WEBVTT - The Odyssey

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<v Speaker 1>Mac, as I do roughly five times a week. I

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<v Speaker 1>was double parking slash trying to find a spot on

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<v Speaker 1>Newberry Street. I did find a spot that you are

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<v Speaker 1>able to possibly stop, but you can't actually park the car.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't get out of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Car loading zone.

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<v Speaker 1>While I was in the car, a meter person walked

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<v Speaker 1>over and said, hey, you gotta move, little rude, not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie. Didn't like the attitude, but I said, okay, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get out of the way right now. And I

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<v Speaker 1>then told my son to put his seat belt back

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<v Speaker 1>on so we could move, and within thirty seconds the

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<v Speaker 1>guy circle back around. He's like, I told you you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta move, and I'm like, my kid's putting his seat

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<v Speaker 1>belt on and I'm not even parked. And he laughed,

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes, you don't think you're parked right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this question. If I am sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in the car, yeah, with the car on, seatbelt on,

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<v Speaker 1>ready to drive, am I parked?

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<v Speaker 2>You're parked, you bitch, you're parked.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not. I'm sitting idle.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the car in park?

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<v Speaker 1>I can easily take it out of park? What if

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<v Speaker 1>I have my hazards on?

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<v Speaker 2>If you have your hazards on and the car is

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<v Speaker 2>in park. You'd be like, hey, I'm gonna be five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to give me a ticket, give me

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<v Speaker 2>a ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm sitting in the car and the car is on,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to move.

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<v Speaker 2>You just get to call their bluff. They don't. They

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<v Speaker 2>probably path of least resistance, although some of those meter

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<v Speaker 2>maids like slinging their cock. You're just gonna be like, hey, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be five minutes waiting on my wife. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if you gotta give me a ticket, give me a ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>But I even said him, I'll move right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't putting up a fight, but also.

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<v Speaker 2>Put up a little fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Technically, yes, I did look it up. Technically I was parked, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's be honest, I'm not parked.

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<v Speaker 2>I made for the sake of conversation. You were parked. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>all you had to do you should have moved ten

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<v Speaker 2>feet instead I moved.

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<v Speaker 1>Parking is turning the car off and getting out of

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<v Speaker 1>the car. I'm standing.

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<v Speaker 2>You're idling is what it's called.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say standing.

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<v Speaker 2>Still standing next time, just starts singing to him.

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<v Speaker 1>One goo three yeah, just three. King of Queen Marl

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<v Speaker 1>Street Entertainment. I'm Goo and I'm Mac and we are

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<v Speaker 1>the Mac and Goo program. I didn't get a ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go ahead a little bit of two.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we are bringing you an epic. Is how I

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<v Speaker 2>think goo. That term gets thrown around, not often, but

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes for long movies, Ridley Scott movies. This was truly

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<v Speaker 2>an epic. Today we are discussing The Odyssey, the latest.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say greatest Christopher Nolan film, but I could

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<v Speaker 2>see someone arguing.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll make that argument of shouldn't have its face

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<v Speaker 1>carved into a rock in seck.

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<v Speaker 2>Goo the Odyssey is Christopher Nolan's thirteenth cinematic movie number

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<v Speaker 2>that he's directed. One of those, Insomnia, he didn't write,

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<v Speaker 2>the other twelve he has written. I would say that

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<v Speaker 2>Christopher Nolan is at worst the second best director going

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<v Speaker 2>right now. Most people would say the best in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have Denny Villeneuve over him, But those are the

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<v Speaker 2>top two I think pretty easily at the moment. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think either one has made a bad movie, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if anyone else can say that Goo

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<v Speaker 2>the Odyssey has a two hundred and fifty million dollar budget.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes it the most expensive Christopher Nolan movie ever

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<v Speaker 2>made and one of the highest budgeted R rated movies

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<v Speaker 2>ever made. Universal reportedly dumped another one twenty five in

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<v Speaker 2>the marketing and I gotta say they didn't market the

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<v Speaker 2>shit out of this. They marketed it appropriately, but they

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<v Speaker 2>I think knowing it's an R rating, they didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to go above and beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>I think also knowing who is in the cast and

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that everyone in the cast knows how to go

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<v Speaker 1>out and do interviews.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't need.

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<v Speaker 1>To go out and do crazy commercials, set up crazy promos,

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<v Speaker 1>crazy crossovers unless you want to put it through your

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<v Speaker 1>legs before that three point swish.

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<v Speaker 2>You step over Tyron lout Yeah. Uh gou. This movie

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<v Speaker 2>is projected to make anywhere between eighty five and one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred million domestically this weekend, with some high end estimates

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<v Speaker 2>getting up to one hundred and thirty million. It's expecting

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<v Speaker 2>over one hundred and ten overseas, tracking for over two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred million worldwide opening weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Two things here. If it can get to one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty two million, that is bananas. Because it is

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<v Speaker 1>a three hour movie. So you can only show it

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<v Speaker 1>so many times during the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, and I'm seeing a lot of hubbub about this

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<v Speaker 1>is people that are upset that they can't see it

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<v Speaker 1>as Nolan intended it to be seen on their iPhone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean Christopher Nolan. This I believe it's the

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<v Speaker 2>first movie ever made.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the first. I'm trying to think of what

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<v Speaker 1>the word is, uh like written fictional, because I believe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a documentary has already been done like this.

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<v Speaker 2>A first like blockbuster movie that I'm trying to say.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, shot fully with IMAX.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the word earlier, but I can't comprehend things

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<v Speaker 1>good enough. I can't stop eighten.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only I believe forty true IMEX theaters in the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>There's twenty four in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. The closest one for us would be Prominent Providence

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<v Speaker 2>Placed small mind.

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<v Speaker 1>The Redding Jordan's furniture has the right screen size okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but not the right projector got it? They have lasers.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I away one as a shark with a

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<v Speaker 1>freaking laser bead, and I got rid of our soundboard.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna do impressions. The whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>Good. You and I saw it in seventy millimeters, did we?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it was showing on the title card before

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<v Speaker 2>the movie. We saw it in Dolby or Sevy middimeter,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the next best option.

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<v Speaker 1>What we saw it in though, is definitely crop top. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>also crop bottom, not just a crop top.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, and I will say it doesn't take away

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<v Speaker 1>from the story, no, but I can definitely see it

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<v Speaker 1>taking away from the atmosphere of what they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>give us with the beautiful surroundings.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And it's only after the fact that when you

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<v Speaker 2>see shots one after another do you realize how much

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<v Speaker 2>you're kind of missing.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, I wanted to see the top of Benny

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<v Speaker 1>Saftie's fucking hats.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the shot that got me too, like I

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<v Speaker 2>would like.

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<v Speaker 1>To Well, no, the shot that got me was Tom Holland,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was cropped like the top of his head.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they showed him like, oh, look at all

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<v Speaker 1>that ocean. Yeah, well that beautiful salty water.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I mean, if you can see it in imax,

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<v Speaker 2>please do select few in this kind.

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<v Speaker 1>I might go and see it in reading eventually, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because they get those umbrella chairs, so you're gonna stay dry.

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<v Speaker 2>Goo. The Odyssey is an R rated adventure, drama, fantasy romance.

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<v Speaker 2>Once again, I'd call it an epic subgenres action epic.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think of that word.

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<v Speaker 2>Adventure, epic, fantasy epic. That's three epics, quest see adventure

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<v Speaker 2>and Goose favorite sword and sandal.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually looking at everyone's feet. No one had

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<v Speaker 1>sandals on. They all had boots.

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<v Speaker 2>Goo. You've mentioned the runtime of this movie. It comes

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<v Speaker 2>in at a hot one hundred and seventy two minutes

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<v Speaker 2>eight minutes shy of three hours. And I'll say this,

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<v Speaker 2>I think my biggest criticism of the movie is it

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<v Speaker 2>could have been like twenty minutes shorter, because there's a

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<v Speaker 2>stretch of about twenty to maybe thirty minutes where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not getting much out of this. Maybe the Odyssey

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<v Speaker 2>Homer's audience is getting much out of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, the Homers. Let's get this out there right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We've never read the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you're tuning into us for a breakdown of

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<v Speaker 2>this movie compared to the literary version of the story,

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<v Speaker 2>the Odyssey.

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<v Speaker 1>We've never read any of the books.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Goo, and I I have very limited Greek mythology knowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>Who has even less?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm illiterate.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been talking to Davey to fill in some of

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<v Speaker 2>the gass for you, which is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm been asking Davy Am I dumb? To think this way?

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<v Speaker 2>Goo on roddy t's at the moment, this three hour

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<v Speaker 2>movie has ninety six percent from two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>nine critics. That is the highest Rotten Tomatoes critics score

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<v Speaker 2>for Christopher Nolan movie ever on Metacritic and eighty nine

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<v Speaker 2>on fifty seven. High nine is super, eighty nine is

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<v Speaker 2>super high. That is the third highest ever for Christopher.

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<v Speaker 1>Nolan because with Rotten Tomatoes, it's also a thing of like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not bad, There's no way it's bad. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>automatically a thumbs up.

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<v Speaker 2>And once again, and we'll get into those scores in

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<v Speaker 2>a second. Once again. Written directed by Christopher Nolan, this

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<v Speaker 2>movie Goo. The script was a faithful adaptation of Homer's

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<v Speaker 2>ancient Greek epic poem none of it rhymed. The note

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<v Speaker 2>the side here is no one takes great inspiration from

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<v Speaker 2>a more modern translation by classicist Emily Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay said that's his favorite version of the busk Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're spoiling dark right now. You don't even have

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to dork. I'm telling you this is Davy's favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>So in Emily Wilson's twenty seventeen translation, she uses a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of modern language, which is what no one really

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<v Speaker 2>takes inspiration for.

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<v Speaker 1>He yew like when Dame is like what app kid?

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<v Speaker 1>And then Tom hollands, what that.

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<v Speaker 2>No One's story? This movie also takes elements from the Iliad,

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<v Speaker 2>another Homer work, or at least it's been attributed to him,

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<v Speaker 2>and the I need it.

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<v Speaker 1>An Oh, we're gonna mispronounce a lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>That is that was written by the Roman poet Virgil

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<v Speaker 2>and go. One of the bigger things here is the

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<v Speaker 2>thing about the Odyssey, and several works are that old.

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<v Speaker 2>No one truly knows who actually created this story. This

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<v Speaker 2>and the Iliad get attributed to Homer, and additional an

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<v Speaker 2>aside to that is, yes, it's Greek mythology, but as

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<v Speaker 2>we've come to find out throughout history, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>it is rooted in stuff that probably happened, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they just add in the mythology, as some people may

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<v Speaker 2>put in God to as an influence in their stories today,

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<v Speaker 2>and a big part of that reason Goo is in

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen seventy one the city of Troy was actually discovered.

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<v Speaker 2>They thought it was a myth. They archaeologists uncovered a

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<v Speaker 2>city that matched everything that we've known about Troy, which

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<v Speaker 2>started down this path where like, Okay, maybe a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these stories are rooted in truth. So that's just

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<v Speaker 2>something to think about. K The audience scores for Christopher

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<v Speaker 2>Nolan's movies on Roddy Tea's not available yet for US.

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<v Speaker 2>I suspect this is gonna be at worst low nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>This might gonna get a bit of a review bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>You think, oh, there's people out there that are mad

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<v Speaker 1>about the casting.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Okay, for the audience scores the highest for

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<v Speaker 2>Nolan movies, there's a three way tie at the top. Goo,

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<v Speaker 2>the Dark Knight, Memento, and Batman Begins all have ninety fours.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you have this other clump, the Prestige, Oppenheimer Inception in.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dark Clumps right now.

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<v Speaker 2>The Prestiges at ninety two, Oppenheimer an Inception at ninety one,

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<v Speaker 2>the Dark Knight Rises at ninety. Then you have these

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<v Speaker 2>two floaters Interstellar at eighty seven percent, and following at

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<v Speaker 2>eighty five percent. Following Gou is the one no one

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<v Speaker 2>really knows that was his debut in nineteen ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you have Dunkirk at eighty one percent, Insomnia

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<v Speaker 2>at seventy seven percent, the one that he directed, didn't write,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Gou. The lowest for both critic and audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Roddy t scores for Christopher Nolan is Tenant at seventy

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<v Speaker 2>percent critics seventy six percent audience. For me, that is

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<v Speaker 2>clearly his worst movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And while I don't really like it, it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>and interesting does look really really good, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't, I didn't dislike it. I just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like it. It was confus using. I needed the Internet to

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<v Speaker 2>explain it. I would say that, and Batman begins to

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom two for me. But if those are your

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<v Speaker 2>two worst movies, you're a pretty fucking good director.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Is that Tenant?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's one of the more talked about movies too,

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<v Speaker 1>because people are so torn on like, well, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>fire truck. That's cool, but why is the guy's name

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<v Speaker 1>the protagonist?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah? Goo? On Metacritic The critics obviously love Christopher Nolan.

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<v Speaker 2>His lowest scores his debut film, following at sixty. Then

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<v Speaker 2>you have this clump of three movies of the prestige

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<v Speaker 2>Tenet and Batman begins at sixty six, sixty nine, and seventy.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you have these four grouped together Interstellar, Inception, and Somnia,

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<v Speaker 2>and The Dark Knight rises from seventy four to seventy eight,

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<v Speaker 2>and then his top four according to Metacritic prior to

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<v Speaker 2>this movie were Memento, The Dark Knight, Oppenheimer, and Dunkirk

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<v Speaker 2>gu Dunkirk far and away his highest critic rating, which

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<v Speaker 2>the audience clear to me because I thought it was fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was decent. I didn't like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember was that review bombed.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I just think it wasn't people's favorites, okayo.

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<v Speaker 2>Synopsis of the Odyssey. After the Trojan War, Odysseus faces

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<v Speaker 2>a dangerous voyage back to Ithaca, meeting creatures like the

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<v Speaker 2>Cyclops polyphemous. I have it's polyphemous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's polypemous. So I have done like three raps on

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<v Speaker 1>the Odyssey at work, I do news Entertainment news and

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<v Speaker 1>every single time I have texted Davy and said, can

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<v Speaker 1>you leave me a voice note with how to pronounce this?

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<v Speaker 3>The common pronunciation is polyphemous. If you wanted to say

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<v Speaker 3>it in Greek with the accent, it's polypemos polypemos, but

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<v Speaker 3>most people say polyphemus.

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<v Speaker 2>So cyclops, polypemous, sirens and calypso along the way do

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<v Speaker 2>This story chronicles Odysseus, who was a Greek king Greek

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<v Speaker 2>King of Ithia, and his ten year journey home to

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<v Speaker 2>his wife Penelope following the end of the Trojan War.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie stars Goo Matt Damon as Odysseus, the King

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<v Speaker 2>of Ithaca. Tom Holland is Telemaic, his son of Odysseus,

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<v Speaker 2>and Penelope aka Prince of Ithaca. Anne Hathaway as Penelope,

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<v Speaker 2>Queen of Ithaca, Robert Pattinson as Antonys. Did I get

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<v Speaker 2>that right? Antonas?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't ask me, Please, don't ask me.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one of the suitors of Penelope. Lapina Niango is

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<v Speaker 2>Helen of Troy and Clinton Estra, who is Agamebnon's wife.

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<v Speaker 2>She plays a dual role here, but just one scene

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<v Speaker 2>with the other one. It's her abduction go Helen of

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<v Speaker 2>Troy's abduction that triggers the Trojan War in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Samantha Morton plays Circi witch slash goddess. Her scene was

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<v Speaker 2>one of the better scenes of the movie. She lives

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<v Speaker 2>on an island called I. I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 2>say that. A E A E A, I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how to say that. Goude. John Leguizamo as Eumaeus.

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<v Speaker 2>He is Odysseus's servant hand here plemonade.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I like, where where did he come from?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, where did he come from?

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<v Speaker 2>He's this blind, loyal servant. Uh yeah, we'll get to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Zendeia plays Athena, the goddess of wisdom. Charlie's to Therone

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<v Speaker 2>is Calypso, a nymph on the island of Ojijia ogeja.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to say that. You just got

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<v Speaker 2>to move on, bud, like I like giving it a

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<v Speaker 2>second time. Betty Saffie plays Agamemnon. He's the king of

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<v Speaker 2>my Sine and the commander of the a Chians. A

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<v Speaker 2>Chean's also Menilaeus's older brother Menilaus, who played by John Berenthal.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the king of Sparta, Elliott Plage plays sin On. JAMESH.

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<v Speaker 2>Patel as your Eurylocus Eurylochus Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll also stop you right here, tip my hands. Max

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<v Speaker 1>credit Union. I thought he was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great. He was great, really great. He was very

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<v Speaker 2>good and tenant as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Although we don't have it in there, I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>would call him more of like an unsung hero.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the perfect foil to Damon's Odysseus.

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<v Speaker 1>He was awesome, He was so good.

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<v Speaker 2>In this Mia goth Is Melantho. She is a disloyal

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<v Speaker 2>servant and a lover of antonas Logan Marshall Green as Melanthius,

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<v Speaker 2>Milantho's twin brother and also a disloyal servant. Ryan Hurst,

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<v Speaker 2>who's one of my favorites, as Mentor, Telemachus's guide and mentor.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that where that comes from. You should have asked

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<v Speaker 2>Davy that Bill Irwin plays poly Femus, the cyclops and

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<v Speaker 2>son of Poseidon. James Remar, who played Rayden in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineties Mortarcombat movie as Tyresius, He's the blind prophet in

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<v Speaker 2>hell Hades, and then good Travis Scott. Travis Scott as barred.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the guy with the Caine talking poems.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry right now, as of right now, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>need to see how Dune does and maybe how they

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<v Speaker 1>feel about certain movies like The Invite and whatever comes

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<v Speaker 1>out around Oscar time. As of right now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win for best cast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is loaded and everyone does a great show.

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<v Speaker 1>There is not a weak link in the bunch.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say the weakest performance may have been Holland,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's still good.

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<v Speaker 1>But also you needed him to be that weak character.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just I don't know, there's something not off

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<v Speaker 2>about Holland. I just thought he was a little out

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<v Speaker 2>of his element, which and I love Tom Holland.

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<v Speaker 1>They made the choice of going with a straight down

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<v Speaker 1>the middle American accent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think if this movie starred a British actor

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<v Speaker 1>they would have picked a British accent for everybody?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, I think because Hathaway and Damon are American,

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<v Speaker 2>they went with Holland using an American accent.

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<v Speaker 1>As my guess, well, they went with everybody using an

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<v Speaker 1>American accent. You have Robert Pattinson as well. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that they asked Damon the first and like, can

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<v Speaker 1>you do a Greek accent?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Kid? Can you do a British accent?

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<v Speaker 2>Not? Typically these historical epics feature odd British accent.

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<v Speaker 1>It's usually British accent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it just makes sense in our heads. I

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<v Speaker 2>suppose it didn't bother me that everyone was speaking no

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<v Speaker 2>American dialect.

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<v Speaker 1>You pick it and you stick it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that we've been three days essentially to city.

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<v Speaker 1>I needed three days. I need three days.

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<v Speaker 2>I like, there's nothing I outright didn't like. I have

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<v Speaker 2>nippicks like I do. Think it was a bit long.

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<v Speaker 2>The scene evolving the cyclops I don't think I needed,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the audience needs. It just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>brings the movie to a little bit of a halt

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<v Speaker 2>that takes up a good twenty thirty minutes. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>love that. I didn't love Holland's performance. Outside of that,

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<v Speaker 2>this is Baseline, like Lowest Common Denominator, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best movies ever made.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe that the way that they told the

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<v Speaker 1>story it was all out of order? Timeline difference is

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<v Speaker 1>everything else. Do you think that some parts dragged and

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<v Speaker 1>took away from other parts of the story that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you took too long away from the Anhathaway character. You

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<v Speaker 1>took too long away from other characters.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I actually liked the way in which they tell it,

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<v Speaker 2>where you know Odysseus is off on the island with

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<v Speaker 2>Calypso trying to remember what the fuck happened, and you

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<v Speaker 2>keep jumping back and forth. And you also know when

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna watch Christopher Nolan movie, he's gonna manipulate times somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>So you knew there was gonna be something like this

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<v Speaker 2>in the movie. That didn't bother me at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Shall we get to the nonagone? Sure, first off is

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<v Speaker 1>fun factor and maybe not the fun per second that

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<v Speaker 1>we're thinking we might have here. It's a very long movie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe I would have had more fun with a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger screen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess you could also say so you and I,

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<v Speaker 2>as fans of Christopher Nolan and movies in general, are just.

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<v Speaker 1>As the two fans of Christopher Nolan, We're.

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<v Speaker 2>Just buying in to the promise of the movie and

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<v Speaker 2>the story. However, I can admit this movie is definitely

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<v Speaker 2>not the most fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the most fun Nolan movie.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, so maybe a mark against that for general audience.

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<v Speaker 1>If we were fans of the original story of the books,

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be fun to see it on screen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious with Davy's a pain is gonna be and

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<v Speaker 2>people of peeps, people like Davy who have read this

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<v Speaker 2>or are fans of Greek mythology, if they like it

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<v Speaker 2>more or like it less.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of that, the book is better. I'm gonna call

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<v Speaker 1>it satisfactor. It took us a while to get there,

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<v Speaker 1>but the end of the movie, I'll give it a

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<v Speaker 1>comparison in spoilers, but there's some real satisfactor things. I

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<v Speaker 1>also needed to keep in mind because Davey told me

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<v Speaker 1>this too, and this is this episode's all about Davey

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<v Speaker 1>telling me stuff. It's as if he's a teach. Davies

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<v Speaker 1>maybi'es Davy's gravy over here.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be the blood of a pig, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>from a cow.

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<v Speaker 1>Mix it with flower and you get Davy's gravy. The

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<v Speaker 1>meat is the hashtag dork episode. This is just a

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<v Speaker 1>little runoff. We added some flour.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we have a nice route.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Davey told me, and I'm happy that he did,

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<v Speaker 1>because there are a lot of things in this movie

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<v Speaker 1>that reminded me of other stories, and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this story came out first, was first, So everything that

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking of, yes, actually took from this story, correct

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm happy that was pointed out to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep. And once again they don't truly know who

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<v Speaker 2>who was the first author of this story just gets

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<v Speaker 2>tripping into Homer. So satisfactor for me, gu you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a sucker for good conclusion. With about thirty to

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<v Speaker 2>forty minutes left, you know exactly how this is going

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<v Speaker 2>to play out, and it's still super satisfying. And because

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<v Speaker 2>they've laid the ground work so well through the first

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<v Speaker 2>two hours, you're like, you're anticipating it so well. And

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<v Speaker 2>he also purposefully like blue balls you for like another

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<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes before he gives you the satisfying part.

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<v Speaker 1>To the point of you do question, maybe he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>plan on doing this and he does just want to

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<v Speaker 1>do this one thing, and like get out of here, borometer,

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<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with the long movie. It did ragget points

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<v Speaker 1>for me. I'm not sure what you could have done.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious if you could have done this as two

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<v Speaker 1>movies and done two two hour movies as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>one three hour movie and allowed us to get a

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<v Speaker 1>crisper we're away from the island and then at the

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<v Speaker 1>end or a second movie of him returning or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But I don't know, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to do. This isn't my job goo.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, the boreharmater came with the Cyclops stuff because

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<v Speaker 2>it really took me out of the movie because we

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<v Speaker 2>are dealing with Greek mythology, yes, right, and we do

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<v Speaker 2>see some abilities on screen. We see some extra large

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<v Speaker 2>humanoid type things. I can buy INtime, I'm gonna and

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<v Speaker 2>then this up later we get to this point where

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<v Speaker 2>we see the Cyclops and I'm like, ah, this is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of weird. I like, I just didn't love it,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't buy it. It brought it to a screeching halt

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<v Speaker 2>for me. Again, that's maybe twenty minutes of the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just didn't care for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween. Will this movie wane over time? Will it lack

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<v Speaker 1>a rewatchability because of its length?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and is exhilarating and satisfying as the final ten

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<v Speaker 2>minutes are, it does lack like a major standout moment,

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<v Speaker 2>partially because of what I did like storytelling wise, but

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<v Speaker 2>jumping back and forth throughout Odysseus's journey means you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>just get like the Troy scene, the Trojan scene, Trojan Horse,

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<v Speaker 2>like right there and like this great ten minute Trojan

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<v Speaker 2>Horse scene.

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<v Speaker 1>It was spotted it bits in pieces. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do like how they came back to it at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>So the different perspectives of the war.

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<v Speaker 2>It may wayne ween overtime. That'll be an interesting test.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this movie compares a lot to Oppenheimer. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how you have someone that is in charge of changing

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<v Speaker 1>how the.

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<v Speaker 2>World's one man problem problem, solving a massive issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Solving a problem and creating something else where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've a to mcbaum on one side, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>Zeus's law on the other side. You start throwing that

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<v Speaker 1>out there or you start taking it away. The person

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 1>that is responsible for it now lives with that forever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was surprised how similar to Oppenheimer.

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<v Speaker 2>It was structurally.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, plumbing aide, I said John Leguizamo, we might

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<v Speaker 1>be changing this to who broke their Leguizamo, Yeah, because

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, break a leg that's what they say in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a tough one because he's in a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the movie. So I actually gave him max credit union, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>either one. I was blown away. The last thing I

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<v Speaker 2>expected in the year twenty twenty six, the Year of

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<v Speaker 2>Our Lord, the Year of Zeus, was John Loguizamo to

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<v Speaker 2>give one of the best performances of the year, maybe the.

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Best performance of the movie, win an Academy Award for

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<v Speaker 1>Sporting Actor.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's tremendous and I will say you You and

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<v Speaker 2>I both laughed at his first scene because it's John Loguizamo,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when I read it it was Himamo. Yeah,

0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 2>it's jarring, and then he's fucking phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Dan will be nominated. Yeah, Damon might

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<v Speaker 1>win af he may win. I think that Anne Hathaway

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<v Speaker 1>will be nominated. A Hathaway right now, I think should win. Also,

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.000
<v Speaker 1>she was she was very good. She was so good

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<v Speaker 1>in this. Pattinson might get a norm. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Holland does.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you on that Mattinson almost didn't have enough

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<v Speaker 2>to do, you know what I mean, Like he was

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<v Speaker 2>he was great as a bastard, plays a great bastard,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know if he had enough to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I think Leguizamo gets a nomination, and then

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<v Speaker 1>people like, I don't think she's in a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie, but people go nuts over Zendeia and she

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<v Speaker 1>might get a nomination.

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<v Speaker 2>For this, so let's roll that into Pants Tent.

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<v Speaker 1>Here she might handlem elector this.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any more credit to give out? I

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<v Speaker 2>gave credit.

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<v Speaker 1>I just gave credit to everyone getting nominations.

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<v Speaker 2>Pants Tents to the excite bike Mania gou for me. Obviously,

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:52.959
<v Speaker 2>the conclusion is satisfying. In Pants Tent Dish, I really

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<v Speaker 2>loved the scene where Odysseus is back in Ithaca and

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:01.159
<v Speaker 2>he's sooiler. He's sort of monologuing, and as he's doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>we discover why we seezon day of the way we do.

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was great. That was I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>was fucking amazing. I loved that connection because the whole

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 2>time you're wondering, like, why is Athena showing up like this?

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you tarty to the Mac and Goop party,

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<v Speaker 1>we rate everything on a forty hot dog rating system. Mac,

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:23.400
<v Speaker 1>this movie is quite good.

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.879
<v Speaker 2>It's very good. It is very good to me.

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:29.159
<v Speaker 1>If we're looking at things to poke at, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>smidgelong I do question if you could have split it

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<v Speaker 1>into two different movies and gotten a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>of him back in Ithaca at the end. I think

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 1>everyone gives dynamite performances. I think you're gonna get tons

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>of oscars here. I wish I saw it in the

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 1>full seventy millimeter IMAX, but that might be too tough

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:52.120
<v Speaker 1>to ever get to in Rhode Island. Slash maybl see

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>it with the Redding version. But I do feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of tightened it up a little bit. Just

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<v Speaker 1>tighten it up just a little bit to get it

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<v Speaker 1>closer to that two and a half hours. I know

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>that the editor on this movie cut so much of

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>what Nolan wanted to keep in just to get it

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>to that, you know, three hour mark, and you can

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>definitely you can feel the love that Nolan has for

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>every frame of this movie. Yeah, but I do think

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>we could have sharpened it up just a little bit.

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Agreed thirty eight Hot Dogs. Thirty eight dogs, because I

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 1>did feel it a bit. I might be thirty seven dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Yeah, I liked it a lot. I might

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>be thirty six. I think within a little bit of time,

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to start to hover thirty six, thirty seven.

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 2>I also think and he's just a victim of his

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 2>own success.

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>You're comparing it up against other Nolan.

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so in my mind, Christopher Nolan has three forty doggers.

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 2>You have Oppenheimer for me. Inception, I'll give everyone the

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Dark Knight.

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, victory for all of us.

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 2>If Distellar has gone up for me over time, I

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 2>really love that. I think you can argue Memento also

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 2>a forty dogger. Yeah, this is weighed against that, and

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.439
<v Speaker 2>I for sure didn't like it as much as Inception.

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:11.199
<v Speaker 2>Maybe my favorite movie of all time. I liked Oppenheimer

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 2>more than this too, too. I think this is Baseline

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:22.119
<v Speaker 2>a fantastic movie structurally the way it's made produced, YadA YadA,

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 2>like Baseline one of the best movies ever made. However,

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 2>because it's really long and it lacks some fun and

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 2>it does, I did get fully taken out of the

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 2>movie at one point. I can't give it forty and

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 2>rewatchability is not there. So I was like, thirty eight

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 2>thirty nine I am. It is a movie I would

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 2>recommend to everyone despite its length, though I think I'm

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 2>that thirty nine hot dogs. We'll talk about the Nolan

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Rushmore in a bit, I think you could argue it

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 2>as the fourth on the Rushmore. I think there's a

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 2>conversation between two or three movies four number four, But

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I think definitively as a podcast, we would say inception

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 2>the Dark Knight in Oppenheimer our top three.

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Don't give away our Mountain Rushmores. Speaking of Nolan, remember

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>in the All Star Game, maybe in nineteen ninety eight

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>or ninety nine, Owen Nolan was going down the ice

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>for a hat trick and he pointed to the top

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>corner and then sniped it top chetta. Yeah, it's not

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Dominic Kashik too good.

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Let's spoilers, spilers, spilers, spoilers.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you what I asked Davy? And I

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>tried to Google this as well, but Google, I'm gonna

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>blame Google. I'm not gonna blame how I worded it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we know in the movie that Odysseus is dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with all this grief for what he has done, how

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>he has changed the world. Zeus is law is completely out.

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Of it, which she reveals at the end in that monologue.

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that he is the people from the Sea. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I am questioning so he is on the island with

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<v Speaker 1>uh Chalise Thorne cl So Calypso for so long, and

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>he's trying to remember seven years and he's telling these

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 1>stories about how, oh, we went to this island, we

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 1>went to that island, we went to this and it's

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>just him telling those stories. Do you believe that none

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff actually happened and he was just making

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>excuses for why he had it made it home?

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 2>No, I think that one hundred percent happened. And I

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 2>think I mean Haiti or the I don't know if

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 2>he's Hades, but the blind Hades guy tells you that

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 2>the witch tells you is that might not have happened either.

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but so now you're getting too literal with it.

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about Greek mythology, you know.

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>So I'm allowed to interpret anything I want anyway.

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent are If we weren't talking about Greek mythology,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, yeah, there's a conversation that we had

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 2>there as to whether things happened or not. But we

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 2>saw we saw literal cyclops in the movie Goose.

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I think he was so ashamed by what he did.

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 1>He could have gotten home easily and He's like, no,

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>a cyclop's got in the way. The King of the

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Sea was passed.

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 2>He outright says go and Calypso comes to this realization.

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Calypso is not real either.

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 2>His trauma was holding him back from fully needing to

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 2>go home, getting home, wanting to go home, and so

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 2>that's what he works through in the seven years there.

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Calypso influenced some of that, holding him there and held

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.719
<v Speaker 2>him back a bit, but then she also releases him

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 2>set some feet.

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>He made that up too, He made all of this.

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 2>You're thinking too much about it.

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I am thinking, well, yeah, it's a three hour movie.

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna think about it. The other thing that bothered

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>me by so what I did is I put into Google.

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, in the Odyssey, yeah, does Odysseus make up

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>all the stories? And Google said the Odyssey is a

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>work of fiction. I'm like, I get that. I'm saying, like,

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>in that work of nonfiction, is there any chance that

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>none of this happened? And it's like, no, none of

0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>it happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to see you get it, Jim Roberts

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 2>playing you in this sketch, No, I get it. What

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 2>the other thing that bothered me by the eighty seventh time,

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Goo is when they brought up Zeus's law for the

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 2>eighties seventh time, you need to live.

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>No, you lived by something in law.

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna run through the story here, stop me when

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 2>you when you see fit. We open with uh, this

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 2>sort of tease of the Trojan War and Odysseus simply

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 2>not remembering what happened to him After the war. He's

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 2>on an island with Calypso played by Shirley's third on

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 2>Ithaca Uh. The kingdom in which he's essentially abandoned, is

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 2>in disarray because of his absence. Suitors are courting his wife,

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 2>the Queen Penelope, to ascend to the throne, and usurp

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Odysseus and Telemachus. The worst one of those suitors, the

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 2>biggest bastard of them all, is Anthonys, played by Robert Pattinson,

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 2>who once again plays a great bastard. There's also a

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 2>great scene in here explaining who he is to a

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 2>tea where he manipulates Sinnin to take his place among

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 2>the ranks of the men going to fight for Troy

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 2>and I Love Love Gou. It was so satisfying for

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Odysseus to flick that fucking wooden peg back at him.

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>That was so sad when he first where'd you get that?

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? That was great. So that so he flicks the

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 2>peg at him, and he doesn't kill Antonys for like

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 2>another twenty five minutes. That's that. Yeah, that was where

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 2>we were like, get there sitting, and that's where you're like, Okay,

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I think we could have done this a little quicker.

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Christopher Nolan Eumaeus is John Leguizamo. I think I'm saying

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 2>that correctly. He has Odysseus's elderly dog, Argus, and I

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 2>loved I loved the aspect of when Odysseus finally returns,

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Argos smells him get super happy dies. But then there's

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 2>that great scene where Telemachus realizes this is my father,

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 2>This is Odysseus. Telemachus travels to Sparta with Mentor, hoping

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 2>to find out more information about his father. That's where

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 2>we see John Bernhal's King Menelaus, who fought let me

0:33:55.680 --> 0:34:00.040
<v Speaker 2>tell you something. Antonis is trying to seduce Penelope. He

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 2>learns Telemachus is away, he plots with Polybus to kill

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 2>Telemachus upon his return and divide Ithaca. Obviously, we see

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 2>that plays out and awesome. That was a great scene too,

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 2>with Odysseus is killing the shit out of all those nerds. Odysseus,

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 2>with the aid of Calypso, starts remembering and recalling this

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 2>journey after the Trojan War.

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>He loves that flower.

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 2>We learned that Odysseus is in fact the person who

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 2>devised the Trojan Horse plan to solve and end that

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 2>ten year war, and Sinnin, unbeknownst to Odysseus, is the

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 2>one that ends up being the desert of the volunteered

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:35.879
<v Speaker 2>deserter to lie to the Trojans. And that's a nice

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 2>emotional scene that comes up later as well. The ruse works.

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 2>We see that cool scene. I thought the best shot

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 2>of the movie was then opening that gate and Agamemnon

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 2>is just standing there like that was and that would

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 2>have definitely looked better than seventy milimeters because we would

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 2>have seen that whole sort of front of the city.

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:56.399
<v Speaker 2>I love that. That was great. They retrieve Helen, Agamemnon

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 2>and Menelaeus return home ahead of time. They're like, we're

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 2>going right home. Odysseus is like, I got a better route.

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna see the world and we're gonna beat those

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 2>motherfuckers home because he doesn't want to go home, and

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 2>he has Zendeias Athena escorting him as well, and so

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Zendeia pops up throughout this movie as Athena, and she

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 2>ends up at least this is what the Internet tells me, Goo,

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if the book is the same. She

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 2>takes the form of a girl that Odysseus sees sees

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 2>get beheaded during that siege of Troy, And I really

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 2>liked that fact that it's like haunting him, and so

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 2>that's the form he sees. I love that connection. Then

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 2>we don't put that together until his final monologue there.

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 2>So this is the first stop. Gu on their relaxed

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 2>route home is at this island to gather supplies, and

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 2>they see all these sheep and turns out the Cyclops

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 2>is a sheep herder and he lives in this big

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 2>ass cave and he's just eating these He's eating Odysseus's crew.

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 2>This was like, this was annoying because number one, the

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Cyclops looked bizarre. Number Two, we had just gotten to

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 2>like the best part of the movie, Like they see

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 2>the seas of Troy happened, they were successful, and they

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 2>sit on this voyage and they're just hanging out in

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 2>a cave with the Cyclops. Yeah. I get it's part

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 2>of the story, maybe an integral part of the story,

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 2>and the cinematic form, it just didn't work for me.

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 1>This. I believe we see this before they show most

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff with Troy, though I don't know if

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>that's true. I'm not gonna argue with you.

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 2>No, you might be right. We see them, we see

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:30.840
<v Speaker 2>that they're successful, we see that they're leaving the beaches

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 2>of Troy, but we may not get the sweet scene yet.

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 2>We get so after the whole Cyclops thing, they set out,

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:39.919
<v Speaker 2>but then just hug the coast and then they land

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 2>on the island of once again. Aia aia. I don't

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 2>know how the fuck you say this II where they

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 2>get this savage tribe of like massive human type things.

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 2>They kill a bunch more people, destroyed two of their bolts,

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 2>and then they set off again. Hu hugged the the

0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:57.399
<v Speaker 2>land and then.

0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 1>They beside in his pissed because the Cyclops is his kid.

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Cyclops is his son, and so now they make

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 2>land again. This is where we meet Circe, who's a

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:11.240
<v Speaker 2>witch and she I don't it's unclear what her powers

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 2>are other than turning people into animals. She turns Odysseus's crew,

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 2>the whole lot of them into pigs. Odysseus, being the

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:21.839
<v Speaker 2>bright mind he is, figures out she's a witch, goes

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.800
<v Speaker 2>and has this pretty good conversation, pretty good tit for

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:28.359
<v Speaker 2>tack tennis match there, and that was pretty satisfying scene

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 2>as well. When he she relents basically, but she tells

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 2>him that he's the only one that's gonna make it home,

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:37.279
<v Speaker 2>and in order to figure out how to get home,

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 2>he needs to go to Hades the underworld, and we

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 2>get this really cool scene of like these sort of

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:46.320
<v Speaker 2>for lack of a better term, force ghosts that he could.

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Still interact with undead zombies.

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Tyresius tells him exactly how he needs to

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 2>get home, and Odysseus is like, no, I'm gonna do

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.280
<v Speaker 2>pretty much anything but that. He's like, all right, fine,

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:00.920
<v Speaker 2>go for it, dude. So they try all that, and

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 2>despite everything Odysseus tries, all his men die and in

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 2>part because his second in command played by Jimesh Patel

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 2>is like just fed up, like overly fed up. He's

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 2>like sort of mutinying the crew. Here they eat they hungry, Yeah,

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 2>they eat the cows on that island, and so they

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 2>set out again. They all die. Odysseus crashes on to Charlis,

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 2>theirn Suore, and this is where we get a little

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 2>bit more of a halt in the story, because now

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 2>it's like, okay, we're getting to the third act. Odysseus

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 2>has to get back to Ithaca. We also get well.

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Back on Ithaca, Antonas and Polybus are like tormenting Eumaeus.

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 2>He's getta kicked out of the castle. They go to

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 2>kill like all his livestock. They're just fucking bastards, bastards.

0:38:56.200 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Odysseus finally makes it back to Ithaca. After he's remember

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 2>what's happened to him. Calypso reveals she's been like feeding

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:06.879
<v Speaker 2>him the lotus flower so he doesn't remember stuff. When

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 2>we get back in Ithaca, this final what forty minutes

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 2>is phenomenal. It's so good.

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>It felt like and once again I know this came

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 1>first the Count of Monte Cristo.

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:23.839
<v Speaker 2>It was just first of all, I don't know he's

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.399
<v Speaker 2>been gone for what ten years? Feels like more people

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:29.280
<v Speaker 2>should have recognized him, but or his even his voice.

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:31.400
<v Speaker 1>So I think they made it more like it was

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty They made it closer to that, didn't they.

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh, the war was ten years. Actually, you're right, the

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 2>war was ten years because.

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 1>On that island toms Holland was three and then Tom

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Holland was seven by the end of the movie.

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 2>He's right.

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 1>That's what I wanted to bring up to the ages

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 1>of these actors. Tom Holland is only I think thirteen

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 1>years younger than Anne Hathaway. Did you know that.

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:56.239
<v Speaker 2>I think he's twenty nine and she's forty two.

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he's thirty.

0:39:57.080 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 2>Now, okay, she's forty three.

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 1>And then Robert Pattin said, I'm pretty sure is either

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the same age or a little bit older than Nan Hathaway. Wow,

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:07.280
<v Speaker 1>that was all my Google. All I did for Google

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 1>is look up ages and argue about what was real

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:11.359
<v Speaker 1>and what's fake. Uh.

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 2>The first thing Odysseus does when he gets back to Ithaca,

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 2>he learns of this ploy to kill Telemachus. He goes

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:21.840
<v Speaker 2>and helps Telemachus. We lose mentor during it, but we

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:25.280
<v Speaker 2>get that great scene. He introduces himself to Telemachus as Sinnon,

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, paying homage to Elliott Page's character, and for

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:33.399
<v Speaker 2>the next twenty to twenty five minutes, Telemachus has no idea.

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:35.879
<v Speaker 2>He's just hanging with his father to asking questions about

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 2>his father. So that was kind of fun. That was

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 2>maybe the most fun had in the movie. And then

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 2>we get to the scene inside the temple or the

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 2>castle where Odysseus essentially gives his monologue and has his

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 2>come up, and he talks to Penelope and tells her

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.800
<v Speaker 2>take a new suitor. I've talked to your husband. You know,

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:57.879
<v Speaker 2>he would want you to do this, and we learn,

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's he's basically paid for his and by

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 2>doing so, he actually enacts this ploy to trap all

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 2>the shooters inside this throne room, and the only weapon

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:11.439
<v Speaker 2>in there is going to be his bow, and he's

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:13.759
<v Speaker 2>the only one that can string it. So when it

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 2>was happening in real time, I wasn't quite putting that together,

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 2>and then I was like, uh ah, this is great,

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 2>this is a nice ploy. I like this, this is great.

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I did like watching all those needle dicks try and

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 1>string the bow. Do you think he could string the bow. Now,

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:31.359
<v Speaker 1>do you think you could shoot through me? I've oh,

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 1>definitely not. I have never strung a bow or shot

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:37.320
<v Speaker 1>a bow and arrow. So okay as someone stepping on

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.319
<v Speaker 1>there as a virgin, fucking raw No, I don't think

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I could. Like if she said, if she said, the

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>challenge is this, I would say, can we do literally

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 1>anything else?

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Cuts to it's the jiff of the Game of Thrones.

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:51.320
<v Speaker 2>You're just jumping out the window.

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm just stepping out of the window. I'm like, I

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to do any of this. And if

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 1>there was a challenge for you to become king, what

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:00.880
<v Speaker 1>would you want the challenge to be.

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. What am I best at?

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's I don't I don't know.

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 2>I think I could arch Well, I don't think I

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 2>could string the bow, but the archery part, I think

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 2>I could do.

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 1>What you understand too, arch You would need to string.

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 2>That right, No, that I'm saying. But if I were

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 2>able to steal it from Odysseus, maybe I could bow

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 2>at mac guy or.

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Take string the bow and be like it's on there,

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and then he'd like kind of throw the arrow with

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>his hand. What could I do to become king? Baffled

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:31.319
<v Speaker 1>right now?

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 2>When he finally strings the bow, shoots the arrow or

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 2>everyone's like, oh shit, it's Odysseus, and Penelopee like lets

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 2>him do his thing. She's like at that point, she's

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:42.280
<v Speaker 2>gotta know, but she just lets him murk everyone.

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh She's gotta be soaked at that.

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 2>You also get this, uh, finally Telemachus gets his like

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:53.359
<v Speaker 2>his manhood scene where he kills Melanthos or Melantho, whatever

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.399
<v Speaker 2>the fuck his name is, who was pretty good Logan

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Marshall Green he was a good bastard as well, and

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:00.080
<v Speaker 2>then the swords drop down, they dropping the weapons of

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 2>the ceiling. I did like that. The final come up

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:07.400
<v Speaker 2>in of Antonis, though, when Odysseus has him soret to

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 2>throat is great. It's great. And I also like Gou

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 2>during the slaughter that guys just start kneeling because they're like,

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 2>you know what, this is the king. I'm good, I

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 2>don't need to get murked. I'm all set. This is fun.

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 2>So you get this final scene, and this is where

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 2>not knowing the story helped Gou, because you think for

0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 2>a second Odysseus is dying in Penelope's arms, but mission accomplice, right,

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.400
<v Speaker 2>and so then we kind of fade to black, but

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 2>we cut back open to He always said he was

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 2>gonna go west to honor his men, and Telemachus is

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 2>now the king, he's been crowned, and Penelope goes with

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Odysseus off's west to honor the men. And I thought

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:50.239
<v Speaker 2>it was great. I thought it was a great ending.

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:54.720
<v Speaker 2>And I think it would have been maybe more Shakespearean

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 2>for him to die at the end of the movie here,

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 2>But you know what shakespeare it was. It was. That's

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 2>why I'm saying Shakespearean. You know, Odysseus would have died

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:05.800
<v Speaker 2>at the end there in Penelope's arms. But I liked it.

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 2>I liked the end that he reunites with Penelope and

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 2>he did what he said he was gonna do. Telemachus

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 2>is in charge, they set west. We get a happy ending,

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 2>and I'm okay with that. I think some people might

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 2>be upset with that, but I enjoyed the shit out

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 2>of it.

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm so embarrassed, and I can't think of anything good

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I can do, like one thing that I might be

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>able to do better than anybody else. I don't have

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 1>anything you know what, driving a golf ball.

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 2>If it was suiting at a golf ball furthest and

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't with any pros, I'd have a chance.

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:35.360
<v Speaker 1>As long as there's no pros or anyone back.

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:37.839
<v Speaker 2>Woods is here, I'm losing. But other than that, oh.

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Shit, I'd lose that too.

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 2>What can I do? Uh? You know what?

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:46.359
<v Speaker 1>If they said, Okay, we're gonna set up at third

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:48.439
<v Speaker 1>base and we're gonna throw a ball to first base.

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 1>Whoever can scoop the ball the best, I have a chance.

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, yeah, okay, I'll give you.

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 1>That soft ass hands. I'll give you that anat that

0:44:57.680 --> 0:44:59.839
<v Speaker 1>he starts winding up and throwing balls over the first

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:04.400
<v Speaker 1>So that's the honesty.

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 2>That's the honesty as told by two morons. Let's get into.

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Mac Sack and Mac sac could be anything. It could

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 1>be ABOUTE and Mac. We have teased this all episode

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 1>and you have already kind of said, what the answer is?

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Give me your mount rushmore of Christopher Nolan movies.

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 2>We'll do a quick question. Actually, now that we're talking

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:34.520
<v Speaker 2>about where did dog score it fell? Do you have

0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 2>obsession higher than this?

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I kind of do, but I'd be okay, with that.

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 1>So my thing with Obsession is I love the pacing,

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I love how fresh it feels, and I also love

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 1>like the cut and run tape together feel a completely

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:54.680
<v Speaker 1>different movie.

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a good conversation. I think they're the

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 2>two best movies of the year.

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:01.799
<v Speaker 1>And also like I love the converse of this costs

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty million dollars to make the other

0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>one cost less than a million.

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<v Speaker 2>I have Obsession at thirty eight, I have This at

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 2>thirty nine. I think it's a good conversation.

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:10.480
<v Speaker 1>And also, no one told me that I had to

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<v Speaker 1>watch Obsession on a different kind of screen.

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<v Speaker 2>Agude the Mount Rushmore of Christopher Nolan movies. I have

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<v Speaker 2>Inception firmly on there, Oppenheimer firmly on there. I for

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 2>its cultural impact, I have to put The Dark un

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:27.319
<v Speaker 2>down there. You can be you what I would rather

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<v Speaker 2>watch more Right now, I'd rather rewatch Interstellar or Memento

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<v Speaker 2>over The Dark Knight.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, if I'm being fair, I think I just figured

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<v Speaker 1>it out. How would Mac become king? If the queen says,

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 1>who loves the Dark Knight? And everyone raises their hand,

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 1>but Mac, she goes, Okay, you're the only one you

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 1>don't love the Dark Knight.

0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:48.240
<v Speaker 2>I was confused by Tenant.

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Everyone raised their hands. Mac goes, but I like the

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 1>fire Truck though.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna leave the Dark Knight on there. I'm gonna

0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 2>put Memento on there as well. This so before this,

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 2>so this is now in the conversation for the fourth

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<v Speaker 2>spot with Memento and Interstellar. To me, Interstellar, I don't

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 2>have it forty either. Memento might be. I haven't watched

0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Memento it in a while. Maybe I'll rewatch Momento and

0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 2>get back to you. But I think that's the conversation

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<v Speaker 2>for the fourth spot, Memento Interstellar in the Odyssey.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I have Dark Knight Oppenheimer inception, and then

0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I think you can argue this. I don't want to

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:31.879
<v Speaker 1>go Batman begins on the list with the Dark Knight.

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go two Batman movies because, let's

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>be honest, Nolan kind of reinvented what the superhero genre

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:42.800
<v Speaker 1>was with the Dark Knight. Yeah, you know, getting so grounded.

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 1>The prestige is great and Memento is great, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I guess i'll put this for now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it might be this, It might be this.

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<v Speaker 2>You aren't considering Interstellar at all. Huh No, I think

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Interstellar has aged really well.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I will say too, so inceptions not forty hot

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:02.799
<v Speaker 1>dog movie for me? What did they give it thirty eight?

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:03.719
<v Speaker 1>When we tell you how many?

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<v Speaker 2>How so you have the Dark Knight and Force is forty? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, because I am curious if we stacked up mount

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Rushmore's of different directors, I think his might be up

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:20.719
<v Speaker 1>there with almost anybody as like on average a thirty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight and a half or something.

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 2>I think it's him and ville Neuve that's the two.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm talking like even if you're just talking top four,

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Spielberg is going to be on there.

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:30.480
<v Speaker 2>You want to do top four top fours a Mount

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Rushmore top fours for directors, So who's who's who's the fourth?

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:36.359
<v Speaker 2>If we put ville Neuve and no One.

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Ridley Scott has a really good top four. Rob Reiner, Oh,

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Rob Reiners. His fours are awesome too. And what I

0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 1>appreciate about his top four and you can make the

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:49.919
<v Speaker 1>argument for like seven or eight of his movies they're

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:54.480
<v Speaker 1>all different. Yeah, his range is fucking crazy phenom range.

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Although So if you're talking range, Spielberg's up there. I

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:01.200
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't put ville Neuve up there for Range, but range

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:04.240
<v Speaker 2>would probably be Spielberg or Nolan and maybe Ryaner.

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:07.280
<v Speaker 1>But even with Nolan though he does have his common themes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but if you can do fucking The Odyssey and

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:14.320
<v Speaker 2>The Dark Knight like that's I don't know if anyone

0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 2>else can do that.

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Quentin Tarantino, Oh, Tarantino. Tarantino might have four forties. Tarantino,

0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:20.920
<v Speaker 1>So Tarantino might be.

0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Tarantino might be number one.

0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Stanley Kubrick ever hear of him? Yeah, David Fincher.

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Kubrick's best directorial is The Fake Moonland, Peter Jackson. They

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 2>not there.

0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Sam Mendes.

0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Mendes has a couple of great ones.

0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Charlie Chaplin, No gonna be out on that one. What

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 1>you're on, Charlie Chaplin. H Wes Anderson.

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Wes Anderson has two of my favorite movies ever.

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh, James Cameron. James Cameron might have.

0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Cameron's a good one.

0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Might have four forties somewhere in there.

0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 2>He's got two.

0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, he's got Aliens Terminator too.

0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:57.040
<v Speaker 2>No my stance on Aliens too. Two I'll give it

0:49:57.080 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 2>to you.

0:49:57.480 --> 0:49:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Titanic rules.

0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Titanic is great. It's not a forty though.

0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 1>First Avatar is blue.

0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 2>If you want to talk impact, it might be Cameron

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 2>and Spielberg.

0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:08.120
<v Speaker 1>All these guys do certain things that change the way

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:11.960
<v Speaker 1>people started making movies known for we should do it

0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 1>by what they're known for on IMDb, because Cameron is

0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 1>known for being a writer on Avatar The Way of Water,

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 1>not for creating.

0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:25.680
<v Speaker 2>No, that's how I with the world.

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:29.920
<v Speaker 1>He's got some good movies. Do you ever hear of

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:30.560
<v Speaker 1>these movies?

0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:32.919
<v Speaker 2>By the way, if you're still listening to the true

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 2>send us your Nolan Rushmore. Try to limit yourself to

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:39.000
<v Speaker 2>one one of the Batman movies.

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Well, send us your Nolan mount Rushmore. But then send

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 1>us your Mount Rushmore of director's Mount Rushmore's. Yeah, but

0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:51.799
<v Speaker 1>also keep the So we need sixteen movies.

0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:53.040
<v Speaker 2>That can do it. No, you don't have to put

0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:55.160
<v Speaker 2>the movies. Well, I guess you can. I guess you can.

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 1>But you guys, you need their top four. It can't

0:50:57.680 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 1>just be the aggregate of all of their movies. If

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 1>we did that, then things are way different. Just that's no,

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:06.560
<v Speaker 1>it isn't. It might be though we're running out of ideas.

0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I put on our on our draft list.

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I have a Google doc of all of our dumb drafts.

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:14.839
<v Speaker 1>I put dreams on there.

0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Nice.

0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got some weird ones. Also, dream is in

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:21.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of movies and words. All right, dream a

0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:30.800
<v Speaker 1>little Dream, Sweetheart, dream dream on Okay, DreamCatcher, Dream Warriors,

0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:33.839
<v Speaker 1>Dream the band Ooh that's a good one. Yeah, we're

0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:36.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna we're gonna dream it up. That's in our next one,

0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the game song Dreams Banger.

0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Martin Luther King had a dream Maria had.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we can't put the word nightmare because that's a

0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of a dream, but it's not dream.

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:50.279
<v Speaker 2>I think some people would delineate between nightmares and dreams. No,

0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:52.920
<v Speaker 2>but I'm saying if it's a movie, nightmare, bad dream.

0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:55.799
<v Speaker 2>If a movie has nightmare in the title, it doesn't count.

0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:58.400
<v Speaker 2>But if you're counting one of your dreams that just

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:00.439
<v Speaker 2>so happens to be a nightmare, then it is a dream.

0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Like Shime's dream where he was gonna get axe murdered.

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:07.440
<v Speaker 2>That's a dream. Martin Luther King had a dream where

0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:09.239
<v Speaker 2>I had a dream left eye had it.

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I had that dream one time when the When the

0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Devil came and spoke to me.

0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:16.879
<v Speaker 2>I want to listen to that song. So let's wrap

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<v Speaker 1>Glen so we're paying it for says here that the

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<v Speaker 1>three most common dreams are flying or soaring.

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:08.840
<v Speaker 2>We're so ovn fly in.

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<v Speaker 1>This usually represents freedom or ambition.

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:14.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't think i've ever.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense, though I've never felt freedom.

0:53:17.600 --> 0:53:19.799
<v Speaker 2>I've had a lot of sexual dreams in my day,

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:25.720
<v Speaker 2>a lot. Yeah, I've ruined a lot of sheets because

0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:29.640
<v Speaker 2>you shit your pants, right, that's how I have sex.

0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna shit. Being chased often points to dodging responsibilities

0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:47.760
<v Speaker 1>or unresolved fears.

0:53:48.400 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I've had chase dreams, I don't recall them.

0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:52.360
<v Speaker 1>And then losing teeth.

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Never had that one.

0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I've never dreamt about losing teeth. I dream often about

0:53:57.800 --> 0:53:59.600
<v Speaker 1>It's either a day of school.

0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Do you have really mundane dreams? Or I have a.

0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Sporting event and I forget one of my equipment or

0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:09.319
<v Speaker 1>something in my backpack and then I can't participate.

0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:12.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sounds like a lot of fun.

0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 1>And everyone, they were all they were all so excited

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:17.200
<v Speaker 1>to have me there.

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:18.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then you only got one shoe.

0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:21.480
<v Speaker 1>They're all relying on me. I didn't bring a pencil

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<v Speaker 1>to class.

0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Here comes old one shoe. Goo.

0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't bring one of my goalie pads. I can't play.

0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Here comes old one pad. Check.

0:54:30.239 --> 0:54:31.880
<v Speaker 1>What does that one mean? You know, we'll look it up,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about it in news dump. Sure, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it means I'm not a reliable person. My guess Tuesdays

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<v Speaker 1>or newsdays. I have used kangaroos, Damn Burton.

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