1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp, The 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Good morning, 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: my friend, and welcome home. I am Dean Sharp, the 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: house Whisper, custom home Builder, custom home Designer, and every 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: week your guide to better understanding that place where you live. 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: Whether home for you is a castle or a cottage, 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Something in between. That's good too, you know why, 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: because luxury does not a great homemake. It is design. 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: Design that matters most. Good design makes all the difference. 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: Every house deserves it, every house should enjoy it. Because 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: once good design is at work in your home, it 12 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: has a path forward toward becoming a great home, truly 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: great home. And I'm here to help you find that 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: path and take care of all the bits and bobbles 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: and quirks and squeaks and all the stuff that happens 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: in your home all the time. I'm here for you. 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: And of course, as you know Saturday mornings, it is 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: an all calls Saturday show and so you you didn't 19 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: know this, and I'm sorry, I apologize when you got 20 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: up this morning that you actually have to set the 21 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: agenda for today's show. But it's on you, my friend. 22 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: You get to decide. Give me a call and whatever 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: you have, you know that's scratching your head about your home, 24 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: whether it's a design issue or construction issue. DIY question 25 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: inside questions, outside landscape decor. I don't care what it is. 26 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: If it's in your home. I'm ready to put your 27 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: head together with mine and we will get it figured out. 28 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: I got you, I got you. 29 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: We've already got a couple of calls on the board, 30 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: which is fantastic, but there's plenty of room for you. 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: Here is the number to reach me, eight three three two. 32 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: Ask Dean the numeral two. Ask Dean eight three three two, 33 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: and then you just spell out ask Dean. It's just 34 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: that simple, and uh we'll we'll be going the phones 35 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: in just a few moments. As it were before that though, 36 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: sitting across the table from me, my design partner, the 37 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: co owner, co founder of House Whisper, my better half, 38 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: the better designer between the two of us, my best 39 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: friend in all the world, Tina is. 40 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 2: Welcome home. 41 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: That was that was a that elephant. Just ye loud 42 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: and clear today. Yeah, how you doing good? 43 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 44 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna I thought when you were 45 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 4: introducing me. You were going to say Sammy, Well, Sammy 46 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 4: is also here. I see he's in repose. He is 47 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 4: in repose. He's a sleeping dog. Let sleeping dogs lie. 48 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: That dog was Actually he wasn't too bad this morning. 49 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: Sometimes he gets really mouthy at about three thirty in 50 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 4: the morning, and I'm like, man, you are a clear 51 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 4: half hour early from when you get fed. 52 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 2: Buddy. 53 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: We're in an early rising household. And Sammy just loves pushing it, 54 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: just pushing it. Man, We're already getting up at four. 55 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: And then the roosters we're having a crow off. Yeah, 56 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 4: that was fun. 57 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: It was a thing. It was a thing. Anyway. 58 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tina's here, Sam's here. All is well in the world. 59 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: Happy Valentine's Date, everybody. Happy Valentine's Day to you, my love. 60 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: Valentine's Day. 61 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: What did we say last night? The absence of flowers 62 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: is the symbol that I love you. I feel bad 63 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: because you know, people talk about it and they're like, 64 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: what do you guys do for Valentine's Day? And we're like, 65 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: not a whole lot. 66 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 5: Usually I'm planting some flowers today. There you go, yeah, 67 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 5: there you go. We're a very romantic couple. But it's 68 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 5: a very consistent thing, so it doesn't really stand out 69 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 5: the same way that other days do. 70 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: Right, But I feel like I've dropped the ball somehow. 71 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: Oh you didn't. 72 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's say hi to Sam. Hey Sam. 73 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 6: Hey, you know y'all are one of the more romantic 74 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 6: couples that I know. So it feels like every day 75 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 6: for you guys is like Valentine's Day, you know. I 76 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 6: mean it sounds like a cliche, but it actually kind 77 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 6: of is true. I mean, that's that's Tina's perspective on 78 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 6: the whole thing, and so she always like, no, let's 79 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 6: not no. 80 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, you want to. 81 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: Do something special on bouncing, Yeah, let's just do our thing. 82 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: It just it feels forced. 83 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 4: It's one of those holidays that couples feel that pressure 84 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: they have to do something. 85 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: I have a theory about it, and it may be skewed, 86 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: and so, you know, feel free to reject this theory. 87 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: But I feel like, if you, if you really, if 88 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: you got this really great, strong relationship, you know, a 89 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: little Valentine's Day fun, you know, it never hurts anything, 90 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: but it's not really necessary. And if if you really, 91 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,119 Speaker 1: if your relationship really really, I mean, if you really 92 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: need to hit it on Valentine's Day, have you got 93 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: to just like hit the target on Valentine's Day because 94 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: it's it's really important. Yeah, it's probably not gonna help 95 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: that much if the relationship is that, you know, shaky. 96 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: Is that is that cynical? 97 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 6: No, not at all. I think that if you have 98 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 6: to rely on a holiday to be the thing to 99 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 6: save the romance within the relationship, the romance already needed 100 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 6: saving long before that. 101 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 102 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 7: See Sam knows, Sam hears me. How about Heather Brooker? Heather, Hi, 103 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 7: Happy Valentine's Day, love Birds? 104 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, how's it going with you? 105 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 8: Good? 106 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: Okay? 107 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 9: So I'm gonna tell you this because you are You 108 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 9: guys are the only people that would understand this. 109 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: Okay, whisper it? 110 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: So? 111 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: No, I think. 112 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 9: Something is under my house, what you guys? I woke 113 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 9: up this morning, as I often do, to come in 114 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 9: so very early. I was in the bathroom getting ready, 115 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 9: and we have like a like almost like a gate 116 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 9: kind of a thing that's opens to a crawl space 117 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 9: under our house, under the bathroom, and I heard this 118 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 9: like crawling, like heavy crawling, and my cat comes running 119 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 9: in stands over the bathtub, and we both stood there 120 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 9: and listened while it sounded like something very heavy was 121 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 9: moving very slow. And I went and woke up my husband. 122 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 9: I was like, can you come outside, walk me to 123 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 9: my car. I think there's something under the house. And 124 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 9: I was very I don't know what's happening, but I 125 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 9: cannot stop thinking about it. But I made him like 126 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 9: lock all the doors. I'm like, what if it's a person. 127 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: I was thinking raccoon, bear. 128 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 9: But it sounded heavy because he said it's probably just 129 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 9: a possum or something. But I just I don't know 130 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 9: how the possum could get the gate open and then 131 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 9: closed again. 132 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: There's a gate. 133 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 9: Well it's like a like a. 134 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: Or like a grill, like a vent grill, like a yeah. 135 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 9: But it's wood and it doesn't it doesn't it closes, 136 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 9: but there's like a screen in the front of it. See, 137 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 9: this is how terrible I am with home stuff. I 138 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 9: don't even know what it's called. 139 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: But it is. 140 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 9: It is very large. So like I'm like, call the police. 141 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a bear. It's an alligator. 142 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 9: Somebody did have a bear. All right, I gotta go, 143 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 9: I gotta go home. I'm going home, alligator. You guys 144 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 9: are freaking me out. 145 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 4: I'd rather be a bear than a person. 146 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: I know. 147 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: It's a very very calculated, very very patient sleep you know. 148 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: Criminal. 149 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 9: Oh my goshal see now I'm so I'm already so. 150 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: You know what that thought crossed my mind. I'm like, 151 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it. That's a really bad taste. 152 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: Well of course I say it. 153 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: Well, okay, you don't work for the station technically, so 154 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: you can't be fired. But I will get emails later. 155 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 9: Now I don't know what to do how I can 156 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 9: like seal it up. But I told my husband. He's like, 157 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 9: I'm going back to bed, and I was like, oh 158 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 9: my god. 159 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: Lock all the doors. 160 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: What are you? 161 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 9: But I texted him on the way and I said, 162 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 9: when you wake up, please go out there and check 163 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 9: that little great thing. Get a flashlight. But it probably 164 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 9: whatever it is is probably gone by now. 165 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: I mean it's probably a giant sloth. 166 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 9: Oh my gosh. 167 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: They're very they're very gentle. Don't worry about them. They're 168 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 1: huge though, they have huge eyes. 169 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 9: As long as it's not a person, I can handle 170 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 9: anything that's not a person. 171 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: It's just yeah, there's you just got a critter. It's 172 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: a there's a raccoon or a possum slepping around down 173 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: in there. My goodness, but it's okay, it's okay. They 174 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: don't eat much. Okay, okay, good, all right, y'all. How 175 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: about we take a little break. We'll hear some news 176 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: from Heather other than what's under her house, and uh, 177 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: then we'll come back. We'll take some calls. The number 178 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: reach me eight three three. Excuse excuse me? Oh wow, 179 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: oh my god, eight three three two. Ask Dean A 180 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: three three the numeral two. Ask Dean more great stuff 181 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: on the way. Your call's next, your home with Dean Sharp, 182 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: the house whisper. Dean Sharp, the house whisper here to 183 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: help you take your home to the next level. Good 184 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: Saturday morning to you, my friend. If you are listening 185 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: via the podcast. I don't know what day it is, Okay, 186 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't that be amazing? If I knew, you'd be impressed, 187 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't you? At whatever time? 188 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: You know? 189 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: So, you might be listening to this on Tuesday evening 190 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: at seven oh five, and I'm like, Hey, good Tuesday 191 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: evening to you, my friend. Oh, that would be impressive. 192 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: I wish there was a way, No, we can't. Maybe 193 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: I could get an AI version of my voice that 194 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: just automatically reacts to the moment that you start to 195 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: play the stream and you're like, not only does that 196 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: guy know everything about my house, he knows everything about me. 197 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: He knows where I am, he knows you know. Wouldn't 198 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: that be cool? That would be cool. It'd be freaky. 199 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: It'd be freakier than the creature that's living under Heather's house. 200 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: It would be like, Hey, how you doing. How's the 201 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: drive home? Is that a good cheeseburger? 202 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, where is this guy? 203 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: How does he see me? Anyway, that's a complete fantasy. 204 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: What's real is that we've got calls here and it's 205 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: time to go to the bones. Let's doctor Henderson. Hey Henderson, 206 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: welcome home, my friend. 207 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 8: Hello Bee. I'm calling to having the house built in, 208 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 8: and the builder wants to apply one coat of paint 209 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 8: behind the mares and the bathroom I mean it's ub 210 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 8: I mean the toilet, uh huh, And I'm taking that 211 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 8: and two coats everywhere else. And I'm thinking, well, I 212 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 8: think that's an perfective is sufficient because of how him 213 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 8: in the area, And then I have another question about the. 214 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: Five Okay, well, my response to that, if a builder 215 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: came to me and said, we're gonna put one coat 216 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: of paint behind the mirrors and the toilet in the bathroom, 217 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: I would say, great, that's great, and as soon as 218 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: you're done with that, then put the second coat on. 219 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: That's my response. There's no reason doubt pretty much. 220 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, come on, honestly, really, what that 221 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: mirror is covering like ten square feet and the mirror 222 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: in the back of the toilet ten square feet of 223 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: Can you just brush on the second coat, my friend. 224 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: And here's the problem is that you know, you're absolutely right, Uh, 225 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: there is nothing keeping the wall behind the toilet or 226 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: even that small gap of space. Now granted that you 227 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: know you're going to mass stick the mirror onto the wall. 228 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of moisture that's going to get 229 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: back there, but some is inevitable in a in a 230 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: room like a bathroom. So you you know, you're first 231 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: and top priority should be to do everything you can 232 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: to moisture seal those walls so that you don't have 233 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: any long term issues. So yeah, absolutely, come on, come on. 234 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 8: Really, Yeah, that's what I was telling on like because 235 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 8: they want to hang the mirror. First, they got one 236 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 8: coat up. Did they want to hang the mirror? Put 237 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 8: it in the toilet, and then they'll tie two coats 238 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 8: of the second coat after world. 239 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, what's your builder's first name? I'll put 240 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: this on the air here, Parkisan Parkison. I was like, hey, Parkinson, 241 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: listen man twas perk, Perk perk. 242 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 243 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: Two coats of paint, my friend, two two everywhere? You know, 244 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: I get it? Are your behind schedule? You want to 245 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: get the mirror hung and you want to set the toilet? 246 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: You know what? 247 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: Two coats of paint. That's it. Come on, don't cut 248 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: corners on Henderson. He's a good friend of mine. All right, 249 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: let's move on. 250 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 8: Then. My question is I have a room, a bit 251 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 8: room that's eighteen by twenty. I want to know what 252 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 8: kind of suicize stand with. We want to put a 253 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 8: fan in there? No, what would be the best? 254 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 3: Uh? 255 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: Well, I mean what kind of fact. That's a big room. 256 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: It's a big room. So there's two you got two approaches. 257 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: How high is the ceiling in that room, by the way, 258 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: just a regular eight foot ceiling or we got a 259 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: vaulted ceiling. 260 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: Or what's going on. 261 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 8: No, No, it's higher. So I take as ten feet. 262 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so you know here's where the Okay, So the 263 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: builder has got one perspective in me, and the designer 264 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: has another. Myken Technically speaking, if you want to get 265 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: a fan in there that will affect the entire room, 266 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: then you gotta, you know, you gotta break down and 267 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: and go for a big ass fan. And when I 268 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: say big ass fan, that's not a figure of speech. 269 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: That's a brand name. A big ass fan. They make 270 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: the largest, big, beautiful fans. I'm trying to think of 271 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: the last time I saw them. Oh, you know what, 272 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: you know what, you'll find them. You'll find them at 273 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: places like Costco right hanging hanging up over the h 274 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: the register section. I mean, you can get a fan 275 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: that looks more like a you know, a jet engine 276 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: turbine as far as its size up there good eight 277 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: foot diameter fan that'll move the air around in a 278 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: room that size. But precluding that, if I let the 279 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: designer talk, we're gonna. 280 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 8: Tell you like we're talking about a seven seventy seventy 281 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 8: two or yeah. 282 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean that's a big fan. That's a good sized 283 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: fan too. So now the designer wants to have a 284 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: word here. He wants to say this. Listen, you're never 285 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: going to get a fan big enough to move all 286 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: the air in that room. So get a you know, 287 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: the most stylish fan possible and locate it over where 288 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: you decide your main seating area is going to be. 289 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: And don't worry about the corners of the room or 290 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: the other thing over there or whatever. So you know, 291 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: an eighteen by twenty room is got you know, you're 292 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: not going to have eighteen feet of furniture all the 293 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: way across it. 294 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: So wherever that is, yeah, because this is a big room. 295 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: Oh it's a bedroom. Okay, that's a big bedroom. 296 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: So so locate a more stylish, effective fan that works 297 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: with the design and the decor, and locate it, you know, 298 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: where it counts, like over the bed or near the 299 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: foot of the bed, so that you're getting the most 300 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: effective air circulation where you actually want it. And don't 301 00:15:55,520 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: worry about something big enough to move everything in the room. Okay, okay, 302 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: just remember this when it comes to cooling with a fan. 303 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: Fans don't cool the air in a room. They just 304 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: cool you, Okay, because the cooling that we feel from 305 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: fans have nothing to do with them lowering the air temperature. 306 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: They have no capacity to lower the air temperature in 307 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: a room. But what they do is they move air, 308 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: and they move air across our skin, and then the 309 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: evaporative principle of moisture microscopically leaving the surface of our 310 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: skin cools our body. That's why we perspire, It's why 311 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: we've got pores that emit moisture all over our skin. 312 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: So the act of wind or a gentle breeze blowing 313 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: across us is actually what cools us down. So just 314 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: everybody remember that fans don't cool the air. They cool you. 315 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: And if you've got a fan that you're going to 316 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: put in a room in order to cool things down, 317 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: make sure you're feeling it on you and then and 318 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: don't worry about the rest of the room. If you 319 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: feel it on you, you're good to go. All right, y'all, 320 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: we gotta go. We'll come back and we'll take some 321 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: more calls your Home with Dean Sharp the House Whisper. 322 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 6: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 323 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 6: KFI AM six forty. 324 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: And we're back Dean Sharp the House whisper here to 325 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: help you transform your ordinary house into an extraordinary home. 326 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: It is an all calls Saturday morning, like we do. 327 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: Good morning to you. It is just a little bit 328 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: after six point thirty in the morning. The sun is 329 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: already on its way up if you have a chance 330 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: of seeing it today, because I'm told that it's gonna 331 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: get cloudy, and we're looking at some rain coming late 332 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: tomorrow night into Monday, one to two inches southern California. 333 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: And don't complain, don't freak out. Other people are listening 334 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: from across the country right now too, and they're thinking, Yeah, 335 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: one to two inches. 336 00:17:59,040 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: Of rain would be long. 337 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: How about temperatures above zero that would be good too. Yeah, 338 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: it's going to be mid sixties today and right now 339 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: it's clear skies out where I am. 340 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: But wherever you are, make the most of this. 341 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day and this Valentine's Day weekend. 342 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 2: It's a good one. 343 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: Hey, any day, any day above ground, is a good day, 344 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: my friend. So take it for all that it's worth today, 345 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: all right, It is an all call Saturday morning. Time 346 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: to go back to the phones. I want to talk 347 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: to Doug. Hey, Doug, welcome home. 348 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 3: Hi, dang, hey, I got a roough leak. I'll try 349 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: to condense this up. But fifteen years ago I had 350 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: a the roof on my house was a composition, a 351 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: double roof, and it was on there for twenty four years. 352 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 3: It's only a twenty year roof, and it was just 353 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: fine and had no problems. But beans it was only 354 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: a twenty year I had a large roofing company with 355 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 3: a been a business for a long time in town, 356 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: put a tear the whole thing off and put another 357 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: roof on it, composition roof, and right away it had 358 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: a leak, and they came out, had it come out 359 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 3: about four times, three different guys, and they finally got 360 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 3: a fix. Well, fifteen years later, I've got another leak 361 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 3: and it's in the foyer in the front, so it's 362 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 3: not it's not inside the house, but it's coming down. 363 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: It's leaking on my stucco. And this last big rain 364 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: where there was a lot of wind. So I called 365 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: the guy out that put the roof on and he's 366 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: been with him thirty years and he told me with 367 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: this big rain that we had with the wind last 368 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 3: last year a couple a month ago, that well, he 369 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: said it was kind of a final effect. It kind 370 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 3: of picks up maybe a shingle and drew the water 371 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 3: in there. And he says, I don't think this is 372 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: ever going to happen again. Does this make any sense 373 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 3: to you? 374 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: No, that's an excuse. It just is. I wish I 375 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: could tell you otherwise, Doug. But that's that. 376 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Okay, there are two layers to every 377 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: roof system, and the shingle is just the top layer. 378 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: The shingle is not even the layer. And this shocks 379 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people when I say this, But the shingling, 380 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,239 Speaker 1: the tiles, whatever you've got that you actually see, you know, 381 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: it's important. I'm not saying it's not important. It's very 382 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: very important, and the quality of that material is very important. 383 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: But underneath that you've got a sheathing membrane. Okay, that 384 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: is ultimately the real hero when it comes to waterproofing 385 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: your house. There are times like let's say new constructions. 386 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: So we've got a house that's building, and it's time 387 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: to start drawing what we call drawing in the house, 388 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: which means we want to you know, rains are coming 389 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: and we don't want the inside of the house. Even 390 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: though it's just bare studs and concrete. We don't want 391 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: it to get wet because we're going to start doing 392 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: sensitive stuff. Drawing in a house means laying down that 393 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: moisture barrier up on the roof and lay in wrapping 394 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: the house in a in a building paper like a 395 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: tievek or some kind of moisture vapor around the outside. 396 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: If you've got the windows and the doors in place 397 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: and you flash those in with the building paper around 398 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: the wrap of the house and the just the membrane 399 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: you are dried in, that is it the shingles. You 400 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: could look at shingles from the perspective that the shingles 401 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: exist to be an attractive feature to look at and 402 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: also to protect that lower underlayment from UV abuse from 403 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 1: the sun, which is the biggest enemy of any roof. Okay, 404 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: so the point is the shingles are just the secondary layer. 405 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: And the idea of like, well, listen, wind lifted up 406 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: a shingle and water gut underneath shouldn't. 407 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: Matter at all. Okay, shouldn't matter at all. 408 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: I should be able to come to your home with 409 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: a high pressure hose and shoot that water right up 410 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: underneath the shingles. And get them clearly, force it underneath 411 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: the shingles, and you should still not have any leaks 412 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: because the underlayment should be, you know, in twenty twenty six, 413 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: the underlayment on your roof should be a sealed, single layer, 414 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: no seams, underlayment that is completely dried in for the house. 415 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: So the idea is this, no, the idea of like, 416 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: oh well, it was a special circumstance and the wind 417 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: really whipped those shingles. And you know there are places 418 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: like in Florida where a hurricane will blow through and 419 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: take you know, a quarter of the shingles off a 420 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: house and the roof still doesn't leak because of the 421 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: underlayment underneath. So a leak is a leak is a leak. 422 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: And that's the point, Doug, that it's a leak. It 423 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: needs to be addressed and somebody has to, you know, 424 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: get to work and find out why both the shingles 425 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: and the underlayment are allowing water through. Now the trick is, 426 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: of course, the trick is when it comes to locating 427 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: leaks on a pitched roof. You know, water runs downhill 428 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: and so just because the leak is manifesting out on 429 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: the porch area before you walk in, which is great 430 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: that that's you know better there than inside the house, 431 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: But that does not mean that the actual leak is 432 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: directly above where the water's coming out. The leak could 433 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: be several feet up. The leak actually could be over 434 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: the interior of the house and the water is hitting 435 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: the sheathing board running along it before it gets through, 436 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: and then it finds its way and it can run 437 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: along a rafter for a while before it finds its 438 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: way down, and eventually it drops down and starts affecting. So 439 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: the point is somebody needs to be very conscientious examine 440 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: the entire area of the roof above where the leak is, 441 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: all the way up to the ridgeline to figure out 442 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: and determine exactly what is going on with that. 443 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: Well, this is what I I thought too. But now 444 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 3: if I'm sure trying to figure out what to do, 445 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 3: do you think if I put another roof on top 446 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: of this one that I got and other works like 447 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: I did before, would that work? 448 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: You know what? Let me give it. 449 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: I want to address it just a little bit more, 450 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: and Doug and we're up against a break, so you 451 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: hang tight, and I will answer that question right after 452 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: we come back. You are home with Dean Sharp, the 453 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: house Whisper. Dean Sharp, the house Whisper here to remind 454 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: you every home deserves great design, especially yours because you 455 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: live there. What do I deserve this banana? I would 456 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: like to think, so this is a good one. I 457 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,239 Speaker 1: like my bananas a little on the green side. I 458 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: like him snappy. That's what I'm saying. When the brown 459 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: spots starts showing up, that's somebody else's banana that doesn't 460 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: have my name on it. That's banana bread. All right, 461 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: we've got Doug on the line. Doug is some roof issues, 462 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: and Doug, thanks for hanging on through the break, my friend. 463 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: I just wanted to address your situation a little bit 464 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: more thoroughly. So, Doug's got a roof leak, and he 465 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: had the rough redone like fifteen years ago. That's still 466 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: not outside of warranty as far as the roofing material 467 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: is concerned. But the question is, you know, should he 468 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: just lay a new layer of roof over shingles over 469 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: the existing composition shingles or what have you? The roof 470 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: ree called out kind of gave him a very lame 471 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: reason for you know why. Oh, it's just the the 472 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: It was this radical storm that we just had and 473 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: it probably won't happen again, and that kind of stuff. 474 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: And I was saying before the break that the shingles 475 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: are only just one layer of two layers are that 476 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: are a roof system. The other layer is the underlayment, 477 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: which all by itself should completely waterproof the house. And 478 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: so if we've got a leak, then we have a 479 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: problem with two systems. So the bottom line, Doug is 480 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: I would never ever, ever recommend, first and foremost for 481 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: anybody to lay a second layer over. 482 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 8: Now. 483 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: I get it cost concerns, sometimes timing concerns, but if 484 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: it all possible to avoid laying another layer of asphalt 485 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: shingles over the top of the existing one, and there 486 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: are a number of reasons why. 487 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: One. 488 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: Whatever the leak, the initial leak is, we don't know 489 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: how much decking problems it's called. When I say decking, 490 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: I mean the sheathing boards underneath, you know, the the 491 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, the plywood as it were, or the OSB 492 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: or whatever it is, that's the actual making up the 493 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: wood roof deck, the material that the shingles are all 494 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: laid down on. Whatever water damage there. We want to 495 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: make sure that gets resolved. We also don't want to 496 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: trap that moisture in there, and so that's something that 497 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: we don't recommend. We don't recommend the added weight to 498 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: a house just willy nilly. Not that asphalt shingles pose 499 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: that big of an issue, but it's just a thing. 500 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: And the main reason though, is that it doesn't really 501 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: address the problem, the initial problem. Now, if you had 502 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: a roof that was failing all over the place because 503 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: of its age, then now we're talking about it's time 504 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: to reroof. But in your case, I don't think it's 505 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: a question of either well you got to tear it 506 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: all off and start over, or do the less expensive 507 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 1: thing and lay another layer of roofing material down. I 508 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: know there are roofers out there who will do it. 509 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: They'll be happy to do it. They believe me. It 510 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: doesn't there's no skin off their back, and it's a 511 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: lot less labor for them. That's why it's less expensive 512 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: because there's no tear off of the existing roof. But 513 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: not a lot of people tell you that laying asphalt 514 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: shingles over old asphalt shingles. Almost every shingle manufacturer I 515 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: know this voids the warranty, the performance warranty for those 516 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: new shingles. They don't want those shingles laid over an 517 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: existing roof, and so you're just inheriting potential problems down 518 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: the road. If it's one leak, then I would take 519 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: the time to find the source of the leak. Somebody 520 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: needs to get into the attic. Somebody needs to look around, 521 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: see where moisture, see where the water is running from, 522 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: see where it's dripping. The most logical kind of thinking 523 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: is as we look up roof from this existing leak, 524 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: where it's dropping down, we want to look at flashings. 525 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: Flashings are almost always the culprit. So if there is 526 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: a roof, if there's a vent or a pipe coming 527 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: through the roof, if there's a skylight, if there's a 528 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: any some kind of roof vent, any kind of flashing 529 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: penetrating the roof anywhere near where this leak is, that 530 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: needs to be investigated. And there's a really good chance 531 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: that we could actually find the problem before you know, 532 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: because very rarely do roofs just decide to leak right 533 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: in the middle of a big field of shingles, Very 534 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: very rarely. Uh that is almost always connected to some 535 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: penetration coming through the roof and take some effort, but 536 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: it can be found and it will be a lot 537 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: less expensive in the end to fix this leak than 538 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: it is to you know, even add another layer. 539 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 3: Okay, my other question is that it's right in the 540 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: front of my house. What I was concerned about is 541 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 3: the way it's going to look if it's patched. That 542 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: will that do you think it'll look? 543 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? I patch it, I feel you. 544 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: So one is again again a good roof is going 545 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: to research for you whether or not those same shingles 546 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: are available still and if we can get those shingles, 547 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: even though that's a not one hundred percent guaranteed. Let's 548 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: say we find the exact thing shingles, Well, they haven't 549 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: been laying out for fifteen years getting bleached out and 550 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: fading a little bit. But here's the trick, Doug, that 551 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: we often employ. We will we will steal some shingles 552 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: from the backside of the house or from the least 553 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: visible surface on the roof that matters the least, and 554 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: use those to patch in over whatever repairs have to happen, 555 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: and then we'll put the new stuff back there where 556 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter as much. And yes, asphalt shingles can 557 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: be carefully removed, harvested from even asphalt shingles from another 558 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: area of the roof and put there. So you've got 559 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, you've got faded shingles going up against faded shingles, 560 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 1: and you shouldn't have a patching problem. But it's going 561 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: to take a roofer who has the integrity to take 562 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: the time and do it right. 563 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 3: So this is what you think I ought to do. 564 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 3: I've got a friend of mine, a contractor that he 565 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 3: said the same thing, although I don't know if he's 566 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: got time to do this, But do you think I 567 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 3: can find if he can doesn't have the time to 568 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 3: do it, this is what I should take. You think right? 569 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: I think it is the route you should take. And 570 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: your contractor friend is is absolutely right. We're in agreement 571 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: on this. Uh. If he doesn't have the time to 572 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: do it, ask him for you know, if he's got 573 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: any referral to a roofer with integrity and uh and 574 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: and just take the time to look around and find 575 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: somebody who wants to do it right. You'll know when 576 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: you when you talk to a roofer who's like, oh yeah, No, 577 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: we're not going to put another layer up there. Let's 578 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: let's find the leak. That's all you need to hear 579 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: from them, and uh, and it can happen, and the 580 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: right kind of and you know, we're not talking about 581 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: just yanking up shingles and snooping around the right kind 582 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: of forensic investigation can usually get us really close to 583 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: where it's happening. And then we don't have to wait 584 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: till the next rainstorm to make sure it works. 585 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: Right. 586 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: We don't even have to put new shingles back yet. 587 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: We can fix it. It's in the underlayment and then 588 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: in the flashing, and once that's fixed, we can get 589 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: up there with a garden hose and water test the 590 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: heck out of the roof before we put a single 591 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: shingle back on, so that you don't have to be wondering. Okay, 592 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: I think they've fixed it. I wonder if it's going 593 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: to hold in the next rain. No, we can test 594 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: it ahead of time, So best of luck with that, Doug. 595 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 2: I've got to go. 596 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm up against a break, but yeah, that's the way 597 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: to go. I wish I had a silver bullet for that, 598 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: but it's the right way. To do it all right 599 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,239 Speaker 1: when we come back more of your calls. You are 600 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: Home with Dean Sharp, the house Whisper. 601 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 6: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 602 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 6: KFI AM six forty