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Speaker 2: Guaranteed human.

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Speaker 3: What's the foot claps, the hands gets the snap back

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Speaker 3: the pass.

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Speaker 4: Look when the Raven's bringing pressure and the balls.

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Speaker 3: Knocked a round at the line of scrimmage and Rogers

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Speaker 5: No, the Ravens have it.

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Speaker 4: It's Teddy, you canned.

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Speaker 3: He was battling with Rogers and they say if you

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Speaker 3: can and came down with it.

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Speaker 4: For the students, it's bad at the line of scrimmage and.

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Speaker 3: At the bottom of the pile they're saying, the Ravens

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Speaker 3: have the.

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Speaker 6: Balls is eternally to bring this way and then the

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Speaker 6: further da I mean, I guess the question there is

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Speaker 4: Be, did Rogers have possession of it?

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Speaker 5: Off?

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Speaker 4: When his knock out on the field, there's usually a

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Speaker 4: good sign.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Pittsburgh was down by contact with possession of the ball.

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Speaker 3: One of the three calls by the officials yesterday that

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Speaker 3: drew the ire of Ravens fans. And I'm not so sure.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that one. I don't love. I kind

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Speaker 3: of feel like he fought for the ball at the

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Speaker 3: same time as the Ravens defender and then his knees down.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he totally has possession of it.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk to Jean Starator in forty minutes. He'll

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Speaker 3: clear up everything. We already know what the league's stances

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Speaker 3: on the Isaiah Likely touchdown. There were so many calls

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Speaker 3: yesterday outside of that that were like little ones that

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Speaker 3: I think had a little reverberating effect when we challenge.

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Speaker 3: There's a Flowers catch that I still don't think was

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Speaker 3: a catch. They challenged the Calvin Austin that they said

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Speaker 3: don't understand why the Calvin Austin third down catch where

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Speaker 3: he falls out of bounds and the ball moves a

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Speaker 3: little bit, why that's not a catch?

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Speaker 7: The likely one is gonna be brutal, and as Pittsburgh's

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Speaker 7: we have to feel a little sympathetic for Paul to more.

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Speaker 7: Seven years ago, it was Jesse James getting told that

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Speaker 7: a catch is not a catch unless it's caught in

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Speaker 7: the process of making a catch while catching it. So like,

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Speaker 7: that's right, So we're in the same And my whole

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Speaker 7: thing is, uh, have have we heard from Jesse James since?

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Speaker 4: Like where Jesse James evaporated it?

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Speaker 7: Like I feel like at this point, he's just haunting

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Speaker 7: Roger Goodell's office at NFL headquarters like he's the Phantom

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Speaker 7: of the opera, Like every time a catch gets overturned,

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Speaker 7: a chandelier mysteriously.

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Speaker 4: Falls from the ceiling.

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Speaker 7: And I don't know, like, like I'm honestly like, did

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Speaker 7: they I know stereotory was gonna get into this in

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Speaker 7: a little bit, but like, to me, making a catch

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Speaker 7: in the NFL now is like a Facebook relationship status,

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Speaker 7: like it is complicated, like.

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Speaker 4: It it seems like it's getting more and more.

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Speaker 7: Complicated, Like I didn't know that this whole football move

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Speaker 7: was was an evil.

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Speaker 3: I need the football move, but I don't know what

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Speaker 3: constitutes a football move, and I didn't know it was

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Speaker 3: getting three steps in the end zone. To me, the

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Speaker 3: football move was when he caught it. That's a football move.

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Speaker 3: Like he catches it and then he's holding it like Frankenstein, Like.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he's taken two steps. That to me should have

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad it wasn't, and I'll take the w

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Speaker 3: and I'm not upset about it the least, But boy,

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Speaker 3: they are losing their minds in Baltimore today, especially because

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Speaker 3: it was against the Steelers with the division on the line.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's because you have refs out here sounding like

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Speaker 7: college freshmen that just took shrooms for the first time. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 7: it looks like a catch, But like, isn't this all

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Speaker 7: just a simulation, man? And we need refs to be

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Speaker 7: consistent humans like higherarchy.

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Speaker 4: We like clear laws. We thriving clear laws.

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Speaker 7: We need refs, or the NFL would be like playing

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Speaker 7: football with that one big, mean neighborhood kid who would

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Speaker 7: like make up his own rules. You know, he just

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Speaker 7: be out there, like my team gets five downs and

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Speaker 4: What why is that?

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Speaker 7: Because I hit puberty early and my dad's never home.

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Speaker 7: I don't know how these refs do it. Like I

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Speaker 4: I don't know these guys. I mean, they should bring.

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Speaker 3: Out a ventriloquist dummy and then everyone will just get

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Speaker 4: That make it way more palatable. Yeah, but like I can't,

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Speaker 7: I can don't know how I to identify with these

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Speaker 7: have such an insatiable need to be like, there is

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Speaker 7: no way I could be a referee whatsoever. The first

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Speaker 7: be like false start offense, boo, uh, never mind defense,

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Speaker 7: that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Take three points off the boards. You guys are going,

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Speaker 3: my friends, right, I'm with you on that. Imagine the

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Speaker 3: post game commiserating that goes on with the Zebras. I mean,

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Speaker 7: Well, because here's the other problem is that the refs

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Speaker 7: have to contend with people. They're subject to the popular

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Speaker 7: opinion of people who don't know what they're talking about.

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Speaker 7: How many people in a sixty thousand seat stadium know

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Speaker 7: what constitutes an illegal formation?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's true.

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Speaker 3: Did you know that like gain Well was not on

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Speaker 3: the line and that was illegal formation two weeks ago?

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Speaker 4: I didn't see. I didn't know that.

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Speaker 7: I'll bet you out of sixty thousand people in a stadium,

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Speaker 7: what maybe a thousand people know what like an.

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Speaker 4: Illegal formation they see at the tackle.

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Speaker 7: So then let's subtract from that one thousand people, the

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Speaker 7: people who are so drunk they can't see straight. To

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Speaker 7: begin with, it's so many men on the feel they

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Speaker 7: got like twenty two guys out there, a lot of

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Speaker 7: those wearing the same number like that. Why do you

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Speaker 7: have to these people have to take the opinions of

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Speaker 7: people who don't know what they're talking about into heart

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Speaker 7: Like like Jeff, everybody has to take the opinion of

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Speaker 7: people who don't know.

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Speaker 4: What they're talking about. That's true.

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Speaker 3: If you have most people with opinions don't know what

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Speaker 7: That's true. I always say opinions are like a holes.

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Speaker 7: You shouldn't share yours on Facebook.

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Speaker 3: Jean's territor is gonna join us at eight forty five,

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Speaker 3: and I can't wait to hear him say things that

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Speaker 3: his guns. It's gonna make its way back to Baltimore

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Speaker 3: and they're gonna hear that. Jeen's terotor popped onto the

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Speaker 3: Steeler's flagship station today and said, now the refs had

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Speaker 7: Well in the game, he said that the the uh

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Speaker 7: Like that to me, that gives you credibility. If you're

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Speaker 2: You can take it the.

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Speaker 4: Heart if the other one was by the letter of

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Speaker 4: the law, by the letter of the rule. The only

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Speaker 3: But in terms of the eye test, which I think

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Speaker 3: most football should be adjudicated when it's all said and done,

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Speaker 3: and it was for you know, the entirety of the

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 3: If it passes the eye test, it's good enough. Rogers

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Speaker 4: I know, my David tyree the pin in it against

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Speaker 4: the helmet going down? Yeah, the likely touchdown? How is

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Speaker 4: it not a touchdown? I don't even get it.

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Speaker 3: But I think the same thing with the Calvin Austin

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Speaker 3: catch and is a Flowers ketch. Like the lack of

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Speaker 3: consistency is what's pissing people off. There's no doubt we'll

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Speaker 3: talk to gen As I said. In a half an hour,

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Speaker 8: It's cloudy and very cold today with a high of

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Speaker 8: just thirty. All right, I want to know what you're

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Speaker 8: feeling on This is for big music festivals. If somebody

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Speaker 4: They the fun or are they a d bag?

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Speaker 3: It's weird because there are bands like Metallica that sell

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Speaker 3: Metallica beach balls, and that is a strange thing to

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Speaker 3: me because it doesn't seem to fit with the the vibe, right,

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Speaker 3: And I know what the story is about. I uh,

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Speaker 3: I don't love beach balls, but they don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Beach ball comes my way, I'm gonna bat it around,

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Speaker 3: It depends on what show though, right, Like, I actually

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Speaker 3: don't want it in a Metallica show. To me, that's like

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Speaker 3: a Cyndy Lapper thing, Sidney Lapper. Could I come up

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Speaker 7: But like she's choring, like it's like it a Sabrina

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Speaker 4: They're like, it's fun loving, and I disagree with you.

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Speaker 7: I think if you were at a funeral and a

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Speaker 7: reaction be like, keep you uppy, keep you up.

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Speaker 4: That's thing.

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Speaker 3: Every time I think of beach ball, I think of

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Speaker 3: that Simpsons scene where where somebody's going I count remember

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Speaker 3: for its parts, going through spank therapy, and the guy's

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Speaker 3: like for days, and then.

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Speaker 4: A windows open and a beach ball comes through sank

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Speaker 3: But the beach ball at a concert thing summer vibes

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Buffett, sure, but at Marilyn Manson, no, well, I.

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Speaker 7: Think it pops the tension a little bit, and those

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Speaker 7: take ourselves too serious.

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Speaker 4: But the reason you're bringing this story up.

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Speaker 8: Is because Garbage was performing in Australia and apparently somebody

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Speaker 8: got annoyed by it, and the performer did too. Shirley

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Speaker 8: Manson of Garbage got really upset about it, which actually

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Speaker 8: point where she stopped the show and did a full

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Speaker 8: on rant about it.

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Speaker 4: Oh God, with your big beach Ball. I'm so scared

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Speaker 4: of you, so thrilled by you.

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Speaker 3: What she went on to say, I joined a band

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Speaker 3: because I hate the beach.

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Speaker 4: It seemed like a deep core wound.

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Speaker 7: Yes, something something happened to her at a sand castle

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Speaker 4: Her brother was killed by a shark something.

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Speaker 8: It does seem like on this tour she's been using

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Speaker 8: any kind of grievance to use it as a way

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Speaker 8: to talk about what artists are owed.

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Speaker 4: Her Spotify rant was great, it was the beach Ball

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Speaker 2: And he's the guy that had.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but it would seem to me that,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, that'll be rude. Well, that just he's

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Speaker 5: Mess with him.

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Speaker 8: Fifty cent was just built to be like one of

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Speaker 3: The fact that he dated what's their name, the comedians

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Speaker 4: Had one thing that was really important.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it is very cold today.

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Speaker 3: except for the unnecessary roughness on Coon's on that field goal,

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Speaker 3: I don't care how it happened. We're in first place

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Speaker 8: Now, four wins in a row and Steelers in primetime

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Speaker 2: Pucker a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Rob came with a power hour. The Pucker Hour is

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Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you you know what's funny now.

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Speaker 4: To be like hunt, we don't care. Oh, like.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's got obviously some he's vertically challenged.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's so fast.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you to our earlier point, you can

447
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Speaker 3: have one of those.

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Speaker 2: Guys, you can't have a bunch of them.

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Speaker 6: Linebacker Patrick Queen another Steelers player who maintained that part

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Speaker 6: of the deal last week was just ignore the noise.

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Speaker 9: And the end of the day, this media media gonna

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Speaker 9: do stuff like that. Any guy in the build I

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Speaker 9: could care less. You know, it's a brotherhood as a family.

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Speaker 9: We got each other's back. All we cared about was

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Speaker 9: in the building. All the stuff outside we could care

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Speaker 9: less about. We just wanted to do his best for

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Speaker 9: us on our team. So just being able to get

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Speaker 9: a win like this right now, no creat momental.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 9: I think at the end of the day, we all

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Speaker 9: understand how everything went this week, so we need to

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Speaker 9: repeat that.

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Speaker 6: This week I was talking about how everything went. He

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Speaker 6: the whole preparation process and practice in the meetings and everything.

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Speaker 6: It's it matters now. I mean it matters in September two,

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Speaker 6: but it really matters now.

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Speaker 4: But this is why griping helps the fans.

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Speaker 2: All of that noise.

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Speaker 4: Last week put the pressure on these guys.

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Speaker 3: Not that they wouldn't have had a certain amount of

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Speaker 3: pressure they would put on themselves to perform better, but

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Speaker 3: the noise, the cacophony of complaints coming from Steeler Nation,

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Speaker 3: really puts the pressure on them, like, hey, you guys

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Speaker 3: got we got to focus here. And as much as

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Speaker 3: I didn't love the fact that Aaron Rodgers seemed very

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Speaker 3: casual about I mean, it's just the Ravens game, and

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Speaker 3: you know it's a big, big game. We just gotta

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Speaker 3: just gotta be better in preparation. And I wanted him

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Speaker 3: to be more like TJ. Watt, foaming at the mouth, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is the raven But he's like that during the game,

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Speaker 3: he's like that dealing. Well, you saw us.

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Speaker 4: He wanted to murder Arthur Smith yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yes, which have maybe been in favor.

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Speaker 4: Of How did they not have a play ready to go?

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Speaker 5: There?

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Speaker 4: He summing a guy, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, we didn't catch it. Let's just get up there

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Speaker 2: and do something silly.

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Speaker 3: And I you know, and you see him get pissed aupy.

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Speaker 3: I know that he saves his excitement for the ice.

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Speaker 3: I gut all right, But I even think that the

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Speaker 3: coaching was better this week. They were way better coached

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Speaker 3: up on defense. Even though they let the Ravens run

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Speaker 3: for over two hundred yards. Oddly, it looked better than

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Speaker 3: it did against the bill.

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Speaker 6: I don't think you're saying I thought it was pretty credible. Now,

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Speaker 6: two seventeen sucks on paper, but one.

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Speaker 3: Of those runs was a what sixty five yard? No,

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Speaker 3: I mean that it counts.

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Speaker 6: But they didn't let Baltimore dictate the game running, which

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Speaker 6: is what Buffalo did. And and because they didn't let

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Speaker 6: Baltimore dictate the game running, they were able to play

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Speaker 6: from ahead, and that.

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Speaker 3: Helped rum Rumo's going nuts that they weren't running the ball.

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Speaker 3: He's like, what are you doing? Our budd does this

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Speaker 3: historically against us all the time.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't against other people.

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Speaker 4: He's nineteen thirty five for Lamar Jackson yesterday.

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Speaker 6: I don't know why they just don't go big ten

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Speaker 6: and you know, old school big ten and run the

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Speaker 6: ball sixty times and throw it eight.

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Speaker 4: It would work.

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Speaker 6: It probably would, Yeah, And that's you know that He's

514
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Speaker 6: got his detractors in his neighborhood too, and that's why

515
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Speaker 6: because they too often get away from the run.

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Speaker 7: That two minute drill at the end of the game

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Speaker 7: for Baltimore would have you would have on the postgame

518
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Speaker 7: wrap up show. You can better believe that was going

519
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Speaker 7: to be a topic of conversation. That seemed like they

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Speaker 7: were taking their sweet old time getting down the field.

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Speaker 3: Lamar is bad in those situations, Like as much like

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Speaker 3: I kind of wonder is Caleb Williams going to be

523
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Speaker 3: the next Lamar? Like all this potential that never gets realized.

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Speaker 3: And with Lamar, it's just the big games. He just

525
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Speaker 3: crumbles in big games and crumbles the playoffs. That's not good.

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Speaker 3: You saw what was they posted his record like against

527
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Speaker 3: division rivals and in the postseason it's not good at all.

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Speaker 3: And it's almost spotless against everybody everybody else.

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Speaker 4: But that's no margarci par you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: It's like, uh, oh, was it eleven nothing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: He was five for five today? Was it two to one?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

534
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Speaker 4: He was zero for four.

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Speaker 6: There's some of that every once in a while. Defensively,

536
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Speaker 6: they clearly have their warts. Statistically they're not good, and

537
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Speaker 6: we've all seen them blow coverages and get run over

538
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Speaker 6: and all the warts have been on display but safe situations.

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Speaker 2: This isn't an.

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Speaker 6: NFL stat but it's one of my stats. When they're

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Speaker 6: on the field at the end of the game and

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Speaker 6: they have to get a stop to win their four

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Speaker 6: and one. Wow, Really Jets, New England, Minnesota and Baltimore yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Wow, they blew the game at Cincinnati.

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Speaker 6: Remember the long Rogers to Friarmooth's play and then they

546
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Speaker 6: let the Bengals go down to field and scored again.

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Speaker 6: They also did not keep the Seattle game in one

548
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Speaker 6: score game in the fourth quarter latter stages of the

549
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Speaker 6: fourth quarter. Remember they hit that long pass. Yeah, Jalen Ramsey,

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Speaker 6: I think that was Jackson Smith. But in the Chicago game,

551
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Speaker 6: they got the ball back twice for the offense and

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Speaker 6: the offense couldn't finish it.

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson is one one in six versus the Chiefs,

554
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Speaker 3: two and four versus the Bills, three and five versus

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Speaker 3: the Steelers, and three and five in the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: He's also two time MVP, and he may well win

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Speaker 6: another one before he's done.

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Speaker 4: Not this year, not this year, Not this year. He

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Speaker 4: looked banged up.

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Speaker 7: I mean like even on some of the rushing plays,

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Speaker 7: like you could amost see him Winsie, what's he is

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Speaker 7: he at?

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Speaker 3: I I thought he moved his ankles all messed up.

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Speaker 3: I thought that he moved pretty well all things considered.

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Speaker 3: And Romo was pointing that out too. He's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I see the explosiveness.

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Speaker 4: He never looks rattled when the pressure's on.

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Speaker 2: He has he has a great feel for the power.

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Speaker 4: And they can't bring him down. Nobody can bring that.

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Speaker 4: Driving me nuts.

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Speaker 7: Yesterday her big high Smith all had him en TJ

572
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Speaker 7: had him wrapped up at one point. They just couldn't

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Speaker 7: get him down before he hold on to his leg.

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Speaker 7: Please fall down, Please fall down. I know he wanted

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Speaker 7: to roll him there so bad, bite.

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Speaker 6: Him, but they they disrupted timing and and they disrupted him.

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Speaker 6: He didn't just drop back and stick on his spot

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Speaker 6: and throw it when he wanted to throw it where

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Speaker 6: he wanted.

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Speaker 2: To throw it.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 3: and let's just get right into it. The first one

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Speaker 3: I want to talk about is the Isaiah likely touchdown

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Speaker 3: or no touchdown. Okay, you made it clear on the broadcast,

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Speaker 3: and then afterward there are three criteria that need to

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Speaker 4: Secure control of the ball. He had that. He had

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Speaker 4: He had that.

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Speaker 3: But you have to have a football move, which means

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Speaker 3: maintain control of the ball long enough to look as

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Speaker 3: if you've made a football move.

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Speaker 4: That's where I'm lost on this.

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Speaker 3: To me, landing in the end zone with the ball

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Speaker 3: in your hands and taking two steps I would consider

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Speaker 3: that a football move.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's listen. The catch itself is a subjective when

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Speaker 5: it finishes has always been a subjective piece of a

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Speaker 5: replay ruling like this. So in order for the stakeholders

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Speaker 5: to put a play like this in the game, they

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Speaker 5: have to develop frame by frame, line by line, black

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Speaker 5: and white hopefully criteria. And when you have a subjective

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Speaker 5: element that you can't change to be a black and

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Speaker 5: white element because of a review, you're going to end

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Speaker 5: up to this definition. And then you're going to find

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Speaker 5: these plays, which you know I was part of with

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Speaker 5: at one piece of it, and then you've got to

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Speaker 5: try to make that ruling and hope that that ruling

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00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 5: squares with what our saying is one hundred people in

668
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 5: the bar. I'll look at it and go, it's this,

669
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 5: and we can say ninety nine point five of it agree.

670
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 5: But that's where this play goes in my opinion. Now,

671
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 5: when Likely possesses the football, and I think it's important

672
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 5: to say that those elements have to happen in that

673
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 5: one two three sequence so he does have to possess

674
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 5: the ball first, because if he's bobbling the ball, his

675
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 5: feet don't mean anything yet, so the possession initiates that

676
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 5: three step process. Then you have to get at least

677
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 5: two feet down or a body part which equals two feet.

678
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 5: And then if he's not going to the ground, if

679
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,959
Speaker 5: he's going to the ground, he has to survive the

680
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 5: ground at that point, or if he makes as likely

681
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 5: as scenario is a third step, a full step right

682
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,479
Speaker 5: after the second step, now the next foot is the

683
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 5: third step, the play is done and completed, or if

684
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 5: he doesn't have that piece in it because of des

685
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 5: Bryant's play, who had two steps and then reached for

686
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 5: the end zone or reached for the line to gain

687
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 5: or have the ball in this case likely. The uniqueness

688
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 5: of this play, in my opinion, is that when Likely

689
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 5: possesses this ball initially, his arms are fully extended away

690
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 5: from him. So he's possessed the ball with his arms

691
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 5: fully extended. And now you start one foot two feet

692
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 5: and he remains with the ball fully extended, and he

693
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 5: has to keep it there because he doesn't want to

694
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 5: tuck it away because porters going to knock the ball

695
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 5: out of his hands. Maybe if he doesn't, you know,

696
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 5: keep it away from him, but there is no real action.

697
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 5: Then that says, okay, where's the football move pulling it

698
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 5: back to your body, reaching something or this time element

699
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 5: because the third foot doesn't get down just as his

700
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 5: third foot goes to hit the ground, the ball does

701
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 5: pop out right before it. And it's within three frames

702
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 5: and therein laws everything that's happening, I'm sure for the

703
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 5: last fifteen whatever hours, right, So that's that window. And

704
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 5: this play went right to this edge of No, dude,

705
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 5: that's a touchdown. And wait a minute, let's go by

706
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 5: the principles to break it down. Uh. And then, quite honestly,

707
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 5: and I've been a proponent against this in some ways

708
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 5: with replay and our fans and what's good for the game.

709
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 5: If we slow these things down so much to get

710
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 5: these little elements done, then you've extended how long did

711
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 5: he really have the football? It feels like he had

712
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 5: the football.

713
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 4: Forever, So it does.

714
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 5: That's where this all. That's where this all lies, and

715
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 5: that's what's going to create this buzz forever, regardless of

716
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 5: how you start to massage this play or how we're

717
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 5: going to review the play. Uh, that's really the gist

718
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 5: of that. And at the end, what everybody is going

719
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 5: to talk about forever here is I thought he had

720
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 5: the foot, you know, Joe says, I think he had

721
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 5: the football long enough. Whether he made it's gonna overt

722
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 5: act physically with the ball er as irrelevant. I thought

723
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 5: he had it long enough, and those on the other

724
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 5: end will say he doesn't, right. I mean, so that's

725
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 5: really the essence of this type of play. I think

726
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 5: we all have to be careful as we enhance technology,

727
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 5: as communication above down below is getting increased because of

728
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 5: all these new good, shiny objects that hopefully are helping,

729
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 5: we got to make sure that some of this stuff

730
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 5: doesn't end up at the end of the day and

731
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 5: we say, look, yeah, it's great new technology, but is

732
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 5: it good for the game? And I think that's a

733
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 5: bigger question. But really that's really how I broke the

734
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 5: play down in real time within these seconds, and naturally

735
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 5: after listening to everybody in the United States with their

736
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 5: own opinion here in the last ten hours. You know,

737
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 5: that's kind of just where you've got to fall at

738
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 5: the end of the day with the play. And that's

739
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 5: really I think where we are.

740
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 6: Jane speaking of people who had opinions the Aaron Rodgers

741
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 6: catch of the ball that got batted back, John Harbass said,

742
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 6: you have to survive the ground. He didn't survive the ground.

743
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 6: Is he correct or incorrect on that?

744
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 5: Well, that's a really there's so many hard plays in

745
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 5: that game. That play was that play? Is that? I

746
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,959
Speaker 5: never saw anything like this play. I think the fact

747
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 5: that Rogers, I think he has some point. I really

748
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 5: would love to dive in a little further with those

749
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 5: plays in that play. Specifically, for some other definitions, going

750
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 5: to the ground usually means that you possess the football

751
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 5: or does mean you've possessed the football while you're upright

752
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 5: or airborne, and you never gain control of your body

753
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 5: as you're going to the grounds. You're stumbling falling. Right

754
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 5: after you possess a football airborne, then you have to

755
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 5: survive the ground. Because these other steps and all the

756
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 5: other elements I just gave you are pretty much based

757
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 5: on a person who is upright when they come back

758
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 5: to the ground, that they're airborne and possessing it. And

759
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 5: Rogers's play it's if he's possessing that football and his

760
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 5: knee is already on the ground. He has met a

761
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 5: lot of elements and truthfully being touched by a defensive

762
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 5: as well. So is he going to the ground or

763
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 5: is he already on the ground when he's possessing the football?

764
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 5: And if he's already on the ground now and it's

765
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 5: clear completed possession, uh, and then gets hit, he really doesn't.

766
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 5: It's not going to the ground now. He was there

767
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 5: whenever the possession took place, and then the contact or

768
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 5: the stripping of the ball or whatever that action would

769
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 5: happen at the after. That is really that another piece

770
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 5: of this subjective stuff that causes people to you know,

771
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 5: not like officials for trying to apply rules that are

772
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 5: being written that they're trying to make sure they get right.

773
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 5: So it's in that window as well. And I thought

774
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 5: that one was really close because there's not a lot

775
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 5: of time elements there either, right, So is it just

776
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 5: immediately dead immediately upon his possession with his knee down

777
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 5: little windows of further discussion I think on that play

778
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 5: quite honestly.

779
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, See, that's the question I have because to me,

780
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: just because he's down, you know, I was asking Mike,

781
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: does the tie go to the runner? Which is to say,

782
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: it's that point the person who's down. If there are

783
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 3: two people who are in the act of trying to

784
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: possess it, but one of them is down, does it

785
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: automatically go to that person?

786
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 5: Offense wins? All tis just like baseball, right back buying

787
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 5: it first base glove ball and glove put on base

788
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 5: ty goes to the runner.

789
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: So he's down and and and equally fighting for the

790
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: ball with the defender who is not, and therefore he

791
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: has the possession and he's down and sore. So that yes,

792
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 3: you know, I got I get what you're saying. Even

793
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: if he is down, offense wins that one.

794
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 4: That's right, okay, because that was my question.

795
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: It seemed like he was still fighting for the ball

796
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: when he was down and there was not a definitive

797
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 3: possession on either side.

798
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 4: I thought at that.

799
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 6: Point I thought he had it and then went down.

800
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 6: That's just personal interpretation.

801
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: So you you you explain both of those to us,

802
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: so we get that those were actually both properly called.

803
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 2: Right Burg calls great job.

804
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 3: Great job, just happened to benefit the Steelers, and.

805
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 4: That's that's okay.

806
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes right don't fold under.

807
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 11: Pressure and are able to go into a tough envirom.

808
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,479
Speaker 11: That's try to execute as they are trained to do. Yes,

809
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 11: godless the NFL officials. Sometimes good things happen to good people. Yes,

810
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 11: that's right, and this is what happened.

811
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 5: Did you have it? This is what happens.

812
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 10: Did you have an interviewer do an interview in the

813
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 10: Pittsburgh area and that travel two hundred foul southeast of

814
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 10: Pittsburgh and get on another radio and then listen to

815
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 10: someone else. So, yes, to start the morning off in

816
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 10: a positive way to some extent, I appreciate it.

817
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 4: Well, now let me ask you this.

818
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 3: It does seem like they screwed up the personal foul

819
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 3: on the field goal.

820
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 4: Yes, on the Christian kunts unnecessary roughness.

821
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 3: What is the actual rule supposed to be there? You're

822
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: not allowed to make contact with head and neck or

823
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 3: any contact.

824
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 5: I agree with you. I think they missed that too,

825
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 5: and I think I did verbalize that on air. First

826
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 5: and foremost, the center is a defenseless player by his definition,

827
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 5: so it puts him in the same category as a

828
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 5: receiver who's running a crossing route right the quarterback. We

829
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 5: know the people that are defenseless because we're learning all

830
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 5: of those things. So the center, because his head is

831
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 5: down snapping like that, is vulnerable, is not any position

832
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 5: immediately to be able to defend himself, so he receives

833
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 5: defenseless player protections. That's why they move the noseguard or

834
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 5: any defensive player is not allowed to be lined up

835
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 5: prior to the snap within the frame of the entire

836
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 5: center's body. Is why as he may be, that's why

837
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 5: you see de tackles right in the A gap, not

838
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 5: shading over top of the center. You'll see referees push

839
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 5: trying to nudge them away a little to make them legal.

840
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 5: So right when that occurs and the snap occurs, now

841
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 5: the defensive player at the snap can't be lined up

842
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 5: outside of the center's frame. And then as the ball

843
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 5: gets snapped with the center's head in most cases still

844
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 5: down and not able to defend himself, you can't go

845
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 5: from the A gap or over the guard and immediately

846
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 5: take a hard left or right and then blast the

847
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 5: center in the head neck area because his head's down.

848
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 5: So yes, because he's defenseless, he don't want to have

849
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 5: contacted force to the head neck area while he's defenseless,

850
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 5: which is kind of that breadth of a second or

851
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 5: so until he can get his head up, get in

852
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 5: a blocking posture and defend himself. In this case, I

853
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 5: thought that Pittsburgh went into the A gap. I also

854
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 5: felt like they're in the initial contact with both of

855
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 5: the d tackles in that case, and I was looking

856
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 5: at both of the ninety numbers. Was with the guard

857
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 5: first and then in the A gap. He really never

858
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 5: they never really did contact the headneck area. And now

859
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 5: even if it's not headneck area, if it's violent enough

860
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 5: and you go into him and blast him, trample him, foul.

861
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 5: But those two players, to me rush the gap as

862
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 5: they're taught to do. There was some incidental contact with

863
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 5: the sensor, but nothing that would have risen to the

864
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 5: level of contacted defenseless player. So the.

865
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: Argument it has to be head or neck is incorrect.

866
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 5: I think it probably falls in that same category. Might yeah,

867
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 5: because if it's immediately head and neck, it's immediately a foul.

868
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 5: But just as in other plays, even if I don't

869
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 5: hit you in the head and neck area, it's a

870
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 5: punter that punted the football and both of his feet

871
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 5: came down, so he's really not getting protection like a

872
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 5: punter would because he's defenseless airborne with his plant leg down.

873
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 5: If the contact is severe enough, I'm still calling unnecessary

874
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 5: roughness on the contact. So there's still a degree of

875
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 5: contact that plays. May be a different foul by its definition,

876
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 5: but still would be a foul. And I didn't think

877
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 5: either of those pieces had really taken place with that contact.

878
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 5: That was a big play.

879
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: Well, that was a four point run rout. So you

880
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: know what, as a gesture of good faith, I'm willing

881
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: to give the Ravens those four points back.

882
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

883
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: Wait no, wait, no, wait, I'm not I'm not I'm

884
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: not willing to give it back.

885
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, never mind two.

886
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, but Harve was adamant about it has to be

887
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 6: head or next, so he's wrong again.

888
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 4: Well but I no.

889
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 5: He's not wrong. You no, don't. I wouldn't. Let's not

890
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 5: go I wouldn't go there. No, I would not say that,

891
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 5: because if he was again, when coach Roba was saying

892
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 5: what he's saying at this point, he's more than likely

893
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 5: saying something either based on his interpretation of the player

894
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 5: or maybe what was said to him on the field,

895
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 5: So that may be what they did call. We don't

896
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 5: know that. Oh, you know, I don't. You don't want

897
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 5: to stamp that, you know what I mean? You don't know,

898
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 5: I take it. You know how you pull that like

899
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 5: one side of your head set off and you give

900
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 5: you that confused look like you used to hate when

901
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 5: you were a kid, when your parents would look at you, like,

902
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 5: tell me what you guys did again? You know, whenever

903
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 5: someone responded to him at that point, you don't know

904
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 5: where that was. So, you know, I think he's let's

905
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 5: put it this way, regardless you want to dissect how

906
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 5: he said, whether it's a foul or not, or if

907
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 5: he was wrong. He wasn't wrong in my opinion because

908
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 5: it wasn't a foul. So however it wasn't a foul.

909
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 5: He's right, That's where I'd go, right.

910
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense.

911
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 3: Jean's territory Bronzie by Schneider downs just wanting explaining how

912
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: the officials did not screw the Ravens. And you know,

913
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 3: just as an aside, you mentioned your history with such things.

914
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 3: How glad were you to be just breaking it down

915
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 3: on CBS and not actually on the field wearing the

916
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: white hat, speaking to that massive humanity over your little mic.

917
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 10: I could tell you, man, I wish I could tell

918
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 10: you that it's almost harder.

919
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 5: In this space. At times, I felt like, you know,

920
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 5: at least when I was on the field, and I

921
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 5: started it with Calvin Johnson's catch, which was ironically Mike

922
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 5: peiris first game ever as a rules in Wow for

923
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 5: the NFL's attempt. That was the first game opening day

924
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 5: in Chicago with the Lions and the first time that

925
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 5: a network really had a rules analyst on it. And

926
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 5: then five years went by and we ended up and

927
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 5: saw each other the morning before the Dallas Green Bay

928
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 5: game and one of the two hotels that are available

929
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 5: in Green Bay, they tuled in the morning having coffee

930
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 5: and looked at each other with doroing coffee at five

931
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 5: thirty or six in the morning and said, Hey, great

932
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 5: to see you. I haven't seen you for five years.

933
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 5: Let's not have a Calvin Johnson situation today, laughing. And

934
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 5: it was Des Bryant. And then the Jule irony as

935
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 5: my journey went was that Super Bowl fifty two, which

936
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 5: was my last game. There were two touchdowns in that

937
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 5: game that of Philadelphia ended up in gut after review

938
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 5: that were both catch plays, and that was Clement in

939
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 5: the back of the end zone, whether the ball was

940
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 5: moving enough to not have control while he was while

941
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 5: he was toe tapping on the back of the end zone.

942
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 5: And then the zach Ertz play, which really wasn't fully

943
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 5: the Jesse James play, but was really close. And I

944
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 5: was miked at the Super Bowl, and I can tell

945
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 5: you that at some point before the Lord takes me

946
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 5: off of this earth, I would love to hear the

947
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 5: playback of the audio that I set out loud on

948
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 5: the field in Super Bowl fifty two when I realized

949
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 5: that I was getting buzzed for another catch that was

950
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 5: going to just Super Bowl fifty two.

951
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 12: I kind of do remember what I said. I just

952
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 12: don't know if it's really ready for television. Yes, but

953
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 12: the catch has followed me for two decades here in

954
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 12: yesterday's Those are hard plays, and listen in this position.

955
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have opinions, but and no, I'm never going

956
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 5: to get everything right. I never got one hundred and

957
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 5: ten percent of every rules tested every clinic in the NFL.

958
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 5: But you do understand the magnitude of what you're going

959
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 5: to say because this is your role. And you know

960
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 5: I say I'm an officiating analyst and not a rules analyst,

961
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 5: because I'm not just that classroom person, I hope. But

962
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 5: when you start to speak about plays like this to

963
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 5: the country and hopefully maintain the credibility that you hope

964
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 5: you've attained, it's almost more difficult in this space because

965
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 5: you know you are now putting out Look, no one

966
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 5: believes the NCAA when they make a statement from the

967
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 5: Home office about a play two days later. No one

968
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 5: will believe the NFL when they make an official statement

969
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 5: two days later or do a poll report, because we

970
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 5: all have this weird thing like we don't listen to

971
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 5: the authorities as a conspiracy. Who would listen to them?

972
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 5: But when people in these positions make statements like that,

973
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 5: not that you're ever going to be liked, because I've

974
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,479
Speaker 5: gotten more hate emails this morning as if I roughed

975
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 5: the game that I did when I was on the field.

976
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 5: You know, you do know that. It's like, you know,

977
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 5: I'm going to listen to this guy now because he's

978
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 5: actually not the NFL right quote unquote, at least the

979
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 5: ones that don't want to put you in that box.

980
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 5: So there's a ton of pressure when you do this

981
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 5: and you don't, you're not the job can't be to

982
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 5: match what you think the NFL is doing. You have

983
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 5: to voice your opinion a lot of times, and then truthfully,

984
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 5: then you have to do what we're doing right now, Look,

985
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 5: these are the rules. We didn't write the rules. Uh now,

986
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 5: please try to explain this to me so I can

987
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 5: digest this and still like you at the end of

988
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 5: the conversation and not think you know, you're this person

989
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 5: that's trying to ruin this game I love. So there's

990
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 5: a ton of pressure with this one, but a little less,

991
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 5: maybe because I was sitting in a chair and not

992
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 5: you know, running for three and a half hours in

993
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 5: twenty two degree weather yesterday either so, but a lot

994
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 5: of anxiety with some of this stuff, which is why

995
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 5: I do it. I mean, let's be honest, you're the

996
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 5: best things like this, You're the best gene we got

997
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 5: to go.

998
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: But I do think it was smart of Alex More

999
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 3: to pretend his microphone was busted on that one.

1000
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 5: That was.

1001
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 10: The young rookie has learned a little from me to

1002
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 10: tap on that mic Look at that guy on the

1003
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 10: saga who's got the batteries, like we're never gonna miss it.

1004
00:48:53,200 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 5: And then you say I have to and you're like, yo,

1005
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 5: this thing is that working? What's going on with you?

1006
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 5: People like aren't you kidding me?

1007
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 10: And that poor person on the sideline's going to get

1008
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 10: fired because he didn't change the nine bolt batteries after

1009
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 10: the third quarter time up.

1010
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta do it. It's part of the game Boys.

1011
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 3: Jeet's staring turned Roger by Schneider Downs on bb tice.

1012
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1013
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1014
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