1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: The cricket Rickett Man. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Come here. Hey everybody, welcome into another episode of The Tailgate, 3 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: brought to you by Ticketmaster. I'm your host, Siaminson across 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 2: from me, your co host, the great Chad Daniels and 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 2: Chatty Daddy. Uh not an awesome time to be a 6 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: Viking fan? 7 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: Disagree? 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's always a good time, but it's 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: it is. So I think having this show the last 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: few years, and I don't mind this at all. I 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: like this, but a lot of fans who listen to 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: our other show and this show, who are also Viking fans, 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: you just wind up in a lot of conversations. Sure, 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 2: you become a bouncing point for people's thoughts and ideas. 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: And when the team scores zero points for the first 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: time since two thousand seven and people start throwing stuff 17 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: your direction, yep, they start going, this is what's happening. 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: This is what's happening. And so I don't think anybody 19 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: thought we would be here right right. But what I 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: told a bunch of people in the DMS, as the 21 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: kids say, and I'm not trying to be sunny side up, 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 2: is I just here's the thing. Sports are an escape 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: for me. They're a place for joy, and when they 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 2: become not joy filled from a winning standpoint, I still 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: have to frame them that way because I'm not going 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: to be somebody who walks around miserable because a sports 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: team is losing. I'm not going to do that. 28 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: That's not wow. Then I'd like to know what is 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: making you miserable? 30 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: But so much other stuff. 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, there must be. There must be. 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: I think, listen, everybody ups the annie, everybody makes it 33 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: more crazy than it needs to be. And I still 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: think this team has a lot of positives. 35 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: Well and to me, you know, and I don't even 36 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: need to be mister positive guy. I just like, here's 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: big takeaway because I've been lucky enough to be a 38 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: part of the organization for a while now. Like and 39 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: I told people this in the DMS, when you at 40 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: the end of the season, they release these organizational grades 41 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 2: and and there, how do you do from a player 42 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: rehabilitation standpoint? What's your food like like? And the vikings, 43 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: every aspect of the organization, all these things you never 44 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: think about as a fan. The vikings are always right 45 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: at the top. They're one or two in all the grades. 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: And I think that's why they attract high end coaches 47 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: like Flores Josh McCown. I think that's why, you know, 48 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: assistant coaches. I think that's why it was such a 49 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: coveted head coaching position. It's just a really well run group. 50 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: And so to me, when you get in a moment 51 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: like this, whereas I think with other teams you might 52 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: like and other sports like, sometimes it can feel destitute, 53 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: right or hopeless if I used words I don't understand correctly. 54 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: Uh, and you always do. 55 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm not going to stop me from trying, right, 56 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: But I continue to believe that the number one thing 57 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: in sports is ownership and organizational structure. Especially in the NFL, 58 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: where it's a true salary cap sport, there is real parody. 59 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: Look at what's happening in the NFL right now. Like 60 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: jur producer said this before the show, there's a real 61 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: scenario where the Ravens, the Bills, and the Chiefs all 62 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: missed the playoffs. Yeah, the the Bears are that tied 63 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: for the number one seed. 64 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: I know they are, and we gave them hell both games. Dude, 65 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: think of how we were so close on the second game. 66 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: Do you think of how like how short of a 67 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: distance it is between right now and when that debacle 68 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: happened on Thanksgiving, like, and now they're the number one seed, right, 69 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: and so in these moments like I can't tell you 70 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: to not be upset. I think the people who are 71 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: the most upset are the people actually participating. 72 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: You can see it on their faces. 73 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're they're upset. So I like to remind 74 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: people that I think we do have a really strong organization, 75 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: and I don't think they're gonna go a long direction 76 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: away from turning the right corner. I don't know when, 77 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 2: I don't know how, but I but I that's kind 78 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: of where I put all my positivity in moments like this, 79 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: because I remember what it was like when we didn't 80 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: have an organization like that, right. 81 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 3: And I also want to say here regarding the quarterback situation, 82 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: Sam Darnold was a great quarterback before he got here, right, 83 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: He was good with the jet. He didn't have an offense, 84 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: and then he sat behind guys and. 85 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: So he he was good. He went in the first round. 86 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: He gets here, he's got a great offense, and he 87 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: performs right. It's not like the air in Mi, Minnesota 88 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 3: pumped his right arm up. I mean We have to 89 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 3: remember that the two people were talking about here, JJ 90 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 3: McCarthy and Max Brosmer is like, they're young kids. And 91 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 3: I've said this before on the show. They're gonna struggle, 92 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: there's gonna be growing pains, and there's gonna be problems. 93 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: But I don't think giving up on him. I mean, 94 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: you know, I wonder if if all the all the 95 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: people having trouble with this listening right now, when they're 96 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: when their children weren't walking by the time they were 97 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 3: four months old, they thought, well, that's it. 98 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: I guess we just buy him a chair. 99 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: I guess we drag him for twenty years. 100 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we just give him a lazy boy. 101 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: Well, the other question I've gotten a lot from people 102 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: is how you know, Oh no, Justin. Justin Jefferson is 103 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: the guy I'm the least concerned about in the history 104 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 2: of you know this, This is a fan base like 105 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: fairness to this city. They have lost sports loves right. 106 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: KG goes to Boston wins titles or Ties, goes to 107 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: Bustin wins titles. Randy Moss gone like Steph Marberry breaks 108 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: up the original Power duo. 109 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 3: They're like, you know who never left I'm just gonna 110 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: throw out, you know who never left Joe Mauer. Even 111 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: when Alex Rodriguez was knocking his championship ring on a table. 112 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: When they were all together, he still said, no chance. 113 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: It's a great story. 114 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: I always forget about that. You know. One thing I 115 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: wish that we could change is Minnesota fans that I'm 116 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: kind of tired of. And I'm gonna go at the 117 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: fans here a little bit so you can reel me 118 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: back in. We're actually not that special. We act like 119 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: we're like we have a really long championship drought. That 120 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: is true for the four major sports. It's absurd. But 121 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: we like, we're not the only organization to miss a kick. 122 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: We're not the only like, go look at all we 123 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: talked about the Browns earlier year. There's a lot of 124 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 2: like almost every organization has a series of plays where 125 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: they go the interception, the kick, like things that have 126 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: screwed them. 127 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's the the something. Yeah. 128 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: So I don't think you need to sit around. And 129 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: I think Justin Jefferson is this high team character related 130 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: of a guy, and I like that he's upset. You know, 131 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: you want your or he appears upset I would say frustrated, 132 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: it's the better word. 133 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you want that? 134 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: Now, what I will tell you, Chad is did I 135 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: am I in Paul Charchion's official Guillotine League league like 136 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: the one with the Paul with the Paul himself? And 137 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: did I play it so exceptionally this year where I 138 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: had the most money? And did I get a chance 139 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: at Justin Jefferson oh before the Lions game or so, 140 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: and take a swing and spend a lot of my 141 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: free agency dollars? 142 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,119 Speaker 1: Yeah? 143 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: And am I worried as I head into the playoffs 144 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: with my first chance ever at a title that that decision? 145 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: So do it? 146 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: Do I have? Listen, I'm heavily invested sure in Justin 147 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: Jefferson's performance, and even I not worried about the dude 148 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: at all. 149 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: Two things, I'm in a different league with you, and 150 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: I see where your standings are, and I'm not worried 151 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: about you having to be worried about anything because you're 152 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: not good at it. 153 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: And secondly, you. 154 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: Get you get so many people talking about we haven't 155 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: had a title in forever, and you go, what about 156 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: eighty seven? 157 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: What about ninety one? With the twins? 158 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: And then you get kids going like, oh I wasn't born. 159 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: Then it's like, well you should have tried harder to 160 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: be born back when in this state. 161 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: I've said that for years? Is it time I've thought 162 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: about like, do we have enough the Guillotine Leagues? Have 163 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 2: you played Guillotine League before? 164 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: I have? Yet? 165 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: Are you still in the Are you still in the 166 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: Tim Harmsten absolutely, friend of the show. I can't do 167 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: regular fantasy because. 168 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: Regular fantasy can't do you. 169 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: It doesn't I don't need that. I don't feel like 170 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: there's a lot of skill in it. It's just whoever, 171 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: whoever drafted Jonathan Taylor in the fourth round this year 172 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 2: because nobody thought he was gonna be good. Guess what, 173 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: that's who's probably gonna win your league. 174 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't play one guy. 175 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: You play two running backs or quarterback, two receivers, a 176 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: tight end, a defense, a kicker, and a swing. 177 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: You know, I'm right. It's called the flex i like 178 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: the Guillotine League for those who aren't familiar, because everybody 179 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: Vante Adams. 180 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: I took to DeVante Adams and you're gonna tell me that's lucky, 181 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: that's a still dude. 182 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I washed him in receiver. 183 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: I like his adages and I love that he has 184 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: a taco bell in his house, so I took him 185 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: thinking like that nutrition plus the new Rams offense boo yeah, 186 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: and guess what I am winning? 187 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: Winning, winning. 188 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: Do you like the Guillotine League? 189 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:31,359 Speaker 1: Yeah? 190 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: So for those who aren't familiar, everybody you get like 191 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: sixteen or seventeen guys. Everybody plays. Everybody the lowest scorach 192 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: week is kicked out. You have a certain amount of 193 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 2: free agency dollars all year to spend, and you blindly 194 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: bid on the players of the guy who got kicked 195 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: out each week. It is if everybody is heavily invested 196 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: in the way the game is played, it's the most 197 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: fun fantasy game I've ever played. If not everybody is, 198 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: somebody gets like Saquon Barkley for a dollar and the 199 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: whole league is pointless. But if everybody's invested, I'm obsessed 200 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: with it. Do you think I've been I've been waiting 201 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: on this because you don't like to get involved. You 202 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: and I are two tangled, right. I think I think 203 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: we're involved in too many things together. 204 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: Well, there's no question your son or other podcast. 205 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: Dude, our other other podcasts that hasn't come out yet. 206 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: Size Gray's Anatomy, a Gray's Anatomy review podcast where I 207 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: tell you about each episode as I watch. 208 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: It, and then I just reply that your son is 209 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: my son. 210 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: The But I do think we should intertwine deeper, and 211 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 2: I think we should start a comedian's guillotine league. 212 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: Nobody will take it serious. 213 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: Here's the problem with But then do we do a 214 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: non comedian's gillotine. 215 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: We have to we have to find some people that 216 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 3: really care about winning. Yeah, because comedians, comedians, especially now 217 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: comedians are like, I don't want to win. I just 218 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 3: want to have fun, and I want to make sure 219 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 3: everyone else has fun. Comedians right now are great grandmas. 220 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 3: I just want everybody to tie. 221 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: I want to talk about why losing matters. I want 222 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: to talk about why losing is good for you. Yeah, 223 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: why is that? 224 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: Who is? 225 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: Who are we doing? I know who we're doing. Mike 226 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: Croning very specific, micron very specifically, Mike Cronin. That's a 227 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: shot that not everybody in the audience is going to understand. 228 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: But your Minnesota Vikings are playing Washington this week. I'm 229 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to remain curious as we go forward. That's 230 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: where I'm going to say, let's go to commercial. I 231 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: want to talk a little bit about because I will 232 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: unwind if I focus too hard on where we're at. 233 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: I want to focus a little bit on the insanity 234 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: that is the rest of the league. Sure, So, can 235 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: we come back from break and talk about that? 236 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: I hope so oh, I hope so too. 237 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: As the official ticket marketplace of the Minnesota Vikings in 238 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: the NFL, Ticketmaster is the safest and most convenient marketplace 239 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: to score fully verified Viking tickets. To get those touchdown 240 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: celebrations ready and score your tickets today at ticketmaster dot 241 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 2: com slash Vikings. Hey Viking fans, right now you can 242 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: pick up a commemorative Pepsi Vikings Cup at us Bank 243 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: Stadium participating High v Fast and Fresh locations and Buffalo 244 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: Wild Wing locations for your chance to win Victor's Ride 245 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: or other great prizes. Viking Fans deserve Pepsi Skull. Welcome 246 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: back to the tailgate, Sion and Sin Chad Daniels, Minnesota 247 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 2: Vikings fans. But we're going to use this next segment 248 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: to talk about the rest of them. 249 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: Well, look, let me throw this out. Let me throw 250 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 3: this out. First, I hate to interrupt you, but I 251 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: do want to use this segment to let people know 252 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: that are listening that if you have your headphones plugged 253 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 3: into your computer and you have slippers on and it's winter, 254 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: don't drag your feet on the carpet when your headphones 255 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: are in because an electric bolt will go from one 256 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: headphone to the other and it will fry your brain. 257 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: Anyways, I feel great, that hurt. What were you saying. 258 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: You look like somebody who just got all their pain erase, 259 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 2: but also their abilities and memories. That's the look on 260 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: your face. 261 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm Jim Carrey and the Spotless Sunshine whatever 262 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 3: that movie. 263 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: Is nailed it. All three underdogs win on Thanksgiving. Yeah, 264 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,239 Speaker 2: Green Bay beats Detroit, Dallas beats Kansas City, Cincinnati beats Baltimore, 265 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: and we're in just this really weird place. Like we mentioned, 266 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: the three perennial powerhouses in THEFC could all miss the playoffs. 267 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: Chicago somehow beats Philly. Like, let me tell you something 268 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: about our fan base. Our fan base is upset, frustrated. 269 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what our fan base isn't doing 270 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: when we are one of the top teams in the 271 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: NFC and we lose an important game against another top 272 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: team in the NFC. We're not going out and egging 273 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator's house, which is what people in Philly 274 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: are doing. 275 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 3: I mean, and on their way to the house, they're 276 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: still eating cop horse crap. 277 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: They did that when they won the Super Bowl? Did 278 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: they did that when they want? Of course, somebody's getting 279 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: egged when they lose. 280 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 3: You know, A shout out to the Vikes defense against 281 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 3: the Bears in that second game. That was unbelievable performance. 282 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: The Chicago thing is interesting to me because on one hand, 283 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: you're like, well, you can't deny nine to three. It 284 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: would be so insane for all of a sudden, like wait, 285 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: are the Bears are the actual number one seed? They 286 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: are succeeding in end of games at a rate that 287 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: is pretty rare, and you get a lot of credit 288 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: for that, And then you also wonder can it hold up? 289 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you I need it not to 290 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: hold up. I don't want to wish a whole city 291 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: a big loser, you know, a big losing moment. But 292 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: I don't need this universe where the Bears are the 293 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: best team in art and only because I know how 294 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: good Green Band Detroit area. I don't like that future. 295 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: I need some crumbling to happen in Chicago. 296 00:14:58,680 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it has to. 297 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: I think just coordinators need to realize that if you 298 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: have a fourteen point lead, a last minute touchdown isn't 299 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 3: going to matter, So you just need to take care 300 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: of that. 301 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: You need to wrap that up against the Bears. 302 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: The Niners are I think they're m pick to go, 303 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: and I know no one agrees with that, but I 304 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: think it's just because of the narratives early in the 305 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: season and the roster turnover. Basically, the NFC West is 306 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: doing what the NFC North did last season. Rams are 307 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: nine and three, they're technically the two seed tied record wise. 308 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: Seahawks are nine and three technically like they're the five seed. 309 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: The Niners are nine and four, they're the seven seed. 310 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: But I think when it's all said and done, you 311 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: might go, oh, the Niners pulled it together at the 312 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: exact right time, and oh yeah, we forgot rock Perty 313 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: and their whole team. They're like, really, really, really good 314 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: at football. 315 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: Did you have the Rams picked as your favorite there 316 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: before the Panther game. 317 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: I had the Rams picked as a potential, like one 318 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: of the teams that I thought was most likely to 319 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: come out in the preseason. Okay, I just think they 320 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: are so well coached and that when we lost to 321 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: them in the playoffs last year, that defense, you found 322 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,359 Speaker 2: out how old some of those guys were, and you went, oh, 323 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: this it felt like you remember when the OKC thunder 324 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: had Harden, Durant and Russ Westbrook all like on early contracts, Like, well, 325 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: this will probably be some version of a problem going forward. 326 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah you go, oh, man, I had their shoes in college. 327 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: This isn't going to go great. 328 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: You had their shoes you weren't you in your you 329 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: went to college in your fifties. 330 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, non traditional student? You ever heard of it? 331 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: Non trad you're back to school mode. 332 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: Thank you. 333 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: On the bubble, Detroit, Dallas, and Carolina. I didn't see 334 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: Carolina being there. I certainly didn't see Detroit down here. 335 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: If there's a universe where Detroit, Buffalo, the Bengals, which 336 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: will put that, I'm on the outscrews because they having 337 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: a good season because Joe Burrow is hurt. But the Bengals, 338 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, and the Ravens all don't make it what 339 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: a it's kind of what I'm saying, what a bizarro universe? 340 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: And it's this feels like the best version of the 341 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: NFL since Tom Brady retired. This one year where you go, 342 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: I actually don't know. Every year, you felt like it'll 343 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: probably be the Chiefs. If not, it's the Bills. Right now, 344 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: I don't know in the AFC, and I for sure 345 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: don't know in the NFC. It feels more like a 346 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: real we're coming up on a real tournament. 347 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's gonna be good. And I love 348 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 3: fresh blood. Right, you get sick of going, oh, it's 349 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: these two again. I can't stand it. Even when it's 350 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 3: the same two in the final four. It bothers me. 351 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: I want fresh blood. And you won't to talk about 352 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: the Patriots, Dude, Drake May is leading that team. 353 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, Dude, watching those guys. 354 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 2: And Denver's defense is so good and Sean Pai. That's 355 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: the thing. When you have an offensive coach that good 356 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: and a defense that good, it's just gonna be weird. 357 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: You just look at standing and you go New England, Denver, Jacksonville, 358 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 2: and I love me some Jacksonville. Yeah, I need one 359 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: of two things. I either need a villain that I'm 360 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: rooting against, which I like Patrick Mahomes. It's not fun 361 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: to have the chiefs of the villain, or I need 362 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: this like, oh my god, I don't really know these teams. 363 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: Any of them could take it. Like I know, it's 364 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: crazy to say I could find myself rooting for New 365 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: England in the game because they had all that success 366 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: for years. But I like Rabel and I really like 367 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 2: watching Drake May. 368 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a solid, solid quarterback. 369 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: And I think when you get fresh blood, it's like 370 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: watching the March Madness. Yes, when a team hasn't been 371 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 3: in ever before, and so all they do is run 372 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: stories on all the coaches and all the players, and 373 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: you're four games into this tournament and they keep winning 374 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 3: as the underdog, and before the game you're like having 375 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: to have a box of tissues there because you're weeping 376 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: about one of the stories. 377 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: That's the kind of stuff. 378 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 3: I like, Man, if my team's not in it, teach 379 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: me something and let me watch something awesome. 380 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: Well, And and then you look at the games going 381 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: into week fourteen and they're nuts. You have Dallas Detroit 382 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: where these are two teams right on the edge and 383 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: whoever loses this one there's in it. 384 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. They both need it. 385 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 2: They both need it, and they're both so good offensively 386 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: that that could be an incredible game to watch. You 387 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: have Indy Jacksonville, Jacksonville trying to hold onto that spot 388 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: in Indy's kind of sputtering with two straight losses. And 389 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: then and I know it might happen sometimes it's just time. 390 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: But the most insane take in the NFL right now 391 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: is Mike Tomlin shouldn't be our coach anymore. 392 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: Oh that's right. 393 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: I know people are booing, they're saying, fire Tomlin, get 394 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 3: out of here. 395 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: What are you even? 396 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: I love our coach, but let's let's make me the 397 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: head of a brand new fake team and you give 398 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 2: me a Mike Tomlin to start an organization. Yeah, I 399 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: would be running around high fiving people. And and it's 400 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 2: just nuts that Baltimore Pittsburgh game. Baltimore is favored by 401 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: almost a touchdown. That'll be a really intense match given 402 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: everything that's going on. And then we get to Chicago 403 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: and Green Bay. Yeah, and it's just an all time 404 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: bleep you moment for the Bears if they want it right, 405 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: the Packers have owned green Bay forever, and you have 406 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: a chance at nine to three to go in six 407 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 2: and a half point underdogs and drop it on their face. 408 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah what like again, I'm not rooting for the Bears. 409 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: I don't want success for the Bears, but I can 410 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 2: understand one of those moments where you get to show 411 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: everybody up and it's an all time opportunity. 412 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 413 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: This is like watching the two kids that used to 414 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 3: bully you in in elementary school fight. 415 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: You go. I don't want any of them to win somehow. 416 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: But I certainly don't want big market. 417 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: I don't want Yeah, I don't want there to even 418 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 3: be a tie. I somehow want both of them to lose. 419 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 3: I want each team to get penali so severely that 420 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 3: they both have to put a loss on their record, and. 421 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 2: That's all we can help for. Let's let that be 422 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: Instead of doing a game prediction. Chad and I's prediction 423 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 2: is that Green Bay and Chicago will tie, which is 424 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: essentially an unhelpful blemish on both of their records. 425 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 3: You know what I think is interesting is green Bay 426 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 3: because they tied, it actually did help them because they 427 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: have even though they have one less win, they have 428 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 3: one less loss, and so they are actually above somebody 429 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 3: with one more win. 430 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: I don't get it, but they need wins right now, 431 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: and so let's give them. Let's give them each a 432 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 2: half loss, so we call it a tie, half win, 433 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: half loss. That's gonna do it for us on the tailgate, Chad, 434 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: I care about you. I hope, I hope deeply that 435 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 2: our techt thread is a fun one this weekend. 436 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait. I listen. 437 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: I watched the Commanders, I watched them in their last game, 438 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: and I'm excited to put purple against them. 439 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: Mur you will hear from both of us again next week. 440 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for us on the tailgate. Thanks 441 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: to Chad, Thanks to all you for listening. 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