1 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: There's nothing more obnoxious than Kevin Falness's hall monitor tweeting 2 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: out respect the clock, Respect the clock. We're close enough. 3 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: It's three minutes past five on the pre show text 4 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: or tweet I send out, I said, Russo Radio five 5 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: oh two, so we're two minutes late. Russo sue me. 6 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry? What is with Falness Man? 7 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: Especially because this guy starts pregame shows like the other 8 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: day it was a Wild Wild game and the pregame 9 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: show start right at the time of the game, Like, 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: what's he doing? 11 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing. And here's the thing, 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: this is going to be an interesting litmus test for 13 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: Fallness because if things go according to what obviously Wild 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: fans want and the team wants, this is going to 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: be a deep run through the playoffsing ourselves and he, 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: by all accounts, is he up to it? Because that 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: means a lot of pregame shows and a lot of 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: postgame shows, and I'm I guess I'm questioning whether he 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: really is up to that challenge because that's gonna be 20 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: doing a lot of shows that, guess what, he's not 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: experienced in doing. Because of the range track record, you 22 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: got no idea how he has to, you know, basically 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: be up every night maybe for two solid months with 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: this stuff. Is he ready for that? Do you think? Yeah? 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: This especially once the eight thirty am start, he said, 26 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: he's back here and we're on the road and he's 27 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: gonna have to be Oh my good driving home at 28 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: one am, two am, kind of like thea. 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: Writer at night. 30 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: We we we blamed it on Brett though, like we 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: think guards he would have had you out on time, 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: and Brett didn't let you know, So he blamed it 33 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: on Brett. 34 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: Well, by the way, I already I do have a 35 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: gripe with you. Sure, go ahead, Like, are you a 36 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: Seinfeld guy? I'm I'm a How do I explain this? 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: I would I would liken it to Springsteen. I have 38 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: great respect for Springsteen as an artist. I've I've gone 39 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: to see him in concert, but I'm not religious about him. Similarly, 40 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: I have respect for Seinfeld. I've chuckled it some of it, 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: but I'm not as religious about it as I'm supposed 42 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: to be. Okay, so I was. 43 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: I would say that I'm a huge, huge SEIGENTISTKA the 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: TV show right, the TV show and one of the 45 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: great I was listening to your interview with Andy Lueger, 46 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: and he was talking about H Bagels. And one of 47 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: the great episodes of Seinfeld ever was the H and 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: H Bagel episode. That one is what introduced us to Festivus, 49 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: That's true. That is the one where Kramber went back 50 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: to work at H Bagels and wound up going on 51 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: strike and and all that stuff. And so when he 52 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: talked about H and H Bagels, I was just on 53 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: a boat. Yeah, I was just down in Bokratone. I 54 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: had no idea that H and H has has like 55 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: stores all over the country now, not even just in 56 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: New York City. So I actually went H and H 57 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: Bagels there and had an H and H for the 58 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: first time in a long time. I did no idea 59 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: they delivered. Are they as good as advertised? Are they 60 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: as good as Luger suggests? The ones in New York definitely? 61 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: The one I would say in Boco is a knockoff. 62 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 2: I think it has to do like the New York 63 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: City water is essentially like you know, I could wait. 64 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: The other thing I heard you guys talking about was. 65 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: Pickles, and I am a pickle fanatic, and especially half 66 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: sour pickles, and they are there. You can't get them 67 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 2: anywhere like New York City. Even Cecils here, which is phenomenal, 68 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: and they sell half sour pickles. 69 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: They're definitely not as good. I used to be a 70 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: big pickles guy. I'm not as much anymore. But I 71 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: loved the hour with him because generally it tends to 72 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 1: be pretty heavy with him, and I like just going 73 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: to like fifty thousand different directions that it was a 74 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: lot of fun. 75 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: Actually, I do not like tongue, though I can't. My 76 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: grandfather used to have. We used to go to Ben's 77 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: Deli all the time, which if Andy Luger is listening, 78 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: he probably knows what Ben's Deli is. We used to 79 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: go in Roslyn, New York, I think to even Manhacid 80 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: and my grandfather used to get tongue sandwiches. 81 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I could not even imagine what I'm 82 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: with you. I'll hundred percent on that for sure. All right, 83 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: let's get to some puck talk. So the team has 84 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: this unusual situation from a call a scheduling, qirk whatever, 85 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: where they have what four days off fairly late here 86 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: in the season. I think it was four three or four. 87 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: So going into that break mini break. Clearly there were 88 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: our concerns, right, it's all right, what are we doing here? 89 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: Do we have to get into some better rhythm at 90 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: this point even though we know we're kind of stuck 91 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: from a playoff standpoint, And so I was very curious 92 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: to know how the team would approach this. Would this 93 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: be We're gonna do a mini training camp, We're gonna 94 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: break everything down, get real fundamental and elementary because we 95 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: have this extra time to do it, or is it 96 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: more get out of here. We're not gonna do any 97 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: extra work. That's overthinking it more than anything else. We 98 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: just need to freshen our minds. What has the while 99 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: management approach beIN in this regard regarding these days off? 100 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: Okay, full disclosure, I missed the last two practices because 101 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: I was in Denver, But I have been reading my 102 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: trustee colleague over at the Athletic, Joe Smith, and just 103 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: you know, listening and watching the the interviews and things 104 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: like that, and you know, I think they had four 105 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 2: days off. They took the first two to completely rest 106 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: shut down some tired bodies, which is the way I 107 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: think a lot of coaches would have handled this. 108 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: And then the last two days. 109 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: Not only did they do a lot of things that 110 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: they want to make automatic in their game, but they 111 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: did a lot of small, small area games and things 112 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 2: like that, which is to sort of simulate quick decisions, 113 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: battle level compete and things like that to sort of 114 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: get ready for the stretch run here. I think the 115 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: four days off are going to be tremendous for this team. 116 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: There's a lot of teams right now that are playing really, 117 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: really tired. The only two teams in the league that 118 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: had this type of break are Utah in Minnesota. You 119 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: write it's an anomaly in the in the in the schedule, 120 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: but I just think that this is this came at 121 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: a really good time because obviously there was starting to 122 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: be negativity that creep crept into the game. 123 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: You know. 124 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,559 Speaker 2: The one thing I will say, and I was talking 125 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: to Chris McFarland about this, the GM of the Colorado 126 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: Avalanche while I was in Denver, and Colorado is going 127 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: through a tough time, Dallas is going through a tough time, 128 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: and Minnesota is going through a tough time right now, 129 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,119 Speaker 2: and it just feels like these three teams for three 130 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: months have known where they're finishing in the standings. Who 131 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: they're going to probably play in the playoffs, obviously more 132 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: so Dallas and Minnesota than Colorado, because that changes on 133 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: an every gate, everyday basis with whoever's. 134 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: Going to land that eighth seed. 135 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: And it just seems like we just pay attention to 136 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: the Wild struggling, but the reality is those teams are 137 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: struggling very much as well. And the other issue that 138 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: those teams are having, especially Dallas is get they are 139 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 2: really hurt at the wrong time of year. So Minnesota 140 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: at a very least is pretty healthy right now. All 141 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: their guys are available to them, and I think that 142 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: this is probably a product of just, you know, it's 143 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: kind of twofold. These players don't want to get hurt 144 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: and so they don't have juice in these games. But 145 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: they also don't have the juice in these games because 146 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: they know these games are basically exhibitions for the season, 147 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: for the postseason. The problem is is that you don't 148 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: want bad habits to creep up in their game, and 149 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: that's what I think John Hines and Bill gern are 150 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: getting a little bit frustrated by and are trying to 151 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: sort of nip in the butt. 152 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: Russo Radio, if you have questions or observations for him 153 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: hit the bratsh on Brian Caffean text line at six 154 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: four six eighty six. Right now, we're getting a lot 155 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: of pickles related texts, including Ben from Roseville who rides 156 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: boar's head whole dill pickles are fantastic. I don't have 157 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: great experience there, but I'm a big boarshead guy. My 158 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: guess is h way. 159 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: Remember when I when I got all those candles sent 160 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: to the office. This is what's next coming for you 161 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: is just a bunch of pickles. 162 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: I would prefer more boar's head meat and bagels would 163 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: be fine too. Uh. Yeah, Like I said, I got 164 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: a dozen of the of these world class bagels I 165 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: get to bring home and try out. Yeah, I like 166 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: boys had lunch meat, but the lunch meat I like, 167 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: Luger scoffs at because it's things like, you know, like 168 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: chicken breast or boiled ham. And he just, I mean, 169 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: he just, I mean he he basically looked at me 170 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: and said, what's wrong with you? Yeah. 171 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: So that's the other good thing about that conversation is 172 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: he was so worked up, obviously about about the bagel thing, 173 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden he's going to order 174 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: you a bunch of really nice meats. 175 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's okay. Although if he orders tongue though, 176 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I have it in me like you 177 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: ASTROMI that I would, that absolutely would would. Indeed, consider 178 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: I got to meet Andy. I think that he and 179 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: I are much more alike, you know, both from New York, 180 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. So that's quite everything. That 181 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: was a very entertaining conversation. Lest for that way, I 182 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: enjoyed it, yeah, because like I said, it wasn't quite 183 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: as heavy. I mean, we ended up deviating into a 184 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: discussion about this whether the state of Israel is allowed 185 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: to exist, which is not light. You know, that's a 186 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: pretty heavy subject as well. Interested in that one too, 187 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: That's very true. So let me ask you the leash 188 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: question that I got into this with Louis because I 189 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: asked him flat out, okay, playoffs starting, is it gust 190 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: Buss or is it the kid? And he said, what's 191 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: gus Buss? But he said, the better question is how 192 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: long is the leash going to be this time? And 193 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: I agree, to me, that's what fascinates me the most 194 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: here is we get closer because the leash, I think 195 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: it is tending to be a little bit long. So 196 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: what do you think on that? Well, how do you 197 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: do you have any sense of how long the leash 198 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: is going to be assuming we all assume it's going 199 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: to be Gus bussing game one. 200 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the one thing I will say to 201 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: answer to not answer the question at first, is is 202 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: gust has performed really well for the Wild in the playoffs. 203 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: So you know, if you actually look at the way 204 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: that he's played, none of their losses have had to 205 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 2: do with him. Both last year in the Vegas series, 206 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: even in the Dallas series, you know the PK. Could 207 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: he have been better on, absolutely, But I think that 208 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: the PK as a hold in that Dallas series a 209 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: couple of years back was the bigger issue in terms 210 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: of the leash question. I think that the one thing 211 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: that earlier in the season really showed when John Hines 212 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: was going with essentially a strict rotation, is that there 213 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: is a lot of trust in Volstet and if he 214 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: plays really well down the stretch, they've got to be 215 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 2: smart with their goaltending decisions, and I think this organization 216 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: hasn't been very smart with their with their goaltending decisions. 217 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: You know, dating back to when Marc Andre Fleury inexplicably 218 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: started Game two of the Dallas series, they were just 219 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: messing around. This is coming off a fifty win, fifty 220 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: save win by Gustulsen in Game one, and I don't 221 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: think there's a team in the league that would have 222 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: not started gust in Game two. And you know, I 223 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: just think that even going back to the year that 224 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: Can Talbot was on fire down the stretch and then 225 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: they acquire Mark Andrey Flury and next thing you know, 226 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: Flurry is starting the playoffs against Saint Louis. 227 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: So they have this. 228 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: Now that wasn't John Hines, but this traditionally, the last 229 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: couple of years, it hasn't been the smart moves here. 230 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: So I do think that they've got to be really 231 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: smart and just understand that if Gus is playing really well, 232 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: you got to ride him, and if he's not, then 233 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: you got to be quick to maybe make a move 234 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: for Jasper and hopefully that that ignites the team. The 235 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: one thing about this team that's different than a lot 236 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: of them going into the playoffs is their amount of depth. 237 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: Like right now tonight, technically the lineup that they're throwing out. 238 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: There could be their Game one lineup, but we both 239 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: know that the second there's a loss, all of a sudden, 240 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 2: there could be a Nico Sterm put in or a 241 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: Nick Fellino put in, or if Nick Felino does start 242 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: Game one and Danella Euroff is out of the lineup, 243 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: that eurof is clearly available to play. So I do 244 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: think they have a lot of pieces that they could 245 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: that they could play in the playoffs, But when it 246 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: comes to goaltending, I don't think you can go with 247 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: a straight rotation. Even Jasper, when I asked him that 248 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: question today, didn't didn't seem to think that smart. You 249 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: know that you ride the hot hand in the playoffs, 250 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: and I think as long as Gus is good that 251 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: he But I think they start with Gus. I just 252 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: think they start with the veteran full circle. 253 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: You ride after Quinn, Who's blockbuster, Rossie William Ogrin return 254 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: to Minnesota. What do we need to know about that? 255 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was out in Denver the last couple of days. 256 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: I was out there actually for a conferences. So this 257 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: really was happenstance that I was able to instead of 258 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: get these guys on the phone and go over to 259 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: their hotel on Tuesday and sit down with all three 260 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 2: of the guys, and you know, I think the majority 261 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: of them, well I'm not the majority. All three get 262 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: why Bill Garon made this decision as much as of 263 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: a shock as it came to at least two of them. 264 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: You know, I think Rossie expected at some point he 265 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: was probably gonna be moved, But boyam was so professional 266 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: and so mature about it. When I talked to him, 267 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: like he he basically said, I get it, Like they 268 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: don't have the time this organization. I'm paraphrasing, they're in 269 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: a win now mode. They want to win a cup 270 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: and they don't have the time to wait for me 271 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: to essentially become Quinn Hughes. They had to go get 272 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: Quinn Hughes. And he gets it, and that he basically 273 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 2: the quote in the story is he can't be disappointed 274 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: when you're traded for Quinn Hughes. I think Liam felt 275 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: the same thing. I think he's really appreciative to what 276 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: the Wild did for him, the opportunities they gave him, 277 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: and understands why it happened. Rossi is very appreciative and 278 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: grateful to the Wild, especially for what they did for him, 279 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: the year that they diagnosed him with the mile card 280 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: card ideas, and especially the way that Bill Garin treated 281 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: him throughout the time. But I do think the last 282 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: couple of years, he knows the trade rumors that no 283 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: matter what he did, it just felt like they weren't 284 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: trying to move him. And you know that he didn't 285 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: feel the energy when they tried to re sign him 286 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: last summer, and then even when they he agreed to 287 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,599 Speaker 2: the three years, five million dollars a year deal, he 288 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: knew it was an extremely tradable contract and he felt, 289 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: he said, disrespected when they when after a really good 290 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: regular season they put him on the fourth line almost 291 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: preemptively going into that playoffs and and and that was 292 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I really think that was a premeditated thing. 293 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: I felt a coming. 294 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: I remember talking about it on the R podcasts coming 295 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: before that that it just felt like Rossi was sort 296 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: of going to be the first move and they dropped 297 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: him the fourth line, and he felt like he was 298 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: disrespected and told him that. But I do think that 299 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 2: he is not holding grudge. I think that they're excited 300 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: to be back here tonight. Wish they had a night 301 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 2: off that where they could have seen their old teammates. 302 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: But I think that in an arena, you know that 303 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: that they had a lot of really good moments, and 304 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a really cool night. And 305 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: the other thing that I know all three were real 306 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: appreciative of because they talked to me about it, and 307 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: and I know Brock Bessard is gonna probably feel that 308 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: way tonight too, is that you know, they're gonna be 309 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: honoring Jesse Pierce with the moment of silence before the game. 310 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: And obviously all four of them have, you know, knew 311 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: her and had great relationships with her. One of the 312 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: first things at ROSSI and and and Ogrin brought up 313 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: to me was Jesse h when I sat down with 314 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: them the other day. So I think that they're going 315 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: to be really pleased that they're here to be part 316 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: of that tonight. 317 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: Russo Radio now Wild on the fan tonight as well. 318 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: How worried, right, six one, two guys, should the wild 319 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: be about the amount of hockey Boldie, Hughes and Faber 320 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: have played this year to have any deep playoff run. 321 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: Well, I'll just go back to what I because just 322 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: remember going into the Olympics. I kept on asking, Uh, 323 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: you know Bill garon that question, and Bill was not concerned. Obviously, 324 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: I don't think that all three have performed greatly since 325 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: the Olympics. I do think that these four days will 326 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: probably really have done them wonders, maybe just to reset 327 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: even Mentley, it's a lot of hockey. It's a lot 328 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: of putting on your gear off year practicing, and and 329 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: in Quinn's case, he plays a ton of minutes, and 330 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: you know all three other cases, they play a ton 331 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: of minutes. Boldie especially, I think probably needed a bit 332 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: of a reset. He was on fire for a while 333 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: after the Olympics then and then really hit a rut 334 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: the last seven or eight games, and and and has not. 335 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: It's not even just that he's getting chances that he's 336 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: not burying. He just seems off his game. So I 337 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: think that these four days will be great for him. 338 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: Anytime you get these type of games off days off 339 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: for guys like Favor and and Uh and Quinn that 340 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: play a ton of minutes, I think it's gonna be good. 341 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: The other thing that's gonna happen tonight that I think 342 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: is a good thing is that they did the experiment 343 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: with with Spurgeon and Quinn and Brodein and Faber, and 344 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: they're going back to it tonight. And I talked to 345 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: you about it last time I was on you with 346 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: you that, you know, as much as I love the 347 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: fact that Spurgeon is not a risk taker when you 348 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: have you know, sort of a gambler in Quinn Hughes, 349 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: I do think that size wise in the playoffs, I 350 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: think you probably have to go to a bigger unit, 351 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: bigger couple, you know, tandem, And so Quinn the one 352 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: thing and Jared Bednor was talking about this the coach 353 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: of the Avalanche when I was in Denver. You know, 354 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: all three of these teams have been experimenting lately because 355 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: you don't want to once you have to pull something 356 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: out of your bag of tricks in the playoffs, have 357 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: it be the first time where it's not familiar. So 358 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: what John Hines did here, you know, smartly the last 359 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: week or two is kind of, you know, test things 360 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: out and see how things look. And now he knows 361 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: that if there's a tweak that he needs to make 362 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, that this is not going to be 363 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: the first time that Jared Spurgeon ever plays Quinn that 364 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: they're going to be able to read off each other 365 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: and things like that, and vice versa with Brodein and Favor, 366 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: who they've played together at on in years past. So 367 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: I think that that that worked out well. But I'm 368 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: not really concerned about any of the three there. 369 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: What are the odds that before as we prepare, let's say, 370 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: as we reached the day before, a couple of days 371 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: before the first round of the playoffs, that Garan announces 372 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: a Heinz contract extension. Is that at all possible or likely? 373 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: I you know, I've reached out to some people that 374 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 2: would know. It doesn't seem like it's gonna just happen. 375 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: It could be in a drawer somewhere. I do think 376 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 2: he is coming back, as you know, like obviously, he's 377 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 2: got one year left on his deal, and I think 378 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 2: Bill Garan will probably want to extend him. I think 379 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 2: that it's an easy thing for him to do, so 380 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure they've had conversations, and it's the type of 381 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: thing I don't think that you announced right before the year, 382 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: but I think that it'll happen after. Obviously, we have 383 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: to see what happens in the playoffs and and things 384 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 2: like that. But I think John is going to probably 385 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: get an extension this offseason because you never want to 386 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: coach going into the last year of his deal, I 387 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: think while to try that before, and it just it becomes, uh, 388 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: you know, a life of its own just by us, 389 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: you know, troublemakers. 390 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: On the other hand, well, yeah, on the other hand, 391 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: I mean to me, it's okay, let's uh, let's play 392 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 1: this out. I mean, if you have a worst case 393 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: scenario and you get swept in four in the first 394 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: round or losing five, I mean to me, I'll bet 395 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: all bets kind of have to be off then no, 396 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I. 397 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I don't disagree. I think it depends 398 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: how the first round goes. Obviously they're playing the Dallas Stars. 399 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: You know. 400 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: The other thing is that in today's day and age, 401 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: and like John Hines is going to be an NHL 402 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 2: coach again if he doesn't, if it's not here right, So, 403 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 2: like in the way it usually works is that the 404 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 2: other team is going to pick up that contract. So 405 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 2: if you extend them, a lot of times it's not 406 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 2: guaranteed money that's going out your door. Anyway, if you 407 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: if you do have to make a decision. So I 408 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: think a lot of times you just at least want 409 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: to give them, yeah, that one year, but they've had 410 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 2: a lot of decisions to make, not just on the coach, 411 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: but uh, you. 412 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: Know, a player on the Wild today play. 413 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: So I wasn't at practice yesterday, so he saved his 414 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: April Fool's joke for me today and he came right 415 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: off the ice and told me that he was surprised 416 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: that I haven't written about the contract that has been 417 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 2: agreed to yet, and he had me on a wild 418 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: goose chase. But I started texting agents of every single 419 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: UFA on this team, and then all of a sudden 420 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: I walked in the locker room and he just gave 421 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: me a wink, and all of a sudden I realized 422 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: this was his April second choke. So but but look, 423 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: I mean, like Joe, I mean, it's crazy the number 424 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: of UFAs. I mean, we don't know the futures if 425 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: Marcus Johanson and Matt Szucerrello want to play beyond this season. Obviously, 426 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: Vladimir Tarasenko has played really well. Zach Bagoshen is somebody 427 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure the Wild they're going to want back. You know, 428 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 2: Spurgeon is technically doing extension this offseason if they want to, 429 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 2: if they, you know, even want to give him a 430 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: one year extension because he can't you know, you know, 431 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: I can't imagine him wanting to play somewhere else. I 432 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: talked him about that for that thousand game story. So 433 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: they've got a lot of decisions to make for a 434 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: lot of their players, obviously Bobby brinkst an RFA, So 435 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of it's gonna be a 436 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: busy offseason for the Wild. 437 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: Defensive pairs are back tonight, Yeah correct. 438 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, uh so, Spurgeon will be back with brodein 439 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: favor with Hughes. 440 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: And then Middleton and Bogosian. 441 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: And that's the way I would assume the top six 442 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: are going to be come playoff times, assuming they're they're 443 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 2: completely healthy. 444 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: The Luigi theory on how to finish up this regular season, 445 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: given how funky it's been, kind of locked in, et cetera, 446 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: is he has no fear about the team meandering, and 447 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: he says rest people, rest people, rest people. Then, in 448 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: his approach, the last two games is all you need 449 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: to get everybody back on schedule and hopefully get something going. 450 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any reasona believe that's the 451 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: approach the Wild are going to take. But what do 452 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: you make of of how we pay this? 453 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I've asked Bill Garrin that load management and 454 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: things like that and that not that that's the same thing, 455 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: right he just he does He's that is definitely not 456 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 2: something he buys in. He even pointed out to me that, 457 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: like when I said, you know, why don't you start 458 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: lowering Quinn's sistimmer maybe even take him out of lineup, 459 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: that Quinn wouldn't even accept it, I mean, obviously, but 460 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: but I do think, look there, they've got a lot 461 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: of guys in the press bous right now, like they're 462 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: they're they're bag skates after practices. Now it's like an 463 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: NHL skate. They got so many players out there, you 464 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: know they they you know, they're they're probably gonna at 465 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: some point here signed stram Ol. But he's he's hurt 466 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: right now. But the question is, you know when that 467 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: happens and when he can get better, and all of 468 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 2: a sudden they add that then I was obviously not 469 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: making the playoffs. I hope he's could go on a run, 470 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: and now you're gonna have a lot of black cases 471 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: up here as well. So they got a lot of 472 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: guys to try to start to get in the lineup 473 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: to just keep them a little sharp. The fobbery is 474 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: the you know, maybe they bring a Hunter hate back. 475 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: Obviously they got Damon Hunt, who hasn't played forever, Petrie, 476 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: you know, players like that tonight, Nick Felino. So I 477 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: do think that they are gonna at least do that is, 478 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: start taking guys out every now and then to just 479 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: get guys in the lineup to that that haven't been out. 480 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 2: But I do think that I agree with you, like 481 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 2: I I remember one year they were playing Saint Louis. 482 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: The Wild played that game where they just you know, 483 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: sat three or four guys Game eighty one and three 484 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 2: or four games Game eighty in game one of the playoffs. 485 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: They didn't look like they'd ever played it played before. 486 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 2: So I think the way to do it is is 487 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 2: once they clinch, you know, hopefully for them tonight, you know, 488 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: now maybe the next four or five games start putting 489 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: guys in and out of lineup, and then game eighty 490 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: one and eighty two, try to go with. 491 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: Your playoff lineup. Yeah, to me, that makes the most sense. 492 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: Which sport is more demanding, Pro basketball or pro hockey. 493 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 2: I'm always gonna say hockey. Yeah, everything, because how Krasinsky 494 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: that to his face, Well, Krasinsky loves this. 495 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing I'm actually playing to absolutely Now. 496 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: On the other hand, I did ask the question that 497 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: had come in. I didn't. I could have ignored the question. 498 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: So I am a co conspirator. 499 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 2: I guess to a certain Extendestally, I covered the NBA 500 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: for a little bit. 501 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: I respect all these guys, you know. I obviously I've spent. 502 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: My entire career around hockey players and what they do 503 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 2: behind the scenes to get ready for games, and how 504 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: how crazy practices are their training. 505 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: All that is tremendous. 506 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 2: But I'm sure, you know, being around basketball could say 507 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 2: the absolute same thing. These guys are physical specimens and 508 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 2: all that stuff. But you know, the one thing I 509 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: will say is like, I don't think that the average 510 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: person understands what it takes to, you know, play twenty 511 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 2: five forty second shifts in a game that really is 512 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: a tough, tough, tough task where there everything starts burning 513 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: and all that and That's why I'm just always amazed 514 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 2: at watching Quinn Hughes play the sport, because that guy 515 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: just seems to never get tired. He plays thirty thirty 516 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: minutes a game, and then you hear about his workout 517 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: regimen behind. 518 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: The scenes and things like that. It's it's impressive stuff. 519 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: Enjoy this evening, thank you for the time, and we'll 520 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: let you out next week, all right. See it by 521 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: bet Russo Radio the Wild back in action tonight. That's 522 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: where Russo is the of a Vancouver Knucks the opponent tonight, 523 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: So pregame six forty five, yes, sir, seven o'clock face off, 524 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: that's correct, give or take. And then the Wolves are 525 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: on in action tonight against the Pistons. I think that's 526 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: because that's an East Coast, well East time game. You 527 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: can hear that via the Timberwolves channel this evening as well, 528 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: so we have you covered both ways either way however 529 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: you want to look at it as well. Let's get 530 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: a bottom of the hour pause in let's get to 531 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: something controversial when we come back. 532 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 3: Every game is a big game when it's wild hockey. 533 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: Feel the intensity the excitement at Grand Casino Arena. This season, 534 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: you can get your tickets today Wild dot com slash tickets, 535 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 3: Wild dot com slash tickets. 536 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: We're a little behind on this story, but it is 537 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: definitely worthy of a minute or two, I think. On 538 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: the program as we attempt to follow the story, the 539 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: International Olympic Committee said, I think it was a week ago. 540 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: Today's Thursday. Right, it was a week ago today. I 541 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: think that it is implementing a one time genetic screening 542 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty eight Olympic Games. Here's the quote 543 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: from the IOC president. This was via a video. The 544 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: scientific evidence is very clear male chromosomes give performance advantages 545 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: in sports that rely on strength, power, or endurance. It's 546 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: absolutely clear that it would not be fair for biological 547 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: males to compete in the female category. In addition, in 548 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: some sports it would simply not be safe. I don't 549 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: find that particularly controversial. I tease this as a potentially 550 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: controversial segment because for a lot of people it is 551 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: for reasons we have discussed frank quite frankly, over and 552 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: over again. The game becomes if you agree with that position, 553 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: you are, at least the eyes of some by definition, transphobic. 554 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: My answer all along has been you could be it's 555 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: possible you are, but it doesn't have to be that 556 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: you are. I have felt for a long time that 557 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: there's a common sense aspect to this story based on 558 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: science that should not make this all that controversial and 559 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: should make itself evident for reasons that we have forever 560 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: had these particular dividing lines. It is interesting to read 561 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: that the longtime Olympic broadcaster Bob Costas was on CNN. 562 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: I guess they were asking report. The anchors were asking 563 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: him for his reaction to the news. The quote from Costas, 564 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: there is a reason why there are men's and women sports. 565 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: He brought up as an example the transgender college swimmer 566 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 1: Leah Thomas, saying it makes no sense to have an 567 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: athlete rocket up the rankings soon after challenge changing sex categories. 568 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: Here's the quote. If that's what the person wants to do, 569 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: that person should be treated with dignity and respect. But 570 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: there ought to be common sense, and common sense is 571 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: not transphobic. He in his mind believes that Coventry, the 572 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: IOC president, laid it out in his words exactly correct. 573 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: And I can't agree more with the costas reaction to it. 574 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: But it quickly like pretty much everything becomes a political issue. 575 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: And part of the allegation is that if you endorse 576 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: this position, you are opening the door. You are enabling 577 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: those who are transphobic to celebrate, to dance on the 578 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: proverbial graves of would be athletes who just want the 579 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: opportunity to be what they want to be or who 580 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: they want to be, and to still participate. And the 581 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: percentages of individuals who do this is so microscopic that 582 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: why is this battle worth fighting at all? That logic 583 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: never has made a bit of sense to me. It 584 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't matter if it was a single individual who fell 585 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: into this category, and by the way, there's quite more 586 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: than a single around the world. At this point, it 587 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: is about the fairness and integrity of the competition. Does it, 588 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: in a sense then run the risk of excluding certain individuals? 589 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: The answer is yes, that's where it gets tricky, and 590 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: that's where it gets difficult with costas the person should 591 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: be treated with dignity and respect. But that's a separate 592 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 1: subject from in this case, athletic competition. And again, I 593 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: think I believe almost any poll that has been done 594 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: suggests that the vast majority of individuals in this case 595 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: will say Americans agree with the costs position, agree with 596 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: the IOC position, but in many cases I think they're 597 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 1: afraid to say so. They have been made afraid to 598 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: say so. I think that's starting to change. I think 599 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: there's more of a belief that taking this position. If 600 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: we back up and say it this way, If the 601 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: only reason you don't endorse this position is concerned that 602 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: you're then going to be called transphobic, you're being dishonest 603 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: on the issue. That can't be the reason you don't 604 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: speak up on it. That silences a point of view 605 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: that I think in this case reflects reality. That's a 606 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: long way from saying that individuals should be discriminated against, 607 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: should be in any way in a larger sense, and 608 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: you could say, well, you are discriminating against so if 609 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: you're not aligning them to participate. But the comeback to 610 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: that is participation is separated for a reason in this case, 611 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: always has been. And I know there's a million asterisks 612 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: about what kinds of drugs that can be taken to 613 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: lessen some of the for example, testasterone aspects of that advantage. 614 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: But the evidence speaks for itself, and I think it's 615 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: fairly irrefutable. At this point my definition, does that mean 616 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: some individuals are going to be excluded? Say not, really, 617 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: they are included based again on the tests that are 618 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: going to be offered. It's it should be as simple 619 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: as that. And what's really rather frightening is you'll see 620 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: this occasionally offered up in evidence, allegedly as evidence. We'll 621 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: have individuals with a straight face say, who's to say 622 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: that there is any advantage on the male side. Who 623 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: is to say, isn't that limiting of of of of 624 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: what we think of with women? Is there is there? 625 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: Really we think that's true, But is it really true? 626 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: And the reason that becomes an approach is because we allow, 627 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: in this case, ideology to overtake reality. And in this case, 628 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: I would say science the ideology of allowing these individuals 629 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: to live with dignity, which is certainly my position, and 630 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: I think the position I'm guessing, I know, based on 631 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: what he has said, Bob Costas and many others, that 632 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: alone is enough to say, well, we're going to pretend 633 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: on the basis of making sure those individuals are respected. 634 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: What's left out is that respect comes at the expense 635 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: of women who are attempting to participate in these sports 636 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: in what might be classified as a level playing field. 637 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: And as long as this is not a Rubik's cube, 638 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: as long as you allow your ideology to trump science. 639 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: For that larger reason, I might respect it if you 640 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: acknowledge it and say, well, no, I deep down I 641 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: understand there's an advantage involved, but I think there's so 642 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: much to lose in enabling the transphobes to win that 643 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: That's why I'm pretending there are no advantages for males 644 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: in sports, and there's no reason we have ever separated 645 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: them the way we have tended to do so. I 646 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't agree with that, but at least say, well, least 647 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: that's at least more honest than pretending that we don't 648 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: really know their advantages there who's to say? Who are 649 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: we to put limitations on those individuals? Does not make 650 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me. And it's a big story, 651 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: and frankly, I think it has been underreported and underplayed 652 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: for the reasons I just laid out. People don't know 653 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: what to do with it, or they're afraid if they 654 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: do anything with it, they run the risk of being 655 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: accused of being transphobic, which is an entirely different subject. 656 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: Should be an entirely different subject. I'll say again, you can't. 657 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: It's very possible that you're celebrating this announcement because you 658 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: are transphobic. Very possible. But it's not mandatory, it's not required. 659 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 1: You can come to this conclusion for a very very 660 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: different reason, one that once upon a time was understood 661 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: but got sort of eaten away and diminished over a 662 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 1: period of time because of the ideology issue as well. 663 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: Let's get caught up and come back. We'll get to 664 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: a couple of texts as well. I've got a couple 665 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: of NBA items to discuss. We didn't have a top 666 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: five at five, but maybe we'll do a top five 667 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: at many five in which Blake Moore can weigh in 668 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: on the Wilds game tonight against the Canucks, and I 669 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: can weigh in on the breaking news that we had 670 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: earlier regarding your Minnesota Timberwolves in action against the Detroit 671 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: Piston State. 672 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 4: Just in case you missed it, it's the top five 673 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 4: sports taggers of the day. Now it's time for Dan 674 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 4: Barrero's Top five and five brought to you by Gutter 675 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 4: Helmet of Minnesota. Never clean your gutters again. Learn more 676 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 4: at gutter helmet MN dot com. 677 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: Well, we'll say better late than never, and I have 678 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: a hunch that I know where you're going to begin this. 679 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: Shall we say maybe truncated version of the top five 680 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: at five five twenty Sports Fix twenty five minutes later 681 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: than that. 682 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 4: Time, Now for the obligatory Kevin Fawlness Minnesota wildmnshit. 683 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 3: Although Wild did get a lot of shine during the 684 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 3: five o'clock segment with Michael Russo, so we love that. 685 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 3: But yes, Wild Canucks pregame six forty five puck drop 686 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 3: shortly around seven right here on the fan if I 687 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 3: get the Wild can clinch the playoffs, and we're happy 688 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 3: for that, even though we really know that we're already 689 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 3: in it's only a matter of time. 690 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: But there is ready. Let me ask you this question. Yes, 691 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: in the history of of playoff clinchings in hockey, has 692 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: any fan base ever attempted to storm the ice? Probably 693 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: not because it's Is it because it's a physical impossibility 694 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 1: because you'd have to climb the boards, or is it 695 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: that we just have too much dignity and we're not 696 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: interested in doing it. 697 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 3: I feel like it would probably be I think if 698 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 3: they won the Cup, we could talk. 699 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: God, Yes, if they won the copy, You're kidding me, 700 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: they should take the boards down all the people. Yeah, 701 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: take all the glass down for sure. 702 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 3: But no, that has not been attempted to find knowledge, 703 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 3: but there is, so I guess it's not the most 704 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 3: exciting game. We're kind of slogging along until the playoffs. 705 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 3: But there's a ton of storylines going into it. Mainly 706 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 3: that's Quinn Hughes old team against three former wild players 707 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 3: from this year, Marco Rossi, Liam Ogrin and of course 708 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 3: Eeve Buyam as well. So uh, there's also going to 709 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 3: be a moment to sign for Jesse Pierce. What's the 710 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 3: stuff going on with this game? And I'm sure first 711 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 3: TV timeout, first period we're gonna get the welcome back 712 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 3: to the Santa Hockey Zeve Buoy, Yeah for sure, and 713 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 3: Marco Rossi in etc. 714 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 1: So it sounds like of all of them coming back, 715 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: Rossi is acting like the most aggrieved or most bitter. 716 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 3: Correct in my opinion, he's justified and he should feel 717 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 3: that way, as we've talked about with Russo it actually 718 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 3: makes sense because I think there's more meat on the 719 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 3: bone in that regard. 720 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: So it'll be an interesting sidebar to pay attention to. 721 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: Although I think we feel about what feel good about 722 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: still what we got in return? 723 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 3: I mean that was I said that during the playoff series, 724 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 3: Like why did they. 725 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: Just all doubt? Yeah, you were not on a limb there. 726 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we were all talking about that that it 727 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: did not make any Well, you could say to them 728 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: it made sense, but it didn't really make any sense whatsoever. 729 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: It was too quick a change and too quick of 730 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 1: a departure for sure. 731 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 3: And in my opinion, if you're not going to play him, 732 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 3: then don't draft him. The Wild drafted him, so don't 733 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 3: even bother draft panyone under six foot your Wolves. Here's 734 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 3: the starting lineup for your Timberwolves who start shortly on 735 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app. Conley, the Vincenzo, Io, Randall and Gobert. 736 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 3: That is your starting lineup. Anthony Edwards out. Now, it's funny, 737 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 3: it's doubly listed as out. 738 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: On the injury report on Timberwolves PR. 739 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 3: So it's listed right knee payne syndrome both and semi 740 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 3: call in illness. 741 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: Well, he's struggled. The larger, more important issue regarding this 742 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: is if he does not play tonight, he will not 743 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: be eligible for post season honors. He's he's lost all 744 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: of his wiggle room in that regard. And by the way, 745 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: if he's if he's hurt and or ill, you can't 746 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: worry about that. But we're seeing it happen around the 747 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: league where because I mean, you do not associate I 748 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: don't associate Anthony Edwards with load management. It's never been 749 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: an approach that this team, to its credit, has embraced. 750 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: He I think the most he missed I'll double check here, 751 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: but I think the most number of games he missed 752 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: going into this season was like three, but this year 753 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: he's missed more. And but again he's being penalized because 754 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: of other players. He's not in that group that I 755 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: think was ever trying to take advantage of load management. 756 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: But I still I would say that there was a 757 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: reason the rule was put in place, and people in 758 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: this league who know what they're talking about, they understand that, 759 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: and unfortunately, some players who are not load management players 760 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: are paying the price for it. And I put this 761 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: under the classification of the way it goes. It's unfortunate 762 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: because there can be some financial implications with that as well, 763 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: But that's the reality. If indeed he does not play tonight. 764 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: Are you familiar with a club called the Washington Wizards. Indeed, 765 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 3: they did a in the generals. 766 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: They haven't renamed the Washing in general's more recently because 767 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: of the Harlem globetrotter nature of being the joke team. 768 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, well they're in the news again, and not for 769 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 3: giving up eighty some. 770 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: Points to or bam. Excuse me, but no. 771 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 3: There are April Fools skits that they did, which is 772 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 3: classic basketball halftime show half court shot for X amount 773 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 3: of dollars. 774 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 1: I think it was ten thousand dollars. 775 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 3: But the April Fools joke, how wacky is that they 776 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 3: blindfolded a fan, made him think that he hit the shot, 777 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 3: and then pulled an So then today is well today 778 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 3: the Wizards tweet out, apparently from getting backlash. Yeah, that 779 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 3: the whole thing was scripted, and the whole thing it 780 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 3: was a planted fan and there it was all a 781 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 3: big ruse on top of the ruse. It was all 782 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 3: just a scripted bit sketch almost. I don't know how 783 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 3: I feel about this. Mostly in my head, I'm like, 784 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 3: why can't we have fun anymore? 785 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: We can't do anything whacky? We got to always be. 786 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 3: There's a little part of me like, if that is 787 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 3: pretty cruel if it were real, but it wasn't real, 788 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 3: I don't know. 789 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: Where to Here's where I would land. Although I've not 790 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: heard about this story until you brought it up. I 791 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: would say, you're right, we've lost our sense of humor 792 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: in general. But I'd also add that the Wizards might 793 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: be the one team that shouldn't be messing with this 794 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: stuff because they have no equity. They are an embarrassment. 795 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: We talked about them earlier. You mentioned they gave up 796 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: the eighty three points. They made a They've made a 797 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,439 Speaker 1: farce out of the season, not just that one game 798 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: where they gave up eighty three. And as a result, 799 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 1: you might say, in the board meetings where we're thinking 800 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: about doing this, we go, you know, this is actually 801 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: kind of clever, but I'm not sure this is the 802 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 1: year we should be doing it. I'm not sure where 803 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: the franchise that can get away with doing it, so 804 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: maybe we don't even bother. On the other hand, they 805 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: may say, well, nothing else has worked for us, let's 806 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: have some fun with this. I have absolutely no idea. 807 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,760 Speaker 3: Here was the statement we apologize for Las Night's April 808 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 3: Fool's joke that left many wondering if we had missled 809 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 3: a fan let's get involving our mascot and other members 810 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 3: of the performance team, was scripted and intended to celebrate 811 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 3: the day. All participants were in on the joke, but. 812 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: We missed the mark. Yeah, that's what I said. That's 813 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,959 Speaker 1: they probably were left with. No I mean, I'm sure 814 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: they they're getting pounded more because of the quality of 815 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: the franchise and that and my guess is a better 816 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: franchise might get a little bit more of the benefit 817 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: of the doubt. But because it's the Wizards, now, maybe 818 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm not, maybe I'm wrong, because we again have no 819 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: sense of humor anymore. It would seem fairly evident and 820 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: obvious that if you're going to do this as a bit, 821 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: that's the bit that, in other words, you've got the mascot, 822 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: and you've got people who also work for the team 823 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: with the mascot that are all in on this same thing, 824 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: and it's just basically to provide some entertainment. But the 825 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: Wizards are not in a very good position, I think 826 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: to be taken seriously on anything. 827 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 3: I mean, the amount of times that you've seen someone 828 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 3: in an opposing team jersey that gets yeah yeah, they 829 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 3: get the yes or something and you're like, okay, that's 830 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 3: a plan. But anyways, lastly, I have any excuse to 831 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 3: bring up golf. I know you're not a golf guy, 832 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 3: but I kind of want to ask you about this. Okay, 833 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 3: So we already know Tiger for obvious reasons, not going 834 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 3: to be playing in the Masters next week. The Masters 835 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 3: is even for non golf people, is something that maybe 836 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 3: you do check out. But now another big name, Phil Mickelson, 837 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 3: is out. So as a non golf guy, if you 838 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 3: were going to watch anything or check in on anything, 839 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 3: it would be the Masters. 840 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: But these two big names for the first time in forever, 841 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: right that they both been out? 842 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so this first time it's two household names 843 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 3: that are not playing the Masters. 844 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: That affect a non golf guy at all or you 845 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: not even tune in. It wouldn't matter whether he participates 846 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,720 Speaker 1: or not. For some casual fans that might make a difference. 847 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: But can you also make the argument that there are 848 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,439 Speaker 1: enough other golfers who have emerged that in the event 849 00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 1: itself is big enough that the connection through those two 850 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: unless you haven't even bothered to watch golf for the 851 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: last twenty years is not what it once was. Yeah, 852 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: I don't know. I would lean that way for me realistically, 853 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 1: I don't want I'm in the maybe ten percent of 854 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: casual fans that just don't really care that much about 855 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 1: golf or even the Masters. I think it's pretty I 856 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: understand why it's as big as it is. I understand 857 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: why it's a great tradition. It just has not been 858 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: in my wheelhouse. So that's what I would look at it. Now, 859 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: Why is he not participating? 860 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 3: He's a family health private family health power. Okay, was 861 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 3: in a statement, So I don't know what that means. 862 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to know. 863 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 3: It's his business. Yeah, but so he'll not be playing. 864 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 3: But yeah, I knew you weren't a golf guy. But 865 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 3: if there would be a situation where you would, he 866 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:44,720 Speaker 3: would probably be this weekend. 867 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 1: But it sounds like not even the case, not even 868 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: the case exactly it. Let's make this the top of 869 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: the hour pause. Better top five and five late than 870 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: not at all. We got a half hour yet to come. 871 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,760 Speaker 1: Give me get to some texts and perhaps a couple 872 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: of other controversial subjects before we wrap things. Up. One 873 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: myth is very it feels like it's very sad to me, 874 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: but I don't I'm looking for more information regarding this 875 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: particular story. Stay tuned, Yeah, the. 876 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,439 Speaker 3: Tournament is underway. Don't miss a second of the action. 877 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 3: You can tune into one hundred point three KFN and 878 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,479 Speaker 3: on the free iHeartRadio app for a hoops coverage again 879 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 3: this Saturday. 880 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:41,879 Speaker 1: It's all driven by Dave Smith Motors. For the last 881 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: several days, I've had texters ask me for an opinion 882 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,760 Speaker 1: or a reaction to the news that the Bulls cut 883 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: a player named Jordan Ivy, And largely the reason I'm 884 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 1: being asked is a belief in the part of some 885 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: of those texters that he was cut for making statements 886 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: that you might not agree with, but that he should 887 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: have every right to make. And I think the latest 888 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: rant had to do with the celebration of Pride Month 889 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: or a Pride Night, whatever the case may be. And 890 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: I knew very little about this story beyond the headlines. 891 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: But I will defer in this case to a guest, 892 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: a frequent guest over the years on this program, regarding 893 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 1: this story. Joe Colly has covered the Bulls for a 894 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 1: long time, and Joe Colly, this is a background that 895 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: might or might matter, might or might not matter to you. 896 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: Is about as politically incorrect a guy as one can imagine. 897 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: He tends to push back against that whole notion and 898 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,320 Speaker 1: cancelations and et cetera, to the point in some cases 899 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: where I think it is hurt him. And here's what 900 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: Cowley has tweeted. He's written a lot about it, but 901 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: I'll give you a tweet as a guy who covers 902 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: the team daily, I know the Ivy dismissal is a 903 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 1: soapbox moment for a lot of people on the outside, 904 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 1: but here's my perspective. I'm all for free speech and 905 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: religious expression, but my guy was bizarre and a distraction. 906 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: In a young locker room, reporters are there to ask questions, 907 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: not to be asked. If they've been saved from a 908 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: twenty something kid who went from Silverspoon au circuit to 909 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,399 Speaker 1: a BMOC at Purdue, get some life experience as kid, 910 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: then you can preach to me. He's saying that. In fact, 911 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: I think he viewed. Let me see if I can 912 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: find the other tweet I was looking for that there 913 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: was more than this going on, because a lot of 914 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: people have said, just please let me know what position 915 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: on the bulls, letting him go over his position on this, 916 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: and Collie has written, there was more than this going on. 917 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,439 Speaker 1: This was the final straw, and the locker room will 918 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: not shed a tear. So I don't pretend to know 919 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: the whole story. I don't know if we'll ever know 920 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: the whole story, but I will say that it's never 921 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 1: Joe Colli has never had difficulty pushing back on political 922 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: correctness or cancelation when he believes that's what's going on, 923 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: and he is suggesting that there's more to the story. 924 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,959 Speaker 1: Because if you want to turn this into a free 925 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: speech issue and you want to present Ivy as some 926 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,800 Speaker 1: kind of a martyr, you're going to concentrate on only 927 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,320 Speaker 1: this part of the story and the timing because that's 928 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,919 Speaker 1: more convenient. There's no gray area there. It seems more 929 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,280 Speaker 1: black and white, and you think you've got a team boxed, 930 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: that they are canceling, and that they're doing it for 931 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: all the wrong reasons. But the story on Ivy seems 932 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: to be more complicated than any one declaration on his part. Again, 933 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: it's not convenient that way because it's not as easy 934 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 1: to just savage it and to say, well the wolves 935 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: really are the bulls in this case, really blew it. 936 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: But I trust Colley as a guy who's in that 937 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: locker room every day and and and covers this team, 938 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: that there is more to the story. It may well 939 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: have been a piece of it, but apparently was not 940 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:39,959 Speaker 1: the piece of it as well. So for whatever worth 941 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: for people who've asked me for several days, that's uh, 942 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: did I call him? Or it's Jade and Ivory Ivy 943 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:47,839 Speaker 1: by the way, I don't know if I miss if 944 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: I use the wrong name of Jade and Ivy is 945 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,800 Speaker 1: the player that we are talking about, the former Bulls guard, 946 00:49:54,360 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 1: And it's another one of those subjects. I think you're 947 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:06,760 Speaker 1: going to tend to believe whatever fits your pre conceptions 948 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 1: on this political issue, the volatility of this issue, rather 949 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: than allowing the story itself and the real details within 950 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: this story to dictate how you feel about it. We 951 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,399 Speaker 1: rarely allow that, or a lot of people I think 952 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 1: rarely allow that. And that's exactly why I tend to 953 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 1: follow what the Collige viewpoint is on this. I mean, 954 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: he believe me, he's a fairly fearless guy sometimes to 955 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: his own detriment. That's been true, and to that extent, 956 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: he's saying, you can make it about that one rant, 957 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,399 Speaker 1: but it's actually about more than that. Now. He's very 958 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 1: critical of the way the team has handled a lot 959 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: of things, the way it is run. I mean, again, 960 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: you look at the what the guy the Wolves got 961 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 1: for the Bulls thus far Io Disumo has done, and 962 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 1: you go why they trade him, and the Bulls can say, well, 963 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: because we had other people who kind of did some 964 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 1: of the same stuff, and we can't keep everybody, whatever 965 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 1: the case may be. They're a train wreck. That whole 966 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: franchise is a train wreck. And thank god, from a 967 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:32,280 Speaker 1: Wolf standpoint, they were willing to trade off these pieces 968 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,240 Speaker 1: in their minds as excess pieces where they didn't intend 969 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 1: to re sign them, and they said, well, we'll just 970 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: try to get something for them. Because Desumo has been 971 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 1: obviously a revelation since he's been here, and I don't 972 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:49,319 Speaker 1: even think we fully understand how important he can come 973 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,800 Speaker 1: to become to this team in the future. I really don't. 974 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,839 Speaker 1: I'll be shocked if they do not find a way 975 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 1: to keep them. I'll be shocked that he doesn't just 976 00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: become a part of the present for this team, but 977 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: a part of the future for this team as as well. Uh. 978 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 1: Seven sixth three Guy is very very unhappy with us, 979 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 1: very happy unhappy. Why because to this point in the show, 980 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,800 Speaker 1: there has been no mention of a Twins pitcher throwing 981 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 1: six shutout innings and the Twins hitting three home runs 982 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,879 Speaker 1: in the ninth seven sixth three, Guy, I plead one 983 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: hundred guilty, And I will tell you, quite honestly, I 984 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 1: am giving the Minnesota Twins and this one game exactly 985 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 1: as much coverage as it deserves, no more, no less. 986 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 1: I can't play the game. Seven sixth three, Guy, I'm sorry, 987 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: and I won't play the game. It happened, so it's 988 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 1: it's fair to talk about it. It's news because it 989 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 1: did take place. It's confirmed. But I'm not going to 990 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: pretend that one nice victory in any way, shape or form, 991 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 1: proves that this team is suddenly everything is much more 992 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: than we thought it was going to be. The level 993 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 1: of interest in this team is low. If they have 994 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 1: a bunch of games in a row or two out 995 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 1: of three for two months that go kind of like this, 996 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: they'll be people who will pay attention to it. But 997 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 1: the larger issue remains the larger issue. The Twins have 998 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 1: every right to run the team however they want to 999 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 1: run it, every right. If they say we want to 1000 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 1: cut sixty five million dollars or so from the payroll 1001 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 1: over the course of the last two and a half seasons, 1002 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: they have every right to do it. They have every 1003 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 1: right to decide to sell the team and then change 1004 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: their minds about selling the team. They have every right 1005 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: to complain about reporters asking about payroll. They can do 1006 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 1: as many of those things as they want. But we 1007 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: all have a right then to process what they've done 1008 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: and to then make our own decisions, decisions about how 1009 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,439 Speaker 1: much weight we're going to give any single outcome. As 1010 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:32,240 Speaker 1: long as they choose their right to go down this path, 1011 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: everybody has a right to do so. Now, if maybe 1012 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,919 Speaker 1: you're a hardcore en ballfan that you get aroused by 1013 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: one victory in a row and one well pitched game 1014 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 1: and a game where the dong showed took over late, 1015 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,839 Speaker 1: that's fair. I'm not here to tell you can't, but 1016 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,239 Speaker 1: you've got to be smart enough to understand why it 1017 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: ain't going to be the lead story and it ain't 1018 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,720 Speaker 1: going to be at least on this show, a story 1019 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: that we're going to give an end less amount of coverage. 1020 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: Two And by the way, we gave actually the Twins 1021 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 1: a decent amount of coverage yesterday and got complaints there 1022 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 1: too that we were talking too much Twins yesterday when 1023 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,880 Speaker 1: the subject was broader about the team, the state of 1024 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 1: the franchise ownership, et cetera. With Aaron Gleeman as well, 1025 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 1: Let's get one more break in a couple of texts, 1026 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 1: remind you what we have coming up tonight both on 1027 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 1: the fan and on the Timberwolves channel, and what we 1028 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 1: have coming up on tomorrow's show, which now I think 1029 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 1: confirmed return signals the return of JG for the Friday 1030 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 1: Football Beast state. It's the bumper to bumper shows by 1031 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 1: American pressure. Is Debbie Downer your new name, No Danny Downer, 1032 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 1: not to be confused with poly Danna, which I've been 1033 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,280 Speaker 1: accused from time to time as well. Now Texter Guy's 1034 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 1: back saying it was meant to be sarcastic, which I 1035 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,919 Speaker 1: guess I should be better prepared for given the level 1036 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 1: of sarcasm that's that fuels this program. Or is he 1037 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:18,839 Speaker 1: just saying that now because he gets beaten down. I'm 1038 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 1: not exactly sure how that indeed will will work. Yeah, 1039 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting because there's gonna be an ongoing battle 1040 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: on In the enough Set program. Lluri Fisher is excited 1041 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,400 Speaker 1: that there's some Twins games on Fox nine. I endorse 1042 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 1: it because I endorse anything that can be on local 1043 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: TV over the air TV period. But I think she thinks, 1044 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:48,359 Speaker 1: because of that affiliation, that she wants to like lead 1045 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 1: with the Twins every week, and I think we did 1046 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 1: last week, and then I think she was disappointed on 1047 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: the basis of what I said. The truth cannot be controversial. 1048 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 1: We can't and we're not gonna be able to lead 1049 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 1: with the Minnesota Twins every week, even though this Friday 1050 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,800 Speaker 1: is the home opener as well. Look, I got to 1051 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,280 Speaker 1: deal with what's in front of me, right, I didn't 1052 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: make up the Twins history. They've made the decisions they 1053 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 1: have made, and I'll say again it's their team. They 1054 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 1: have a right to do it. But then we have 1055 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: a right to respond. I think to all of that 1056 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 1: as well. I did not get to the sad story 1057 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: that I wanted to this segment. I'll save that for 1058 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 1: tomorrow's program, which will include visits not only with Guardgie, 1059 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 1: the regular producer of the show, but with Lavelle. Maybe 1060 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 1: we give Ben Gestling the week off. We'll see how 1061 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 1: he feels about that. I don't know what his schedule is. 1062 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 1: I do want to thank outstanding array of guests today 1063 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 1: that included Kevin Seffert at three point thirty, Andy Lueger 1064 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 1: as you've never heard him before in studio between four 1065 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 1: and five today we lightened it up a little bit. 1066 00:57:59,640 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 4: Now. 1067 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 1: We got into some heavy subjects because you almost have to, 1068 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 1: but every once in a while we mixed that up. 1069 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 1: There was some toy department stuff, there was some bagel stuff, 1070 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 1: there was some lunch meat stuff. And we've also were 1071 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 1: reminded of Andy's own athletic endeavors at Amherst as an 1072 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 1: offensive guard. So all that should be available later via 1073 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 1: the podcast. Four to five. Russo joined from the Arena 1074 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 1: formerly known as the X at five oh two. Good 1075 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 1: primer on not just tonight's game, but the wild efforts 1076 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 1: what they intend to do to best prepare for the postseason, 1077 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 1: which is now not all that far off as as well, 1078 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: so all that will be podcastable downloadable. A lot of 1079 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 1: talk early about what defined sportsmanship in twenty twenty six, 1080 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 1: and my own evolving views on that related to a 1081 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 1: couple of stories, one of them very fresh in the news. 1082 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: You were about to say, Oh, I thought you were 1083 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 1: about to say something. You'd lift the microphone. I thought 1084 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 1: your mic Yeah, it kind of droops. Yeah, yeah, I 1085 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: was trying to stand up. I would. I've said this 1086 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 1: many times before. In my fantasy world, we have a 1087 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 1: headset mike remote that that would allow me to pace 1088 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 1: all the way around the studio. I would do that 1089 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 1: the entire show. I actually would. Now occasionally I would 1090 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 1: try to look up for eye contact because that's helpful, 1091 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 1: but I would absolutely It's how I talk on the phone. 1092 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 1: I don't sit. I'm usually pacing. I'm usually moving around. 1093 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,760 Speaker 1: I would absolutely love to do that. There's an old 1094 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 1: movie called talk Radio, in which my recollection is, I 1095 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 1: can't remember the name of the actor who plays the 1096 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 1: lead role. That's what he does. He's got a remote 1097 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 1: mike and he's allowed to just move around, gesture the 1098 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 1: whole bit. 1099 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 3: I wouldn't, would you like like a I was thinking 1100 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 3: like a little stand up treadmill here, but I'd have 1101 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 3: to breath the whole time. 1102 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be the problem there. But yeah, they all 1103 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 1: say it's healthier to stand, and a lot of people 1104 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 1: have done that in the offices that they work, right, 1105 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 1: that they that they have the kinds of desks where 1106 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: they can they can, you know, raise them up and 1107 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 1: stand for a while, they can bring it back down 1108 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 1: and sit again, the whole bit. That does make some 1109 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 1: sense easier not to doze off at at that point, 1110 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 1: for sure, And I just like standing. 1111 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 3: But then when I let go of the mic, then 1112 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,320 Speaker 3: it just falls down and then yeah I even do. 1113 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 1: It, then it doesn't even yet, it does not even 1114 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 1: hold up. That's unfortunately true. So we're back together. I'm 1115 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 1: assuming are you on sermons this week? Are you off 1116 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 1: this week? No, I'm on sermons. I think I'm on 1117 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 1: probably late in the week for me to try to 1118 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 1: take off, although I'm overdue for one. We'll see how 1119 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 1: that goes. But I look forward, as I said, to 1120 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 1: the return of Guardsy tomorrow and maybe even we might 1121 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 1: even add a guest tomorrow. I'm working on a couple 1122 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 1: of other things as well. Remember tonight on the flagship, 1123 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 1: it's MINSOT A while in hockey hosting the Vancouver Canucks. 1124 01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 1: So a lot of good story angles there, obviously, including 1125 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 1: the number of players traded away are back. And in addition, 1126 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 1: if you're more of a basketball guy or gal, the 1127 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 1: Timberwolves channel will provide you. That's an iHeartRadio channel as well. 1128 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: Wolves and Pistons Without the Wolves without Anthony Edwards, Pistons 1129 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: are still without Cade their best player. But Anthony Edwards 1130 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 1: out tonight. That's official correct, Yes. 1131 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 3: In case you're wondering, Pistons up early eighteen to twelve 1132 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:27,919 Speaker 3: and already start. 1133 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Pistons have been playing pretty well even without Kad Cunningham. 1134 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 1: And as I said, the Wolf situation is, I think 1135 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 1: it's going to be hard to avoid five or six 1136 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 1: based on their schedule. I think, in fact, Houston won 1137 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 1: again yesterday, so we'll keep an eye on that and 1138 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure react to all of the action tomorrow, so 1139 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,160 Speaker 1: you're covered either way. For the record, Andy Lueger thinks 1140 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 1: basketball is more taxing, more requires more than hockey. He 1141 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 1: admits he's more of a basketball guy than a high 1142 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 1: hockey guy, but I think he's actually more a football 1143 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: guy than either. Is this basically coming down to if 1144 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 1: you favor basketball, you say basketball. If you favor hockey. 1145 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,400 Speaker 1: You say hockey so far, that's kind of how it's gone. Yeah, 1146 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 1: almost across the board, right, I mean yeah, I'd like 1147 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 1: to see a couple of people rise above their their biases. 1148 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 1: We did have a text who says you a big 1149 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 1: hockey guy thinks basketball is more, more exacting. That's insanity, 1150 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 1: very taxing. 1151 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 3: But to say that it's more than hockey is the preposterousness, 1152 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:31,320 Speaker 3: not saying the basketball is easy. 1153 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,640 Speaker 1: Well, we'll take up that more detail tomorrow, maybe even 1154 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 1: get the guards you to weigh in on the A 1155 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 1: controversy that has lasted all week long and is not 1156 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 1: going away anytime soon. Let's wrap things up now. Thanks 1157 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,160 Speaker 1: again for watching, thank you for listening, and we will 1158 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 1: talk to you tomorrow. Three