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Ben Guestling 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: with the Start's covered the Minnesota Vikings for about a 16 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: decade and a half. Now there's a podcast called Access 17 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: Vikings you can learn about via his Twitter feed at 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: Ben Guessling. And we have the Friday newsletter. We have 19 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: the every week newsletter at Ben Gessling via Twitter. Good 20 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: place to start. The Minnesota Vikings eight and a half 21 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: to nine point underdogs Sunday at ford Field eight and 22 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: a half two nine point underdogs at ford Field. The 23 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: last time they were perceived so beatable in the betting markets, 24 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: which is a roundabout way of saying, the last time 25 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,639 Speaker 2: they were this big of an underdog Week sixteen. Okay, 26 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one at green Bay thirteen point underdogs, green 27 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: Bay killed him by twenty seven. That must have swung weight. 28 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: And I think Bradbury caught a pass in that game 29 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: he did that. 30 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: I bet that line swung late because that was the 31 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: game Cousin's missed with COVID. I bet that's mind change 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: news hit. I think it was like a Friday Morning 33 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: man though, yes, Sean Manyon, that was the Kellen Mond. 34 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: When Mike Zimmer was asked, do you want to see 35 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: kelln Mond? Not particularly? 36 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: Right? Why not? I see him every day? Brad Barry 37 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: caught a pass in that he did like a deflection, right, yep. 38 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 4: I think we did see Kellen Mond for one drive 39 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 4: in that game too many like hurt his finger and 40 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 4: had to get it wrapped or something. 41 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: But Mond goes like two or three for five yards. 42 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. 43 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: I think that was what a game. That was some 44 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 2: of the with the Carson Wentz news from yesterday and 45 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: Carson may speak tomorrow, do do you know if he's 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: speaking tomorrow. 47 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: I don't know for sure. I wouldn't be shocked. I 48 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: guess if he wanted to kind of give a valedictory statement. 49 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he might speak this week and it could 50 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: be tomorrow, but nevertheless would be it'd be good to 51 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: hear from him about everything I, you and we and 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: others are seen on social media about or maybe even 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: in print. Maybe you hear it on the radio or 54 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: see it on TV. Carson wentz, heading to heading to 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: IR which there's part of it. I'm just going to 56 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: frame it up like this. There's part of it from 57 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 2: I dream know how to describe it. Fans, football, just people, 58 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: just people where it's basically like there was a part 59 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: of the game Thursday night where Kevin O'Connell went Mortal 60 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: Kombat on it and looked at Khalil Mack and said 61 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: finish him talking about his quarterback. Carson wentz, Yeah, that's 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: how summer making it sound. What are your. 63 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: Thoughts, Yeah, there's been a lot of that sort of thing, 64 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 3: and no, that's not what happened. I think there are 65 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: a lot of interests here from different parties that can 66 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: align or they can be competing in some cases. What 67 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: I mean by that is Carson Wentz, as Kevin O'Connell 68 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: said it after the game, was asked multiple times, do 69 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: you want to come out? And he said, I want 70 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: to stay in the game. And I'm sure in his 71 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: mind it's he knows the timeline with JJ McCarthy. He 72 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: knows this, maybe you know, the last call at the 73 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: OK Corral, so to speak, and he's wanting to stay 74 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: in and play and try to help get the team 75 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: back in the game. And then eventually it gets to 76 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: a point where the pain tolerance is so much that 77 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: it's it's just you can't go when it's over. But 78 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: I think some of it for him is saying, you know, 79 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: I want to stay in the game. I want to play. 80 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: I want to try to help my team come back 81 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: from this. So you have that piece of it. And 82 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: then you know the line they're playing behind too, is 83 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 3: you have Christian Darisol out and you have Brian O'Neil out, 84 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: and part of that is they are trying to be 85 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: careful with injuries in those particular cases, so you know, 86 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: those things compete. I think with Wentz and where he 87 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: is kind of being exposed to more pressure because that 88 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: offensive line is as beat up as it is, and 89 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: then you have the question of Max Brosmurer. I mean, 90 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: one of the many theories I've seen in the last 91 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 3: twenty four hours is this idea that, oh, they're hiding 92 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: Max brosmur because he's better than JJ McCarthy and Kevin 93 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: O'Connell knows it and doesn't want to have everybody see it, 94 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: and that all. 95 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: That's all. That's been a lot of place. 96 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: And if that were the case, and Kevin O'Connell knew 97 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: he had basically the answer to his quarterback problem on 98 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: his bench, do we really think Kevin O'Connell is not 99 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 3: going to play that quarterback? I mean, that defies logic too, 100 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 3: But I hadn't seen that. That's been one a lot. 101 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: Two of his four years here, he has experienced significant strife. Yeah, 102 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 4: he's been doing everything he can to finalize that spot 103 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 4: right that the answer is sitting right over there, but 104 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 4: he won't do it. 105 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: But it's not the preferred answer because it's not the 106 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: one he drafted. It's like, I mean, this is Trey 107 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: Lance brock purty stuff. I suppose, but it I think 108 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: in a lot of cases, and it will be interesting 109 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: to hear if Wentz talks because I mean, the sentiment 110 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: after the game was I wanted to fight through it 111 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 3: as far as I could. 112 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean. 113 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: And the other thing is, from what I understand from yesterday, 114 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: he found out after that game in London how bad 115 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: this injury was. In other words, when he's preparing for 116 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: that Philly game, he knows the same thing, he knows 117 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 3: the same risks, he knows the same pain. He's going 118 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 3: to have to manage through it as he did in 119 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: the Chargers game, and he gets through that one. Obviously 120 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: had a lot of red zone mistakes in that and 121 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: the team had a lot of red zone mistakes in 122 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: that game. But he gets through it, plays the whole game, 123 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: practices and full the whole week. So this was not 124 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: something that became an issue for the first time on 125 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 3: Thursday night. This is not something the Vikings learned about 126 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: on Thursday night for the first time. And I don't believe, 127 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: at least from what I know at this point, that 128 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 3: the injury was any more severe. I mean, they had 129 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: a bigger harness on it. You're trying to figure out 130 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: what's going to work better to stabilize that thing. But 131 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 3: my understanding is the damage was done by that hit 132 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: in London. I don't I don't think this got progressively 133 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: worse other than you know, you're just trying to manage 134 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: through a lot of pain and pain. Yeah, yeah, you 135 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: get to a point where it's it's a lot to 136 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 3: deal with, as we all saw Thursday night. But yeah, 137 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 3: I think some of this is you have a quarterback 138 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: that has some agency in this too, and that discussion. 139 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 3: The quarterbacks always gonna have a voice in am I 140 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 3: got a play or am I not? And I think 141 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: that's part of what happen here. What does the scribes 142 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: take on doctors, legitimate doctors mds, splashing on social media 143 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: while not having access to the medical team here or 144 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: being on the sideline, or having access to the head coach. Yeah, 145 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: I mean that's always tricky because you do have I mean, 146 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: you have doctors who are obviously more educated and more 147 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: informed on what these injuries could be than the general 148 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: public is. But I have a hard time with it 149 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: when doctors don't hage it by saying I don't obviously 150 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: have access to the medical records, like if you're offering 151 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: a take and saying I am couching this with the 152 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: caveat that I don't have the medical records, it's easier 153 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: for me to be like, Okay, yeah, this is in 154 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: good faith. Then if it's oh, this is absolutely what 155 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: it is. They need to do this, You just you 156 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: don't have enough information. And I know that social media 157 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: generally is not a place where the phrase you know, 158 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: I don't know it could be this, but I don't 159 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: have enough information to make an informed, complete statement on this. 160 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: That doesn't tend to play well on social media. 161 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: But I tend to I mean, call me old fashioned, 162 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: I guess, but I tend to feel a little more 163 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: affinity for those who can be like, hey, I don't 164 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: have everything here, but here's my best guess at it. 165 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 166 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 4: I feel like they're really mostly battling optics here in 167 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: some respects, like actual literal visual optics. 168 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: A standpoint, hard to watch. 169 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 4: That he's in agony, yep, And you know that you 170 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 4: have the healthy cat on the bench. 171 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: Max bros. 172 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 4: Right, and so you know the one thing, I mean, 173 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 4: I think you can have conversations about when you finally 174 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 4: did decide to put Max in at that point, because 175 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 4: Carson frankly was not I mean the team in general. 176 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: That's that's why there's multiple things that you need to 177 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,359 Speaker 4: address with this team conversationally. The team wasn't playing winning football. 178 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 4: So the idea, you know, does does does Carson on 179 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 4: some levels provide you with a better chance to win 180 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 4: the Max Brozmer I think the answer is yes, but 181 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 4: nothing was working right on Thursday. But the optics of 182 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 4: him in agony, Yeah, And you have to like, they 183 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 4: did not force him into the game. Carson's not sitting 184 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: there going guys, I just I just need a break. 185 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: Guys, guys, I just just give. 186 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 4: Me a breather, let me have a drive off. And 187 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell's literally pulling him onto the field. That's not 188 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 4: a thing that happened. 189 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 3: If that was the thing that happened, you could see 190 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 3: some players probably playing that don't. 191 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 192 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: So I just think the you know, the the optics 193 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 4: thing with the agony in combination ben with if it 194 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 4: was Brett Rippon on the bench and not the undrafted 195 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 4: Gopher cat with a lot of built local equity. I 196 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 4: don't think that we're discussing this in the social media 197 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 4: sphere the same way. 198 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: No. I think that's right. 199 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 3: I think there is a particular component to this because 200 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 3: it is somebody that the local fan base knows and 201 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: likes and played well for the golfers and playball in 202 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: the preseason. I mean, we did do this a little 203 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 3: bit with Kyle Slotter Tis where he played well in 204 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: the preseason, and hey, this is something that could be intriguing. 205 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 3: But again, if the Vikings seeing him every day and 206 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 3: seeing him throughout training camp and seeing all of these 207 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: quarterbacks for as much time as they have had reached 208 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: a conclusion this is the guy that gives us the 209 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 3: best chance to win in twenty twenty five, they are 210 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: not keeping him on the bench because of trying to 211 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: hide some admission that he's better than the guy they 212 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: drafted tenth overall. I just I don't think that a 213 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 3: head coach who is paid to win games now for 214 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: a team that likes to be in contention regularly, is 215 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 3: going to actively undermine that because of an optical question 216 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 3: on is it the quarterback that I drafted or is 217 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: it the quarterback I signed as an undrafted free agent 218 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 3: because I have a good local relationship with the head coach, 219 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: which means I got to see him with the protag twice, 220 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: which means I like them, which means we brought him in. 221 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, there is that component, there's a 222 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: component to the local angle here, but I don't think 223 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: that is going to be such that there's some grand 224 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 3: conspiracy to hide Max Brosmer because of the optics of it. 225 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: How far down the road or when do you get 226 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: on this path if you even do figuring out if 227 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: they're going to sign a veteran this week? Yeah, are 228 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: they going to make a trade or are they going 229 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 2: to go with the kids? Go one two with the 230 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: kids into the Lions game. I'm cool with that if 231 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: they do well my opinion. 232 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and they did fill the roster spot 233 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 3: yesterday with Ben Simms, and not that that won't create 234 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: other opportunities to make roster moves later this week. I mean, 235 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: the first names I would look at would be the 236 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: guys that have been here. I mean, if you can 237 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: bring Desmond Ritter back here. I think Brett Repin is 238 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: on a practice squad me with the Colts, Yep, you 239 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 3: could do that. 240 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: I suppose. 241 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 3: Those would be the automatics that I would think about, 242 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: just people that have already been in the offense and 243 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 3: would give you another option. I think they're going to 244 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 3: have to find another quarterback. I don't think they're going 245 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 3: to want to just go with two in the building 246 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: and not have a third at some point. So I 247 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 3: would expect there's a quarterback move here this week, and 248 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 3: we'll see if it's somebody outside of those two names. 249 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: But that's the first place my mind goes is those 250 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 3: two guys. And you know, you could make moves. I mean, 251 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 3: I could try to make a trade for Nick Mullins, 252 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: I suppose, and I'm conjecturing here, but you know, people 253 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: that have been here and would know the offense. I 254 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: think some of those things could be options. But I 255 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 3: mean the easy solutions would be guys that have been 256 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 3: here this year already and maybe relatively easy to acquire. 257 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 3: I do think they're going to be looking in that market, though. 258 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: I watched minimal football this weekend outside of Green Bay 259 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh. Yeah, kind of ramping up for that game. 260 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: The afternoon games when I had an opportunity to watch, 261 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: weren't that great. So I just absence makes the heart 262 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 2: grow fonder, That's basically the way to look at it. Yeah, 263 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: So anybody happened to know how Cousins played in that 264 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: Atlanta game. 265 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 3: I looked at the box score didn't look great. I 266 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 3: don't think it was very good. I didn't want it either. 267 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: I was up in the luth celebrating my twentieth wedding 268 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: anniversary with my beautiful wife. 269 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: So I watched very yeah anniversary. 270 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 3: Yes, I so we had very little football. I got 271 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: back home and watched the Packers and the Steelers on 272 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: Sunday night. But yeah, had very little on other than that. 273 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, from what I saw in the box score 274 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 3: and just a little lot of hurt. I don't think 275 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: Cousin played totally well. 276 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: No, I don't think he had any turnovers in the game. 277 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: I think it was of the I mean, we watched 278 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 4: a little bit of ourselves on Thursday night. Felt like 279 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: everything that could go wrong for the Falcons. They didn't 280 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 4: have Drake London in the mid killed, was Kyle Pitts 281 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 4: even playing. I forget had a bad game. Yeah, yeah, 282 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 4: they lost. I think it was like thirty four or something. 283 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, like it was. It was really bad. Yeah, so uh, 284 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 2: that is that a thing. I mean, we can we 285 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 2: can move on. 286 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 4: From the idea of trading for Kirk Cousins, right, we 287 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 4: can move on from that. 288 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: I'm just satisfying those who live in the realm of 289 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: the low hanging fruit. So therefore that's going to come out. Yeah, 290 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: because yeah, it's and I figure we would just bring 291 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 2: it up Ben Gasoline at Ben Gasoline via Twitter that 292 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: covers the vikings for the Star Tribune Startribune dot com. 293 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: So would you make McCarthy into Brosmer one two prohibitively 294 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: favored this week into this game, Yeah, I would. 295 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: I don't think it's terribly likely that you bring somebody 296 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: in that is going to jump Max Brosmer as the 297 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: number two spot. I mean, this is probably a little 298 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 3: bit like the Josh Dobbs thing in twenty three if 299 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: you bring somebody in as you're trying to get somebody 300 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: up to speed relatively quickly, especially if it's not somebody 301 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: that's already been in the building this year. But yes, 302 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: I would expect it's McCarthy to brosmurr and then you're 303 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: going to want somebody else as an emergency. Third, I 304 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: would expect that's probably out goes and in fairness, you know, 305 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: and with respect to JJ McCarthy, it until they rattle 306 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: off a consecutive games, really just consecutive games. 307 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: Let's say consecutive is three. But until he starts making 308 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: all these dances, who is he? He's somebody who played 309 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: in a preseason game and played well, and then nobody 310 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: saw him again for a year. Didn't exactly know why 311 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: for a while, but he was gone, and then you 312 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: get excited about him, and he you know, he plays 313 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: a little bit in that Houston preseason game, and then 314 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: he's gone again, and he's gone again for a month, 315 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: month and change. So am I going to say injury prone? 316 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: That's unfair to say that, specifically with the high ankle, 317 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: and yeah, the freakish nature of the first year he 318 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: was in the league, the preseason game, but nevertheless, until 319 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: you see him play five, ten, fifteen fifty games consecutively, 320 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: I you know, you just need to be on alert 321 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: with that, right, Yeah, for sure. 322 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: And the where we're at at the moment is we've 323 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: seen him for two games and the second one was 324 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 3: not good, and a lot of the first one was 325 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: kind of disorganized and disheveled a little bit until they 326 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: can get things going again in the four quarters. So 327 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: the ledger is stacked heavily in favor of time. We 328 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 3: have not seen him at this point, and he needs 329 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: to do some things to balance the ledger. I guess 330 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: I'd put it that way, yeah, because yes, he does 331 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: need to have some consistency. He needs to have some developments, 332 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: some things that people can grab onto to say, Okay, 333 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: yes there is progress here, there's some consistency, and there's 334 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: some durability. I mean that is the thing as we 335 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: talk about Kirk Cousins, that is the one thing that 336 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: you could hang your hat on with him in six 337 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: years here is he was going to be on the 338 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: field just about every week. And that stretch of QB 339 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 3: durability in this franchise's history is not very common. So 340 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: you need quarterbacks that you can count on to be 341 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: there every single week. And I think until JJ McCarthy 342 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 3: does that, there is going to be some of that 343 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: question because that is such an important attribute for a 344 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: quarterback and he needs to kind of tip things back 345 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: in that direction. 346 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: Josh Allen pretty good quarterback, right, Yeah. Josh Allen twenty eighteen, 347 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: first season. Now, there was that victory as a sixteen 348 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: in that point underknock at US Thanks Stadium where he 349 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: jumping over Anthony bar Now he had two rushing touchdowns 350 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: in that game. I think He had one touchdown, zero 351 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: picks in that game. However, Josh one of the best 352 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: in the NFL, if not the best right now. So 353 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, that's not that long ago. His first season 354 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: ten touchdowns, twelve interceptions, fifty eight percent completion. Yeah, Bo Nicks, 355 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: Drake May. I mean, when we saw Drake May at 356 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: the joint practices, I was like, okay, I mean, yeah, 357 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 2: he's okay. I mean, there's nothing nothing. I was impressident 358 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 2: of the first day. The second day with maybe a 359 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: little less, but right, well, the second day counts. Yeah, 360 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: So you see what I'm saying, it's like typical for 361 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: young quarterbacks. Hey wow yeah yeah, so yea being here, 362 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 2: Nixon may have started to combine forty five, but early 363 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: in their runs there were a lot of mistakes and 364 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 2: a lot of growing pains through which Peyton and or 365 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: at that time Girod Mayo through they had to endure. 366 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: So with May and Nix, clearly it's taken off. Clearly 367 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 2: it's taken off this year, and they look like they belong. 368 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: With Josh Allen, same things started end of his rookie year. 369 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: Point being here is to predict McCarthy will play this weekend, 370 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: then play the rest of the year and have a 371 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 2: three to one four to one touchdown to interception ratio, 372 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: completing sixty eight percent of his passes. Yours per attempt 373 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: is eight and a half. It runs for ten touchdowns. 374 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: It's probably a lot to ask for, right, but that's 375 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: not a lot to ask for nearing the end of 376 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: the year or next year. Point being here, and I'm 377 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: going to bring this up in much more truncated fashion 378 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: with O'Connell, just wondering what the number is, like, how 379 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 2: many games before you start to know really what you have? 380 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember there was a lot of this discussion 381 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 3: with younger quarterbacks have covered. When do you say, okay, 382 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: this is it a full season's worth? Is it sixteen 383 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: seventeen games worth? Or is it more than that that 384 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: you have to say he needs this amount of seasoning, 385 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 3: this amount of kind of incubation period. I guess before 386 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 3: he's you know what you have? I think a lot 387 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: of that question comes up. I tend to think when 388 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 3: you look at my mind goes to guys like Baker Mayfield, 389 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 3: Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones obviously great exactly, Yeah, two of 390 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 3: these three guys were here last year, so there's a 391 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 3: tie in to this as well. But you have a 392 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 3: lot of these quarterbacks. All three of these guys were 393 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: top ten picks. Mayfield was the number one pick in 394 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 3: the draft. I think Donald was number three. Where they 395 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 3: bust out with their first teams and everybody says, no, 396 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: they're done, they're washed. This isn't going to work, and 397 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: in some cases, like Donald, you're bouncing around to different 398 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 3: teams before you get in the right spot and figure 399 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 3: it out. 400 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: But those guys are in their late twenties at this point, 401 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 2: and you. 402 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 3: Look at quarterbacks that have dominated in the NFL in 403 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: recent years. It's Tom Brady in his late thirties early forties. 404 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: It's Peyton Manning in his late thirties. It's Aaron Rodgers 405 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 3: winning MVPs in his late thirties. There is something to 406 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: be said for time on task at this position and 407 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 3: just getting to the point where everything moves faster, because oh, 408 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: I've seen this defense four times and I can go 409 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 3: back to twenty you know, we'll fast forward this say 410 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: it's twenty twenty eight, and JJ mcarth can say I 411 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: can go back to twenty twenty six. I saw this 412 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 3: look against them and this is what happened. I can 413 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 3: catalog this, this time, I need to do this, and 414 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: you're processing all of that. You see quarterbacks process that 415 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: in the matter of less time than it took me 416 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 3: to say it. So that stuff doesn't happen until you 417 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: have some experience, in some time in the seat, so 418 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: to speak. And I think that sometimes why you see, 419 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: I mean, the rookie contracts and the general lack of 420 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: patience we have in society forces people to make decisions 421 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: on these quarterbacks faster than they probably develop. But you 422 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: see guys that hit what they're saying in teams like Mayfield, 423 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 3: like Darnold, like Daniel Jones, in some cases third or 424 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 3: fourth teams, whatever, it is the reason to have patients 425 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 3: with a quarterback. I think those guys are examples of that. 426 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 3: And it just is a reminder of how long it 427 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 3: takes for this thing to click for a lot of guys, 428 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 3: because it is really difficult to do. 429 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's it's interesting too where it kind of 430 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 4: tells you then that there's no great formula for finding 431 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 4: that QB because the unicorns, in some respects of the 432 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 4: Tom Brady's and the Peyton mannings, you think about that generation. 433 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 4: At one point it was you can only win a 434 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 4: Super Bowl on a quarterback's rookie contract. And you think 435 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 4: about Flacco early on with the Ravens. You think about 436 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 4: Russell Wilson more recent example, and how is his career 437 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 4: has completely fallen off a freaking cliff. And meanwhile, you'll 438 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 4: have a Patrick Mahomes that sits for a year behind 439 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 4: an already playoff team steps in and it's been dynasty 440 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 4: like ever since. You know, the the sure, true and 441 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 4: tried approach to finding one of these guys and getting 442 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 4: the right answers still was difficult and in some ways 443 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 4: not defined in terms of a specific path to get there. 444 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is tricky. I remember talking to Ron Wolf 445 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 3: about this probably well only would have been twenty fourteen 446 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: when the Vikings were in the quarterback market back then, 447 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 3: and obviously made the trade for Brett. Favre had drafted 448 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 3: Matt Hasselback, he drafted Aaron Brooks, he drafted I think 449 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: Mark Brunell, I mean, had a lot of quarterbacks come 450 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: through there that turned into solid NFL starters and is 451 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: in the NFL Hall of Fame now in large part 452 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: because of the trade he made for Prett Farv and 453 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 3: one of the thing he said, one of the things 454 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 3: he said in that conversation is I've missed on quarterbacks before. 455 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a guy that is known as 456 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: one of the great finders of quarterback talents, one of 457 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 3: the great scouts of quarterback talent in the modern era, 458 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 3: and he's still like, yeah, it's not easy to do 459 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 3: all the time. So I think where it gets tricky 460 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 3: is when you are I mean, they've put their eggs 461 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 3: in this basket and I think they're going to be there. 462 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 3: I think that decision makes sense. It does expose you 463 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 3: to the idea that you're going to miss because it 464 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: is possible, if not likely, that you're going to miss 465 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 3: on these quarterbacks just because the hit rate is not 466 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 3: very high. But that does come with a risk to reputation, 467 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: it comes with a risk to job security, all of 468 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: those things. But you have to go through it because 469 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: if you do hit on the guy the benefit. Ron 470 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 3: Wolf is in the Hall of Fame because of one decision. 471 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: I mean, he had a great career obviously other than that, 472 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: but the one decision he made to get Brett Favre 473 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 3: then opens the door for everything else. They did in 474 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 3: the nineties. I mean, Bill Pollian is in the Hall 475 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: of Fame because of all probably two I mean getting 476 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: Jim Kelly and then getting Peyton Manning. It's the benefit 477 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: of it is that if you hit I mean, this 478 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 3: is what Brett Peach in Kansas City too. If you 479 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: find the right one, you are living off that decision 480 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 3: for fifteen years. So the payout is really great, even 481 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 3: if the odds are long. So it's why everybody comes 482 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 3: back and plays the game. 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And a question for the coach and 508 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 4: will I will sift through them and find one for 509 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell when he's in studio with us at eleven. 510 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: Questions or comments for the head coach Kevin O'Connell via 511 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: the free iHeart Audio app. You can do that now. 512 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: Kevin'll be here about twenty five minutes from now. Ben Geslin, 513 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: who covers the team for the Star Tribune, he's with 514 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: us each and every Tuesday at Twin City's Orthopedics Performance Center. 515 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: I mentioned mentioned from the outset the podcast. You take 516 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: part in access vikings, any controversy any even controversial from 517 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: Access Vikings in that podcast of late like disagreements, debates, 518 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: you guys squabble in a little bit or what. I 519 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: don't know. 520 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: I don't think we've had anything terribly squabble worthy lately. 521 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: I think we Thursday night it was I think it 522 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 3: was just Emily and me after the game. We'll do 523 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 3: one this week. But yeah, it's been I think usually 524 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: we just she rolls her eyes in all of our 525 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: you know, old guy, old nineties movie references and that 526 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 3: she doesn't understand. So we've been Actually one of the 527 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 3: things we've been doing it's been kind of fun is 528 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: Andrew and I will get on some rabbit trail about 529 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 3: some game that happened in twenty fifteen or something, and 530 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: we've basically made a list of, Hey, here are all 531 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: these old games you need to watch to probably understand 532 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 3: the context of all the stuff we're talking about. But 533 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 3: just like moments, and it's recent Vikings history because this 534 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 3: is year fourteen for me, year thirteen for Andrews, so 535 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 3: we're kind of limiting it to that scope of time. 536 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: But we've given our a few before that as well. 537 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's that's been the thing lately, we've kind 538 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 3: of sent her on a homework project of go watch 539 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 3: some of these. Yeah, and we did not pick all 540 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: the fun we gave her like the Buffalo game in 541 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 3: twenty two obviously, but we gave her like the game 542 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 3: at sixteen because we talk about that a lot. 543 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: Where what about the Kamarica game and the pandemic when 544 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 2: he had zix We I don't know if you had 545 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: that on the list. We had the twenty sixteen winning Green. 546 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: Bay, Yeah, where nobody wanted to play road shadowing Jordy Nelson. 547 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: I mean that game. We told her like we rung 548 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: that up. 549 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 4: Enough Rogers near half on the scram Yeah, save your 550 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 4: roads on skates. 551 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: Yes, ceiling goes for two hundred, but I think Jordi 552 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 2: had two touchdowns. You had a big day. 553 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, So we've put some of those in there 554 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 3: because just some of those moments that had some ramifications 555 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 3: that carried into future discussions, We've we've given her some 556 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 3: of those too. So that's been probably a lot of 557 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 3: it lately. 558 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: Well, there's a but isn't there a forty nine Ers 559 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: game not against the Vikings. I don't think that you 560 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 2: did that. Emily needs to know about. It's the one 561 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: where it to put the Carson Wentz situation in context. Yeah, 562 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers had a safety named Ronnie Lott 563 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: who I believe had part of a finger amputated just 564 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: so he could play. Yes, so that that's kind of 565 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 2: like decades old contact like got. 566 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 3: Cut off on the end up on the guy's helmet, 567 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 3: didn't it. Like the really fragment of his finger ended up, I. 568 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 4: Mean like stuck like a piece of terrific sauces, right, 569 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 4: And he had a decision tap out or play, and 570 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 4: he said, cut off the tip of my finger. 571 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: I want to play. Yeah, there is some summer just 572 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: wired differently. 573 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 3: He's a Jeff Overbaugh in twenty eighteen he loses part 574 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 3: of his finger. 575 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 2: Oh wow with the vikings. 576 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 3: And we had that game in there, the Thursday night game, 577 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 3: Jeff Overbaugh the long snapper. Yeah, because I'm thinking Colisseum 578 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 3: Kevin McDermott. I thought I thought it was it's McDermott. Well, oh, 579 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 3: you're right, yeah, McDermott lost it. Dermott was actually here. 580 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: Overbough came in because of that an overball blue or 581 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: played into blowing the miracle game seventeen. Yeah, when he 582 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: went in the playoff game, when he went to the 583 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: wrong guy, there was a block punt the floodgates state. 584 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, it's McDermott and Colin Muffler were actually 585 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: here yesterday. Really, yeah, they were. 586 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 3: I think mccu McDermott's like a financial planner now, so 587 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: they were talking to players. There was like a financial 588 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: education meeting that I think he was part of. 589 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, both those guys were here yesterday. So with 590 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: under the near absolute assumption JJ McCarthy is the quarterback 591 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: at Ford Field this weekend. Who do you think gets 592 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: most of the looks with McCarthy at the helm, The 593 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: most touches are the most targets the most looks. Yeah, 594 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: I mean, like, are we just going to target justin 595 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: ten to fifteen times sales and doubles Hockinson's you know, 596 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: he's been a little non the script this year. But Ty, 597 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: it's when you think, at least when I think new 598 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: I think running swings to running backs, yeah, screams to 599 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: running backs Aaron Jones and tight ends, yeah, you know, 600 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: because it's generally within twenty yards. 601 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, the other I think that is correct. I would 602 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 3: agree with that that you're trying to make things a 603 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 3: little more user friendly. I mean kind of like we saw. 604 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 3: I mean, he hits the throat Aaron Jones in the 605 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 3: Bears game. The other guy I'm really curious to see though, 606 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 3: is Jordan Addison because JJ McCarthy and yes, JJ McCarthy 607 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 3: and Jordan Addison had a lot of chemistry and training 608 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 3: camp and that was a lot of the time where 609 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson was out with the hamstrings, so Addison was 610 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,959 Speaker 3: getting a lot of work, a lot of looks from 611 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: McCarthy is the first read on those plays, and I 612 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 3: think they developed more timing through that than you would 613 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 3: expect that would have otherwise happened if Justin Jefferson is 614 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: in those training camp practices. So JJ McCarthy has not 615 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 3: played with Jordan Addison yet. He hasn't played with a 616 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 3: lot of the offensive linemen either to this point, but 617 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 3: I am very curious to see what that looks like 618 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 3: with Addison. 619 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 4: Is there one thing when JJ, again, presumably JJ McCarthy's 620 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 4: going to start at Ford Field on Sunday. 621 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: I would be very surprised if that's not the case. 622 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 4: Is there one particular thing that you're looking for Okay, 623 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 4: Take two twenty twenty five edition, where it's like, Okay, 624 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 4: you've had the time off and we got the ankle, 625 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 4: we got the injury and all that limited opportunities to 626 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 4: practice all that full week. This week, is there one 627 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 4: thing you're looking for JJ Take two that says, Okay, 628 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 4: that's that's actually that's a graduating factor, a graduating element 629 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 4: of his game that maybe we didn't see through those 630 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 4: limited eight quarter experience early in the season. 631 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll start that conversation with apologies to Guardsy because 632 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring up the footwork Guardsy is very tired 633 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: of the footwork conversation. Yeah, but it it is the 634 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,959 Speaker 3: thing that Kevin O'Connell has stressed quite a bit and 635 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: we've heard a lot about it, And I think that's 636 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 3: instructive because it's something that they're going to be looking 637 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 3: at pretty closely to see did this get better in 638 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: the course of the game. So is he throwing from 639 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: a better base balance and body position, to use the 640 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell phrase. I'm interested to see that. But the 641 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 3: other thing is I'm interested to see how quickly does 642 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: he process things, because we didn't see him get rid 643 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: of the ball terribly quickly. In those two games. I 644 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 3: think his time to throw was over three seconds. He's 645 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: got to work a little faster in some of those 646 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: settings where it can I suppose go either way, because 647 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 3: there's times where he could hold it a click longer 648 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 3: and there's a guy open. But I think generally developing 649 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 3: a little more timing, that little more intuitive feel of 650 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 3: when can I go at the same time that a 651 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 3: play needs to develop and a route needs to develop. 652 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: The timing of playing the position, I think is something 653 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 3: that he needs to improve, and I'll be very curious 654 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: to see if he does a better job of that, 655 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 3: especially with a defense that likes to grab receivers and 656 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 3: the defense that's going to have a pretty good pass rush. 657 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: Hey man, really cool that you came out here when well, 658 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: I mean, we do this every Tuesday. However, I didn't 659 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 2: know there weren't Coordinator press conferences today until tomorrow. So 660 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: I appreciate sure you doing us as solid making that 661 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: drive out. Yeah. Ben Gasoline at Ben Gasoline via x 662 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: Star Tribune, Star Tribune dot com. That's where you can 663 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: find access vikings. The podcast. Ben is a big part 664 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: of news do Nords around the Corner. 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Big appreciation Aaron 691 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 4: Sickmun and company for helping us arrange those special guests. 692 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 2: But in the end, team needs a big time W. 693 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 2: Let's get two points against those Jets tonight. 694 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 4: You're going to get to hear that right here on 695 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 4: your home for Wild Hockey the fan. I didn't stay 696 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 4: up for all eighteen innings. I assume you did not either. 697 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 4: Eighteen freaking innings last night. Took for Game three. Jays 698 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 4: were up two or three when I checked out, Yeah, 699 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 4: and it was four to two in the fourth innings, 700 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 4: so Toronto got the bats moving and then I believe 701 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 4: it was the Dodgers who would then tie it up 702 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 4: and it was back and forth the rest of the way. 703 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 4: Didn't see any runs from the seventh inning on until 704 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 4: I believe it was Freddie Freeman in the bottom of 705 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 4: the eighteenth to get it done. I was texting you though, 706 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 4: I mean, this is again, this is a long boring 707 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 4: conversation about you know, our baseball team and just kind 708 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 4: of stealing the spirit and the love of the game. 709 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 4: This World Series has been fantastic, just thinking shoe Otani 710 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 4: is just gonna muscle this team. He comes alive in 711 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 4: the Brewers series, and it's just it's over. 712 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: If it's not a sweep, it's gonna go five games. 713 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 4: And the Dodgers since losing Game one, have have now 714 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 4: found their way to a two to one lead. But 715 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 4: last night, man, I mean, how game are these guys? 716 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,479 Speaker 4: Whether it was Sureser and Glassen now to start, neither 717 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 4: certainly were unscathed in the affair. But you're seeing Varlin 718 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 4: stretch to an inning and a third. You're seeing guys 719 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 4: come out of nowhere. I mean Clayton Kershaw, I don't 720 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 4: know if he'll pitching his MLB career again, pitched a 721 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 4: third of an inning to get a big out, two outs, 722 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 4: bases loaded. I forget which inning that was in. You're stretching, 723 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 4: will climb to freaking four innings because you run out 724 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 4: of pitchers that you know clearly. And I fell asleep 725 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 4: after Kershaw left the mound and he got out of 726 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 4: that inning clean. 727 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 2: But it was just so much drama last night. 728 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 4: Some defensive plays, Jays are trying to stretch runners to. 729 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 2: Get the extra base. 730 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 4: They got tagged out a couple of times, one time 731 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 4: at home, another time trying to go first to third. 732 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 4: I think it was the second basement Edmund with one 733 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 4: of the defensive plays of the game, and maybe the series, 734 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 4: Like it's just been, it's been a. 735 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 2: Hell of a lot of fun to watch these. 736 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 4: Two teams, despite maybe being in the cornfields and being like, wow, 737 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 4: they got all the money, they got all the players. 738 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: It's been super entertaining. The early stages of the game 739 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 2: had some umpire related controversy and I don't know the 740 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: homeplay umpire's name, but he was I don't know if 741 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 2: he's always like this. He was very slow and deliberate 742 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 2: with some of this ball and strike balls and strikes calls. 743 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 2: Oh I saw that later too. Yeah, so it's a 744 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 2: bobashett is on first base, and I think Dalton varshow 745 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 2: is at the play. Just three and one and okay, 746 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 2: the homeplayed umpire blew a call. There was a fastball 747 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,959 Speaker 2: that Glasnow threw. It was high, it was a ball. 748 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 2: But nevertheless, he's not the first to ring somebody up 749 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 2: on something that's inches away from a strike. The thing is, 750 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 2: it took him like three seconds to go nahm trike 751 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 2: for a strike. Okay, now that would have made it 752 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 2: three two. Bishett and bar show thought because he didn't 753 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 2: say anything, it was a ball. Barshow starts walking to first, 754 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 2: Bischett starts walking to second. It's a ball. So Glas 755 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 2: now gets the ball back from will Smith, the catcher 756 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 2: who's pointing at first, saying throw over there, and they tap. 757 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 2: They touched Bishett, you're out. Now that's the inning that 758 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: Edmund when Steve sacks on it and let a ball 759 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: go underneath his glove and the floodgates started to open 760 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 2: a little bit. So the Jays lose by one in eighteen. 761 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 2: Then this is not indicating they wouldn't have lost. But 762 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 2: if Bishett had to have been more chill and waited 763 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 2: for the exact call and didn't lead first base, then 764 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 2: they ended up scoring like three runs on that inning. 765 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 2: It could have been a lot more. That That was 766 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 2: an early game controversy that I think absolutely plays into 767 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 2: the outcome. Well, it's it's interesting. 768 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 4: I didn't see that part because I was trying to 769 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 4: bounce in on Monday Night football. By the way, it 770 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 4: looks like Chiefs healthy, Chiefs off again. 771 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was. 772 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the Commanders are just free falling right now, 773 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 4: lack of health and just I mean they. 774 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 2: Get McLaurin back, which I guess is good. 775 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 4: But here, guy zach Ertz, though the Guillotine shop was heavy, 776 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 4: I got chopped. 777 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 2: I think you got chopped. Okay, well, you know what, 778 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 2: that may be it for me for fantasy football period. 779 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 2: I lacked so much interest and or desire to play 780 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 2: fantasy football this year, only got in two leagues. The 781 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 2: Guillotine app that we're using is awful, aposcalyptically bad. Okay, 782 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 2: and it's gotten a little better, but it I mean literally, 783 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 2: it's like I got so discouraged trying to research and 784 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 2: follow things on this on this app. Yeah that I'm like, 785 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 2: I'm just I don't I'm not a big fantasy football 786 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 2: guy in the first place, but I'm just like lost 787 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 2: all my desire. No, you know, I don't. I don't 788 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 2: want to get chopped from all my leagues, which I did, 789 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 2: but I forgot to look at arts last night. Now 790 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 2: that that that the app is just dreadful. 791 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 4: It's embarrassingly bad that they Yeah, anyway, just I and 792 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 4: I had aj Brown. I'm looking on the app. I'm 793 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 4: seeing projected points. I had no idea he was gonna 794 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 4: miss the game, so I took an l on that too, 795 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 4: But I didn't take the big chop l. Yeah, at 796 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 4: any rate with that Chiefs looking good. Didn't see the 797 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 4: ump it. He was taking more than a real time second. 798 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 4: I'm noticing in bed last night to call balls and strikes, 799 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 4: specifically the HA for a strike, speaking of local teams 800 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 4: that are potentially in the mix. No strikes here, but 801 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 4: the Wolves lose last night one twenty seven to fourteen 802 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 4: Jamal Murray twenty three of his like forty seven points 803 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 4: in the third quarter, blew by the howl Lakers in 804 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 4: town Wednesday, and potentially. 805 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 2: More on that around the corner as we await the 806 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 2: arrival of Kevin O'Connell, which quite likely will happen five 807 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 2: minutes from now. Hey, here's a nine to noon alert. 808 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell, head coach of the Minnesota Vikings, joins nine 809 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 2: to noon, about five minutes now, turn up your radios, 810 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 2: put them outside, so Billy Johnny Christy Susi, Tamika and Antoine. 811 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 2: They all can run to the radio so they can 812 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 2: hear the audio. They all run to the audio. Kevin 813 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 2: O'Connell joins nine to noon, five minutes from now at 814 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 2: FM one hundred point three kfa M