1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: All right, here we go joining us hurt them on 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: the air today, but I was left wanting more yet 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: again Monday at four o'clock. I want a little more 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: at four with our friend here wee. 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: I don't listen to you often because you're not interesting. 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 3: Millon, how are you pell? What's happening? Boys? I'm will 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: I got a lot. 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: Of great drops of yours, by the way, that was 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: just so bitching, so many good ones. 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: I like the bush one. 11 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 3: You like the bush one? 12 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got you that one. 13 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: I gotta find that. No, I'm not going to delete it. 14 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: You know, I'm leading that. I'm in charge here at hell. Okay, 15 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm in charge. I have the I have the mic, 16 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: you have the con, I have the cod. Well, let's 17 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: talk about yesterday, like we always do. If you from 18 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: thirty five thousand, would you make of the win over Tennessee? 19 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: Well, I think we're just sometimes we're just starved for news. 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: And the fact is that that wasn't a very newsworthy game. 21 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're playing, you know, on on the uh. 22 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: In golf, there's always the easiest hole, the easiest index, 23 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: and you played a short part four not particularly particularly difficult, 24 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: you get a part, you get your par and uh, 25 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: you stayed healthy. That's what you wanted to do. Was 26 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: it the uh Rembrandt artistically? 27 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 4: No? 28 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: But was it sufficient? 29 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: Was yes? 30 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: Did it make you uh excessively nervous at any point? No? 31 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: I think they just handled business and and coming off 32 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 2: that ram loss somewhat predictable, Seahawks have been a very 33 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: good team at hammering inferior opponents. They for the most part, 34 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: were yesterday they allowed a back door cover. Guess what 35 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: if you have a you know, they're eight and three. 36 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: If you what are they on the pace for? Call 37 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: it eleven and six, twelve and five hopefully, uh, you know, 38 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: twelve and five of those twelve wins, you know there's 39 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: going to be two or three. Uh where you know, 40 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: somebody back door covers you. It's no big deal. So 41 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: I just think that they're exactly where they want to be. 42 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: And I think Mike McDonald likes the opportunity, yeah, to 43 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: teach some lessons based on a little bit of a 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 2: lack of focus. Somewhere, some poor bastard Dick blew the 45 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: kid's college fund and Dick's and he was on the 46 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 2: air saying it's not a big deal, A big deal, 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: not a big deal whatever. 48 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was getting divorced, I might go to prison, 49 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: my kids never going to college. 50 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 5: But not a big deal to you, Hugh come oh man, Well, 51 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 5: I mean here it was turning into a rem man. 52 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 5: I mean, it was twenty three to three, and we 53 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 5: thought it's I mean, at some point it could turn 54 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 5: into forty to ten in that game. 55 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: It just didn't. 56 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 5: So how disappointed should we be at all, if at 57 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 5: all about the last twenty minutes of the football game 58 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 5: twenty five minutes of the football game. 59 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: Well, the on the punt return numbers one, nineteen, ninety four, 60 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: and fifty all got out of position, and so you 61 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: know that was kind of I think the blame was divided, 62 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: you know, to give up a ninety yard part return 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: when the Sea uh went into the game, I believe, 64 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: I know when they went in the ram game with 65 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 2: special teams e PA Expected points added were the number 66 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: one special teams group in the in the NFL. So 67 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: so look at if you're going to keep up a 68 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: ninety yard return, don't you want to do it to 69 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: the Titans? Yes, yes, you know, and you know because 70 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: that can that can sharpen you up. I mean, if 71 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: you look at the goal line stand and the intensity 72 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: that the Seahawks defense had against the Rams. That literally, 73 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding you. When I talked about it 74 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: on the radio that Monday, the hair on the back 75 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: of my neck was standing up. And if you compare 76 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: that against when cam Ward was down at the five 77 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: six yard line and he scrambled in for that touchdown, 78 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: the difference is just is startling right. And the sea yesterday, 79 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: the Seaarks were standing tall, no pad level, no intensity, 80 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: no fighting off blocks, and and it was just as 81 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: as desparate as you could possibly have a scenario just 82 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: a week apart, but for all the reasons we know 83 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: were present in the Ram game and in the Titan game. 84 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: And it's just it's just reality. It's not in theory. 85 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: Sure you would have the insane intensity. Yeah, yeah, you 86 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: know that's not how reality plays out. 87 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: Well, humillin's with us. 88 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: I'm talking about Bushes. I don't want it to be 89 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: about Dad. 90 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: I just wanted you to prove to yourself that you 91 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 1: can still have that clip. 92 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: All right, maybe I'll get rid of it. 93 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: That clip was in regards to the plants and by 94 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: the way, just so you people know, Dick and I 95 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: were talking about the red zone offense. 96 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: You know, look, I mean first drive. 97 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: I know it's not red zone, but you get to 98 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: the thirty four, you stall, third drive first and goal 99 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: from the two, and then disaster with the penalties field goal, 100 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: fourth drive first and ten from the thirteen go backwards 101 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: field goal. 102 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: And it's been a little bit of a trend, right. 103 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: What were the numbers Dick that you said you had 104 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: the last two or three games for the red zone. 105 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 5: Three games or twenty fourth for the season, they were eleven. 106 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 5: So ye season been good scoring touchdowns, right, Not in 107 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 5: the last three last three games. There's a little bit 108 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 5: of a mini trend of settling for field goals that 109 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 5: I don't like, and I don't want to see it 110 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 5: to see it continue. 111 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: What's going on there. 112 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. I think that they've been at 113 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: times conservative where you know, they got predictable handing the 114 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: ball off on first down and then you know they're 115 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: facing because because the defenses up, they're facing you know, 116 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 2: second and eight. I think that was a problem. I 117 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: think that they're passing game. They didn't have enough players, 118 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: you know, I think when teams are really smoking in 119 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: the red zone. You have you know, maybe two, possibly 120 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: three players potential touchdowns, and and quarterbacks are taught touchdown checkdown. 121 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: But when I look and I say, wait a minute, 122 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: there's not even anybody. You're passing the ball but there's 123 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 2: nobody in the end zone or maybe there's just one 124 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: and you know they're carrying through that seam. The safety's 125 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: over the top because there's no other threats vertically. So 126 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 2: I think some of the scheme was conservative. At think 127 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 2: the play calling on first down was conservative. And then 128 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: you know, I thought there was some brilliant execution. Man, 129 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: I could talk for ten minutes on that one play 130 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: that Jackson Smith caught in the back of the end zone, 131 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: but he was only a foot out of bounds. I mean, 132 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: you know your balls on the left hash he set 133 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: a flood to the left to get Jackson Smith and 134 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: Jigba on a quarters coverage, you know, to the white 135 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: side of the field. He has a tight split because 136 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: of the hash. He nods out, gets the corner leaning 137 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: because because of the split, you figure, well he's got 138 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: to defend the seven route. What's the seven route? The 139 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 2: corner out the outbreaking round he nods to the seven 140 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 2: back of the end zone. Unbelievable timing by Sam Darnold, 141 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: and literally you're talking about the highest, most exquisite level 142 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: of precision on that play, but you're, you know, eight 143 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: inches out of bounds. So I think, you know, they're close. 144 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: I think that, And then the second half when they 145 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 2: got their touchdown, I think that they are. They're starting 146 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: to get more guys in the back of the end zone. 147 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: I just like opportunities to throw the ball high in 148 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: the back of the end zone or at the shoes, 149 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: you know, shoe laces at the front of the end zone. 150 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: And we saw a little bit more of that. But 151 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: I agree with you, it's got to get better. 152 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: Here. 153 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 5: In the first nine games of the season, Knine had 154 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 5: only eleven catches on twelve targets. He has six catches 155 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 5: on seven targets, including his two longest receptions of the 156 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 5: season in the last two games. Is this a concerted 157 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 5: effort or is this just kind of coincidence that he's 158 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 5: getting open front? 159 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: I hope. So, you know, in all the years, in 160 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: my geeky way of looking at football, I have only 161 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: seen three statistics that have ever been advanced to be 162 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: the highest correlation to winning. One of course is turnovers 163 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: right net turnovers, and another one is yards per passe 164 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: attempt net yards per passe attempt, and then the other 165 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: is net explosive plays. And I would put that actually 166 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: in second place behind turnovers net explosive plays. There's all 167 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: kinds of studies that show that that's that's a high 168 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: correlation to winning. And so to me, when I look 169 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: at okay, Zach Sarbonnat, now he had a nice run 170 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: on that touchdown to get outside. But on the balance, 171 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: what I'm looking at Sarbonnet and Kenneth Walker is that 172 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: they're both essentially equal. In fact, Walker has a scos 173 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: of an advantage in what we would say, just okay, 174 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: what's your batting average in terms of what's called success 175 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: Forty percent of the needed yards on first down, sixty 176 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 2: percent of the needed yards on second down, and all 177 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: the needed yards on third down. That kind of just like, hey, 178 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 2: are you are you? Are you just keeping ahead of 179 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 2: the chains? That that's just you know, in ignoring the potency. 180 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: But then when you say that the explosive rate for 181 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: Knine is so much more you just hand the ball 182 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: and it's like it's just like you know, pulling off 183 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: of a a card, a deck of cards. At some 184 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: point you're gonna draw an ace, you know, just keep 185 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: just keep pulling cards, and he is more like hell, 186 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: he's gonna give you, you know, face cards at a 187 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: far higher rate than anybody else on the team. And 188 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 2: so yes, Dick hand them the ball on the stretch play. 189 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: That's their bread and butter on the running play, and 190 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: speed matters on that play. The stretch getting to the 191 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 2: outside when the defense has to flow faster, there's better 192 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: cutback lanes. It opens when the defense has to flow 193 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: for faster, they it opens up the bootleg around the backside. 194 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I was in Denver with Alex Gibbs, the 195 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 2: godfather of the outside zone. And then and then his 196 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: ability on what's called duo where you where you're you're 197 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: clumping everybody up. It's a strong side run. Everybody's down blocking, 198 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: but if the middle linebacker steps up, you can bounce 199 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: it to the outside. You need speed on that. So 200 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: they're two most favored run schemes. Speed matters throwing him 201 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: to the ball and having him check down and sprint 202 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: up the sideline. Speed matters. Now, I I don't like 203 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: him running out of bounds when a dog on safety 204 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 2: comes out of him. I don't want him finishing that play. 205 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: That's bugging the hell out of me. But he's the 206 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: most explosive guy to me. Get him the damn ball 207 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: in the running game end. 208 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that well you just talked about if you're 209 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: a nitpick. And I would also say, carry the ball 210 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: on the right hand, meaning the proper hand. Too many 211 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: times he's got the ball in the wrong hand. Krist 212 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: and Michael used to do that. Hewitt would drive me 213 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: freaking nuts. And so I'd like to see Kenny Walker 214 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: clean that up a little bit because it's gonna lead 215 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: to a fumble. 216 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: It's gonna piss me off. So let's get the ball 217 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: on the proper hand. 218 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: But look, dude, I'm looking at Jackson Smith and Jigba 219 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: and I gotta be honest with you. Every single week 220 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm assuming Clint Kobiak and Mike McDonald expect the team 221 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: to defend him a certain way. And I don't know 222 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: if it's because of the chess game that they're playing 223 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: that's getting this guy loose every single weekend. 224 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: But this just doesn't stop. It just continues. 225 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: Sixty three yard touchdown, fifty six yard catch and run 226 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: by Jackson Smith and Jigba eight catches a bucks sixty seven. 227 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: He's projected to go over two thousand yards and he's 228 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: got a chance to break Calvin Johnson's record in sixteen games. 229 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 3: When is this gonna stop? Ever? 230 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question. It does concern me because 231 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: eventually one would think that you're gonna hit a roadblock, 232 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: but it hasn't materialized yet. But even you know, things 233 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: like yesterday's okay, he was an outside receiver on on 234 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: plays and they're giving him free access. I don't know 235 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 2: why they don't roll to them. On occasions they did 236 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: roll to them. Hell, there's one time they played cover 237 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: two man on everybody, which is a safety on either half, 238 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: and then and bump and run with everybody. But then 239 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: the guy over JSN he was split to the far left. 240 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 2: He played what's called cloud his zone, and and and 241 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: Jason just comes down a five yard in route. There's 242 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: nobody within ten yards. They bust the coverage. It's like, 243 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: if you're gonna bust the coverage, how are you busting 244 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: on him. There's another time where he on a slant, Well, 245 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: they did roll the coverage to him. So the one 246 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: play that you have that you can it's not the 247 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 2: only play, but one of the plays you can beat 248 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: that double cover rolled on safety over the top. As 249 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: a slant, you start kind of nod to the outside 250 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: break back in. As a quarterback, you're looking and you say, well, 251 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 2: I gotta beat the number two defender. Who's the number 252 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: two defender count outside in ignoring the safety at that 253 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: third level corners number one, the linebackers number two. So 254 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: you're you got to hold in with your eyes. Well, 255 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: you got Cooper Cup coming at this safety and at 256 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: the number two defender. The number two defender is looking 257 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: square at Cooper Cup and and and Darnold literally whistles 258 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: it right by his head and he's looking at Cooper 259 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: Cup inside and it's like, did you guys not get 260 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: the game plan? That number eleven is the guy that 261 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: gets the ball more than ten. So there's stuff that 262 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: I keep seeing this confounding, as I said, the free access. 263 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: But they're doing a hell of a job motioning. They're 264 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: stacking them on releases. You know that sixty three yarder 265 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: they motioned JSN from left to right. He's the number 266 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: three guy, counting outside in and so he has free access. 267 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: It's man to man and the safety outside. So you 268 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 2: get the safety. Note that part of it to the 269 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: safety sitting there thinking, well, I got because there's only 270 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: four man rush, I got a deep safety in the 271 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: middle helping me to the inside. I've got a shallow, 272 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: low hole safety or lurk handle handling and helping me 273 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: to the inside. So I'll just defend the outside stuff. Well, 274 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: now it's a corner, that's an outside breaking route. That's 275 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: on you, dude. But Jsn's ball skills are so elite. 276 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: With the ball deep in the air, those defenders have 277 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 2: a hard time tracking that, turning and locating the ball. 278 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: That's why they play defense. JSN is at the I 279 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: want to say he's as good as I've ever seen. 280 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't say that. I'm probably just you know, 281 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: a victim of the moment. But dog gone is he 282 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: elite and he keeps just finishing on these incredible plays. 283 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 5: Well, how responsible is the quarterback for Jsn's success. What's 284 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 5: Sam doing that Gino didn't do? 285 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: Well? He's throwing the ball down the field and accurate, 286 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: and the catchable rate has gone up, but particularly the 287 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 2: average depth of target. Last year with Gino, you had 288 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: JSN at eight point seven yards per average depth of target. 289 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: That was seventieth out of eighty nine qualifying receivers. Okay, 290 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: seventieth out eighty nine. He goes from eight point seven 291 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: to this year twelve point five. And his catchable air 292 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: yards that's that's not my term, that's in the NFL's 293 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: stat portal catchable air yards. Last year, JSN had eight 294 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: hundred and six for the entire season. This year he 295 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: already has eight eighty, which is obviously number one in 296 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: the NFL. George Pickens is number two at six thirty three, 297 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: some two hundred and fifty yards behind him. So what's 298 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: happening is they you've got a play caller that is 299 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: in a quarterback because it's a joint that decision to 300 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: throw the ball deep. When the play comes into the quarterback, 301 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: it's like, hey, this is our this is shot, this 302 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: is what we want. But the quarterback, it's like, the 303 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: defense is going to tell me where to go right, right, right, 304 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: and so. But so the combination of that they're giving 305 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: him those opportunities and catchable just means in the judgment 306 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: of those doing the film study is that obviously it's 307 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: a catchable ball, so you're getting a real effort to 308 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: push the ball down the field. You've got a quarterback 309 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: who is a sniper right now with his accuracy down 310 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: the field number one in the NFL in the Yardsber 311 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: attempt number one in the NFL in the Yardsbert completion, 312 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: and JSN with his not just elite but like hyper 313 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: elite deep ball skills. All of that is marrying together 314 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: to produce these kind of results. 315 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: Well, Darnold's got a passer rating of one hundred and 316 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: fifty four point four when targeting Jackson, Smith and Jay 317 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: had twenty yards or more down the field. 318 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: That is number one in the NFL. 319 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: This number one in the NFL with receivers with fifteen 320 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: targets or more of twenty yards and the average depth 321 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: is like thirty. This is not yak by the way, 322 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: This is not him catching the ball and then running 323 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: thirty yards after he catches the ball. This is air yards. 324 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: As you've said, all right here, let's get a break. 325 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: I do want to get one more seahawk topic and 326 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: then get your thoughts on Demon Williams UCLA game. Jed Fish, 327 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: how about this up thirty four to seven in the 328 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: fourth quarter is going forward on fourth and goal with 329 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: a guy with a knee brace on, and he talked 330 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: about that today. Why he did that as well. 331 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: We'll do that. 332 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: Get to the Oregon game more at four now at 333 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: four to twenty with Hugh next on ninety three three KJRFM. 334 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: From the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now 335 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 4: back to Softy and Dick on your home for the Huskies, 336 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 4: Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point 337 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 4: three kjr FM. 338 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: We got to roll through this, unless, of course, Hugh Millin, 339 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: you feel like hanging out with us until five o'clock. 340 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: Then we can take all the time we need, baby, 341 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: all right, all the time. We need to get comfortable, 342 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: relaxed a little bit here, really dig into all this stuff. 343 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 2: See you got the hands in ten and two. Man, 344 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: you're driving this operation. 345 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: I think it's a big week. I think it's Oregon 346 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: a week. 347 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: And if there's ever a week that deserves a little 348 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: bit of extra huge time, it's right now. So we'll 349 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: get as many topics soon as we can. But before 350 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: we go to the Huskies and Oregon, let me go 351 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: back to the Seahawks for a second. And look, I 352 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: get it that sometimes recovery times don't go as planned, 353 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: people have setbacks, things like that, whatever, But I get 354 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 1: a little frustrated, Hugh, And you tell me if this 355 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: is a fair frustration that Tory Horton, who's having a 356 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: great year for a rookie, ends up missing two games 357 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: Arizona and LA and then goes on the IR and 358 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: he misses four more games. So what could have been 359 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: a four game absence turns into a six game absence. 360 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: Julian Love misses three games Tampa, Jacksonville and Houston and 361 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: then goes on the IR and he misses or more games. 362 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 1: So it could have been four turns into seven. And 363 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: this is the second time now this has happened with them, 364 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: with Tory Horton. I'm just wondering if there's some breakdown 365 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: somewhere in the process over there that might be able 366 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: to avoid these long absences for these guys. 367 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like a mismanagement of the process. Now, 368 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: you know, you could put the injuries in one of 369 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 2: kind of three buckets. One would be like, hey, he 370 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: he clearly is out, Like we got to put him 371 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: on IR right now. Like like, he's not gonna be ready, 372 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: and then and then you say like, hey, we're fine, 373 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: no Ir, he's gonna be ready to go in a 374 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: week or two. And then but then there's that gray area. 375 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: And then there's a lot of participants in the process. 376 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: The player, obviously, team doctors, the coaches are eager. There's 377 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: the there's the whole uh you know, tough guy mantra 378 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: that that pervades the NFL, and and and you know, 379 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 2: are you hurt or are you injured? That type of thing, 380 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: and so you're sometimes you're just kind of straddling that 381 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: and and different factions have a different take on it, 382 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: and and they just can't arrive at a conclusion. They 383 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 2: think he's gonna be okay, and then they realize, you 384 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: know what, this is not training the way we want. 385 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 2: You try and be anticipatory put him on ir, realizing 386 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: you're gonna need that roster spot. And you don't always 387 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: look back and say, well, we handled that right. We 388 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: should have seen this a couple of weeks ago. Last 389 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 2: thing for me on the Hawks, who all is quiet 390 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 2: on the. 391 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 5: Tarik Woolen front lately, which is a good thing when 392 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 5: you're a cornerback. Is that because he's been playing well 393 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 5: or we just haven't seen any big negative plays like 394 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 5: Pi's are getting torched. 395 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's playing well. Absolutely. If a guy 396 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 2: just you can look if you can't remember Tarik Woollen's 397 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: name getting called, just look at how many plays he played, 398 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: and then that'll tell you how well he played, right, 399 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: Because these are NFL quarterbacks that are you know, they're 400 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: trained to find the pigeon. Not to say that they 401 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: always do, but that's what they're paid to do. And 402 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: if they're not finding opportunities against Woo or anybody else, 403 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: you can make an inference that the guy's covering pretty well. 404 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, Oregon Week Saturday. 405 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 3: To steal a line from the. 406 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: Garage, when I say Oregon Week, what does that. 407 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 4: Mean to you? 408 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: I will just tell you you know what. 409 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: I'm talking about. Don't you just like him? 410 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: I just turned sixty two, if you would, if you 411 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 2: had like an instrument that could measure there's no kind 412 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 2: of hate and sports hate like I've had in my 413 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 2: life for the Oregon Ducks. I mean, you know, my 414 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: kid isn't playing there anymore, so I just I can 415 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: just remember, you know, the last time I assaulted anybody 416 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 2: as an adult was in the Eugene airport. Wow, because 417 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 2: you know an Oregon fan, you know, he apparently couldn't 418 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: realize that if you're going to go up to a 419 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 2: guy and get in a guy who's six foot five 420 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: and two and thirty pounds and get in his face, 421 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: better make sure he's not in an horrible mood. And 422 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: so that got miscalculates did Yeah? 423 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: Okay, not the finest moment, but. 424 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah they that That's that's what duck hate reduced 425 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 2: me to. 426 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, is this team elite? 427 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: Should have spent the night in that we're in the 428 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: Eugene jail. 429 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: But how was this person that you assaulted by? 430 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: That was back when I was young enough it didn't matter. 431 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha? Gotcha? 432 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 5: Uh, talk to me about this Oregon team, Hugh is 433 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 5: are they elite good or are they just kinda good 434 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 5: good like Michigan good from what you've seen from a Missigan. 435 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they're elite good. You know you 436 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 2: saw I watched every play of the Indiana game and 437 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: I was surprised at how dominant I mean Indiana. Now, 438 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: Signetty has a much different personality than Don James, just 439 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: his you know, just his comportment. But the way his 440 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: teams are on the field. Indiana in that game reminded 441 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 2: me of of Don James teams in the in the 442 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: in the good years, where where it was just like 443 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: a defense that plays together, plays nasty, fights you on 444 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: every freaking blade of grass. You know, don't beat themselves. 445 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: You know, just a toughness and a spirit to them. 446 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: And so I really admired that. And they just took 447 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: Dante More just completely out of his game. 448 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 3: I mean, it made him. 449 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: Look like a JV quarterback. 450 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 3: I couldn't, you know. 451 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: The Indiana just bootstomped them. So I don't know, Dick, 452 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 2: what they are. They obviously look good offensively against sc 453 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: That that touchdown passed on the seam route to that 454 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 2: tight end eighteen for Oregon. Man, that guy has NFL 455 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: stamped all over his body. That was a that as 456 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: good a throw as I've seen a long time in 457 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: college football. So I think there's some hot and cold 458 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: there with their quarterback and with their team. But we 459 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 2: know they have a relatively high ceiling and let's hope 460 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: they don't reach it Saturday. 461 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: Well, Demon Williams. I think we all agree it has 462 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: got to be a star for them to pull this 463 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: thing off. You know, I kind of felt like everything 464 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: started moving for you, dub on that draw a touchdown 465 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: for Demon once Jed kind of unleashed his legs a. 466 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 3: Little bit more. 467 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I've been maybe slightly disappointed with 468 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: how much of that part of his game we've seen 469 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: this year. I know he's on pace to put up 470 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: some pretty good numbers rushing wise, but I just feel 471 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: like there's more meat on the bones. So for Demon 472 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: Williams to take the next step. Last time we saw 473 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: DeMont Williams play against Oregon, his numbers looked okay because 474 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: most of it came when they were getting crushed in 475 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. He also got sacked ten times in 476 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: that game, by the way, So what's the next step 477 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: for Deman? You think here, well. 478 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 2: And looking at Demon bear with me, because I think 479 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 2: there's a point to be made here. So what I 480 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 2: did is I took off the power forward teams in 481 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 2: conference play only because I don't care how you did 482 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: against UC Davis or Central Michigan or Chattanooga State. So 483 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: what I'm about to say involves all Power four teams 484 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: in conference play only, and then they say, okay, ranking 485 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: them defensively by points allowed. So Washington, in their eight 486 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: games in the conference, they've played three teams that are 487 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: in the top thirty Ohio State, Michigan, and then Wisconsin's 488 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: twenty eighth, So that puts them in the top thirty defensively. Right. 489 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: The other five, Now this is sixty seven teams. Okay, 490 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: so top thirty out of sixty seven. The other five 491 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: they're below fifty out of sixty seven Illinois, Maryland, Purdue, 492 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: UCLA records. So I look, and I say, so we'll 493 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 2: just call those the easy teams and the difficult teams 494 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: based on that, correct And then I took the stats, 495 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: the thirty five forty stats, and I ran the correlation 496 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: to winning from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty five. 497 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: So we have a three and a half few almost 498 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: four year sample, so there's no outliers that diffuse. And 499 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: what is the number one now correlation? Just as a reminder, 500 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: we all know this correlation would be like our spent 501 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 2: studying the night before your midterm should correlate positively with 502 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: your mid term scores? Are beers? Drunk the night before 503 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 2: your mid time would have a negative correlation, one would think, right, 504 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: so we get that. So there. The highest correlation of 505 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: all the stats is this new stat, new analytics EPA 506 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: Expected points average. I'm not going to go into it. 507 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: Google it. There's a lot of stories, Okay, EPA per dropback. 508 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 2: The important part of that is it includes scrambles on 509 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: that play. Okay, so it's not just per attempt. So 510 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: against the easy teams the five that I mentioned, demand 511 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 2: has a point five zero EPA per play. That is 512 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 2: number one in all of power for that's that is 513 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: seventy nine qualifying quarterbacks. He's number one. But against the 514 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: top thirty. Now this is all the other quarterbacks against 515 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: the top thirty two. This is not cherry picking. There's 516 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 2: all quarterbacks in the top thirty. Demand falls to negative 517 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 2: point two. 518 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 3: Toy one. 519 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 2: He has a point a point seven one drop He 520 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: goes from first to sixty sixth with a. EPA has 521 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 2: the highest correlation of any stat, six forty two. Passive 522 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 2: pass efficiency also called passer rating. I'll give you one more. 523 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: That is the second highest correlating stat. So we know 524 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 2: it means something six to twenty five it's an old relic. 525 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: EPA is new. Pass efficiency is old, but it has 526 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: a six to twenty five demon Williams against the the 527 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: not top thirty teams, he has one hundred and eighty 528 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 2: point five pass efficiency, that's number one of all Power 529 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: four quarterbacks. But his passer rating against top thirty is 530 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: one hundred and twelve point four. That's fifty five. So 531 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: in both of those categories, demand Williams is both number 532 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: one against the not top thirty and he has literally 533 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 2: the biggest drop of any quarterback in all Power forward. 534 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 2: Now he's only nineteen ten, eight years old. He's breathtakingly talented. 535 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: I envy his talent. So there's a lot of room 536 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: for this guy to improve. We get it. But if 537 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: we're talking about what he needs to do, and here's 538 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 2: the final point on this. I mentioned the correlation, you know, 539 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: yards per tempt as a correlation five ninety nine total 540 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: yards per game for sixty four, they're dropping right. Scrambles. 541 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 2: Here's the thing everybody's gonna talk about his scrambles. Scrambles 542 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: has only a point one two eight correlation to winning, 543 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 2: and in fact, against the top thirty defenses, it has 544 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 2: a negative point h two to two. It's basically nothing 545 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: of a slightly negative scramble yards point zero four to one. 546 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: So scrambling, because here's what happened. When he scrambled against 547 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: Ohio State six scrambles for twenty yards, it's barely more 548 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: than three yards per scramble against Michigan two for ten yards. 549 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 2: When you go against these really talented teams, they have 550 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: a plan to corral you on the scrambles and they 551 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 2: have the athletes. So what what what's the takeaway? De 552 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: Mon Williams. He's got he got his up as game 553 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 2: against the top teams. He's gonna get his opportunity this Saturday. 554 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: And yes, the scrambles and by the way, design runs 555 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: Ohio State one for thirteen yards Michigan one for five yards. 556 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 2: They took a lot of stuff away. So yes, he's 557 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 2: gonna have to use his leg He's never gonna not 558 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 2: use his legs because his legs are beauty, right right, 559 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: But he's still he's gonna have to make the plays 560 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: from the pocket, and he's gonna have to do with anticipation. Okay, 561 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: he's gonna have to sharp with. 562 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: I gotta cut you off because we're gonna come back 563 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: and do one more segment. All right, so okay, stand by, 564 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 1: we'll come back and wrap it up with Hugh before 565 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: Panthers Niners on ninety three three KJR FM. 566 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 4: From the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now 567 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 4: back to SOFTI and Dick on your Home for the Huskies, 568 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 4: Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point 569 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 4: three kjr FL. 570 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: Let's get into what we got football coming up. A 571 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: few more minutes left with humling a little more. At four, 572 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: we do an hour long version because it's Oregon week. 573 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: If they're playing Uh Davis, we would have let the 574 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: guy go an hour ago, man, but it's Oregon, So 575 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: what the hell? 576 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: Hey, Hugh, let me ask you this. 577 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: Jonah Coleman comes in thirty four to seven, twelve fifty 578 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: three to go, and they run four straight run plays, 579 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: fourth and goal from the one. I asked Jed about 580 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: that today. He said, look, man, you know I wanted 581 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: Jonah to score. I'm not going to shut down the offense. 582 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of Buddy Ryan against the Cowboys. 583 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: You know, we like practicing scoring touchdowns, remember that back 584 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: in the eighties. 585 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, two, I got a story about that another Well, 586 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: you know. 587 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: What, the the the term shut it down doesn't seem 588 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: to exist in Jedfish's vocabulary. We saw it against Wazoo, 589 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: we saw it against UCLA. So my question to you, 590 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: with that big knee brace, can Jonah Coleman be one 591 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: hundred percent against Oregon? How much can we expect at 592 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: a number one on Saturday with that bumne Man? 593 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? Not to my eye, And I think that was 594 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: a little bit misguided. I think it's well intentioned to 595 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: Troy and get him some individual athlete accolades obviously get 596 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: in the end zone. But watching that pile up and 597 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: the stress that was likely his knee was enduring, Yeah, 598 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: I didn't love that. So obviously love to have Coleman 599 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: at his best with that knee brace. I don't know. 600 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: I always I kind of have a prejudice against running 601 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: backs with knee braces because I just assume if they're 602 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: wearing a knee brace, they're less than one hundred percent 603 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: and there's no position. You know, well, that's not true. 604 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: Cornerbacks would need to have their knees, but certainly running 605 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: backs that's vital the knee, and so I think I 606 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: don't know how much less than one hundred percent is 607 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: he going to be, But if he's wearing a knee brace, 608 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna assume it's something. 609 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 5: Got it here from one Fish decision to another. Your 610 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 5: take on Jed honoring Jacob and news wishes to play 611 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 5: near his hometown for his last game of the regular 612 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 5: season before he burns the red shirt instead of doing 613 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 5: what I mean, I think a lot of Husky fans 614 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 5: would say what's best for the program and saving him 615 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 5: for the Oregon game. 616 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that there's some team building aspects to 617 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: a decision like that. I think that the team is 618 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: always number one, But I think Jed has made it clear, Hey, 619 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try and within our team structure, trying to 620 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: accommodate you guys, try and get you guys stats that 621 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: give you accolades and trophies in postseason and getting drafted 622 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 2: and all of those things. And so that was just 623 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: a manifestation of it in a way that you know, 624 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: you raise a very good point, Dick that against Oregon, 625 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: that that seems like that would have been more needed 626 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: by the team. But yeah, you know, I think that 627 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: on some level it's going to be appreciated in that 628 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 2: locker room. 629 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. 630 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, do you think kind of guys 631 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: that Jed Fish now more than ever is trying to 632 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: make sure that these great players play for him wherever 633 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: he goes, whether it's you, Dub, or whether he's coaching 634 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: a different team, Hugh, that those guys are with him 635 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: no matter where he is. 636 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: Well, he can use that on his example list of Hey, 637 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: this is how yes, I'll I'll never put your needs, 638 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 2: you know, overtly above the team, but but where they 639 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:11,719 Speaker 2: can exist somewhat alongside and you know, maybe diagonally below 640 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: the needs of the team. If that makes any sense 641 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: that visual, Uh, then then I think that Jed's going 642 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: to you know, look for ways to accommodate the team 643 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 2: and then at the players and then and then that's 644 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: gonna benefit with recruiting and all the rest. 645 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: I just hope we're not watching the game Saturday and 646 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: Noah Winnington is going right up the gut and we're 647 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: looking at each other going, God, it'd be great to 648 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: have Jacob Maneu out there right now playing linebacker, right 649 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: so we'll see, all right, hey, Hugh, great stuff, man ever, 650 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: have a good turkey day Thursday, and we're talking about 651 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: all right, see you about it? 652 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 3: Okay, are you miiling it with us? We'll get a break. 653 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: We got Panthers, we got San Francisco, we got another 654 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: big day tomorrow, Husky Hanks at four. We got three 655 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: pairs of tickets for the UW Oregon game to give 656 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: away tomorrow on the Husky Honks Show. 657 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 3: So we go get that done. 658 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Paul Allen, the voice of the Vikings, 659 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: John will Owner will join us on the air. 660 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 3: A lot going on tomorrow and Wednesday. 661 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: Will cram it all into Wednesday again because we're off 662 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: on Thursday and Friday,