1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,399 Speaker 1: In fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. It's that time for talkbacks. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: Press the microphone and record your message or Austin in tone. 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: Please keep it clean and don't be mean that a 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: sprinkle sprinkle, drip drips. 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: It's that time for talkbacks. 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 3: It's our favorite tarter Sincy three sixty. 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: So Austin buddy, play those. 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: Talkbacks on your screen and please write out to sabotage. 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: The Thursday edition of talkbacks. 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 4: You are listening on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station. 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: Let's get to what we have today. 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 5: It's taking its sweet time today. Sometimes it does, you know, 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 5: sometimes in life you just gotta wait patience. 14 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: I was once told as a virtue, Happy Thursday, everybody. 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 6: James Rapine, I like you, but Jeremiah love it ten. 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 6: That's a big no yeat for me, big jim Uso 17 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 6: reference there. I think the older scale positioned person I 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 6: would consider there. If there's no Downs, no Bay, no Bailey, 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 6: no monster or life in the fast, Laney would have 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 6: to be Otti's boy Tate from his Ohio State correct 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 6: wide receiver. 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: Yeah okay, Ken, Austin. 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: Question boy stronger. 24 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: Okay, that's right. 25 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 7: Talkbackers I'm back and better than ever. 26 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 8: I can run at least one sixtieth of a mile. 27 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 5: Per hour now, No, boy, Ken, Okay, Ken, Glad you're recovering. 28 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: Glad you're back. 29 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 9: Since you guys know the NBA much better than I do, 30 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 9: give me a comparison between this kid from Canansas. 31 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: In Zion Williamson. 32 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 9: When Zion was a duke, where people questioning his love 33 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 9: of playing the game, or since he's been in the NBA, 34 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 9: has he just been hurt all the time and not 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 9: sitting on the bench and just collecting paychecks. 36 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 4: I think it's been more so the injury Zion has taken, 37 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: and Zion was a force in college, the the Peterson 38 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 4: side of things, Like I think Skrzyzewsky was always on 39 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 4: the same page as Zion. Like there's been multiple times 40 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 4: this year where like Bill self doesn't have an answer, 41 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 4: or you've seen the frustration or what was it the 42 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 4: staffer sitting in courtside that shared the message about what 43 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 4: was going on with Peterson before the game? Yeah, like 44 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 4: you didn't see all that was Zion? 45 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 10: Yeah, Oh, disregard the first one norse up water resistant. Granted, yes, 46 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 10: Peterson for Kansas, he's so narcissistic. Just play some some 47 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 10: brigging basketball sad about the toping kid, really excited about 48 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 10: US hockey. That's definitely my favorite part of the Winter Olympics. 49 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, just an unbelievable finish to both Canada and US guys. 50 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 11: Really cool adulting day out in the wild wall West. 51 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: Out here. 52 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 11: Weather out in the wild wall West is pretty good 53 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 11: and adulting, you know, I mean, let's face. 54 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: It, we all should be adults. Great show as usual. 55 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 11: I know you haven't heard me in a while. I've 56 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 11: been trying to just listen in and thank everybody for 57 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 11: the support, oh supporting. 58 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back guy. 59 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan. And well, I 60 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: think Darren petersonoth Kansas is adulting in a wild wild 61 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: West where world. You see, he's simply working on his 62 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: NBA load management skills. And frankly, Bill's self should be 63 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: proud of this. By the way, what did they call 64 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: it before there was a wild wild West? Was it 65 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: the mild mild West? And would you consider what Mick 66 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: Cronin and Doug Goutley did during their press conferences as adulting, 67 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: kidding or babying? 68 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: See what you're doing, people are so predicted. 69 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: You see what you do. You throw one thing out 70 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 4: there and you know it's going to come back. Adulting 71 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 4: in wild Wild West will be the theme of talkback today. 72 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 12: Who is that clown you had on yesterday who suggested 73 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 12: the Bengals take a running back in the first round? 74 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 12: If anything, we need a kicker. Let's get a guy 75 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 12: in there who doesn't cost us games. You know what 76 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 12: I'm saying. McPherson reminds me of me. I also peeked 77 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 12: four years ago. I've been trending downward ever since. 78 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 13: Now. 79 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: McPherson had a much better season. Good year. 80 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 8: From the UC Health Traffic Center, where our cancer experts 81 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 8: are amongst some of the best. Visit us online at 82 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 8: UCCC dot com. Speaking of cancers, the best way to 83 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 8: treat him is to remove them. Trey Hendrickson, see you 84 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 8: where you want to be? 85 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 13: You. 86 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 8: I'm Eddie Zielick with traffic. 87 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 4: I wonder think you Eddie Huan heard someone quite some 88 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 4: time as Doug Gottlieb. Yeah, well that's now that he's 89 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 4: got a suspension coming up and got a few. 90 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: That's been by design that we haven't heard from him. 91 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 14: Just keep on disrespecting collage basketball repping the city out. 92 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: Here, Sunnie Hoddon's on it? What up, Tony? 93 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: What up? Buddy? 94 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 14: Man Kansas, We got a problem with your player, Bro. 95 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 14: You can't pull yourself out the game light that think 96 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 14: you all that? If I was on that team, Yo, 97 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 14: we fighting in locker rule. I don't know who do 98 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 14: think he is, but you ain't all that, dude. Come on, man, 99 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 14: you ain't all that. Good win by any ku And 100 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 14: is it baseball is easy yet? Because I'm so ready 101 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 14: for the Rids And oh yeah, man, Texas Tech topping 102 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 14: kid towards a cl what a big blow to is? 103 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 4: They were one of I think. I think there's legitimately 104 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 4: ten to twelve teams that I think can cut down 105 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: the nets. They are not one of them anymore. 106 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 8: It's the Lord. 107 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 7: I gotta start bench cut, Okay, land Man, the Lincoln Lawyer, 108 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 7: Animal Kingdom hand up. 109 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 4: I've only seen the Lincoln Lawyer. I've I've heard a 110 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 4: lot about Landman, I've not seen it yet, So the 111 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 4: only one I could talk to is Lincoln Lawyer, which 112 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: I think is fantastic. 113 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 5: I saw one, maybe two episodes of Lincoln Lawyer. I 114 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 5: haven't seen any of the others. So I guess I'll 115 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 5: start that they're not anywhere. 116 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 7: I think you fellas on Actually you can get relationship, 117 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 7: And I'm kind of a good idea. I don't really 118 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 7: know the docor field very much, and I read I 119 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 7: don't want to right there. I mean, you know, I 120 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 7: get to the park, I bet up talking relationship for 121 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 7: a little over forty years and say for I am 122 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 7: better or worse, and I've got more worse than I've 123 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 7: gotten better. 124 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. 125 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 15: I got that. 126 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 7: Just a life of a bangle than a red man, 127 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 7: all right, Man. 128 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 4: I think that sums up the life of a Cincinnati 129 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 4: sports fan pretty well. 130 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, me and my brother Scott's out of court side 131 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: NKU sees courtesy of our nephew Shannon Minor. Oh, the 132 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: great Moaggar was also there. Wow bohead a great rip, 133 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: roaring time talking to Rick roaring after the game, hoping 134 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: the popular Austin Elmore show up. 135 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: Nothing. 136 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: Man, are you sure he's really a fan? 137 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 4: You know, I actually saw the great Shannon Minor at 138 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 4: the last UC basketball game. 139 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: Man. Word of circulating NKU legend, word of. 140 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 16: Circulating signing bonus. It's baked from the vill since he 141 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 16: came to camp all swollen up. A new nickname is 142 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 16: gonna be Swelly de la Cruz. Hey, just a heads up. 143 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 16: Six games in for both teams, the Reds and the 144 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 16: Pirates is April to first April Fool's Day, twelve forty pm. 145 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 16: Tilt between Hunter Green and Tough Scenes. 146 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: Wow, skiings, how about that? How about that businessman special? 147 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 15: Good morning fellas. Brian's from LA. I just wanted to 148 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 15: check in tell you how I'm feeling. I feel like 149 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 15: I'm Tony Pike, honestly. One, it's raining here in La 150 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 15: so it feels like I'm in Cincinnati and it's been 151 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 15: raining all week. So no five mile runs from me outside. However, 152 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 15: still been getting on the treadmill. Also, I'm babysitting today 153 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 15: my own child. She's three miles child, Tony. 154 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 4: Pike, congratulations, Hope the babysitting is going well. 155 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that. The word of the day narcissistic. 156 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: Could you use that in a sentence please? 157 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 4: Oh sweet, Talk back matters guy. 158 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: It was a big one there, miss Talk back matters guy. 159 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: Wow. 160 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 13: I'm not a basketball fan by any stretch of the imagination, 161 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 13: and I already know the answer to this, but I'm 162 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 13: going to ask it anyway, why doesn't Kansas just cut 163 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 13: that kid? 164 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: Well, he's making one, you there are donors involved with 165 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: the money that he's getting. And Two, as much as 166 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 4: you hate to say it, he is, if not the best, 167 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 4: one of the few best players in college basketball. And 168 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 4: at this point, like what I find most interesting now 169 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 4: going forward Austin is is that the same way he 170 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 4: approaches March Madness? Or does he Does he approach March 171 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 4: Madness differently? Does he care about March Madness more so 172 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 4: than the regular season? 173 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: I get it, that was the last one. I don't 174 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: think I would cut him. 175 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 5: No, they want to. They won't be cutting. 176 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna get cut. 177 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 5: Tony just wants some bench because they play. You see, now, 178 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 5: it's not it's not what it's about. That's exactly to 179 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 5: be the sport here to be upheld. Okay, Well, if 180 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 5: that case, then you should be cut. Why don't you 181 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 5: go on a stand, take a stand and say he 182 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 5: should be cut. I don't think he needs to be cut. 183 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 4: I think a message needs to be sent that you 184 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 4: move on and and maybe you sit him down for 185 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 4: a game and see if that can help you get 186 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 4: through to him. That's where I would start with things, sure, 187 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 4: and then if it progresses, then go ahead and you 188 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 4: can cut him. But I'd started a game and see 189 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 4: if that gets through to him. Do you like, honestly, 190 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 4: do you think he well? One of my question is 191 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 4: it him or is it the advisement of family or 192 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 4: an agent? Because hey, you have all of this now, 193 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 4: is it the advisement of an agent or is this 194 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: his stance? 195 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 5: It's impossible for me to answer that question right, But 196 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 5: I don't know anything about him. 197 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 4: But I think everyone everyone that's going in directly at him, 198 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 4: I would assume that there's an agent in his ear 199 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 4: or a family. 200 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: It's a lot different. 201 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 5: And also, you know, the NBA money is ridiculous, and 202 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 5: if you can get to the NBA, that's a that 203 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 5: you'll be all right, correct, and that is the ultimate goal. 204 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 5: But I think I think a lot of people got 205 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 5: to keep in mind. Players don't play college basketball because 206 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 5: they like the school or because they you know, want 207 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 5: to get a degree. They play college basketball because they 208 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 5: want to go to the NBA. 209 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 4: But I think the the top tier, there is a 210 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: way in which you are built that when that competitive 211 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 4: nature starts happening. You want to go win, Yeah, for sure. 212 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 4: And I think I think that's the difference in Peterson 213 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 4: that you're seeing as opposed to as I mentioned, Cooper Flagg. 214 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 4: Cooper Flag was going to be the number one pick regardless. 215 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: He went out every single game and dominated last night. 216 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: This was a quote from Scott Van Pelt after the 217 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 4: game had happened. He said, when the presumed number one 218 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: player sits out a home game against undefeated Arizona with 219 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: the flu, after having all these questions in managing minutes 220 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 4: throughout the season and other issues, it makes people wonder 221 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 4: not about his talent, but about those intangibles that can't 222 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 4: be measured. No one is questioning Peterson as a player, 223 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 4: but you are wired differently if you're a competitor, or 224 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 4: you have that urge to be a champion, to be 225 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 4: the best at what you do, and those types of players, 226 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 4: regardless if it's high school or college or the NBA, 227 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 4: when the game starts, the only thing that matters to 228 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 4: that player is winning the game. And that is the 229 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 4: disconnect I think you see from a DEBONSTA. You think 230 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 4: of Kingston Flemings right now for Houston, what Cooper Flagg 231 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 4: did last year. Those guys were playing thirty thirty five 232 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 4: minutes a game because at the core of it, their 233 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: competitive nature was that they want to be the best, 234 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 4: but they also want to win. And I think that's 235 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: the biggest disconnect, and I think that's why so many 236 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 4: people are taking note or have an issue with what 237 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 4: Darren Peterson is doing. We'll take a break, we'll come back. 238 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 4: Are we going one segment or two to finish out 239 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 4: the hour? Two segments to finish out Hour number two 240 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 4: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Keegan Nickoson will 241 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 4: join us as well at two o'clock on the Home 242 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 4: of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen to thirty Cincinnati Sports Station,