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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Nightcap on seven under WLW Election night

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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati and elsewhere, and of course we'll be covering

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Speaker 1: those results.

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Speaker 2: It looks like have Ted purvol has been it's projected

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Speaker 2: to win the mayor's race in Cincinnati, and the city

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Speaker 2: council isn't changing.

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Speaker 3: And you have to scratch your head and wonder.

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Speaker 2: Why, except that people who were concerned about the way

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Speaker 2: things have been going didn't turn out and vote again Again,

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Speaker 2: we'll get to that. Gary Jeff with you on this

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Speaker 2: Tuesday night, November fourth, and it is off yr election night.

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Speaker 3: And before we begin, just.

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Speaker 2: Some thoughts on election night, especially one of these next

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Speaker 2: to your course in midterms and you will see greater

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Speaker 2: turnout and more enthusiasm and more energy and more electricity

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Speaker 2: around that because it really determines the balance of power

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Speaker 2: in our federal government. But all politics is local, I thought.

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Speaker 2: And when you have routinely in a city, say like Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: where only twenty percent of the population turns out, unless

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Speaker 2: it's a presidential election or even a midterm election, a

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Speaker 2: mayoral election, this is the election that controls how your

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Speaker 2: city is governed, where you live, and you don't show

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Speaker 2: up at the polls unless you are one of those

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Speaker 2: extremely partisan people. And in the city of Cincinnati, most

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Speaker 2: of those extremely partisan people are Democrats, obviously by the

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Speaker 2: results that we get in almost every election for how

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Speaker 2: many of the last few decades, fifty sixty years.

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Speaker 3: Something like that.

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Speaker 2: You can't expect change if you don't go out and

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Speaker 2: pull the lever, or you don't have your vote registered.

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Speaker 2: And I was thinking about that too from my particular standpoint,

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Speaker 2: and not just in off year elections. I had nothing

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Speaker 2: to vote for it all. I live in northern Kentucky

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Speaker 2: and there was nothing on the ballot on the issues

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Speaker 2: really for me to voice my opinion about, which I

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Speaker 2: do every time I get a chance. I don't live

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Speaker 2: I don't live in New Jersey or Virginia or New

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Speaker 2: York City. And the way I am seeing these races

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Speaker 2: shape up around the country, I'm really glad I don't

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Speaker 2: because I wouldn't vote for any of these people who

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Speaker 2: are the current front runners right now, unless even if

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Speaker 2: I had a gun to my head, even if I

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Speaker 2: was being promised everything free for the rest of my life.

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Speaker 2: We have politicians offering you free stuff, all freedom goes away,

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Speaker 2: all real freedom, and those of us who are smart

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Speaker 2: enough know that. I wouldn't say that a lot of

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Speaker 2: gen z qualifies as smart enough. And apparently in New

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Speaker 2: York City at least they've been energized to vote for

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Speaker 2: a communist calling whatever you want. But there are more

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Speaker 2: important things. My wife and I just got back from

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Speaker 2: Middle Tennessee to see my parents this weekend. Had a

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Speaker 2: great overnight visit with mom and dad on Sunday, came

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Speaker 2: back yesterday afternoon. Not enough time, but at least we

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Speaker 2: got to go. My dad was eighty nine last Thursday

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Speaker 2: night on November or October thirtieth, eighty nine and still

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Speaker 2: just hanging in there. My mother is eighty eight, and

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Speaker 2: she is absolutely a machine, energizer, bunner, a bunny plus.

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Speaker 2: But I got off the phone with my mom this

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Speaker 2: afternoon found out that quite suddenly, one of my younger brothers,

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Speaker 2: reconnect his intestines with his stomach. Stuff wasn't getting through.

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Speaker 2: But this is just like like that. Nobody knew anything

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Speaker 2: was wrong until it was, and he's in ICU right

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Speaker 2: now at a hospital in Smyrna, Tennessee. My brother John,

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Speaker 2: My brother Dwyane, who was going to take my mother

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Speaker 2: moon on the way. Our first guest of the evening

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Speaker 2: is a woman who is an independent journalist. She is

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Speaker 2: a White House reporter. Her name is Karin Clifford, and

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about the implications for the Trump administration with

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Speaker 2: the elections that are going on tonight and what it

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Speaker 2: means for the midterms. Who knows Karinn Clifford on the

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Speaker 2: way In just a few moments. My old buddy Rick Robinson,

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Speaker 2: lawyer and author and friend, will join us at nine

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Speaker 2: thirty five. He spent many a year in Washington, d c.

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Speaker 3: And in the.

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Speaker 2: Powers of political the corridors of political power in the

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Speaker 2: Commonwealth of Kentucky. Worked with Jim Bunning when he was

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Speaker 2: in the Senate. He will join us a little bit

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Speaker 2: later on this hour. Jim Nacy, who knows a lot

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Speaker 2: about elections. He's won some, he's lost some, and has

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Speaker 2: some definite opinions, not only on what went on around

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Speaker 2: eleven o'clock we will have an hour of sports for

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Speaker 2: the out of sorts. The wild Man Ann Furman will

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Speaker 2: join us regular Night Cap contributors, and you can be

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Speaker 2: so I've got anything that sparks your fancy or you

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Speaker 2: the horrific plane takeoff crash in Louisville today around ten

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Speaker 2: So it's been a big day, not necessarily the kind

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Speaker 2: nine sixteen current. Think Clifford will join this in just

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Speaker 2: a few moments from the Washington Reporters Press Pool on

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Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. On this election night, in Cincinnati and

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Speaker 2: elsewhere around the country. Gary Jeff with you on the

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Speaker 2: Nightcap on seven hundred WLW, joining us now is a

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Speaker 2: prominent member of the White House Press Corps, independent journalist

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Speaker 2: and spokesperson for SAT one two three dot com, a

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Speaker 2: leading provider of emergency communication tools, originally from Pacific Palisades, California, which,

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Speaker 2: of course we all saw tragically destroyed by the wildfires

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Speaker 2: in January of this year. She has a very personal

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Speaker 2: perspective coverage of emergencies and national crises. Just had an

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Speaker 2: emergency today at Muhammad Ali International Airport down the road

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Speaker 2: in Louisville, Kentucky. Korinn Clifford joins us Karin, Good evening.

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Speaker 2: I understand from what my producer says that you're sounding

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Speaker 2: a lot like Secretary Kennedy right now.

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Speaker 3: You're so horse from doing interviews all day.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I sound like Secret Kennedy. I actually sound a

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Speaker 4: lot like Demi Moore too. I lost my voice from

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Speaker 4: the election coverage I've been doing all day at the

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Speaker 4: White House.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Well, you know, I think it's actually

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Speaker 2: quite fetching. And uh I love I love it. I

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Speaker 2: love a good voice.

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Speaker 4: Especially that one I can give you a really good voice.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like to me more.

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Speaker 3: It does sound in your in your.

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Speaker 2: Former state of California. You know you don't live in California.

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Speaker 4: Anymore, right, I live in California.

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Speaker 3: You do.

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Speaker 4: Virginia, Washington, d C. And Florida, and I registered to

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Speaker 4: vote in all three states. I didn't register in DC.

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Speaker 4: I registered in California, Virginia, and Florida. And I got

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Speaker 4: threatened by the deputy sheriff if I vote, they will

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Speaker 4: arrest me.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you should, just you should. You should

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Speaker 2: become a Democrat and they'll let you do it.

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Speaker 4: Exactly exactly. They're telling me that because I registered in

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Speaker 4: three states, which I don't believe right to do that,

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Speaker 4: I can't vote. But I didn't vote. I didn't vote

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Speaker 4: because what's the point. Yes, the Democrats are winning everything

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Speaker 4: because they mess with our elections. I have phone calls

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Speaker 4: coming from all over America, from very simple electioneering to

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Speaker 4: very complex where they won't let people vote and then

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Speaker 4: they just throw your bullet in the trust. In Virginia,

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Speaker 4: you don't even have to show ida vote. How is

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 2: Well, that explains the large margin that Spamberger has over

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Speaker 2: Mikey Cheryl, do you think do you think that Jack

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Speaker 2: Chittarelli after the third time should just say Okay, maybe

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Speaker 2: somebody else needs this. I will tell you what's interesting though,

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Speaker 2: And I'm just seeing it on the screen, Karen, is

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Speaker 2: that in New York mon Donnie is forty nine percent,

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Speaker 2: Curtis Lee was eight point nine, Cuoma was forty one.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's literally a dead heat in New York City.

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Speaker 2: But because Slee was in the race, it looks like

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Speaker 2: Mom Donnie is going to true to form win. This

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Speaker 4: Slee and I love him known personally, he's an amazing person.

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Speaker 4: That he should have dropped out of the race. He

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Speaker 4: should have dropped out of the race and let Cloma wins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Between the two of them, they've got forty nine point

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Speaker 2: six percent of the vote.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And did you see that Elon Musk is tweeting

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Speaker 4: that there is a weird problem with the ballot in

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Speaker 4: New York City. So Elon Musk is admitting that there's

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Speaker 4: election corruption, potential fraud happening in the New York City race.

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't surprise me a bit.

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Speaker 2: After what was pulled off in twenty twenty around the

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Speaker 4: Right, yes, And they haven't cleaned the voter rolls in

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Speaker 4: New York City, so dead people vote. In Virginia, we

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Speaker 4: have a major migrant crisis, and they're letting the illegals vote.

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Speaker 4: In California is a train wreck because they're redistricting it.

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Speaker 4: We have to go to executive orders by governors and

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Speaker 4: of course President Trump to hand count vote. We have

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Speaker 4: to use paper ballots and a receipt for you voted for,

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Speaker 4: and we have to hand count the vote before the

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty six midterms.

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Speaker 2: This is this is the only thing you you say

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Speaker 2: that will guarantee a free and fair election.

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Speaker 3: Karin.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we're in trouble. Our elections are corrupted. And I've

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Speaker 4: interviewed hundreds of people across America because they call me.

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Speaker 4: I dogs my phone number and they tell me what

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Speaker 4: they're going through. That's why I lost my voice today.

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Speaker 4: There's so much election.

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Speaker 2: Well you thought you would have thought, Karin talking to

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Speaker 2: Karin Clifford, White House reporter and a spokesperson for SAD

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Speaker 2: after twenty twenty and the court battles that were won

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Speaker 2: too late, after the fact, uh, that we were over

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Speaker 2: that in this country. You'd have thought that people enough

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Speaker 2: people had woken up to not let that ever happen again.

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Speaker 5: But apparently we have to.

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Speaker 4: Paper ballot. Of course, id you have idea, but we

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Speaker 4: have to handcout the vote. We cannot use machines. We

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Speaker 4: cannot trust any machines. And I have studied this for

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Speaker 4: years now, for years and years.

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Speaker 3: And President Trump has old.

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Speaker 4: Team, and we better take action before the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: six the terms. It's going to be a mess.

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Speaker 2: So do you think that means communists?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 2: I know, do you think that being said Karin, that

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Speaker 2: this election really means anything as far as the Democrats

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Speaker 2: regaining power in the House or the Senate, or that

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Speaker 2: there's some kind of blue wave coming next year or

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Speaker 2: this is an aberration and it's all been caused by

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Speaker 2: election fraud.

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Speaker 4: No, listen, there is no blue waves coming. There is

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Speaker 4: no blue waves coming. This is happening because we do

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Speaker 4: not have secure elections. We have to go to paper pilots.

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Speaker 4: We have to go to hand counting the vote. The

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Speaker 4: Democrats to not be winning California is Republican. I interview

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Speaker 4: Yes, to read this certainment. So it's a big mess.

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Speaker 3: The elections fair, Karen.

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Speaker 2: If people want to find out more, they can go

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Speaker 2: of time, sadly, and you, young lady, need to go

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Speaker 2: rest your voice.

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Speaker 4: God bless you, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: God bless you. Thanks for hanging in there long enough

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Speaker 2: for us to get that done. Fraudulent elections in New

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Speaker 3: Scary stuff.

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Speaker 2: Nine thirty News time at seven hundred WLW meet the

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Speaker 2: new City Council in Cincinnati same as the old city

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Speaker 2: And the mayoral r says, you know, has been called

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Speaker 2: Andrew Cuomo had forty one point three percent of the vote.

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Speaker 2: And as I mentioned earlier, if everything's free, then you

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Speaker 2: check it out, Communist China. To talk about election night,

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Speaker 3: Are you meet the boss?

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Speaker 7: Say?

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Speaker 3: Oh, boss, that's it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I welcome to Cincinnati politics. I tell you what,

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Speaker 2: The wheel just goes round and round and round, and

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Speaker 8: You know you know what I love about that race.

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Speaker 2: Well in Virginia, the attorney general might not be the

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Speaker 2: He was leading by a slim margin earlier, but a

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Speaker 2: may it may happen that that race has not been called.

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Speaker 2: As far as I know, the Attorney General's race with

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Speaker 8: I do not think it has. I've been following a

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Speaker 2: Who fantasized about putting ahead in mister Gilbert h putting

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Speaker 2: This is someone that people in Virginia, you know, still

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Speaker 8: That really doesn't fit very well on a bumper sticker.

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Speaker 8: You're right about you gotta that's a lot of words.

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Speaker 8: You gotta know how you put that on a bumper

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 8: Yard sign maybe you know, But yeah, that's still just

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Speaker 2: Oh God, who was a comedian who used to say

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Speaker 2: It's maybe maybe that's what he should have on his

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Speaker 8: Uh I got I got to tell you that there

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Speaker 8: She and Lynn Cheney hit it off together. They have

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Speaker 3: So you never you never went hunting with Dick Cheney.

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Speaker 8: No, I never went hunting with Dick Cheney. Always always

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Speaker 8: That's a bad idea. What a love to gone fly

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Speaker 2: I understand that, being from from Wyoming and all of that.

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Speaker 8: That's the same event of Another funny story is that

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Speaker 8: There was a person in ch in uh Carl Linder's

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Speaker 3: She calls me up and.

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Speaker 8: She said, you know, you know, mister would like to

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Speaker 8: So I walked over to the advanced guy and I said,

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Speaker 5: Who the hell is this guy?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so you know it's that was one of the

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Speaker 2: So, oh, so I will let you know that they

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Speaker 3: That this is just amazing.

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Speaker 8: Bumper stickers. It's on a bumper sticker. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 8: there were a bunch of things, and I, you know,

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Speaker 8: on an election night, you and I always talk about this.

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Speaker 3: Okay, on an election Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Because you and I always disagree on on this stuff.

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Speaker 8: You kind of look at me like, please don't tell

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Speaker 8: And the polling basically said, you know, we see all

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Speaker 3: Whose fault is that?

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Speaker 8: You know, Democrats are blaming Republican Republicans are blaming Democrats.

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Speaker 8: Which brought me to Cincinnati City Council of going. I

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Speaker 8: And you just told me that apparently that apparently not,

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Speaker 8: which surprised me. I thought, you know, it, having such

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Speaker 8: a background in Cincinnati at the Charter Right Party, that

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Speaker 8: with the problems going on in the city, here's some

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Speaker 8: people going out there.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know Chris.

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Speaker 8: Smitherman running as an independent. You know Steve Gooden, my

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Speaker 8: my pal used to practice law with him. Uh, you

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Speaker 8: know running as a charter right. I thought i'd have

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Speaker 8: an impact. I really did. And obviously no change. It

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Speaker 8: looks like in a city council.

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Speaker 2: Well, the change has to come from the voter obviously, unless,

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Speaker 2: as my friend Karin Clifford, who was on with me

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Speaker 2: before the news breaks, as the voting machines have to

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Speaker 2: be changed.

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Speaker 3: But the change, you can't blame me.

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Speaker 8: I disagree with her all that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why you disagree. I'm I'm all in

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Speaker 2: favor of all paper ballots all the time, hand counted.

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Speaker 8: With. All you have to do is look at one race,

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Speaker 8: is get heady race and gets thrown in Kentucky, paper

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Speaker 8: ballots are the downfall of them. They're the easiest going

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Speaker 8: to pick the race. I will save that for another.

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Speaker 8: We'll save that for another.

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Speaker 2: But no, you have to blame ultimately the voters, I

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Speaker 2: mean absolutely for not coming out number one. The turnout instance,

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Speaker 2: I don't have an exact figure on the turnout in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: but it usually is about twenty percent and that's you know,

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Speaker 2: unless it's a presidential election, unless it's a national federal election,

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Speaker 2: the president's on the ballot, then you have closer to

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Speaker 2: forty to fifty percent turnout in Cincinnati. But for these

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Speaker 2: races that should matter most to the local voter, they

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Speaker 2: don't show up. Rick Only the partisans show up, the

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Speaker 2: real partisan. But the average person, the average person whose

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Speaker 2: life is going to be adversely or positively affected by

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Speaker 2: the result.

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Speaker 3: They don't show up.

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Speaker 2: The guy who's working a job, who has a family,

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Speaker 2: who is struggling to make ends meet, who's trying to

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Speaker 2: just get home safely every night to his wife. And

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Speaker 2: you know, they're just trying to get home to their families,

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Speaker 2: men and women, and they see the carnage and the

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Speaker 2: chaos every single day, and they want to change. Why

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Speaker 2: don't they actively pursue change instead of sitting on their

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Speaker 2: hands and ignoring it.

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Speaker 8: There used to be a guy in northern Kentucky who

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Speaker 8: was in the Republican Party who used to refer to

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Speaker 8: it as the recalcitrant Republicans.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean Democrats, I mean even passive Democrats. Recalcitrant

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Speaker 2: Democrats don't show up. If twenty percent is all that's

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Speaker 2: turning out for a mayoral and city council race. That

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Speaker 2: means Democrats are staying home too, because they know they

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Speaker 2: got all of the diehards to carry their water for them,

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Speaker 2: and they'll be happy with the result no matter who

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Speaker 2: the person is, as long as there's a D in

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Speaker 2: front of their name. I think it's ridiculous. Just real quickly,

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Speaker 2: in the last few minutes, we've got rick other things.

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Speaker 2: You said to watch.

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Speaker 8: For other things. Everybody's talking about New York. Who cares

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Speaker 8: it's New York. Put it to the side. It is

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Speaker 8: interesting that he's talking big, big national issues in a

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Speaker 8: local race. Better to watch as to what's going on

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Speaker 8: with progressive mayor races. I look at Albuquerque mayor races.

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Speaker 8: The progressive mayor all nonpartisan ballot come under fire in

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Speaker 8: the last, uh, you know, several several years. Let's take

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Speaker 8: a look at that see if in fact he can

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Speaker 8: you know, I think he's gonna win reelection, but with

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Speaker 8: what number crowded ballot. Certainly going to has the shot

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Speaker 8: in the crowded ballot. But a much better race to

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Speaker 8: look at on the progressive local level, uh than New

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Speaker 8: York City. Virginia and California or Virginia New Jersey. The

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Speaker 8: interesting thing that I'm seeing so far is that not

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Speaker 8: necessarily that the Democrat won in those in those states.

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Speaker 8: New Jersey is a is a D state that will

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Speaker 8: occasionally go are in local races, but still a pretty

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Speaker 8: strong D, say Virginia. The same thing what I'm seeing

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Speaker 8: though early on, is that several counties flipped, especially in

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Speaker 8: New Jersey. Now this is backed by a very weak

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Speaker 8: comparison candidate because you're comparing it against the Harris campaign

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Speaker 8: that although they won both of those states, did not

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Speaker 8: win with the margins that they probably should have. But

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Speaker 8: as you take a look at it, a lot of

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Speaker 8: those counties are flipping, like to see what's going on there.

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Speaker 8: And the final thing is the and I guess the

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Speaker 8: thing that I'm not watching. I'm not watching proposition fifty.

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Speaker 8: Why it's because it's a point in time in a month,

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Speaker 8: it could be a different point in time, But it

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Speaker 8: doesn't tell me anything about what's going to happen in

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Speaker 8: the future voter turnout in anything.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So even if the districts are in what Princeton

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Speaker 2: called the worst jerrymandering ever done in the history of

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Speaker 2: the country by their independent analysis of that that that's

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Speaker 2: not a big deal.

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Speaker 8: I'm against first off, I'm against all of the redistricting

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Speaker 8: and the to to get advantages in the terms. I'm

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Speaker 8: against it in Texas, I'm against it in California. I'm

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Speaker 8: against it if they try and do it in Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 8: you name it, where they're doing it. I'm against changing

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Speaker 8: the rules in the middle of theutry. I think that's

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Speaker 8: a bad policy. I think that's bad government. All right,

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Speaker 8: But you know, California, it's the point of time for them.

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Speaker 8: It has no indications as to where anything's going to

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Speaker 8: go in the next in the next election.

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Speaker 2: All right, Rick, thank you so much. It's uh, it's

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Speaker 2: good to have a conversation with you again. It's good

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Speaker 2: to have you on tonight. It's good to talk to

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Speaker 2: you anytime. And uh, my best will wish is for

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Speaker 2: your health and everything else that's going on.

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Speaker 8: All right, bro oh, thanks, cal I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: You got it. Jim Ornacy will join us after the news,

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Speaker 3: which is next. It is the night camp on election night.

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Speaker 2: I'm seven under WLW all over but the shout and

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Speaker 2: we're going to shout a little bit more between now

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Speaker 2: and midnight still to come. The wild Man will join

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Speaker 2: us and Andy Ferman next hour and at the top

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Speaker 2: of this hour. I think it's important on election night

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Speaker 2: to have somebody who's actually been personally individually a candidate,

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Speaker 2: somebody who has skin in the game, Like we all

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Speaker 2: don't have skin, and we're supposed to all have skin

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Speaker 2: in the game. That's why we vote and turn out,

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Speaker 2: if we actually vote and turn out. But as far

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Speaker 2: as candidates go, this guy, our next guest, has been

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Speaker 2: on both sides, the winning and the losing side. So

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Speaker 2: to get some perspective on what both of those things

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Speaker 2: are like an election night, let's talk to our friend

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Speaker 2: Jim Renesi, who was a former congressman, businessman, and glad

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Speaker 2: to call him my friend, at least for the purposes

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Speaker 2: for this conversation. Anyway, mister Reneesi, how are you tonight?

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Speaker 7: I'm good, I think gary better question is how are

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Speaker 7: we all tonight? As we see a lot of things

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Speaker 7: happening across this country which aren't good for Republicans, that's

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Speaker 7: for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if they're not good for Republicans,

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Speaker 2: I kind of tend to disagree with them being bad

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Speaker 2: for Republicans necessarily in the places where you expect Democrats

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Speaker 2: to prevail, and those places were all the signature races

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Speaker 2: that turned out well for the Blue people. And so

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Speaker 2: I don't know how necessarily damaging this is for Republicans.

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Speaker 2: You have a different opinion, obviously, tell me why it's

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Speaker 2: just terrible for Republicans that in blue states like New Jersey, Virginia,

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Speaker 2: and the bluest of the blue metropolis is New York City,

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Speaker 2: that a Democrat or a Democrat socialist winning is necessarily

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Speaker 2: bad for the Republicans as a whole.

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Speaker 7: Well, see, I think those are the key races. But

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Speaker 7: I think if you look across the country, which I've

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Speaker 7: been trying to do, and even local races. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I'll give you example. In Wadsworth, Ohio, Yeah, the town

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Speaker 7: I live in, three Republicans were defeated by three Democrats

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Speaker 7: on city council. One Democrat nobody even knows who he is.

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Speaker 7: All he did was sign a petition never was seen.

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Speaker 7: So what that tells me on local elections, especially something

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Speaker 7: like that is people the Democrats were more engaged, Republicans

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Speaker 7: were more laxa daisical, which that's always what happens to

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Speaker 7: voter turnout is very low across the state of Ohio,

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Speaker 7: which is a whole other issue. And you know, I

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Speaker 7: think Republican enthusiasm was missing. Yeah, these these Democrats were

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Speaker 7: expected to win, but the margins also were pretty strong.

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Speaker 7: I mean, fifty six to forty three on the Virginia

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Speaker 7: governor's race. And let's not forget that Virginia was a

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Speaker 7: Republican governor. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know what's also curious to me is in the

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Speaker 2: polls previous two election day in Virginia, fifty seven percent

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Speaker 2: of those polled approved of Glenn Youngkin's job as governor.

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Speaker 2: Virginia has you can only serve one term at a

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Speaker 2: time in the Commonwealth of Virginia. So he wasn't termed out,

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Speaker 2: Younkin wasn't He just couldn't run again because he served

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Speaker 2: his term. I guess he could come back for another

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Speaker 2: bite at the apple in four years if that's what

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Speaker 2: he wanted to do. But people were generally very happy

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Speaker 2: with the job he was doing his governor, which that's

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Speaker 2: a curious thing to me.

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Speaker 7: Well exactly, and I think that's that's probably from a

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Speaker 7: national perspective, that's the one race that is probably more.

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Speaker 7: It should be more concerning for Republicans. But again, look

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Speaker 7: at the numbers. That's what's scary. The Virginia governor fifty

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Speaker 7: six forty two. I mean, these numbers, the lieutenant governor

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Speaker 7: fifty five forty four. These are not close races. And

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Speaker 7: yeah they're blues, they're blue states, but they were blue

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Speaker 7: states with a red governor. So that's uh, that's that

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Speaker 7: should be concerning. And the attorney general, the Republican attorney

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Speaker 7: general who everybody said was doing well, Jason my h.

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Speaker 2: Jason Myers lost to Jay Jones, a guy who, uh,

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Speaker 2: in any kind of right thinking society, would have had

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Speaker 2: absolutely no shot to be the top law enforcement officer

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Speaker 2: in the state. After threatening or fantasizing about putting a

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Speaker 2: bullet in the Republican Speaker of the House's head famously

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Speaker 2: or infamously, and watching fantasizing about watching his children die

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Speaker 2: in their mother's arms, and this guy got elected to

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Speaker 2: the position. I find that just shocking.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I think we're going to see that. I

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Speaker 7: do think there is a you know, it happens, it

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Speaker 7: always happens on the midterms after a Republican or Democrat

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Speaker 7: wins the presidency. I mean, Republicans have to get engaged.

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Speaker 7: I hope this is a wake up call. But like

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Speaker 7: I said, I think what we're going to find across

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Speaker 7: the country is that we're going to see a little

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Speaker 7: bit of a minor Democrat wave on the local races.

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Speaker 7: Even your even your Cincinnati mayor's race didn't appear to

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Speaker 7: be very close at all either. So again, you start

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Speaker 7: putting all these pieces together. Yes these are blue areas,

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Speaker 7: Yes these are blue counties, Yes these are blue states.

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Speaker 7: But you know, we've got we've got a Republican House,

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Speaker 7: or Republican Senate, a Republican House of representative, Republican president.

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Speaker 7: You would think there'd be a little wind behind the

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Speaker 7: cells to at least keep these things a little closer,

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Speaker 7: and they weren't. So that's the concern I have. But

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Speaker 7: I really the big concern is turnout, turnout, turnout. I

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Speaker 7: think what we're going to find, you know, yeah, in

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Speaker 7: Ohio it's going to you know, four years ago it

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Speaker 7: was a kneemic, and I think what we're going to

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Speaker 7: find in looking at these races, it's even worse. I mean,

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Speaker 7: turnout was up here in Northeast Ohio was about a

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Speaker 7: half of it was two of what it was two

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Speaker 7: years ago, and two years ago it was a name,

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Speaker 7: so people did not go out and vote. And when

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Speaker 7: that happens, whoever, who whatever team gets the most voters

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Speaker 7: out wins. And I think that's that's a little bit

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Speaker 7: of the concern I have as well.

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Speaker 2: You say two years ago, but I mean last year.

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Speaker 2: Obviously in the national election, we had major turnouts in

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati and many places around the country. But you can't

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Speaker 2: just turn out for the presidential elections. You have to

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Speaker 2: show up all the time. And you're right about the

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Speaker 2: apathy of Republicans seemingly dominating this particular particular off year election.

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Speaker 2: These are these aren't even the midterms, and like you said,

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Speaker 2: maybe this is the wake up call so there's not

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Speaker 2: a blue wave next November and everything switches over in

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Speaker 2: the House, in the Senate. I think that the Democrats

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Speaker 2: haven't done themselves any favor with this continuing government shutdown.

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Speaker 2: And you told me a month ago that or almost

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Speaker 2: a month ago, that the Democrats were winning the messaging

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Speaker 2: on the government shutdown. I don't believe that's the case certainly, now,

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Speaker 2: do you still?

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Speaker 7: All I can tell you is the polling still shows

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Speaker 7: a larger number blame the Republicans and Donald Trump. Then

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Speaker 7: they blamed Democrats. Now it's close, but it's you know,

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Speaker 7: it's like fifty five percent blame Republicans and Donald Trump

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Speaker 7: and four forty three percent blame Democrats. So I think

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Speaker 7: in the end it's leaning more to blaming Republicans. But

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Speaker 7: here's what'll be interesting, and I've been saying this in

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Speaker 7: some of my other appearances on radio and even my commentary.

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Speaker 7: Today will mark the day that Republicans and Democrats come

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Speaker 7: back and they will reopen this government. My opinion is

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Speaker 7: very quickly. They wanted to see Many people wanted to

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Speaker 7: see what happened with these elections. But now that this

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Speaker 7: election's over, there's not much to talk about except getting

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Speaker 7: back to work. And I'm hoping that we see an agreement.

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Speaker 7: I see Republicans and Democrats are working together in the Senate.

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Speaker 7: I'm hoping we can get this government open, because the

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Speaker 7: longer it stays close, I'm telling you, the people who

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Speaker 7: get the mass or the independence, and we did talk

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Speaker 7: about this and the Independence are blaming Republicans right now

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Speaker 7: more than they're blaming Democrats.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I'm amazed that somebody who calls himself an independent is

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Speaker 2: that misinformed of facts? Because when you see the Democrats continuing,

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Speaker 2: people like Schumer continually time after time saying we can't

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Speaker 2: shut the government down and then does it because he's

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Speaker 2: afraid he's going to get more flack that he got

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Speaker 2: last March when he agreed to keep the government open

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Speaker 2: from the far left wing of his party. And do

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Speaker 2: you think that Mandani signals the fact that the Democrat

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Speaker 2: Party is being taken over by Democrats socialists or communists.

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Speaker 2: Many people are pointing to that, and I think it's

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Speaker 2: a real distinct possibility with the popularity of the squad

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Speaker 2: and everything else that we've seen in the Democrat Party

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Speaker 2: over the last five to six years, maybe longer than that,

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Speaker 2: that they lean continually more and more socialist.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think that the polling that I've seen shows

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Speaker 7: that most people in New York City just wanted somebody different.

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Speaker 7: He is definitely different. And I have also seen polling

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Speaker 7: across this country that shows most people want outsiders, somebody

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Speaker 7: that is not known. You know. He fit into that

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Speaker 7: category as well. So I think you're going to see

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Speaker 7: more and more of that across the country. People are

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Speaker 7: fed up. I mean, let's face it, I think the

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Speaker 7: majority of Americans are fed up with their federal government,

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Speaker 7: their state government, their city governments, and they're looking for

718
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Speaker 7: a fresh face, a new face, a likable face. And

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Speaker 7: he just seemed to fit the bill, even though he

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Speaker 7: is a Democrat socialist.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he is.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you talk about controlling the means of production,

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Speaker 2: that's communism, Jim, no matter what he calls himself, that

725
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Speaker 2: is flat out communism. I heard somebody else talking about

726
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Speaker 2: being in the old Soviet Union back when and drop

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Speaker 2: Off was then the president of the USSR, who of

728
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Speaker 2: course was formerly with the KGB like Putin today, and

729
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Speaker 2: talking about how the constant rationing because you know, it's

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Speaker 2: a worker's paradise every you know, it was five cents

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Speaker 2: or whatever to to grab a ride on the metro

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Speaker 2: in Moscow, but if you wanted a pair of shoes

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Speaker 2: or clothes, they would do these big drop offs in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the marketplace, and there was no accounting

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Speaker 2: for size, there was no selection. There was nothing that

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Speaker 2: we have in this country or in free trade or

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Speaker 2: free enterprise capitalist countries where you have a selection of anything.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like ma'am Donnie's talking about these government

739
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Speaker 2: grocery stores in New York City and everywhere those have

740
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Speaker 2: been in the United States have failed miserably. But people

741
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Speaker 2: just here free and they think that that's freedom. And

742
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Speaker 2: that's I think a part of the education that needs

743
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Speaker 2: to go on for the electorate in this country to

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Speaker 2: make especially younger voters a gen Z voters, understanding that

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Speaker 2: free stuff is not freedom. There is a distinct difference,

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Speaker 2: don't you think.

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Speaker 7: Well, absolutely, and you and I can agree on that

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Speaker 7: all we want. The problem is is you just said

749
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Speaker 7: that the gen Z's don't see it that way. They

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Speaker 7: don't see the opportunity for the American dream. They don't

751
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Speaker 7: see this quick road to success. And of course their

752
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Speaker 7: roads to success normally is they want to do it

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Speaker 7: in two or three years. I kind of wish I

754
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Speaker 7: could have done it in two or three years, but

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Speaker 7: it just didn't work out that way. But in the end,

756
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Speaker 7: I think we're all going to learn some lessons and

757
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Speaker 7: there will be ups and downs, and you know, it's

758
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Speaker 7: the cycles of elections that we seem to continue to

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Speaker 7: have the only thing that concerns me more. And by

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Speaker 7: the way, I do believe that happened tonight across the country.

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Speaker 7: I think there was a lot more younger voters got

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Speaker 7: out and voted as well. You've got to remember many

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Speaker 7: of those voted for Donald Trump. So lots of things

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Speaker 7: to look at. Even though this is not a midterm election,

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Speaker 7: that should give pause to Republicans and again we should

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Speaker 7: have learned from it, uh one year to get prepared

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Speaker 7: for the midterms.

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Speaker 2: In New York City and many other of these Democrat enclaves. Jim,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to show an ID to vote. Oh yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: I agree, and you know that that's something that needs

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Speaker 2: to be corrected on a national scale.

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Speaker 7: Somehow, New York has is a world in itself, and

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Speaker 7: let's face it, they have not had the most conservative

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Speaker 7: Republican mayors. Of course, this is an extreme one here,

775
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Speaker 7: but it's one of the reasons why corporate America quite frankly,

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Speaker 7: has moved out of New York and New York City.

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Speaker 7: And I think what we're finding is Dallas, Texas is

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Speaker 7: becoming the new capital of uh, you know, marketplace and

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Speaker 7: world in New York and I'm sorry, United States businesses

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Speaker 7: or moving to Dallas, Texas, so we may see more

781
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Speaker 7: of that as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and if you were in New York, wouldn't would

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Speaker 2: you want to have keep your business there?

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Speaker 7: No, I'd rather go to Dallas. And I think that's

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Speaker 7: As I travel to Dallas, I find that Dallas is

786
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Speaker 7: more of the business capital of the United States now,

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Speaker 7: and I think a lot of it is because of

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Speaker 7: who they are electing in New York City. But again,

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Speaker 7: I see this as a little bit of a wake

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Speaker 7: up call. I hope Republicans realize that they cannot be anemic.

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Speaker 7: They have to get out and vote. I don't think

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Speaker 7: it would have changed things in New York City, but

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Speaker 7: I'm telling you of the other states, I think it

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Speaker 7: would have been a little bit closer than it ended

795
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Speaker 7: up being.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Jim Ornecy, thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: As always, my friend, and I really do appreciate you

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Speaker 2: being on with me.

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Speaker 7: Oh problem, Thank you you having good evening.

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Speaker 3: Hey you two sir.

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Speaker 2: After the news break, we'll have open phones, and I

802
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Speaker 2: have some thoughts about stuff that's more important than elections.

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Speaker 2: Phone lines open on this Tuesday evening nightcap on election day,

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Speaker 2: Gary jeffwin by one three seven, four nine hundred d

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Speaker 2: Big one numbers haven't changed the callers have over the years.

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Speaker 3: I remember a time.

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Speaker 2: When if you took a call, somebody was number one

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Speaker 2: ready to go on the air because they had something

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Speaker 2: to say.

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Speaker 3: They thought it was important that.

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Speaker 2: They had their voice heard, either agreeing with the host

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Speaker 2: or disagreeing with the host, or just maybe something else

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Speaker 2: they wanted to interject. And I would welcome any of those.

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Speaker 2: But today we have callers like Frank. I don't know Frank.

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Speaker 2: Frank's said he was from Western Hills, and you never know.

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Speaker 2: But Frank didn't want to go on the air, which

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Speaker 2: is kind of curious. Why would he call the line

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Speaker 2: if you don't want to go on the air. That's

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Speaker 2: the whole point of having a talk line. So the

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Speaker 2: forum is open for you so you can express something

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Speaker 2: that you think is in put. You're listening and you

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Speaker 2: want to participate. You want to add your voice to

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Speaker 2: the chorus or to the descent. No, Frank, and that's fine.

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Speaker 2: If you don't want to go on the air, they

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Speaker 2: don't call. But he did have a question for me,

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Speaker 2: and I guess I'll address it. Since Frank didn't stay

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Speaker 2: on the line and didn't want to go on the air,

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Speaker 2: what will New York city be like under Muslim law

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Speaker 2: or Sharia law. Well, that's certainly not anything ma'am Donnie

830
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Speaker 2: has directly said, because that would scare the bejeebers out

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Speaker 2: of people, even in New York City, if they thought

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Speaker 2: there was a possibility, If you thought there was a

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Speaker 2: possibility of Sharia law being implemented in our biggest city. Amazing,

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Speaker 2: But I guess anything is possible when you have a

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Speaker 2: Democrat socialist who was not born in this country, who

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Speaker 2: is Islamic, and you wonder about those big enclaves of

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Speaker 2: Islamic populations elsewhere in the United States. And of course

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Speaker 2: it's happened in other countries. It's happened in London, England,

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Speaker 2: It's happened other places that you normally would not think

840
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Speaker 2: would be subject to Sharia law necessarily. But we live

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Speaker 2: in a country that is ruled I thought, by the

842
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Speaker 2: rule of law, i e. The Constitution of the United States,

843
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Speaker 2: not Islam or you know where there are honor killings. Well,

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Speaker 2: I tell you what. The Queers for Palestine movement during

845
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Speaker 2: all of that Rigamaro and colleges across the country, the

846
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: anti Semitic protest, the Queers for Palestine always amazed me,

847
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Speaker 2: because if the Queers were in Palestine, they wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: living long. Don in Newport is on the line, Don, Hello,

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Speaker 2: how are you this evening?

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Speaker 3: That good?

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Speaker 8: I like that?

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Speaker 10: That was awesome. So yeah, Gary, I just can't believe

853
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Speaker 10: live on the in Newport, very close Cincinnati, and we

854
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Speaker 10: like to go to the family markets, you know, on Sundays.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was there.

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Speaker 8: There are a lot of.

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Speaker 10: Bears fans there that were that were there, and I

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Speaker 10: think I don't think I was home for more than

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Speaker 10: a few hours. And I think four people shot or

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Speaker 10: four different shootings right right in there. Didn't that happen

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Speaker 10: like last Sunday?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, that that'll make somebody from Chicago,

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Speaker 2: I guess feel right at home.

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Speaker 7: Well that's true, that's true.

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Speaker 10: Maybe maybe they maybe they brought they brought it with him.

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Speaker 10: But I mean, it's just how can you possibly explain,

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Speaker 10: help me understand how it's possible that people living in

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Speaker 10: Cincinnati can think that this is okay?

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Speaker 2: Well, what's amazing for me, Don, is that right across

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Speaker 2: that little expanse of river things, it's it's a night

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Speaker 2: and day difference. In northern Kentucky for the most part.

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Speaker 10: Rob Sanders was you know, I listened to him with

873
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 10: Willie all the time. Yeah, it's a different It's like

874
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 10: it's like two different country, you know, North Korea, South Korea.

875
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is. It's amazing.

876
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 2: Don in that short short period of time, you just

877
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 2: go across the bridge and it's like you're in a

878
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: different country almost.

879
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 10: Well, you know they were, they were so offended and

880
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 10: just taking it back. They I couldn't believe that when

881
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 10: the people stormed the suspension bridge and blocked traffic, the

882
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 10: officers actually did what they're supposed to do. Yes, I know,

883
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 10: you know they I mean they beat it, you know

884
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 10: they it looked like it looked like something if you

885
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 10: were to see it on tape. Hey, that's police brutality,

886
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 10: you know, like in Cincinnati, probably the cops would be

887
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 10: going to jail instead of the people that were causing

888
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 10: the problem.

889
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: Well, and as Rob Sanders said in the aftermath of that,

890
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: done keep that on the north side of the river.

891
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 3: Right right.

892
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 10: It's just hard to believe.

893
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: I'll tell you something. I moved to Cincinnati in nineteen

894
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 2: ninety four and moved up from Middle Tennessee in the

895
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: early nineties. Moved from Cincinnati in nineteen ninety four, and

896
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: then I moved across the river. I lived in Cincinnati

897
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: for six years. I moved across the river to Newport

898
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 2: in March of two thousand and I've never looked back,

899
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 2: and I was just amazed then at the change over,

900
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 2: just you know, a quarter of a mile across that

901
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: that span of water, and it was amazing to me.

902
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 3: I instantly felt at home.

903
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: I felt more safe, I felt more welcome, and and

904
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 2: I'm in basically I'm in the same city, but I'm not. Uh,

905
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 2: listen and enjoy enjoy your trips to Finley. I hope

906
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: you still can, and I hope you and your wife

907
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: and others are safe when they come over to downtown Cincinnati.

908
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: I generally am not doing anything in Cincinnati, but driving

909
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 2: through it up to Kenwood, that's just me.

910
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 10: Well, well it's you know insandly I think it's gonna

911
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 10: be one by one again where the you know, the

912
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 10: businesses leave. I I do a little bit of a

913
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 10: screen printing and laser engraving with some hats and I had,

914
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 10: you know, make Cincinnati safe again with the skyline in

915
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 10: the back and makes it say great again, because really,

916
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 10: there was a time when it was.

917
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 8: I mean, look back to Charlie lucandas.

918
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 3: Oh no, it it is such.

919
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 2: It's full of really wonderful people overall, and and it

920
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 2: has so much to offer. It's it's sad that it's

921
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 2: being so poorly mismanaged in my opinion. Thanks for the

922
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 2: phone call. Don go to jam and Amelia Amelia. Does

923
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: Amelia actually exist?

924
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 8: Jim?

925
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 11: Well, the village doesn't, but Amelia does.

926
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 2: In your heart, Amelia exists anyway. What's on your mind?

927
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 3: Jim?

928
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 11: Well, first of all, you know, I voted an Amelia

929
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 11: for this for the cops and the mts in the

930
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 11: mental health thing, and I think that was a good thing. Well,

931
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 11: what I want to know is, like from the left

932
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 11: and the right, who decided that you have to put

933
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 11: your headphones on the left side or the right side?

934
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 11: Can you reverse your headphones? So it sounds really good

935
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 11: if you reverse right and left. You know what I'm saying.

936
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure I do understand what you're saying,

937
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 2: but please continue. It's interesting at least even if I

938
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: don't understand what you're saying. So you're telling me that

939
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 2: I can take my headphones off and flip them over

940
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: to the other side, and it's going to be just

941
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: the same.

942
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 11: Well, I think it does, because, like I don't understand

943
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 11: who decided that my headphones had to be on the

944
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 11: left side on the right side. Why can't I reverse them?

945
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 11: I don't understand that. Who decided?

946
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 3: You know what?

947
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 2: You know what, Jim, I think you do what you

948
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: want to do in the privacy of your own home.

949
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: If they're your headphones and you're you're listening to your

950
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 2: headphones by yourself, you you do whatever you want to do.

951
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 11: Okay, I just I just didn't know if you knew

952
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 11: who told you know you're going to put it on

953
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 11: the left side on the right side. I don't I

954
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 11: don't get that.

955
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 2: Did it make a difference, Well, there is a left

956
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 2: channel and there is a right channel. If you're listening

957
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: to something in stereo, if you're listening in mono, it

958
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: makes absolutely no difference. Jim, thank you for calling, Raphael

959
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: and bond Hill. Good evening, sir, Good evening, Gary.

960
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 7: Jim.

961
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 6: A few moments ago, I think you were talking about

962
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 6: Mondamine up there in New York in the election. You

963
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 6: mentioned some things about sharia law that.

964
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Actually another listener had asked what New York City

965
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 2: is going to be like under sharia law.

966
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 3: And I said, well, and I heard that, Yeah, that's

967
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 3: that's the only thing.

968
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 8: I mean.

969
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: In fact, that is not it shouldn't be possible in

970
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: the United States of America because we're all under constitutional law,

971
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 2: not sharia law.

972
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 6: Now does that And that's what I was going to

973
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 6: chime in on specifically. And in the United States, the

974
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 6: Constitution is that the end all be all.

975
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 3: Yes, it is. It's the law of the land.

976
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: That's what sets us apart from other countries that have

977
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: constitutions in paper, but they don't mean anything from one

978
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: regime change to the next. In our country, we're consistently

979
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 2: under the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, and it

980
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: was written not for groups of people, but for the individual.

981
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 6: And does that Constitution apply to someone in the White

982
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 6: House blowing up fishing boats off the coast of Venezuela

983
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 6: without notifying Congress of that actions, or providing proof to

984
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 6: good old Americans like you and.

985
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:05,959
Speaker 2: I, or sending missiles and bombs as President Obama did

986
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: and President Biden have to other foreign countries without permission

987
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 2: from Congress. The president does have certain executive authority powers

988
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: that do include occasionally and sad as it has to

989
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 2: be the case of taking care of threats to the

990
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: United States of America. That is his, that is his

991
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 2: his charge, his commander in chief. Sometimes you take you

992
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 2: that's not an active war necessarily, it's an act of

993
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: protective safety for a country. If he, if the president

994
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 2: or the commander in chief believes that those drug boats

995
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 2: are an immediate threat to the United States, Yes, he

996
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 2: does have that power.

997
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 6: How many of those boats have reached the United States

998
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 6: prior to being blown up?

999
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 3: I have no idea, hopefully none.

1000
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 6: Should he should he have ideal and present it to

1001
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 6: American people.

1002
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 2: Well, I think would be a fantastic thing if the

1003
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: American people were all together and the Congress actually wasn't

1004
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 2: so divided that they would uh, they would agree with

1005
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 2: the commander in chief that those things are a threat,

1006
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 2: those emanating from Venezuela and Colombia, the drug cartels are

1007
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 2: a h what is it? An immediate and a clear

1008
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: and present danger to the country. I wish Congress would

1009
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 2: get on board. Yeah, sure, it'd be great.

1010
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 6: It would be amazing if that clear and imminent, immediate

1011
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,919
Speaker 6: danger would be Hey, if he believes, isn't it so much.

1012
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 7: Just present your evidence.

1013
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 6: But then again, I'm just gonna call BF owner Jerry Garrett, Jeff,

1014
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 6: you know.

1015
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 2: No, and and and you're entitled to your opinion. I

1016
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: gave you mine, right and I think and and not

1017
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: everything I don't rubber stamp is as good everything this

1018
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 2: president or any president does, Raphael, I will differ with

1019
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: them on policy issues right and left, but I happen

1020
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 2: to agree that the threat of fentanyl and the drug

1021
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 2: cartels that have been controlling these other countries and have

1022
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 2: thought that they had control of our border, which they

1023
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 2: did under four years of Joe Biden, It's time that

1024
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: they learn a lesson. They're not in control of our border.

1025
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 2: We are not Mexico or Venezuela or anybody else.

1026
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 6: Well that fentanyl. Is it true that more final comes

1027
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 6: across the border.

1028
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 3: Of Canada and they are interdicting that too.

1029
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 2: They just haven't had to blow up any they haven't

1030
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: had to blow up any dog sleds.

1031
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 6: Yet, right there, right And in China, you know, we

1032
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 6: hear talk about China and the fittanaff. I guess with

1033
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 6: the knife hand in hand relationship with President Prime Minister

1034
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 6: President g I guess that Pittona thing kind of just

1035
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 6: in the Chinese that goes on excuse I guess.

1036
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 2: It absolutely was not excused, and it absolutely was talked

1037
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 2: about in the latest summit in South Korea.

1038
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 3: Apparently you didn't hear that part what.

1039
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 6: Was said during that summit about fantanaff.

1040
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 2: Well, I wasn't there, but I know that everyone who

1041
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 2: was said that fentanyl was addressed with g when President

1042
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 2: Trump met with him.

1043
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 6: And should the American people be made privy of what

1044
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 6: was talked about in specifics, maybe about fentanyl since it's

1045
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 6: killing so me Americans from China.

1046
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I don't think that the president

1047
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 2: has the has the the charge of telling everything that

1048
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 2: he taught talks about to world leaders, to the public

1049
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 2: at large, or to our.

1050
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 3: Enemies or to the press. Raphael.

1051
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 2: There are certain things that, yeah, we don't need to

1052
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 2: know at the time. I appreciate your phone call, and

1053
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 2: I see where you're coming from. I don't believe that

1054
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 2: President Trump has to tell you everything he's going to

1055
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 2: do before he does it. I think that's been done

1056
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 2: way too often in American diplomacy with our enemies and

1057
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 2: our foes around the world and our friends. Even now

1058
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: is there somebody else that wants to get in real quick?

1059
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 2: Nick on the West side, we're running out of time

1060
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 2: in this half hour. I will tell you this. The

1061
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 2: election in Cincinnati is over. The races in Virginia, New Jersey,

1062
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 2: and New York City have been called. If you're a

1063
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 2: Republican or you care about things from a conservative point

1064
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 2: of view, not a good night, no question about that.

1065
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 3: But these are isolated cases.

1066
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 2: The most important thing you can do as a citizen

1067
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 2: of this country, and when you have the opportunity to do,

1068
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 2: is let your voice be heard. Whether you agree with

1069
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 2: the current administration or disagree with the current administration, whether

1070
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 2: you want change or you want the status quo. When

1071
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: you have the opportunity, you've got to go out and

1072
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: vote and let your voice be heard. Whether you're me

1073
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: or Raphael or Jim from Amelia who can't decide which

1074
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 2: side of the headphones he's going to listen on. When

1075
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: you have the chance to let your voice be heard,

1076
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 2: you got to shout it from the rooftops. Because we

1077
01:06:55,840 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 2: have that ability in this country. A lot of other

1078
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 2: places like Venezuela or Cuba or Communist China, they don't.

1079
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 3: We do. We're so blessed by God.

1080
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 2: The wild Man on the other side of news eleven

1081
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 2: o'clock and the four ball will join us before we're

1082
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 2: done tonight.

1083
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 3: Thanks for tuning in.

1084
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 2: And tune yet another hour of his Election Night Night

1085
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: tab Gary Jeff Walker's we get into the dregs of

1086
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 2: the jay into our final hour. I thought we would

1087
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 2: take a break from some of the election coverage because

1088
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 2: everything is all but decided. News will keep you update

1089
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 2: on any last second results that we get. It's been

1090
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 2: a huge news day obviously, with the ups plane crash

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Speaker 2: in Louisville. Three dead, they are eleven injured, and just

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01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: a fiery ball of well you probably have seen it

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01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 2: by now. I was shocked, as most people were, as

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01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 2: the plane didn't even make it off the runway in

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01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 2: Louisville at Maammad Ali International. And then of course elections

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01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: around the country including Virginia, New Jersey, New York City

1097
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 2: which is now a full blown communist state, and the

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01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati probably not too far behind. But with

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01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 2: that being said, how about an hour of sports for

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01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: the out of sorts?

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01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 3: And this guy is always.

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01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: Ready to sort out how out of sorts he really

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01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 2: is about any number of topics we bring back in

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01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 2: the sports commando the one and only wild Man Walker.

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01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 3: Hello, wild Man, how are you?

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01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 12: I'm doing good, Gary, Jeff. I did my part today

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01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 12: as a outstanding citizen and voted.

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01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 3: See, I didn't know you lived.

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01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 2: I didn't know you lived in the city of Cincinnati.

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01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 2: I thought you lived over on the east side, maybe

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01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 2: in Andrewson or side.

1112
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 12: Yeah, I lived technically right on the verge you know,

1113
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 12: of Cincinnati.

1114
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,480
Speaker 3: So yes, So did you vote? I legally? Then vote?

1115
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 3: Did you vote legally?

1116
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1117
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm voted legally. Vote legal.

1118
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 2: It's it's supposed to be a private, a secret ballot.

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01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 2: But who'd you vote for for mayor?

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Speaker 12: I'm not going to tell you, But do you think

1121
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 12: I would vote for mayor? Who would you think I

1122
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 12: would vote for mayor? Well, my guests, that's for sure.

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01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 2: My guests would be probably not have to have pr vall.

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01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 3: My guest would be got that.

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01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 12: Talk about it clueless. We out a touch persons.

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01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,759
Speaker 2: As opposed to a son of God and a pastor

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01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 2: named Corey Bowman, who I have supported the entire time.

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Speaker 2: That the thing is, if the city of Cincinnati cannot

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01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 2: turn out in an so called off your election for

1130
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 2: the most important position in the city of Cincinnati, the mayor.

1131
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 2: When public safety is the primary issue along a course

1132
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 2: with public services and protecting people, If they cannot understand

1133
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 2: that it's time for a change, then I don't know

1134
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 2: what what's happening.

1135
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:01,719
Speaker 3: I just threw up my hands.

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01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 12: I threw up my hands, and they, like you just said,

1137
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 12: they don't understand it's time for a change or something wrong.

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01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 3: I mean, how dumb can you be? How dumb can

1139
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 3: you be?

1140
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 8: You know?

1141
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 7: Move on?

1142
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let's move on.

1143
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 2: Let's talk about some sports stuff here in our last

1144
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 2: hour tonight, wild Man first and foremost, I want to

1145
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 2: get your take on the World Series just concluded this

1146
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 2: past weekend. Of course, been a few days now that

1147
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 2: had the parade in Los Angeles.

1148
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 3: I guess yesterday, Oh yeah.

1149
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 2: The victory parade and Magic Johnson's happy. The Dodgers again,

1150
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:39,560
Speaker 2: literally the best team money can buy, have purchased themselves

1151
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 2: another World Series. Your thoughts as you look back on

1152
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: a seven game classic.

1153
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 12: It was a great World Series Game six and seven

1154
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 12: or one for the ages. The Blue Jays have nothing

1155
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 12: to be ashamed of. In fact, they're probably kicking themselves

1156
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 12: as they had a number of opportunities to win the

1157
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 12: World Series at play at home, where we'll Smith barely

1158
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 12: got his foot on the home on the plate when

1159
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 12: the runner was coming home.

1160
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 3: And I mean, you look at that, go back and

1161
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 3: look at it.

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Speaker 12: If the guy would have had a better lead off

1163
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 12: third base, which I still don't understand, bad fundamentals right there,

1164
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 12: the Blue Jays would be celebrating to our third World

1165
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 12: Series title. Well, then let's give it Dodgers. Let's give

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01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 12: it to him man, Dave Roberts. He made some great

1167
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,560
Speaker 12: moves there. He put that out outfielder out in the

1168
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 12: centerfield pass past guy. I think at this tampascas something

1169
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 12: like that pet. They also brought in Ya Momoto.

1170
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Speaker 3: You know the pitch. I mean, he made some great moves.

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01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 2: Well, and you know, y'a Momoto's pitching on twenty four

1172
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 2: not even twenty four hours, rest.

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01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 3: Right right, pitching another classic in Game six. It was amazing.

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Speaker 2: It was amazing, And there were two incredible plays at

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01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 2: the plate by both teams in that last inning. I

1176
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 2: mean it was I couldn't believe, I said, didn't I

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01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: just see this last inning?

1178
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 3: It happened to go what the hell?

1179
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 12: But the but the one for the Blue Jays, and

1180
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 12: the guy had a better leadoff third base because the

1181
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 12: third base wasn't guard named. If you go back and

1182
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 12: look at the film, he would have scored, he would

1183
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 12: have scored in the series, would have been and would

1184
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 12: have went to the Blue Jays.

1185
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 3: But it was a great World Series.

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01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 2: It really was, no really, And it's the first time

1187
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 2: that I have actually watched and cared about a World

1188
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 2: Series in quite some time. And I wasn't disappointed on

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01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 2: Saturday night. I was maybe disappointed by the ultimate outcome,

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01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 2: but I wasn't disappointed with the entertainment value and the

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01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: quality of play because it was top notchi. It was

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01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 2: deserving of the last game of the season, there's no

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01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 2: question about that.

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01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 12: The only thing that disappointed me with the Dodgers winning

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01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 12: the World Series. They finally broke the street that the

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01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 12: Reds had being the last National League team that went

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01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 12: back to back World Series in seventy five and seventy six.

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Speaker 12: Before that, it was the twenty one to twenty two

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01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 12: New York Giants, so that record had stood for a

1201
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 12: long time. Now the Dodgers have that record. I mean,

1202
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 12: they kept talking about it hadn't been done ten years.

1203
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 12: But if you go back to the National League and

1204
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 12: been done in seventy five seventy six, and that was

1205
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 12: the Reds.

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01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 2: What about Terry Francona getting some postseason nods?

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01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 3: Is you know?

1208
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 12: I like he has no chance. That goes to Pat Murphy.

1209
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 12: Pat Murphy hands down, Pat Murphy hands down.

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01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 3: All right, But I mean it's still it's nice. And

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01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

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01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 12: The Brewers aren't messing around either, Gary jem I'll tell

1213
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 12: you right now. They've already said bye bye to Wilson Contreras,

1214
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 12: They've already said bye bye to Rhys Hoskins, and they've

1215
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 12: also said bye bye to Gwincna, the pitcher. So they

1216
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 12: got something going on. They got something going on up

1217
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 12: their sleeve that they're preparing for this season. They just

1218
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 12: slash some big time payroll there.

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01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 2: Do the Reds have anything up their sleeves? Wild Man,

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01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:41,440
Speaker 2: that's the question.

1221
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 7: As of right now.

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01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 12: I don't think they're going to go out and spend

1223
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 12: spend any big money, No doubt it.

1224
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 2: I mean.

1225
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 3: A lot of people have said this to me, and

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01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 3: I agree.

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01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 12: I think the Reds out of trade Hunter Green his

1228
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 12: value has never been better. Hunter Green's never going to

1229
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 12: pitch a full season for us. Let's be honest with you.

1230
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 3: He hasn't yet and if he hasn't, he's not going to.

1231
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 12: But he would even bring the red something in value

1232
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 12: they have because they've got plenty of pitching now. The

1233
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 12: Reds are stepped, were stacked with starting pitching, and I

1234
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 12: would dangle out there, Hunter Green and see what they

1235
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 12: could possibly get. Well, here's here's a question. Let's switch sports,

1236
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 12: wild man.

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01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 2: Do the Bengals ever get another full season out of

1238
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow at quarterback?

1239
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 3: A lot of people have questioned this.

1240
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 12: Well, you know, Joe's had every injury known the man.

1241
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 12: I mean, that's just that he's just unfortunate. I mean,

1242
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 12: he didn't have any of those injuries in college. But

1243
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 12: a lot of goes back to the to the old

1244
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 12: line not protecting them. I mean, Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow

1245
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 12: is gonna play, and he's gonna play next year.

1246
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 3: He's not gonna play this year again.

1247
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 12: For the one million time, Garry Jeff, anybody thinks that

1248
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 12: Joe Burrow's gonna take a snap the rest of the

1249
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 12: season with this lost season or out of their mind,

1250
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 12: a turn too.

1251
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 3: Injury takes a year to rehab.

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01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,600
Speaker 12: If you don't believe me, go call Deon Sanders and

1253
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 12: ask him he had to retire early. He had a

1254
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 12: great career to retire early because of a turf toe injury.

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01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 12: Joe is not taking a snap the rest of the year.

1256
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 12: And if you want to talk about the Bengals, Okay,

1257
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,600
Speaker 12: they traded. They traded Logan Wilson, a linebacker. Would they

1258
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 12: get a seventh round draft pickles? They didn't get nothing.

1259
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 12: They really didn't get nothing. And Logan Wilson had fell

1260
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,879
Speaker 12: out of favor with the with Al Golden and their

1261
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 12: defensive scheme, and that that's why that's.

1262
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 2: Why he wasn't That's why he wasn't playing. Trey Hendrickson

1263
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: is exactly. Trey Hendrickson isn't going anywhere. Were you surprised

1264
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: about that? I mean, they could have maybe gotten something

1265
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 2: for Trey.

1266
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 12: They maybe they could have got something for Tray, but

1267
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 12: I think they're they asking price is too high.

1268
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 3: I think they asking price is too high.

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01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 12: And even if if he won't be here next year,

1270
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 12: but they'll get the draft pick for him, they be

1271
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 12: signed with somebody. So that's why they're holding that card back.

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01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:49,759
Speaker 12: They won't franchise tag him. No, they won't franchise tag him. No, No,

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01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 12: I'd be very surprised, all right.

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01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 2: So somebody sent me this on AX after Sunday's meltdown,

1275
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 2: a second melttown in a row where the Bengals should

1276
01:15:58,680 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 2: have won a game.

1277
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 3: And here it was the post on X from a friend. Today.

1278
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 2: The Bengals had kick off return for a touchdown, a block,

1279
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: field goal on sidekick recovery, five hundred yards of offense,

1280
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:15,719
Speaker 2: two wide receivers with one hundred plus yards, fifteen points

1281
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 2: scored in less than a minute, forty two total points

1282
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 2: scored and lost.

1283
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 3: How does that happen? Well?

1284
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 12: What about the what about the dumb play lining up

1285
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,759
Speaker 12: wrong on off side on the block on the field goal.

1286
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 3: That the that they that they missed?

1287
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 12: Yes, dj Ivory, how do you line up? How do

1288
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,719
Speaker 12: you line up wrong? That cost the Bengals big time?

1289
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 12: That cost the Bengals big time. And of course I

1290
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 12: got to get this in here. The touchdown that won

1291
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 12: the game for the Bears. That receiver was wearing number

1292
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 12: eighty four, gets you war number eighty four for the Bengals.

1293
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 3: Bob Trumpy Bob Trump.

1294
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 12: He wore number eighty four here and Bob Trumpy, you know,

1295
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 12: had passed earlier in the day. I'm watching this guy,

1296
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 12: eighty four tight end catch the ball Peter Becas I'm

1297
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 12: going on.

1298
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: Was it the spirit of Bob Trumpy that caught that

1299
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 2: ball in the end zone against.

1300
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 3: The Bengals live? I think it might have been.

1301
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 12: And I'm really, I'm really, I'm really sad that that

1302
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 12: Bob Trumpy did not did not get the recognition that

1303
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 12: he really had deserved for being one of the best

1304
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 12: tight ends in Bengals history. There are two of the

1305
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 12: best tight ends in Bengals history should be up on

1306
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 12: that wall, Bob Trumpy and Rodney Holman. Rodney Holman holds

1307
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 12: the career record for most receptions by a tight end

1308
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,560
Speaker 12: with thirty six touchdowns.

1309
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 3: Trumpy had thirty five.

1310
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 12: Rodney Holman played on that Super Bowl team and he

1311
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 12: gets no recognition. Tyler Eifert might have been the best ever,

1312
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 12: but he couldn't stay healthy. But Bob Trump, he should

1313
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 12: have been honored, And now he probably won't be. He

1314
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 12: might be, you know, coach Kim Riley, but I really

1315
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 12: doubt it. But Bob Trump, he should have been honored

1316
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 12: as part of the Ring of Honor. And now he's

1317
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 12: not going to be well.

1318
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 3: Not well. He's alive. He may be posthumously.

1319
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 12: And the one thing about Bob Trumpy, he created sports

1320
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 12: talk in his town. He will always be the king

1321
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 12: of sports talk. Might not like agreed with him a

1322
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:07,560
Speaker 12: lot of times.

1323
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 3: But he was.

1324
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 12: He was great at his craft and he did great

1325
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 12: on television. One of the great stories, Gary Jeff, I'll

1326
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 12: never forget about Bob Trumpy. He had some old guy

1327
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 12: calling him up one night and said, Eric Davis. You know,

1328
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 12: this was early in Eric Davis' career and Eric Davis

1329
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 12: had got hit right and almost into co cononas right

1330
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 12: on the side. This guy said to Bob Trumping, it

1331
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 12: was Pete Rose's job to make sure that Eric Davis

1332
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 12: had a cup on. And Trumpy's laugh, which was you

1333
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 12: could hear him when he laughed to a shake windows

1334
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 12: Trump about fell out of the chair laugh, and that

1335
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 12: this old man said that it was Pete Rose's job

1336
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 12: to make sure that Eric Davis wore a cup.

1337
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 2: I only met Bob Trumpy a few times and talked

1338
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 2: to him extensively a couple of times back in the

1339
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 2: Mount Adams days wild and yes, he was quite the

1340
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 2: care He had great stories. He's the one that told

1341
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 2: me about his pinkle teammate Mike Reid on his way

1342
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 2: to becoming a hit Nashville songwriter. And he told me

1343
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 2: the original story about Mike Read telling him that Mike

1344
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:16,759
Speaker 2: had been on the road for a couple of months

1345
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 2: traveling and performing, you know, when he was trying to

1346
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 2: pursue the music career after football, and his wife was

1347
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 2: upset because Mike Reed had been gone. And he said,

1348
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 2: Mike Reid's wife said, you're like a stranger in this house.

1349
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,679
Speaker 2: And Mike Reid said, hold on, honey, in the middle

1350
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,560
Speaker 2: of the argument and went and wrote that song Stranger

1351
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 2: in My House for Ronnie millsp And it made him,

1352
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 2: he said it was he said.

1353
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 3: He told him that.

1354
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 2: Mike Reid said it was the best argument he'd ever

1355
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 2: had with his wife. It was perfect. But Trumpy, Uh,

1356
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,799
Speaker 2: And guess where most of our conversations took place between

1357
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 2: me and Trumpy the few we had out on the

1358
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 2: smoking patio in Mount Adams.

1359
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 12: Because he smoked like a great train. I know he

1360
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 12: did afraid. He was relentless.

1361
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 5: Man.

1362
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 12: Did you did you ever read his book that he

1363
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 12: wrote years ago. A great book, A great book by

1364
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 12: Bob is it?

1365
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 6: Is it better?

1366
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: Is it better than wild Man's book?

1367
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 12: It's it's right about but it's probably right about dead even.

1368
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 3: That's right about dead even. Yeah.

1369
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, So tell me, tell me something about the Trumpy

1370
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 2: book that makes it a great book.

1371
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 12: Wild Man, well, he just didn't need well, he did not.

1372
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 12: He did not mince words with the Bengals front office.

1373
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 12: He had not not not bad things to say, but

1374
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 12: he was very critical. He had made him No, he

1375
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 12: did not hold back, and that was that was great

1376
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 12: a hit. That's like me when I got in the

1377
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 12: radio business. I never held back. I had a free

1378
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 12: reign to say pretty much what I wanted to say.

1379
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 12: Trumpy did it trump?

1380
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 5: Is?

1381
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 2: You know, shot from the hip, But he told it

1382
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 2: like it is. Why do you think I have you

1383
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 2: on the show?

1384
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 3: I know, all right?

1385
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 12: So you know we we have Willie. Willie always says,

1386
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 12: I speak truth to power.

1387
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 2: We haven't heard yet about your reaction to and again

1388
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 2: it's been a few days. We're a little long in

1389
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 2: the tooth because I don't have a show every day.

1390
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 2: But you wanted to talk about UC's football's demise at Utah.

1391
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 3: It was they.

1392
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 2: I mean, Utah was favored at home against the Bearcats,

1393
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 2: and we saw why any any comments on that loss

1394
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 2: for UC.

1395
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, what what film you have of it? Throw it

1396
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 12: in the trash and forget about it. I mean that

1397
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 12: was just everything that could go wrong did go wrong

1398
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 12: for the Bearcats. They had penalties, they couldn't drop passes,

1399
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 12: it was just everything. They were out of sync from.

1400
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 12: I could only watch them, like the third quarter. I

1401
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 12: had to turn it off. I said, this is you know,

1402
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 12: this is terrible. I'm gonna sit here subject myself to

1403
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 12: watching this scarbage. And again, you know, it's only one loss,

1404
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 12: and they're.

1405
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 3: Seven and two.

1406
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 12: They got a shot at winning ten games. They're going

1407
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 12: to go to the ball. They got BYU coming in here.

1408
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 12: They got a couple of their tough games, but just

1409
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 12: throw this one. You know, every team has a bad

1410
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 12: law in every team, every team has a bad loss.

1411
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 3: So that in attraction and forget about it.

1412
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 2: No no doubt about that, Okay, wild man, Well, I

1413
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 2: think we've covered everything except basketball season has now officially begun,

1414
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 2: and every team of note around here wound up winning

1415
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 2: their opening games resoundingly U see Xavier Nku. I mean

1416
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 2: everybody was a winner pretty much.

1417
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, and I need a program for right now when

1418
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 12: I'm watching UCM, Xavier goes. I don't know any of

1419
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 12: those Scotts. Well they had a bear Cat, know any

1420
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 12: of those guys.

1421
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 2: Bear Cats have a freshman I can't remember his name

1422
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 2: who was had eighteen points in his debut and it

1423
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 2: was the first bear Cat freshman to ever score that

1424
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 2: many points in the debut.

1425
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 3: So well, he's got that going for.

1426
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 12: It's a long road. It's a long road. I mean,

1427
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 12: who they play Western Carolina? Come on, man, I mean

1428
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 12: that game is over in the first quarter. I turned

1429
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 12: it on and I've watched the first quarters that I've

1430
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 12: seen enough, Like lou Banella would say, that game is

1431
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 12: a rout. Xavier had to you know, we're taken to

1432
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 12: the last, you know, the last minute of the game

1433
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 12: before they got rid of Marist and that NK you

1434
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 12: might have played might as well played little Sisters of

1435
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 12: the poor playing West you see West Claremont. I didn't

1436
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 12: even know they had the team. Come on, that's why

1437
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 12: are you playing a team?

1438
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 2: And somebody, somebody said, there was hardly anybody at the

1439
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 2: Xavier game.

1440
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 3: That looked empty.

1441
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 12: And the Miami RedHawks. You know, I forget who they played,

1442
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 12: but they won. But like you said, everybody won. Basketball

1443
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 12: season is here. Can you believe it?

1444
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 8: It is here?

1445
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 2: It's about time, all right, wild Man. That's the way

1446
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 2: the ball bounces tonight. Thanks for your contributions on our

1447
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 2: special election night nightcap, and then those races are pretty

1448
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 2: much all over. But the crying, and there's probably some

1449
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 2: crying going on in places, but wild Man, thank you

1450
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 2: for not crying.

1451
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 3: Well, I haven't started crying yet, but I might.

1452
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 2: Well if you're living in if you're living in Cincinnati,

1453
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:01,879
Speaker 2: you might have good reason. Yes, wild Man and Furman

1454
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 2: is coming on next as we continue our last hour

1455
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 2: together tonight on seven hundred w l W. Because I

1456
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 2: don't have a whole lot of opportunities to be with

1457
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 2: you on these airwaves, a couple of nights a week,

1458
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 2: maybe Saturday mornings, which I love, by the way, but

1459
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 2: because our time is limited and I consider our time

1460
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 2: precious together, I feel like it is my duty to

1461
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 2: bring you consistently the finest guest when I do have

1462
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 2: an opportunity on the night caps, and when I can't

1463
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 2: find one of those finer guests. I can always call

1464
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 2: Andy Furman. I'm kidding now, Andy, Andy, this may be

1465
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 2: and you don't know. I don't know, nobody knows, only

1466
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 2: God knows. This could be the last time we ever

1467
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 2: have a chance to talk together on the air, because

1468
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 2: there will be nobody that has a parade if you

1469
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 2: and I never talk on the air again. Andy, maybe

1470
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 2: maybe maybe somebody, maybe some corporate bean counter perhaps, but

1471
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 2: other than that. So I relish the opportunity once again

1472
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 2: to go ted to ted Mano oh Mano with the

1473
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 2: fur Ball on a Tuesday evening. Welcome to the Nightcap

1474
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 2: Election Edition special, Andy.

1475
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm really glad to be with you. You

1476
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 5: know that I look forward to these little chats every week.

1477
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 5: I just have enough time to get my blood boiling

1478
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 5: and then I just hang up on.

1479
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 3: You, which is great. I like that.

1480
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 5: It's a good thing, and I don't dwell on it much.

1481
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 5: But I think we need to touch on the Bengals

1482
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 5: because I really think to some extent, all of a sudden,

1483
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 5: now has Dupe Tobin become an idiot? I mean really,

1484
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 5: I mean these people wanted to come forth and speak.

1485
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 5: What is he going to say? And what is the

1486
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 5: media going to write? So I don't understan. I just

1487
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 5: go the distance. You know, when you're in the thick

1488
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 5: of the storm, you just jump on board with everybody else.

1489
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 5: You know. One media person says it's Duke Tobin's fault.

1490
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 5: You know, he's to play a personnel guy. And another person,

1491
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 5: oh yeah, and the next person all the way he

1492
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 5: needs to speak in his choice says, why we know

1493
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 5: how big the team is, and certainly they're partially responsible

1494
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 5: to him. But I think all roads head back to

1495
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 5: Zach Taylor.

1496
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 3: Thanks number one, number number two, number two.

1497
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 5: Duke Tobin has been there like for like nineteen twenty years.

1498
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, now he's become an idiot. I mean,

1499
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 5: back off just a little bit. They're bad players that

1500
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 5: have not messed together. Lou hen Rolmos should have been there.

1501
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 3: Still.

1502
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 5: I think Zach Taylor basically has been a poor choice

1503
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 5: of assistant coaches and coordinators. And I'll leave you with

1504
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 5: this and you can tell me if I'm right or

1505
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 5: wrong on this. The biggest, biggest problem the Bengals have

1506
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 5: always had has never hired a big name coach who

1507
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 5: has had NFL coaching experience. Let's take a quick peak.

1508
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 5: Let's take the look. Zach Taylor was not even a coordinator.

1509
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 5: He was a quarterbacks coach. I'm not saying there's not

1510
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 5: the name of football, the game of football, but you

1511
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:10,600
Speaker 5: need to have a guy that when walks into the

1512
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 5: locker room, commands that immediate respect and forrest. Gregt was

1513
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 5: one of the only coaches that did. Dave Schulett did not.

1514
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 5: Bruce Kosa did not. You know, perhaps some extent that

1515
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 5: maybe Sam Weise did. I think Marbret Lewis did, because

1516
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 5: I remember when he was hired.

1517
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 8: What did he do?

1518
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 5: He walked into the clubhouse, and he walked into that

1519
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 5: first news conference and I was there, and he showed

1520
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 5: off that Baltimore Ravens Super Bowl ring. He walked through

1521
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 5: an instant credibility. No one else has ever done that.

1522
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 2: On that Dangos teams, well, I mean they had Dick

1523
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 2: Lebaux for a season, and Dick Lebau one of the

1524
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 2: most successful defensive coaches in the history of the league

1525
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 2: when he came here from Pittsburgh, and he went right

1526
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 2: back to Pittsburgh after, you know, having his tail between

1527
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 2: his legs after that fiasco. But Dick Lebau. I think

1528
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 2: commanded some respect, don't you think or should it?

1529
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 5: I think it's very difficult when a guy moves from

1530
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 5: an assistant or a coordinated to the head job. I'm

1531
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 5: the same team. I think that you could go because

1532
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,879
Speaker 5: you're a different relationship with the players, your buddy buddies.

1533
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,759
Speaker 5: You're in the coordinator, you're in those little team meeting rooms,

1534
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,600
Speaker 5: and you're not overseeing. You're not the guy that's changing

1535
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 5: or molding the franchise or trying to get the culture together.

1536
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 5: You know, the head coach doesn't do much teaching, but

1537
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 5: he brings everybody together. That's what he does. And it's

1538
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 5: a difficult thing for a the COORDINATETD to do that,

1539
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 5: and b for the players to see a change in

1540
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 5: the guy who is your buddy buddy, who's like your

1541
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 5: coffee don and now he's like you're a leader, and

1542
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 5: it's a different feeling.

1543
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 3: It's very difficulty.

1544
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:41,959
Speaker 5: Even in the workplace.

1545
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 3: Is difficult.

1546
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 5: Don't you think that it is.

1547
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 2: I've heard some people say, and I can't disagree with

1548
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 2: them at all that I believe it's obvious Zach Taylor

1549
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 2: has lost the locker room and it goes to the

1550
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 2: point that you're making commanding respect and deserving earning that

1551
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 2: respect from the players. And I just don't think that

1552
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: there's anybody in that Bengals locker room who's looking to

1553
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor for leadership because they haven't seen it out

1554
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 2: of him the entire time he's been here.

1555
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 5: You know, you could tell a leader from a mile away.

1556
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 5: And when it comes to coaching, I would say this,

1557
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 5: most coaches know their game that they're coaching, Otherwise they

1558
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 5: wouldn't be in it. I mean, they know the exes

1559
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 5: and those I don't talking about football, tasketball ever. They are.

1560
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 5: But there's a difference between the leader and a guy

1561
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 5: who just controlled be a teacher.

1562
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 8: I don't give you an example.

1563
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:34,520
Speaker 3: Wes Miller, the basketball.

1564
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 5: Coach, and you see not a leader.

1565
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 11: He's not.

1566
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 5: He may know the game, he may have been great

1567
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 5: on the interview. I don't know why he did, you know,

1568
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 5: and he came from a program there was really a

1569
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 5: small program, a lower level Division one school, and he

1570
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 5: had some success there. He has not had any success whatsoever.

1571
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 5: You see, they have not made postseason play since he's

1572
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 5: been there. And I got to believe that has a

1573
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 5: lot to do with his leadership qualities. I see you

1574
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 5: on the bench, I could see, I could see the

1575
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 5: way he acts. I just I know he's not a

1576
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 5: leader Bob Huggins command and respect. I mean when he

1577
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 5: had his first news conference, I was there. You know

1578
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 5: what he said and someone asked, what do you expect

1579
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 5: you know, growing pains and how long it's going to take.

1580
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 5: I expect to win now, that's what he said. You

1581
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 5: know well said that Kirk Signetti when he was high

1582
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:22,640
Speaker 5: from James Madison to become the football coach at Indiana University.

1583
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 3: What do you expect, Kirk?

1584
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 5: I expect to win?

1585
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 3: Now you know what he did.

1586
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 5: Indiana has a chance to win the national.

1587
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 3: Championship of football. Isn't that crazy?

1588
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 5: Three years ago?

1589
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 3: You're crazy?

1590
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 2: No, that's that's completely true and completely nuts all at

1591
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 2: the same time. With IU football, and if they weren't

1592
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 2: playing in the same conference with Ohio State, you could

1593
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 2: make an.

1594
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 3: Argument that they're the best team in the Big Ten.

1595
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 2: I still think the buck guys are and I think

1596
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 2: the Buckeys are more likely to win a national championship

1597
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:54,719
Speaker 2: than the Hoosiers.

1598
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 3: But they got a they got a puncher's chance.

1599
01:30:57,960 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 8: To do that.

1600
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,560
Speaker 3: They are really, really good, no doubt about that. I

1601
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 3: will tell you this much.

1602
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 5: I mean, one of the reasons why James Franklin got

1603
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 5: fired as coach at Penn State not because it was

1604
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 5: one of most records. You know, certainly he couldn't beat

1605
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 5: the Big ten teams, He couldn't beat the top ten teams,

1606
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 5: and his record was horrendous against top ten competition. But

1607
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 5: the fact that he just was not compatible, he wasn't friendly,

1608
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 5: and that hurts. You know what we else it heard.

1609
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 5: It hurt coach Brian Kelly at LSU. There was some

1610
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 5: talk now and I've read these reports that he didn't

1611
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 5: even know the names of the players on the team.

1612
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 3: What that's how bad it was.

1613
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 2: Now, how can you, I know, you've got seventy or

1614
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,759
Speaker 2: eighty athletes on some of these major college football teams.

1615
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 2: I get that, But how do you not know the

1616
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:46,759
Speaker 2: names of players that you helped recruit that you're coaching

1617
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 2: every day?

1618
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 3: How does that happen? I don't know.

1619
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 5: I just don't know. When I read that, I was shot.

1620
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 5: And the point is that he just sort of went

1621
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,640
Speaker 5: his own way. And you know, again, his record was

1622
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 5: not that bad. I mean, they expect a lot of

1623
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 5: LSU but his record is not a bad record, and

1624
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 5: he just look, he started off like a fool trying

1625
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 5: to have that that Cajun accent that the news conference

1626
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 5: when he was hired. I mean, you don't do that,

1627
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, that doesn't endear you to the community.

1628
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 5: It really doesn't.

1629
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,719
Speaker 2: Like a political candidate who suddenly is in a church

1630
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 2: in Atlanta and starts sounding like she just came off

1631
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:28,680
Speaker 2: the plantation. I'm not naming any names, Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harrison. Uh,

1632
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 2: but yeah, there's there's a lack of authenticity to all

1633
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 2: of that, and real matters to people, you know what,

1634
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 2: as much as leadership, as much as leadership and uh,

1635
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 2: commanding presidents matters. In sports, authenticity matters because the players

1636
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 2: can tell if you're a phony or not, just like

1637
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 2: the public can tell usually if a politician is phony

1638
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 2: or not over over a propensity of time with a

1639
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 2: with it, you know, the evidence gathered in a campaign,

1640
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 2: you can tell if somebody's a real person or not,

1641
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 2: or if they're putting on an act, if it's a performance.

1642
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 2: And obviously the thing you noted about Brian Kelly is

1643
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 2: that was performative theater.

1644
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:14,679
Speaker 3: It wasn't real.

1645
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Brian Brian Kelly's he's a Midwest guy period.

1646
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 8: You know.

1647
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 5: And here's the thing. I mean, I think that these

1648
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,600
Speaker 5: coaches when they get hired, I'm not so certain the

1649
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 5: athletic directors do a great background check. They usually hire

1650
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 5: these these agencies, these companies that kind of do the interviews,

1651
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 5: and they come back and say, here's the guys two

1652
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 5: or three by the being, but a bangal ahead and

1653
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 5: hire them. You know, if you're the athletic thirty, you

1654
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 5: do your homework and you see the way he left

1655
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 5: the University of Cincinnati. Yeah, I don't want any part

1656
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 5: of this guy. No, it doesn't have a part of

1657
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 5: the community. He just left like in the middle of

1658
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 5: the night.

1659
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 3: You just you don't do that.

1660
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 5: And he just left Cincinnati. Hang in the bag.

1661
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 3: Remember that it was terrible.

1662
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 2: It was a bad football weekend for me all the

1663
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:56,879
Speaker 2: way around.

1664
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 3: Andy.

1665
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 2: I mean the Bengal obviously they're not my primary team,

1666
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 2: my primary team or the Kansas City Chiefs. And they

1667
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 2: got beat during the regular season by Buffalo again. They're

1668
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 2: now one in five against the Buffalo Bills in the

1669
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 2: regular season. The good thing is that they're four to

1670
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:20,559
Speaker 2: oh in the playoffs in the postseason against the Bills, so,

1671
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 2: I mean.

1672
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 5: And the Bills usually collapse in the playoffs anyway, so

1673
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 5: you don't do to worry about, so.

1674
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:25,479
Speaker 6: You know.

1675
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 2: And then the Bengals loss, and I'm down in Tennessee

1676
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 2: on Sunday visiting my parents and they had to deal

1677
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:37,520
Speaker 2: with another Titans loss that looked like it looked promising

1678
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 2: from the beginning, and that poor woefull NFL team in Tennessee.

1679
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 3: Gosh, I'm great.

1680
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 2: I'm glad that I don't live there. I mean, at

1681
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:47,639
Speaker 2: least the Bengals have done something.

1682
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 3: Well. You know, I a would say this, and.

1683
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 5: I'm not saying I'm the guy I lists at the

1684
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 5: bright side of things all the time, because I could

1685
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 5: be pretty hard at that times as well. But you know,

1686
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 5: I still would rather have a bad football team in

1687
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 5: this city that have no football team really, because you know,

1688
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 5: you're a lost city without an NFL franchise. I mean,

1689
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 5: I think I can a little without Major League Baseball,

1690
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 5: I really do. I mean, I love the Reds, but

1691
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 5: but the something will be rough. You know, you're right

1692
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:15,599
Speaker 5: about that.

1693
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

1694
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 5: I mean, without football will be really tough. It will

1695
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 5: be tough for an NFL team here, wouldn't it?

1696
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 3: Okay?

1697
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 2: And the Bearcats lost down the road at Utel, which

1698
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:27,520
Speaker 2: which a lot of people expected, maybe not the Bearcats

1699
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 2: players yet. And and my Vanderbilt Commodores went into Texas

1700
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 2: that it had an up and down season up to

1701
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 2: this point with a very famous named quarterback, young quarterback

1702
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 2: arch Manning at the helm against my guy, Diego Pavia,

1703
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:47,600
Speaker 2: and it looked like Vanderbilt was going to get absolutely

1704
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 2: shellacked too. But that comeback at the end when they

1705
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 2: score and it's a three point game, and then they

1706
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 2: almost recover the on side kick at the end with

1707
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 2: like seventeen seconds with a chance to win. That was

1708
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 2: an exciting football game, but again, very disappointing for me ultimately.

1709
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 5: But I still think they have a postseason play. They

1710
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 5: can be in the college football Tournament.

1711
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:15,560
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely no.

1712
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:19,679
Speaker 2: They're six two in the SEC.

1713
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 5: Tennessee. They got a big game against Tennessee. They got

1714
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 5: to beat Tennessee.

1715
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,440
Speaker 2: They got to beat Auburn, they got to beat Kentucky,

1716
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:29,799
Speaker 2: they got to beat Tennessee. They do all that, They'll

1717
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 2: have ten wins on the season and they going to

1718
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 2: a major bowl game, or they could be in the

1719
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 2: College the twelve teams.

1720
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 3: They could.

1721
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 5: I'm not wrong, they will be, you know, I really

1722
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 5: think they will be. And it's amazing what that school

1723
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 5: is dumb because you know, for years I thought that

1724
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 5: school should probably be in the IVY League with schools

1725
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 5: like Brown and Colombia, Penn and Princeton. Really well there

1726
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 5: academically sure their.

1727
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:56,839
Speaker 2: Admission their admission standards are about the same as opposed

1728
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 2: to the other SEC state schools where you got where

1729
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 2: you get, you get a two point zero and you

1730
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 2: just barely made a see and said, yeah, he's he's

1731
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:08,560
Speaker 2: a genius put the criminal justice.

1732
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's kind of crazy how they even

1733
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:13,760
Speaker 5: got into that conference with those schools. Don't you think

1734
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 5: that there's nothing common them, right, I mean, there's no

1735
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 5: common thread between those those schools. And then really maybe

1736
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 5: they brought them in to bring the average GPA up

1737
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 5: in the league.

1738
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 2: Well either that or to get a guaranteed win for

1739
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 2: teams like Alabama and Georgia. Maybe that was no, no, no,

1740
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 2: So anyway, just not a fulfilling college football weekend for me.

1741
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 3: And I'm trying to feel better.

1742
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 5: Well, you can't because of what I did, and for

1743
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 5: some reason I turned I turned the game on the radio.

1744
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 5: I don't know why I didn't turn on the team

1745
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 5: for somebody, I turned the game on radio, and next

1746
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 5: thing I know, in the pregame, I'm here that Bob

1747
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 5: Trump he died.

1748
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 3: Oh, I know.

1749
01:37:57,240 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 5: I was out of town.

1750
01:37:58,080 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 3: That's right. There was on TV.

1751
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 5: I was driving and I had the radio and I

1752
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 5: was listening to the iHeart app. That's how I listened

1753
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:06,719
Speaker 5: to the game and I heard Dan Hoard and Dave Lapham.

1754
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 3: I said, what Bob Trump he died?

1755
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:12,759
Speaker 5: And all the reports I had read it never said

1756
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 5: what he passed from, but obviously probably something that was smoking,

1757
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:19,679
Speaker 5: because he was it was one hell of a smoker.

1758
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 5: I mean, I remember back on Third Street three Sports too,

1759
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 5: we had our studios. That place looked like a steam room.

1760
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 3: I was just I was just going to bring it up.

1761
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 2: When I first came to Cincinnati in nineteen ninety four,

1762
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 2: our studios for ninety two point five FM, where I

1763
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:37,719
Speaker 2: initially worked here, were down in that in that little

1764
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 2: building there, and I think KRC was there, and that

1765
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 2: their studio looked out over the river. That's where Jerry

1766
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 2: Thomas sat and did his show before they moved up

1767
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:46,679
Speaker 2: to Mount Adams too.

1768
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 3: And C.

1769
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:50,600
Speaker 2: K Y was in there and Trumpy would tape the

1770
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:55,720
Speaker 2: sports talk coming up leading up to a Bengals gamer afterwards.

1771
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 2: And in that room, in that room, they had a

1772
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:02,759
Speaker 2: big comp French room, as you remember, And you're right, yes,

1773
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 2: that was the weirdest color of yellow I've ever seen

1774
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 2: on glass quarrels.

1775
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:10,440
Speaker 3: And Trump was constant.

1776
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 2: He didn't stop, he didn't put it. The second the

1777
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 2: cigarette was out, another one was being lit and it

1778
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 2: was Bob. And I just imagine the poor people in

1779
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:23,759
Speaker 2: the room with him and just sit.

1780
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:25,160
Speaker 3: There alcoholt further.

1781
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 5: You know, you couldn't or wouldn't or fearful of even

1782
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 5: going to him to say can you please put it out?

1783
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 5: Because he give you two words, two letters, F you

1784
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 5: that's what he would do.

1785
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 3: Well, you can't, No, you can't, and you can't spell.

1786
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:42,679
Speaker 3: You can't spare spell Furman without f you. So what's

1787
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 3: wrong with that? F you? But anyway, continued story.

1788
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 5: No, but but I'll say this one thing about a

1789
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 5: tremendous broadcaster, a hell of a career both football and broadcasting.

1790
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:55,160
Speaker 5: But again I would say this, he had one hell

1791
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 5: of a presence, and he can't be viewed as as

1792
01:39:58,200 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 5: a bully, and he also had a good heart to

1793
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 5: I'll go that way. But I remember one time when

1794
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 5: Randy Michael's our program director, and I was down there.

1795
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 5: He asked Bob to read the school closings during the

1796
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 5: winter months. Yeah, and he says, I need read the

1797
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 5: school closings. I mean never came to staff meetings. No

1798
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 5: one expected him to. But again at that point in time,

1799
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:18,760
Speaker 5: when I first started at seven hundred, I mean I

1800
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 5: would think sports Talk his show was maybe sixty seventy

1801
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 5: percent of the total revenue of the entire station, which

1802
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 5: doesn't rule out the fact that he shouldn't be part

1803
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 5: of his staff, but he never really was. And so

1804
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 5: when Randy says, please, you know, not please, but you

1805
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 5: you need to read the school closings, he says, I

1806
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 5: don't read school closings. And then they got into it,

1807
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:40,640
Speaker 5: and I remember Bob took Randy against the wall and

1808
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 5: lifted him off the wall and.

1809
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:43,680
Speaker 10: He had his throat by his shoulders.

1810
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 5: It was crazy, and Bill Dennis and the segment read

1811
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 5: the school closing. So look, I would say this a

1812
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 5: tremendous talent both on the field and football, and certainly

1813
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 5: it's a shame that he won't be in the Ring

1814
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 5: of Honor and out when he's alive, and he should

1815
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 5: have been. That's another story. But I think that again,

1816
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 5: and to some extent, I would have to use the

1817
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 5: term maybe he was very difficult.

1818
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 3: To coach, a little uncoachable. Was that maybe?

1819
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 2: But you're right, larger than life presence back to the

1820
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,759
Speaker 2: coaching coaching thing we were talking about at the inception

1821
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 2: of this conversation. Bob Huggins, Bob Trumpy, uh right, Bobby,

1822
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 2: Bobby Knight.

1823
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 5: These are people that when you have a party and

1824
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 5: they walk into the room, everybody stops and turns around

1825
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 5: and doesn't say a word. Yeah, certain people might that

1826
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 5: he's one of them. I would think like Rick Patino

1827
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:34,719
Speaker 5: would be one of those guys, you know, Bob Knife

1828
01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 5: for Shure, Bob Huggins another one.

1829
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:37,679
Speaker 3: You know. I'm trying to think.

1830
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:39,719
Speaker 5: Of a coach here now, in this in this town

1831
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 5: that would have that kind of presence. I don't think

1832
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 5: there is one.

1833
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 3: I really don't. Does Sparky kind of have that presence

1834
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:46,839
Speaker 3: for the Reds.

1835
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:48,560
Speaker 5: I was not here when Sparky was here, but I

1836
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:50,839
Speaker 5: would assume he did, right, I think.

1837
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 3: He probably did.

1838
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1839
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 3: Leadership, well, Tito may have that, yeah, a little bit.

1840
01:41:58,880 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 3: I'll give him that.

1841
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 2: Phil Jackson with the with the bulls and the Lake,

1842
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:06,719
Speaker 2: I mean he had that kind of commanding the room.

1843
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 5: You know, in the years and coaching here in Cincinnati.

1844
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 3: How would think Pete Gillen did. I'll give you that.

1845
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 2: With with with with that rivalry between UC and Xavier

1846
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 2: that existed at that point, it was great Gillan. Gillan

1847
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,479
Speaker 2: had to have that kind of commanding presence just to

1848
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 2: match Huggins, right.

1849
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 5: You know, you know it wasn't forced, it was it

1850
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 5: was in the d n A.

1851
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 3: They had it.

1852
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:37,679
Speaker 5: That's what it was. And it's great.

1853
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:42,679
Speaker 2: It's great for the authenticity. Authenticity. We we've come full circle. Andy,

1854
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 2: thank you so much for rounding out the show. We

1855
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 2: appreciate your help tonight.

1856
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:47,719
Speaker 5: Thank you, my friend.

1857
01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 8: I'll see you sometime.

1858
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:53,720
Speaker 2: I hope this wasn't the last time, because I think

1859
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 2: we can do better. That's that's the fur ball on

1860
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 2: seven hundred l W