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Speaker 1: Let's say good morning now too the founder of Lady Freethinker,

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Speaker 1: Nina Jackal.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Nina, good morning, Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: having me, well.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 1: This is National Justice for Animals Week, so we wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk with Nina to find out about Unfortunately, this

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Speaker 1: makes me so mad, the growing problem of animal abandonment

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Speaker 1: in La Nina, can you tell us about the problem

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Speaker 1: and why it's getting worse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, unfortunately we're in this sort of perfect storm

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Speaker 2: right now in Los Angeles, and over the past couple

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Speaker 2: of years we've seen just a surge in pet overpopulation

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Speaker 2: and abandonment. And this is because of a few reasons.

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Speaker 2: We have the high cost of living compounded with a

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Speaker 2: severe housing crisis. It's just hard for a lot of

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Speaker 2: people to cover the food and vet bills and sometimes

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Speaker 2: even housing that animals need. We're still dealing with a

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Speaker 2: pandemic pet aftermask where people who were suddenly at home

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Speaker 2: all the time time, you know, wanted to get these

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Speaker 2: fuzzy companions and then had to go back into work

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Speaker 2: in person and decided they could no longer care for them.

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Speaker 2: And compounding all this, we have this backlog of Spain

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Speaker 2: neuter so there are just more animals breeding and the

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Speaker 2: shelters are overflowing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and your group is you know, trying to expose

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Speaker 1: this get the word out about it. How are you

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Speaker 1: letting people know about this problem?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, So there are a few ways, you know,

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Speaker 2: we work to expose the cruelty of puppy mills because sadly,

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Speaker 2: people are still buying animals from breeders while there are

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Speaker 2: others languishing and dying in shelters. We're encouraging people to

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Speaker 2: please adopt, don't shop. Every time you go to that

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Speaker 2: shelter to get your next dog or cat, you really

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Speaker 2: are saving a life. And we also work to sponsor

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Speaker 2: Spain neuter programs to help people who otherwise can't afford

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Speaker 2: them have their animals sterilized.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I want to mention you mentioned puppy mills, and

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people who want that purebread

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Speaker 1: dog and so. But I've also been to Pasadena Humane

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Speaker 1: because we work with them pretty closely several times. And

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Speaker 1: you see, it doesn't have papers, but like they have,

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Speaker 1: it looks like a purebread husky, It looks like a

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Speaker 1: purebread boxer, It looks like a purebread Labrador retriever. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they have beautiful, beautiful animals there, and I think people

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Speaker 1: just they get obsessed with having the papers.

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Speaker 2: M m, yeah, absolutely. I mean there are purebreads at

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Speaker 2: the shelters. I mean, you can get nearly any type

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Speaker 2: of animal that you'd wish at the shelter or from

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Speaker 2: a rescue organization. There's so many options for adopting an

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Speaker 2: animal that don't involve supporting the breeding industry.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and here's something else I wanted to ask you about, Nina.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if you.

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Speaker 1: Know this, but because of the work you do, maybe

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Speaker 1: you have some insight into it. But we'll close stribery traffic.

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Speaker 1: I was talking about a week doesn't go by when

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Speaker 1: we don't have a story in the traffic about somebody

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Speaker 1: who's just dumped a box of puppies on the road,

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Speaker 1: and it seems like it's so heartbreaking, and it seems

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Speaker 1: like it's happening more like people literally instead of going

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Speaker 1: and dropping in for the shelter, where the shelter could

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Speaker 1: take them in and take care of them, they just

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Speaker 1: literally dump them. Is I mean, like, what's gotten on?

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Speaker 1: What's going on in our brain? Does it we allow

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Speaker 1: us to do that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, and it's especially heartbreaking when it happens

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Speaker 2: in these deep freezes or in intense heat, and sometimes

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Speaker 2: these animals die, you know, when they're just dumped in

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Speaker 2: a box somewhere or just by the side of the road.

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Speaker 2: I don't have the statistics, but I agree that it

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Speaker 2: seems like it's happening more than it used to. And

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Speaker 2: it can be really hard to find the people who

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Speaker 2: dumped them. So you know, of course it is illegal

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Speaker 2: to do that in California, but it's also hard to prosecute.

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Speaker 2: But it's not needed. You can take an animal to

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Speaker 2: a shelter, you can take an animal to rescue organization,

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Speaker 2: and you know nobody is gonna come after you. It's

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Speaker 2: the right thing to do.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And instead of just finding out about it, we

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Speaker 1: want to know what we can do about it. So

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Speaker 1: are there can people get involved with your organization? Is

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Speaker 1: there things to do? How do we make this better? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean, please visit our website Ladyfreethinker dot org and

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Speaker 2: sign up for our newsletter. We send regular news We

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Speaker 2: send actions, plenty of petitions that people can find to,

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Speaker 2: you know, to make a difference, just in a few seconds.

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Speaker 2: And you know, our number one goal is really to

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Speaker 2: raise awareness, so you can find a wealth of information

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Speaker 2: on this and other animal issues on our website.

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Speaker 3: Okay, lady freethinker, and that's.

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Speaker 2: A dot org, right, dot org. That's right. We are

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Speaker 2: a nonprofit.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Is this you know, I just think, like you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: bringing awareness to it, maybe that starts. Maybe that starts something.

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Speaker 1: And if you've got somebody who's listening and they think

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Speaker 1: they're out of options and just have to dump a dog,

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Speaker 1: maybe they'll rethink it. Or I just breaks my heart,

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Speaker 1: breaks my heart, Nina.

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Speaker 2: I mine too, mine too, And your awareness really is everything.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, share, tell your friends, all right.

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Speaker 1: And it is National Justice for Animals Week. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much, Nina Jacko, appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all right,