WEBVTT - Top 5/Ode to a Dead Guy

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<v Speaker 2>It is Top 5 at 5 time. Odoo Deadguy coming

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<v Speaker 2>up in what should be a very eclectic hour, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're going to find a producer, a

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<v Speaker 2>moderator of the Top 5 at 5 who could possibly

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<v Speaker 2>be any giddier than than JG. So I have a

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<v Speaker 2>hunch there will be no hockey conversation during this Top

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<v Speaker 2>5 at 5, much to Faulness' chagrin. And it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>all Timberwolves dominating Miami talk. As Glenn Mason would say,

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<v Speaker 2>you're wrong. You're wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I will mention that the Wild take on the Calgary

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<v Speaker 3>Flames tonight. A game you can hear right here on

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<v Speaker 3>the fan after our Minnesota Vikings programming and after Wild Weekly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I want us to get right back on the board.

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<v Speaker 2>Although you're, you know, you're big on, we got a point.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we got a point. I just don't like

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<v Speaker 2>the way we, Our special teams are suddenly playing. Spurgeon

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<v Speaker 2>and Mata, or Mata, are back in tonight. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was Mata, but I've heard it like everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>In hockey, the names change. Sometimes there's conflicts on what

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<v Speaker 2>the proper pronunciation is. Sometimes they're both okay. All I

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<v Speaker 2>know is we still haven't made a deal for a

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<v Speaker 2>number one center. Is that correct? Larkin is still not

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<v Speaker 2>a member of the Wild?

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<v Speaker 3>Larkin's not a member of the Wild, and Quinnisota is

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<v Speaker 3>not signed after this year.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a shocker. Those two things continue to remain true. So,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's I mean, it's a tough let's be

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<v Speaker 2>honest in Garen's defense. He's in a tough position because

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<v Speaker 2>he's got to get the go ahead. He's got to

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<v Speaker 2>get approval from Quinn Hughes about who's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>involved in this trade to get Larkin. If Quinn Hughes

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<v Speaker 2>does not agree to who stays and who goes. It

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<v Speaker 2>ain't going to work because then he's holding us hostage, right?

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<v Speaker 2>And won't sign an extension until he decides who comes

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<v Speaker 2>and who goes.

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<v Speaker 3>Does Quinn know that this isn't the Olympic team? That

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<v Speaker 3>you can't just have all all-stars?

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<v Speaker 2>You'd like to think he's a savvy player. Load it

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<v Speaker 2>all up.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a great hockey mind, but you can't just get

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<v Speaker 3>every great American, for example, and just put him on

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<v Speaker 3>the wild.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't work that way in the NHL. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>he understands that. I just want it all to end soon.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Although we're getting some run out of it. Although all

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing is complaining about it. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if it's good content or not.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's very true. 745 puck drop, 8 o'clock. Right

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<v Speaker 2>here on The Fan. Well, I'll save it because otherwise

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be too far behind. But there is

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<v Speaker 2>a post-script video. to our, I guess you could say,

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<v Speaker 2>town hall meeting in studio a couple days ago with

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<v Speaker 2>both Lou Nanny and Russo Radio, but I'll save it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, speaking of bringing America together, you know

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<v Speaker 3>who might bring America together?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's that?

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<v Speaker 3>The best backcourt in the NBA. The most fun, we

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<v Speaker 3>know that. LaMelo Ball and Anthony Edwards. Remember when the

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<v Speaker 3>Heat were really going to stress their pressure points? We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to have trouble with interior defense. How are you

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<v Speaker 3>going to handle that?

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to be able to get to the rim.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what we decided to do? Let's not get

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<v Speaker 2>to the rim. We're just going to shoot over. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>shoot over. Yeah, we'll shoot 53s. Create some space, which

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Edwards, just true to form... Had the opportunity to do,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a little tougher to double him, because he's

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<v Speaker 2>not the guy bringing the ball up the court.

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<v Speaker 3>But go ahead. 9 of 17 was Anthony Edwards. From 3,

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<v Speaker 3>16 of 29 from the floor, 45 points. He has

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<v Speaker 3>now gone over 40 in back-to-back season openers. The Wolves

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<v Speaker 3>run away from Giannis, ruin Giannis' night, his debut in

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<v Speaker 3>South Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>And he had 35. Yes. But dare I call it

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<v Speaker 2>a quiet 35? It got quieter because we had 21

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<v Speaker 2>in the first half. Finchie has already fallen in love

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<v Speaker 2>with our new power forward. Jonathan Kaminga. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>Kaminga a lot of the time, as I thought might

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<v Speaker 2>be the case, at least some of the time. And

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<v Speaker 2>even though he had 35, he thought Kaminga did a

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<v Speaker 2>decent job at times. I just, I mean, what I've seen,

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<v Speaker 2>I just, I like that. Look like he has a

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<v Speaker 2>role or that he's happy with what the role is.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we'll see. That's one game where it goes, but

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<v Speaker 2>we'll say again, remember, The vacuum at that position until

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<v Speaker 2>we got him. You know, we talked about it the

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<v Speaker 2>whole summer. It's like, well, how's this going to work?

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to go small ball throughout?

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<v Speaker 1>T.J.

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<v Speaker 3>Shannon can do it. Think about how preposterous that was.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. That's the scary part. And the other guy, again,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've mentioned him a couple times. We both have. DeSumo, man.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>DeSumo. This could be the year of DeSumo very easily.

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<v Speaker 2>The year of Iowa? Did you see him get his best?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to describe his best moment last night? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me what it is, see if I remember. Getting

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<v Speaker 2>in Anthony Edwards' grill for the stupid technical foul he

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<v Speaker 2>got with the Wolves up 50.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Because those are crew. They do. And you could hear

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<v Speaker 2>DeSumo basically say, man, what are you doing? We need

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<v Speaker 2>you too much. Get out of there. At least that's

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<v Speaker 2>how I took it. Maybe that's how I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>take it. No, I think that's exactly how you should

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<v Speaker 2>have taken it. Did I mention that Melo, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>added five threes, 21 points, six assists. Rudy had 15 rebounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Got off to a very good start, like his first

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<v Speaker 2>six-minute stretch, or seven, whatever it was, too. He established

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<v Speaker 2>himself very early.

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<v Speaker 3>Ant had 10 rebounds as well, and Jaden McDaniels was

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<v Speaker 3>a quiet 17-8.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he had 13 at the half, so it

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<v Speaker 2>got quieter, but he scored very effectively in the first half.

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<v Speaker 2>Smoked an imaginary cigarette while Anthony Edwards hit a corner three,

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<v Speaker 2>which was also kind of fun. You know what I like, too?

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<v Speaker 5>They.

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<v Speaker 3>We're up, I think, double digits. The second unit came in,

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<v Speaker 3>which was kind of a mess. They didn't know what

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<v Speaker 3>was going on.

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<v Speaker 2>The game gets back closed. It's tied.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Miami took a quick lead, and the Wolves

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<v Speaker 3>re-extended the lead back to 10 at halftime.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what I loved?

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<v Speaker 3>They came out, and two minutes into the third, they

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<v Speaker 3>were up 17, and Miami called a timeout. Re-established control.

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<v Speaker 3>They just came out and said, bleep it. They didn't

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<v Speaker 3>mess around. They didn't let it get close. They just

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<v Speaker 3>took control right from the jump.

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<v Speaker 2>Kendrick Perkins did acknowledge, I think, an important point. When

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<v Speaker 2>they were inbounding the ball after made baskets or even

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<v Speaker 2>after a couple of Rudy rebounds, they were moving. They

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<v Speaker 2>were at the other end of the court pretty quick.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we're going to see that every day,

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<v Speaker 2>every possession. But we all said that's part of what

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<v Speaker 2>you have to change. You have to become less plotting

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<v Speaker 2>than you've been. You've got a point guard who can

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<v Speaker 2>get up fast and obviously can run the court. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no reason Edwards cannot. Jaden can run, and depending on

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<v Speaker 2>what bench players you have, you have other people who

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<v Speaker 2>can run. And there were a number of plays in

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<v Speaker 2>which they're shooting pretty quick after they've given up a

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<v Speaker 2>basket on the other end. I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 2>it was Loyola-Maramount-like, but it was a clear improvement over

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<v Speaker 2>what it's been, and that has to be part of

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<v Speaker 2>the formula if you're going to be this new look team,

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<v Speaker 2>and even more importantly, if you're going to be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>The first eight or nine minutes was breakneck both ways. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Last quick thing, speaking of running, one of the plays

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<v Speaker 3>that I loved ended up with Rudy getting fouled at

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<v Speaker 3>the rim, and he had sprinted, to your point.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a fast break.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if Ant gave it to him

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<v Speaker 3>or LaMelo gave it to him, but it took me

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<v Speaker 3>a second to realize it was Rudy because it happened

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<v Speaker 3>so fast. And Rudy had not only kept up with everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>he beat everybody down the floor. And Ant went right

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<v Speaker 3>to him and was basically like, that's what we need.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. It's the culture shield. He's in the best

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<v Speaker 2>shape of anybody on the roster.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but I love what Ant did. Yeah, reinforcing it. Basically,

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<v Speaker 3>that's exactly it. I don't disagree. He probably missed at

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<v Speaker 3>least one of the two free throws, but it was good.

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<v Speaker 3>It was still good. I still liked it. Tomorrow night, Orlando.

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<v Speaker 3>Game two, the home opener, Sunday night against Kawhi Leonard

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<v Speaker 3>and the Toronto Raptors. You know how the Vikings got

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<v Speaker 3>good injury news yesterday, or we got good injury news

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<v Speaker 3>from the Vikings? What would you call today? Jordan Addison,

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<v Speaker 3>full participant. Christian Derrissaw, full participant. TJ Hawkinson, full participant. JJ,

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<v Speaker 3>as in Justin Jefferson, the only one we have left.

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<v Speaker 3>He was limited yesterday. But he's going to obviously play

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<v Speaker 3>on Sunday. Full participant today. Jordan Mason was full again.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian O'Neal was limited yesterday. Full participant today. Everybody on

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<v Speaker 3>the list.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's funny how it works? Team that's 5-0,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it funny how quickly everybody can get healthy? They're

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<v Speaker 2>feeling good. They want to be out there to have fun.

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<v Speaker 6>This is it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what you revel about your job is 5-0 club,

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<v Speaker 2>good chance to be 6-0. Colts coming to town, and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to sit.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 2>There's times you might want to milk an injury or two. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you have. But not now.

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<v Speaker 3>You have superficial blood clots, and you want to sit

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very true. Right? Or you want to take care

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<v Speaker 2>of your mental health. You're all pro-offensive linemen, and you

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<v Speaker 2>got to take suddenly your mental health. But you're losing,

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<v Speaker 2>so you bail. That's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we have to do the sarcasm disclaimer? We probably

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<v Speaker 3>need to. It's a joke, because those are preposterous takes.

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<v Speaker 3>But good news for the Purple. Good news for the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 1>No question.

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<v Speaker 2>A very clean injury sheet. Are we up to a

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<v Speaker 2>double-digit favorite yet? Let me check.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me go to NFL odds.

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<v Speaker 2>The Vikings, there's no excuse if the Vikings don't win

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<v Speaker 2>this game by double digits.

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<v Speaker 3>This should not be close. It's the National Football League, Dan.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a funny game. No, we're only six and a

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<v Speaker 3>half point favorites.

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<v Speaker 2>That's embarrassing. Six and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm told they're getting at least a point from

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<v Speaker 3>the Paul Allen-Galahorn boost.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta be. Good point. At least a point.

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<v Speaker 3>So Vegas might only have them as five and a

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<v Speaker 3>half points, but the Paul Allen-Galahorn boost is pumping them

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<v Speaker 3>up a point.

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<v Speaker 2>My sources say, and I'm like Woodward and Bernstein, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got more than two on this, that PA will be

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<v Speaker 2>broadcasting the entire first quarter from not the exclusive KFN perch,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Gjallarhorn perch. He did wonder about that with

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<v Speaker 2>Bursic the other day, how he was going to get back.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't get back! Well, here was my thought, and I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't run this by anybody. There's enough open areas of

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<v Speaker 3>the concourse. Just bring the wireless.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Call the play.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And then just start walking. Go into every single suite.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's time for Ode to a Dead Guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Story breaking. I believe earlier today that Tom Skerritt has

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<v Speaker 2>passed away at the age of 93 years old. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds like a run most of us would take.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope he's been in relatively good health for as

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<v Speaker 2>much of that as possible, but 93? I mean, most

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<v Speaker 2>people would take that, correct? I think so. 93 years old. Underrated?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if that's the right word for him.

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<v Speaker 2>But he is a guy who doesn't get mentioned probably

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<v Speaker 2>enough in terms of, I think, his versatility. His breadth

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<v Speaker 2>of performance. And frankly, his connection to a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>really good motion pictures, right? Alien. Steel Magnolias. Won some Emmys.

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<v Speaker 2>In the case of M.A.S.H., he was in the original

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<v Speaker 2>motion picture back in 1970. Alien, 1979. He's the.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the captain, kind of in charge of the ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Top Gun, 1986. Viper, the hard-nosed flight instructor is the

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<v Speaker 2>way he's described, or the character he plays, described by

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Times. Underrated film called The Turning Point, 1977.

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<v Speaker 2>Shirley MacLaine. Primetime CBS series Picket Fences, which I never

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<v Speaker 2>really watched much. Successful. played a small-town Wisconsin sheriff, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's really where he became probably more widely known, right?

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<v Speaker 2>TV pretty much has that impact for sure. And the

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<v Speaker 2>list goes on and on and on. I honestly believe

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<v Speaker 2>one of his best performances is in a film that

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about over the years on this show that

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<v Speaker 2>I think is one of the better I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to call it science fiction. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a film. It's got some science fiction in it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also a film about faith. It was made in 1997.

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<v Speaker 2>A film called Contact. And I've got... We've got about

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<v Speaker 2>a two-minute deal in which we hear from the character

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<v Speaker 2>that Skerritt plays... in this motion picture. There's a guy

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<v Speaker 2>I follow who covers movies. His Twitter handle is The Sting.

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<v Speaker 2>And he wrote this about Skerritt in the wake of

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<v Speaker 2>the news. Tom Skerritt was so good that even when

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<v Speaker 2>he played a villain, you still liked him. In Contact,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the perfect, smooth-talking bureaucrat who wins by working the

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<v Speaker 2>system instead of doing the work. And he's so charming,

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<v Speaker 2>you almost... indeed forgive him. And I thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>a brilliant, I guess you could say, description of the

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<v Speaker 2>role he plays in the film. But an important role,

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>A number of other actors, including Jodie Foster, in that film,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of play off of him, one could say. McConaughey

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<v Speaker 2>is in that movie. Same thing. Let's listen. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're going to hear from Jodie, and you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to hear from Tom Skerritt, as I said, playing... Best

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<v Speaker 2>way to put it, the... The very cool and calculated,

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<v Speaker 2>smooth-talking bureaucrat in that film called Contact.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe in God?

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<v Speaker 5>Dr.

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<v Speaker 7>Arroway.

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<v Speaker 2>As a scientist, I rely on empirical evidence, and in

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<v Speaker 2>this matter, I don't believe that there is.

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<v Speaker 5>Data either way.

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<v Speaker 2>So your answer would in fact be that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>believe in God. I'm proud of what.

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<v Speaker 5>We've achieved as a species and as a civilization. I

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<v Speaker 5>would hate to see everything we stand.

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<v Speaker 6>For, all that we have fought for for a thousand generations,

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<v Speaker 6>all that God has blessed us with, betrayed. In the

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<v Speaker 6>final hour, because we chose to send a representative who

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<v Speaker 6>did not put our most cherished beliefs first.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Ellie.

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<v Speaker 7>Congratulations, David.

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<v Speaker 6>Glad you could come.

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<v Speaker 5>Didn't expect to.

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<v Speaker 1>See you here.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm still, you know, crew ops at the control

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<v Speaker 5>center and I suppose the fact that I discovered the

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<v Speaker 5>message means that I have some PR value.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course.

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<v Speaker 5>Ellie, I know you must think this is all very unfair.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe that's an understatement. What you don't know is I agree.

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<v Speaker 5>I wish the world was a place where fair was

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<v Speaker 5>the bottom line, where the kind of idealism ensured that

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<v Speaker 5>the hearing was rewarded, not taken advantage of.

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<v Speaker 6>Unfortunately, we don't live in that world.

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<v Speaker 8>Funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always believed that the world is what we make

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<v Speaker 2>of it. Excuse me, Dr. Drummond, sir? Good luck on

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<v Speaker 2>the test. So you can fade it out. They're both competing.

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<v Speaker 2>They were both competing for the spot to participate. captain,

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<v Speaker 2>so to speak, this experimental spacecraft that had, they learned

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<v Speaker 2>how to build it from the aliens, right? And Jodie

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<v Speaker 2>Foster playing Dr. Ellie Ann Arroway was really the, should

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<v Speaker 2>have been, by all accounts, should have been in that position,

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<v Speaker 2>but she answered the religion question too honestly. He didn't. Dr.

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<v Speaker 2>David Drumlin is the character Tom Skerritt plays, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think Um, that's where I think scared was so effective

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<v Speaker 2>in his role because that's, that rang true. Did it

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<v Speaker 2>not that in, in the motion picture that life isn't

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<v Speaker 2>always fair and it is often political and the person

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<v Speaker 2>who gives the most honest answer to that committee that

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<v Speaker 2>was going to determine which person goes up in the,

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<v Speaker 2>in the experimental spaceship. Um, The person who's the most

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<v Speaker 2>honest is most likely to not get the thing, be rewarded.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was a bit of a self-awareness in Dr. Drumlin,

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<v Speaker 2>played by Tom Skerritt, and in that soundbite, he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of acknowledged it. But a sneaky good role, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to honor his career, that's not a bad

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<v Speaker 2>movie to watch. Yet again, I've watched it several times,

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<v Speaker 2>but very, very good, that's for sure. Were you a

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<v Speaker 2>Skerritt guy? Anything come to mind in particular? No, not really.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it would probably be that. That's probably the

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<v Speaker 3>one movie. I was a teenager when that movie came out.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember seeing it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Edina Theater, 50s in France. Yeah. Simpler times. Redone again, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's all refurbished.

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<v Speaker 4>Very bougie.

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<v Speaker 2>And pretty again. Very bougie.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've been to it since. That may

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<v Speaker 2>have been the last movie I saw there. That's very possible, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>30 years ago, basically. Wouldn't be all that surprising. But nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think closer to Chief, I think. Tom Skerritt

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<v Speaker 2>was born in Detroit. I don't know how long he

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<v Speaker 2>stayed there. In fact, I think he went at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>even went back there. So he's got some Detroit roots,

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<v Speaker 2>but a heck of a run. And again, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people, if you liked alien, he was very effective

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<v Speaker 2>in that film too, but good TV work, good movie work,

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<v Speaker 2>combo platter, and not a name that you hear people

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<v Speaker 2>talk about all that much, but a reminders we've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about before. You know, a name that I think will

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<v Speaker 2>resonate with people because of the movies that he was in.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether you particularly liked him in them or not, he

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<v Speaker 2>was in a number of, I think, very, very memorable films.

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<v Speaker 2>Gone but not forgotten at the age of 93 years old.

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<v Speaker 2>research from regular listener Brett regarding the homecoming history of

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<v Speaker 2>between the Iowa Hawkeyes and the Golden Gophers here, where

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<v Speaker 2>the Gophers make the Iowa game the homecoming game. Does

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<v Speaker 2>this sound right to you? This will be the 15th

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<v Speaker 2>time the Gophers have hosted Iowa for homecoming. The overall

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<v Speaker 2>record is Gophers 10 wins, Iowa 4 wins. But here's

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<v Speaker 2>what's interesting. He claims the most recent game was was

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<v Speaker 2>a decisive Hawkeyes win in 48-31 in 2018. More importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>the last time Minnesota won at home at the expense

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<v Speaker 2>of Iowa on homecoming day was 1974. I can see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that sound right? Yeah, I can see that. Gophers, 23. Hawkeyes, 17.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's more than a minute. Well, I wonder how

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<v Speaker 2>many in between those two Iowa was the homecoming. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>guessing it wasn't a lot. Probably not a lot. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>guessing maybe a lot of these, if it's 15 times over,

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<v Speaker 2>or this will be the 15th, a bunch of them

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<v Speaker 2>were much earlier in college football history for these two teams. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that is my hunch as well. That's what's interesting. But,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, 74. That's, you know, basically, well, we're at

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<v Speaker 2>52 years?

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<v Speaker 1>52 years, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So it'll be a good opportunity to kind of rectify that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned, or we spent a lot of time on

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<v Speaker 2>the Wolves opener, a laugher of victory. Kind of embarrassed,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, the Miami Heat. So after the game, a debate,

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<v Speaker 2>as one might expect, broke out on the ESPN panel,

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<v Speaker 2>formerly TNT panel, that includes, of course, Shaq, Ernie, Charles,

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<v Speaker 2>and Kenny, and Garzy has captured a good little chunk

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<v Speaker 2>of that debate that kind of had, as you said earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>Shaq and Kenny on one side, and Charles often in

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<v Speaker 2>the role of skeptic, playing a little bit of skeptic here,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think making a fairly decent and fair point.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's listen to their conversation from last night postgame.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, listen, Anthony Anderson's a made man.

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<v Speaker 8>Anthony Anderson's a blackish.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes. But, no, Anthony Edwards. But I'm saying, don't try

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<v Speaker 4>to sit there and tell me just because Melo had

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<v Speaker 4>one good game, he just goes to the top of

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<v Speaker 4>the list.

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 4>He can play.

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<v Speaker 2>Melo can play.

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<v Speaker 4>He can play.

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<v Speaker 2>But Melo was doing this in Charlotte. He was number

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<v Speaker 2>two in three-point shooting last year.

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<v Speaker 4>Hold on for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>You just said three.

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<v Speaker 4>Hours and four or five hours ago, he's never played

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<v Speaker 4>in any meaningful game.

0:23:59.170 --> 0:23:59.730
<v Speaker 2>Meaningful game.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so we're going to see it when it's meaningful.

0:24:01.990 --> 0:24:03.650
<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a good player. He's a good player, but you

0:24:06.010 --> 0:24:06.890
<v Speaker 2>don't get to move him.

0:24:06.830 --> 0:24:08.730
<v Speaker 4>To the front of the line. You don't go right

0:24:08.770 --> 0:24:10.130
<v Speaker 4>to the front of the line after one game.

0:24:10.150 --> 0:24:10.770
<v Speaker 2>I will say this.

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<v Speaker 8>There are certain guys who are looters in the right.

0:24:13.150 --> 0:24:14.930
<v Speaker 8>They get good stuff because they're on the back.

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<v Speaker 4>But you can't say four hours ago he's never played

0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:20.640
<v Speaker 4>in a meaningful game, and then now four hours later,

0:24:20.660 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 4>Ernest Hughes, the best backcourt.

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:22.780
<v Speaker 2>He went from nothing.

0:24:22.859 --> 0:24:24.820
<v Speaker 4>They were playing a meaningful game to the front of

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:27.480
<v Speaker 4>the line. Let me tell you something. Castle and Harper,

0:24:27.500 --> 0:24:28.959
<v Speaker 4>they're at the front of the line right up there

0:24:28.980 --> 0:24:33.300
<v Speaker 4>with Shea and Bonnie Rubble. Whoever Shea's with.

0:24:33.619 --> 0:24:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Whoever Shea's with. Bonnie Rubble.

0:24:35.940 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 4>You know, Fred Flintstone.

0:24:37.619 --> 0:24:38.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell you.

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<v Speaker 4>Anybody who plays with Shea, they're going to be the

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:44.680
<v Speaker 4>best point guards and the best combination guards.

0:24:44.700 --> 0:24:45.859
<v Speaker 2>I'm with Kenny on this one.

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:46.090
<v Speaker 8>Okay.

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 4>We disagree.

0:24:46.980 --> 0:24:47.660
<v Speaker 1>We all have to agree.

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:49.680
<v Speaker 2>How about Luka and Austin Reeves?

0:24:50.790 --> 0:24:56.050
<v Speaker 4>Well, they're not good enough. defensively, I'm saying, it's a

0:24:56.090 --> 0:24:58.470
<v Speaker 4>fair conversation. But I ain't putting it, I can say,

0:24:58.850 --> 0:25:02.190
<v Speaker 4>Shea and anybody they put out there with him, Harper

0:25:02.270 --> 0:25:03.410
<v Speaker 4>and anybody.

0:25:03.430 --> 0:25:04.119
<v Speaker 2>So, hold on.

0:25:04.390 --> 0:25:06.859
<v Speaker 4>The Lakers are not good defensively. The Spurs boys ain't

0:25:06.900 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 4>that good offensively, not defensively. They got to get better offensively.

0:25:09.619 --> 0:25:10.420
<v Speaker 4>We said that, Shaq.

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:10.889
<v Speaker 2>Okay, sir.

0:25:10.900 --> 0:25:14.980
<v Speaker 4>They bring something to the table that you cannot manufacture. Toughness.

0:25:15.300 --> 0:25:17.340
<v Speaker 4>Minnesota got it all. They got the toughest and they

0:25:17.380 --> 0:25:20.619
<v Speaker 4>got the guy that can score. You just said, Melo's

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:22.859
<v Speaker 4>never played in a meaningful game. But he still can play.

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:24.350
<v Speaker 2>I said he can play.

0:25:24.380 --> 0:25:26.530
<v Speaker 4>He can But I'm saying y'all going to go from

0:25:26.550 --> 0:25:28.369
<v Speaker 4>four hours ago, he's never played in a game that

0:25:28.410 --> 0:25:28.950
<v Speaker 4>meant anything.

0:25:28.970 --> 0:25:30.990
<v Speaker 2>No, but you just said the Spurs had a better backcourt.

0:25:31.010 --> 0:25:32.950
<v Speaker 4>They do not have a better backcourt. I said it's

0:25:32.990 --> 0:25:34.190
<v Speaker 4>a conversation to have.

0:25:34.230 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 2>No, but you can't.

0:25:35.100 --> 0:25:39.260
<v Speaker 4>The way you're saying that Shea... The way.

0:25:38.380 --> 0:25:42.780
<v Speaker 8>You're saying Shea and anybody... You could argue Anthony Edwards

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:47.380
<v Speaker 8>and somebody. And then now you put Melo. That is somebody.

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:50.160
<v Speaker 8>That is somebody. That ain't anybody.

0:25:50.290 --> 0:25:52.210
<v Speaker 4>All I said was you just can't move them to

0:25:52.230 --> 0:25:54.429
<v Speaker 4>the front of the line. That's all I'm saying. I

0:25:54.490 --> 0:25:57.050
<v Speaker 4>love Ant and I love Melo. But you just can't

0:25:57.430 --> 0:26:00.449
<v Speaker 4>automatically push them in front of Castle and Harper and

0:26:00.510 --> 0:26:02.890
<v Speaker 4>Shea and Bonnie Rubble.

0:26:02.950 --> 0:26:06.930
<v Speaker 2>Best backcourt in NBA history. It's the panel at its best.

0:26:07.350 --> 0:26:13.020
<v Speaker 2>It really is. Good debate. Good, healthy discussion. It has

0:26:13.060 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 2>that human feel to it, obviously. They catch each other

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:21.440
<v Speaker 2>in contradictions, and they call each other on it, which

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:26.930
<v Speaker 2>is really good. And look, to Shaq's point, two things

0:26:26.970 --> 0:26:30.909
<v Speaker 2>can be true. Just because LaMelo Ball hasn't played in

0:26:30.930 --> 0:26:34.859
<v Speaker 2>that many meaningful games... does not mean that he can't play.

0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:39.409
<v Speaker 2>He can play, but ultimately, how do you prove that

0:26:39.450 --> 0:26:43.810
<v Speaker 2>you can play in the sense that, you know, big

0:26:43.850 --> 0:26:49.060
<v Speaker 2>time ballers think it's in meaningful games. That's how you

0:26:49.190 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 2>cement the notion that you can play. It goes back

0:26:52.580 --> 0:26:56.910
<v Speaker 2>to the circus stuff's nice and it's fun and But

0:26:57.070 --> 0:26:59.730
<v Speaker 2>it's not going to win you anything, so you have

0:26:59.750 --> 0:27:03.050
<v Speaker 2>to show that you have actual skill. I've said this before.

0:27:03.070 --> 0:27:06.830
<v Speaker 2>I've gotten on Johnny about this because I've always liked

0:27:06.850 --> 0:27:10.389
<v Speaker 2>LaMelo Ball as a player. I always felt that he

0:27:10.430 --> 0:27:15.670
<v Speaker 2>was underrated because of this dismissal of, ah, he's playing

0:27:15.690 --> 0:27:17.390
<v Speaker 2>around too much. But part of it for me was, well,

0:27:17.450 --> 0:27:21.230
<v Speaker 2>who's he got around him? I mean, he didn't exactly

0:27:21.290 --> 0:27:24.200
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of greatness around him. And in fact... Again,

0:27:24.260 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 2>we can argue about whether he's an anchor that you

0:27:26.420 --> 0:27:31.620
<v Speaker 2>can build around forever. Because ultimately, Charlotte decided no. Doesn't

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:36.780
<v Speaker 2>mean Charlotte's right, necessarily. And let's remember, starting in September,

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:43.510
<v Speaker 2>in January, they were easily the most efficient offensive team

0:27:43.530 --> 0:27:46.350
<v Speaker 2>in basketball. It wasn't even close. And what did we

0:27:46.430 --> 0:27:49.449
<v Speaker 2>see last night? Efficiency. Now, again, are they always going

0:27:49.470 --> 0:27:52.630
<v Speaker 2>to shoot that well from three? Probably not. But you saw...

0:27:53.150 --> 0:27:55.350
<v Speaker 2>Open shots. You get good looks. That's the whole bit.

0:27:55.369 --> 0:27:58.070
<v Speaker 2>That's all you can do. Too many tough shots for

0:27:58.090 --> 0:28:01.150
<v Speaker 2>the Wolves. We love Mike Conley, but he was past it, right?

0:28:01.630 --> 0:28:04.030
<v Speaker 2>We love Anthony Edwards, but he can't run an offense.

0:28:04.230 --> 0:28:07.730
<v Speaker 2>He never could. Dante DiVincenzo can't run an offense when

0:28:07.750 --> 0:28:13.270
<v Speaker 2>he was healthy. So, to me, the encouraging part is

0:28:13.290 --> 0:28:16.070
<v Speaker 2>you're always early just looking for, what do we have

0:28:16.090 --> 0:28:18.790
<v Speaker 2>in mind here? And you saw it. Already, you saw it.

0:28:19.410 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 2>And Miami, by the way, I don't think Miami's a

0:28:21.430 --> 0:28:25.649
<v Speaker 2>great team. But they've got some interesting pieces on there,

0:28:25.670 --> 0:28:29.030
<v Speaker 2>and they do have some defensive pieces on there as well.

0:28:29.130 --> 0:28:32.450
<v Speaker 2>So we'll see the thing. It is going to be

0:28:32.470 --> 0:28:36.540
<v Speaker 2>the ultimate irony that the debate that broke out, that draft,

0:28:36.900 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 2>who do you take? I was on record as saying

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:42.500
<v Speaker 2>I want LaMelo. Obviously, Anthony Edwards was the right choice

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.459
<v Speaker 2>for the Wolves. But the fact that you now have

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:50.650
<v Speaker 2>both of them in your starting backcourt, still relatively young.

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 2>In both cases. Yeah. A lot of mileage, you could say,

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.380
<v Speaker 2>but relatively young. Here's the other thing we've got to

0:28:56.420 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 2>pay attention to. I didn't talk about this earlier, and

0:29:01.100 --> 0:29:04.500
<v Speaker 2>I meant to, maybe even yesterday. I thought I remember

0:29:04.540 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 2>a quote from Finchie saying, we want to kind of

0:29:08.420 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>keep his minutes, his, meaning LaMelo's, around 30. And that's

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.370
<v Speaker 2>the first time I'd heard him say that out loud.

0:29:17.010 --> 0:29:18.650
<v Speaker 2>Because there was a lot of discussion that part of

0:29:18.690 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 2>his health was In Charlotte, his unusual health last year was,

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I think he averaged 28 minutes a game. Yeah, exactly right.

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.220
<v Speaker 2>He played 29 last night. 30 felt light to me.

0:29:28.420 --> 0:29:30.330
<v Speaker 2>I was assuming you make that kind of big move,

0:29:30.350 --> 0:29:33.310
<v Speaker 2>you got to get it to maybe 35 or 36.

0:29:33.310 --> 0:29:36.370
<v Speaker 2>But it sounds like they're trying to still push the

0:29:36.450 --> 0:29:40.110
<v Speaker 2>notion that less might be more with him. If he,

0:29:40.890 --> 0:29:43.930
<v Speaker 2>We can get him again to, I don't know, 65 games,

0:29:43.930 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 2>70 games, whatever the case may be. But you know

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:48.420
<v Speaker 2>and I know there's going to be nights where you go,

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:50.420
<v Speaker 2>we need LaMelo back out there. Well, how many minutes

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:52.180
<v Speaker 2>is it? Come on, man. You got to push it.

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:53.820
<v Speaker 2>And my guess is there's going to be nights he

0:29:53.860 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 2>plays extra. Maybe it's a process to get there. But

0:29:57.500 --> 0:29:59.180
<v Speaker 2>did you see that quote? Because it's the first time

0:29:59.240 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I'd seen.

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.180
<v Speaker 3>Him mention the 30 number. I don't remember it specifically,

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 3>but I know it's been floated.

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes. We've talked about it.

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:09.060
<v Speaker 3>And the other thing about just the minutes, he had

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:12.380
<v Speaker 3>talked about– how he was going to stagger them with

0:30:12.660 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 3>Anthony Edwards.

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:13.580
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.260
<v Speaker 3>And he did do a lot of staggering last night

0:30:17.220 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 3>where Lamella was on the floor and it wasn't there

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:20.340
<v Speaker 3>and vice versa.

0:30:20.580 --> 0:30:22.380
<v Speaker 2>Cause he had his, he'd also talked about, he likes

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:24.100
<v Speaker 2>the idea of having them both on the floor together,

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:27.140
<v Speaker 2>which an idea I would imagine of games. That's what's

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:28.130
<v Speaker 2>going to happen. And here's the thing.

0:30:28.150 --> 0:30:31.990
<v Speaker 3>He played 29 last night. If the game was close, closer.

0:30:32.030 --> 0:30:32.230
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:30:33.190 --> 0:30:35.790
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that number is going to be like 35

0:30:35.790 --> 0:30:38.090
<v Speaker 3>or 36. That's true. It's not a crazy.

0:30:38.190 --> 0:30:41.610
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think. Do we have an answer on

0:30:41.650 --> 0:30:44.210
<v Speaker 2>why Anthony played as long into the fourth quarter as

0:30:44.250 --> 0:30:46.709
<v Speaker 2>he did? Were they just trying to get him to 50? Maybe.

0:30:46.830 --> 0:30:48.810
<v Speaker 2>Was that it? Yeah, that's the only explanation. Because that

0:30:48.830 --> 0:30:51.090
<v Speaker 2>cost him a technical. And again, you can say that's meaningless,

0:30:51.130 --> 0:30:53.390
<v Speaker 2>but those add up. Yeah, not for Ant. He should

0:30:53.430 --> 0:30:57.070
<v Speaker 2>have been out earlier. Unless it's the old, hey, look,

0:30:57.290 --> 0:30:59.730
<v Speaker 2>this is our unit, core unit. We want them to

0:30:59.750 --> 0:31:01.590
<v Speaker 2>get even more used to one another. I don't know.

0:31:01.950 --> 0:31:04.550
<v Speaker 2>I'd have picked another night. I like the idea in

0:31:04.570 --> 0:31:07.910
<v Speaker 2>a game like that. You've done your job. Whether Anthony

0:31:08.010 --> 0:31:10.550
<v Speaker 2>ends up with 43 or 45 or 47 or 55,

0:31:10.550 --> 0:31:14.670
<v Speaker 2>does it really? He ain't going to get to 70.

0:31:14.670 --> 0:31:17.030
<v Speaker 3>Well, the only thing I could think of was the

0:31:17.090 --> 0:31:18.820
<v Speaker 3>Heat still had a lot of their starters in.

0:31:19.190 --> 0:31:21.660
<v Speaker 2>Oh, did they? I think so. Because I was kind

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 2>of out of it by then, too.

0:31:22.740 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 3>I had given myself load management after they went up

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 3>26 or whatever it was in the fourth.

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:28.620
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:31:29.060 --> 0:31:32.010
<v Speaker 3>And Finchie's probably got PTSD from the second quarter when

0:31:32.030 --> 0:31:33.370
<v Speaker 3>the bench just gave it all back.

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:33.620
<v Speaker 5>Yes.

0:31:34.030 --> 0:31:36.210
<v Speaker 2>Pretty quickly. Well, you know, that was an interesting thing,

0:31:36.250 --> 0:31:37.990
<v Speaker 2>and it would be a decent segue into a little

0:31:38.010 --> 0:31:41.330
<v Speaker 2>bit of Thursday Night Football conversation that I meant to

0:31:41.370 --> 0:31:49.709
<v Speaker 2>talk to Seifert about Tuesday. So the Bears are up

0:31:49.990 --> 0:31:54.660
<v Speaker 2>massively on Atlanta. I believe they built a 31-7 lead

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:59.390
<v Speaker 2>in the fourth quarter. And the Bears decided the game

0:31:59.410 --> 0:32:03.110
<v Speaker 2>was over. Ben Johnson clearly decided the game was over.

0:32:04.690 --> 0:32:07.170
<v Speaker 2>And part of it might well have been his knowledge

0:32:07.210 --> 0:32:10.910
<v Speaker 2>that the Bears are going to play tonight, Thursday night, right?

0:32:11.350 --> 0:32:13.910
<v Speaker 2>So you go from Sunday to Thursday. And in his mind,

0:32:14.020 --> 0:32:17.100
<v Speaker 2>maybe he's going, hey, look, man, I'm going to take

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:20.220
<v Speaker 2>my chances with this thing. We seem to be in control.

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.060
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give my guys some rest because we're

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:29.150
<v Speaker 2>playing primetime Thursday night. Well, what happens within minutes? Atlanta drives, touchdown,

0:32:29.810 --> 0:32:35.580
<v Speaker 2>two-point conversion. Drives, touchdown, two-point conversion. They've got 16 points

0:32:35.620 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 2>on the board. It's a one-score game. It's 31-23, and

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 2>they get the ball back. Now, fortunately for the Bears,

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 2>then their defense did stand tall, and the game ended. But,

0:32:48.010 --> 0:32:51.010
<v Speaker 2>you know, my original thought was like, what are you doing, man?

0:32:51.030 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 2>31-7 is three scores. The game's weird. It's early in

0:32:55.660 --> 0:32:57.470
<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter on the road, but I think I

0:32:57.510 --> 0:33:00.230
<v Speaker 2>kind of understand his method was, if you have this

0:33:00.310 --> 0:33:02.910
<v Speaker 2>schedule that we now have, which includes the possibility of

0:33:02.930 --> 0:33:05.170
<v Speaker 2>playing Thursday Night Football, and this happens to be your week,

0:33:05.830 --> 0:33:08.770
<v Speaker 2>I kind of get why he did it. Because I

0:33:08.810 --> 0:33:12.870
<v Speaker 2>have a hunch that if he was just going to

0:33:12.910 --> 0:33:16.390
<v Speaker 2>play Sunday to Sunday, chances are maybe he had taken

0:33:16.410 --> 0:33:19.350
<v Speaker 2>a couple people. He took basically every starter out of

0:33:19.390 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 2>his defense. Now, maybe that was the mistake. I don't know.

0:33:22.500 --> 0:33:24.740
<v Speaker 2>But it's the sort of thing, the way the schedule

0:33:24.780 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 2>now is set up and the number of games, that coaches,

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.340
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that they can necessarily be blamed for

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>taking a bigger risk. And can you imagine if they'd

0:33:34.590 --> 0:33:35.670
<v Speaker 2>actually lost that game?

0:33:36.110 --> 0:33:36.290
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:33:36.310 --> 0:33:38.090
<v Speaker 2>It'd be devastating to their season.

0:33:38.150 --> 0:33:39.810
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's kind of what happened with the Giants and

0:33:39.850 --> 0:33:42.870
<v Speaker 3>Saints though, right? Yes, that's true. They kind of took

0:33:42.890 --> 0:33:45.190
<v Speaker 3>the pedal off and J.J. McCarthy came in and started

0:33:45.270 --> 0:33:47.590
<v Speaker 3>slinging it. They were in the meat grinder too. And

0:33:47.610 --> 0:33:49.420
<v Speaker 3>I think they had rested some people. Now, you could

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:50.980
<v Speaker 3>argue also with the Saints, like, how do you tell

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 3>the difference between How do you know the difference if

0:33:53.180 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 3>you take your foot off the gas or not?

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 2>But it's always that when do you do it and

0:33:59.820 --> 0:34:00.380
<v Speaker 2>when don't you?

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:04.020
<v Speaker 3>And sometimes I think, especially in the NBA, both sides

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.239
<v Speaker 3>kind of have to be in on it sometimes. Like

0:34:06.270 --> 0:34:07.770
<v Speaker 3>the coaches almost have to look at each other and

0:34:07.790 --> 0:34:08.730
<v Speaker 3>be like, are we ready for this?

0:34:08.770 --> 0:34:09.189
<v Speaker 2>That's true.

0:34:09.210 --> 0:34:12.210
<v Speaker 3>Because in the NBA, you can come back quick. I mean,

0:34:12.230 --> 0:34:14.290
<v Speaker 3>we see it with the 24-second shot clock and the

0:34:14.310 --> 0:34:17.530
<v Speaker 3>three-pointer and the turnovers. I mean, you can come back quickly.

0:34:18.450 --> 0:34:21.219
<v Speaker 3>So I understand the hesitancy if the other team is

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 3>still playing some of their regular guys to not just

0:34:23.430 --> 0:34:25.910
<v Speaker 3>empty your bench, especially if one of them is Baron Jay,

0:34:25.969 --> 0:34:27.360
<v Speaker 3>who was all over.

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.259
<v Speaker 2>The place last night. Yes, it's very true.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got like three minutes left, just so you know.

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<v Speaker 2>We are tight. Okay, good. Well, the other subject we

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<v Speaker 2>should probably explore in a little more detail tomorrow, since

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<v Speaker 2>it's the Friday Football Beast, and we really haven't explored

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<v Speaker 2>it much on this show, is the Troy Aikman kerfuffle.

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<v Speaker 2>there's the intrigue of it, the juiciness of whatever alleged

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<v Speaker 2>arguing was going on between him and his partner. Leave

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<v Speaker 2>that aside for the moment. There's the more general question,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, of, you know, I don't understand negotiations like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there could be a million permutations to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it does surprise me that Aikman is in this

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<v Speaker 2>position at all. In fact, the guy who got the

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<v Speaker 2>most attention, I think, on this was Mike Wilbon. who

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<v Speaker 2>obviously also is ESPN guy, he basically said the guy's

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<v Speaker 2>the gold standard. I mean, what are you doing? And yet,

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<v Speaker 2>at least it sounds more and more as if Aikman's

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<v Speaker 2>on the outside looking in, unless this is all just

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<v Speaker 2>part of the negotiating game. Speaking of Wilbon, happy birthday to,

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<v Speaker 2>pardon the interruption, they celebrated today on air their 25th birthday. Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>25 years of probably as unlikely a partnership on air

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<v Speaker 2>as one could imagine for a national show. Because what

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<v Speaker 2>you have to remember about what sets them apart is

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<v Speaker 2>these are two ink-stained wretches. Legendary. Kornheiser and Wilbon. Both

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<v Speaker 2>ended up most of that time at the Washington Post.

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<v Speaker 2>And the notion that that could translate on air to

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<v Speaker 2>a daily sports show, like they've done, and get anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>and last to the degree it did, I admit, I

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<v Speaker 2>have a soft spot for it because that's where they

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<v Speaker 2>came from. And I do believe part of why they've

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<v Speaker 2>been so good is that beginning. That foundation that they

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<v Speaker 2>set as daily columnists, maybe four or five days a week,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about, going to games, covering games, the whole bit.

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<v Speaker 2>It gave them, I think, that sort of instant credibility.

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<v Speaker 2>It probably doesn't matter anymore. People wouldn't even care about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But then it did matter. And the fact, that's why

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<v Speaker 2>it's worked. They're literate. It's a show that has journalistic

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<v Speaker 2>chops to it, and they argue, and they brawl, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're still...