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Speaker 2: Cincinnati ESPN fifteen thirty. This is Chick Ludwig and I'm
Speaker 2: alongside Bengals legendary offensive lineman Bruce Kozerski, and we're breaking
Speaker 2: down the Bengals loss to the Baltimore Ravens like a
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Speaker 2: Carlin five one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand and Bruce,
Speaker 2: I'd like to take this opportunity to declare the Cincinnati
Speaker 2: Bengals twenty twenty five season d dead on departure at
Speaker 2: pay Course Stadium on Sunday today, bruised, battered, bloodied, and
Speaker 2: not just beaten, but annihilated and shut out for the
Speaker 2: first time in the Joe Burrow era by the Baltimore Bullies.
Speaker 3: Man does to get any worse than this.
Speaker 4: I think you should get your blood pressure up a
Speaker 4: little bit there, chick.
Speaker 2: Maybe have another coffee, Maybe you have another yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is just the moralizing defeat.
Speaker 5: You know, your opposing quarterback, as good as he is,
Speaker 5: completes eight eight passes. He completes eight passes against your defense.
Speaker 5: They went twenty four to nothing. I mean, that shouldn't
Speaker 5: happen in this league. They were only ran for one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty. I mean they say only because they
Speaker 5: put they put up all those points against this We
Speaker 5: moved the ball off to doutfield. But when you got
Speaker 5: the red zone, that the thirty yard line whatever, I
Speaker 5: think we were over three or oh for four down
Speaker 5: there were we and we didn't even get a field
Speaker 5: goal attempt.
Speaker 2: No, no, it was It was bad all the way around.
Speaker 2: And Joe Burrow said this week, well he wants to
Speaker 2: have fun playing football. Well, today was not fun for anybody,
Speaker 2: and that includes the fans. And I've got to give
Speaker 2: a shout out to all the spectators who made it
Speaker 2: down to pay Corpse Stadium today. Ten degrees minus one
Speaker 2: degree Winshield. And we're talking to fans here at Wings
Speaker 2: and Rings and they're telling me who were at the game,
Speaker 2: snow was not removed from the seats.
Speaker 3: So they're upset about that.
Speaker 2: And they weren't allowed to bring cardboard in to stand
Speaker 2: on or sit on to make life a little bit
Speaker 2: more comfortable.
Speaker 5: I don't know about all that. I wasn't there. You
Speaker 5: got more contact with the people that were at the ball. Again,
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just the average retired fans sitting in
Speaker 5: my home watching the game on TV, wondering. And I
Speaker 5: played in cold games like this, I know it takes
Speaker 5: a lot of steam out of a team. It either
Speaker 5: it either fires you up to work through the cold
Speaker 5: when you're successful, or just moralizing when you're not. And
Speaker 5: they had some situations early in that game where they
Speaker 5: moved it, they made some plays, and then all of
Speaker 5: a sudden, we take a sack. You know, that first
Speaker 5: drive was huge. We're in scorefield goal range.
Speaker 4: We take a sack.
Speaker 5: I don't think, I mean, Joe can't make that Play's
Speaker 5: that's when I as an offensive lineman, I remember countless
Speaker 5: times running back to the hell Town Boomer throw the
Speaker 5: damn ball, you know, and it's it's as the aggressive
Speaker 5: offensive lineman that we were, we had a clock in
Speaker 5: our head too, and we never wanted a Boomer to
Speaker 5: get hit. And so what he did it was like,
Speaker 5: we'll throw the damn ball, but it's it's it's a
Speaker 5: catch twenty two because sometimes.
Speaker 4: You throw it and they catch it, and that's that's
Speaker 4: a that's bad.
Speaker 2: The shutout was the Ravens first since crushing the Tennessee
Speaker 2: Titans twenty one to nothing on October fourteen, twenty eighteen. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: the Bengals suffered their first zero since a twenty to
Speaker 2: nothing lost to Baltimore in Cincinnati on September ten, twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: That year's season opener in Baltimore. Improves to seven and seven.
Speaker 2: They're still in the race here in the AFC North,
Speaker 2: while the Bengals with all this talent, falls to four
Speaker 2: and ten and they can never protect the home field.
Speaker 2: They're two and five at pay Course Stadium.
Speaker 5: I don't know that it has much to do with
Speaker 5: it beating the Ravens. I know Joe doesn't have a
Speaker 5: big reund good record against the Ravens. Not many teams
Speaker 5: do over the last uh Lamar Jackson era. But it's
Speaker 5: it's it seems like there's a stat out there. I
Speaker 5: heard today thirty seven percent of the time that Higgins
Speaker 5: and and and Chase and Burrow on the field thirty
Speaker 5: seven concent of time since they've been together. And that's
Speaker 5: that's the sad part. There's there's so much invest in
Speaker 5: those guys and in the franchise that that they got
Speaker 5: us stay healthy. We got to find a way that
Speaker 5: just keep them healthy. But but at the same time,
Speaker 5: we got to fund the defense too. We gotta we
Speaker 5: gotta put some sub butts on that defense line. We
Speaker 5: gotta put some young linebackers, a couple. They played well
Speaker 5: today at times and then they played badly at times.
Speaker 5: You know, that's what you get with a young group.
Speaker 2: Two Joe Burrow interceptions, several drop passes, horrible horrible clock
Speaker 2: management by head coach Zach Taylor, and the usual defensive
Speaker 2: breakdowns helped cause Cincinnati's poorest.
Speaker 3: Performance not just this year but in years.
Speaker 2: And man, it spoils the return. May I say of
Speaker 2: Jeff Blake as the ruler of the jungle, He's a
Speaker 2: friend of mine. He was a great player here, Uh
Speaker 2: never appreciated and uh just man, it's just sickening to
Speaker 2: watch the Bengals fall twenty four to nothing.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, you know they were they were down by
Speaker 5: a significant margin there early in the late and the
Speaker 5: third and early and the fourth, and they just kept
Speaker 5: taking their thirty five forty seconds to snap the ball,
Speaker 5: and I kept wondering, when they're gonna pick this up.
Speaker 5: They got to get three or four, but they gotta
Speaker 5: get three possessions. And then they were down a fourth
Speaker 5: possession and then they said it was over. We're just
Speaker 5: gonna run. And they still kept telling the guys. I
Speaker 5: was watching the game with my boys that that's that's
Speaker 5: five runs in a row.
Speaker 4: Six minutes to go in the game, that's five runs
Speaker 4: in a row.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know when when they ran the ball, they
Speaker 2: should have been passing. When they passed the ball, they
Speaker 2: should have been running.
Speaker 3: It's when you.
Speaker 2: Get when you get into a second and a third
Speaker 2: and short, I mean run the football.
Speaker 5: Deception is your is your enemy. When you think it's
Speaker 5: your friend, you know, you think you can run that
Speaker 5: ball on that fourth and two and you'll get it.
Speaker 5: Because they think you're gonna throw it and you don't.
Speaker 5: It looks bad when your your money guys are your
Speaker 5: quarterback and your receiver.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that's your money. That's your money backs.
Speaker 2: And especially with the Zach Taylor, it's his religion to
Speaker 2: throw the ball first and not run it.
Speaker 5: Jamar Chase targeted sixteen times, ten receptions, one hundred and
Speaker 5: fifteen hundred and twenty yards. Yeah, great day, Yes, but
Speaker 5: who else did you know you had you had Tyler Hudson,
Speaker 5: Hudson get five catches or four catches?
Speaker 4: Who else? Who else stepped up today to help help out? Uh?
Speaker 5: Not Yosebash. You know what happens. No, not Yoshi Vash.
Speaker 5: You know what happens on those cold days. Those gloves
Speaker 5: that tackified gloves, they get almost slicked because they're so cold.
Speaker 4: They're like they're frozen. And I don't know why.
Speaker 5: There has to be something that they can make a
Speaker 5: cold weather glove or whatever, because you could see clearly
Speaker 5: that both teams had a problem with that. Early the
Speaker 5: one flipped off and Chase's hands and they intercepted. And
Speaker 5: then the very next possession, Lamar throws one and it
Speaker 5: flips off the receiver's hands and we intercepted it.
Speaker 4: So you don't see much of that.
Speaker 6: Later.
Speaker 5: You saw the drop Tinsley in the end zone. The
Speaker 5: ball should have been caught. You saw the drop by
Speaker 5: Yoshi Vash. You should have been caught. And that seems
Speaker 5: to be repeat offense there for him.
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Speaker 3: Come on out. Bruce Kezerski and I are here till
Speaker 3: eight thirty tonight.
Speaker 4: And we made it.
Speaker 5: The weather cleared up beautifully for the show. It's not
Speaker 5: even cold in here.
Speaker 3: I'll admit I was a little panicky last night.
Speaker 2: I was at the studio, had to drive back to
Speaker 2: the Miamisburg War Room.
Speaker 3: It was ugly.
Speaker 2: It took me two hours, and I was worried about today.
Speaker 4: I don't doubt it.
Speaker 5: I family over the house for a Christmas party, and
Speaker 5: I was worried about them.
Speaker 4: Even getting home.
Speaker 2: Hey, I appreciate the fan. Tyler from Union coming up
Speaker 2: wanting a picture your first picture.
Speaker 4: Of the sea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, first first photo of the season.
Speaker 3: Usually it's the Bengals city.
Speaker 5: You know, how wack and photo Jedek you were, Oh
Speaker 5: my gosh, yeah, it almost broke.
Speaker 3: It broke his camera.
Speaker 2: Phone, no doubt. But a shout out to Bristol and Brinley,
Speaker 2: who are our servers today. Fantastic appreciate damn. I appreciate
Speaker 2: all the fans coming out here in Union, Kentucky.
Speaker 3: First first time I've been here. So it's nice out here.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Bigs and Rings is absolutely awesome. And is
Speaker 2: there a more misleading stat in football? Bruce Kazerski than
Speaker 2: time of possession? The Bengals hauled the ball for nearly
Speaker 2: forty minutes to twenty, doubling Baltimore's but Baltimore had all
Speaker 2: the big plays in this game. The Bengals had some
Speaker 2: great drives. They could not finish, They couldn't get they
Speaker 2: couldn't convert on third downs. They converted a couple fourth
Speaker 2: downs at the big time crunch time, but could not
Speaker 2: get into the end zone.
Speaker 4: All right, So.
Speaker 5: Logically, you got to go into a game plan, any
Speaker 5: game plan, but especially one where you're playing a high
Speaker 5: scoring or an offense with Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry.
Speaker 5: You got you got to own the clock. Yes, if
Speaker 5: you have any chance at all, you got to own
Speaker 5: the clock. Then you got to not have any turnovers. Well,
Speaker 5: that didn't go so well. They had two turnovers. Man,
Speaker 5: the first time they played them, the Ravens turned it
Speaker 5: over five times to us. So again that was a
Speaker 5: difference in the ball game. We ran the clock as
Speaker 5: long as we could, We killed the clock, gave the
Speaker 5: ball as few opportunities as we could. We turned it
Speaker 5: two times in the scoring zone. I so, well, can't
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh.
Speaker 2: The Bengals drive to Baltimore's you know, zero zero, drive
Speaker 2: to the twenty five yard line, and on third and four,
Speaker 2: Joe takes a sack.
Speaker 4: Yeah, do that?
Speaker 3: Got a punt?
Speaker 2: Then the next time, the next drive, they drive to
Speaker 2: Baltimore's twenty nine yard line and then the ball off
Speaker 2: of off hands his hands interception. But what bothered me
Speaker 2: most is that the really, to me, this game was
Speaker 2: lost in the first half.
Speaker 3: Bengals have the ball at the two minute warning of.
Speaker 2: The first half, down seven to nothing, first down at
Speaker 2: their own forty seven, a two yard run by some
Speaker 2: ijp Ryan then two straight incompletions. You can't give them
Speaker 2: the ball back there, and they did. And the next
Speaker 2: thing we know, a lengthy forty two second drive, five plays,
Speaker 2: eighty yards Zay Flowers twenty eight yard pass into the
Speaker 2: end zone from Lamar Jackson. Fourteen to nothing at halftime
Speaker 2: to me, game over.
Speaker 5: You know, we had some big sacks, we had pressure
Speaker 5: on Lamar all day long, but when it came right
Speaker 5: down to it, we didn't get good enough coverage in
Speaker 5: the secondary.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not sure.
Speaker 5: I don't want to point fingers to any one of
Speaker 5: those guys, but the disconnection between the linebackers and the
Speaker 5: secondary is killing us. In the passing game, sometimes we
Speaker 5: have pass rush. Sometimes you don't have pass rush. It
Speaker 5: sounds like you never know what you're gonna get here,
Speaker 5: you know, you open it up like a box of chocolates.
Speaker 5: You open up, you never know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go out through the phones. Do we have
Speaker 2: Matt in Springfield?
Speaker 7: I mean, what's going on is always shit?
Speaker 8: How you doing?
Speaker 9: Man?
Speaker 3: Oh good? Man good? What is on your mind?
Speaker 4: Matt?
Speaker 9: Oh Man?
Speaker 7: I mean other than watching the Bengals bungalize another game? Bro,
Speaker 7: Like they didn't even look like they even wanted to
Speaker 7: even show up at that game of the day. That's how
Speaker 7: apathetic they look like. You said the time of possession
Speaker 7: was out of whack, because I mean they were just
Speaker 7: milking the cloth, like I don't know what they were doing.
Speaker 7: They weren't really, I don't know. This season has been
Speaker 7: cursed from the get go, and it's just it's truly
Speaker 7: sad how we are wasting Joe Burrow's career. Well, I
Speaker 7: should say, weave the organization. I mean, think about it.
Speaker 7: He turns thirty for no year, he didn't turn thirty, right,
Speaker 7: so I mean, yeah he went there in age yeah
Speaker 7: point not okay, yea, So he turns thirty next year,
Speaker 7: But I mean how many more? I mean, well, I
Speaker 7: can't really say anything because I mean, look at Philip Rivers,
Speaker 7: forty four years old. He's out here in the ball
Speaker 7: but I mean he's still he's not getting any younger.
Speaker 10: I mean, it's just.
Speaker 7: I don't know what to do with this team anymore.
Speaker 7: I think, honestly though, that there needs to be a
Speaker 7: change with the coach. Head coach zag Taylor is a
Speaker 7: nice guy and all, but we need to get a
Speaker 7: fresh face in there, because it's apparent that whatever Zach
Speaker 7: Tannler has brought to the table as officially.
Speaker 10: Ran his team.
Speaker 7: This is what the third season in a row of
Speaker 7: no playoffs?
Speaker 4: So correct.
Speaker 9: I don't know what else to do. I think they
Speaker 9: need to just this is.
Speaker 2: How quick and then, Matt, this is how quick an
Speaker 2: NFL career goes. This is already Joe's sixth season. He's
Speaker 2: twenty nine years old. They are wasting his talent. We've
Speaker 2: got to run. Hey, we got to run. I appreciate
Speaker 2: the call. Do we have Trey and eaton.
Speaker 11: Kicks there? How you doing?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: Home to the Eagles? What's going on?
Speaker 11: Absolutely? The homeown Eagles.
Speaker 2: I just want to say the uh the.
Speaker 12: What Joe Joe was They were trying to say where
Speaker 12: he uh didn't want to come?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: All right, okay? Do we have Bryce in Cincinnati?
Speaker 4: My man?
Speaker 3: Bryce? And Anderson? Hey, Chick, I mean all right, Bryce,
Speaker 3: something next?
Speaker 2: You know what? Hang on a second, Bryce, Hang on
Speaker 2: a second. I'm telling Bruce Kazerski that Bryce, my buddy
Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati is the next Lance McAllister?
Speaker 4: Oh is that right? Yes? Nice to be right, Bryce.
Speaker 11: Well Bruce.
Speaker 13: Bruce, we've met before that baseball game.
Speaker 4: Is that who you are?
Speaker 14: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yes, all right? I think Chickster met you too, didn't he?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 10: He did?
Speaker 4: All right? All right?
Speaker 3: Bryce? What's on your mind?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 13: I mean the defense was giving the Bengals opportunities early
Speaker 13: and just they entered the Baltimore's possession, there's a five
Speaker 13: times does zero points came out of it? Horrible offense
Speaker 13: and just pick six during your early red zone trips.
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, so much.
Speaker 2: The coverage, well, the coverage was good in the beginning
Speaker 2: of this game, and then they decide to blitz and
Speaker 2: what happened. Yeah, Rashen Ali on a screen pass Toast
Speaker 2: thirty yards untouched, seven and nothing Baltimore.
Speaker 4: That's Toast. Yeah.
Speaker 5: The game plan originally was well, it worked, worked well,
Speaker 5: we went we went right down the field. Timely mistakes, Bryce,
Speaker 5: You know how that goes you in any in any sports,
Speaker 5: you're playing a timely mistake. You know, your boot a ball,
Speaker 5: ground ball, there should be a throwing an out right,
Speaker 5: it's not, and all of a sudden it's snowballs offense
Speaker 5: or defensively against you.
Speaker 4: Same thing happened today. They had possis they took a sack.
Speaker 5: The next time they went down there, they threw that
Speaker 5: pick that bounced off Chase his hands and uh and.
Speaker 4: After that, I just I don't think he had enough.
Speaker 5: Any any receivers really work hard enough to get open
Speaker 5: if you if you can, if you can look at
Speaker 5: the way that win when he dropped back to pass
Speaker 5: all those times it was Jamar, it was Hudson or nobody.
Speaker 2: And which no Bengals victory is winning going away.
Speaker 3: Nothing is ever easy.
Speaker 2: And the yardage oh second, one yard, one yard seemed
Speaker 2: like a trip to the orthodonist for this team.
Speaker 5: It is unbelievable when you're when your running backs have
Speaker 5: so many checkdown receptions for two yard games, you're not
Speaker 5: gonna win ball games. You know, you appreciate them bailing
Speaker 5: the offense out with a two yard reception, but they're
Speaker 5: getting whacked and they're not getting any positive yardage.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not I'll check what during the next.
Speaker 5: Break exactly how many yards the received the running backs
Speaker 5: out of the backfield. Uh, because they had one hundred
Speaker 5: yards total rushing. But receptions is what I'm referring to,
Speaker 5: is Joe having to check down Chase Brown had seven
Speaker 5: receptions for thirty seven yards. Tyler Hudson had three receptions
Speaker 5: for sixteen yards, Tinsley one for sixteen. You know sample two.
Speaker 5: They're they're, they're, they're all All those tight end running
Speaker 5: back routes are checkdown routes. And because there's not anything
Speaker 5: down the field when they double cover Chase and there's
Speaker 5: no Higgins to spread the defense, you gotta have a
Speaker 5: Yoshivash or Tinsley get open down the field.
Speaker 4: And they're just not getting it done.
Speaker 2: Hey, if we've reached the top of the hour, break,
Speaker 2: half hour down, two and a half hours to go,
Speaker 2: five point three, seven, four, nine, seven hundred. The big
Speaker 2: one are the numbers to dial. I've got my coffee,
Speaker 2: I've got my computer. Bruce has his soda and his
Speaker 2: cell phone.
Speaker 4: I got it.
Speaker 3: All we need is.
Speaker 2: You once again at I've won three seven, four nine
Speaker 2: seven one eight hundred.
Speaker 4: The big one.
Speaker 2: The Bengals get shut out by the Baltimore Ravens the
Speaker 2: first time since the twoenty seventeen season opener That was
Speaker 2: twenty enough into Baltimore at pay Course Stadium. This is
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Speaker 4: This is where the Orange and Black.
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Speaker 2: Bruce Kazerski, and we're breaking down the Bengals twenty four
Speaker 2: to zern shutout loss to the Baltimore Ravens like a
Speaker 2: wrecking ball. And just as a quick aside, here Bruce
Speaker 2: watching the monitors and watching Philip Rivers at.
Speaker 3: Age forty four. How crazy is that.
Speaker 2: That this dude is playing.
Speaker 5: It's amazing And five years out of retirement, he's on
Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame, and he was on the Hall
Speaker 5: of Fame list for final voting, and now he's got
Speaker 5: to come off of because he's back active again. Yes,
Speaker 5: we hope someday to see Joe play in his thirties.
Speaker 5: Oh man, Yeah, because right now it's it's questionable. He's
Speaker 5: getting beaten battered. Today was decent. They had good protection most.
Speaker 4: Of the night.
Speaker 5: But yeah, the thing about this whole situation is you
Speaker 5: have a window when you have a franchise era type
Speaker 5: player like they do, and they got a couple of them,
Speaker 5: they're all going to get old together. And when that happens,
Speaker 5: it's it's disappointing because you it's an opportunity. Now what happens,
Speaker 5: you gotta go through the whole rebuilding process again.
Speaker 4: You know, that's the question you have with with the staff.
Speaker 5: Do you change the staff because they're so in tuned
Speaker 5: with Joe and Jamar and and all those guys like
Speaker 5: to do offensively, or do you force something to happen
Speaker 5: defensively because whatever you're doing on that side of the
Speaker 5: ball is not working.
Speaker 2: They're going to have to draft heavy defense and add
Speaker 2: some players in free agency.
Speaker 5: Well, they're gonna have some money back because they're not
Speaker 5: gonna worry about paying uh Hendrix. But I don't know
Speaker 5: that that's the best thing either. You lose a great
Speaker 5: pass rusher like that. Now, we've had some really good
Speaker 5: play in the last few weeks out of Osai, and
Speaker 5: today it.
Speaker 3: Was Miles Murphyles Murphy stepped up.
Speaker 5: To but is it gonna be consistent? If it's gonna
Speaker 5: be consistent, then we're okay with it.
Speaker 2: Let's go out to the phones. Is Mike and Indiana
Speaker 2: with us?
Speaker 10: Sure?
Speaker 4: How are you all right? Mike?
Speaker 3: What's on your mind?
Speaker 9: A liquid?
Speaker 15: Is that my I got? I was talking to my
Speaker 15: buddy Joe from Bridgeton new calls here a lot, and
Speaker 15: we call it every single time. And this is back
Speaker 15: in the Super Bowl when they win. Every single time
Speaker 15: that the Bengals need to score to win or to
Speaker 15: tie it, Joe Burrow chokes and gets picked off every
Speaker 15: single time. And I guess we've been saying that for
Speaker 15: years and everyone's been saying, oh, that's not true. Joe
Speaker 15: Burrows the greatest whatever. But why is it when when
Speaker 15: they lose, like you said earlier today, when you can't
Speaker 15: take a sack in the red zone, a quarterback autoo
Speaker 15: by Now, why isn't anyone ever going to Joe and
Speaker 15: be like, dude, it's not the defense, it's you that's
Speaker 15: losing the games for us.
Speaker 5: Well, I want to go back to the Carson Palmer era.
Speaker 5: They were as good offensively as there was in the league.
Speaker 5: They were playing Pittsburgh in the playoff game and Carson
Speaker 5: got hit early in that game by a defensive tackle
Speaker 5: that you should play for Cincinnati, yes, and blew is
Speaker 5: acl out and he came back and he had the
Speaker 5: same arm, he had the same reading, he was reading
Speaker 5: the defense of the same but he was not the
Speaker 5: same player, you know, And this is what's gonna happen
Speaker 5: if they don't win ball games on the defensive side
Speaker 5: of the ball. You know, for years when we had
Speaker 5: the previous coach, we won games defensively seventeen thirteen or
Speaker 5: fifteen to ten. You know that's not gonna happen with
Speaker 5: this group. We have to outscore everybody, so we have
Speaker 5: to go for the jugular on nearly every drive. And
Speaker 5: when you do that, you're putting the guy in the
Speaker 5: position to get beat up. And there's only so much
Speaker 5: physically that the guy could take on before he gets
Speaker 5: jittery and nervous feet. You know, I just I'm defending
Speaker 5: the guy because I've seen it happen over and over
Speaker 5: and over.
Speaker 4: It's a cyclical thing.
Speaker 5: And if they can get him back on track for
Speaker 5: the start of the next year, finish this year strong,
Speaker 5: and start next year and keeping healthy, they got a
Speaker 5: chance to save what you're looking at right now, because
Speaker 5: you know, you can't defend the tip balls. The tip
Speaker 5: ball that happened today, the tip the screen pass, or
Speaker 5: he read that defense perfect. Last week. He threw the
Speaker 5: ball we're supposed to throw it. It just didn't get
Speaker 5: it over the guy's head. If you're watching the UH
Speaker 5: the Lions Rams game. UH, they Rams did the same
Speaker 5: thing and and Hutchinson picked it off, ran seventy seventy
Speaker 5: yards down inside the twenty yard line for the UH
Speaker 5: for the Lions. So that happens to all the great
Speaker 5: quarterbacks at some time. These defensive ends are taller and
Speaker 5: taller and taller. You have to you have to bridge
Speaker 5: all of that with giving him time to get his
Speaker 5: body healthy again.
Speaker 11: I don't appreciate the call.
Speaker 15: I don't think Yeah, I don't think Ball is gonna
Speaker 15: be with Cincinnati in two years. I think he he
Speaker 15: made a point to the fans, going, I'm too competitive
Speaker 15: for this organization.
Speaker 2: You all ain't winning.
Speaker 15: This defense is not gonna get good for the next
Speaker 15: two years. And I'm not waiting another two years for
Speaker 15: a rebuild. I'm almost thirty. I'm out of here, and
Speaker 15: you guys will get.
Speaker 2: And you want.
Speaker 15: They cost the money, It doesn't matter you're they're the lowest.
Speaker 15: The Cincinnati Bengals are the lowest paid organization in football.
Speaker 15: There's thirty one other quins that can pay better than
Speaker 15: what they're and.
Speaker 2: So that is incorrect.
Speaker 3: That's incorrect.
Speaker 2: Every team has to pay at least eighty percent of
Speaker 2: the salary cap. So they are at the salary cap.
Speaker 2: So and they're paying their offensive players they.
Speaker 4: Need, they're paying some defensive players.
Speaker 2: They're going to get rid of the the twenty nine
Speaker 2: million that we're getting fleeced by Trey Hendrickson four. That's
Speaker 2: going to be off the books. They've got to get
Speaker 2: more defensive players.
Speaker 4: And with that, they lost a couple of good safeties
Speaker 4: two years ago.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right, guys. We appreciate the call. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much. Let's move on. Bob in Houston, Bob.
Speaker 16: Hey Fellas a first of all, appreciate you guys taking
Speaker 16: my call. Yes, sir a, I'm just kind of curious,
Speaker 16: so when we're really going to have some serious conversation
Speaker 16: about what really need to be discussed, and that's what
Speaker 16: the coaching change. Uh you know, it's it's time and
Speaker 16: time again. And and chimp, you just mentioned it earlier
Speaker 16: about the time management. I don't I don't know his
Speaker 16: skills as far as making halftime a judgments.
Speaker 4: I guess he is, but uh but it.
Speaker 16: Sure doesn't it sure doesn't show, you know, when they
Speaker 16: come out in the second half.
Speaker 4: So well, I don't you know, everybody.
Speaker 16: Everybody talks about what a great guy act is, and
Speaker 16: I agree, you know, a good a good dude, but
Speaker 16: you know, hey, it's time to move on this guy's bottoms.
Speaker 16: We're just not getting it done.
Speaker 3: Bob Is.
Speaker 2: The first half was unfolding today. All I could think
Speaker 2: of is when you think of the AFC North with
Speaker 2: the bad weather in November and December and January, you
Speaker 2: think of a physical division, the ability to run the football,
Speaker 2: and it's not in Zach Taylor's religion.
Speaker 3: He wants to throw it first.
Speaker 5: We had a one hundred yards rushing today. That is
Speaker 5: not a little thing against that defense. It's not a
Speaker 5: little thing. But what we're missing is the guys dropping balls,
Speaker 5: the guys that you know not making that big block,
Speaker 5: or when you have the ball for forty minutes in
Speaker 5: the ball game and the opposing quarterback only throws eight completions,
Speaker 5: you know, eight out of twelve, Lamar Jackson eight for twelve,
Speaker 5: you should not lose twenty four to nothing.
Speaker 2: And last week eight of ten on third down conversions,
Speaker 2: today three of fifteen. They were better on fourth down
Speaker 2: than third down three out of five on fourth down.
Speaker 5: The conversation about the staff you can't come out in
Speaker 5: public unless you're ready to make a change.
Speaker 4: In the mid season.
Speaker 5: And the one thing that's not on that staff the
Speaker 5: long list of coaches that can be head coached someplace else.
Speaker 5: So if you remove Zack now in the middle of
Speaker 5: the season, you're shutting down the offense because he's calling
Speaker 5: the plays.
Speaker 4: And who do you turn it over to?
Speaker 5: Who has the interim head coach until you make the
Speaker 5: decisions the off season? And the Bengals don't do that,
Speaker 5: but maybe once in the entire franchise history. And I
Speaker 5: can't believe for a second that there hasn't been discussion
Speaker 5: at the Brown holiday dinner table about just that.
Speaker 4: Thank you, that's a very good point.
Speaker 16: I just do you think that you might be considered
Speaker 16: in the offseason or are we just going to hang on?
Speaker 5: I think that's an executive decision that that you and
Speaker 5: I will not be invited to to to attend. But
Speaker 5: I'd be willing to bet that they are having that
Speaker 5: discussion on a daily basis. What do we do, What
Speaker 5: do we do with this franchise? Where are we going
Speaker 5: to take this? They all know we have to get
Speaker 5: help defensively. I guarantee it They're not dummies. They've been
Speaker 5: doing football for their entire life. Everybody in that family. Uh,
Speaker 5: Duke Tobin maybe on chopping block. You know, if he
Speaker 5: doesn't uh for some miracle have a defense as in
Speaker 5: the last three weeks, is going to come out of No.
Speaker 5: But I think the decisions are already.
Speaker 4: Made, Bob.
Speaker 2: And one of my favorite Mike Brown stories is I
Speaker 2: am in his apartment at Georgetown College during training camp.
Speaker 2: We're discussing Corey Dillon, we're discussing other players.
Speaker 3: The phone rings on the end table.
Speaker 2: He moves, He gets up, picks it up and says, oh, hi, Punky,
Speaker 2: meaning his daughter Chick was just leaving. So that was
Speaker 2: my cue to get out of there. So but you're right,
Speaker 2: Bruce is right. We're not going to be invited to
Speaker 2: that conversation, but you know it will get mentioned in
Speaker 2: this offseason, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3: And we appreciate the call. And we've got a break.
Speaker 2: You are listening to the tri Stage Chevy Dealer's post
Speaker 2: game sports talk. He's Bruce Kazerski, this is Chick Ludwig.
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Speaker 2: just Chick Ludwig. Awesome to be with you today, man.
Speaker 2: Twenty four to nothing. The Bengals get smoked at home
Speaker 2: by the Baltimore Ravens and at four and ten, two
Speaker 2: and five at home. Bengals are out of the playoffs
Speaker 2: and gosh, can they even play spoiler because they've got
Speaker 2: Miami next week, got Miami and then the Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 2: at home and then the Cleveland Browns at home.
Speaker 5: No, man, it's uh yeah, it would be low impact games. Yes,
Speaker 5: it might be important for guys on this ball club though,
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, because guys are playing for their future.
Speaker 3: It really is. Yes, they're playing for their jobs.
Speaker 4: This is that.
Speaker 5: This is the old expression, what do you do when
Speaker 5: no one's watching? Because no one's watching in terms of
Speaker 5: the playoff race, So the large part of the country
Speaker 5: zoned out, But the people in Cincinnati, the organization are
Speaker 5: fine tuned on what's happening for every player on that
Speaker 5: field right now.
Speaker 3: Every move is every move is being scrutinized absolutely.
Speaker 2: How you carry yourself, how you play, and uh, do
Speaker 2: you want it the desire?
Speaker 4: You can't.
Speaker 5: You can't be the guy off that jumped off the
Speaker 5: train and and quit on this team because that's the
Speaker 5: fastest way out of it, not only not only the Bengals,
Speaker 5: but out of the NFL.
Speaker 4: Correct.
Speaker 2: Yes we uh a line from Jim Lippencott, former personnel
Speaker 2: boss of the Bengals. Uh rings in my ears all
Speaker 2: the time. You don't quit the NFL. The NFL quits you.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: And the wide receiver that just got released third round
Speaker 2: draft pick.
Speaker 3: Last Yes, this was not a flyer.
Speaker 2: This a flyer is Benny Brazil Uh in the seventh round,
Speaker 2: a sprinter on the LSU track team. Okay, that's a flyer.
Speaker 2: This was a third round draft pick. And he's uh,
Speaker 2: he's gone.
Speaker 5: I will I will say check that the professional football
Speaker 5: is one thing, but the money that these guys make
Speaker 5: is another thing. And some of these guys are grown
Speaker 5: men and can handle the responsibility of playing the football
Speaker 5: and pocketing the money, and some guys can't. Some guys
Speaker 5: don't deal with they get the money in their pocket
Speaker 5: that they're they gotta have too much fun.
Speaker 4: They gotta they gotta.
Speaker 5: Go out with their buddies and their they're old chums
Speaker 5: from the neighborhood and they got a party with their
Speaker 5: college flunkys and and before you know it, their career
Speaker 5: is over and they they've just flushed it down the
Speaker 5: toilet by not taking care of their business as a man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jermaine Burton, Uh, if the leaders on this team,
Speaker 2: the Joe Burrows and the T Higgins and Jamar Chase,
Speaker 2: if they couldn't bring him along, then didn't There's.
Speaker 4: There's no help for him, no hope for him.
Speaker 5: Especially you know when you are that guy with that
Speaker 5: kind of ability and you've got Jamar Chase and T
Speaker 5: Higgins in front of you that have all that have
Speaker 5: both been nicked up from time time and the required
Speaker 5: to step in as a necess necessity to help the
Speaker 5: offense succeed, and your inability to do it because of
Speaker 5: your lack of effort, like a concentration, uh late for everything.
Speaker 5: And then you know it's no surprise they got rid
Speaker 5: of him. Surprise didn't happen sooner?
Speaker 3: Do we still have Mike in Los Angeles?
Speaker 8: Yes, you do.
Speaker 10: Chick and cause thank you, yes, welcome.
Speaker 9: I appreciate it, chicken, cause it sounds like one of
Speaker 9: those little diamond stores down in the Diamond DisCrit Cup
Speaker 9: in New York.
Speaker 10: You know, a little little front or something.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: I'm time, yeah, chick and there you go.
Speaker 17: Kick and cause that's oh yeah, guys. I would like
Speaker 17: to talk about football, but I would prefer not to
Speaker 17: speak about the Bengals right now. I think there's more
Speaker 17: interesting things to talk about when it comes to the NFL. Okay,
Speaker 17: I think the Jags right now, I'm not a big
Speaker 17: Jags fan, but I'm just looking at what's going on,
Speaker 17: and this might be the surprise of the year in
Speaker 17: the NFL.
Speaker 5: I think you're right there. They're right there with the Patriots.
Speaker 5: Patriots lost today, but they're they're a good team.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 5: I think you're right the Jags and the pay and
Speaker 5: the Patriots. And it's kind of like the old guard
Speaker 5: is fading. You know, the Kansas City's out this week,
Speaker 5: Mahomes got hurt again.
Speaker 4: Got hurt this time. Allan is fading.
Speaker 5: I mean, their team's wins, but they're down twenty one
Speaker 5: points before they start to play.
Speaker 2: You always.
Speaker 11: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Club ahead.
Speaker 4: Very well quarterback.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I look at the Bills last week and then
Speaker 9: uh with the with the way uh Alan brought him
Speaker 9: back against our club, and then how he did it
Speaker 9: again today. It's like, can you always be just a
Speaker 9: second but you can't successfully win a Super Bowl with
Speaker 9: it's just a second half team, can't you?
Speaker 5: Cause no, I don't think. I don't think that you can.
Speaker 5: I know that everything averages out. I'm a I'm an
Speaker 5: odds kind of guy. An offensive an offensive unit, defensive unit.
Speaker 5: They're gonna have good plays, You're gonna have bad plays.
Speaker 5: It seems like everything Buffalo does is horrible in the
Speaker 5: first half and lights out in the second half. And
Speaker 5: and I don't see how that can continue.
Speaker 4: U But uh you know they're they're thinking they can
Speaker 4: prove it to us.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 9: It appears I'm driving their coach absolutely out of his mind.
Speaker 11: Probably mcdarmott, I would he's driving him.
Speaker 9: But these h That's all I had, Guys, I just
Speaker 9: wanted to get your opinions on that. These two games
Speaker 9: that are on right now are pretty good. The Rams
Speaker 9: in the Denver Bronco's pretty good game. Well, you know,
Speaker 9: two different games. But anyway, thank you guys. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you all right, Mike, and Uh, as you leave
Speaker 2: us here, wanted to let you know that, uh, the
Speaker 2: University of Dayton starguard from way back when Johnny Davis
Speaker 2: was a stud for the Portland Trailblazers. He came back
Speaker 2: to town and he's not only in the Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame University of Dayton's Athletic Hall of Fame, he picked
Speaker 2: up his degree yesterday. So fantastic news. Because Mike always says,
Speaker 2: chick don donnah. Heer from University of Dayton. So uh,
Speaker 2: shout out to Mike there. Hey do we have Mike
Speaker 2: and Cherry Grove?
Speaker 18: Mike, Hey, how you doing a couple of things real fast?
Speaker 18: I think today's game showed how valuable t Higgins this
Speaker 18: is a team, because it seems to me when he's
Speaker 18: not playing, the offense.
Speaker 11: Just doesn't look as good. I don't know how you
Speaker 11: feel about that.
Speaker 4: Uh the other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know it's Mike.
Speaker 11: Uh so go ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: It's like having a fork and a knife at the
Speaker 5: plate at the table.
Speaker 4: You know, you can cut that stake.
Speaker 5: Up with the with the fork if you try real hard.
Speaker 5: And that's what that's what Jamarch is trying to do.
Speaker 5: He's trying to cut the defense all by himself right now.
Speaker 4: And when you put Niggins in there, now you got
Speaker 4: now you got the doing set. You can do whatever
Speaker 4: you want with them.
Speaker 5: And that that's that's the toughest, maybe the toughest duo
Speaker 5: in the NFL. And that makes that makes everybody underneath better.
Speaker 5: It makes those tight ends better. It makes the room
Speaker 5: for for Chase the running back better, because right now
Speaker 5: there was no room for him today.
Speaker 11: I agree, Mike a. Secki.
Speaker 10: Of course he was hurt for a little bit. When
Speaker 10: I watched him.
Speaker 18: Play, first second quarter, he's making catches, he's looking great,
Speaker 18: and then all of a sudden, I don't see him going.
Speaker 11: To him anymore.
Speaker 10: And Mike, do you feel that way too?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: One catch for eleven yards in a sixty minute game.
Speaker 4: So he disappeared.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 5: Also, what wasn't made me mentioned or noticed was fant
Speaker 5: got nicked up early in that game and didn't play.
Speaker 5: And Fan and Hudson on the two blocking tight ends.
Speaker 5: Fan is a blocking tight end. It's often a good receiver.
Speaker 5: And so you lost a lot of the blocking purposes
Speaker 5: and in the second's more of the receiving kind of
Speaker 5: tight end. So you lose that candle blockhom Skill.
Speaker 2: Hey Mike, we've got to run. We've reached the we've
Speaker 2: reached the bottom of the hour break. Thank you so
Speaker 2: much for the call. You're listening to the Tri State
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Speaker 4: He's Bruce Kazerski, this is Chick Ludwig.
Speaker 2: Bengals fall to the Baltimore Ravens today, twenty four to nothing,
Speaker 2: first time they've been shut out since the twenty seventeen
Speaker 2: opener at home by against the Baltimore Raveni. Joe Flacco,
Speaker 2: Joe Flatt, Yes, incredible, but I love that bumper music.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The NFL Films. John Facenda, the voice of God, I
Speaker 3: love it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, think about all the games played between that
Speaker 5: one and this one, you know, and this offense should
Speaker 5: never get shut out.
Speaker 4: I don't care.
Speaker 5: I don't care what defense they're playing, the eighty five Bears,
Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh Steelers from seventy five.
Speaker 4: There's no way this offense should get shut out.
Speaker 5: And so we've heard conversation about on the phone calls
Speaker 5: today about lucking uninspired.
Speaker 4: And you know, I watched the game.
Speaker 5: I did not see that until until there was seven
Speaker 5: eight minutes left to go, and they gave me and
Speaker 5: they ran six straight running plays. Now they were down
Speaker 5: at that point pretty good at twenty four to nothing,
Speaker 5: but you got it still you gotta try to score.
Speaker 5: It just looks so bad. That's why some of these
Speaker 5: games that they haven't they've lost and only get gotten
Speaker 5: three points.
Speaker 4: At least they got three points something.
Speaker 5: There's pride in there and some that last seven eight
Speaker 5: minutes was kind of just laying down.
Speaker 2: Looking at the miscellaneous statistics report.
Speaker 3: The Ravens had. Now they only had the ball.
Speaker 2: Fortes okay to the Bengals forty, but eight plays of
Speaker 2: twenty two plus yards eight plays Bengals two a thirty
Speaker 2: four yard pass to Jamar Chase in a twenty seven
Speaker 2: yard pass to Jamar Chase.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 5: Over twenty yards Henry. Henry had a couple of long runs.
Speaker 5: The other running back had a couple of long runs.
Speaker 5: I think Jamar only ran the ball twice today, but
Speaker 5: he had a couple of big first down runs.
Speaker 4: They had pressure on him a lot.
Speaker 5: But when you don't defend the run well enough, one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty yards rushing and twenty minutes fifty yards
Speaker 5: rushing in twenty minutes is.
Speaker 3: And only eight pass and only completerday pass? Is that unbelievable?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, let's go out to the phones. Do
Speaker 2: we still have Jim and Milford?
Speaker 4: Am?
Speaker 11: I'm here?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: What's Jim?
Speaker 19: Well, Bengals have ruined my Christmas and they're starting to
Speaker 19: ruin like every Sunday.
Speaker 11: I'm today.
Speaker 19: I took it really hard and just that you. Yeah, well,
Speaker 19: it's it's a reality, man. I mean, let's listen to
Speaker 19: these teams, La Rams, Seattle Seahawks, Denver Broncos, Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 19: Green Bay Packers. These are organizations that are in it
Speaker 19: every year, right, and it comes from the top down.
Speaker 19: They have the good front office, they've got good scouting,
Speaker 19: they've got good talent, they've got good coaching.
Speaker 4: This Bengal team man.
Speaker 2: About the Pittsburgh Steelers time. They want to run him
Speaker 2: out of town. And he's never had a losing season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Cowboys can't win because they keep changing coaches.
Speaker 5: With all the talents that they have to keep changing coaches.
Speaker 5: So there's nothing stationary, nothing stable. There's no patience in
Speaker 5: the organization.
Speaker 4: Do you hear me?
Speaker 19: The Bengals have cancer. They just from from within. You've
Speaker 19: got you've got an owner that's cheap, that doesn't go
Speaker 19: out and play the free agent market. You've got a
Speaker 19: limited front office. You've got Duke Tobin that doesn't know
Speaker 19: what he's doing.
Speaker 4: You've got you.
Speaker 19: Know, you've got a staff and Zach Taylor that doesn't
Speaker 19: know what they're doing in the draft. You know, you've
Speaker 19: got a quarterback that's not happy.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 19: You've got receivers that keep.
Speaker 11: Dropping the ball.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 19: You know, you've got name other than Trey Henderson, Name
Speaker 19: me one star that's on the defense. They're all they're
Speaker 19: all talentless. They're all they're all like Canadian Football League
Speaker 19: defensive players just a joke.
Speaker 2: I mean, these are some wild jim These are some wild,
Speaker 2: far reaching accusations, umbrella type statements that are simply not true.
Speaker 5: They're not it's it's a it's a statement made out
Speaker 5: of the out of the depression.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 5: But remember that they're not drafting small college football players.
Speaker 5: They're drafting out of Georgia and Alabama and USC and
Speaker 5: U C, l A and LSU. They're drafted the all
Speaker 5: Americans that from across this country, that that proven they
Speaker 5: can play football with the best of them, and something happens,
Speaker 5: we get here and other teams make a play.
Speaker 4: And we don't. I I am. I'm as frustrated as
Speaker 4: you are.
Speaker 5: I play for the organization for twelve seasons and it's
Speaker 5: it is don right frustrating the heck right now because
Speaker 5: they have the talent to win. I was excited to
Speaker 5: go to the Super Bowl three or four years ago
Speaker 5: when they were there. I thought for sure they'd be
Speaker 5: back the next year and the next year and the
Speaker 5: next year. I thought we'd win two Super Bowls under
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow. I'm just doubting right now whether it's going
Speaker 5: to happen without.
Speaker 2: Some kind of change, significant changes or will he become
Speaker 2: a Dan Marine And also went to one Super Bowl
Speaker 2: with two great receivers and Mark Cooper and Mark Clayton. Clayton,
Speaker 2: Yeah so, and they got smoked by the forty nine
Speaker 2: Ers in Stanford Stadium back in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 5: There have been a lot of quarterbacks that get there
Speaker 5: and never win one, right, you know, Buffalo Jim Kelly,
Speaker 5: they were oer for four four years in air own lost.
Speaker 4: Is that incredible? That's incredible you think about that? Yeah,
Speaker 4: just terrible.
Speaker 5: It's there's a lot of a lot of great players
Speaker 5: and for some reason something's missed. I don't know what
Speaker 5: it is. You just you just think that one of
Speaker 5: these days they're going to get it right. Three cracks
Speaker 5: at the super Bowl, two at the forty nine Ers,
Speaker 5: one at the Rams, and they've both escaped late in
Speaker 5: the game. They were all great games. All three of
Speaker 5: them were great games.
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate the call. Let's go to Is it
Speaker 2: Jerry in Indiana? That sounds like a salty from the
Speaker 2: music man?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, I'm not gonna Gary and Madison, Gary and
Speaker 5: Matt Maddison.
Speaker 12: Okay, all right, well you know, uh I heard something
Speaker 12: the other day. And we've had problems with offensive line,
Speaker 12: uh and letting us down ato at crucial times. So
Speaker 12: and you know, calls in induries to Joe Burrow and
Speaker 12: stuff like that, we have got to answer right there
Speaker 12: in Cincinnati.
Speaker 11: That's the worst part about it all. All we have
Speaker 11: to do is go over to UC bearcass.
Speaker 12: They've got the best offensive line evidently in the nation.
Speaker 11: But calls.
Speaker 12: They've only allowed one quarterback sack this past year.
Speaker 3: They allowed the country they allowed more.
Speaker 2: They had some great stretches where they protected Brendan Soresby. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he got sacked a few times in the last game
Speaker 2: here at TCU. But anyway, speaking of the offensive line.
Speaker 12: They were number one in the country allowed sacks a different.
Speaker 2: Level game or not, but you know, different level at
Speaker 2: the same time. But I'm glad you brought up the
Speaker 2: offensive line. I think it's is playing better. What hurt
Speaker 2: today is you get to the two yard line and
Speaker 2: he's good for this at least once every game, Orlando
Speaker 2: Brown with the.
Speaker 5: I think there's multiple players plays during the game when
Speaker 5: he does it. And he you know, he's a great guy,
Speaker 5: a very talented man, but he does leave early. Multiple
Speaker 5: times again, and they call it at the most inopportune times.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 5: You know they could call it. There was a right
Speaker 5: tackle for Oh, I'm not Kansas City who did it
Speaker 5: every snap and they very seldom ever called it. Yeah right,
Speaker 5: they called it on on Orlando at the most inopportune times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at the two yard line. It got shoved back
Speaker 3: to the seven.
Speaker 2: And what happened a pick six that went uh yeah,
Speaker 2: van Ney got the interception and then gave the ball
Speaker 2: to Gilman.
Speaker 4: You run that far. I'm not running that far. You
Speaker 4: go that far?
Speaker 2: A low tie a loohi Gilman and h he went
Speaker 2: to distance and that was the game.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 3: So but yeah, the.
Speaker 2: Or Or lining up Osai with his helmet across the line,
Speaker 2: you know he's yeah, check with the ref. Hey am
Speaker 2: I all right, No, you're over Okay, I'll back up.
Speaker 5: It's they want the advantage on every snap and and
Speaker 5: they get as much of the ball as they can,
Speaker 5: and again inopportune time to do that. And he was
Speaker 5: clearly over the line. I saw that, and I called
Speaker 5: it before before they even threw the flag. I'm watching
Speaker 5: against he's off side.
Speaker 3: Watch Hey do we have Steve and Indian Hill.
Speaker 10: Hello, hello Steve, Hey, uh, I would like to ask you,
Speaker 10: as experts, maybe you Bruce, to list the last three
Speaker 10: worst losses that the Bengals. You know, it seems like
Speaker 10: week after week this is we lost the Jets.
Speaker 6: But your opinion.
Speaker 4: Is this one of the worst or.
Speaker 11: Where are you?
Speaker 5: The Jets, the Bears, and now this one all three
Speaker 5: but the big at the wrong time of the year.
Speaker 2: But the biggest blowout in Bengals history came against Minnesota.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this is.
Speaker 2: Because the largest spread and it happened four times and
Speaker 2: said club history before that game thirty seven points.
Speaker 5: I thought I was referring to crushing blows, but yeah,
Speaker 5: crushing blows this one, this one eliminates you. But really
Speaker 5: you can go back to the Jets and the Bears
Speaker 5: to look at the elimination. You know, there was there
Speaker 5: was two winnable games and and uh, they didn't play
Speaker 5: well enough to win those two games. And right then,
Speaker 5: you know, it's a different, different season if they win
Speaker 5: those two games.
Speaker 2: To have Joe Flacco bring that club back against them
Speaker 2: over and over and over with less than a minute
Speaker 2: to go, and you can't stop Colston Loveland on that
Speaker 2: lengthy touchdown pass in the midfield and then Garrett House
Speaker 2: to the house. Yeah, it's scary, just how bad that
Speaker 2: we played in those games. I forget the earlier caller
Speaker 2: who said, you know, the depression, the depression, and I
Speaker 2: when I try to go to sleep at night, I
Speaker 2: think of some of these plays that just kill you,
Speaker 2: and uh, oh.
Speaker 4: Man, just uh it hurts, it really does.
Speaker 2: Is a Bengal fan and I've been following the here
Speaker 2: it's nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 6: You know, Uh, it seems like this is the worst
Speaker 6: loss ever week after week after week. But here's what
Speaker 6: I wanted to say. We all still love them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we love the Bengals.
Speaker 5: Love the Bengals. Are you're one hundred percent correct? I'm
Speaker 5: a I'm a I'm a die hard. I'll never not
Speaker 5: be a Bengals fan. I think there's just it's frustrating
Speaker 5: because the week is so good when they win. You
Speaker 5: go to you go to work on Monday and you're
Speaker 5: standing with the with the work coworkers at the mountain,
Speaker 5: at the water fountain, in a coffee pot and just
Speaker 5: talking about how to play a well they played it.
Speaker 4: It makes the week go so much faster.
Speaker 5: And that's the bad part about it, is the whole
Speaker 5: city is and the whole region is invested in this
Speaker 5: club being successful, and kind of especially this time of
Speaker 5: the season when winter comes along, it's kind of depressing
Speaker 5: time with you anyway, with the trees and all that.
Speaker 5: But you kind of rely on them to lift their
Speaker 5: spirits every week, and so we get we get lifted
Speaker 5: up when they score and then then they give it
Speaker 5: right back. I said, you know, it's a charitable thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Oh, Steve, appreciate the call man. Thank you so much. Hey,
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Speaker 2: am on the philip Rivers. Watch here, forty four year
Speaker 2: old grandpa.
Speaker 4: Everybody sit down. Everybody's sitting down when he says this.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 2: Sixteen of twenty three passing for one hundred and one yards.
Speaker 2: That's an average of four point four yards per good handoff. Yes,
Speaker 2: one touchdown, no interception, one sack. Passer rating of ninety
Speaker 2: two point eight. And the Colts have a thirteen to
Speaker 2: twelve lead over the Seattle Seahawks with eight oh nine
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 4: And they're running the clock and killing the call.
Speaker 3: They're trying, man, and this.
Speaker 4: Can hold on Navy. This was on.
Speaker 5: But the old man, he just had a bad snap.
Speaker 5: I was watching the ball. I was a high snap
Speaker 5: and he had a choke. He got he got crushed.
Speaker 5: Oh I felt that well.
Speaker 2: And we saw him on the sidelines and he's moving
Speaker 2: his arm and and Bruce goes those banjo strings.
Speaker 4: They're not they're not what they used.
Speaker 3: To be exactly right. Hey, let's go out to the phone.
Speaker 2: Scott is in Blanchester home with the Wildcats.
Speaker 3: Scott, how are you yeah that y'all does fantastic?
Speaker 11: Great.
Speaker 20: I'm gonna try to put a little serotonin in everybody's mind.
Speaker 20: I'm gonna ask you guys the question. There there was
Speaker 20: a guy or a player, and he played for many NFL.
Speaker 11: Season as a quarterback, just like Joe.
Speaker 20: It almost sounds reminiscent.
Speaker 11: Of his career.
Speaker 20: But I watched this man try try after try, season
Speaker 20: after season, and finally and I think that that one
Speaker 20: game that he finally went to the Super Bowl, he
Speaker 20: finally won it. Can you name that man.
Speaker 4: Stanford?
Speaker 20: Because he was I mean, and and Devers different. Almost
Speaker 20: let me give you.
Speaker 10: Lifetime because this man, this man.
Speaker 20: Tried harder every single time, and it's like he always
Speaker 20: came up shorter. It's almost like the same situation that
Speaker 20: we're going through. But the moral of the story is
Speaker 20: get backed up, keep trying, and you'll get and you'll
Speaker 20: get it.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 20: It's like you know that mister John Elway.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they got blown out a couple of times. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I was thinking of Jim Pluckett. Jim, Yeah, you
Speaker 2: should win a super Bowl with the radar Ya.
Speaker 20: It was single time. Yeah, he's rifle one down the
Speaker 20: mid second and then finally get and all of a
Speaker 20: sudden horror shows his ugly face and then all of
Speaker 20: a sudden ever.
Speaker 5: You know, we'll put them and you know we'll put
Speaker 5: them over the top. Well, put them over the top.
Speaker 5: As good as John Elway was. It was their running game.
Speaker 5: Thrill Davis. Yes, they run the ball on anybody. That
Speaker 5: makes your quarterback that much more effective.
Speaker 4: When we get to that point, yeah, I said, we.
Speaker 5: Get to that point, then we'll then we'll be able
Speaker 5: to say, okay, Joe, now now take us to the rest.
Speaker 4: Of the way, right.
Speaker 20: You know, it's kind of funny you hear all the announcers.
Speaker 20: I have to, you know, turn the mute off because
Speaker 20: you know, these guys just it seems like you're on
Speaker 20: the other team. That's almost like we're it's the punching
Speaker 20: pack of the NFL. And I can't stand it, you know,
Speaker 20: but you know, it seems like we know we gotta
Speaker 20: do we got we know, we just gotta keep on
Speaker 20: pushing forward. And I'm I'm that just what rang in
Speaker 20: my head as far as like, guys, you gotta keep trying.
Speaker 20: You gotta keep going, that's all.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5: The one thing you don't want to be in all
Speaker 5: the sports is a team that the Harlem gold Tars
Speaker 5: play against.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You don't want to be
Speaker 4: that group. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: You want to be the team that the challenges every week. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and this team can still challenge. You can see. You
Speaker 5: can see three great performances the last three weeks in
Speaker 5: the season. And it won't mean much to to the
Speaker 5: to the to the organization, to the league league wide,
Speaker 5: but it'll mean a lot to the to the players,
Speaker 5: it will mean a lot to the fans, and it
Speaker 5: will mean a lot to the to the management that
Speaker 5: has to pay these guys and five.
Speaker 4: Players for next year.
Speaker 6: Year.
Speaker 4: We're valuabating now.
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate the call. Thank you very much. Do
Speaker 2: we have Jonathan and Dayton?
Speaker 11: Yeah? Hey, Chick, thanks for everything you do.
Speaker 4: Brother.
Speaker 11: I appreciate you always being the fan base, just giving
Speaker 11: us a place.
Speaker 4: Of vent tonight.
Speaker 14: Tonight, my I have got a little anger, okay, but
Speaker 14: it's not geared towards Zach Taylor.
Speaker 11: It's non geared towards the players. I think they all
Speaker 11: did there.
Speaker 14: They they played as hard as they can. They didn't
Speaker 14: have it today. But as a fan, I'm a customer
Speaker 14: and I want to talk about my customer experience at
Speaker 14: the game today. And it started like this. I came
Speaker 14: from Dayton, Ohio. You know, you know a thing or
Speaker 14: two about Dayton, Ohio.
Speaker 11: The whole drive down that roads covered and ice.
Speaker 14: Took us about an hour and forty five minutes to
Speaker 14: get there, no problem. But when I get to the
Speaker 14: stadium at the National Anthem, I got to wait an
Speaker 14: hour to get through because there's only two gates open,
Speaker 14: and I don't even get into the second quarter. And
Speaker 14: then I get to my seat and it's covered in snow.
Speaker 14: And then I see people in hot chocolate, and I said,
Speaker 14: I'll go to concessions, but my section's concession area isn't
Speaker 14: even open. It opens my eyes that this ownership has
Speaker 14: a serious problem with doing the bare minimum.
Speaker 11: You see it on the team, like we got the quarterback,
Speaker 11: but the offensive.
Speaker 14: Line's always one guy missed, and that makes the whole
Speaker 14: thing a unit. That's just like the snow still being
Speaker 14: on the seats, Like we got the stadium, but we
Speaker 14: don't take care of the little things to make it complete.
Speaker 14: And I'm telling you today was like the final straw
Speaker 14: from me. I saw it from a customer perspective. I
Speaker 14: was like, they don't do the little things, and I'm
Speaker 14: angered by that. It's like, and they want us to
Speaker 14: blame Zach, they want us to blame they want us
Speaker 14: to blame Burrow, and it's like, you gotta do the
Speaker 14: little things, and they just that's why they get a
Speaker 14: bad rap, that's why people make fun of us. That
Speaker 14: they're not making fun of us, they're not making fun
Speaker 14: of the city. They're talking about the ownership. And it's
Speaker 14: time that we just we started saying, you know, enough
Speaker 14: of enough man, enough is enough, Like treat us right,
Speaker 14: build a team that we deserve. Lord knows, this city's
Speaker 14: given them all the tax now as they want. It's
Speaker 14: time to step up to the plate and don't have
Speaker 14: scapegoats that we say, oh, go fire Zach Taylor. Now
Speaker 14: give him proper coaching, give him proper scouting. I feel
Speaker 14: like I'm just preaching at this point. But the Cotonomer perspective.
Speaker 2: That's what this is for John, Hey, absolutely, this is
Speaker 2: the place event we've got to take a break. Well,
Speaker 2: we can address this when we come Back. It's the
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Speaker 2: The Bengals twenty four to nothing shutout loss to the
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens today that finally knocked the Bengals out of
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Speaker 3: And it has to be Jamar Chase the.
Speaker 4: Only thing in town, that's right.
Speaker 2: He caught two balls, the two longest plays of the
Speaker 2: day for the Bengals, a thirty four yarder from Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow in the third quarter.
Speaker 3: In a and in the fourth quarter a twenty seven year.
Speaker 2: And really both you know, at Baltimore's thirty eight yard
Speaker 2: line for thirty four yards, the other one at Baltimore's
Speaker 2: forty five for twenty seven yards. The Bengals moved the
Speaker 2: ball between the basically between the twenties.
Speaker 4: Could not score. Unstoppable guy.
Speaker 5: They got in that red zone and it was like
Speaker 5: Kryptonite stepped across the line and they just.
Speaker 3: Get her a wall like the thirty yard line. They
Speaker 3: just could not.
Speaker 4: And didn't know. That's why they called the red zone.
Speaker 5: Every defense has they let you get there, and more
Speaker 5: than they tighten it down because you're getting that shortened field.
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Speaker 2: gone over this before, Bruce. But to get to the
Speaker 2: twenty five yard line, no score. They're driving and then
Speaker 2: a sack on third and four, way back like at
Speaker 2: the forty two yard line, forcing a punt. They get
Speaker 2: the ball back, they drive to the Ravens twenty nine
Speaker 2: yard line. Then it passed over the middle and it
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase didn't quite times jump right and it ticked
Speaker 2: off the top of his hands right and you.
Speaker 5: Can see him, you can see him turn his head up.
Speaker 5: Feel just to split second early and on n cole Weather,
Speaker 5: they like that. You got to grab that ball and
Speaker 5: hold hold on with for your life because it's slick.
Speaker 5: It's very slick.
Speaker 2: We saw a drop that would have been a thirty
Speaker 2: yard game by andre Yusavasha. Yeah, and another one in
Speaker 2: the end zone by what really was Mitchell Tinsley could
Speaker 2: not bring the ball in and then on the next play.
Speaker 4: Boom, Yeah, pick six.
Speaker 3: So it's it's that quick.
Speaker 4: Just it's just like a buffalo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one mistake and it's going the other way.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: They you to never give up defense. We never give
Speaker 5: up on the ball carrier. If you can tackle them
Speaker 5: at the one, you give us another chance to stop them.
Speaker 5: And that's kind of what happened today. We had the opportunity.
Speaker 5: They never gave up. They got the ball out, had
Speaker 5: a chance and broke our back.
Speaker 4: Yes it did. Hey, let's go out to the phones.
Speaker 4: We have Steve and Sharonville.
Speaker 21: And hey, guys, how you doing.
Speaker 4: We're there.
Speaker 21: Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, check out. I think you're the
Speaker 21: best guy on talk radio in Cincinnati. I mean that sincerely.
Speaker 21: I wish you were on more often.
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that, and I'm staying in my lane.
Speaker 2: I enjoy what I do. I'm kind of that glue
Speaker 2: on within.
Speaker 4: I just gave him knuckles just so you know that's right, man.
Speaker 21: But yeah, well you're good. Anyway. I'd like to make
Speaker 21: two comments, and I could either hang up and hey,
Speaker 21: have you comment, or if you want to dis go,
Speaker 21: so whatever you want to do. The first comment I
Speaker 21: like to make is yeah, to translate what Burrow said
Speaker 21: the other day in his press conference, and basically what
Speaker 21: he was saying is, uh, Mike and Katie, if you
Speaker 21: don't fire Zach, you don't fire Duke, and you don't
Speaker 21: bring chef up your scouting department and bring some good
Speaker 21: confident people in here asap like yesterday. Uh, I'm going
Speaker 21: to demand a trade. I mean we're gonna we're looking
Speaker 21: at Carson Palmer two point zero. In my opinion, I
Speaker 21: think Joe's fed up, and you know, he knows that
Speaker 21: he shouldn't be putting up with this, and then he'd
Speaker 21: be thriving somewhere else. So that's the first comment. The
Speaker 21: second comment I want to make is I honestly feel
Speaker 21: that both the fans and the media in this town
Speaker 21: are responsible partly for allowing the Bengals to get away
Speaker 21: with this mediocrity year after year. And when people say, well,
Speaker 21: I'm gonna support the Bengals no matter what and all,
Speaker 21: they basically that just tells the Brown family that they
Speaker 21: don't have to change anything. People are still going to
Speaker 21: support us. So I just think in either Philadelphia or
Speaker 21: New York or other cities wouldn't put up with this,
Speaker 21: neither the media or the fans. I just think the
Speaker 21: media is too soft and the fans are too accepting.
Speaker 21: That's just my opinion. If you want to discuss, fine,
Speaker 21: or if you want me to hang up, whatever.
Speaker 5: You want to do, I'll make one comment. I'll just
Speaker 5: say Cleveland Browns. You know you want to talk about
Speaker 5: a loyal fan base, the Cleveland Browns, or how about
Speaker 5: the Boston Red Sox for fifty years. You know, the
Speaker 5: fan base gets loyal because they love going to the ballpark,
Speaker 5: they love the scenery, running those players running around town.
Speaker 4: I get it, man, it's a ton of money.
Speaker 5: It's more money than it's ever ever been, and it's
Speaker 5: killing pocketbooks and Christmas vacations. It's killing Christmas presents because
Speaker 5: they're losing. But let's not jump off the brug. This
Speaker 5: organization has been around a long time. There's enough people
Speaker 5: that care about it. I think there's twenty thousand people
Speaker 5: still on the wait list to get tickets. So you know,
Speaker 5: I don't I don't buy anything. Like I said, I'm
Speaker 5: a lifer for for good. I don't go to a
Speaker 5: lot of games. I just I'm too busy with other
Speaker 5: things in my life. But I do watch every game
Speaker 5: on television, every one of them, and and uh I
Speaker 5: wish them the best on every on every given Sundays too.
Speaker 21: But there's there's too much media. I mean, look at
Speaker 21: Marvel Lewis, how many years he was here. Look how
Speaker 21: long it took him to fire Dave Shula. I mean,
Speaker 21: this organization, the front office is just not competent and
Speaker 21: that ends up with results. Like you see today on
Speaker 21: the field. That's just my opinion. I just think that
Speaker 21: I think the media should be tougher on the on
Speaker 21: the front office. I think the fans should be tough
Speaker 21: tougher on the front office. And I think it's that
Speaker 21: if both those things happen, you see things change around here.
Speaker 4: There's something to be that for that.
Speaker 5: But this again, having been in the organization, I know
Speaker 5: that they are family people and and they hate to
Speaker 5: and you look at this way, it's it's no longer
Speaker 5: it's such an expensive sport anymore. But they those people,
Speaker 5: the coaches, they become family.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: It's hard to kick a family that are out and
Speaker 5: and maybe it's easy for Jerry Jones, it's not so
Speaker 5: easy for the Browns. They're they're loyalists and they want
Speaker 5: to give you every opportunity.
Speaker 4: But I think I think that.
Speaker 5: Zach is losing the locker room, and I think something
Speaker 5: drastic hast to change, and maybe Duke Tobin is the
Speaker 5: start of it.
Speaker 3: The other times.
Speaker 21: Have a nice evening, guys.
Speaker 3: All right, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: The national media made it sound like Joe Burrow exactly
Speaker 2: what he said. I just listened to Dan Horde talk
Speaker 2: with Scott Sloan. He had a total, totally different opinion
Speaker 2: of it that yes, he's frustrated, no one in that
Speaker 2: building is happy, but.
Speaker 3: Demand a trade.
Speaker 2: Come on, He's making an average of fifty five million
Speaker 2: dollars through twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 5: His buddy Jamar's here. T Higgins is here. Yes, his weapons.
Speaker 5: Part of the part of the reason he's as good
Speaker 5: as he is is because of his weapons, you know,
Speaker 5: without without t to a you see how average he
Speaker 5: can look at times. Again, the cold weather affected everybody.
Speaker 5: I don't want to take that. But again, who had
Speaker 5: more to win to who had more to gain today
Speaker 5: in that game than than than the Ravens did. The
Speaker 5: Ravens are the Bengals, you know, it's hard, hard to
Speaker 5: stay focused.
Speaker 2: And the Ravens got the revenge from Thanksgiving night in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: So Bengals beat them there. Then they had they had
Speaker 2: fun with the turkey that night on the sidelines.
Speaker 4: And they haven't won. I don't. They haven't won since.
Speaker 5: No, it's a it's it's a it's getting hard to watch.
Speaker 5: But again it's the Bengals.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: You got you gotta, you gotta, you gotta love watching
Speaker 5: the Bengals, and you pray for them to make the
Speaker 5: right play, and when they do, you're excited about it.
Speaker 4: And when they don't, it's like, oh, here we go.
Speaker 4: You know, that's it.
Speaker 2: And cos let's a highlight the drive of the game.
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Speaker 4: We could pick it.
Speaker 2: The Bengals did not score, So what is the drive
Speaker 2: of the game. Okay, their best opportunity to score was late.
Speaker 3: They drive to the two yard line, five yard penalty.
Speaker 2: Then you get a five yard penalty on Orlando Brown
Speaker 2: you know jumping' you know, illegal procedure, a drop in
Speaker 2: the end zone by Mitchell Tinsley, and then a pick
Speaker 2: six that went ninety.
Speaker 4: Plus yards snowball.
Speaker 2: Yes, So in the in their first drive to the
Speaker 2: twenty five yard.
Speaker 5: Line, you can't go with the one where they ran
Speaker 5: it back for a touchdown because that's that's a drive
Speaker 5: of game for them allanst it. It has to be
Speaker 5: in the game early in the game when we had
Speaker 5: you know, we were playing had a chance to score
Speaker 5: was right there.
Speaker 2: And the first drive to the twenty five yard line,
Speaker 2: god man, yes, and then took a sack at the
Speaker 2: forty two.
Speaker 5: And you're kicking a brick on a day like today,
Speaker 5: so you can't make a it's hard to make a
Speaker 5: record centing vehicle.
Speaker 2: That is the drive of the game. The first drive
Speaker 2: to the Bengals forty two. Now to the or to
Speaker 2: the Ravens twenty five yard line.
Speaker 3: The sack took it back to the forty two. They
Speaker 3: had to punt.
Speaker 4: So wow.
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Speaker 2: don't know by now, the Baltimore Ravens shut out the
Speaker 2: Bengals today, twenty four to nothing, sending their record to
Speaker 2: seven and seven. They're still in the hunt for the
Speaker 2: AFC North title with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Bengals season ooh
Speaker 2: four and ten over with three games to go, four
Speaker 2: and ten, two and five at home. Very frustrating that
Speaker 2: they cannot protect pay Court Stadium.
Speaker 3: And let's go out to the phones.
Speaker 2: Welcome in our good friend John and Cedarville home of
Speaker 2: the Indians. Hi, John Hey, Jack Hey, John Hey.
Speaker 22: Officially eliminated from the playoffs officially. Does that mean no
Speaker 22: Lombardi this year?
Speaker 4: Correct? No Lombardy. Somebody in Cincinnati.
Speaker 22: I was hoping we should get that Lombardi and maybe
Speaker 22: Bengal Nation lobby the commissioner to get the name of
Speaker 22: the trophy change to the Gulf of Paul Brown.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: Speaking of that, speaking of that, here's no name for
Speaker 2: the coach of the year, and it should be the
Speaker 2: Paul Brown Coach of the Year. He is the number
Speaker 2: one ESPN's like top one hundred, you know, game changers.
Speaker 3: He is number one in terms.
Speaker 4: Of the evolution football.
Speaker 9: I mean, he's the teacher. He's the teacher.
Speaker 10: You don't meet the teacher.
Speaker 9: And that's what the.
Speaker 22: Man aster of the Cincinnati Bengals. They're all winners, fifty
Speaker 22: three winners, but you got to go out each and
Speaker 22: every play of every game and you've got to prove it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this this game is not about the right.
Speaker 4: It's about the four that you did wrong, you know.
Speaker 22: I mean, we did not see that today. And as
Speaker 22: far as the scouting goes in the draft, just like
Speaker 22: you guys are speaking on earlier, they get blue chippers.
Speaker 22: There's blue chippers out there and this team knows how
Speaker 22: to draft them. And it wouldn't bother me one bit
Speaker 22: if they took an Ohio State Bucket or Indiana Hoosier
Speaker 22: with every single one of their picks.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 22: And that's all I got in Happy holidays, guys.
Speaker 2: The Ohio State might have six first round draft picks
Speaker 2: on their of their top twenty two.
Speaker 4: Very very deserving. Indiana's got quite a few they as well.
Speaker 5: They had an amazing season and it's not over for
Speaker 5: either one of them.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And we talked about Joe Walter Bengal legend, Texas Tech
Speaker 2: Red Raiders.
Speaker 3: Many fast, they are physical, they're.
Speaker 5: Gonna be They're gonna be a real serious contender as
Speaker 5: this thing plays out.
Speaker 2: Next Saturday, the twentieth man, Well, there's a game Friday
Speaker 2: night in Oklahoma and Alabama.
Speaker 4: Another that should be a good game. I don't know
Speaker 4: either one is gonna compete.
Speaker 3: And then a triple header on Saturday.
Speaker 2: I'll be in the seven hundred WLW studios, we'll be
Speaker 2: talking about it. But you know you're right about the
Speaker 2: four plays. What if Jamar Chase makes that catch on
Speaker 2: a slant, it's right in Chase his hands and he dropped, Okay, refuse.
Speaker 2: Savash makes that catch they should have made that he
Speaker 2: should have made, and Tenseley makes the catch correct, So.
Speaker 3: And Joe doesn't throw the pick sick.
Speaker 5: Well, that's the problem with the pass game as being
Speaker 5: everything that you do.
Speaker 4: The running game is.
Speaker 5: So critical because you hand it off to one guy,
Speaker 5: but ten other guys have to do their job.
Speaker 4: To the best of their ability.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we had one hundred yards rushing today,
Speaker 5: which if we would have looked at hundred yards rushing
Speaker 5: the first five or six games of the season, we
Speaker 5: would said, wow, who were they? You know, when you're
Speaker 5: averaging one point two or one point four yards of
Speaker 5: carry early in the season. Now we get one hundred
Speaker 5: yards per game. But when you are limited how far
Speaker 5: and how he's hard is for you to run the game,
Speaker 5: run the ball. That passing game is critical. And now
Speaker 5: now three things have to pass, and we have to
Speaker 5: happen when you throw it. Somebody has to throw it,
Speaker 5: somebody has to catch it. Someone has to not fumble
Speaker 5: it when they get the ball.
Speaker 2: And that's why Woody Hayes said, things happened when you pass.
Speaker 2: Two of them are bad, bad, and really three of
Speaker 2: them are bad. You can't catch it, you can fumble it,
Speaker 2: and this it can get intercepted.
Speaker 5: And the weather is so important to the passing game.
Speaker 5: Rainy days, cold freezing days like today, it changes the
Speaker 5: dynamics of all the passing game when it's the weather
Speaker 5: is so bad.
Speaker 2: Isn't it crazy to be sitting here and critiquing and
Speaker 2: really and criticizing guys playing in minus one degree winship.
Speaker 2: It is severe, it's brutal, But hats off, we've reached
Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour break. But hats really, hats
Speaker 2: off to the Baltimore Ravens. They came out, they were hungry.
Speaker 2: They got after it. They really did. And you're listening
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Speaker 3: He's Bruce Kezerski.
Speaker 2: This is Chick Ludwig seven hundred WLW and ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2: You are listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers post
Speaker 2: game Sports Talk presented by RNL carriers. Folks should have
Speaker 2: heard us talking off air. We went back to Plan
Speaker 2: B free agency. We were talking offensive lineman.
Speaker 5: Greats, some greats, Max Mntoya, Max Monttoy, back when Bible Trumpy.
Speaker 2: Plan B free agency. If anybody remembers that was eventually outlawed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the system was illegal to begin with.
Speaker 8: It was.
Speaker 4: It was illegal.
Speaker 2: Teams protected a number of players, and what they did
Speaker 2: was to protect more players. They would agree with the
Speaker 2: with the the team would agree with the player. Hey
Speaker 2: a handshake to come back, maybe get a little bonus, yep.
Speaker 3: Well yeah.
Speaker 2: Max Montoya originally told Mike Brown, Okay, yeah, I will
Speaker 2: come back, so they didn't put him on the Plan
Speaker 2: B list. But when Al Davis offers you a two
Speaker 2: year deal double your salary, you can't.
Speaker 3: Turn that down until you've jumped to the Raiders.
Speaker 5: The big example that everybody talked about when that happened
Speaker 5: was Jojacobe was the highest paid left tackle in football
Speaker 5: and the Redskins gave him one hundred thousand dollars bonus
Speaker 5: to stick around.
Speaker 4: Yes, so he told everybody no.
Speaker 5: But Max was undervalued because of where he was playing,
Speaker 5: and he got a little bonus to say no, not
Speaker 5: nearly what Jojacobe got. And in the Pro Bowl, playing
Speaker 5: in the Pro Bowl, and he met Al Davis and
Speaker 5: Al said, gave him this contract.
Speaker 4: He said, yes, I'm going to sign that.
Speaker 5: And then he called and told the Bengals and they
Speaker 5: kept his Pro Bowl bonus, but he already had the
Speaker 5: little kicker that they gave him. But he only paid
Speaker 5: about two thirds of what his his position, with his
Speaker 5: expertise and his Pro Bowl caliber expertise demanded.
Speaker 4: Man, And so it's just a little behind the curve.
Speaker 5: Ball there, they're a little behind the curve and the
Speaker 5: way things go, and it seems like they caught up
Speaker 5: with the salaries they're playing. They're paying what everybody else
Speaker 5: is paying. It's just they're not balanced at their offensive defense.
Speaker 5: Are two different animals, Yeah, two different creations.
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go out to the phones. Welcome in, Debbie
Speaker 2: in Norwood, Debbie.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I'm just watching last two games, and man, I
Speaker 19: don't know what has happened, especially with Joe Burrow.
Speaker 9: Like we looked good in the first half of the game,
Speaker 9: and then all of a sudden, it's like he was
Speaker 9: sitting in.
Speaker 13: A warm backup and started and everything just went to
Speaker 13: hell in a handbasket.
Speaker 2: What happened, Well, we saw what happened last week. I
Speaker 2: mean he played brilliantly for ninety eight percent of the
Speaker 2: game and two rows. Yes, but that's how perfect he
Speaker 2: has to play perfect for this team to win.
Speaker 4: It seems like every mistake he makes.
Speaker 9: Because we have amazing talent on our team.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, we do look at their record, but they
Speaker 5: they scored forty and lost by two points. They scored
Speaker 5: thirty thirty eight and lost by two points. Under Joe Flacco,
Speaker 5: you know. And so when Joe Burrow come back and
Speaker 5: they scored enough points to win and they still lose.
Speaker 5: They're given up too many points. And they've been given
Speaker 5: up too many points all year long, all year long.
Speaker 5: So every time the offense makes a mistake, it's almost
Speaker 5: amplified by the fear of what's coming. Here we go again.
Speaker 5: Believe me that that plays into everybody's hearts and minds
Speaker 5: on that field.
Speaker 4: And if you if you're winning, it doesn't. But if
Speaker 4: you're losing, yeah, it kind of does.
Speaker 2: Joe is pressing, he is, he is pressing to attempt
Speaker 2: to play perfect in any you can't.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Now, they're human beings too, So all week long now
Speaker 5: they're hearing talk shows like ours and and the callers
Speaker 5: are upset and for different reasons, and they and they
Speaker 5: all and and you got to go to Kroger's with
Speaker 5: your wife to get groceries, and you know it's Christmas
Speaker 5: shop and time, so you're going out to buy your
Speaker 5: wife and present and you're hearing all this talk and
Speaker 5: there you know he's not good this and that, and
Speaker 5: it eats at your soul because you you you put
Speaker 5: everything you have into this and like you said, we
Speaker 5: have great players. We have great players, and they're great
Speaker 5: human beings, they really are.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: But like I said earlier, it's it's not the sixty
Speaker 5: five plays that you make, it's the four that you
Speaker 5: don't that costs us everywhere.
Speaker 3: And we can point to about five plays today that.
Speaker 5: Killed them, and it seems like when Joe makes them,
Speaker 5: they're amplified that because we throw the ball so often.
Speaker 5: The tipped pass off of Chase's hands intercepted, you know,
Speaker 5: the pass last week that he threw on the screen.
Speaker 5: He threw the ball exactly where he sposed to. The
Speaker 5: guy made a great play. Yes, you know. The Lions
Speaker 5: did that today to Safford. The defensive lineman picked it
Speaker 5: off the same.
Speaker 4: Way Aiden Hutchinson.
Speaker 5: But they came back and won because they were able
Speaker 5: to stop people when they needed to.
Speaker 3: We didn't do that, all right, Tabby, thank you very
Speaker 3: much for the call.
Speaker 4: Uh it's called complimentary football, chick. You know what really is.
Speaker 5: They gotta bail and they gotta bail him out when
Speaker 5: he makes his few mistakes.
Speaker 2: And all I can think of is Jordan Battle made
Speaker 2: a couple of nice plays. Yeah, Okay, celebrated the one
Speaker 2: where he shot the gap and made the nice tackle,
Speaker 2: and on the very next play, Boom rashied Ali thirty
Speaker 2: yards on the screen pass Yeh Boom untouched seven to
Speaker 2: nothing Ravens on their way to a twenty four to
Speaker 2: nothing victory.
Speaker 3: Well, let's review the Guilty Windows.
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Speaker 2: and the window of opportunity for the Bengals came when.
Speaker 3: Jordan Battle.
Speaker 2: Gets the interception off an errant pass from Lamar Jackson
Speaker 2: that bounced out of the hands of Zay Flowers and
Speaker 2: the Bengals get set up at their own twenty seven
Speaker 2: yard line.
Speaker 3: But what do they do.
Speaker 2: They go three and out, three and out.
Speaker 5: They didn't take advantage of the opportunity. That's a complimentary
Speaker 5: football comment that we were just talking about. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: offense makes a mistake, defense has to bail them out.
Speaker 4: Defense makes a great play, the offense got to capitalize
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 5: That's that's that's complimentary football, and it's just it's not
Speaker 5: consistent enough at this point.
Speaker 3: And that came after Joe Burrow's interception.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they Joe threw an interception off the tip
Speaker 5: and then uh we got one off a tip and
Speaker 5: then do it with it.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. So frustrating ten to nothing or fourteen
Speaker 2: to nothing at half. That second touchdown in the final
Speaker 2: minute of that second quarter, the twenty eight yard or
Speaker 2: de Ze Flowers was an absolute killer killer because the
Speaker 2: Bengals had the ball first and ten at the two
Speaker 2: minute warning at their own forty seven yard line, and
Speaker 2: a run and two incompletions only burned a few seconds
Speaker 2: off the clock. You would have liked the Bengals to
Speaker 2: have driven down scored before the end of the half.
Speaker 2: You're getting the ball to start the third quarter. Nothing
Speaker 2: worked for the Cincinnati Bengals today in a twenty four
Speaker 2: to nothing loss, the first time they've been shut out
Speaker 2: since the opener of the twenty seventeen season, twenty to
Speaker 2: nothing at home in the opening game of the season
Speaker 2: by the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 4: Chick.
Speaker 5: Yes, the Ravens have twenty four rushes and they had
Speaker 5: twelve asses, Yes.
Speaker 4: Thirty six plays and how many were for more than
Speaker 4: twenty eight game game right there?
Speaker 5: Just that's a third of the third of the you know,
Speaker 5: that's just ridiculous. You can't you can't be doing that.
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Speaker 2: But Bruce is so right. You make forty good plays.
Speaker 2: It's the four or five that you don't make or
Speaker 2: the mistakes that you make that kill you. And that's
Speaker 2: what happened today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we had thirty nine passing attempts and twenty nine
Speaker 5: rushing attempts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Held the ball for nearly forty minutes.
Speaker 5: Sixty eight plays to their thirty six plays.
Speaker 3: And they shut us, set the Beckels out. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Twenty four to nothing. It just it blows your mind.
Speaker 5: But the only goal that they compost was to dominate the
Speaker 5: time possession, to give Jacksonville or to give uh Lamar
Speaker 5: Jackson as few.
Speaker 4: Of opportunities as possible. Yeah, that was.
Speaker 5: It's been that way all year long. With the defense
Speaker 5: as shaky as had been and unstable, they got to
Speaker 5: limit the opponent's possessions.
Speaker 2: So they limited Lamar Jackson to eight completions, but two.
Speaker 3: Of them were for touchdowns.
Speaker 4: Oh it hurts, man, it hurts.
Speaker 3: Hey.
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Speaker 2: US forty two eighty nine eighty seven. We're here till
Speaker 2: eight thirty tonight at Bruce. Right now, let's go over
Speaker 2: some scores around the National Football League. The Broncos at
Speaker 2: home over the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 4: May thirty four to twenty six games.
Speaker 2: Broncos improved to twelve and two, Packers fall to nine
Speaker 2: four and one.
Speaker 4: That might make the Denver Broncos a number one seed. Man.
Speaker 2: The Chicago Bears at home crushed the Cleveland Browns. The
Speaker 2: Browns are three and eleven, the Chicago Bears ten and four,
Speaker 2: five and one at home, and the team that launched
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams career, your Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: Bengals fall, of course, twenty four to nothing at home.
Speaker 2: Two the Baltimore Ravens. Ravens approved to seven and seven.
Speaker 2: Bengals fall to four and ten. Chargers eke out a
Speaker 2: sixteen to thirteen win over the Chiefs in Kansas City.
Speaker 2: Chargers improved to ten and four. Chiefs fall to six
Speaker 2: and eight.
Speaker 4: And Mahomes maybe out. Maybe he's hurt.
Speaker 2: He's hurt, that's right, and they could very well be
Speaker 2: eliminated here from the playoffs.
Speaker 4: I think they are mathematically Chiefs are out.
Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills, down early twenty one to nothing, roar
Speaker 2: back and beat the New England Patriots up in Foxborough
Speaker 2: thirty five to thirty one. A twenty eight point second
Speaker 2: half for the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 3: You trailed twenty four to seven.
Speaker 5: And continually tried to share the offense, and then at
Speaker 5: some point they say, Josh win this game for us,
Speaker 5: and he's good enough to do it like Superman.
Speaker 2: Nineteen of twenty eight, one hundred and ninety three yards
Speaker 2: three touchdowns for Josh Allen the command The Washington Commanders
Speaker 2: are twenty nine to twenty one winners over the Giants.
Speaker 2: In New York, a pair of struggling teams, Commanders four
Speaker 2: and ten, Giants two and twelve.
Speaker 3: Raiders get shut out.
Speaker 2: In Philadelphia buy the Eagles thirty one to nothing. The
Speaker 2: Raiders are two and twelve. The Eagles improved to nine
Speaker 2: and five five and two at home. Jaguars all over
Speaker 2: the Jets in Jacksonville. The Jags now ten and four.
Speaker 2: Jets go to three and eleven. Trevor Lawrence twenty of
Speaker 2: thirty two passing three hundred and thirty yards and five touchdowns.
Speaker 4: Chick Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 5: As much as this city is anguishing over the Bengals,
Speaker 5: how about New York?
Speaker 4: How struggles that they have with the Giants and the Jets. Oh,
Speaker 4: they got two franchises that can't get out of their
Speaker 4: own way.
Speaker 3: In the largest market, in the largest market in the United.
Speaker 2: States, Texans are forty to twenty winners at home over
Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals. Texans approved the nine to five Cardinals
Speaker 2: at three and eleven and CJ. Stroud twenty two to
Speaker 2: twenty nine two hundred and sixty yards, three touchdowns.
Speaker 5: They've caught fire. They're playing great football. What a great
Speaker 5: defense they have.
Speaker 2: And the Los Angeles Rams at home forty one to
Speaker 2: thirty four winners over the visiting Detroit Lions. Lions now
Speaker 2: eight and six, Rams approved to eleven and three. Matthew
Speaker 2: Stafford a couple of touchdown passes. He throws for three
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty eight yards.
Speaker 4: The Lions are facing elimination two, that's right.
Speaker 2: And the Saints in New Orleans twenty to seventeen winners
Speaker 2: over the visiting Carolina Panthers. Panthers now seven and seven,
Speaker 2: Saints are are four and ten, and the forty nine Ers,
Speaker 2: how do they keep winning? Thirty seven to twenty four
Speaker 2: at home over the Tennessee Titans. Titan said two and twelve,
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers had ten and four and Phillips Rivers
Speaker 2: debut has comeback after being out since two thousand.
Speaker 5: Honestly, yes, it's a pretty impressive comeback. I mean, Joe
Speaker 5: Flacco was great in his tenure here as a Bengal,
Speaker 5: with the exception of the first game if you remember
Speaker 5: that one, it was it was not overly exciting. But
Speaker 5: today he threw a for over one hundred yards, threw
Speaker 5: a for a touchdown pass. He had him in the
Speaker 5: ballgame and they were winning for most of that ballgame.
Speaker 5: He made him competitive. Now, what can happen in the
Speaker 5: next couple of couple of weeks because we already saw him,
Speaker 5: you know, stretching his shoulder out with the trainer and
Speaker 5: you know, getting sacked a few times, and.
Speaker 4: I have an offensive linement have to help him up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the banjo, the joe strings are a little tight,
Speaker 2: yeah or whatever. But the Seattle Seahawks eke it out
Speaker 2: over the Indianapolis Colts touring acl Patrick Mahomes Wow, eighteen
Speaker 2: to sixteen. Seattle Seahawks over the Colts.
Speaker 4: Micah Parsons feared torn Aco Wow.
Speaker 2: And Tomorrow Knight's game the Dolphins at the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 2: Steelers at seven and six, Dolphins at six and seven.
Speaker 2: And tonight's game is the Vikings at the Cowboys. Vikings
Speaker 2: at five and eight, the Cowboys at six, six and one.
Speaker 2: We've got time to go out to the phones. Jack
Speaker 2: is a Dayton Jack, What do you say?
Speaker 10: Yes?
Speaker 8: Hey, hello, Hello?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Can you hear me sure?
Speaker 4: Ken?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 8: The Bengals are going to make some progress in this
Speaker 8: sense Burrough Chase era. They've got to improve the defense overnight.
Speaker 8: And man, i'd pack you jump pair of draft picks
Speaker 8: for each of the top three teams in the draft
Speaker 8: and go out and get ohigh skates, the three best
Speaker 8: defensive players, reef Jackson Downs and go at it and
Speaker 8: try to improve better than twenty five percent of the
Speaker 8: defense overnight. Roll the dice and see what happens. Otherwise,
Speaker 8: it's gonna be us in the Browns for who knows
Speaker 8: the next half dozen years. I'll listen to your comments.
Speaker 10: Thanks.
Speaker 2: Well, Like we mentioned it earlier, there's like six Ohio
Speaker 2: State buck eyes really on both sides of the uh
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage that are gonna go in the
Speaker 2: first round of the NFL Draft. There Caleb Downs, r
Speaker 2: Vel Reese. These are very talented uh gosh, a linebacker
Speaker 2: and the dB. It'd be nice if the Bengals could
Speaker 2: pick one of those guys up. To me, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a defensive draft. Yeah, you're gonna miss on some guys,
Speaker 2: but you've got to improve this defense.
Speaker 3: And really, when you look at the.
Speaker 2: Offense, Bruce Higgins is back Burho is back, Jamar Chase
Speaker 2: is back. You've got two young guards, You've got a
Speaker 2: very good you basically have decent tackles. Amarus Mims is
Speaker 2: awesome at right tackle, and you've got a young Chase Brown.
Speaker 3: It's samaj Is due back.
Speaker 2: So really the offense, Mi Kaziki's back, you're fairly.
Speaker 3: Well set on offense. You've got to improve this defense.
Speaker 5: Their window their windows about three years, maybe four. And
Speaker 5: then and then then you're looking at the end of
Speaker 5: the careers of some of the finest in Bengal history
Speaker 5: to play those positions, Chase and Burrow and Higgins, and
Speaker 5: and then what you know, the evolution can't be reloaded
Speaker 5: offense again because we're losing games defensively and stats don't lie.
Speaker 5: And I hate the point fingers, but when you're at
Speaker 5: this point in the year, when you're ranked at the
Speaker 5: bottom of the league, it's because of the work that
Speaker 5: you did. It's it's the results that you were able
Speaker 5: to perform. You know, offensively they're not down to the
Speaker 5: bottom of the league, there's somewhere in the middle, but
Speaker 5: defensively they are down the bottom. Yes, you can win
Speaker 5: with a with the middle of the road defense. You
Speaker 5: can win with a.
Speaker 4: Fifteenth, sixteenth, seventeenth ranked defense.
Speaker 5: A lot of games and if we had that this year,
Speaker 5: we don't want a lot of games.
Speaker 4: But we don't. And some of it's a maturity young
Speaker 4: lung linebackers.
Speaker 5: We've saw two defensive ends step up the last couple
Speaker 5: of games and play better. Defensive tackles have been playing
Speaker 5: a little better, secondary a little better.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's because they're doing a lot more twisting, blitzing.
Speaker 2: And and to Betrius Knight really step forward at times today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but these guys are all all American blue chip
Speaker 5: or easier the top shelf players coming up big, big programs,
Speaker 5: and for some reason it's not gelling on Sundays. And
Speaker 5: that's what we has to fix. We're picking great players,
Speaker 5: it has to fix itself on Sunday.
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Speaker 5: On the first play of the eighties. They made a
Speaker 5: tackle in the pocket down on him.
Speaker 4: Yes, devastating early U Sama J.
Speaker 2: P Ryan got nipped up with with an ankle. He
Speaker 2: went inside, came back out, played.
Speaker 4: Tough dude right there. Oh he robed the way he
Speaker 4: plays football.
Speaker 2: Yes, And later in the game Cody Ford had to
Speaker 2: come in fresh at ten degrees minus one win chill
Speaker 2: filling in for am Arius Man.
Speaker 5: That's the one that I'm worried about the most. He's
Speaker 5: such a valuable part of that front because I think
Speaker 5: it was playing great football.
Speaker 2: Some sort of a knee injury or a you know,
Speaker 2: lower body injury.
Speaker 4: So there's no little dude either, that's for sure.
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Speaker 2: shout out to the Walter Payton Man of the Year
Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Bengals, and that is center Ted Carris. Carris,
Speaker 2: and here's the guy could have started his own business
Speaker 2: and made a ton of money off since he had yep,
Speaker 2: but he's turned that into his.
Speaker 5: His charitable donation fundraiser and it's amazing. It's taken off
Speaker 5: like crazy. I just was at the dinner the other night.
Speaker 5: Anthony Munhos at his foundation sells one of the raffle items,
Speaker 5: and he and Ted got together and put together this
Speaker 5: deal with Ted's new offensive line and Anthony's old offensive line.
Speaker 5: So we threw in lap him in our group, and
Speaker 5: Ted threw in everybody on the offensive line. Joe showed up,
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow showed up for a little while. We had
Speaker 5: a great time. And if you can put all those
Speaker 5: big carcasses in one room with two sponsors, Anthony Munia's
Speaker 5: foundation is an amazing They do so much good work
Speaker 5: and to pair with Ted and what he does is phenomenal.
Speaker 4: I'm so happy to be part of that group.
Speaker 3: No doubt about it.
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Speaker 2: really the first quarterback when I got the job is
Speaker 2: the Bengals beat writer for the Dayton Daily News full time.
Speaker 2: The quarterback was Jeff Blake. Yeah, played with Jeff, played
Speaker 2: with Jeff back. He was a Jet for two years
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two nineteen ninety three. Bengals picked him up
Speaker 2: when he got basically waived yep by the New York Jets.
Speaker 2: Bruce Coslet knew all about him. He came into Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: played from ninety four through nineteen ninety nine. He was
Speaker 2: with the New Orleans Saints for two years, the Ravens
Speaker 2: in two thousand and two, the Cardinals in two thousand
Speaker 2: and three, the Eagles in four, and the Bears and five.
Speaker 2: He carved out a fourteen year career.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: All he did was throw a touchdown passes the Carl
Speaker 5: Pickens all day. He just came those those screen makers,
Speaker 5: they just drop right in the bucket.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then the Bengals Legends book that I wrote, I
Speaker 2: mean Lapp told me it came down the chimney. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that is through the most beautiful rainbows. If you have time,
Speaker 2: go onto YouTube just plug in Jeff Blake and deep
Speaker 2: ball thrower. Nobody threw a prettier deep ball.
Speaker 3: And I'm serious in NFL.
Speaker 5: History are there they talk all the time about the
Speaker 5: current Russell Wilson era. When the deep balls that he
Speaker 5: threw the state, that's exactly the same thing. They come
Speaker 5: right down in the bucket. It's like, that's a heck
Speaker 5: of a pass when you can throw it into a
Speaker 5: five gallon bucket from forty yards away, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2: That's And then and to have Jeff Blake come back
Speaker 2: as the ruler of the Jungle. I feel so bad
Speaker 2: that the Bengals get shut out twenty four to nothing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he was a former Raven and a former Bengal.
Speaker 2: And Neil O'Donnell took over as the quarterback after Jeff.
Speaker 5: He was kicked out of New York. You think about
Speaker 5: how much turmoil the Jets have been in. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: wonder you let go of a guy with that ability,
Speaker 5: and you wonder why they can't win, why they're so
Speaker 5: up and down and up, and they win a couple
Speaker 5: of games in the row that they lose ten.
Speaker 4: It is just the you want with a management for crimedlight?
Speaker 4: Is is that what it is?
Speaker 5: There?
Speaker 4: As well? You know, is it? The Bengals have a.
Speaker 5: Lot of questions, and people questioned Mike Brown and the
Speaker 5: organization for the way they handle their business. But what
Speaker 5: about the Jets? Yes, you know, I mean the Giants.
Speaker 5: The Giants had a winning era, but what did it take?
Speaker 5: You know, it took Hall of famers pull it off,
Speaker 5: and now they can't get out.
Speaker 4: Of their own way.
Speaker 2: That's right, Lawrence Taylor, Yeah, Bill Parcels, Yeah wow. And
Speaker 2: also Bruce, let's check on Cincinnati's defensive secondary coverage today,
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Speaker 2: and then they'll blow a coverage.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's the name of the game. We talked
Speaker 5: about this several times this evening. You defensively, you you
Speaker 5: run all those snaps and and you're you're looking great
Speaker 5: and then you blow a coverage. It just destroys all
Speaker 5: the work you did leading up to that. They had
Speaker 5: thirty two thirty six plays and eight of them were
Speaker 5: for more than twenty yards. Yes, and you know that's
Speaker 5: that's a losing formula right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the touchdown pass the jay Toose Flowers and uh
Speaker 2: rashen Ali on the uh on the swing.
Speaker 4: Pass screen thirty yards untouched.
Speaker 2: So just uh. And you could tell our defensive coaches
Speaker 2: were were bombing, have no doubt on that. On that series.
Speaker 5: Oh, you can't imagine what's going on in in their
Speaker 5: meeting rooms because you know they're they're still talking about
Speaker 5: what happened today, and they'll be talking about it tomorrow
Speaker 5: and then they'll bring their players in and talk about
Speaker 5: it again, and you know it's reliving a nightmare.
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Speaker 2: and Jordan Battle did pick off that that was a
Speaker 2: heads up play, a ball that bounced off the hands
Speaker 2: of Zave Flowers and then his high yes, a diving
Speaker 2: he was able to keep his hands underneath that ball
Speaker 2: and pin it against his leg so it wouldn't hit
Speaker 2: the ground.
Speaker 5: I was I was afraid after I saw it come
Speaker 5: off and get pinned against his leg that they might
Speaker 5: come up with one of those creative overalls.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he did pin it and I rolled over
Speaker 4: just to the nick of time.
Speaker 3: That's exactly right. And it did not touch the ground.
Speaker 4: Did not touch it. Fantastic.
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Speaker 2: number one to bounce back from this? It especially going
Speaker 2: from zero degrees in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be very cold this week.
Speaker 2: Two Miami Gardens, Florida. And yeah, it sounds rosy, but man,
Speaker 2: your body has to undergo some big time change.
Speaker 5: I think the rather the warm weather than the what
Speaker 5: we had today. I think as general, especially when you
Speaker 5: get down the end of the season, you're really playing
Speaker 5: for pride and you're playing for next season, impressing the powers.
Speaker 4: That be to make those business decisions.
Speaker 5: You're gonna play hard no matter where you play, because
Speaker 5: a lot of these guys are playing.
Speaker 2: For their future and now a lot of fans are
Speaker 2: gonna be screaming.
Speaker 5: Every game they play for the future. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 5: They're always playing for the future, but with nothing to.
Speaker 4: Gain other than a few wins at the end of
Speaker 4: the season. They're really playing for it now.
Speaker 2: There was a report that I remember years ago talking
Speaker 2: about the toughness of offensive linemen just by and I
Speaker 2: think Ball State University conducted this study. You put on
Speaker 2: a rain coat and run full speed into your garage door. Yeah,
Speaker 2: try that like sixty times.
Speaker 5: The train wrecks there. They're no, it's not a collision
Speaker 5: sport for offensive lineman. They're train wrecks. Every every play
Speaker 5: is a train wreck. I remember uh walking into the
Speaker 5: training room after a game and Chris collins Worth. They're
Speaker 5: sitting up on the training table with ice on both
Speaker 5: knees and both elbows. I said, Man, you got whack today.
Speaker 5: He said, cas I get it once maybe twice a game.
Speaker 5: You guys get it every play. I don't know how
Speaker 5: you do it. Yeah, that's one from coming from one
Speaker 5: from within the game. You know, makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 5: But pe we all pay for it, you know. Going
Speaker 5: on my next second, next surgery, had knee replacement.
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's it's it's just I wouldn't take
Speaker 4: it training for a second. But we love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember shaking hands with Well, with Anthony
Speaker 2: and with Anthony Munjo's and Richie Braham.
Speaker 4: And man the the releave hooks.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, the hands and the fingers man that get
Speaker 2: broken and bent and.
Speaker 5: No ligaments and the fingers the thumbs are all flexible
Speaker 5: and multiple different directions. But again it's none of us
Speaker 5: would trade it for a second. We we we get
Speaker 5: together at functions, like I said at the Anthony Munius
Speaker 5: thing the other night, the fundraiser.
Speaker 4: Uh, we just have a great time.
Speaker 5: We went to the Jim McNally Hall of Fame induction
Speaker 5: in Canton this summer. Yes, all of us showed up.
Speaker 5: We had it's like old times. We can not see
Speaker 5: each other. Bruce Rhymers come in from Iowa. Haven't seen
Speaker 5: him in years, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: And Jim McNally, the yep d Many period, he just
Speaker 2: had a birthday eighty two, eighty two.
Speaker 5: Congratulations Jimmy. He's a he's a one of a kind
Speaker 5: of fantastic coach. Revolutionary, I mean revolutionary, he taught he
Speaker 5: taught things that were way ahead of their time. That
Speaker 5: and he created a whole litany of coaches that have
Speaker 5: come down over the years that claimed to be McNally disciples.
Speaker 4: And and we love the guy. Uh.
Speaker 5: He pushed us beyond our expectations, made men out of us.
Speaker 4: Really, he truly is the guru.
Speaker 2: And I would encourage high school coaches to check out
Speaker 2: his training on it's free.
Speaker 3: You're going on YouTube.
Speaker 2: Check out the guru.
Speaker 5: He has, he's he's done I don't know, one hundred
Speaker 5: thousand clinics, and he makes videos and he sells his videos.
Speaker 5: And I don't care who you are, you can learn
Speaker 5: something from watching his videos. He sends us on our string,
Speaker 5: our tech string, videos of him every day doing ten chins.
Speaker 4: Yes, then he'll then they'll step.
Speaker 5: Down for a second, wait a minute, go back and
Speaker 5: do ten more chins. He's eighty two years old, chick.
Speaker 5: He's just he's just an incredible you incredible guy.
Speaker 4: And we we we hope the best for Jimmy.
Speaker 2: That is fantastic. Yeah, And you know and where you know,
Speaker 2: the Bengals are getting ready to go down to Miami
Speaker 2: then come home for two games. When this when the
Speaker 2: schedule came out and you.
Speaker 3: Saw the end, you know the end.
Speaker 4: I'm there.
Speaker 2: Wow, this has a real.
Speaker 4: Chance to be special.
Speaker 2: And I said ten and seven to start the year,
Speaker 2: and then when Joe went down, it was gonna be
Speaker 2: I'm there five and twelve.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, just as you know what you're facing now,
Speaker 4: as you're facing.
Speaker 5: Desperate teams in every week, you're facing teams that are
Speaker 5: in the same boat. They've all lost their season, they're
Speaker 5: out of the playoffs, they have nothing to play for.
Speaker 4: Except for their futures.
Speaker 5: Now you're going to see what these guys are made of,
Speaker 5: and on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3: And there's going to be detractors to you know, to
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: We hear it in some of the voices of the fans,
Speaker 2: you know, the money that he's making, the he's a
Speaker 2: he's a fashion conscious guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: I mean he marches to the beat of his own
Speaker 2: druma man, and he's got his own like fashion advisor.
Speaker 3: This guy mister Smith who uh yeah, you.
Speaker 5: Know that's that's that's for his that's for the people
Speaker 5: out there that love and adore him, yes, and and
Speaker 5: the guys that play with him and the guys that
Speaker 5: bradened the game.
Speaker 4: He was at dinner the.
Speaker 5: Other night with us. He has the Paris wet pants on.
Speaker 5: You know that's a hoodie. You know that's Joe. That's
Speaker 5: where he's comfortable. Yes, but he does that because he
Speaker 5: trying to lead this city back to greatness.
Speaker 4: And I got appreciate that about the man. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: it was.
Speaker 2: Just a few years ago with number one that you know,
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl run, the new uniforms, Jamar Chase doing
Speaker 2: the gritty.
Speaker 3: This team had a national following.
Speaker 4: Yeah it was.
Speaker 2: It was kind of the young sexy team out there,
Speaker 2: right And now, okay, now it's a struggle.
Speaker 3: So fans are upset.
Speaker 2: I agree with that, but only once team can win
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, get geared up, finish this year strong,
Speaker 2: get some draft picks, get this defense fixed, and let's
Speaker 2: go to war next year.
Speaker 4: I would.
Speaker 5: I would look look forward so forward to next year,
Speaker 5: wait and see how frantic next year is going to be.
Speaker 5: With the Chiefs out of it already and and Buffalo
Speaker 5: not playing well, I don't think they're going to go
Speaker 5: very deep with they even if they get in. The
Speaker 5: Bengals are out of it already. You know the Cowboys
Speaker 5: are out of with all these great, great fifty sixty
Speaker 5: million quarter you wait and see how crazy the league
Speaker 5: is gonna be next year when you got upstart quarterbacks
Speaker 5: like Caleb Williams and Jordan Love and all these fantasts.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be just amazing.
Speaker 3: Get Trevor Lawrence, Trevor Lawrence, everybody stroud.
Speaker 4: There is no such thing as as a push game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even Bryce Young Yeah. And then Washington commanders
Speaker 2: Ja Jade and Daniels then just go to be back,
Speaker 2: hopefully one hundred percent healthy. So yeah, here's the guy
Speaker 2: that went to the NFC Championship game last year. He
Speaker 2: got injured. Washington's down. So misery loves company.
Speaker 5: So many of these quarters, so many of these these
Speaker 5: franchises have their franchise quarterback. Right, there's gonna be more
Speaker 5: exciting guys coming in the league as receivers and running
Speaker 5: backs and huge offensive lineman. They're getting bigger check these
Speaker 5: linemen are getting here. When I played, we used to
Speaker 5: talk about the average of two ninety five or three
Speaker 5: hundred pounds.
Speaker 4: Wow, they're big. They're over three hundred pounds. How's a
Speaker 4: dinner with these guys? The other night and the case.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we average about three twenty five, three
Speaker 5: thirty up and down the board.
Speaker 4: And this was kind of even the backups included or
Speaker 4: three are that big? They're massive?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what Anthony played it, what like two ninety five.
Speaker 5: I was two eighty seven to ninety something like that.
Speaker 5: My Toya the same. Joe Walder was huge at three
Speaker 5: oh five. Brian Blados was huge at three three oh five,
Speaker 5: three ten, Bruce Bruce Ymers six seven ninety five. Those
Speaker 5: were the guys that said that they were. That's what
Speaker 5: made us big is Joe was sixty seven, Brimers was
Speaker 5: six seven.
Speaker 4: You know, all the rest of us were six five.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't wasn't it you guys that got measured
Speaker 2: on it some kind of Uh No.
Speaker 4: It wasn't me per se.
Speaker 5: But yeah, we had uh we had four guys away
Speaker 5: in at to ninety two.
Speaker 2: And was it was it a regular scale or was
Speaker 2: it some kind was it?
Speaker 5: It was a normal training camp type of scale, kind
Speaker 5: of like your bathroom scale was an oversize.
Speaker 4: But Sam didn't believe it.
Speaker 5: So he took those four guys down at the Buckley
Speaker 5: Green and feet in Wilmington and made him get on
Speaker 5: the scale. And I'm not gonna mention the names either
Speaker 5: got on the scale one at a time, and every
Speaker 5: one of them was the well over the three hundred mark.
Speaker 4: That's when all the diets started. Oh man, that is wild.
Speaker 4: But I didn't have to make that trip. That's wild.
Speaker 4: He picked out four guys.
Speaker 5: He picked out the four guys in gosh, you could
Speaker 5: tell if if if cous is eighty six.
Speaker 4: And he's ninety, there's no way that guy's ninety two. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh man, Yeah, we read about that.
Speaker 5: The grain, the Buckley Grain and feet stow up in Wilmington, Ohio. Man,
Speaker 5: that's a drive through truck scale.
Speaker 4: Just phenomenal.
Speaker 2: Hey, really appreciate you being my partner this year at
Speaker 2: different times, and really appreciated Bruce Cosly it there, Bruce, Yeah,
Speaker 2: cause yeah, that's all right. That was my first head
Speaker 2: coach when I got to beat Is that right? So yeah, Bruce,
Speaker 2: Bruce Cosley and he's getting up there too, man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they all are. We all are.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Chick, I appreciate the opportunity to look
Speaker 5: forward to do it in the future. Please look me up.
Speaker 5: I'm more than willing to come down here and spend
Speaker 5: some time helping.
Speaker 10: UH.
Speaker 5: I love talking about the Bengals, and I love the organization.
Speaker 5: I hope they turn this thing around next year and
Speaker 5: make it successful so that everybody has nothing to talk about.
Speaker 5: And then maybe bad football makes for great radio.
Speaker 4: We'll have to come up with a new touchline.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what we want to tire.
Speaker 2: Out their greatness because we remember how awesome this place
Speaker 2: was wherever we ho.
Speaker 5: How good was your show when they were winning? They
Speaker 5: went to the Super.
Speaker 3: Bowl, the place was packed. Yeah, it was just phenomenal.
Speaker 2: So on behalf of my partner, Bruce Kazerski, our engineer awesome,
Speaker 2: Mike Mills, and back at the studio Sean McMahon and
Speaker 2: Danny Gleason. This is the Chickster Chick Ludwig saying thanks
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