
Speaker 3: Oh, boss, that's it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I welcome to Cincinnati politics. I tell you what,
Speaker 8: you gotta love that one.
Speaker 2: The wheel just goes round and round and round, and
Speaker 2: the and the Gerbils still isn't is any the wiser anyway?
Speaker 3: Go ahead?
Speaker 8: You know you know what I love about that race.
Speaker 8: The guy who broke into the house of the congressional
Speaker 8: candidate Fisher was the day I can't remember. He's not last.
Speaker 2: Well in Virginia, the attorney general might not be the
Speaker 2: guy who fantasized about putting bullets in the head of
Speaker 2: the then Republican Speaker of the House in the Commonwealth.
Speaker 2: He was leading by a slim margin earlier, but a
Speaker 2: split ticket in what is usually fairly blue Virginia. It
Speaker 2: may it may happen that that race has not been called.
Speaker 2: As far as I know, the Attorney General's race with
Speaker 2: Jay Jones, I don't.
Speaker 8: I do not think it has. I've been following a
Speaker 8: couple of these races and I don't think that one
Speaker 8: has been been called yet.
Speaker 2: Who fantasized about putting ahead in mister Gilbert h putting
Speaker 2: bullets in mister Gilbert's head and then having his children
Speaker 2: die in their mother's arms as she wept. This is something.
Speaker 2: This is someone that people in Virginia, you know, still
Speaker 2: feel inclined to vote for.
Speaker 8: That really doesn't fit very well on a bumper sticker.
Speaker 8: You're right about you gotta that's a lot of words.
Speaker 8: You gotta know how you put that on a bumper
Speaker 8: stick right?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 8: Yard sign maybe you know, But yeah, that's still just
Speaker 8: a lot of ready to do.
Speaker 2: Oh God, who was a comedian who used to say
Speaker 2: I'll kill you a million times?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 2: It's maybe maybe that's what he should have on his
Speaker 2: bumper sticker. Jay Jones in Virginia. You had some Dick's
Speaker 2: Dick Cheney stories you wanted to share, and and I
Speaker 2: think it would be an appropriate time post mortem.
Speaker 8: Uh I got I got to tell you that there
Speaker 8: are a couple of times that with candidates that I
Speaker 8: was working with are helping out or doing other things,
Speaker 8: Cheney would come in and do these various uh you
Speaker 8: know new fundraiser that was a big deal. I mean
Speaker 8: you getting the vice president to come into things. And
Speaker 8: my favorite one actually, and my my wife and I
Speaker 8: were laughing about this today because we when we when
Speaker 8: we saw this. One of the things you do when
Speaker 8: you when you get to the point of of having
Speaker 8: somebody like that come in for a fundraiser, one of
Speaker 8: the things that's very important is you get a certain
Speaker 8: number of pictures. So when there's a line coming in,
Speaker 8: you know, and you know you got people lined up,
Speaker 8: you may get and fifty clicks and if you're fifty one,
Speaker 8: you don't get a click. Doesn't matter who you are.
Speaker 8: I saw Stan Airnoff turned away one time in the
Speaker 8: air and off building. Whoa he And it's funny he
Speaker 8: looked at the secret third and he goes, you know
Speaker 8: how I am and the guy said Cigaret Thursday. He said, yes, sir,
Speaker 8: you're the first person in the line that's not going
Speaker 8: to get a picture with the vice president. But we
Speaker 8: had this fundraiser coming in and one thing do you
Speaker 8: do when you get these photo lines is you put
Speaker 8: somebody at click zero you get the first picture, which
Speaker 8: when we would run these for buddy and it would
Speaker 8: be my wife, and then we would put somebody at
Speaker 8: the back of the line for click number whatever number
Speaker 8: we were arrest allowed. So Linda is sitting there, and
Speaker 8: what is it interesting in this particular fundraiser is that
Speaker 8: Lynn Cheney came to northern Kentucky as well because she
Speaker 8: hadn't seen her husband for a while. He had been
Speaker 8: on the road of campaigns. So they were meeting in Cincinnati,
Speaker 8: spend him a couple of days. Here, she's clicked zero.
Speaker 8: She and Lynn Cheney hit it off together. They have
Speaker 8: a wonderful time. They're doing everything she's Lynn Cheney is
Speaker 8: telling her all about her husband, the vice president, everything else.
Speaker 8: He comes walking around the corner and she goes and Linda,
Speaker 8: this is my husband, my husband, the Vice President, Dick Cheney,
Speaker 8: And Linda reaches over with such excitement as having a
Speaker 8: Messa guy and haven't heard about she reaches around and HUNSI. Now,
Speaker 8: one thing you don't do is secret hers around. What
Speaker 8: happened what happened to your wife? Well, you know, you
Speaker 8: know after she was out of the hospital. No, seriously,
Speaker 8: the funny, the funny part of it was like Cheney's
Speaker 8: reaction was like, hey, hey, hey, que in contact. You know.
Speaker 3: So you never you never went hunting with Dick Cheney.
Speaker 8: No, I never went hunting with Dick Cheney. Always always
Speaker 8: stay away from that. I there there are things you
Speaker 8: things you do in politics and things you don't do,
Speaker 8: one of which is don't go bird hunting with Dick Chenning.
Speaker 8: That's a bad idea. What a love to gone fly
Speaker 8: fissuing with him though he was quite a fly fisher.
Speaker 2: I understand that, being from from Wyoming and all of that.
Speaker 2: A whole lot of that out there.
Speaker 3: Uh any other Cheney references? Uh, what's the news of
Speaker 3: his passage?
Speaker 8: That's the same event of Another funny story is that
Speaker 8: the influence of some people have is that everybody knew
Speaker 8: during that time frame the context that Carl Linder had
Speaker 8: with the Bush administration. And we're getting ready to put
Speaker 8: on that fundraiser, and I get a call from the gatekeeper.
Speaker 8: There was a person in ch in uh Carl Linder's
Speaker 8: office that literally was known as quote the gatekeeper.
Speaker 3: She calls me up and.
Speaker 8: She said, you know, you know, mister would like to
Speaker 8: come down and say hi the vice president. And I said,
Speaker 8: you know the routine. I'm going to tell the advanced
Speaker 8: guy what's going on, and he's not going to allow it.
Speaker 8: She said, yeah, but I'd like to try and get
Speaker 8: it through proper channels first and then I'll figure it out.
Speaker 8: So I walked over to the advanced guy and I said,
Speaker 8: you know, there's somebody that you know called him months
Speaker 8: to say hi the vice president of the courtesy. And
Speaker 8: he goes, Rick, you know, I did this all the
Speaker 8: time for the vice president, and every place I go,
Speaker 8: somebody's the vice president's best friend, and you know we
Speaker 8: can't let people back in the hallway to meet him
Speaker 8: without having being clared. And he guts you and I said,
Speaker 8: remember this conversation in fifteen minutes. Fifteen minutes later, the
Speaker 8: guy walks up to me and he goes, who the hell
Speaker 8: is Carl Linder? I said, why is that? He goes,
Speaker 8: I just got a phone call from the White House
Speaker 8: yelling at me what was I doing in so Carl
Speaker 8: Linder that I was to go out and find him
Speaker 8: at his Rolls Royce and escort him personally in the
Speaker 8: back room to say hi to Dick Cheney.
Speaker 5: Who the hell is this guy?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 8: Yeah, so you know it's that was one of the
Speaker 8: things I kind of you know, that was one of
Speaker 8: the proud moments where I guess, I'm looking at him,
Speaker 8: went told you.
Speaker 2: So, oh, so I will let you know that they
Speaker 2: just called the race for attorney general in Virginia and
Speaker 2: the guy who threatened to kill the Republican Speaker of
Speaker 2: the House actually won that race.
Speaker 3: That this is just amazing.
Speaker 8: Bumper stickers. It's on a bumper sticker. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 8: there were a bunch of things, and I, you know,
Speaker 8: on an election night, you and I always talk about this.
Speaker 8: You know, you you are so into the policy side.
Speaker 8: I am so into the political side, and I always
Speaker 8: like to give you the five things that I'm watching.
Speaker 3: Okay, on an election Yeah.
Speaker 8: Because you and I always disagree on on this stuff.
Speaker 8: You kind of look at me like, please don't tell
Speaker 8: me anything more about the horse race, all about the
Speaker 8: horse race. So you know, I'm watching right now looking
Speaker 8: up at the TV and seeing that Aftab has just
Speaker 8: given his his victory speech. But I ran across an
Speaker 8: interesting piece of polling this weekend and it was really
Speaker 8: interesting to me to look at this polling, and it
Speaker 8: particularly pertained to me to the Cincinnati City Council race.
Speaker 8: And the polling basically said, you know, we see all
Speaker 8: this stuff going right direction, wrong direction. Suddenly the wrong
Speaker 8: direction is taking over.
Speaker 3: Whose fault is that?
Speaker 8: You know, Democrats are blaming Republican Republicans are blaming Democrats.
Speaker 9: But if you dig down in this some of the
Speaker 9: polling data, what the other thing you found is Democrats
Speaker 9: are pissed at the Democrat leadership and Republicans are that
Speaker 9: the Republican leadership.
Speaker 8: Which brought me to Cincinnati City Council of going. I
Speaker 8: wonder how the Charter Rights will do.
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 8: Will they make any e dent into all of this?
Speaker 8: And you just told me that apparently that apparently not,
Speaker 8: which surprised me. I thought, you know, it, having such
Speaker 8: a background in Cincinnati at the Charter Right Party, that
Speaker 8: with the problems going on in the city, here's some
Speaker 8: people going out there.
Speaker 3: You know, you know Chris.
Speaker 8: Smitherman running as an independent. You know Steve Gooden, my
Speaker 8: my pal used to practice law with him. Uh, you
Speaker 8: know running as a charter right. I thought i'd have
Speaker 8: an impact. I really did. And obviously no change. It
Speaker 8: looks like in a city council.
Speaker 2: Well, the change has to come from the voter obviously, unless,
Speaker 2: as my friend Karin Clifford, who was on with me
Speaker 2: before the news breaks, as the voting machines have to
Speaker 2: be changed.
Speaker 3: But the change, you can't blame me.
Speaker 8: I disagree with her all that.
Speaker 2: I don't know why you disagree. I'm I'm all in
Speaker 2: favor of all paper ballots all the time, hand counted.
Speaker 8: With. All you have to do is look at one race,
Speaker 8: is get heady race and gets thrown in Kentucky, paper
Speaker 8: ballots are the downfall of them. They're the easiest going
Speaker 8: to pick the race. I will save that for another.
Speaker 8: We'll save that for another.
Speaker 2: But no, you have to blame ultimately the voters, I
Speaker 2: mean absolutely for not coming out number one. The turnout instance,
Speaker 2: I don't have an exact figure on the turnout in Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: but it usually is about twenty percent and that's you know,
Speaker 2: unless it's a presidential election, unless it's a national federal election,
Speaker 2: the president's on the ballot, then you have closer to
Speaker 2: forty to fifty percent turnout in Cincinnati. But for these
Speaker 2: races that should matter most to the local voter, they
Speaker 2: don't show up. Rick Only the partisans show up, the
Speaker 2: real partisan. But the average person, the average person whose
Speaker 2: life is going to be adversely or positively affected by
Speaker 2: the result.
Speaker 3: They don't show up.
Speaker 2: The guy who's working a job, who has a family,
Speaker 2: who is struggling to make ends meet, who's trying to
Speaker 2: just get home safely every night to his wife. And
Speaker 2: you know, they're just trying to get home to their families,
Speaker 2: men and women, and they see the carnage and the
Speaker 2: chaos every single day, and they want to change. Why
Speaker 2: don't they actively pursue change instead of sitting on their
Speaker 2: hands and ignoring it.
Speaker 8: There used to be a guy in northern Kentucky who
Speaker 8: was in the Republican Party who used to refer to
Speaker 8: it as the recalcitrant Republicans.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean Democrats, I mean even passive Democrats. Recalcitrant
Speaker 2: Democrats don't show up. If twenty percent is all that's
Speaker 2: turning out for a mayoral and city council race. That
Speaker 2: means Democrats are staying home too, because they know they
Speaker 2: got all of the diehards to carry their water for them,
Speaker 2: and they'll be happy with the result no matter who
Speaker 2: the person is, as long as there's a D in
Speaker 2: front of their name. I think it's ridiculous. Just real quickly,
Speaker 2: in the last few minutes, we've got rick other things.
Speaker 2: You said to watch.
Speaker 8: For other things. Everybody's talking about New York. Who cares
Speaker 8: it's New York. Put it to the side. It is
Speaker 8: interesting that he's talking big, big national issues in a
Speaker 8: local race. Better to watch as to what's going on
Speaker 8: with progressive mayor races. I look at Albuquerque mayor races.
Speaker 8: The progressive mayor all nonpartisan ballot come under fire in
Speaker 8: the last, uh, you know, several several years. Let's take
Speaker 8: a look at that see if in fact he can
Speaker 8: you know, I think he's gonna win reelection, but with
Speaker 8: what number crowded ballot. Certainly going to has the shot
Speaker 8: in the crowded ballot. But a much better race to
Speaker 8: look at on the progressive local level, uh than New
Speaker 8: York City. Virginia and California or Virginia New Jersey. The
Speaker 8: interesting thing that I'm seeing so far is that not
Speaker 8: necessarily that the Democrat won in those in those states.
Speaker 8: New Jersey is a is a D state that will
Speaker 8: occasionally go are in local races, but still a pretty
Speaker 8: strong D, say Virginia. The same thing what I'm seeing
Speaker 8: though early on, is that several counties flipped, especially in
Speaker 8: New Jersey. Now this is backed by a very weak
Speaker 8: comparison candidate because you're comparing it against the Harris campaign
Speaker 8: that although they won both of those states, did not
Speaker 8: win with the margins that they probably should have. But
Speaker 8: as you take a look at it, a lot of
Speaker 8: those counties are flipping, like to see what's going on there.
Speaker 8: And the final thing is the and I guess the
Speaker 8: thing that I'm not watching. I'm not watching proposition fifty.
Speaker 8: Why it's because it's a point in time in a month,
Speaker 8: it could be a different point in time, But it
Speaker 8: doesn't tell me anything about what's going to happen in
Speaker 8: the future voter turnout in anything.
Speaker 2: Okay, So even if the districts are in what Princeton
Speaker 2: called the worst jerrymandering ever done in the history of
Speaker 2: the country by their independent analysis of that that that's
Speaker 2: not a big deal.
Speaker 8: I'm against first off, I'm against all of the redistricting
Speaker 8: and the to to get advantages in the terms. I'm
Speaker 8: against it in Texas, I'm against it in California. I'm
Speaker 8: against it if they try and do it in Pennsylvania,
Speaker 8: you name it, where they're doing it. I'm against changing
Speaker 8: the rules in the middle of theutry. I think that's
Speaker 8: a bad policy. I think that's bad government. All right,
Speaker 8: But you know, California, it's the point of time for them.
Speaker 8: It has no indications as to where anything's going to
Speaker 8: go in the next in the next election.
Speaker 2: All right, Rick, thank you so much. It's uh, it's
Speaker 2: good to have a conversation with you again. It's good
Speaker 2: to have you on tonight. It's good to talk to
Speaker 2: you anytime. And uh, my best will wish is for
Speaker 2: your health and everything else that's going on.
Speaker 8: All right, bro oh, thanks, cal I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: You got it. Jim Ornacy will join us after the news,
Speaker 3: which is next. It is the night camp on election night.
Speaker 2: I'm seven under WLW all over but the shout and
Speaker 2: we're going to shout a little bit more between now
Speaker 2: and midnight still to come. The wild Man will join
Speaker 2: us and Andy Ferman next hour and at the top
Speaker 2: of this hour. I think it's important on election night
Speaker 2: to have somebody who's actually been personally individually a candidate,
Speaker 2: somebody who has skin in the game, Like we all
Speaker 2: don't have skin, and we're supposed to all have skin
Speaker 2: in the game. That's why we vote and turn out,
Speaker 2: if we actually vote and turn out. But as far
Speaker 2: as candidates go, this guy, our next guest, has been
Speaker 2: on both sides, the winning and the losing side. So
Speaker 2: to get some perspective on what both of those things
Speaker 2: are like an election night, let's talk to our friend
Speaker 2: Jim Renesi, who was a former congressman, businessman, and glad
Speaker 2: to call him my friend, at least for the purposes
Speaker 2: for this conversation. Anyway, mister Reneesi, how are you tonight?
Speaker 7: I'm good, I think gary better question is how are
Speaker 7: we all tonight? As we see a lot of things
Speaker 7: happening across this country which aren't good for Republicans, that's
Speaker 7: for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if they're not good for Republicans,
Speaker 2: I kind of tend to disagree with them being bad
Speaker 2: for Republicans necessarily in the places where you expect Democrats
Speaker 2: to prevail, and those places were all the signature races
Speaker 2: that turned out well for the Blue people. And so
Speaker 2: I don't know how necessarily damaging this is for Republicans.
Speaker 2: You have a different opinion, obviously, tell me why it's
Speaker 2: just terrible for Republicans that in blue states like New Jersey, Virginia,
Speaker 2: and the bluest of the blue metropolis is New York City,
Speaker 2: that a Democrat or a Democrat socialist winning is necessarily
Speaker 2: bad for the Republicans as a whole.
Speaker 7: Well, see, I think those are the key races. But
Speaker 7: I think if you look across the country, which I've
Speaker 7: been trying to do, and even local races. I mean,
Speaker 7: I'll give you example. In Wadsworth, Ohio, Yeah, the town
Speaker 7: I live in, three Republicans were defeated by three Democrats
Speaker 7: on city council. One Democrat nobody even knows who he is.
Speaker 7: All he did was sign a petition never was seen.
Speaker 7: So what that tells me on local elections, especially something
Speaker 7: like that is people the Democrats were more engaged, Republicans
Speaker 7: were more laxa daisical, which that's always what happens to
Speaker 7: voter turnout is very low across the state of Ohio,
Speaker 7: which is a whole other issue. And you know, I
Speaker 7: think Republican enthusiasm was missing. Yeah, these these Democrats were
Speaker 7: expected to win, but the margins also were pretty strong.
Speaker 7: I mean, fifty six to forty three on the Virginia
Speaker 7: governor's race. And let's not forget that Virginia was a
Speaker 7: Republican governor. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know what's also curious to me is in the
Speaker 2: polls previous two election day in Virginia, fifty seven percent
Speaker 2: of those polled approved of Glenn Youngkin's job as governor.
Speaker 2: Virginia has you can only serve one term at a
Speaker 2: time in the Commonwealth of Virginia. So he wasn't termed out,
Speaker 2: Younkin wasn't He just couldn't run again because he served
Speaker 2: his term. I guess he could come back for another
Speaker 2: bite at the apple in four years if that's what
Speaker 2: he wanted to do. But people were generally very happy
Speaker 2: with the job he was doing his governor, which that's
Speaker 2: a curious thing to me.
Speaker 7: Well exactly, and I think that's that's probably from a
Speaker 7: national perspective, that's the one race that is probably more.
Speaker 7: It should be more concerning for Republicans. But again, look
Speaker 7: at the numbers. That's what's scary. The Virginia governor fifty
Speaker 7: six forty two. I mean, these numbers, the lieutenant governor
Speaker 7: fifty five forty four. These are not close races. And
Speaker 7: yeah they're blues, they're blue states, but they were blue
Speaker 7: states with a red governor. So that's uh, that's that
Speaker 7: should be concerning. And the attorney general, the Republican attorney
Speaker 7: general who everybody said was doing well, Jason my h.
Speaker 2: Jason Myers lost to Jay Jones, a guy who, uh,
Speaker 2: in any kind of right thinking society, would have had
Speaker 2: absolutely no shot to be the top law enforcement officer
Speaker 2: in the state. After threatening or fantasizing about putting a
Speaker 2: bullet in the Republican Speaker of the House's head famously
Speaker 2: or infamously, and watching fantasizing about watching his children die
Speaker 2: in their mother's arms, and this guy got elected to
Speaker 2: the position. I find that just shocking.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I think we're going to see that. I
Speaker 7: do think there is a you know, it happens, it
Speaker 7: always happens on the midterms after a Republican or Democrat
Speaker 7: wins the presidency. I mean, Republicans have to get engaged.
Speaker 7: I hope this is a wake up call. But like
Speaker 7: I said, I think what we're going to find across
Speaker 7: the country is that we're going to see a little
Speaker 7: bit of a minor Democrat wave on the local races.
Speaker 7: Even your even your Cincinnati mayor's race didn't appear to
Speaker 7: be very close at all either. So again, you start
Speaker 7: putting all these pieces together. Yes these are blue areas,
Speaker 7: Yes these are blue counties, Yes these are blue states.
Speaker 7: But you know, we've got we've got a Republican House,
Speaker 7: or Republican Senate, a Republican House of representative, Republican president.
Speaker 7: You would think there'd be a little wind behind the
Speaker 7: cells to at least keep these things a little closer,
Speaker 7: and they weren't. So that's the concern I have. But
Speaker 7: I really the big concern is turnout, turnout, turnout. I
Speaker 7: think what we're going to find, you know, yeah, in
Speaker 7: Ohio it's going to you know, four years ago it
Speaker 7: was a kneemic, and I think what we're going to
Speaker 7: find in looking at these races, it's even worse. I mean,
Speaker 7: turnout was up here in Northeast Ohio was about a
Speaker 7: half of it was two of what it was two
Speaker 7: years ago, and two years ago it was a name,
Speaker 7: so people did not go out and vote. And when
Speaker 7: that happens, whoever, who whatever team gets the most voters
Speaker 7: out wins. And I think that's that's a little bit
Speaker 7: of the concern I have as well.
Speaker 2: You say two years ago, but I mean last year.
Speaker 2: Obviously in the national election, we had major turnouts in
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and many places around the country. But you can't
Speaker 2: just turn out for the presidential elections. You have to
Speaker 2: show up all the time. And you're right about the
Speaker 2: apathy of Republicans seemingly dominating this particular particular off year election.
Speaker 2: These are these aren't even the midterms, and like you said,
Speaker 2: maybe this is the wake up call so there's not
Speaker 2: a blue wave next November and everything switches over in
Speaker 2: the House, in the Senate. I think that the Democrats
Speaker 2: haven't done themselves any favor with this continuing government shutdown.
Speaker 2: And you told me a month ago that or almost
Speaker 2: a month ago, that the Democrats were winning the messaging
Speaker 2: on the government shutdown. I don't believe that's the case certainly, now,
Speaker 2: do you still?
Speaker 7: All I can tell you is the polling still shows
Speaker 7: a larger number blame the Republicans and Donald Trump. Then
Speaker 7: they blamed Democrats. Now it's close, but it's you know,
Speaker 7: it's like fifty five percent blame Republicans and Donald Trump
Speaker 7: and four forty three percent blame Democrats. So I think
Speaker 7: in the end it's leaning more to blaming Republicans. But
Speaker 7: here's what'll be interesting, and I've been saying this in
Speaker 7: some of my other appearances on radio and even my commentary.
Speaker 7: Today will mark the day that Republicans and Democrats come
Speaker 7: back and they will reopen this government. My opinion is
Speaker 7: very quickly. They wanted to see Many people wanted to
Speaker 7: see what happened with these elections. But now that this
Speaker 7: election's over, there's not much to talk about except getting
Speaker 7: back to work. And I'm hoping that we see an agreement.
Speaker 7: I see Republicans and Democrats are working together in the Senate.
Speaker 7: I'm hoping we can get this government open, because the
Speaker 7: longer it stays close, I'm telling you, the people who
Speaker 7: get the mass or the independence, and we did talk
Speaker 7: about this and the Independence are blaming Republicans right now
Speaker 7: more than they're blaming Democrats.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: I'm amazed that somebody who calls himself an independent is
Speaker 2: that misinformed of facts? Because when you see the Democrats continuing,
Speaker 2: people like Schumer continually time after time saying we can't
Speaker 2: shut the government down and then does it because he's
Speaker 2: afraid he's going to get more flack that he got
Speaker 2: last March when he agreed to keep the government open
Speaker 2: from the far left wing of his party. And do
Speaker 2: you think that Mandani signals the fact that the Democrat
Speaker 2: Party is being taken over by Democrats socialists or communists.
Speaker 2: Many people are pointing to that, and I think it's
Speaker 2: a real distinct possibility with the popularity of the squad
Speaker 2: and everything else that we've seen in the Democrat Party
Speaker 2: over the last five to six years, maybe longer than that,
Speaker 2: that they lean continually more and more socialist.
Speaker 7: Well, I think that the polling that I've seen shows
Speaker 7: that most people in New York City just wanted somebody different.
Speaker 7: He is definitely different. And I have also seen polling
Speaker 7: across this country that shows most people want outsiders, somebody
Speaker 7: that is not known. You know. He fit into that
Speaker 7: category as well. So I think you're going to see
Speaker 7: more and more of that across the country. People are
Speaker 7: fed up. I mean, let's face it, I think the
Speaker 7: majority of Americans are fed up with their federal government,
Speaker 7: their state government, their city governments, and they're looking for
Speaker 7: a fresh face, a new face, a likable face. And
Speaker 7: he just seemed to fit the bill, even though he
Speaker 7: is a Democrat socialist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he is.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you talk about controlling the means of production,
Speaker 2: that's communism, Jim, no matter what he calls himself, that
Speaker 2: is flat out communism. I heard somebody else talking about
Speaker 2: being in the old Soviet Union back when and drop
Speaker 2: Off was then the president of the USSR, who of
Speaker 2: course was formerly with the KGB like Putin today, and
Speaker 2: talking about how the constant rationing because you know, it's
Speaker 2: a worker's paradise every you know, it was five cents
Speaker 2: or whatever to to grab a ride on the metro
Speaker 2: in Moscow, but if you wanted a pair of shoes
Speaker 2: or clothes, they would do these big drop offs in
Speaker 2: the middle of the marketplace, and there was no accounting
Speaker 2: for size, there was no selection. There was nothing that
Speaker 2: we have in this country or in free trade or
Speaker 2: free enterprise capitalist countries where you have a selection of anything.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like ma'am Donnie's talking about these government
Speaker 2: grocery stores in New York City and everywhere those have
Speaker 2: been in the United States have failed miserably. But people
Speaker 2: just here free and they think that that's freedom. And
Speaker 2: that's I think a part of the education that needs
Speaker 2: to go on for the electorate in this country to
Speaker 2: make especially younger voters a gen Z voters, understanding that
Speaker 2: free stuff is not freedom. There is a distinct difference,
Speaker 2: don't you think.
Speaker 7: Well, absolutely, and you and I can agree on that
Speaker 7: all we want. The problem is is you just said
Speaker 7: that the gen Z's don't see it that way. They
Speaker 7: don't see the opportunity for the American dream. They don't
Speaker 7: see this quick road to success. And of course their
Speaker 7: roads to success normally is they want to do it
Speaker 7: in two or three years. I kind of wish I
Speaker 7: could have done it in two or three years, but
Speaker 7: it just didn't work out that way. But in the end,
Speaker 7: I think we're all going to learn some lessons and
Speaker 7: there will be ups and downs, and you know, it's
Speaker 7: the cycles of elections that we seem to continue to
Speaker 7: have the only thing that concerns me more. And by
Speaker 7: the way, I do believe that happened tonight across the country.
Speaker 7: I think there was a lot more younger voters got
Speaker 7: out and voted as well. You've got to remember many
Speaker 7: of those voted for Donald Trump. So lots of things
Speaker 7: to look at. Even though this is not a midterm election,
Speaker 7: that should give pause to Republicans and again we should
Speaker 7: have learned from it, uh one year to get prepared
Speaker 7: for the midterms.
Speaker 2: In New York City and many other of these Democrat enclaves. Jim,
Speaker 2: you don't have to show an ID to vote. Oh yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I agree, and you know that that's something that needs
Speaker 2: to be corrected on a national scale.
Speaker 7: Somehow, New York has is a world in itself, and
Speaker 7: let's face it, they have not had the most conservative
Speaker 7: Republican mayors. Of course, this is an extreme one here,
Speaker 7: but it's one of the reasons why corporate America quite frankly,
Speaker 7: has moved out of New York and New York City.
Speaker 7: And I think what we're finding is Dallas, Texas is
Speaker 7: becoming the new capital of uh, you know, marketplace and
Speaker 7: world in New York and I'm sorry, United States businesses
Speaker 7: or moving to Dallas, Texas, so we may see more
Speaker 7: of that as well.
Speaker 2: Oh, and if you were in New York, wouldn't would
Speaker 2: you want to have keep your business there?
Speaker 7: No, I'd rather go to Dallas. And I think that's
Speaker 7: As I travel to Dallas, I find that Dallas is
Speaker 7: more of the business capital of the United States now,
Speaker 7: and I think a lot of it is because of
Speaker 7: who they are electing in New York City. But again,
Speaker 7: I see this as a little bit of a wake
Speaker 7: up call. I hope Republicans realize that they cannot be anemic.
Speaker 7: They have to get out and vote. I don't think
Speaker 7: it would have changed things in New York City, but
Speaker 7: I'm telling you of the other states, I think it
Speaker 7: would have been a little bit closer than it ended
Speaker 7: up being.
Speaker 2: All Right, Jim Ornecy, thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 2: As always, my friend, and I really do appreciate you
Speaker 2: being on with me.
Speaker 7: Oh problem, Thank you you having good evening.
Speaker 3: Hey you two sir.
Speaker 2: After the news break, we'll have open phones, and I
Speaker 2: have some thoughts about stuff that's more important than elections.
Speaker 2: Phone lines open on this Tuesday evening nightcap on election day,
Speaker 2: Gary jeffwin by one three seven, four nine hundred d
Speaker 2: Big one numbers haven't changed the callers have over the years.
Speaker 3: I remember a time.
Speaker 2: When if you took a call, somebody was number one
Speaker 2: ready to go on the air because they had something
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 3: They thought it was important that.
Speaker 2: They had their voice heard, either agreeing with the host
Speaker 2: or disagreeing with the host, or just maybe something else
Speaker 2: they wanted to interject. And I would welcome any of those.
Speaker 2: But today we have callers like Frank. I don't know Frank.
Speaker 2: Frank's said he was from Western Hills, and you never know.
Speaker 2: But Frank didn't want to go on the air, which
Speaker 2: is kind of curious. Why would he call the line
Speaker 2: if you don't want to go on the air. That's
Speaker 2: the whole point of having a talk line. So the
Speaker 2: forum is open for you so you can express something
Speaker 2: that you think is in put. You're listening and you
Speaker 2: want to participate. You want to add your voice to
Speaker 2: the chorus or to the descent. No, Frank, and that's fine.
Speaker 2: If you don't want to go on the air, they
Speaker 2: don't call. But he did have a question for me,
Speaker 2: and I guess I'll address it. Since Frank didn't stay
Speaker 2: on the line and didn't want to go on the air,
Speaker 2: what will New York city be like under Muslim law
Speaker 2: or Sharia law. Well, that's certainly not anything ma'am Donnie
Speaker 2: has directly said, because that would scare the bejeebers out
Speaker 2: of people, even in New York City, if they thought
Speaker 2: there was a possibility, If you thought there was a
Speaker 2: possibility of Sharia law being implemented in our biggest city. Amazing,
Speaker 2: But I guess anything is possible when you have a
Speaker 2: Democrat socialist who was not born in this country, who
Speaker 2: is Islamic, and you wonder about those big enclaves of
Speaker 2: Islamic populations elsewhere in the United States. And of course
Speaker 2: it's happened in other countries. It's happened in London, England,
Speaker 2: It's happened other places that you normally would not think
Speaker 2: would be subject to Sharia law necessarily. But we live
Speaker 2: in a country that is ruled I thought, by the
Speaker 2: rule of law, i e. The Constitution of the United States,
Speaker 2: not Islam or you know where there are honor killings. Well,
Speaker 2: I tell you what. The Queers for Palestine movement during
Speaker 2: all of that Rigamaro and colleges across the country, the
Speaker 2: anti Semitic protest, the Queers for Palestine always amazed me,
Speaker 2: because if the Queers were in Palestine, they wouldn't be
Speaker 2: living long. Don in Newport is on the line, Don, Hello,
Speaker 2: how are you this evening?
Speaker 3: That good?
Speaker 8: I like that?
Speaker 10: That was awesome. So yeah, Gary, I just can't believe
Speaker 10: live on the in Newport, very close Cincinnati, and we
Speaker 10: like to go to the family markets, you know, on Sundays.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was there.
Speaker 8: There are a lot of.
Speaker 10: Bears fans there that were that were there, and I
Speaker 10: think I don't think I was home for more than
Speaker 10: a few hours. And I think four people shot or
Speaker 10: four different shootings right right in there. Didn't that happen
Speaker 10: like last Sunday?
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, that that'll make somebody from Chicago,
Speaker 2: I guess feel right at home.
Speaker 7: Well that's true, that's true.
Speaker 10: Maybe maybe they maybe they brought they brought it with him.
Speaker 10: But I mean, it's just how can you possibly explain,
Speaker 10: help me understand how it's possible that people living in
Speaker 10: Cincinnati can think that this is okay?
Speaker 2: Well, what's amazing for me, Don, is that right across
Speaker 2: that little expanse of river things, it's it's a night
Speaker 2: and day difference. In northern Kentucky for the most part.
Speaker 10: Rob Sanders was you know, I listened to him with
Speaker 10: Willie all the time. Yeah, it's a different It's like
Speaker 10: it's like two different country, you know, North Korea, South Korea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: Don in that short short period of time, you just
Speaker 2: go across the bridge and it's like you're in a
Speaker 2: different country almost.
Speaker 10: Well, you know they were, they were so offended and
Speaker 10: just taking it back. They I couldn't believe that when
Speaker 10: the people stormed the suspension bridge and blocked traffic, the
Speaker 10: officers actually did what they're supposed to do. Yes, I know,
Speaker 10: you know they I mean they beat it, you know
Speaker 10: they it looked like it looked like something if you
Speaker 10: were to see it on tape. Hey, that's police brutality,
Speaker 10: you know, like in Cincinnati, probably the cops would be
Speaker 10: going to jail instead of the people that were causing
Speaker 10: the problem.
Speaker 2: Well, and as Rob Sanders said in the aftermath of that,
Speaker 2: done keep that on the north side of the river.
Speaker 3: Right right.
Speaker 10: It's just hard to believe.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you something. I moved to Cincinnati in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety four and moved up from Middle Tennessee in the
Speaker 2: early nineties. Moved from Cincinnati in nineteen ninety four, and
Speaker 2: then I moved across the river. I lived in Cincinnati
Speaker 2: for six years. I moved across the river to Newport
Speaker 2: in March of two thousand and I've never looked back,
Speaker 2: and I was just amazed then at the change over,
Speaker 2: just you know, a quarter of a mile across that
Speaker 2: that span of water, and it was amazing to me.
Speaker 3: I instantly felt at home.
Speaker 2: I felt more safe, I felt more welcome, and and
Speaker 2: I'm in basically I'm in the same city, but I'm not. Uh,
Speaker 2: listen and enjoy enjoy your trips to Finley. I hope
Speaker 2: you still can, and I hope you and your wife
Speaker 2: and others are safe when they come over to downtown Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: I generally am not doing anything in Cincinnati, but driving
Speaker 2: through it up to Kenwood, that's just me.
Speaker 10: Well, well it's you know insandly I think it's gonna
Speaker 10: be one by one again where the you know, the
Speaker 10: businesses leave. I I do a little bit of a
Speaker 10: screen printing and laser engraving with some hats and I had,
Speaker 10: you know, make Cincinnati safe again with the skyline in
Speaker 10: the back and makes it say great again, because really,
Speaker 10: there was a time when it was.
Speaker 8: I mean, look back to Charlie lucandas.
Speaker 3: Oh no, it it is such.
Speaker 2: It's full of really wonderful people overall, and and it
Speaker 2: has so much to offer. It's it's sad that it's
Speaker 2: being so poorly mismanaged in my opinion. Thanks for the
Speaker 2: phone call. Don go to jam and Amelia Amelia. Does
Speaker 2: Amelia actually exist?
Speaker 8: Jim?
Speaker 11: Well, the village doesn't, but Amelia does.
Speaker 2: In your heart, Amelia exists anyway. What's on your mind?
Speaker 3: Jim?
Speaker 11: Well, first of all, you know, I voted an Amelia
Speaker 11: for this for the cops and the mts in the
Speaker 11: mental health thing, and I think that was a good thing. Well,
Speaker 11: what I want to know is, like from the left
Speaker 11: and the right, who decided that you have to put
Speaker 11: your headphones on the left side or the right side?
Speaker 11: Can you reverse your headphones? So it sounds really good
Speaker 11: if you reverse right and left. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure I do understand what you're saying,
Speaker 2: but please continue. It's interesting at least even if I
Speaker 2: don't understand what you're saying. So you're telling me that
Speaker 2: I can take my headphones off and flip them over
Speaker 2: to the other side, and it's going to be just
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 11: Well, I think it does, because, like I don't understand
Speaker 11: who decided that my headphones had to be on the
Speaker 11: left side on the right side. Why can't I reverse them?
Speaker 11: I don't understand that. Who decided?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 2: You know what, Jim, I think you do what you
Speaker 2: want to do in the privacy of your own home.
Speaker 2: If they're your headphones and you're you're listening to your
Speaker 2: headphones by yourself, you you do whatever you want to do.
Speaker 11: Okay, I just I just didn't know if you knew
Speaker 11: who told you know you're going to put it on
Speaker 11: the left side on the right side. I don't I
Speaker 11: don't get that.
Speaker 2: Did it make a difference, Well, there is a left
Speaker 2: channel and there is a right channel. If you're listening
Speaker 2: to something in stereo, if you're listening in mono, it
Speaker 2: makes absolutely no difference. Jim, thank you for calling, Raphael
Speaker 2: and bond Hill. Good evening, sir, Good evening, Gary.
Speaker 7: Jim.
Speaker 6: A few moments ago, I think you were talking about
Speaker 6: Mondamine up there in New York in the election. You
Speaker 6: mentioned some things about sharia law that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Actually another listener had asked what New York City
Speaker 2: is going to be like under sharia law.
Speaker 3: And I said, well, and I heard that, Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: that's the only thing.
Speaker 8: I mean.
Speaker 2: In fact, that is not it shouldn't be possible in
Speaker 2: the United States of America because we're all under constitutional law,
Speaker 2: not sharia law.
Speaker 6: Now does that And that's what I was going to
Speaker 6: chime in on specifically. And in the United States, the
Speaker 6: Constitution is that the end all be all.
Speaker 3: Yes, it is. It's the law of the land.
Speaker 2: That's what sets us apart from other countries that have
Speaker 2: constitutions in paper, but they don't mean anything from one
Speaker 2: regime change to the next. In our country, we're consistently
Speaker 2: under the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, and it
Speaker 2: was written not for groups of people, but for the individual.
Speaker 6: And does that Constitution apply to someone in the White
Speaker 6: House blowing up fishing boats off the coast of Venezuela
Speaker 6: without notifying Congress of that actions, or providing proof to
Speaker 6: good old Americans like you and.
Speaker 2: I, or sending missiles and bombs as President Obama did
Speaker 2: and President Biden have to other foreign countries without permission
Speaker 2: from Congress. The president does have certain executive authority powers
Speaker 2: that do include occasionally and sad as it has to
Speaker 2: be the case of taking care of threats to the
Speaker 2: United States of America. That is his, that is his
Speaker 2: his charge, his commander in chief. Sometimes you take you
Speaker 2: that's not an active war necessarily, it's an act of
Speaker 2: protective safety for a country. If he, if the president
Speaker 2: or the commander in chief believes that those drug boats
Speaker 2: are an immediate threat to the United States, Yes, he
Speaker 2: does have that power.
Speaker 6: How many of those boats have reached the United States
Speaker 6: prior to being blown up?
Speaker 3: I have no idea, hopefully none.
Speaker 6: Should he should he have ideal and present it to
Speaker 6: American people.
Speaker 2: Well, I think would be a fantastic thing if the
Speaker 2: American people were all together and the Congress actually wasn't
Speaker 2: so divided that they would uh, they would agree with
Speaker 2: the commander in chief that those things are a threat,
Speaker 2: those emanating from Venezuela and Colombia, the drug cartels are
Speaker 2: a h what is it? An immediate and a clear
Speaker 2: and present danger to the country. I wish Congress would
Speaker 2: get on board. Yeah, sure, it'd be great.
Speaker 6: It would be amazing if that clear and imminent, immediate
Speaker 6: danger would be Hey, if he believes, isn't it so much.
Speaker 7: Just present your evidence.
Speaker 6: But then again, I'm just gonna call BF owner Jerry Garrett, Jeff,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 2: No, and and and you're entitled to your opinion. I
Speaker 2: gave you mine, right and I think and and not
Speaker 2: everything I don't rubber stamp is as good everything this
Speaker 2: president or any president does, Raphael, I will differ with
Speaker 2: them on policy issues right and left, but I happen
Speaker 2: to agree that the threat of fentanyl and the drug
Speaker 2: cartels that have been controlling these other countries and have
Speaker 2: thought that they had control of our border, which they
Speaker 2: did under four years of Joe Biden, It's time that
Speaker 2: they learn a lesson. They're not in control of our border.
Speaker 2: We are not Mexico or Venezuela or anybody else.
Speaker 6: Well that fentanyl. Is it true that more final comes
Speaker 6: across the border.
Speaker 3: Of Canada and they are interdicting that too.
Speaker 2: They just haven't had to blow up any they haven't
Speaker 2: had to blow up any dog sleds.
Speaker 6: Yet, right there, right And in China, you know, we
Speaker 6: hear talk about China and the fittanaff. I guess with
Speaker 6: the knife hand in hand relationship with President Prime Minister
Speaker 6: President g I guess that Pittona thing kind of just
Speaker 6: in the Chinese that goes on excuse I guess.
Speaker 2: It absolutely was not excused, and it absolutely was talked
Speaker 2: about in the latest summit in South Korea.
Speaker 3: Apparently you didn't hear that part what.
Speaker 6: Was said during that summit about fantanaff.
Speaker 2: Well, I wasn't there, but I know that everyone who
Speaker 2: was said that fentanyl was addressed with g when President
Speaker 2: Trump met with him.
Speaker 6: And should the American people be made privy of what
Speaker 6: was talked about in specifics, maybe about fentanyl since it's
Speaker 6: killing so me Americans from China.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I don't think that the president
Speaker 2: has the has the the charge of telling everything that
Speaker 2: he taught talks about to world leaders, to the public
Speaker 2: at large, or to our.
Speaker 3: Enemies or to the press. Raphael.
Speaker 2: There are certain things that, yeah, we don't need to
Speaker 2: know at the time. I appreciate your phone call, and
Speaker 2: I see where you're coming from. I don't believe that
Speaker 2: President Trump has to tell you everything he's going to
Speaker 2: do before he does it. I think that's been done
Speaker 2: way too often in American diplomacy with our enemies and
Speaker 2: our foes around the world and our friends. Even now
Speaker 2: is there somebody else that wants to get in real quick?
Speaker 2: Nick on the West side, we're running out of time
Speaker 2: in this half hour. I will tell you this. The
Speaker 2: election in Cincinnati is over. The races in Virginia, New Jersey,
Speaker 2: and New York City have been called. If you're a
Speaker 2: Republican or you care about things from a conservative point
Speaker 2: of view, not a good night, no question about that.
Speaker 3: But these are isolated cases.
Speaker 2: The most important thing you can do as a citizen
Speaker 2: of this country, and when you have the opportunity to do,
Speaker 2: is let your voice be heard. Whether you agree with
Speaker 2: the current administration or disagree with the current administration, whether
Speaker 2: you want change or you want the status quo. When
Speaker 2: you have the opportunity, you've got to go out and
Speaker 2: vote and let your voice be heard. Whether you're me
Speaker 2: or Raphael or Jim from Amelia who can't decide which
Speaker 2: side of the headphones he's going to listen on. When
Speaker 2: you have the chance to let your voice be heard,
Speaker 2: you got to shout it from the rooftops. Because we
Speaker 2: have that ability in this country. A lot of other
Speaker 2: places like Venezuela or Cuba or Communist China, they don't.
Speaker 3: We do. We're so blessed by God.
Speaker 2: The wild Man on the other side of news eleven
Speaker 2: o'clock and the four ball will join us before we're
Speaker 2: done tonight.
Speaker 3: Thanks for tuning in.
Speaker 2: And tune yet another hour of his Election Night Night
Speaker 2: tab Gary Jeff Walker's we get into the dregs of
Speaker 2: the jay into our final hour. I thought we would
Speaker 2: take a break from some of the election coverage because
Speaker 2: everything is all but decided. News will keep you update
Speaker 2: on any last second results that we get. It's been
Speaker 2: a huge news day obviously, with the ups plane crash
Speaker 2: in Louisville. Three dead, they are eleven injured, and just
Speaker 2: a fiery ball of well you probably have seen it
Speaker 2: by now. I was shocked, as most people were, as
Speaker 2: the plane didn't even make it off the runway in
Speaker 2: Louisville at Maammad Ali International. And then of course elections
Speaker 2: around the country including Virginia, New Jersey, New York City
Speaker 2: which is now a full blown communist state, and the
Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati probably not too far behind. But with
Speaker 2: that being said, how about an hour of sports for
Speaker 2: the out of sorts?
Speaker 3: And this guy is always.
Speaker 2: Ready to sort out how out of sorts he really
Speaker 2: is about any number of topics we bring back in
Speaker 2: the sports commando the one and only wild Man Walker.
Speaker 3: Hello, wild Man, how are you?
Speaker 12: I'm doing good, Gary, Jeff. I did my part today
Speaker 12: as a outstanding citizen and voted.
Speaker 3: See, I didn't know you lived.
Speaker 2: I didn't know you lived in the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: I thought you lived over on the east side, maybe
Speaker 2: in Andrewson or side.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I lived technically right on the verge you know,
Speaker 12: of Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: So yes, So did you vote? I legally? Then vote?
Speaker 3: Did you vote legally?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm voted legally. Vote legal.
Speaker 2: It's it's supposed to be a private, a secret ballot.
Speaker 2: But who'd you vote for for mayor?
Speaker 12: I'm not going to tell you, But do you think
Speaker 12: I would vote for mayor? Who would you think I
Speaker 12: would vote for mayor? Well, my guests, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: My guests would be probably not have to have pr vall.
Speaker 3: My guest would be got that.
Speaker 12: Talk about it clueless. We out a touch persons.
Speaker 2: As opposed to a son of God and a pastor
Speaker 2: named Corey Bowman, who I have supported the entire time.
Speaker 2: That the thing is, if the city of Cincinnati cannot
Speaker 2: turn out in an so called off your election for
Speaker 2: the most important position in the city of Cincinnati, the mayor.
Speaker 2: When public safety is the primary issue along a course
Speaker 2: with public services and protecting people, If they cannot understand
Speaker 2: that it's time for a change, then I don't know
Speaker 2: what what's happening.
Speaker 3: I just threw up my hands.
Speaker 12: I threw up my hands, and they, like you just said,
Speaker 12: they don't understand it's time for a change or something wrong.
Speaker 3: I mean, how dumb can you be? How dumb can
Speaker 3: you be?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 7: Move on?
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let's move on.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about some sports stuff here in our last
Speaker 2: hour tonight, wild Man first and foremost, I want to
Speaker 2: get your take on the World Series just concluded this
Speaker 2: past weekend. Of course, been a few days now that
Speaker 2: had the parade in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: I guess yesterday, Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: The victory parade and Magic Johnson's happy. The Dodgers again,
Speaker 2: literally the best team money can buy, have purchased themselves
Speaker 2: another World Series. Your thoughts as you look back on
Speaker 2: a seven game classic.
Speaker 12: It was a great World Series Game six and seven
Speaker 12: or one for the ages. The Blue Jays have nothing
Speaker 12: to be ashamed of. In fact, they're probably kicking themselves
Speaker 12: as they had a number of opportunities to win the
Speaker 12: World Series at play at home, where we'll Smith barely
Speaker 12: got his foot on the home on the plate when
Speaker 12: the runner was coming home.
Speaker 3: And I mean, you look at that, go back and
Speaker 3: look at it.
Speaker 12: If the guy would have had a better lead off
Speaker 12: third base, which I still don't understand, bad fundamentals right there,
Speaker 12: the Blue Jays would be celebrating to our third World
Speaker 12: Series title. Well, then let's give it Dodgers. Let's give
Speaker 12: it to him man, Dave Roberts. He made some great
Speaker 12: moves there. He put that out outfielder out in the
Speaker 12: centerfield pass past guy. I think at this tampascas something
Speaker 12: like that pet. They also brought in Ya Momoto.
Speaker 3: You know the pitch. I mean, he made some great moves.
Speaker 2: Well, and you know, y'a Momoto's pitching on twenty four
Speaker 2: not even twenty four hours, rest.
Speaker 3: Right right, pitching another classic in Game six. It was amazing.
Speaker 2: It was amazing, And there were two incredible plays at
Speaker 2: the plate by both teams in that last inning. I
Speaker 2: mean it was I couldn't believe, I said, didn't I
Speaker 2: just see this last inning?
Speaker 3: It happened to go what the hell?
Speaker 12: But the but the one for the Blue Jays, and
Speaker 12: the guy had a better leadoff third base because the
Speaker 12: third base wasn't guard named. If you go back and
Speaker 12: look at the film, he would have scored, he would
Speaker 12: have scored in the series, would have been and would
Speaker 12: have went to the Blue Jays.
Speaker 3: But it was a great World Series.
Speaker 2: It really was, no really, And it's the first time
Speaker 2: that I have actually watched and cared about a World
Speaker 2: Series in quite some time. And I wasn't disappointed on
Speaker 2: Saturday night. I was maybe disappointed by the ultimate outcome,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't disappointed with the entertainment value and the
Speaker 2: quality of play because it was top notchi. It was
Speaker 2: deserving of the last game of the season, there's no
Speaker 2: question about that.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 12: The only thing that disappointed me with the Dodgers winning
Speaker 12: the World Series. They finally broke the street that the
Speaker 12: Reds had being the last National League team that went
Speaker 12: back to back World Series in seventy five and seventy six.
Speaker 12: Before that, it was the twenty one to twenty two
Speaker 12: New York Giants, so that record had stood for a
Speaker 12: long time. Now the Dodgers have that record. I mean,
Speaker 12: they kept talking about it hadn't been done ten years.
Speaker 12: But if you go back to the National League and
Speaker 12: been done in seventy five seventy six, and that was
Speaker 12: the Reds.
Speaker 2: What about Terry Francona getting some postseason nods?
Speaker 3: Is you know?
Speaker 12: I like he has no chance. That goes to Pat Murphy.
Speaker 12: Pat Murphy hands down, Pat Murphy hands down.
Speaker 3: All right, But I mean it's still it's nice. And
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 12: The Brewers aren't messing around either, Gary jem I'll tell
Speaker 12: you right now. They've already said bye bye to Wilson Contreras,
Speaker 12: They've already said bye bye to Rhys Hoskins, and they've
Speaker 12: also said bye bye to Gwincna, the pitcher. So they
Speaker 12: got something going on. They got something going on up
Speaker 12: their sleeve that they're preparing for this season. They just
Speaker 12: slash some big time payroll there.
Speaker 2: Do the Reds have anything up their sleeves? Wild Man,
Speaker 2: that's the question.
Speaker 7: As of right now.
Speaker 12: I don't think they're going to go out and spend
Speaker 12: spend any big money, No doubt it.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: A lot of people have said this to me, and
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 12: I think the Reds out of trade Hunter Green his
Speaker 12: value has never been better. Hunter Green's never going to
Speaker 12: pitch a full season for us. Let's be honest with you.
Speaker 3: He hasn't yet and if he hasn't, he's not going to.
Speaker 12: But he would even bring the red something in value
Speaker 12: they have because they've got plenty of pitching now. The
Speaker 12: Reds are stepped, were stacked with starting pitching, and I
Speaker 12: would dangle out there, Hunter Green and see what they
Speaker 12: could possibly get. Well, here's here's a question. Let's switch sports,
Speaker 12: wild man.
Speaker 2: Do the Bengals ever get another full season out of
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow at quarterback?
Speaker 3: A lot of people have questioned this.
Speaker 12: Well, you know, Joe's had every injury known the man.
Speaker 12: I mean, that's just that he's just unfortunate. I mean,
Speaker 12: he didn't have any of those injuries in college. But
Speaker 12: a lot of goes back to the to the old
Speaker 12: line not protecting them. I mean, Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow
Speaker 12: is gonna play, and he's gonna play next year.
Speaker 3: He's not gonna play this year again.
Speaker 12: For the one million time, Garry Jeff, anybody thinks that
Speaker 12: Joe Burrow's gonna take a snap the rest of the
Speaker 12: season with this lost season or out of their mind,
Speaker 12: a turn too.
Speaker 3: Injury takes a year to rehab.
Speaker 12: If you don't believe me, go call Deon Sanders and
Speaker 12: ask him he had to retire early. He had a
Speaker 12: great career to retire early because of a turf toe injury.
Speaker 12: Joe is not taking a snap the rest of the year.
Speaker 12: And if you want to talk about the Bengals, Okay,
Speaker 12: they traded. They traded Logan Wilson, a linebacker. Would they
Speaker 12: get a seventh round draft pickles? They didn't get nothing.
Speaker 12: They really didn't get nothing. And Logan Wilson had fell
Speaker 12: out of favor with the with Al Golden and their
Speaker 12: defensive scheme, and that that's why that's.
Speaker 2: Why he wasn't That's why he wasn't playing. Trey Hendrickson
Speaker 2: is exactly. Trey Hendrickson isn't going anywhere. Were you surprised
Speaker 2: about that? I mean, they could have maybe gotten something
Speaker 2: for Trey.
Speaker 12: They maybe they could have got something for Tray, but
Speaker 12: I think they're they asking price is too high.
Speaker 3: I think they asking price is too high.
Speaker 12: And even if if he won't be here next year,
Speaker 12: but they'll get the draft pick for him, they be
Speaker 12: signed with somebody. So that's why they're holding that card back.
Speaker 12: They won't franchise tag him. No, they won't franchise tag him. No, No,
Speaker 12: I'd be very surprised, all right.
Speaker 2: So somebody sent me this on AX after Sunday's meltdown,
Speaker 2: a second melttown in a row where the Bengals should
Speaker 2: have won a game.
Speaker 3: And here it was the post on X from a friend. Today.
Speaker 2: The Bengals had kick off return for a touchdown, a block,
Speaker 2: field goal on sidekick recovery, five hundred yards of offense,
Speaker 2: two wide receivers with one hundred plus yards, fifteen points
Speaker 2: scored in less than a minute, forty two total points
Speaker 2: scored and lost.
Speaker 3: How does that happen? Well?
Speaker 12: What about the what about the dumb play lining up
Speaker 12: wrong on off side on the block on the field goal.
Speaker 3: That the that they that they missed?
Speaker 12: Yes, dj Ivory, how do you line up? How do
Speaker 12: you line up wrong? That cost the Bengals big time?
Speaker 12: That cost the Bengals big time. And of course I
Speaker 12: got to get this in here. The touchdown that won
Speaker 12: the game for the Bears. That receiver was wearing number
Speaker 12: eighty four, gets you war number eighty four for the Bengals.
Speaker 3: Bob Trumpy Bob Trump.
Speaker 12: He wore number eighty four here and Bob Trumpy, you know,
Speaker 12: had passed earlier in the day. I'm watching this guy,
Speaker 12: eighty four tight end catch the ball Peter Becas I'm
Speaker 12: going on.
Speaker 2: Was it the spirit of Bob Trumpy that caught that
Speaker 2: ball in the end zone against.
Speaker 3: The Bengals live? I think it might have been.
Speaker 12: And I'm really, I'm really, I'm really sad that that
Speaker 12: Bob Trumpy did not did not get the recognition that
Speaker 12: he really had deserved for being one of the best
Speaker 12: tight ends in Bengals history. There are two of the
Speaker 12: best tight ends in Bengals history should be up on
Speaker 12: that wall, Bob Trumpy and Rodney Holman. Rodney Holman holds
Speaker 12: the career record for most receptions by a tight end
Speaker 12: with thirty six touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Trumpy had thirty five.
Speaker 12: Rodney Holman played on that Super Bowl team and he
Speaker 12: gets no recognition. Tyler Eifert might have been the best ever,
Speaker 12: but he couldn't stay healthy. But Bob Trump, he should
Speaker 12: have been honored, And now he probably won't be. He
Speaker 12: might be, you know, coach Kim Riley, but I really
Speaker 12: doubt it. But Bob Trump, he should have been honored
Speaker 12: as part of the Ring of Honor. And now he's
Speaker 12: not going to be well.
Speaker 3: Not well. He's alive. He may be posthumously.
Speaker 12: And the one thing about Bob Trumpy, he created sports
Speaker 12: talk in his town. He will always be the king
Speaker 12: of sports talk. Might not like agreed with him a
Speaker 12: lot of times.
Speaker 3: But he was.
Speaker 12: He was great at his craft and he did great
Speaker 12: on television. One of the great stories, Gary Jeff, I'll
Speaker 12: never forget about Bob Trumpy. He had some old guy
Speaker 12: calling him up one night and said, Eric Davis. You know,
Speaker 12: this was early in Eric Davis' career and Eric Davis
Speaker 12: had got hit right and almost into co cononas right
Speaker 12: on the side. This guy said to Bob Trumping, it
Speaker 12: was Pete Rose's job to make sure that Eric Davis
Speaker 12: had a cup on. And Trumpy's laugh, which was you
Speaker 12: could hear him when he laughed to a shake windows
Speaker 12: Trump about fell out of the chair laugh, and that
Speaker 12: this old man said that it was Pete Rose's job
Speaker 12: to make sure that Eric Davis wore a cup.
Speaker 2: I only met Bob Trumpy a few times and talked
Speaker 2: to him extensively a couple of times back in the
Speaker 2: Mount Adams days wild and yes, he was quite the
Speaker 2: care He had great stories. He's the one that told
Speaker 2: me about his pinkle teammate Mike Reid on his way
Speaker 2: to becoming a hit Nashville songwriter. And he told me
Speaker 2: the original story about Mike Read telling him that Mike
Speaker 2: had been on the road for a couple of months
Speaker 2: traveling and performing, you know, when he was trying to
Speaker 2: pursue the music career after football, and his wife was
Speaker 2: upset because Mike Reed had been gone. And he said,
Speaker 2: Mike Reid's wife said, you're like a stranger in this house.
Speaker 2: And Mike Reid said, hold on, honey, in the middle
Speaker 2: of the argument and went and wrote that song Stranger
Speaker 2: in My House for Ronnie millsp And it made him,
Speaker 2: he said it was he said.
Speaker 3: He told him that.
Speaker 2: Mike Reid said it was the best argument he'd ever
Speaker 2: had with his wife. It was perfect. But Trumpy, Uh,
Speaker 2: And guess where most of our conversations took place between
Speaker 2: me and Trumpy the few we had out on the
Speaker 2: smoking patio in Mount Adams.
Speaker 12: Because he smoked like a great train. I know he
Speaker 12: did afraid. He was relentless.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 12: Did you did you ever read his book that he
Speaker 12: wrote years ago. A great book, A great book by
Speaker 12: Bob is it?
Speaker 6: Is it better?
Speaker 2: Is it better than wild Man's book?
Speaker 12: It's it's right about but it's probably right about dead even.
Speaker 3: That's right about dead even. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So tell me, tell me something about the Trumpy
Speaker 2: book that makes it a great book.
Speaker 12: Wild Man, well, he just didn't need well, he did not.
Speaker 12: He did not mince words with the Bengals front office.
Speaker 12: He had not not not bad things to say, but
Speaker 12: he was very critical. He had made him No, he
Speaker 12: did not hold back, and that was that was great
Speaker 12: a hit. That's like me when I got in the
Speaker 12: radio business. I never held back. I had a free
Speaker 12: reign to say pretty much what I wanted to say.
Speaker 12: Trumpy did it trump?
Speaker 5: Is?
Speaker 2: You know, shot from the hip, But he told it
Speaker 2: like it is. Why do you think I have you
Speaker 2: on the show?
Speaker 3: I know, all right?
Speaker 12: So you know we we have Willie. Willie always says,
Speaker 12: I speak truth to power.
Speaker 2: We haven't heard yet about your reaction to and again
Speaker 2: it's been a few days. We're a little long in
Speaker 2: the tooth because I don't have a show every day.
Speaker 2: But you wanted to talk about UC's football's demise at Utah.
Speaker 3: It was they.
Speaker 2: I mean, Utah was favored at home against the Bearcats,
Speaker 2: and we saw why any any comments on that loss
Speaker 2: for UC.
Speaker 12: Yeah, what what film you have of it? Throw it
Speaker 12: in the trash and forget about it. I mean that
Speaker 12: was just everything that could go wrong did go wrong
Speaker 12: for the Bearcats. They had penalties, they couldn't drop passes,
Speaker 12: it was just everything. They were out of sync from.
Speaker 12: I could only watch them, like the third quarter. I
Speaker 12: had to turn it off. I said, this is you know,
Speaker 12: this is terrible. I'm gonna sit here subject myself to
Speaker 12: watching this scarbage. And again, you know, it's only one loss,
Speaker 12: and they're.
Speaker 3: Seven and two.
Speaker 12: They got a shot at winning ten games. They're going
Speaker 12: to go to the ball. They got BYU coming in here.
Speaker 12: They got a couple of their tough games, but just
Speaker 12: throw this one. You know, every team has a bad
Speaker 12: law in every team, every team has a bad loss.
Speaker 3: So that in attraction and forget about it.
Speaker 2: No no doubt about that, Okay, wild man, Well, I
Speaker 2: think we've covered everything except basketball season has now officially begun,
Speaker 2: and every team of note around here wound up winning
Speaker 2: their opening games resoundingly U see Xavier Nku. I mean
Speaker 2: everybody was a winner pretty much.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and I need a program for right now when
Speaker 12: I'm watching UCM, Xavier goes. I don't know any of
Speaker 12: those Scotts. Well they had a bear Cat, know any
Speaker 12: of those guys.
Speaker 2: Bear Cats have a freshman I can't remember his name
Speaker 2: who was had eighteen points in his debut and it
Speaker 2: was the first bear Cat freshman to ever score that
Speaker 2: many points in the debut.
Speaker 3: So well, he's got that going for.
Speaker 12: It's a long road. It's a long road. I mean,
Speaker 12: who they play Western Carolina? Come on, man, I mean
Speaker 12: that game is over in the first quarter. I turned
Speaker 12: it on and I've watched the first quarters that I've
Speaker 12: seen enough, Like lou Banella would say, that game is
Speaker 12: a rout. Xavier had to you know, we're taken to
Speaker 12: the last, you know, the last minute of the game
Speaker 12: before they got rid of Marist and that NK you
Speaker 12: might have played might as well played little Sisters of
Speaker 12: the poor playing West you see West Claremont. I didn't
Speaker 12: even know they had the team. Come on, that's why
Speaker 12: are you playing a team?
Speaker 2: And somebody, somebody said, there was hardly anybody at the
Speaker 2: Xavier game.
Speaker 3: That looked empty.
Speaker 12: And the Miami RedHawks. You know, I forget who they played,
Speaker 12: but they won. But like you said, everybody won. Basketball
Speaker 12: season is here. Can you believe it?
Speaker 8: It is here?
Speaker 2: It's about time, all right, wild Man. That's the way
Speaker 2: the ball bounces tonight. Thanks for your contributions on our
Speaker 2: special election night nightcap, and then those races are pretty
Speaker 2: much all over. But the crying, and there's probably some
Speaker 2: crying going on in places, but wild Man, thank you
Speaker 2: for not crying.
Speaker 3: Well, I haven't started crying yet, but I might.
Speaker 2: Well if you're living in if you're living in Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: you might have good reason. Yes, wild Man and Furman
Speaker 2: is coming on next as we continue our last hour
Speaker 2: together tonight on seven hundred w l W. Because I
Speaker 2: don't have a whole lot of opportunities to be with
Speaker 2: you on these airwaves, a couple of nights a week,
Speaker 2: maybe Saturday mornings, which I love, by the way, but
Speaker 2: because our time is limited and I consider our time
Speaker 2: precious together, I feel like it is my duty to
Speaker 2: bring you consistently the finest guest when I do have
Speaker 2: an opportunity on the night caps, and when I can't
Speaker 2: find one of those finer guests. I can always call
Speaker 2: Andy Furman. I'm kidding now, Andy, Andy, this may be
Speaker 2: and you don't know. I don't know, nobody knows, only
Speaker 2: God knows. This could be the last time we ever
Speaker 2: have a chance to talk together on the air, because
Speaker 2: there will be nobody that has a parade if you
Speaker 2: and I never talk on the air again. Andy, maybe
Speaker 2: maybe maybe somebody, maybe some corporate bean counter perhaps, but
Speaker 2: other than that. So I relish the opportunity once again
Speaker 2: to go ted to ted Mano oh Mano with the
Speaker 2: fur Ball on a Tuesday evening. Welcome to the Nightcap
Speaker 2: Election Edition special, Andy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm really glad to be with you. You
Speaker 5: know that I look forward to these little chats every week.
Speaker 5: I just have enough time to get my blood boiling
Speaker 5: and then I just hang up on.
Speaker 3: You, which is great. I like that.
Speaker 5: It's a good thing, and I don't dwell on it much.
Speaker 5: But I think we need to touch on the Bengals
Speaker 5: because I really think to some extent, all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: now has Dupe Tobin become an idiot? I mean really,
Speaker 5: I mean these people wanted to come forth and speak.
Speaker 5: What is he going to say? And what is the
Speaker 5: media going to write? So I don't understan. I just
Speaker 5: go the distance. You know, when you're in the thick
Speaker 5: of the storm, you just jump on board with everybody else.
Speaker 5: You know. One media person says it's Duke Tobin's fault.
Speaker 5: You know, he's to play a personnel guy. And another person,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, and the next person all the way he
Speaker 5: needs to speak in his choice says, why we know
Speaker 5: how big the team is, and certainly they're partially responsible
Speaker 5: to him. But I think all roads head back to
Speaker 5: Zach Taylor.
Speaker 3: Thanks number one, number number two, number two.
Speaker 5: Duke Tobin has been there like for like nineteen twenty years.
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, now he's become an idiot. I mean,
Speaker 5: back off just a little bit. They're bad players that
Speaker 5: have not messed together. Lou hen Rolmos should have been there.
Speaker 3: Still.
Speaker 5: I think Zach Taylor basically has been a poor choice
Speaker 5: of assistant coaches and coordinators. And I'll leave you with
Speaker 5: this and you can tell me if I'm right or
Speaker 5: wrong on this. The biggest, biggest problem the Bengals have
Speaker 5: always had has never hired a big name coach who
Speaker 5: has had NFL coaching experience. Let's take a quick peak.
Speaker 5: Let's take the look. Zach Taylor was not even a coordinator.
Speaker 5: He was a quarterbacks coach. I'm not saying there's not
Speaker 5: the name of football, the game of football, but you
Speaker 5: need to have a guy that when walks into the
Speaker 5: locker room, commands that immediate respect and forrest. Gregt was
Speaker 5: one of the only coaches that did. Dave Schulett did not.
Speaker 5: Bruce Kosa did not. You know, perhaps some extent that
Speaker 5: maybe Sam Weise did. I think Marbret Lewis did, because
Speaker 5: I remember when he was hired.
Speaker 8: What did he do?
Speaker 5: He walked into the clubhouse, and he walked into that
Speaker 5: first news conference and I was there, and he showed
Speaker 5: off that Baltimore Ravens Super Bowl ring. He walked through
Speaker 5: an instant credibility. No one else has ever done that.
Speaker 2: On that Dangos teams, well, I mean they had Dick
Speaker 2: Lebaux for a season, and Dick Lebau one of the
Speaker 2: most successful defensive coaches in the history of the league
Speaker 2: when he came here from Pittsburgh, and he went right
Speaker 2: back to Pittsburgh after, you know, having his tail between
Speaker 2: his legs after that fiasco. But Dick Lebau. I think
Speaker 2: commanded some respect, don't you think or should it?
Speaker 5: I think it's very difficult when a guy moves from
Speaker 5: an assistant or a coordinated to the head job. I'm
Speaker 5: the same team. I think that you could go because
Speaker 5: you're a different relationship with the players, your buddy buddies.
Speaker 5: You're in the coordinator, you're in those little team meeting rooms,
Speaker 5: and you're not overseeing. You're not the guy that's changing
Speaker 5: or molding the franchise or trying to get the culture together.
Speaker 5: You know, the head coach doesn't do much teaching, but
Speaker 5: he brings everybody together. That's what he does. And it's
Speaker 5: a difficult thing for a the COORDINATETD to do that,
Speaker 5: and b for the players to see a change in
Speaker 5: the guy who is your buddy buddy, who's like your
Speaker 5: coffee don and now he's like you're a leader, and
Speaker 5: it's a different feeling.
Speaker 3: It's very difficulty.
Speaker 5: Even in the workplace.
Speaker 3: Is difficult.
Speaker 5: Don't you think that it is.
Speaker 2: I've heard some people say, and I can't disagree with
Speaker 2: them at all that I believe it's obvious Zach Taylor
Speaker 2: has lost the locker room and it goes to the
Speaker 2: point that you're making commanding respect and deserving earning that
Speaker 2: respect from the players. And I just don't think that
Speaker 2: there's anybody in that Bengals locker room who's looking to
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor for leadership because they haven't seen it out
Speaker 2: of him the entire time he's been here.
Speaker 5: You know, you could tell a leader from a mile away.
Speaker 5: And when it comes to coaching, I would say this,
Speaker 5: most coaches know their game that they're coaching, Otherwise they
Speaker 5: wouldn't be in it. I mean, they know the exes
Speaker 5: and those I don't talking about football, tasketball ever. They are.
Speaker 5: But there's a difference between the leader and a guy
Speaker 5: who just controlled be a teacher.
Speaker 8: I don't give you an example.
Speaker 3: Wes Miller, the basketball.
Speaker 5: Coach, and you see not a leader.
Speaker 11: He's not.
Speaker 5: He may know the game, he may have been great
Speaker 5: on the interview. I don't know why he did, you know,
Speaker 5: and he came from a program there was really a
Speaker 5: small program, a lower level Division one school, and he
Speaker 5: had some success there. He has not had any success whatsoever.
Speaker 5: You see, they have not made postseason play since he's
Speaker 5: been there. And I got to believe that has a
Speaker 5: lot to do with his leadership qualities. I see you
Speaker 5: on the bench, I could see, I could see the
Speaker 5: way he acts. I just I know he's not a
Speaker 5: leader Bob Huggins command and respect. I mean when he
Speaker 5: had his first news conference, I was there. You know
Speaker 5: what he said and someone asked, what do you expect
Speaker 5: you know, growing pains and how long it's going to take.
Speaker 5: I expect to win now, that's what he said. You
Speaker 5: know well said that Kirk Signetti when he was high
Speaker 5: from James Madison to become the football coach at Indiana University.
Speaker 3: What do you expect, Kirk?
Speaker 5: I expect to win?
Speaker 3: Now you know what he did.
Speaker 5: Indiana has a chance to win the national.
Speaker 3: Championship of football. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 5: Three years ago?
Speaker 3: You're crazy?
Speaker 2: No, that's that's completely true and completely nuts all at
Speaker 2: the same time. With IU football, and if they weren't
Speaker 2: playing in the same conference with Ohio State, you could
Speaker 2: make an.
Speaker 3: Argument that they're the best team in the Big Ten.
Speaker 2: I still think the buck guys are and I think
Speaker 2: the Buckeys are more likely to win a national championship
Speaker 2: than the Hoosiers.
Speaker 3: But they got a they got a puncher's chance.
Speaker 8: To do that.
Speaker 3: They are really, really good, no doubt about that. I
Speaker 3: will tell you this much.
Speaker 5: I mean, one of the reasons why James Franklin got
Speaker 5: fired as coach at Penn State not because it was
Speaker 5: one of most records. You know, certainly he couldn't beat
Speaker 5: the Big ten teams, He couldn't beat the top ten teams,
Speaker 5: and his record was horrendous against top ten competition. But
Speaker 5: the fact that he just was not compatible, he wasn't friendly,
Speaker 5: and that hurts. You know what we else it heard.
Speaker 5: It hurt coach Brian Kelly at LSU. There was some
Speaker 5: talk now and I've read these reports that he didn't
Speaker 5: even know the names of the players on the team.
Speaker 3: What that's how bad it was.
Speaker 2: Now, how can you, I know, you've got seventy or
Speaker 2: eighty athletes on some of these major college football teams.
Speaker 2: I get that, But how do you not know the
Speaker 2: names of players that you helped recruit that you're coaching
Speaker 2: every day?
Speaker 3: How does that happen? I don't know.
Speaker 5: I just don't know. When I read that, I was shot.
Speaker 5: And the point is that he just sort of went
Speaker 5: his own way. And you know, again, his record was
Speaker 5: not that bad. I mean, they expect a lot of
Speaker 5: LSU but his record is not a bad record, and
Speaker 5: he just look, he started off like a fool trying
Speaker 5: to have that that Cajun accent that the news conference
Speaker 5: when he was hired. I mean, you don't do that,
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, that doesn't endear you to the community.
Speaker 5: It really doesn't.
Speaker 2: Like a political candidate who suddenly is in a church
Speaker 2: in Atlanta and starts sounding like she just came off
Speaker 2: the plantation. I'm not naming any names, Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harrison. Uh,
Speaker 2: but yeah, there's there's a lack of authenticity to all
Speaker 2: of that, and real matters to people, you know what,
Speaker 2: as much as leadership, as much as leadership and uh,
Speaker 2: commanding presidents matters. In sports, authenticity matters because the players
Speaker 2: can tell if you're a phony or not, just like
Speaker 2: the public can tell usually if a politician is phony
Speaker 2: or not over over a propensity of time with a
Speaker 2: with it, you know, the evidence gathered in a campaign,
Speaker 2: you can tell if somebody's a real person or not,
Speaker 2: or if they're putting on an act, if it's a performance.
Speaker 2: And obviously the thing you noted about Brian Kelly is
Speaker 2: that was performative theater.
Speaker 3: It wasn't real.
Speaker 2: I mean, Brian Brian Kelly's he's a Midwest guy period.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 5: And here's the thing. I mean, I think that these
Speaker 5: coaches when they get hired, I'm not so certain the
Speaker 5: athletic directors do a great background check. They usually hire
Speaker 5: these these agencies, these companies that kind of do the interviews,
Speaker 5: and they come back and say, here's the guys two
Speaker 5: or three by the being, but a bangal ahead and
Speaker 5: hire them. You know, if you're the athletic thirty, you
Speaker 5: do your homework and you see the way he left
Speaker 5: the University of Cincinnati. Yeah, I don't want any part
Speaker 5: of this guy. No, it doesn't have a part of
Speaker 5: the community. He just left like in the middle of
Speaker 5: the night.
Speaker 3: You just you don't do that.
Speaker 5: And he just left Cincinnati. Hang in the bag.
Speaker 3: Remember that it was terrible.
Speaker 2: It was a bad football weekend for me all the
Speaker 2: way around.
Speaker 3: Andy.
Speaker 2: I mean the Bengal obviously they're not my primary team,
Speaker 2: my primary team or the Kansas City Chiefs. And they
Speaker 2: got beat during the regular season by Buffalo again. They're
Speaker 2: now one in five against the Buffalo Bills in the
Speaker 2: regular season. The good thing is that they're four to
Speaker 2: oh in the playoffs in the postseason against the Bills, so,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 5: And the Bills usually collapse in the playoffs anyway, so
Speaker 5: you don't do to worry about, so.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: And then the Bengals loss, and I'm down in Tennessee
Speaker 2: on Sunday visiting my parents and they had to deal
Speaker 2: with another Titans loss that looked like it looked promising
Speaker 2: from the beginning, and that poor woefull NFL team in Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Gosh, I'm great.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that I don't live there. I mean, at
Speaker 2: least the Bengals have done something.
Speaker 3: Well. You know, I a would say this, and.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying I'm the guy I lists at the
Speaker 5: bright side of things all the time, because I could
Speaker 5: be pretty hard at that times as well. But you know,
Speaker 5: I still would rather have a bad football team in
Speaker 5: this city that have no football team really, because you know,
Speaker 5: you're a lost city without an NFL franchise. I mean,
Speaker 5: I think I can a little without Major League Baseball,
Speaker 5: I really do. I mean, I love the Reds, but
Speaker 5: but the something will be rough. You know, you're right
Speaker 5: about that.
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean, without football will be really tough. It will
Speaker 5: be tough for an NFL team here, wouldn't it?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: And the Bearcats lost down the road at Utel, which
Speaker 2: which a lot of people expected, maybe not the Bearcats
Speaker 2: players yet. And and my Vanderbilt Commodores went into Texas
Speaker 2: that it had an up and down season up to
Speaker 2: this point with a very famous named quarterback, young quarterback
Speaker 2: arch Manning at the helm against my guy, Diego Pavia,
Speaker 2: and it looked like Vanderbilt was going to get absolutely
Speaker 2: shellacked too. But that comeback at the end when they
Speaker 2: score and it's a three point game, and then they
Speaker 2: almost recover the on side kick at the end with
Speaker 2: like seventeen seconds with a chance to win. That was
Speaker 2: an exciting football game, but again, very disappointing for me ultimately.
Speaker 5: But I still think they have a postseason play. They
Speaker 5: can be in the college football Tournament.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely no.
Speaker 2: They're six two in the SEC.
Speaker 5: Tennessee. They got a big game against Tennessee. They got
Speaker 5: to beat Tennessee.
Speaker 2: They got to beat Auburn, they got to beat Kentucky,
Speaker 2: they got to beat Tennessee. They do all that, They'll
Speaker 2: have ten wins on the season and they going to
Speaker 2: a major bowl game, or they could be in the
Speaker 2: College the twelve teams.
Speaker 3: They could.
Speaker 5: I'm not wrong, they will be, you know, I really
Speaker 5: think they will be. And it's amazing what that school
Speaker 5: is dumb because you know, for years I thought that
Speaker 5: school should probably be in the IVY League with schools
Speaker 5: like Brown and Colombia, Penn and Princeton. Really well there
Speaker 5: academically sure their.
Speaker 2: Admission their admission standards are about the same as opposed
Speaker 2: to the other SEC state schools where you got where
Speaker 2: you get, you get a two point zero and you
Speaker 2: just barely made a see and said, yeah, he's he's
Speaker 2: a genius put the criminal justice.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's kind of crazy how they even
Speaker 5: got into that conference with those schools. Don't you think
Speaker 5: that there's nothing common them, right, I mean, there's no
Speaker 5: common thread between those those schools. And then really maybe
Speaker 5: they brought them in to bring the average GPA up
Speaker 5: in the league.
Speaker 2: Well either that or to get a guaranteed win for
Speaker 2: teams like Alabama and Georgia. Maybe that was no, no, no,
Speaker 2: So anyway, just not a fulfilling college football weekend for me.
Speaker 3: And I'm trying to feel better.
Speaker 5: Well, you can't because of what I did, and for
Speaker 5: some reason I turned I turned the game on the radio.
Speaker 5: I don't know why I didn't turn on the team
Speaker 5: for somebody, I turned the game on radio, and next
Speaker 5: thing I know, in the pregame, I'm here that Bob
Speaker 5: Trump he died.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know.
Speaker 5: I was out of town.
Speaker 3: That's right. There was on TV.
Speaker 5: I was driving and I had the radio and I
Speaker 5: was listening to the iHeart app. That's how I listened
Speaker 5: to the game and I heard Dan Hoard and Dave Lapham.
Speaker 3: I said, what Bob Trump he died?
Speaker 5: And all the reports I had read it never said
Speaker 5: what he passed from, but obviously probably something that was smoking,
Speaker 5: because he was it was one hell of a smoker.
Speaker 5: I mean, I remember back on Third Street three Sports too,
Speaker 5: we had our studios. That place looked like a steam room.
Speaker 3: I was just I was just going to bring it up.
Speaker 2: When I first came to Cincinnati in nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 2: our studios for ninety two point five FM, where I
Speaker 2: initially worked here, were down in that in that little
Speaker 2: building there, and I think KRC was there, and that
Speaker 2: their studio looked out over the river. That's where Jerry
Speaker 2: Thomas sat and did his show before they moved up
Speaker 2: to Mount Adams too.
Speaker 3: And C.
Speaker 2: K Y was in there and Trumpy would tape the
Speaker 2: sports talk coming up leading up to a Bengals gamer afterwards.
Speaker 2: And in that room, in that room, they had a
Speaker 2: big comp French room, as you remember, And you're right, yes,
Speaker 2: that was the weirdest color of yellow I've ever seen
Speaker 2: on glass quarrels.
Speaker 3: And Trump was constant.
Speaker 2: He didn't stop, he didn't put it. The second the
Speaker 2: cigarette was out, another one was being lit and it
Speaker 2: was Bob. And I just imagine the poor people in
Speaker 2: the room with him and just sit.
Speaker 3: There alcoholt further.
Speaker 5: You know, you couldn't or wouldn't or fearful of even
Speaker 5: going to him to say can you please put it out?
Speaker 5: Because he give you two words, two letters, F you
Speaker 5: that's what he would do.
Speaker 3: Well, you can't, No, you can't, and you can't spell.
Speaker 3: You can't spare spell Furman without f you. So what's
Speaker 3: wrong with that? F you? But anyway, continued story.
Speaker 5: No, but but I'll say this one thing about a
Speaker 5: tremendous broadcaster, a hell of a career both football and broadcasting.
Speaker 5: But again I would say this, he had one hell
Speaker 5: of a presence, and he can't be viewed as as
Speaker 5: a bully, and he also had a good heart to
Speaker 5: I'll go that way. But I remember one time when
Speaker 5: Randy Michael's our program director, and I was down there.
Speaker 5: He asked Bob to read the school closings during the
Speaker 5: winter months. Yeah, and he says, I need read the
Speaker 5: school closings. I mean never came to staff meetings. No
Speaker 5: one expected him to. But again at that point in time,
Speaker 5: when I first started at seven hundred, I mean I
Speaker 5: would think sports Talk his show was maybe sixty seventy
Speaker 5: percent of the total revenue of the entire station, which
Speaker 5: doesn't rule out the fact that he shouldn't be part
Speaker 5: of his staff, but he never really was. And so
Speaker 5: when Randy says, please, you know, not please, but you
Speaker 5: you need to read the school closings, he says, I
Speaker 5: don't read school closings. And then they got into it,
Speaker 5: and I remember Bob took Randy against the wall and
Speaker 5: lifted him off the wall and.
Speaker 10: He had his throat by his shoulders.
Speaker 5: It was crazy, and Bill Dennis and the segment read
Speaker 5: the school closing. So look, I would say this a
Speaker 5: tremendous talent both on the field and football, and certainly
Speaker 5: it's a shame that he won't be in the Ring
Speaker 5: of Honor and out when he's alive, and he should
Speaker 5: have been. That's another story. But I think that again,
Speaker 5: and to some extent, I would have to use the
Speaker 5: term maybe he was very difficult.
Speaker 3: To coach, a little uncoachable. Was that maybe?
Speaker 2: But you're right, larger than life presence back to the
Speaker 2: coaching coaching thing we were talking about at the inception
Speaker 2: of this conversation. Bob Huggins, Bob Trumpy, uh right, Bobby,
Speaker 2: Bobby Knight.
Speaker 5: These are people that when you have a party and
Speaker 5: they walk into the room, everybody stops and turns around
Speaker 5: and doesn't say a word. Yeah, certain people might that
Speaker 5: he's one of them. I would think like Rick Patino
Speaker 5: would be one of those guys, you know, Bob Knife
Speaker 5: for Shure, Bob Huggins another one.
Speaker 3: You know. I'm trying to think.
Speaker 5: Of a coach here now, in this in this town
Speaker 5: that would have that kind of presence. I don't think
Speaker 5: there is one.
Speaker 3: I really don't. Does Sparky kind of have that presence
Speaker 3: for the Reds.
Speaker 5: I was not here when Sparky was here, but I
Speaker 5: would assume he did, right, I think.
Speaker 3: He probably did.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Leadership, well, Tito may have that, yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 3: I'll give him that.
Speaker 2: Phil Jackson with the with the bulls and the Lake,
Speaker 2: I mean he had that kind of commanding the room.
Speaker 5: You know, in the years and coaching here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: How would think Pete Gillen did. I'll give you that.
Speaker 2: With with with with that rivalry between UC and Xavier
Speaker 2: that existed at that point, it was great Gillan. Gillan
Speaker 2: had to have that kind of commanding presence just to
Speaker 2: match Huggins, right.
Speaker 5: You know, you know it wasn't forced, it was it
Speaker 5: was in the d n A.
Speaker 3: They had it.
Speaker 5: That's what it was. And it's great.
Speaker 2: It's great for the authenticity. Authenticity. We we've come full circle. Andy,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for rounding out the show. We
Speaker 2: appreciate your help tonight.
Speaker 5: Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 8: I'll see you sometime.
Speaker 2: I hope this wasn't the last time, because I think
Speaker 2: we can do better. That's that's the fur ball on
Speaker 2: seven hundred l W