WEBVTT - Tri-State Chevy Dealers Bengals Postgame Show 12/14/2025 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:08.200 This is the Tri State Chevy Dealer's postgame Sports Talk 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:12.200 live from Buffalo Wings and Rings presented by R and 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:15.280 L Carriers. Postgame sports Talk is brought to you and 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:19.920 part by Pellow Windows and Door making life brighter. Pella 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:24.320 Now pay Later Carrier and your local carrier dealers turn 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:29.040 to the experts. Carrier Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Tave 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:34.600 Sheldon five one three five one three, toph Postman Law 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:39.880 Injured call eight four to four Postman Others promise Postman 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:44.760 delivers R and L Carriers. 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By 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:52.720 Carlin five one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand and Bruce, 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:56.840 I'd like to take this opportunity to declare the Cincinnati 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:02.880 Bengals twenty twenty five season d dead on departure at 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:08.320 pay Course Stadium on Sunday today, bruised, battered, bloodied, and 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:12.560 not just beaten, but annihilated and shut out for the 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:16.760 first time in the Joe Burrow era by the Baltimore Bullies. 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.520 Man does to get any worse than this. 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:21.880 I think you should get your blood pressure up a 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:22.840 little bit there, chick. 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.040 Maybe have another coffee, Maybe you have another yes, yes, yeah, 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.400 this is just the moralizing defeat. 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:30.920 You know, your opposing quarterback, as good as he is, 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:35.400 completes eight eight passes. He completes eight passes against your defense. 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.680 They went twenty four to nothing. I mean, that shouldn't 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:40.040 happen in this league. They were only ran for one 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.720 hundred and fifty. I mean they say only because they 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.840 put they put up all those points against this We 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:47.960 moved the ball off to doutfield. But when you got 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.240 the red zone, that the thirty yard line whatever, I 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:52.960 think we were over three or oh for four down 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:54.480 there were we and we didn't even get a field 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:55.000 goal attempt. 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:59.640 No, no, it was It was bad all the way around. 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:03.560 And Joe Burrow said this week, well he wants to 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:08.480 have fun playing football. Well, today was not fun for anybody, 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.799 and that includes the fans. And I've got to give 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:15.120 a shout out to all the spectators who made it 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:19.600 down to pay Corpse Stadium today. Ten degrees minus one 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:24.840 degree Winshield. And we're talking to fans here at Wings 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.640 and Rings and they're telling me who were at the game, 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.640 snow was not removed from the seats. 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:33.000 So they're upset about that. 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.160 And they weren't allowed to bring cardboard in to stand 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.680 on or sit on to make life a little bit 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:39.400 more comfortable. 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.160 I don't know about all that. I wasn't there. You 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.040 got more contact with the people that were at the ball. Again, 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.440 I'm just I'm just the average retired fans sitting in 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.760 my home watching the game on TV, wondering. And I 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:52.839 played in cold games like this, I know it takes 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.520 a lot of steam out of a team. It either 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.880 it either fires you up to work through the cold 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:01.240 when you're successful, or just moralizing when you're not. And 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.800 they had some situations early in that game where they 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:05.880 moved it, they made some plays, and then all of 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.680 a sudden, we take a sack. You know, that first 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.800 drive was huge. We're in scorefield goal range. 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:11.680 We take a sack. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.400 I don't think, I mean, Joe can't make that Play's 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:16.960 that's when I as an offensive lineman, I remember countless 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:18.960 times running back to the hell Town Boomer throw the 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:23.360 damn ball, you know, and it's it's as the aggressive 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.160 offensive lineman that we were, we had a clock in 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.800 our head too, and we never wanted a Boomer to 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:30.320 get hit. And so what he did it was like, 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.800 we'll throw the damn ball, but it's it's it's a 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:34.920 catch twenty two because sometimes. 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.279 You throw it and they catch it, and that's that's 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:37.200 a that's bad. 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.880 The shutout was the Ravens first since crushing the Tennessee 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:47.120 Titans twenty one to nothing on October fourteen, twenty eighteen. Meanwhile, 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:51.200 the Bengals suffered their first zero since a twenty to 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:57.000 nothing lost to Baltimore in Cincinnati on September ten, twenty seventeen. 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:01.479 That year's season opener in Baltimore. Improves to seven and seven. 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:03.920 They're still in the race here in the AFC North, 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:08.160 while the Bengals with all this talent, falls to four 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:12.080 and ten and they can never protect the home field. 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:15.080 They're two and five at pay Course Stadium. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.000 I don't know that it has much to do with 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:18.880 it beating the Ravens. I know Joe doesn't have a 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.599 big reund good record against the Ravens. Not many teams 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:25.279 do over the last uh Lamar Jackson era. But it's 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:28.720 it's it seems like there's a stat out there. I 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:32.760 heard today thirty seven percent of the time that Higgins 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.640 and and and Chase and Burrow on the field thirty 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.400 seven concent of time since they've been together. And that's 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.719 that's the sad part. There's there's so much invest in 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.440 those guys and in the franchise that that they got 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:45.039 us stay healthy. We got to find a way that 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.840 just keep them healthy. But but at the same time, 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.599 we got to fund the defense too. We gotta we 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:52.920 gotta put some sub butts on that defense line. We 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.000 gotta put some young linebackers, a couple. They played well 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.200 today at times and then they played badly at times. 0:05:58.480 --> 0:05:59.880 You know, that's what you get with a young group. 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:06.520 Two Joe Burrow interceptions, several drop passes, horrible horrible clock 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:10.720 management by head coach Zach Taylor, and the usual defensive 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:14.480 breakdowns helped cause Cincinnati's poorest. 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.960 Performance not just this year but in years. 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:23.200 And man, it spoils the return. May I say of 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.039 Jeff Blake as the ruler of the jungle, He's a 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.680 friend of mine. He was a great player here, Uh 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:33.320 never appreciated and uh just man, it's just sickening to 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.679 watch the Bengals fall twenty four to nothing. 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:37.760 So, yeah, you know they were they were down by 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.080 a significant margin there early in the late and the 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:41.920 third and early and the fourth, and they just kept 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.520 taking their thirty five forty seconds to snap the ball, 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.520 and I kept wondering, when they're gonna pick this up. 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:48.279 They got to get three or four, but they gotta 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.000 get three possessions. And then they were down a fourth 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.040 possession and then they said it was over. We're just 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.200 gonna run. And they still kept telling the guys. I 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.320 was watching the game with my boys that that's that's 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:58.240 five runs in a row. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.000 Six minutes to go in the game, that's five runs 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:00.560 in a row. 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.640 Yeah, you know when when they ran the ball, they 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:05.680 should have been passing. When they passed the ball, they 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:06.480 should have been running. 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:08.480 It's when you. 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:12.160 Get when you get into a second and a third 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.400 and short, I mean run the football. 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:18.160 Deception is your is your enemy. When you think it's 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.240 your friend, you know, you think you can run that 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:21.840 ball on that fourth and two and you'll get it. 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.320 Because they think you're gonna throw it and you don't. 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.920 It looks bad when your your money guys are your 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:29.040 quarterback and your receiver. 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.840 Yeah, you know that's your money. That's your money backs. 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.760 And especially with the Zach Taylor, it's his religion to 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:36.600 throw the ball first and not run it. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.800 Jamar Chase targeted sixteen times, ten receptions, one hundred and 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.280 fifteen hundred and twenty yards. Yeah, great day, Yes, but 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.600 who else did you know you had you had Tyler Hudson, 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:46.800 Hudson get five catches or four catches? 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.320 Who else? Who else stepped up today to help help out? Uh? 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.880 Not Yosebash. You know what happens. No, not Yoshi Vash. 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:55.880 You know what happens on those cold days. Those gloves 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:59.040 that tackified gloves, they get almost slicked because they're so cold. 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.400 They're like they're frozen. And I don't know why. 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:04.120 There has to be something that they can make a 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.200 cold weather glove or whatever, because you could see clearly 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.560 that both teams had a problem with that. Early the 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.720 one flipped off and Chase's hands and they intercepted. And 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:16.640 then the very next possession, Lamar throws one and it 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.920 flips off the receiver's hands and we intercepted it. 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.240 So you don't see much of that. 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:21.560 Later. 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.880 You saw the drop Tinsley in the end zone. The 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:26.680 ball should have been caught. You saw the drop by 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:29.280 Yoshi Vash. You should have been caught. And that seems 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:33.000 to be repeat offense there for him. 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.480 You are listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.200 sports talk presented by RNL Carriers. 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.679 He's Bruce Kazerski. This is chick Ludwig. 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.960 We're on US forty two in Union, Kentucky till eight 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.960 thirty tonight, and if you can't join us, feel free 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:55.040 to call bad Football mixed for Great Radio at five, one, three, seven, nine, seven, 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:00.160 eight hundred, The Big One, Bruce and the Chickster on 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:04.239 seven hundred WLW, and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:08.319 Welcome back to. 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:11.959 The Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame sports Talk presented by 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:13.080 RNL Carriers. 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:13.760 We are at. 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:19.000 Wings and Rings in beautiful Union, Kentucky on US forty two. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.920 Come on out. Bruce Kezerski and I are here till 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:23.679 eight thirty tonight. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:24.120 And we made it. 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.520 The weather cleared up beautifully for the show. It's not 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:27.440 even cold in here. 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.800 I'll admit I was a little panicky last night. 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.200 I was at the studio, had to drive back to 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:34.680 the Miamisburg War Room. 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:35.640 It was ugly. 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.800 It took me two hours, and I was worried about today. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:40.640 I don't doubt it. 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.720 I family over the house for a Christmas party, and 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:44.960 I was worried about them. 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:45.480 Even getting home. 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.640 Hey, I appreciate the fan. Tyler from Union coming up 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.640 wanting a picture your first picture. 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:52.760 Of the sea. 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:54.640 Yeah, first first photo of the season. 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:56.160 Usually it's the Bengals city. 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.040 You know, how wack and photo Jedek you were, Oh 0:09:58.080 --> 0:09:59.840 my gosh, yeah, it almost broke. 0:09:59.880 --> 0:10:01.880 It broke his camera. 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:05.520 Phone, no doubt. But a shout out to Bristol and Brinley, 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:09.960 who are our servers today. Fantastic appreciate damn. I appreciate 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:13.000 all the fans coming out here in Union, Kentucky. 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.360 First first time I've been here. So it's nice out here. 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.400 Oh yeah, Bigs and Rings is absolutely awesome. And is 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.880 there a more misleading stat in football? Bruce Kazerski than 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:28.080 time of possession? The Bengals hauled the ball for nearly 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:35.160 forty minutes to twenty, doubling Baltimore's but Baltimore had all 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.959 the big plays in this game. The Bengals had some 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:42.400 great drives. They could not finish, They couldn't get they 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.079 couldn't convert on third downs. They converted a couple fourth 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.760 downs at the big time crunch time, but could not 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:49.880 get into the end zone. 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:50.280 All right, So. 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:52.679 Logically, you got to go into a game plan, any 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.760 game plan, but especially one where you're playing a high 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.480 scoring or an offense with Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry. 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:01.840 You got you got to own the clock. Yes, if 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:03.199 you have any chance at all, you got to own 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:06.160 the clock. Then you got to not have any turnovers. Well, 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.240 that didn't go so well. They had two turnovers. Man, 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.280 the first time they played them, the Ravens turned it 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.760 over five times to us. So again that was a 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.400 difference in the ball game. We ran the clock as 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.160 long as we could, We killed the clock, gave the 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.800 ball as few opportunities as we could. We turned it 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:25.000 two times in the scoring zone. I so, well, can't 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:25.280 do that. 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:26.960 Yeah, and uh. 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:33.480 The Bengals drive to Baltimore's you know, zero zero, drive 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.400 to the twenty five yard line, and on third and four, 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:38.200 Joe takes a sack. 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:39.280 Yeah, do that? 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:39.960 Got a punt? 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.360 Then the next time, the next drive, they drive to 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:47.800 Baltimore's twenty nine yard line and then the ball off 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:53.200 of off hands his hands interception. But what bothered me 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.480 most is that the really, to me, this game was 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:57.560 lost in the first half. 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.120 Bengals have the ball at the two minute warning of. 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:05.079 The first half, down seven to nothing, first down at 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.640 their own forty seven, a two yard run by some 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:14.840 ijp Ryan then two straight incompletions. You can't give them 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:18.360 the ball back there, and they did. And the next 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:23.280 thing we know, a lengthy forty two second drive, five plays, 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:27.720 eighty yards Zay Flowers twenty eight yard pass into the 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:31.240 end zone from Lamar Jackson. Fourteen to nothing at halftime 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:32.880 to me, game over. 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.920 You know, we had some big sacks, we had pressure 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.240 on Lamar all day long, but when it came right 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.719 down to it, we didn't get good enough coverage in 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:41.360 the secondary. 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:43.440 You know, I'm not sure. 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.480 I don't want to point fingers to any one of 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.840 those guys, but the disconnection between the linebackers and the 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.960 secondary is killing us. In the passing game, sometimes we 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.040 have pass rush. Sometimes you don't have pass rush. It 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.080 sounds like you never know what you're gonna get here, 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.360 you know, you open it up like a box of chocolates. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.000 You open up, you never know what you're gonna get. 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.040 Hey, let's go out through the phones. Do we have 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:03.439 Matt in Springfield? 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:07.320 I mean, what's going on is always shit? 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:07.800 How you doing? 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:08.000 Man? 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.040 Oh good? Man good? What is on your mind? 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:11.400 Matt? 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:12.960 Oh Man? 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.760 I mean other than watching the Bengals bungalize another game? Bro, 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.040 Like they didn't even look like they even wanted to 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.360 even show up at that game of the day. That's how 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.360 apathetic they look like. You said the time of possession 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.720 was out of whack, because I mean they were just 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.120 milking the cloth, like I don't know what they were doing. 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.280 They weren't really, I don't know. This season has been 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.080 cursed from the get go, and it's just it's truly 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:41.040 sad how we are wasting Joe Burrow's career. Well, I 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:44.040 should say, weave the organization. I mean, think about it. 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.280 He turns thirty for no year, he didn't turn thirty, right, 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:49.960 so I mean, yeah he went there in age yeah 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.400 point not okay, yea, So he turns thirty next year, 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.280 But I mean how many more? I mean, well, I 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.840 can't really say anything because I mean, look at Philip Rivers, 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.600 forty four years old. He's out here in the ball 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.360 but I mean he's still he's not getting any younger. 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:04.760 I mean, it's just. 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:07.800 I don't know what to do with this team anymore. 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.560 I think, honestly though, that there needs to be a 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.760 change with the coach. Head coach zag Taylor is a 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.040 nice guy and all, but we need to get a 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:19.200 fresh face in there, because it's apparent that whatever Zach 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.360 Tannler has brought to the table as officially. 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:22.640 Ran his team. 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:24.920 This is what the third season in a row of 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:25.760 no playoffs? 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.480 So correct. 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.200 I don't know what else to do. I think they 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:30.320 need to just this is. 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.720 How quick and then, Matt, this is how quick an 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:37.520 NFL career goes. This is already Joe's sixth season. He's 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:41.080 twenty nine years old. They are wasting his talent. We've 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.440 got to run. Hey, we got to run. I appreciate 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:47.280 the call. Do we have Trey and eaton. 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:49.760 Kicks there? How you doing? 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:51.560 All right? 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:51.800 Man? 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:53.560 Home to the Eagles? What's going on? 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.320 Absolutely? The homeown Eagles. 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:01.000 I just want to say the uh the. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:06.680 What Joe Joe was They were trying to say where 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:08.520 he uh didn't want to come? 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:09.480 All right? 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:18.920 All right, okay? Do we have Bryce in Cincinnati? 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:19.360 My man? 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:24.840 Bryce? And Anderson? Hey, Chick, I mean all right, Bryce, 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:25.600 something next? 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:27.880 You know what? Hang on a second, Bryce, Hang on 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.280 a second. I'm telling Bruce Kazerski that Bryce, my buddy 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.479 here in Cincinnati is the next Lance McAllister? 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.440 Oh is that right? Yes? Nice to be right, Bryce. 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:39.760 Well Bruce. 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.880 Bruce, we've met before that baseball game. 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:47.120 Is that who you are? 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:48.800 Yeah? 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:53.360 Yes, all right? I think Chickster met you too, didn't he? 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:54.800 Yes? 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:55.200 He did? 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:57.520 All right? All right? 0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:58.640 Bryce? What's on your mind? 0:15:58.680 --> 0:15:58.880 Man? 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.880 I mean the defense was giving the Bengals opportunities early 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:08.440 and just they entered the Baltimore's possession, there's a five 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:13.480 times does zero points came out of it? Horrible offense 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:18.200 and just pick six during your early red zone trips. 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.280 I mean, yeah, so much. 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:28.000 The coverage, well, the coverage was good in the beginning 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.560 of this game, and then they decide to blitz and 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:36.080 what happened. Yeah, Rashen Ali on a screen pass Toast 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.000 thirty yards untouched, seven and nothing Baltimore. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:40.160 That's Toast. Yeah. 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:42.920 The game plan originally was well, it worked, worked well, 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.480 we went we went right down the field. Timely mistakes, Bryce, 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.160 You know how that goes you in any in any sports, 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:51.280 you're playing a timely mistake. You know, your boot a ball, 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.600 ground ball, there should be a throwing an out right, 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.160 it's not, and all of a sudden it's snowballs offense 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:57.400 or defensively against you. 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:01.240 Same thing happened today. They had possis they took a sack. 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:03.360 The next time they went down there, they threw that 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.760 pick that bounced off Chase his hands and uh and. 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.720 After that, I just I don't think he had enough. 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.560 Any any receivers really work hard enough to get open 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:14.199 if you if you can, if you can look at 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:15.920 the way that win when he dropped back to pass 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:23.920 all those times it was Jamar, it was Hudson or nobody. 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:27.000 And which no Bengals victory is winning going away. 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:28.520 Nothing is ever easy. 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:35.600 And the yardage oh second, one yard, one yard seemed 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:39.560 like a trip to the orthodonist for this team. 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.600 It is unbelievable when you're when your running backs have 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.399 so many checkdown receptions for two yard games, you're not 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.399 gonna win ball games. You know, you appreciate them bailing 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.760 the offense out with a two yard reception, but they're 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.959 getting whacked and they're not getting any positive yardage. 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:57.240 I mean, I'm not I'll check what during the next. 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.840 Break exactly how many yards the received the running backs 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.800 out of the backfield. Uh, because they had one hundred 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:08.199 yards total rushing. But receptions is what I'm referring to, 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.120 is Joe having to check down Chase Brown had seven 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:15.920 receptions for thirty seven yards. Tyler Hudson had three receptions 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:19.880 for sixteen yards, Tinsley one for sixteen. You know sample two. 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:23.960 They're they're, they're, they're all All those tight end running 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.560 back routes are checkdown routes. And because there's not anything 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:29.160 down the field when they double cover Chase and there's 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:32.879 no Higgins to spread the defense, you gotta have a 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:36.040 Yoshivash or Tinsley get open down the field. 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:37.480 And they're just not getting it done. 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.359 Hey, if we've reached the top of the hour, break, 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.600 half hour down, two and a half hours to go, 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.520 five point three, seven, four, nine, seven hundred. The big 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.879 one are the numbers to dial. I've got my coffee, 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:55.840 I've got my computer. 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Man, it's off to be here with my man, 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:06.880 Bruce Kazerski, and we're breaking down the Bengals twenty four 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:10.879 to zern shutout loss to the Baltimore Ravens like a 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:14.520 wrecking ball. And just as a quick aside, here Bruce 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:18.960 watching the monitors and watching Philip Rivers at. 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:22.040 Age forty four. How crazy is that. 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:22.399 That this dude is playing. 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:24.720 It's amazing And five years out of retirement, he's on 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:26.520 the Hall of Fame, and he was on the Hall 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:29.040 of Fame list for final voting, and now he's got 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.320 to come off of because he's back active again. Yes, 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:35.000 we hope someday to see Joe play in his thirties. 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:38.880 Oh man, Yeah, because right now it's it's questionable. He's 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:42.320 getting beaten battered. Today was decent. They had good protection most. 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:42.560 Of the night. 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:47.199 But yeah, the thing about this whole situation is you 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:50.760 have a window when you have a franchise era type 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:53.560 player like they do, and they got a couple of them, 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:56.840 they're all going to get old together. And when that happens, 0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:01.960 it's it's disappointing because you it's an opportunity. Now what happens, 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:04.200 you gotta go through the whole rebuilding process again. 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:07.920 You know, that's the question you have with with the staff. 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:11.119 Do you change the staff because they're so in tuned 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.240 with Joe and Jamar and and all those guys like 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:16.359 to do offensively, or do you force something to happen 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:18.840 defensively because whatever you're doing on that side of the 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:19.800 ball is not working. 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:24.760 They're going to have to draft heavy defense and add 0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:26.640 some players in free agency. 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:28.399 Well, they're gonna have some money back because they're not 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:32.840 gonna worry about paying uh Hendrix. But I don't know 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:35.600 that that's the best thing either. You lose a great 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:37.479 pass rusher like that. Now, we've had some really good 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:39.639 play in the last few weeks out of Osai, and 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:40.160 today it. 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:43.200 Was Miles Murphyles Murphy stepped up. 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:45.520 To but is it gonna be consistent? If it's gonna 0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:47.080 be consistent, then we're okay with it. 0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:50.840 Let's go out to the phones. Is Mike and Indiana 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:51.280 with us? 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:53.240 Sure? 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:55.359 How are you all right? Mike? 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:56.639 What's on your mind? 0:22:57.480 --> 0:22:58.240 A liquid? 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:00.439 Is that my I got? I was talking to my 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:02.720 buddy Joe from Bridgeton new calls here a lot, and 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:06.120 we call it every single time. And this is back 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:09.240 in the Super Bowl when they win. Every single time 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:11.760 that the Bengals need to score to win or to 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:15.000 tie it, Joe Burrow chokes and gets picked off every 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:19.240 single time. And I guess we've been saying that for 0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:21.720 years and everyone's been saying, oh, that's not true. Joe 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:25.520 Burrows the greatest whatever. But why is it when when 0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:28.440 they lose, like you said earlier today, when you can't 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:31.040 take a sack in the red zone, a quarterback autoo 0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:34.080 by Now, why isn't anyone ever going to Joe and 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:36.840 be like, dude, it's not the defense, it's you that's 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:38.359 losing the games for us. 0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:41.840 Well, I want to go back to the Carson Palmer era. 0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:46.080 They were as good offensively as there was in the league. 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.959 They were playing Pittsburgh in the playoff game and Carson 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:53.320 got hit early in that game by a defensive tackle 0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:56.639 that you should play for Cincinnati, yes, and blew is 0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.520 acl out and he came back and he had the 0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:02.280 same arm, he had the same reading, he was reading 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:04.240 the defense of the same but he was not the 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:07.399 same player, you know, And this is what's gonna happen 0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:11.680 if they don't win ball games on the defensive side 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:13.800 of the ball. You know, for years when we had 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:20.280 the previous coach, we won games defensively seventeen thirteen or 0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:24.000 fifteen to ten. You know that's not gonna happen with 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:26.520 this group. We have to outscore everybody, so we have 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:29.960 to go for the jugular on nearly every drive. And 0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:33.159 when you do that, you're putting the guy in the 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.800 position to get beat up. And there's only so much 0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:38.720 physically that the guy could take on before he gets 0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:42.640 jittery and nervous feet. You know, I just I'm defending 0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:44.920 the guy because I've seen it happen over and over 0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:45.200 and over. 0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:46.200 It's a cyclical thing. 0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.480 And if they can get him back on track for 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:52.600 the start of the next year, finish this year strong, 0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:55.080 and start next year and keeping healthy, they got a 0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:58.480 chance to save what you're looking at right now, because 0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:02.720 you know, you can't defend the tip balls. The tip 0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:05.800 ball that happened today, the tip the screen pass, or 0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:08.520 he read that defense perfect. Last week. He threw the 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:10.679 ball we're supposed to throw it. It just didn't get 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.119 it over the guy's head. If you're watching the UH 0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:16.200 the Lions Rams game. UH, they Rams did the same 0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:19.560 thing and and Hutchinson picked it off, ran seventy seventy 0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:22.119 yards down inside the twenty yard line for the UH 0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:24.960 for the Lions. So that happens to all the great 0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:27.919 quarterbacks at some time. These defensive ends are taller and 0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:30.760 taller and taller. You have to you have to bridge 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:33.840 all of that with giving him time to get his 0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:34.720 body healthy again. 0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:37.200 I don't appreciate the call. 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:40.800 I don't think Yeah, I don't think Ball is gonna 0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:44.199 be with Cincinnati in two years. I think he he 0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:47.119 made a point to the fans, going, I'm too competitive 0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:47.960 for this organization. 0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:48.840 You all ain't winning. 0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:51.000 This defense is not gonna get good for the next 0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:53.439 two years. And I'm not waiting another two years for 0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:56.320 a rebuild. I'm almost thirty. I'm out of here, and 0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:57.119 you guys will get. 0:25:59.560 --> 0:25:59.919 And you want. 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.800 They cost the money, It doesn't matter you're they're the lowest. 0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:06.200 The Cincinnati Bengals are the lowest paid organization in football. 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.560 There's thirty one other quins that can pay better than 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:09.400 what they're and. 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:10.840 So that is incorrect. 0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:11.919 That's incorrect. 0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.520 Every team has to pay at least eighty percent of 0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.840 the salary cap. So they are at the salary cap. 0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:22.760 So and they're paying their offensive players they. 0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:24.840 Need, they're paying some defensive players. 0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.520 They're going to get rid of the the twenty nine 0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:32.400 million that we're getting fleeced by Trey Hendrickson four. That's 0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:34.040 going to be off the books. They've got to get 0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:35.160 more defensive players. 0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.520 And with that, they lost a couple of good safeties 0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:38.160 two years ago. 0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.399 That's exactly right, guys. We appreciate the call. Thank you 0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:45.960 so much. Let's move on. Bob in Houston, Bob. 0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:50.800 Hey Fellas a first of all, appreciate you guys taking 0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:55.960 my call. Yes, sir a, I'm just kind of curious, 0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:58.119 so when we're really going to have some serious conversation 0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:01.639 about what really need to be discussed, and that's what 0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:05.359 the coaching change. Uh you know, it's it's time and 0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.840 time again. And and chimp, you just mentioned it earlier 0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:13.399 about the time management. I don't I don't know his 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:15.680 skills as far as making halftime a judgments. 0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.280 I guess he is, but uh but it. 0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:21.560 Sure doesn't it sure doesn't show, you know, when they 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:22.800 come out in the second half. 0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.000 So well, I don't you know, everybody. 0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:27.320 Everybody talks about what a great guy act is, and 0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:30.199 I agree, you know, a good a good dude, but 0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:33.760 you know, hey, it's time to move on this guy's bottoms. 0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:35.240 We're just not getting it done. 0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:36.040 Bob Is. 0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:39.200 The first half was unfolding today. All I could think 0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:43.439 of is when you think of the AFC North with 0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:48.680 the bad weather in November and December and January, you 0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:53.719 think of a physical division, the ability to run the football, 0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:57.040 and it's not in Zach Taylor's religion. 0:27:57.440 --> 0:27:58.919 He wants to throw it first. 0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.399 We had a one hundred yards rushing today. That is 0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:04.919 not a little thing against that defense. It's not a 0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:08.840 little thing. But what we're missing is the guys dropping balls, 0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:12.800 the guys that you know not making that big block, 0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:15.639 or when you have the ball for forty minutes in 0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:19.400 the ball game and the opposing quarterback only throws eight completions, 0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:23.360 you know, eight out of twelve, Lamar Jackson eight for twelve, 0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:25.240 you should not lose twenty four to nothing. 0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:30.640 And last week eight of ten on third down conversions, 0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.760 today three of fifteen. They were better on fourth down 0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:36.520 than third down three out of five on fourth down. 0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:41.280 The conversation about the staff you can't come out in 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:43.600 public unless you're ready to make a change. 0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:44.040 In the mid season. 0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:46.680 And the one thing that's not on that staff the 0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:50.880 long list of coaches that can be head coached someplace else. 0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.400 So if you remove Zack now in the middle of 0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.960 the season, you're shutting down the offense because he's calling 0:28:58.000 --> 0:28:58.600 the plays. 0:28:58.920 --> 0:28:59.920 And who do you turn it over to? 0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.120 Who has the interim head coach until you make the 0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:05.720 decisions the off season? And the Bengals don't do that, 0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.560 but maybe once in the entire franchise history. And I 0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.440 can't believe for a second that there hasn't been discussion 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:15.880 at the Brown holiday dinner table about just that. 0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:21.800 Thank you, that's a very good point. 0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:26.240 I just do you think that you might be considered 0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.200 in the offseason or are we just going to hang on? 0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.880 I think that's an executive decision that that you and 0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.240 I will not be invited to to to attend. But 0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:36.720 I'd be willing to bet that they are having that 0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.640 discussion on a daily basis. What do we do, What 0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:41.400 do we do with this franchise? Where are we going 0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.160 to take this? They all know we have to get 0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.239 help defensively. I guarantee it They're not dummies. They've been 0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:50.720 doing football for their entire life. Everybody in that family. Uh, 0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:52.920 Duke Tobin maybe on chopping block. You know, if he 0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:58.400 doesn't uh for some miracle have a defense as in 0:29:58.400 --> 0:29:59.880 the last three weeks, is going to come out of No. 0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.960 But I think the decisions are already. 0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:04.160 Made, Bob. 0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:06.440 And one of my favorite Mike Brown stories is I 0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:10.080 am in his apartment at Georgetown College during training camp. 0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.880 We're discussing Corey Dillon, we're discussing other players. 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.440 The phone rings on the end table. 0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:20.840 He moves, He gets up, picks it up and says, oh, hi, Punky, 0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:25.200 meaning his daughter Chick was just leaving. So that was 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:28.040 my cue to get out of there. So but you're right, 0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:30.240 Bruce is right. We're not going to be invited to 0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:33.200 that conversation, but you know it will get mentioned in 0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.120 this offseason, no doubt about it. 0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:37.520 And we appreciate the call. And we've got a break. 0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.800 You are listening to the tri Stage Chevy Dealer's post 0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:44.520 game sports talk. He's Bruce Kazerski, this is Chick Ludwig. 0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:48.840 We're presented by RNL Carriers on seven hundred WLW in 0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:56.000 Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back to the tri Stage 0:30:56.040 --> 0:31:01.520 Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL on seven 0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:06.080 hundred WLW in Cincinnati, ESPN fifteen thirty. He's Bruce Kozerski, 0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:11.040 just Chick Ludwig. Awesome to be with you today, man. 0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:14.880 Twenty four to nothing. The Bengals get smoked at home 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.880 by the Baltimore Ravens and at four and ten, two 0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.800 and five at home. Bengals are out of the playoffs 0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:26.280 and gosh, can they even play spoiler because they've got 0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:31.360 Miami next week, got Miami and then the Arizona Cardinals 0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:33.800 at home and then the Cleveland Browns at home. 0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:39.640 No, man, it's uh yeah, it would be low impact games. Yes, 0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:41.880 it might be important for guys on this ball club though, 0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.200 Oh yeah, because guys are playing for their future. 0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.000 It really is. Yes, they're playing for their jobs. 0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:47.440 This is that. 0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:49.760 This is the old expression, what do you do when 0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:53.440 no one's watching? Because no one's watching in terms of 0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:55.240 the playoff race, So the large part of the country 0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:58.320 zoned out, But the people in Cincinnati, the organization are 0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.880 fine tuned on what's happening for every player on that 0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:01.640 field right now. 0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:06.160 Every move is every move is being scrutinized absolutely. 0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:09.080 How you carry yourself, how you play, and uh, do 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:10.520 you want it the desire? 0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:11.160 You can't. 0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.240 You can't be the guy off that jumped off the 0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:16.560 train and and quit on this team because that's the 0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:19.280 fastest way out of it, not only not only the Bengals, 0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:20.040 but out of the NFL. 0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:20.959 Correct. 0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:29.440 Yes we uh a line from Jim Lippencott, former personnel 0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:32.320 boss of the Bengals. Uh rings in my ears all 0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:36.200 the time. You don't quit the NFL. The NFL quits you. 0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:38.560 Okay. 0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:43.880 And the wide receiver that just got released third round 0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:44.640 draft pick. 0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:49.960 Last Yes, this was not a flyer. 0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:54.760 This a flyer is Benny Brazil Uh in the seventh round, 0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:58.280 a sprinter on the LSU track team. Okay, that's a flyer. 0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:03.560 This was a third round draft pick. And he's uh, 0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:04.160 he's gone. 0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.600 I will I will say check that the professional football 0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:10.040 is one thing, but the money that these guys make 0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:13.000 is another thing. And some of these guys are grown 0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.280 men and can handle the responsibility of playing the football 0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:19.680 and pocketing the money, and some guys can't. Some guys 0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:21.440 don't deal with they get the money in their pocket 0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:23.320 that they're they gotta have too much fun. 0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:24.640 They gotta they gotta. 0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:26.560 Go out with their buddies and their they're old chums 0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.360 from the neighborhood and they got a party with their 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:31.240 college flunkys and and before you know it, their career 0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.240 is over and they they've just flushed it down the 0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.840 toilet by not taking care of their business as a man. 0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:42.080 Yeah, and Jermaine Burton, Uh, if the leaders on this team, 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:46.520 the Joe Burrows and the T Higgins and Jamar Chase, 0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:49.440 if they couldn't bring him along, then didn't There's. 0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:50.640 There's no help for him, no hope for him. 0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:53.840 Especially you know when you are that guy with that 0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:56.080 kind of ability and you've got Jamar Chase and T 0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.520 Higgins in front of you that have all that have 0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:02.360 both been nicked up from time time and the required 0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:06.000 to step in as a necess necessity to help the 0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:08.680 offense succeed, and your inability to do it because of 0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:13.120 your lack of effort, like a concentration, uh late for everything. 0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:14.960 And then you know it's no surprise they got rid 0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:16.920 of him. Surprise didn't happen sooner? 0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:21.120 Do we still have Mike in Los Angeles? 0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:23.160 Yes, you do. 0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:26.520 Chick and cause thank you, yes, welcome. 0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:30.239 I appreciate it, chicken, cause it sounds like one of 0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.279 those little diamond stores down in the Diamond DisCrit Cup 0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:34.120 in New York. 0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:35.880 You know, a little little front or something. 0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:36.040 You know. 0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.239 I'm time, yeah, chick and there you go. 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:43.719 Kick and cause that's oh yeah, guys. I would like 0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.400 to talk about football, but I would prefer not to 0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.719 speak about the Bengals right now. I think there's more 0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:54.400 interesting things to talk about when it comes to the NFL. Okay, 0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:58.359 I think the Jags right now, I'm not a big 0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:01.399 Jags fan, but I'm just looking at what's going on, 0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:03.840 and this might be the surprise of the year in 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:04.480 the NFL. 0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:08.320 I think you're right there. They're right there with the Patriots. 0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:12.080 Patriots lost today, but they're they're a good team. 0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:12.560 I think. 0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:14.520 I think you're right the Jags and the pay and 0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.080 the Patriots. And it's kind of like the old guard 0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:20.359 is fading. You know, the Kansas City's out this week, 0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:21.640 Mahomes got hurt again. 0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:23.720 Got hurt this time. Allan is fading. 0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:25.839 I mean, their team's wins, but they're down twenty one 0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:31.399 points before they start to play. 0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:30.560 You always. 0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:33.920 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Club ahead. 0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:38.080 Very well quarterback. 0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:42.879 Yeah, I look at the Bills last week and then 0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:47.680 uh with the with the way uh Alan brought him 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.520 back against our club, and then how he did it 0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:53.440 again today. It's like, can you always be just a 0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.239 second but you can't successfully win a Super Bowl with 0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:57.880 it's just a second half team, can't you? 0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:01.759 Cause no, I don't think. I don't think that you can. 0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.759 I know that everything averages out. I'm a I'm an 0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:09.680 odds kind of guy. An offensive an offensive unit, defensive unit. 0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:11.760 They're gonna have good plays, You're gonna have bad plays. 0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:14.719 It seems like everything Buffalo does is horrible in the 0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.360 first half and lights out in the second half. And 0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:19.840 and I don't see how that can continue. 0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:22.560 U But uh you know they're they're thinking they can 0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:23.239 prove it to us. 0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:25.680 Yeah, you're right. 0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:29.440 It appears I'm driving their coach absolutely out of his mind. 0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.040 Probably mcdarmott, I would he's driving him. 0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:34.680 But these h That's all I had, Guys, I just 0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:36.880 wanted to get your opinions on that. These two games 0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:38.880 that are on right now are pretty good. The Rams 0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:41.719 in the Denver Bronco's pretty good game. Well, you know, 0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:44.520 two different games. But anyway, thank you guys. I appreciate you. 0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:47.799 Appreciate you all right, Mike, and Uh, as you leave 0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:51.120 us here, wanted to let you know that, uh, the 0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:55.560 University of Dayton starguard from way back when Johnny Davis 0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:58.759 was a stud for the Portland Trailblazers. He came back 0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:01.160 to town and he's not only in the Hall of 0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:04.160 Fame University of Dayton's Athletic Hall of Fame, he picked 0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:10.040 up his degree yesterday. So fantastic news. Because Mike always says, 0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.960 chick don donnah. Heer from University of Dayton. So uh, 0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:16.960 shout out to Mike there. Hey do we have Mike 0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:18.040 and Cherry Grove? 0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:24.080 Mike, Hey, how you doing a couple of things real fast? 0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:28.480 I think today's game showed how valuable t Higgins this 0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:31.600 is a team, because it seems to me when he's 0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:33.920 not playing, the offense. 0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:36.680 Just doesn't look as good. I don't know how you 0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:37.400 feel about that. 0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:38.680 Uh the other. 0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:42.160 Yeah, yeah, you know it's Mike. 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.200 Uh so go ahead. I'm sorry. 0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:47.279 It's like having a fork and a knife at the 0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:48.080 plate at the table. 0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:49.400 You know, you can cut that stake. 0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:51.479 Up with the with the fork if you try real hard. 0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:53.680 And that's what that's what Jamarch is trying to do. 0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:55.839 He's trying to cut the defense all by himself right now. 0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:57.879 And when you put Niggins in there, now you got 0:37:57.960 --> 0:37:59.600 now you got the doing set. You can do whatever 0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:00.160 you want with them. 0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:04.239 And that that's that's the toughest, maybe the toughest duo 0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.959 in the NFL. And that makes that makes everybody underneath better. 0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:10.319 It makes those tight ends better. It makes the room 0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:15.080 for for Chase the running back better, because right now 0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:16.360 there was no room for him today. 0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:19.000 I agree, Mike a. Secki. 0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:23.440 Of course he was hurt for a little bit. When 0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:24.120 I watched him. 0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:29.000 Play, first second quarter, he's making catches, he's looking great, 0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:32.720 and then all of a sudden, I don't see him going. 0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:33.280 To him anymore. 0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:36.080 And Mike, do you feel that way too? 0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:36.879 Well? 0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:39.719 One catch for eleven yards in a sixty minute game. 0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:41.320 So he disappeared. 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:41.520 Now. 0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:45.960 Also, what wasn't made me mentioned or noticed was fant 0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:48.160 got nicked up early in that game and didn't play. 0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.799 And Fan and Hudson on the two blocking tight ends. 0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.520 Fan is a blocking tight end. It's often a good receiver. 0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:57.600 And so you lost a lot of the blocking purposes 0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:01.480 and in the second's more of the receiving kind of 0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.000 tight end. So you lose that candle blockhom Skill. 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.440 Hey Mike, we've got to run. We've reached the we've 0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:08.200 reached the bottom of the hour break. Thank you so 0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:10.600 much for the call. You're listening to the Tri State 0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:14.640 Chevy Dealers Post Game Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. 0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:18.000 We are at the Wings and Rings and Union Kentucky. 0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:22.000 Bruce Kazerski, Chick Ludwig Till eight thirty tonight on seven 0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:32.560 hundred WLW and Cincinnati ESPN fifteen thirty Welcome back to 0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:36.560 the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented by 0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:40.800 RNL Carriers. We're at the Wings and Rings and Union Kentucky. 0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:43.400 He's Bruce Kazerski, this is Chick Ludwig. 0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:49.080 Bengals fall to the Baltimore Ravens today, twenty four to nothing, 0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:53.920 first time they've been shut out since the twenty seventeen 0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:59.160 opener at home by against the Baltimore Raveni. Joe Flacco, 0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:04.600 Joe Flatt, Yes, incredible, but I love that bumper music. 0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:05.040 Yeah. 0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:10.440 The NFL Films. John Facenda, the voice of God, I 0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:10.840 love it. 0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.640 Yeah, yeah, think about all the games played between that 0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:17.640 one and this one, you know, and this offense should 0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:18.399 never get shut out. 0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:18.960 I don't care. 0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:22.960 I don't care what defense they're playing, the eighty five Bears, 0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:24.640 the Pittsburgh Steelers from seventy five. 0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:26.919 There's no way this offense should get shut out. 0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:31.200 And so we've heard conversation about on the phone calls 0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:33.959 today about lucking uninspired. 0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:35.239 And you know, I watched the game. 0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:38.960 I did not see that until until there was seven 0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:40.440 eight minutes left to go, and they gave me and 0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:43.120 they ran six straight running plays. Now they were down 0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:44.960 at that point pretty good at twenty four to nothing, 0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:48.320 but you got it still you gotta try to score. 0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:51.400 It just looks so bad. That's why some of these 0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:55.960 games that they haven't they've lost and only get gotten 0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:56.440 three points. 0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:58.800 At least they got three points something. 0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:02.920 There's pride in there and some that last seven eight 0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:04.279 minutes was kind of just laying down. 0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:11.320 Looking at the miscellaneous statistics report. 0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:12.560 The Ravens had. Now they only had the ball. 0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:18.359 Fortes okay to the Bengals forty, but eight plays of 0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:24.280 twenty two plus yards eight plays Bengals two a thirty 0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:27.799 four yard pass to Jamar Chase in a twenty seven 0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:29.440 yard pass to Jamar Chase. 0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:30.400 That's it. 0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:33.520 Over twenty yards Henry. Henry had a couple of long runs. 0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.120 The other running back had a couple of long runs. 0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:40.279 I think Jamar only ran the ball twice today, but 0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.239 he had a couple of big first down runs. 0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:45.719 They had pressure on him a lot. 0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.719 But when you don't defend the run well enough, one 0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:53.319 hundred and fifty yards rushing and twenty minutes fifty yards 0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:54.560 rushing in twenty minutes is. 0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:58.560 And only eight pass and only completerday pass? Is that unbelievable? 0:41:58.680 --> 0:41:58.960 Yeah? 0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:01.040 Oh my gosh, let's go out to the phones. Do 0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:02.719 we still have Jim and Milford? 0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:05.520 Am? 0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:06.240 I'm here? 0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:07.600 All right? 0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:10.680 What's Jim? 0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:15.719 Well, Bengals have ruined my Christmas and they're starting to 0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:17.560 ruin like every Sunday. 0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:19.120 I'm today. 0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:24.680 I took it really hard and just that you. Yeah, well, 0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:28.520 it's it's a reality, man. I mean, let's listen to 0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:35.160 these teams, La Rams, Seattle Seahawks, Denver Broncos, Dallas Cowboys, 0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:40.840 Green Bay Packers. These are organizations that are in it 0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:44.560 every year, right, and it comes from the top down. 0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:49.319 They have the good front office, they've got good scouting, 0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:52.840 they've got good talent, they've got good coaching. 0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:55.320 This Bengal team man. 0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:58.719 About the Pittsburgh Steelers time. They want to run him 0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.480 out of town. And he's never had a losing season. 0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:06.480 Yeah, the Cowboys can't win because they keep changing coaches. 0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:09.680 With all the talents that they have to keep changing coaches. 0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.880 So there's nothing stationary, nothing stable. There's no patience in 0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:13.560 the organization. 0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:20.160 Do you hear me? 0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:24.680 The Bengals have cancer. They just from from within. You've 0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.719 got you've got an owner that's cheap, that doesn't go 0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:32.480 out and play the free agent market. You've got a 0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:36.200 limited front office. You've got Duke Tobin that doesn't know 0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:37.000 what he's doing. 0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:38.759 You've got you. 0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:43.240 Know, you've got a staff and Zach Taylor that doesn't 0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:46.960 know what they're doing in the draft. You know, you've 0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:48.960 got a quarterback that's not happy. 0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:49.880 Uh. 0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:52.480 You've got receivers that keep. 0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:53.280 Dropping the ball. 0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:54.560 Uh. 0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:59.399 You know, you've got name other than Trey Henderson, Name 0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:03.439 me one star that's on the defense. They're all they're 0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:08.800 all talentless. They're all they're all like Canadian Football League 0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:12.240 defensive players just a joke. 0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:17.960 I mean, these are some wild jim These are some wild, 0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:26.120 far reaching accusations, umbrella type statements that are simply not true. 0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:29.960 They're not it's it's a it's a statement made out 0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:30.880 of the out of the depression. 0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:31.440 I get it. 0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:36.080 But remember that they're not drafting small college football players. 0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:40.279 They're drafting out of Georgia and Alabama and USC and 0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:43.160 U C, l A and LSU. They're drafted the all 0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:46.640 Americans that from across this country, that that proven they 0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:49.840 can play football with the best of them, and something happens, 0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.680 we get here and other teams make a play. 0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:56.120 And we don't. I I am. I'm as frustrated as 0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:56.359 you are. 0:44:56.360 --> 0:44:59.080 I play for the organization for twelve seasons and it's 0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:02.040 it is don right frustrating the heck right now because 0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:05.040 they have the talent to win. I was excited to 0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:06.839 go to the Super Bowl three or four years ago 0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:08.880 when they were there. I thought for sure they'd be 0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:10.560 back the next year and the next year and the 0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:13.080 next year. I thought we'd win two Super Bowls under 0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:16.719 Joe Burrow. I'm just doubting right now whether it's going 0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:18.440 to happen without. 0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:22.000 Some kind of change, significant changes or will he become 0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:25.759 a Dan Marine And also went to one Super Bowl 0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:30.520 with two great receivers and Mark Cooper and Mark Clayton. Clayton, 0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:33.160 Yeah so, and they got smoked by the forty nine 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.920 Ers in Stanford Stadium back in nineteen eighty four. 0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:37.799 There have been a lot of quarterbacks that get there 0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:42.400 and never win one, right, you know, Buffalo Jim Kelly, 0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:45.319 they were oer for four four years in air own lost. 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:48.319 Is that incredible? That's incredible you think about that? Yeah, 0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:49.160 just terrible. 0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:51.520 It's there's a lot of a lot of great players 0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:55.239 and for some reason something's missed. I don't know what 0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:58.200 it is. You just you just think that one of 0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:00.440 these days they're going to get it right. Three cracks 0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:02.839 at the super Bowl, two at the forty nine Ers, 0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:05.400 one at the Rams, and they've both escaped late in 0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:07.319 the game. They were all great games. All three of 0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:08.400 them were great games. 0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:12.399 All right, appreciate the call. Let's go to Is it 0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:15.840 Jerry in Indiana? That sounds like a salty from the 0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:16.480 music man? 0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:22.400 Yeah, yes, I'm not gonna Gary and Madison, Gary and 0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:23.200 Matt Maddison. 0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:30.879 Okay, all right, well you know, uh I heard something 0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:35.400 the other day. And we've had problems with offensive line, 0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:41.000 uh and letting us down ato at crucial times. So 0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:44.719 and you know, calls in induries to Joe Burrow and 0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:49.200 stuff like that, we have got to answer right there 0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:49.960 in Cincinnati. 0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:52.840 That's the worst part about it all. All we have 0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:54.840 to do is go over to UC bearcass. 0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:59.960 They've got the best offensive line evidently in the nation. 0:46:59.880 --> 0:47:00.359 But calls. 0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:03.879 They've only allowed one quarterback sack this past year. 0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:08.480 They allowed the country they allowed more. 0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:17.399 They had some great stretches where they protected Brendan Soresby. Yeah, 0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:20.279 he got sacked a few times in the last game 0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:25.080 here at TCU. But anyway, speaking of the offensive line. 0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:30.160 They were number one in the country allowed sacks a different. 0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:34.040 Level game or not, but you know, different level at 0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:36.200 the same time. But I'm glad you brought up the 0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:39.759 offensive line. I think it's is playing better. What hurt 0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:43.000 today is you get to the two yard line and 0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:46.160 he's good for this at least once every game, Orlando 0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:47.839 Brown with the. 0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:52.680 I think there's multiple players plays during the game when 0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.120 he does it. And he you know, he's a great guy, 0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:59.480 a very talented man, but he does leave early. Multiple 0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:02.800 times again, and they call it at the most inopportune times. 0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:03.200 That's right. 0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:05.040 You know they could call it. There was a right 0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:08.640 tackle for Oh, I'm not Kansas City who did it 0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:11.680 every snap and they very seldom ever called it. Yeah right, 0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:15.000 they called it on on Orlando at the most inopportune times. 0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:17.120 Yeah, at the two yard line. It got shoved back 0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:17.720 to the seven. 0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:22.160 And what happened a pick six that went uh yeah, 0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:25.879 van Ney got the interception and then gave the ball 0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:26.520 to Gilman. 0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:29.799 You run that far. I'm not running that far. You 0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:30.359 go that far? 0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:35.279 A low tie a loohi Gilman and h he went 0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:36.520 to distance and that was the game. 0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:37.439 That's right. 0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:39.640 So but yeah, the. 0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:46.640 Or Or lining up Osai with his helmet across the line, 0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:50.160 you know he's yeah, check with the ref. Hey am 0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:52.759 I all right, No, you're over Okay, I'll back up. 0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:56.160 It's they want the advantage on every snap and and 0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:57.839 they get as much of the ball as they can, 0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:00.799 and again inopportune time to do that. And he was 0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:02.839 clearly over the line. I saw that, and I called 0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:05.319 it before before they even threw the flag. I'm watching 0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:06.279 against he's off side. 0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:08.919 Watch Hey do we have Steve and Indian Hill. 0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:21.040 Hello, hello Steve, Hey, uh, I would like to ask you, 0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:29.120 as experts, maybe you Bruce, to list the last three 0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:34.120 worst losses that the Bengals. You know, it seems like 0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:37.040 week after week this is we lost the Jets. 0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:38.760 But your opinion. 0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:41.600 Is this one of the worst or. 0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:42.040 Where are you? 0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:45.959 The Jets, the Bears, and now this one all three 0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:49.480 but the big at the wrong time of the year. 0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:54.000 But the biggest blowout in Bengals history came against Minnesota. 0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:56.279 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this is. 0:49:56.920 --> 0:50:00.120 Because the largest spread and it happened four times and 0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:03.680 said club history before that game thirty seven points. 0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:06.520 I thought I was referring to crushing blows, but yeah, 0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:09.720 crushing blows this one, this one eliminates you. But really 0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:11.840 you can go back to the Jets and the Bears 0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:14.640 to look at the elimination. You know, there was there 0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:17.200 was two winnable games and and uh, they didn't play 0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:18.960 well enough to win those two games. And right then, 0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:22.279 you know, it's a different, different season if they win 0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:23.080 those two games. 0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:26.719 To have Joe Flacco bring that club back against them 0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:29.320 over and over and over with less than a minute 0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:34.120 to go, and you can't stop Colston Loveland on that 0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:38.319 lengthy touchdown pass in the midfield and then Garrett House 0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:40.920 to the house. Yeah, it's scary, just how bad that 0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:45.160 we played in those games. I forget the earlier caller 0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:48.440 who said, you know, the depression, the depression, and I 0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:51.239 when I try to go to sleep at night, I 0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:54.239 think of some of these plays that just kill you, 0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:57.600 and uh, oh. 0:50:57.520 --> 0:51:00.640 Man, just uh it hurts, it really does. 0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:03.080 Is a Bengal fan and I've been following the here 0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:04.600 it's nineteen sixty eight. 0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:12.040 You know, Uh, it seems like this is the worst 0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:17.520 loss ever week after week after week. But here's what 0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:21.600 I wanted to say. We all still love them. 0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:24.560 Yeah, we love the Bengals. 0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:30.399 Love the Bengals. Are you're one hundred percent correct? I'm 0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:33.040 a I'm a I'm a die hard. I'll never not 0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:37.000 be a Bengals fan. I think there's just it's frustrating 0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:39.960 because the week is so good when they win. You 0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:41.560 go to you go to work on Monday and you're 0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:43.920 standing with the with the work coworkers at the mountain, 0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:46.040 at the water fountain, in a coffee pot and just 0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:48.160 talking about how to play a well they played it. 0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:49.800 It makes the week go so much faster. 0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:53.080 And that's the bad part about it, is the whole 0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:55.719 city is and the whole region is invested in this 0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:59.200 club being successful, and kind of especially this time of 0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:01.160 the season when winter comes along, it's kind of depressing 0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:03.520 time with you anyway, with the trees and all that. 0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:06.160 But you kind of rely on them to lift their 0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:08.840 spirits every week, and so we get we get lifted 0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:11.040 up when they score and then then they give it 0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:13.560 right back. I said, you know, it's a charitable thing. 0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:15.239 Yeah. 0:52:15.320 --> 0:52:21.640 Absolutely, Oh, Steve, appreciate the call man. Thank you so much. Hey, 0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:25.280 you're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealer's postgame Sports 0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:29.360 Talk presented by RNEL Carriers. He's Bruce Kezerski. This is 0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:32.840 Chick Ludwig. We are live at the Wings and Rings 0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:37.040 in Union, Kentucky eighty nine eighty seven US forty two 0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:41.520 until eight thirty tonight. Give us a call at five one, three, 0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:44.239 seven four, nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the Big 0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:54.640 One on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty 0:52:55.760 --> 0:53:00.680 even Day drop. Welcome back to the Try State Chevy 0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:05.280 Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. Chick Ludwig 0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:06.799 alongside Bruce Kazerski. 0:53:07.239 --> 0:53:08.200 We are live and the. 0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:12.200 Wings and rings in Union, Kentucky eighty nine eighty seven 0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:15.920 US forty two until late thirty tonight. And Bruce, I 0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:19.600 am on the philip Rivers. Watch here, forty four year 0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:20.440 old grandpa. 0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:24.200 Everybody sit down. Everybody's sitting down when he says this. 0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:24.719 That's right. 0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:29.240 Sixteen of twenty three passing for one hundred and one yards. 0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:33.480 That's an average of four point four yards per good handoff. Yes, 0:53:34.080 --> 0:53:38.640 one touchdown, no interception, one sack. Passer rating of ninety 0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:41.319 two point eight. And the Colts have a thirteen to 0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:44.359 twelve lead over the Seattle Seahawks with eight oh nine 0:53:44.400 --> 0:53:44.680 to go. 0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:46.799 And they're running the clock and killing the call. 0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:48.000 They're trying, man, and this. 0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:49.799 Can hold on Navy. This was on. 0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:51.760 But the old man, he just had a bad snap. 0:53:51.800 --> 0:53:54.040 I was watching the ball. I was a high snap 0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:56.720 and he had a choke. He got he got crushed. 0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:58.919 Oh I felt that well. 0:53:58.960 --> 0:54:01.080 And we saw him on the sidelines and he's moving 0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:04.200 his arm and and Bruce goes those banjo strings. 0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:05.840 They're not they're not what they used. 0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:08.919 To be exactly right. Hey, let's go out to the phone. 0:54:08.960 --> 0:54:11.480 Scott is in Blanchester home with the Wildcats. 0:54:11.840 --> 0:54:16.480 Scott, how are you yeah that y'all does fantastic? 0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:18.080 Great. 0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:22.120 I'm gonna try to put a little serotonin in everybody's mind. 0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:26.040 I'm gonna ask you guys the question. There there was 0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:30.480 a guy or a player, and he played for many NFL. 0:54:30.239 --> 0:54:31.680 Season as a quarterback, just like Joe. 0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:33.640 It almost sounds reminiscent. 0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:34.360 Of his career. 0:54:34.920 --> 0:54:41.160 But I watched this man try try after try, season 0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:45.120 after season, and finally and I think that that one 0:54:45.239 --> 0:54:48.880 game that he finally went to the Super Bowl, he 0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:51.840 finally won it. Can you name that man. 0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:56.000 Stanford? 0:54:56.000 --> 0:55:01.840 Because he was I mean, and and Devers different. Almost 0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:04.680 let me give you. 0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:12.360 Lifetime because this man, this man. 0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:15.000 Tried harder every single time, and it's like he always 0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:18.400 came up shorter. It's almost like the same situation that 0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:20.640 we're going through. But the moral of the story is 0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:24.279 get backed up, keep trying, and you'll get and you'll 0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:24.759 get it. 0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:25.239 You know. 0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:29.520 It's like you know that mister John Elway. 0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:36.759 Well, yeah, they got blown out a couple of times. Yeah, 0:55:37.239 --> 0:55:40.960 And I was thinking of Jim Pluckett. Jim, Yeah, you 0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:44.080 should win a super Bowl with the radar Ya. 0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:49.360 It was single time. Yeah, he's rifle one down the 0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:51.440 mid second and then finally get and all of a 0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:54.279 sudden horror shows his ugly face and then all of 0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:54.959 a sudden ever. 0:55:55.480 --> 0:55:57.080 You know, we'll put them and you know we'll put 0:55:57.120 --> 0:56:00.959 them over the top. Well, put them over the top. 0:56:01.200 --> 0:56:03.440 As good as John Elway was. It was their running game. 0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:07.200 Thrill Davis. Yes, they run the ball on anybody. That 0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:09.200 makes your quarterback that much more effective. 0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:15.000 When we get to that point, yeah, I said, we. 0:56:14.920 --> 0:56:17.000 Get to that point, then we'll then we'll be able 0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:19.400 to say, okay, Joe, now now take us to the rest. 0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:21.480 Of the way, right. 0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:24.520 You know, it's kind of funny you hear all the announcers. 0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:26.640 I have to, you know, turn the mute off because 0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:28.920 you know, these guys just it seems like you're on 0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:31.320 the other team. That's almost like we're it's the punching 0:56:31.400 --> 0:56:35.080 pack of the NFL. And I can't stand it, you know, 0:56:35.200 --> 0:56:39.040 but you know, it seems like we know we gotta 0:56:39.120 --> 0:56:41.200 do we got we know, we just gotta keep on 0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:45.400 pushing forward. And I'm I'm that just what rang in 0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:47.800 my head as far as like, guys, you gotta keep trying. 0:56:47.840 --> 0:56:49.680 You gotta keep going, that's all. 0:56:49.840 --> 0:56:50.600 Yeah. Yeah. 0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:52.440 The one thing you don't want to be in all 0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:55.040 the sports is a team that the Harlem gold Tars 0:56:55.080 --> 0:56:55.640 play against. 0:56:57.000 --> 0:56:58.920 You know what I'm saying. You don't want to be 0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.479 that group. Yeah, yeah. 0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:06.080 You want to be the team that the challenges every week. Yeah, 0:57:06.640 --> 0:57:08.759 and this team can still challenge. You can see. You 0:57:08.800 --> 0:57:11.000 can see three great performances the last three weeks in 0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:13.239 the season. And it won't mean much to to the 0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:17.520 to the to the organization, to the league league wide, 0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:19.280 but it'll mean a lot to the to the players, 0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:21.040 it will mean a lot to the fans, and it 0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:24.000 will mean a lot to the to the management that 0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:26.920 has to pay these guys and five. 0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:27.560 Players for next year. 0:57:27.600 --> 0:57:27.720 Year. 0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:28.960 We're valuabating now. 0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:34.160 All right, appreciate the call. Thank you very much. Do 0:57:34.280 --> 0:57:35.960 we have Jonathan and Dayton? 0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:40.400 Yeah? Hey, Chick, thanks for everything you do. 0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:40.800 Brother. 0:57:40.800 --> 0:57:45.520 I appreciate you always being the fan base, just giving 0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:46.360 us a place. 0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:46.880 Of vent tonight. 0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:52.280 Tonight, my I have got a little anger, okay, but 0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:54.480 it's not geared towards Zach Taylor. 0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:57.720 It's non geared towards the players. I think they all 0:57:57.760 --> 0:57:59.240 did there. 0:57:59.000 --> 0:58:02.440 They they played as hard as they can. They didn't 0:58:02.440 --> 0:58:06.880 have it today. But as a fan, I'm a customer 0:58:07.000 --> 0:58:09.800 and I want to talk about my customer experience at 0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:13.800 the game today. And it started like this. I came 0:58:13.800 --> 0:58:16.000 from Dayton, Ohio. You know, you know a thing or 0:58:16.000 --> 0:58:17.200 two about Dayton, Ohio. 0:58:18.680 --> 0:58:21.480 The whole drive down that roads covered and ice. 0:58:21.600 --> 0:58:23.640 Took us about an hour and forty five minutes to 0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:26.840 get there, no problem. But when I get to the 0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:29.480 stadium at the National Anthem, I got to wait an 0:58:29.600 --> 0:58:33.080 hour to get through because there's only two gates open, 0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:35.880 and I don't even get into the second quarter. And 0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:38.360 then I get to my seat and it's covered in snow. 0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:40.800 And then I see people in hot chocolate, and I said, 0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:44.400 I'll go to concessions, but my section's concession area isn't 0:58:44.440 --> 0:58:48.200 even open. It opens my eyes that this ownership has 0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:51.040 a serious problem with doing the bare minimum. 0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:54.640 You see it on the team, like we got the quarterback, 0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:55.920 but the offensive. 0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:58.040 Line's always one guy missed, and that makes the whole 0:58:58.080 --> 0:59:01.120 thing a unit. That's just like the snow still being 0:59:01.200 --> 0:59:03.840 on the seats, Like we got the stadium, but we 0:59:03.880 --> 0:59:06.920 don't take care of the little things to make it complete. 0:59:07.360 --> 0:59:10.560 And I'm telling you today was like the final straw 0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:13.040 from me. I saw it from a customer perspective. I 0:59:13.080 --> 0:59:17.040 was like, they don't do the little things, and I'm 0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:19.760 angered by that. It's like, and they want us to 0:59:19.840 --> 0:59:22.640 blame Zach, they want us to blame they want us 0:59:22.640 --> 0:59:25.720 to blame Burrow, and it's like, you gotta do the 0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:28.800 little things, and they just that's why they get a 0:59:28.840 --> 0:59:31.080 bad rap, that's why people make fun of us. That 0:59:31.440 --> 0:59:33.440 they're not making fun of us, they're not making fun 0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:37.840 of the city. They're talking about the ownership. And it's 0:59:37.880 --> 0:59:40.760 time that we just we started saying, you know, enough 0:59:40.800 --> 0:59:45.120 of enough man, enough is enough, Like treat us right, 0:59:45.760 --> 0:59:48.640 build a team that we deserve. Lord knows, this city's 0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:51.320 given them all the tax now as they want. It's 0:59:51.400 --> 0:59:53.760 time to step up to the plate and don't have 0:59:53.880 --> 0:59:57.160 scapegoats that we say, oh, go fire Zach Taylor. Now 0:59:57.480 --> 1:00:01.200 give him proper coaching, give him proper scouting. I feel 1:00:01.200 --> 1:00:06.200 like I'm just preaching at this point. But the Cotonomer perspective. 1:00:05.680 --> 1:00:08.440 That's what this is for John, Hey, absolutely, this is 1:00:08.480 --> 1:00:11.440 the place event we've got to take a break. Well, 1:00:11.480 --> 1:00:13.960 we can address this when we come Back. It's the 1:00:14.000 --> 1:00:17.120 Tri State Chevy Dealer's post game Sports Talk presented by 1:00:17.280 --> 1:00:21.880 RNL Carriers Chick Ludwig with Bruce Kazerski and Engineer Mike 1:00:21.960 --> 1:00:24.400 Mills on seven hundred WLW. 1:00:26.920 --> 1:00:30.520 This is the Tri Stage Chevy Dealer's post game Sports Talk, 1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:34.520 live from Buffalo Wings and Rings, presented by R and 1:00:34.640 --> 1:00:37.480 L Carriers. 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And now 1:01:18.760 --> 1:01:20.320 post games sports Talk. 1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:26.120 We are live at the Wings and Rings in Union, 1:01:26.200 --> 1:01:29.720 Kentucky eighty nine to eighty seven US forty two and 1:01:29.800 --> 1:01:32.200 you're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Post Game 1:01:32.280 --> 1:01:37.160 Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers on seven hundred WLW 1:01:37.320 --> 1:01:39.600 and Cincinnati ZESPN fifteen thirty. 1:01:39.840 --> 1:01:40.920 This is Chick Ludwig. 1:01:41.040 --> 1:01:44.960 I'm alongside Bengals great offensive lineman Bruce Kazerski. 1:01:45.320 --> 1:01:46.360 We're breaking down. 1:01:46.200 --> 1:01:50.800 The Bengals twenty four to nothing shutout loss to the 1:01:50.840 --> 1:01:54.400 Baltimore Ravens today that finally knocked the Bengals out of 1:01:54.440 --> 1:01:57.640 the playoffs. The Bengals are four and ten now two 1:01:57.720 --> 1:02:01.080 and five at home. 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Visit RLC 1:02:35.800 --> 1:02:41.000 dot com and make RNL Carriers your global transportation provider. 1:02:41.600 --> 1:02:45.240 And it has to be Jamar Chase the. 1:02:45.200 --> 1:02:46.560 Only thing in town, that's right. 1:02:46.600 --> 1:02:50.400 He caught two balls, the two longest plays of the 1:02:50.520 --> 1:02:54.640 day for the Bengals, a thirty four yarder from Joe 1:02:54.640 --> 1:02:56.080 Burrow in the third quarter. 1:02:57.400 --> 1:03:00.200 In a and in the fourth quarter a twenty seven year. 1:03:00.360 --> 1:03:04.400 And really both you know, at Baltimore's thirty eight yard 1:03:04.440 --> 1:03:07.880 line for thirty four yards, the other one at Baltimore's 1:03:07.920 --> 1:03:11.880 forty five for twenty seven yards. The Bengals moved the 1:03:11.920 --> 1:03:14.920 ball between the basically between the twenties. 1:03:15.480 --> 1:03:18.760 Could not score. Unstoppable guy. 1:03:19.040 --> 1:03:20.680 They got in that red zone and it was like 1:03:21.120 --> 1:03:23.760 Kryptonite stepped across the line and they just. 1:03:24.320 --> 1:03:27.000 Get her a wall like the thirty yard line. They 1:03:27.040 --> 1:03:27.600 just could not. 1:03:27.640 --> 1:03:29.439 And didn't know. That's why they called the red zone. 1:03:29.440 --> 1:03:31.960 Every defense has they let you get there, and more 1:03:32.040 --> 1:03:34.280 than they tighten it down because you're getting that shortened field. 1:03:35.200 --> 1:03:38.280 And uh, the delivery of the game is brought to 1:03:38.280 --> 1:03:42.120 you by RNL Carriers. Visit RLC dot com and once 1:03:42.160 --> 1:03:47.320 again make RNL Carriers your global transportation provider. And we've 1:03:47.360 --> 1:03:50.960 gone over this before, Bruce. But to get to the 1:03:51.000 --> 1:03:56.520 twenty five yard line, no score. They're driving and then 1:03:56.840 --> 1:03:59.800 a sack on third and four, way back like at 1:03:59.840 --> 1:04:03.959 the forty two yard line, forcing a punt. They get 1:04:04.000 --> 1:04:07.200 the ball back, they drive to the Ravens twenty nine 1:04:07.320 --> 1:04:12.320 yard line. Then it passed over the middle and it 1:04:12.880 --> 1:04:18.520 Jamar Chase didn't quite times jump right and it ticked 1:04:18.520 --> 1:04:21.040 off the top of his hands right and you. 1:04:21.000 --> 1:04:22.760 Can see him, you can see him turn his head up. 1:04:22.760 --> 1:04:26.000 Feel just to split second early and on n cole Weather, 1:04:26.040 --> 1:04:27.600 they like that. You got to grab that ball and 1:04:27.600 --> 1:04:30.520 hold hold on with for your life because it's slick. 1:04:30.720 --> 1:04:31.600 It's very slick. 1:04:32.400 --> 1:04:34.320 We saw a drop that would have been a thirty 1:04:34.400 --> 1:04:40.080 yard game by andre Yusavasha. Yeah, and another one in 1:04:40.120 --> 1:04:46.120 the end zone by what really was Mitchell Tinsley could 1:04:46.120 --> 1:04:49.240 not bring the ball in and then on the next play. 1:04:50.120 --> 1:04:52.240 Boom, Yeah, pick six. 1:04:52.400 --> 1:04:53.960 So it's it's that quick. 1:04:54.120 --> 1:04:56.800 Just it's just like a buffalo. 1:04:57.200 --> 1:04:59.640 Yeah, one mistake and it's going the other way. 1:04:59.240 --> 1:04:59.360 You know. 1:04:59.680 --> 1:05:02.040 They you to never give up defense. We never give 1:05:02.120 --> 1:05:04.040 up on the ball carrier. If you can tackle them 1:05:04.040 --> 1:05:06.160 at the one, you give us another chance to stop them. 1:05:06.240 --> 1:05:09.040 And that's kind of what happened today. We had the opportunity. 1:05:09.080 --> 1:05:10.880 They never gave up. They got the ball out, had 1:05:10.920 --> 1:05:14.919 a chance and broke our back. 1:05:15.720 --> 1:05:19.000 Yes it did. Hey, let's go out to the phones. 1:05:19.160 --> 1:05:21.200 We have Steve and Sharonville. 1:05:22.760 --> 1:05:24.000 And hey, guys, how you doing. 1:05:25.040 --> 1:05:25.840 We're there. 1:05:26.200 --> 1:05:30.840 Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, check out. I think you're the 1:05:30.840 --> 1:05:34.640 best guy on talk radio in Cincinnati. I mean that sincerely. 1:05:34.680 --> 1:05:35.960 I wish you were on more often. 1:05:36.760 --> 1:05:40.360 Well, I appreciate that, and I'm staying in my lane. 1:05:40.560 --> 1:05:42.600 I enjoy what I do. I'm kind of that glue 1:05:42.640 --> 1:05:42.960 on within. 1:05:43.120 --> 1:05:46.000 I just gave him knuckles just so you know that's right, man. 1:05:46.480 --> 1:05:49.560 But yeah, well you're good. Anyway. I'd like to make 1:05:50.080 --> 1:05:53.920 two comments, and I could either hang up and hey, 1:05:53.960 --> 1:05:55.560 have you comment, or if you want to dis go, 1:05:55.800 --> 1:05:58.440 so whatever you want to do. The first comment I 1:05:58.640 --> 1:06:02.400 like to make is yeah, to translate what Burrow said 1:06:02.440 --> 1:06:05.640 the other day in his press conference, and basically what 1:06:05.720 --> 1:06:10.320 he was saying is, uh, Mike and Katie, if you 1:06:10.320 --> 1:06:14.000 don't fire Zach, you don't fire Duke, and you don't 1:06:14.040 --> 1:06:17.000 bring chef up your scouting department and bring some good 1:06:17.040 --> 1:06:22.680 confident people in here asap like yesterday. Uh, I'm going 1:06:22.760 --> 1:06:25.120 to demand a trade. I mean we're gonna we're looking 1:06:25.160 --> 1:06:28.640 at Carson Palmer two point zero. In my opinion, I 1:06:28.680 --> 1:06:32.560 think Joe's fed up, and you know, he knows that 1:06:32.600 --> 1:06:35.240 he shouldn't be putting up with this, and then he'd 1:06:35.240 --> 1:06:38.760 be thriving somewhere else. So that's the first comment. The 1:06:38.800 --> 1:06:43.280 second comment I want to make is I honestly feel 1:06:43.320 --> 1:06:47.600 that both the fans and the media in this town 1:06:48.520 --> 1:06:52.480 are responsible partly for allowing the Bengals to get away 1:06:52.520 --> 1:06:56.960 with this mediocrity year after year. And when people say, well, 1:06:56.960 --> 1:06:59.280 I'm gonna support the Bengals no matter what and all, 1:06:59.280 --> 1:07:03.160 they basically that just tells the Brown family that they 1:07:03.200 --> 1:07:05.160 don't have to change anything. People are still going to 1:07:05.200 --> 1:07:08.760 support us. So I just think in either Philadelphia or 1:07:08.800 --> 1:07:11.240 New York or other cities wouldn't put up with this, 1:07:11.440 --> 1:07:14.000 neither the media or the fans. I just think the 1:07:14.080 --> 1:07:16.920 media is too soft and the fans are too accepting. 1:07:17.040 --> 1:07:19.959 That's just my opinion. If you want to discuss, fine, 1:07:20.000 --> 1:07:21.480 or if you want me to hang up, whatever. 1:07:21.240 --> 1:07:25.960 You want to do, I'll make one comment. I'll just 1:07:26.000 --> 1:07:29.840 say Cleveland Browns. You know you want to talk about 1:07:29.840 --> 1:07:33.040 a loyal fan base, the Cleveland Browns, or how about 1:07:33.080 --> 1:07:37.040 the Boston Red Sox for fifty years. You know, the 1:07:37.080 --> 1:07:39.800 fan base gets loyal because they love going to the ballpark, 1:07:39.840 --> 1:07:44.120 they love the scenery, running those players running around town. 1:07:44.840 --> 1:07:46.560 I get it, man, it's a ton of money. 1:07:46.600 --> 1:07:49.360 It's more money than it's ever ever been, and it's 1:07:49.440 --> 1:07:54.280 killing pocketbooks and Christmas vacations. It's killing Christmas presents because 1:07:54.520 --> 1:07:57.360 they're losing. But let's not jump off the brug. This 1:07:57.440 --> 1:08:00.000 organization has been around a long time. There's enough people 1:08:00.160 --> 1:08:03.800 that care about it. I think there's twenty thousand people 1:08:03.840 --> 1:08:06.680 still on the wait list to get tickets. So you know, 1:08:08.720 --> 1:08:10.680 I don't I don't buy anything. Like I said, I'm 1:08:10.680 --> 1:08:13.160 a lifer for for good. I don't go to a 1:08:13.160 --> 1:08:15.960 lot of games. I just I'm too busy with other 1:08:15.960 --> 1:08:18.360 things in my life. But I do watch every game 1:08:18.400 --> 1:08:21.280 on television, every one of them, and and uh I 1:08:21.280 --> 1:08:26.439 wish them the best on every on every given Sundays too. 1:08:26.520 --> 1:08:29.759 But there's there's too much media. I mean, look at 1:08:29.760 --> 1:08:32.320 Marvel Lewis, how many years he was here. Look how 1:08:32.360 --> 1:08:34.519 long it took him to fire Dave Shula. I mean, 1:08:36.320 --> 1:08:41.400 this organization, the front office is just not competent and 1:08:41.720 --> 1:08:45.080 that ends up with results. Like you see today on 1:08:45.120 --> 1:08:47.200 the field. That's just my opinion. I just think that 1:08:47.680 --> 1:08:49.800 I think the media should be tougher on the on 1:08:49.920 --> 1:08:52.320 the front office. I think the fans should be tough 1:08:52.640 --> 1:08:54.960 tougher on the front office. And I think it's that 1:08:55.240 --> 1:08:58.439 if both those things happen, you see things change around here. 1:08:59.200 --> 1:09:00.400 There's something to be that for that. 1:09:00.479 --> 1:09:03.120 But this again, having been in the organization, I know 1:09:03.200 --> 1:09:07.360 that they are family people and and they hate to 1:09:08.120 --> 1:09:10.880 and you look at this way, it's it's no longer 1:09:11.360 --> 1:09:14.960 it's such an expensive sport anymore. But they those people, 1:09:15.080 --> 1:09:16.679 the coaches, they become family. 1:09:17.280 --> 1:09:17.479 You know. 1:09:17.520 --> 1:09:19.920 It's hard to kick a family that are out and 1:09:19.920 --> 1:09:23.160 and maybe it's easy for Jerry Jones, it's not so 1:09:23.280 --> 1:09:26.000 easy for the Browns. They're they're loyalists and they want 1:09:26.040 --> 1:09:27.280 to give you every opportunity. 1:09:27.920 --> 1:09:29.599 But I think I think that. 1:09:30.040 --> 1:09:31.800 Zach is losing the locker room, and I think something 1:09:31.880 --> 1:09:34.720 drastic hast to change, and maybe Duke Tobin is the 1:09:34.720 --> 1:09:35.320 start of it. 1:09:37.200 --> 1:09:38.000 The other times. 1:09:39.600 --> 1:09:40.759 Have a nice evening, guys. 1:09:41.000 --> 1:09:42.080 All right, appreciate it. 1:09:42.400 --> 1:09:46.679 The national media made it sound like Joe Burrow exactly 1:09:46.680 --> 1:09:50.000 what he said. I just listened to Dan Horde talk 1:09:50.120 --> 1:09:53.719 with Scott Sloan. He had a total, totally different opinion 1:09:54.040 --> 1:09:57.680 of it that yes, he's frustrated, no one in that 1:09:57.760 --> 1:09:59.519 building is happy, but. 1:10:01.640 --> 1:10:02.599 Demand a trade. 1:10:02.720 --> 1:10:05.960 Come on, He's making an average of fifty five million 1:10:06.040 --> 1:10:07.760 dollars through twenty twenty nine. 1:10:08.120 --> 1:10:12.519 His buddy Jamar's here. T Higgins is here. Yes, his weapons. 1:10:12.520 --> 1:10:14.040 Part of the part of the reason he's as good 1:10:14.040 --> 1:10:16.280 as he is is because of his weapons, you know, 1:10:16.360 --> 1:10:21.200 without without t to a you see how average he 1:10:21.240 --> 1:10:24.360 can look at times. Again, the cold weather affected everybody. 1:10:24.439 --> 1:10:26.160 I don't want to take that. But again, who had 1:10:26.160 --> 1:10:28.000 more to win to who had more to gain today 1:10:28.600 --> 1:10:30.920 in that game than than than the Ravens did. The 1:10:31.320 --> 1:10:33.560 Ravens are the Bengals, you know, it's hard, hard to 1:10:33.560 --> 1:10:34.320 stay focused. 1:10:34.640 --> 1:10:40.000 And the Ravens got the revenge from Thanksgiving night in Baltimore. 1:10:40.280 --> 1:10:44.080 So Bengals beat them there. Then they had they had 1:10:44.080 --> 1:10:46.640 fun with the turkey that night on the sidelines. 1:10:47.000 --> 1:10:50.360 And they haven't won. I don't. They haven't won since. 1:10:51.000 --> 1:10:53.479 No, it's a it's it's a it's getting hard to watch. 1:10:53.560 --> 1:10:55.759 But again it's the Bengals. 1:10:55.800 --> 1:10:55.960 Man. 1:10:56.160 --> 1:10:58.200 You got you gotta, you gotta, you gotta love watching 1:10:58.200 --> 1:11:00.479 the Bengals, and you pray for them to make the 1:11:00.560 --> 1:11:03.519 right play, and when they do, you're excited about it. 1:11:03.560 --> 1:11:05.200 And when they don't, it's like, oh, here we go. 1:11:05.400 --> 1:11:08.320 You know, that's it. 1:11:09.080 --> 1:11:13.719 And cos let's a highlight the drive of the game. 1:11:14.320 --> 1:11:16.960 And it's brought to you by the BMW Store. There 1:11:16.960 --> 1:11:20.680 are over three hundred and fifty BMW centers in the 1:11:20.800 --> 1:11:24.240 United States, but there's only one store, the BMW Store 1:11:24.439 --> 1:11:26.280 where Passion Loves Company. 1:11:27.000 --> 1:11:27.720 We could pick it. 1:11:27.920 --> 1:11:31.200 The Bengals did not score, So what is the drive 1:11:31.240 --> 1:11:35.360 of the game. Okay, their best opportunity to score was late. 1:11:36.240 --> 1:11:39.759 They drive to the two yard line, five yard penalty. 1:11:39.840 --> 1:11:42.200 Then you get a five yard penalty on Orlando Brown 1:11:42.360 --> 1:11:47.800 you know jumping' you know, illegal procedure, a drop in 1:11:47.840 --> 1:11:51.679 the end zone by Mitchell Tinsley, and then a pick 1:11:51.760 --> 1:11:54.160 six that went ninety. 1:11:54.040 --> 1:11:55.520 Plus yards snowball. 1:11:55.920 --> 1:11:59.840 Yes, So in the in their first drive to the 1:12:00.000 --> 1:12:01.000 twenty five yard. 1:12:00.800 --> 1:12:02.960 Line, you can't go with the one where they ran 1:12:03.040 --> 1:12:05.080 it back for a touchdown because that's that's a drive 1:12:05.120 --> 1:12:07.560 of game for them allanst it. It has to be 1:12:07.640 --> 1:12:09.360 in the game early in the game when we had 1:12:09.600 --> 1:12:11.200 you know, we were playing had a chance to score 1:12:11.320 --> 1:12:11.800 was right there. 1:12:11.840 --> 1:12:14.400 And the first drive to the twenty five yard line, 1:12:14.439 --> 1:12:17.960 god man, yes, and then took a sack at the 1:12:18.000 --> 1:12:18.559 forty two. 1:12:18.880 --> 1:12:21.599 And you're kicking a brick on a day like today, 1:12:21.600 --> 1:12:23.519 so you can't make a it's hard to make a 1:12:23.560 --> 1:12:24.559 record centing vehicle. 1:12:26.240 --> 1:12:28.439 That is the drive of the game. The first drive 1:12:28.960 --> 1:12:32.040 to the Bengals forty two. Now to the or to 1:12:32.120 --> 1:12:34.960 the Ravens twenty five yard line. 1:12:35.000 --> 1:12:37.479 The sack took it back to the forty two. They 1:12:37.479 --> 1:12:38.080 had to punt. 1:12:38.640 --> 1:12:41.080 So wow. 1:12:41.280 --> 1:12:44.280 They're over three hundred and fifty BMWs centers in the 1:12:44.400 --> 1:12:47.920 United States, but there's only one store, the BMW Store 1:12:48.080 --> 1:12:56.880 where Passion Loves Company. And we are late for a break. 1:12:57.600 --> 1:13:00.880 He's Bruce Kezerski. This is Chick Ludwig. We're live at 1:13:00.960 --> 1:13:05.080 Wings and Rings in Union, Kentucky eighty nine eighty seven 1:13:05.200 --> 1:13:07.840 US forty two and you're listening to the Tri State 1:13:07.920 --> 1:13:11.920 Chevy Dealers postgame sports Talk presented by RNL carriers on 1:13:12.040 --> 1:13:22.120 seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen seven, twenty five 1:13:22.200 --> 1:13:25.360 in the Queens City of Cincinnati. This is Chick Ludwig 1:13:25.400 --> 1:13:29.400 alongside Bruce Kazerski. We are live at the Wings and 1:13:29.479 --> 1:13:34.160 Rings in Union, Kentucky eighty nine eighty seven US forty two, 1:13:34.600 --> 1:13:36.799 and you are listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers 1:13:36.800 --> 1:13:40.920 postgame sports talk sented by RNL carriers. And if you 1:13:40.960 --> 1:13:44.080 don't know by now, the Baltimore Ravens shut out the 1:13:44.120 --> 1:13:48.559 Bengals today, twenty four to nothing, sending their record to 1:13:48.600 --> 1:13:51.680 seven and seven. They're still in the hunt for the 1:13:51.760 --> 1:13:57.960 AFC North title with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Bengals season ooh 1:13:58.000 --> 1:14:00.800 four and ten over with three games to go, four 1:14:00.840 --> 1:14:04.320 and ten, two and five at home. Very frustrating that 1:14:04.360 --> 1:14:08.360 they cannot protect pay Court Stadium. 1:14:08.840 --> 1:14:10.320 And let's go out to the phones. 1:14:10.439 --> 1:14:13.519 Welcome in our good friend John and Cedarville home of 1:14:13.560 --> 1:14:21.440 the Indians. Hi, John Hey, Jack Hey, John Hey. 1:14:22.040 --> 1:14:26.640 Officially eliminated from the playoffs officially. Does that mean no 1:14:27.800 --> 1:14:28.960 Lombardi this year? 1:14:30.520 --> 1:14:35.840 Correct? No Lombardy. Somebody in Cincinnati. 1:14:36.800 --> 1:14:39.280 I was hoping we should get that Lombardi and maybe 1:14:39.680 --> 1:14:43.000 Bengal Nation lobby the commissioner to get the name of 1:14:43.080 --> 1:14:45.839 the trophy change to the Gulf of Paul Brown. 1:14:46.680 --> 1:14:47.040 Oh. 1:14:47.439 --> 1:14:51.280 Speaking of that, speaking of that, here's no name for 1:14:51.479 --> 1:14:53.760 the coach of the year, and it should be the 1:14:53.840 --> 1:14:56.799 Paul Brown Coach of the Year. He is the number 1:14:56.880 --> 1:15:01.360 one ESPN's like top one hundred, you know, game changers. 1:15:01.479 --> 1:15:03.960 He is number one in terms. 1:15:03.680 --> 1:15:05.320 Of the evolution football. 1:15:05.400 --> 1:15:07.960 I mean, he's the teacher. He's the teacher. 1:15:08.040 --> 1:15:09.320 You don't meet the teacher. 1:15:09.680 --> 1:15:10.400 And that's what the. 1:15:11.960 --> 1:15:16.599 Man aster of the Cincinnati Bengals. They're all winners, fifty 1:15:16.680 --> 1:15:19.680 three winners, but you got to go out each and 1:15:20.040 --> 1:15:24.160 every play of every game and you've got to prove it. 1:15:25.479 --> 1:15:28.840 Yeah, this this game is not about the right. 1:15:29.120 --> 1:15:33.200 It's about the four that you did wrong, you know. 1:15:34.640 --> 1:15:37.599 I mean, we did not see that today. And as 1:15:37.600 --> 1:15:40.519 far as the scouting goes in the draft, just like 1:15:40.600 --> 1:15:45.040 you guys are speaking on earlier, they get blue chippers. 1:15:45.360 --> 1:15:47.880 There's blue chippers out there and this team knows how 1:15:47.880 --> 1:15:50.960 to draft them. And it wouldn't bother me one bit 1:15:51.120 --> 1:15:55.160 if they took an Ohio State Bucket or Indiana Hoosier 1:15:55.520 --> 1:15:58.719 with every single one of their picks. 1:15:59.520 --> 1:16:00.160 I don't care. 1:16:00.520 --> 1:16:03.800 And that's all I got in Happy holidays, guys. 1:16:04.200 --> 1:16:08.200 The Ohio State might have six first round draft picks 1:16:08.520 --> 1:16:10.439 on their of their top twenty two. 1:16:10.600 --> 1:16:14.559 Very very deserving. Indiana's got quite a few they as well. 1:16:15.160 --> 1:16:17.720 They had an amazing season and it's not over for 1:16:17.800 --> 1:16:18.639 either one of them. 1:16:18.760 --> 1:16:19.440 Absolutely. 1:16:19.640 --> 1:16:19.960 Yeah. 1:16:20.000 --> 1:16:24.519 And we talked about Joe Walter Bengal legend, Texas Tech 1:16:24.640 --> 1:16:25.479 Red Raiders. 1:16:25.560 --> 1:16:29.759 Many fast, they are physical, they're. 1:16:29.560 --> 1:16:31.720 Gonna be They're gonna be a real serious contender as 1:16:31.720 --> 1:16:32.559 this thing plays out. 1:16:32.960 --> 1:16:36.479 Next Saturday, the twentieth man, Well, there's a game Friday 1:16:36.560 --> 1:16:38.760 night in Oklahoma and Alabama. 1:16:38.400 --> 1:16:40.120 Another that should be a good game. I don't know 1:16:40.240 --> 1:16:42.200 either one is gonna compete. 1:16:41.920 --> 1:16:44.120 And then a triple header on Saturday. 1:16:44.680 --> 1:16:47.360 I'll be in the seven hundred WLW studios, we'll be 1:16:47.400 --> 1:16:50.880 talking about it. But you know you're right about the 1:16:50.880 --> 1:16:56.320 four plays. What if Jamar Chase makes that catch on 1:16:56.520 --> 1:17:02.479 a slant, it's right in Chase his hands and he dropped, Okay, refuse. 1:17:02.479 --> 1:17:05.040 Savash makes that catch they should have made that he 1:17:05.040 --> 1:17:08.719 should have made, and Tenseley makes the catch correct, So. 1:17:11.120 --> 1:17:13.040 And Joe doesn't throw the pick sick. 1:17:13.120 --> 1:17:17.200 Well, that's the problem with the pass game as being 1:17:17.360 --> 1:17:18.320 everything that you do. 1:17:18.520 --> 1:17:19.360 The running game is. 1:17:19.320 --> 1:17:21.920 So critical because you hand it off to one guy, 1:17:22.320 --> 1:17:25.000 but ten other guys have to do their job. 1:17:25.080 --> 1:17:26.160 To the best of their ability. 1:17:26.400 --> 1:17:28.439 Yeah, you know, we had one hundred yards rushing today, 1:17:28.439 --> 1:17:30.479 which if we would have looked at hundred yards rushing 1:17:30.720 --> 1:17:32.640 the first five or six games of the season, we 1:17:32.720 --> 1:17:35.400 would said, wow, who were they? You know, when you're 1:17:35.400 --> 1:17:38.000 averaging one point two or one point four yards of 1:17:38.080 --> 1:17:39.960 carry early in the season. Now we get one hundred 1:17:40.000 --> 1:17:44.000 yards per game. But when you are limited how far 1:17:44.080 --> 1:17:46.519 and how he's hard is for you to run the game, 1:17:46.800 --> 1:17:49.559 run the ball. That passing game is critical. And now 1:17:49.880 --> 1:17:51.840 now three things have to pass, and we have to 1:17:51.840 --> 1:17:54.400 happen when you throw it. Somebody has to throw it, 1:17:54.439 --> 1:17:56.360 somebody has to catch it. Someone has to not fumble 1:17:56.360 --> 1:17:57.280 it when they get the ball. 1:17:57.840 --> 1:18:01.360 And that's why Woody Hayes said, things happened when you pass. 1:18:01.439 --> 1:18:04.000 Two of them are bad, bad, and really three of 1:18:04.040 --> 1:18:07.800 them are bad. You can't catch it, you can fumble it, 1:18:08.600 --> 1:18:10.040 and this it can get intercepted. 1:18:10.160 --> 1:18:12.559 And the weather is so important to the passing game. 1:18:12.680 --> 1:18:17.360 Rainy days, cold freezing days like today, it changes the 1:18:17.640 --> 1:18:20.840 dynamics of all the passing game when it's the weather 1:18:20.920 --> 1:18:21.360 is so bad. 1:18:22.240 --> 1:18:25.200 Isn't it crazy to be sitting here and critiquing and 1:18:25.240 --> 1:18:30.479 really and criticizing guys playing in minus one degree winship. 1:18:31.040 --> 1:18:35.320 It is severe, it's brutal, But hats off, we've reached 1:18:35.360 --> 1:18:37.479 the bottom of the hour break. But hats really, hats 1:18:37.479 --> 1:18:40.280 off to the Baltimore Ravens. They came out, they were hungry. 1:18:40.479 --> 1:18:43.719 They got after it. They really did. And you're listening 1:18:43.960 --> 1:18:47.559 to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented 1:18:47.600 --> 1:18:51.240 by RNL carriers live from the Wings and Rings in Union, Kentucky. 1:18:51.760 --> 1:18:52.840 He's Bruce Kezerski. 1:18:52.880 --> 1:19:06.360 This is Chick Ludwig seven hundred WLW and ESPN fifteen thirty. 1:19:07.200 --> 1:19:10.280 You are listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers post 1:19:10.280 --> 1:19:16.320 game Sports Talk presented by RNL carriers. Folks should have 1:19:16.400 --> 1:19:21.320 heard us talking off air. We went back to Plan 1:19:21.479 --> 1:19:26.240 B free agency. We were talking offensive lineman. 1:19:26.760 --> 1:19:33.120 Greats, some greats, Max Mntoya, Max Monttoy, back when Bible Trumpy. 1:19:32.840 --> 1:19:37.120 Plan B free agency. If anybody remembers that was eventually outlawed. 1:19:37.920 --> 1:19:40.600 Yeah, because the system was illegal to begin with. 1:19:40.640 --> 1:19:40.760 It was. 1:19:41.760 --> 1:19:43.120 It was illegal. 1:19:45.000 --> 1:19:49.080 Teams protected a number of players, and what they did 1:19:49.320 --> 1:19:53.920 was to protect more players. They would agree with the 1:19:54.560 --> 1:19:57.120 with the the team would agree with the player. Hey 1:19:57.120 --> 1:20:00.839 a handshake to come back, maybe get a little bonus, yep. 1:20:01.080 --> 1:20:01.960 Well yeah. 1:20:02.120 --> 1:20:05.760 Max Montoya originally told Mike Brown, Okay, yeah, I will 1:20:05.800 --> 1:20:08.000 come back, so they didn't put him on the Plan 1:20:08.120 --> 1:20:11.559 B list. But when Al Davis offers you a two 1:20:11.640 --> 1:20:16.000 year deal double your salary, you can't. 1:20:15.800 --> 1:20:18.679 Turn that down until you've jumped to the Raiders. 1:20:19.080 --> 1:20:22.719 The big example that everybody talked about when that happened 1:20:22.760 --> 1:20:25.479 was Jojacobe was the highest paid left tackle in football 1:20:25.920 --> 1:20:28.360 and the Redskins gave him one hundred thousand dollars bonus 1:20:28.400 --> 1:20:29.040 to stick around. 1:20:29.280 --> 1:20:30.760 Yes, so he told everybody no. 1:20:31.000 --> 1:20:34.799 But Max was undervalued because of where he was playing, 1:20:35.760 --> 1:20:40.479 and he got a little bonus to say no, not 1:20:40.560 --> 1:20:44.439 nearly what Jojacobe got. And in the Pro Bowl, playing 1:20:44.439 --> 1:20:49.680 in the Pro Bowl, and he met Al Davis and 1:20:49.680 --> 1:20:50.960 Al said, gave him this contract. 1:20:51.000 --> 1:20:52.120 He said, yes, I'm going to sign that. 1:20:52.160 --> 1:20:54.439 And then he called and told the Bengals and they 1:20:54.520 --> 1:20:57.200 kept his Pro Bowl bonus, but he already had the 1:20:57.880 --> 1:21:01.120 little kicker that they gave him. But he only paid 1:21:01.200 --> 1:21:05.160 about two thirds of what his his position, with his 1:21:05.200 --> 1:21:08.960 expertise and his Pro Bowl caliber expertise demanded. 1:21:09.200 --> 1:21:12.320 Man, And so it's just a little behind the curve. 1:21:12.400 --> 1:21:14.519 Ball there, they're a little behind the curve and the 1:21:14.520 --> 1:21:17.240 way things go, and it seems like they caught up 1:21:17.280 --> 1:21:20.040 with the salaries they're playing. They're paying what everybody else 1:21:20.120 --> 1:21:23.799 is paying. It's just they're not balanced at their offensive defense. 1:21:24.240 --> 1:21:27.640 Are two different animals, Yeah, two different creations. 1:21:27.680 --> 1:21:29.799 Hey, let's go out to the phones. Welcome in, Debbie 1:21:29.840 --> 1:21:32.599 in Norwood, Debbie. 1:21:33.960 --> 1:21:37.960 Yeah, I'm just watching last two games, and man, I 1:21:38.200 --> 1:21:40.519 don't know what has happened, especially with Joe Burrow. 1:21:41.200 --> 1:21:45.800 Like we looked good in the first half of the game, 1:21:45.920 --> 1:21:47.560 and then all of a sudden, it's like he was 1:21:47.600 --> 1:21:48.040 sitting in. 1:21:48.000 --> 1:21:51.519 A warm backup and started and everything just went to 1:21:51.560 --> 1:21:52.560 hell in a handbasket. 1:21:52.640 --> 1:21:58.519 What happened, Well, we saw what happened last week. I 1:21:58.560 --> 1:22:01.320 mean he played brilliantly for ninety eight percent of the 1:22:01.360 --> 1:22:07.200 game and two rows. Yes, but that's how perfect he 1:22:07.320 --> 1:22:09.960 has to play perfect for this team to win. 1:22:10.040 --> 1:22:13.320 It seems like every mistake he makes. 1:22:14.040 --> 1:22:16.719 Because we have amazing talent on our team. 1:22:17.439 --> 1:22:22.080 Yes, yes, we do look at their record, but they 1:22:22.479 --> 1:22:25.599 they scored forty and lost by two points. They scored 1:22:25.600 --> 1:22:29.599 thirty thirty eight and lost by two points. Under Joe Flacco, 1:22:30.600 --> 1:22:32.360 you know. And so when Joe Burrow come back and 1:22:32.360 --> 1:22:34.479 they scored enough points to win and they still lose. 1:22:35.000 --> 1:22:37.320 They're given up too many points. And they've been given 1:22:37.400 --> 1:22:40.439 up too many points all year long, all year long. 1:22:40.640 --> 1:22:43.879 So every time the offense makes a mistake, it's almost 1:22:44.000 --> 1:22:48.000 amplified by the fear of what's coming. Here we go again. 1:22:48.240 --> 1:22:51.439 Believe me that that plays into everybody's hearts and minds 1:22:51.880 --> 1:22:52.559 on that field. 1:22:52.560 --> 1:22:55.720 And if you if you're winning, it doesn't. But if 1:22:55.760 --> 1:22:58.280 you're losing, yeah, it kind of does. 1:23:00.240 --> 1:23:05.760 Joe is pressing, he is, he is pressing to attempt 1:23:05.800 --> 1:23:08.599 to play perfect in any you can't. 1:23:09.160 --> 1:23:10.400 Yeah. 1:23:10.720 --> 1:23:13.120 Now, they're human beings too, So all week long now 1:23:13.120 --> 1:23:16.599 they're hearing talk shows like ours and and the callers 1:23:16.600 --> 1:23:19.240 are upset and for different reasons, and they and they 1:23:19.280 --> 1:23:21.080 all and and you got to go to Kroger's with 1:23:21.120 --> 1:23:23.479 your wife to get groceries, and you know it's Christmas 1:23:23.479 --> 1:23:25.280 shop and time, so you're going out to buy your 1:23:25.280 --> 1:23:27.840 wife and present and you're hearing all this talk and 1:23:27.880 --> 1:23:31.800 there you know he's not good this and that, and 1:23:32.000 --> 1:23:35.080 it eats at your soul because you you you put 1:23:35.120 --> 1:23:37.280 everything you have into this and like you said, we 1:23:37.360 --> 1:23:41.080 have great players. We have great players, and they're great 1:23:41.160 --> 1:23:42.920 human beings, they really are. 1:23:43.600 --> 1:23:44.000 Uh. 1:23:44.400 --> 1:23:46.719 But like I said earlier, it's it's not the sixty 1:23:46.760 --> 1:23:49.160 five plays that you make, it's the four that you 1:23:49.240 --> 1:23:51.920 don't that costs us everywhere. 1:23:51.960 --> 1:23:54.160 And we can point to about five plays today that. 1:23:54.200 --> 1:23:56.400 Killed them, and it seems like when Joe makes them, 1:23:56.439 --> 1:24:00.000 they're amplified that because we throw the ball so often. 1:24:00.479 --> 1:24:04.240 The tipped pass off of Chase's hands intercepted, you know, 1:24:04.360 --> 1:24:07.200 the pass last week that he threw on the screen. 1:24:07.280 --> 1:24:09.200 He threw the ball exactly where he sposed to. The 1:24:09.240 --> 1:24:12.639 guy made a great play. Yes, you know. The Lions 1:24:12.680 --> 1:24:16.800 did that today to Safford. The defensive lineman picked it 1:24:16.800 --> 1:24:17.479 off the same. 1:24:17.320 --> 1:24:20.080 Way Aiden Hutchinson. 1:24:20.280 --> 1:24:23.320 But they came back and won because they were able 1:24:23.360 --> 1:24:24.519 to stop people when they needed to. 1:24:25.400 --> 1:24:29.080 We didn't do that, all right, Tabby, thank you very 1:24:29.160 --> 1:24:29.880 much for the call. 1:24:30.400 --> 1:24:33.479 Uh it's called complimentary football, chick. You know what really is. 1:24:33.720 --> 1:24:35.479 They gotta bail and they gotta bail him out when 1:24:35.520 --> 1:24:37.040 he makes his few mistakes. 1:24:38.120 --> 1:24:40.120 And all I can think of is Jordan Battle made 1:24:40.120 --> 1:24:43.800 a couple of nice plays. Yeah, Okay, celebrated the one 1:24:43.840 --> 1:24:46.400 where he shot the gap and made the nice tackle, 1:24:46.640 --> 1:24:51.160 and on the very next play, Boom rashied Ali thirty 1:24:51.240 --> 1:24:55.200 yards on the screen pass Yeh Boom untouched seven to 1:24:55.200 --> 1:24:57.840 nothing Ravens on their way to a twenty four to 1:24:57.920 --> 1:24:58.559 nothing victory. 1:24:58.680 --> 1:25:00.360 Well, let's review the Guilty Windows. 1:25:00.439 --> 1:25:05.200 Window of opportunity brought to you by Guilty Windows. The 1:25:05.280 --> 1:25:09.520 key to quality windows is trusting the pros Guilty Windows, 1:25:09.960 --> 1:25:13.120 and the window of opportunity for the Bengals came when. 1:25:13.960 --> 1:25:15.280 Jordan Battle. 1:25:17.200 --> 1:25:22.120 Gets the interception off an errant pass from Lamar Jackson 1:25:22.560 --> 1:25:26.400 that bounced out of the hands of Zay Flowers and 1:25:26.439 --> 1:25:28.920 the Bengals get set up at their own twenty seven 1:25:29.000 --> 1:25:29.679 yard line. 1:25:30.080 --> 1:25:30.880 But what do they do. 1:25:31.120 --> 1:25:33.000 They go three and out, three and out. 1:25:33.280 --> 1:25:35.880 They didn't take advantage of the opportunity. That's a complimentary 1:25:35.920 --> 1:25:38.519 football comment that we were just talking about. Yeah, you know, 1:25:38.600 --> 1:25:41.000 offense makes a mistake, defense has to bail them out. 1:25:41.280 --> 1:25:43.679 Defense makes a great play, the offense got to capitalize 1:25:43.680 --> 1:25:43.840 on it. 1:25:44.160 --> 1:25:47.680 That's that's that's complimentary football, and it's just it's not 1:25:47.880 --> 1:25:49.799 consistent enough at this point. 1:25:50.000 --> 1:25:53.920 And that came after Joe Burrow's interception. 1:25:53.800 --> 1:25:56.559 Yeah, yeah, they Joe threw an interception off the tip 1:25:57.320 --> 1:25:59.559 and then uh we got one off a tip and 1:25:59.600 --> 1:26:00.479 then do it with it. 1:26:00.520 --> 1:26:06.879 That's exactly right. So frustrating ten to nothing or fourteen 1:26:06.920 --> 1:26:10.920 to nothing at half. That second touchdown in the final 1:26:11.000 --> 1:26:14.000 minute of that second quarter, the twenty eight yard or 1:26:14.000 --> 1:26:16.800 de Ze Flowers was an absolute killer killer because the 1:26:16.800 --> 1:26:19.679 Bengals had the ball first and ten at the two 1:26:19.680 --> 1:26:23.200 minute warning at their own forty seven yard line, and 1:26:23.360 --> 1:26:28.839 a run and two incompletions only burned a few seconds 1:26:28.840 --> 1:26:32.439 off the clock. You would have liked the Bengals to 1:26:32.479 --> 1:26:36.320 have driven down scored before the end of the half. 1:26:36.360 --> 1:26:39.759 You're getting the ball to start the third quarter. Nothing 1:26:39.800 --> 1:26:42.760 worked for the Cincinnati Bengals today in a twenty four 1:26:42.760 --> 1:26:45.760 to nothing loss, the first time they've been shut out 1:26:46.320 --> 1:26:49.840 since the opener of the twenty seventeen season, twenty to 1:26:49.920 --> 1:26:53.280 nothing at home in the opening game of the season 1:26:53.479 --> 1:26:55.240 by the Baltimore Ravens. 1:26:55.439 --> 1:26:55.639 Chick. 1:26:56.080 --> 1:26:59.519 Yes, the Ravens have twenty four rushes and they had 1:26:59.560 --> 1:27:01.600 twelve asses, Yes. 1:27:01.360 --> 1:27:03.240 Thirty six plays and how many were for more than 1:27:03.320 --> 1:27:07.719 twenty eight game game right there? 1:27:08.160 --> 1:27:10.280 Just that's a third of the third of the you know, 1:27:10.400 --> 1:27:12.920 that's just ridiculous. You can't you can't be doing that. 1:27:14.200 --> 1:27:16.760 And just a reminder to fans that postgame sports talk 1:27:16.880 --> 1:27:19.960 is brought to you in part by AE Door and 1:27:20.040 --> 1:27:23.320 Window Company. They sell the best and service the rest. 1:27:23.520 --> 1:27:26.639 But Bruce is so right. You make forty good plays. 1:27:26.920 --> 1:27:29.479 It's the four or five that you don't make or 1:27:29.520 --> 1:27:31.840 the mistakes that you make that kill you. And that's 1:27:31.880 --> 1:27:32.639 what happened today. 1:27:32.760 --> 1:27:38.559 Yeah, we had thirty nine passing attempts and twenty nine 1:27:38.640 --> 1:27:39.480 rushing attempts. 1:27:39.680 --> 1:27:41.120 Yeah, that's ridiculous. 1:27:42.479 --> 1:27:44.640 Held the ball for nearly forty minutes. 1:27:45.120 --> 1:27:50.400 Sixty eight plays to their thirty six plays. 1:27:50.360 --> 1:27:54.280 And they shut us, set the Beckels out. It's crazy. 1:27:54.800 --> 1:27:58.719 Twenty four to nothing. It just it blows your mind. 1:27:58.800 --> 1:28:02.000 But the only goal that they compost was to dominate the 1:28:02.000 --> 1:28:06.280 time possession, to give Jacksonville or to give uh Lamar 1:28:06.400 --> 1:28:08.280 Jackson as few. 1:28:08.080 --> 1:28:11.400 Of opportunities as possible. Yeah, that was. 1:28:11.560 --> 1:28:13.479 It's been that way all year long. With the defense 1:28:13.520 --> 1:28:15.880 as shaky as had been and unstable, they got to 1:28:15.960 --> 1:28:17.720 limit the opponent's possessions. 1:28:19.200 --> 1:28:23.000 So they limited Lamar Jackson to eight completions, but two. 1:28:22.920 --> 1:28:24.440 Of them were for touchdowns. 1:28:24.720 --> 1:28:27.320 Oh it hurts, man, it hurts. 1:28:27.560 --> 1:28:27.760 Hey. 1:28:27.760 --> 1:28:30.240 You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers post game 1:28:30.280 --> 1:28:33.880 Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. This is the place 1:28:33.960 --> 1:28:37.160 to event five three, seven four nine, seven thousand, one, 1:28:37.280 --> 1:28:41.360 eight hundred The Big One, Bad Football makes for Great 1:28:41.479 --> 1:28:45.920 Radio on seven hundred WLW in Cincinnati's. 1:28:45.439 --> 1:28:47.760 ESPN fifteen thirty. And today. 1:28:55.240 --> 1:28:58.080 You are listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame 1:28:58.160 --> 1:29:04.160 Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers on seven hundred WLWN, Cincinnati, 1:29:04.479 --> 1:29:09.760 ESPN fifteen thirty. Chick Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski, and we're 1:29:09.840 --> 1:29:13.040 live at the Wings and Rings in Union, Kentucky on 1:29:13.200 --> 1:29:16.719 US forty two eighty nine eighty seven. We're here till 1:29:16.760 --> 1:29:19.200 eight thirty tonight at Bruce. Right now, let's go over 1:29:19.240 --> 1:29:24.880 some scores around the National Football League. The Broncos at 1:29:24.920 --> 1:29:28.000 home over the Green Bay Packers. 1:29:27.640 --> 1:29:29.360 May thirty four to twenty six games. 1:29:29.560 --> 1:29:32.760 Broncos improved to twelve and two, Packers fall to nine 1:29:32.960 --> 1:29:33.880 four and one. 1:29:34.439 --> 1:29:36.960 That might make the Denver Broncos a number one seed. Man. 1:29:37.840 --> 1:29:41.160 The Chicago Bears at home crushed the Cleveland Browns. The 1:29:41.160 --> 1:29:45.679 Browns are three and eleven, the Chicago Bears ten and four, 1:29:46.120 --> 1:29:49.440 five and one at home, and the team that launched 1:29:49.680 --> 1:29:53.679 Caleb Williams career, your Cincinnati Bengals. 1:29:53.880 --> 1:29:55.760 Yep. 1:29:56.000 --> 1:29:59.400 Bengals fall, of course, twenty four to nothing at home. 1:29:59.720 --> 1:30:03.439 Two the Baltimore Ravens. Ravens approved to seven and seven. 1:30:04.000 --> 1:30:07.479 Bengals fall to four and ten. Chargers eke out a 1:30:07.640 --> 1:30:11.400 sixteen to thirteen win over the Chiefs in Kansas City. 1:30:11.960 --> 1:30:15.400 Chargers improved to ten and four. Chiefs fall to six 1:30:15.479 --> 1:30:16.160 and eight. 1:30:16.400 --> 1:30:18.679 And Mahomes maybe out. Maybe he's hurt. 1:30:18.840 --> 1:30:22.519 He's hurt, that's right, and they could very well be 1:30:22.560 --> 1:30:25.400 eliminated here from the playoffs. 1:30:26.439 --> 1:30:28.800 I think they are mathematically Chiefs are out. 1:30:29.120 --> 1:30:33.679 The Buffalo Bills, down early twenty one to nothing, roar 1:30:33.840 --> 1:30:38.080 back and beat the New England Patriots up in Foxborough 1:30:38.439 --> 1:30:42.439 thirty five to thirty one. A twenty eight point second 1:30:42.479 --> 1:30:44.679 half for the Buffalo Bills. 1:30:45.080 --> 1:30:46.959 You trailed twenty four to seven. 1:30:46.760 --> 1:30:50.120 And continually tried to share the offense, and then at 1:30:50.160 --> 1:30:52.280 some point they say, Josh win this game for us, 1:30:52.640 --> 1:30:55.280 and he's good enough to do it like Superman. 1:30:55.080 --> 1:30:57.719 Nineteen of twenty eight, one hundred and ninety three yards 1:30:57.720 --> 1:31:04.680 three touchdowns for Josh Allen the command The Washington Commanders 1:31:04.720 --> 1:31:07.320 are twenty nine to twenty one winners over the Giants. 1:31:07.320 --> 1:31:11.080 In New York, a pair of struggling teams, Commanders four 1:31:11.080 --> 1:31:13.080 and ten, Giants two and twelve. 1:31:13.760 --> 1:31:15.479 Raiders get shut out. 1:31:15.520 --> 1:31:18.840 In Philadelphia buy the Eagles thirty one to nothing. The 1:31:18.920 --> 1:31:22.360 Raiders are two and twelve. The Eagles improved to nine 1:31:22.400 --> 1:31:26.599 and five five and two at home. Jaguars all over 1:31:26.680 --> 1:31:30.000 the Jets in Jacksonville. The Jags now ten and four. 1:31:30.520 --> 1:31:34.040 Jets go to three and eleven. Trevor Lawrence twenty of 1:31:34.160 --> 1:31:39.800 thirty two passing three hundred and thirty yards and five touchdowns. 1:31:39.960 --> 1:31:40.920 Chick Trevor Lawrence. 1:31:41.400 --> 1:31:44.960 As much as this city is anguishing over the Bengals, 1:31:45.160 --> 1:31:46.240 how about New York? 1:31:46.680 --> 1:31:50.559 How struggles that they have with the Giants and the Jets. Oh, 1:31:50.600 --> 1:31:53.479 they got two franchises that can't get out of their 1:31:53.479 --> 1:31:53.880 own way. 1:31:54.080 --> 1:31:57.839 In the largest market, in the largest market in the United. 1:31:57.600 --> 1:32:03.080 States, Texans are forty to twenty winners at home over 1:32:03.320 --> 1:32:07.320 the Arizona Cardinals. Texans approved the nine to five Cardinals 1:32:07.360 --> 1:32:10.640 at three and eleven and CJ. Stroud twenty two to 1:32:10.760 --> 1:32:14.800 twenty nine two hundred and sixty yards, three touchdowns. 1:32:14.920 --> 1:32:17.760 They've caught fire. They're playing great football. What a great 1:32:17.800 --> 1:32:18.519 defense they have. 1:32:20.640 --> 1:32:24.720 And the Los Angeles Rams at home forty one to 1:32:24.840 --> 1:32:28.920 thirty four winners over the visiting Detroit Lions. Lions now 1:32:28.960 --> 1:32:33.400 eight and six, Rams approved to eleven and three. Matthew 1:32:33.439 --> 1:32:35.920 Stafford a couple of touchdown passes. He throws for three 1:32:35.960 --> 1:32:37.280 hundred and sixty eight yards. 1:32:37.479 --> 1:32:39.920 The Lions are facing elimination two, that's right. 1:32:39.960 --> 1:32:45.559 And the Saints in New Orleans twenty to seventeen winners 1:32:45.920 --> 1:32:49.919 over the visiting Carolina Panthers. Panthers now seven and seven, 1:32:50.200 --> 1:32:54.240 Saints are are four and ten, and the forty nine Ers, 1:32:54.280 --> 1:32:57.120 how do they keep winning? Thirty seven to twenty four 1:32:57.160 --> 1:33:01.120 at home over the Tennessee Titans. Titan said two and twelve, 1:33:01.439 --> 1:33:05.920 forty nine Ers had ten and four and Phillips Rivers 1:33:05.920 --> 1:33:10.719 debut has comeback after being out since two thousand. 1:33:10.920 --> 1:33:15.519 Honestly, yes, it's a pretty impressive comeback. I mean, Joe 1:33:15.600 --> 1:33:19.200 Flacco was great in his tenure here as a Bengal, 1:33:19.960 --> 1:33:22.160 with the exception of the first game if you remember 1:33:22.240 --> 1:33:25.519 that one, it was it was not overly exciting. But 1:33:26.520 --> 1:33:28.760 today he threw a for over one hundred yards, threw 1:33:28.920 --> 1:33:31.000 a for a touchdown pass. He had him in the 1:33:31.000 --> 1:33:33.200 ballgame and they were winning for most of that ballgame. 1:33:33.439 --> 1:33:35.160 He made him competitive. Now, what can happen in the 1:33:35.160 --> 1:33:37.840 next couple of couple of weeks because we already saw him, 1:33:38.160 --> 1:33:40.519 you know, stretching his shoulder out with the trainer and 1:33:40.720 --> 1:33:42.760 you know, getting sacked a few times, and. 1:33:42.720 --> 1:33:44.559 I have an offensive linement have to help him up. 1:33:44.800 --> 1:33:47.920 Yeah, the banjo, the joe strings are a little tight, 1:33:48.040 --> 1:33:51.280 yeah or whatever. But the Seattle Seahawks eke it out 1:33:51.360 --> 1:33:57.639 over the Indianapolis Colts touring acl Patrick Mahomes Wow, eighteen 1:33:57.680 --> 1:34:05.760 to sixteen. Seattle Seahawks over the Colts. 1:34:03.200 --> 1:34:06.400 Micah Parsons feared torn Aco Wow. 1:34:06.560 --> 1:34:11.720 And Tomorrow Knight's game the Dolphins at the Pittsburgh Steelers. 1:34:11.920 --> 1:34:14.920 Steelers at seven and six, Dolphins at six and seven. 1:34:15.479 --> 1:34:19.080 And tonight's game is the Vikings at the Cowboys. Vikings 1:34:19.120 --> 1:34:22.559 at five and eight, the Cowboys at six, six and one. 1:34:23.360 --> 1:34:25.759 We've got time to go out to the phones. Jack 1:34:26.080 --> 1:34:29.200 is a Dayton Jack, What do you say? 1:34:29.520 --> 1:34:29.680 Yes? 1:34:30.280 --> 1:34:32.280 Hey, hello, Hello? 1:34:32.560 --> 1:34:32.720 Yes? 1:34:33.880 --> 1:34:34.080 Yeah? 1:34:34.160 --> 1:34:35.760 Can you hear me sure? 1:34:35.840 --> 1:34:36.080 Ken? 1:34:36.880 --> 1:34:37.120 Yeah? 1:34:37.160 --> 1:34:39.160 The Bengals are going to make some progress in this 1:34:39.320 --> 1:34:44.760 sense Burrough Chase era. They've got to improve the defense overnight. 1:34:45.439 --> 1:34:49.880 And man, i'd pack you jump pair of draft picks 1:34:50.760 --> 1:34:52.799 for each of the top three teams in the draft 1:34:53.439 --> 1:34:55.679 and go out and get ohigh skates, the three best 1:34:55.680 --> 1:35:00.880 defensive players, reef Jackson Downs and go at it and 1:35:00.920 --> 1:35:04.640 try to improve better than twenty five percent of the 1:35:04.680 --> 1:35:09.040 defense overnight. Roll the dice and see what happens. Otherwise, 1:35:09.080 --> 1:35:12.080 it's gonna be us in the Browns for who knows 1:35:12.120 --> 1:35:15.639 the next half dozen years. I'll listen to your comments. 1:35:15.720 --> 1:35:16.880 Thanks. 1:35:17.680 --> 1:35:20.280 Well, Like we mentioned it earlier, there's like six Ohio 1:35:20.360 --> 1:35:23.080 State buck eyes really on both sides of the uh 1:35:24.080 --> 1:35:25.880 the line of scrimmage that are gonna go in the 1:35:25.880 --> 1:35:30.040 first round of the NFL Draft. There Caleb Downs, r 1:35:30.120 --> 1:35:34.680 Vel Reese. These are very talented uh gosh, a linebacker 1:35:34.720 --> 1:35:36.880 and the dB. It'd be nice if the Bengals could 1:35:36.920 --> 1:35:39.320 pick one of those guys up. To me, it's gonna 1:35:39.320 --> 1:35:42.599 be a defensive draft. Yeah, you're gonna miss on some guys, 1:35:43.040 --> 1:35:45.439 but you've got to improve this defense. 1:35:45.600 --> 1:35:46.800 And really, when you look at the. 1:35:46.720 --> 1:35:52.519 Offense, Bruce Higgins is back Burho is back, Jamar Chase 1:35:52.640 --> 1:35:55.080 is back. You've got two young guards, You've got a 1:35:55.200 --> 1:36:00.200 very good you basically have decent tackles. Amarus Mims is 1:36:00.240 --> 1:36:04.639 awesome at right tackle, and you've got a young Chase Brown. 1:36:05.439 --> 1:36:07.400 It's samaj Is due back. 1:36:07.720 --> 1:36:13.160 So really the offense, Mi Kaziki's back, you're fairly. 1:36:12.840 --> 1:36:15.200 Well set on offense. You've got to improve this defense. 1:36:15.240 --> 1:36:19.559 Their window their windows about three years, maybe four. And 1:36:19.600 --> 1:36:21.640 then and then then you're looking at the end of 1:36:21.680 --> 1:36:24.559 the careers of some of the finest in Bengal history 1:36:25.040 --> 1:36:29.160 to play those positions, Chase and Burrow and Higgins, and 1:36:29.160 --> 1:36:33.320 and then what you know, the evolution can't be reloaded 1:36:33.439 --> 1:36:37.800 offense again because we're losing games defensively and stats don't lie. 1:36:37.880 --> 1:36:40.120 And I hate the point fingers, but when you're at 1:36:40.120 --> 1:36:41.720 this point in the year, when you're ranked at the 1:36:41.720 --> 1:36:44.000 bottom of the league, it's because of the work that 1:36:44.080 --> 1:36:46.719 you did. It's it's the results that you were able 1:36:46.720 --> 1:36:49.200 to perform. You know, offensively they're not down to the 1:36:49.200 --> 1:36:51.160 bottom of the league, there's somewhere in the middle, but 1:36:51.360 --> 1:36:53.760 defensively they are down the bottom. Yes, you can win 1:36:53.800 --> 1:36:55.760 with a with the middle of the road defense. You 1:36:55.760 --> 1:36:56.360 can win with a. 1:36:56.600 --> 1:36:59.240 Fifteenth, sixteenth, seventeenth ranked defense. 1:36:59.240 --> 1:37:01.519 A lot of games and if we had that this year, 1:37:01.560 --> 1:37:02.799 we don't want a lot of games. 1:37:03.400 --> 1:37:06.400 But we don't. And some of it's a maturity young 1:37:06.520 --> 1:37:07.560 lung linebackers. 1:37:07.600 --> 1:37:10.439 We've saw two defensive ends step up the last couple 1:37:10.479 --> 1:37:13.400 of games and play better. Defensive tackles have been playing 1:37:13.400 --> 1:37:15.479 a little better, secondary a little better. 1:37:16.120 --> 1:37:19.200 Maybe it's because they're doing a lot more twisting, blitzing. 1:37:18.720 --> 1:37:22.320 And and to Betrius Knight really step forward at times today. 1:37:22.400 --> 1:37:25.840 Yeah, but these guys are all all American blue chip 1:37:25.920 --> 1:37:29.120 or easier the top shelf players coming up big, big programs, 1:37:29.400 --> 1:37:32.439 and for some reason it's not gelling on Sundays. And 1:37:32.479 --> 1:37:35.799 that's what we has to fix. We're picking great players, 1:37:36.000 --> 1:37:38.280 it has to fix itself on Sunday. 1:37:39.560 --> 1:37:41.799 We've reached the top of the hour break at eight o'clock. 1:37:41.840 --> 1:37:43.920 We have a half hour to go. 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And 1:39:38.600 --> 1:39:40.679 the first thing we got to do here this half hour, 1:39:41.240 --> 1:39:45.599 mister Kozerski, is let's review today's Postman Law injury report, 1:39:46.160 --> 1:39:50.200 brought to you by Postman Law Injured called eight four 1:39:50.240 --> 1:39:55.599 to four Postman Others promise, Postman delivers and Chris Jenkins 1:39:55.600 --> 1:39:56.799 had a ankle injury. 1:39:56.880 --> 1:39:58.439 On the first play of the eighties. They made a 1:39:58.439 --> 1:39:59.880 tackle in the pocket down on him. 1:40:00.080 --> 1:40:03.760 Yes, devastating early U Sama J. 1:40:03.960 --> 1:40:07.160 P Ryan got nipped up with with an ankle. He 1:40:07.280 --> 1:40:09.840 went inside, came back out, played. 1:40:09.760 --> 1:40:11.920 Tough dude right there. Oh he robed the way he 1:40:11.920 --> 1:40:12.679 plays football. 1:40:12.880 --> 1:40:16.040 Yes, And later in the game Cody Ford had to 1:40:16.080 --> 1:40:21.880 come in fresh at ten degrees minus one win chill 1:40:22.200 --> 1:40:23.479 filling in for am Arius Man. 1:40:23.560 --> 1:40:25.599 That's the one that I'm worried about the most. He's 1:40:25.640 --> 1:40:28.200 such a valuable part of that front because I think 1:40:28.200 --> 1:40:29.439 it was playing great football. 1:40:29.520 --> 1:40:31.880 Some sort of a knee injury or a you know, 1:40:31.960 --> 1:40:33.120 lower body injury. 1:40:33.680 --> 1:40:36.400 So there's no little dude either, that's for sure. 1:40:36.600 --> 1:40:42.120 And that is your Postman Law Injury Reports brought to 1:40:42.160 --> 1:40:45.600 you by Postman Law Injured called eight four to four Postman. 1:40:45.920 --> 1:40:51.519 Others promise, Postman delivers. And we want to give a 1:40:51.560 --> 1:40:55.040 shout out to the Walter Payton Man of the Year 1:40:56.400 --> 1:41:00.000 for the Cincinnati Bengals, and that is center Ted Carris. Carris, 1:41:00.120 --> 1:41:03.000 and here's the guy could have started his own business 1:41:03.320 --> 1:41:05.920 and made a ton of money off since he had yep, 1:41:06.040 --> 1:41:09.040 but he's turned that into his. 1:41:08.200 --> 1:41:11.880 His charitable donation fundraiser and it's amazing. It's taken off 1:41:11.960 --> 1:41:16.360 like crazy. I just was at the dinner the other night. 1:41:16.400 --> 1:41:20.639 Anthony Munhos at his foundation sells one of the raffle items, 1:41:20.680 --> 1:41:23.200 and he and Ted got together and put together this 1:41:23.280 --> 1:41:28.120 deal with Ted's new offensive line and Anthony's old offensive line. 1:41:28.439 --> 1:41:31.959 So we threw in lap him in our group, and 1:41:32.120 --> 1:41:35.800 Ted threw in everybody on the offensive line. Joe showed up, 1:41:35.880 --> 1:41:37.519 Joe Burrow showed up for a little while. We had 1:41:37.520 --> 1:41:39.920 a great time. And if you can put all those 1:41:39.960 --> 1:41:43.639 big carcasses in one room with two sponsors, Anthony Munia's 1:41:43.640 --> 1:41:47.120 foundation is an amazing They do so much good work 1:41:47.240 --> 1:41:51.000 and to pair with Ted and what he does is phenomenal. 1:41:51.320 --> 1:41:53.400 I'm so happy to be part of that group. 1:41:53.720 --> 1:41:54.639 No doubt about it. 1:41:54.720 --> 1:41:58.160 And postgame sports Talk is also brought to you by 1:41:58.800 --> 1:42:02.439 M and P Logistics. From first down to final mile, 1:42:03.120 --> 1:42:07.799 MNP delivers, you can depend on it. And my good friend, 1:42:07.960 --> 1:42:11.000 really the first quarterback when I got the job is 1:42:11.040 --> 1:42:13.799 the Bengals beat writer for the Dayton Daily News full time. 1:42:14.560 --> 1:42:17.760 The quarterback was Jeff Blake. Yeah, played with Jeff, played 1:42:17.800 --> 1:42:20.920 with Jeff back. He was a Jet for two years 1:42:21.080 --> 1:42:25.000 nineteen ninety two nineteen ninety three. Bengals picked him up 1:42:25.040 --> 1:42:30.719 when he got basically waived yep by the New York Jets. 1:42:30.960 --> 1:42:34.200 Bruce Coslet knew all about him. He came into Cincinnati, 1:42:34.520 --> 1:42:38.600 played from ninety four through nineteen ninety nine. He was 1:42:38.640 --> 1:42:41.559 with the New Orleans Saints for two years, the Ravens 1:42:41.600 --> 1:42:44.599 in two thousand and two, the Cardinals in two thousand 1:42:44.640 --> 1:42:47.760 and three, the Eagles in four, and the Bears and five. 1:42:48.120 --> 1:42:50.639 He carved out a fourteen year career. 1:42:51.479 --> 1:42:52.080 You know what I'm saying. 1:42:52.200 --> 1:42:54.240 All he did was throw a touchdown passes the Carl 1:42:54.280 --> 1:42:59.240 Pickens all day. He just came those those screen makers, 1:42:59.240 --> 1:43:01.160 they just drop right in the bucket. 1:43:01.240 --> 1:43:01.439 Yeah. 1:43:01.520 --> 1:43:04.160 And then the Bengals Legends book that I wrote, I 1:43:04.200 --> 1:43:07.360 mean Lapp told me it came down the chimney. Yeah, 1:43:07.520 --> 1:43:12.439 that is through the most beautiful rainbows. If you have time, 1:43:12.560 --> 1:43:17.559 go onto YouTube just plug in Jeff Blake and deep 1:43:17.600 --> 1:43:20.800 ball thrower. Nobody threw a prettier deep ball. 1:43:20.920 --> 1:43:23.960 And I'm serious in NFL. 1:43:23.680 --> 1:43:25.920 History are there they talk all the time about the 1:43:25.960 --> 1:43:28.800 current Russell Wilson era. When the deep balls that he 1:43:28.880 --> 1:43:30.800 threw the state, that's exactly the same thing. They come 1:43:30.880 --> 1:43:33.240 right down in the bucket. It's like, that's a heck 1:43:33.280 --> 1:43:34.920 of a pass when you can throw it into a 1:43:34.960 --> 1:43:38.280 five gallon bucket from forty yards away, no doubt, no doubt. 1:43:38.400 --> 1:43:42.040 That's And then and to have Jeff Blake come back 1:43:42.080 --> 1:43:44.400 as the ruler of the Jungle. I feel so bad 1:43:44.439 --> 1:43:47.120 that the Bengals get shut out twenty four to nothing. 1:43:48.040 --> 1:43:51.200 But yeah, he was a former Raven and a former Bengal. 1:43:51.640 --> 1:43:56.280 And Neil O'Donnell took over as the quarterback after Jeff. 1:43:56.640 --> 1:43:58.400 He was kicked out of New York. You think about 1:43:58.400 --> 1:44:01.280 how much turmoil the Jets have been in. Yeah, you 1:44:01.360 --> 1:44:03.680 wonder you let go of a guy with that ability, 1:44:04.080 --> 1:44:06.600 and you wonder why they can't win, why they're so 1:44:07.080 --> 1:44:08.960 up and down and up, and they win a couple 1:44:08.960 --> 1:44:10.240 of games in the row that they lose ten. 1:44:10.360 --> 1:44:13.960 It is just the you want with a management for crimedlight? 1:44:14.080 --> 1:44:15.320 Is is that what it is? 1:44:15.320 --> 1:44:15.559 There? 1:44:15.960 --> 1:44:19.360 As well? You know, is it? The Bengals have a. 1:44:19.360 --> 1:44:22.200 Lot of questions, and people questioned Mike Brown and the 1:44:22.280 --> 1:44:25.120 organization for the way they handle their business. But what 1:44:25.160 --> 1:44:28.400 about the Jets? Yes, you know, I mean the Giants. 1:44:28.720 --> 1:44:31.360 The Giants had a winning era, but what did it take? 1:44:31.640 --> 1:44:34.559 You know, it took Hall of famers pull it off, 1:44:34.560 --> 1:44:35.479 and now they can't get out. 1:44:35.360 --> 1:44:35.840 Of their own way. 1:44:35.920 --> 1:44:40.240 That's right, Lawrence Taylor, Yeah, Bill Parcels, Yeah wow. And 1:44:40.320 --> 1:44:44.759 also Bruce, let's check on Cincinnati's defensive secondary coverage today, 1:44:45.280 --> 1:44:48.599 brought to you by coversince he dot com local health 1:44:48.640 --> 1:44:52.320 insurance experts for over twenty years. And all you can 1:44:52.400 --> 1:44:56.599 say is consistency. They'll look good for a few plays 1:44:56.640 --> 1:44:57.960 and then they'll blow a coverage. 1:44:58.160 --> 1:45:01.599 Yeah, it's it's the name of the game. We talked 1:45:01.600 --> 1:45:06.120 about this several times this evening. You defensively, you you 1:45:06.600 --> 1:45:09.280 run all those snaps and and you're you're looking great 1:45:09.280 --> 1:45:11.880 and then you blow a coverage. It just destroys all 1:45:11.920 --> 1:45:14.080 the work you did leading up to that. They had 1:45:14.120 --> 1:45:18.040 thirty two thirty six plays and eight of them were 1:45:18.040 --> 1:45:20.360 for more than twenty yards. Yes, and you know that's 1:45:20.400 --> 1:45:21.960 that's a losing formula right there. 1:45:22.520 --> 1:45:27.280 Yeah, the touchdown pass the jay Toose Flowers and uh 1:45:27.760 --> 1:45:30.439 rashen Ali on the uh on the swing. 1:45:30.280 --> 1:45:33.840 Pass screen thirty yards untouched. 1:45:34.120 --> 1:45:39.160 So just uh. And you could tell our defensive coaches 1:45:39.200 --> 1:45:43.080 were were bombing, have no doubt on that. On that series. 1:45:43.400 --> 1:45:46.559 Oh, you can't imagine what's going on in in their 1:45:46.560 --> 1:45:50.520 meeting rooms because you know they're they're still talking about 1:45:50.680 --> 1:45:53.000 what happened today, and they'll be talking about it tomorrow 1:45:53.000 --> 1:45:54.639 and then they'll bring their players in and talk about 1:45:54.680 --> 1:45:57.679 it again, and you know it's reliving a nightmare. 1:45:58.040 --> 1:46:01.320 You're absolutely right, And that is the defensive secondary Coverage 1:46:01.360 --> 1:46:05.120 Report brought to you by Cover. Since he dot Com 1:46:05.200 --> 1:46:07.640 and Jordan Battle did pick off that that was a 1:46:07.720 --> 1:46:10.400 heads up play, a ball that bounced off the hands 1:46:10.400 --> 1:46:13.799 of Zave Flowers and then his high yes, a diving 1:46:13.920 --> 1:46:16.360 he was able to keep his hands underneath that ball 1:46:16.720 --> 1:46:20.000 and pin it against his leg so it wouldn't hit 1:46:20.040 --> 1:46:20.479 the ground. 1:46:20.920 --> 1:46:22.760 I was I was afraid after I saw it come 1:46:22.760 --> 1:46:24.920 off and get pinned against his leg that they might 1:46:24.920 --> 1:46:26.800 come up with one of those creative overalls. 1:46:27.320 --> 1:46:29.360 Yeah, but he did pin it and I rolled over 1:46:29.520 --> 1:46:30.360 just to the nick of time. 1:46:30.520 --> 1:46:32.760 That's exactly right. And it did not touch the ground. 1:46:32.800 --> 1:46:34.120 Did not touch it. Fantastic. 1:46:34.160 --> 1:46:37.160 And yeah, that's cover since he dot com cover, since 1:46:37.200 --> 1:46:40.920 he has you covered with affordable health insurance plans for 1:46:41.160 --> 1:46:47.840 over twenty years now. How difficult is it, Bruce Kezerski 1:46:48.040 --> 1:46:53.519 number one to bounce back from this? It especially going 1:46:53.600 --> 1:46:56.360 from zero degrees in Cincinnati. 1:46:57.360 --> 1:46:58.920 It's gonna be very cold this week. 1:46:59.479 --> 1:47:06.360 Two Miami Gardens, Florida. And yeah, it sounds rosy, but man, 1:47:06.520 --> 1:47:10.000 your body has to undergo some big time change. 1:47:10.280 --> 1:47:13.240 I think the rather the warm weather than the what 1:47:13.320 --> 1:47:15.600 we had today. I think as general, especially when you 1:47:15.600 --> 1:47:17.920 get down the end of the season, you're really playing 1:47:18.000 --> 1:47:22.040 for pride and you're playing for next season, impressing the powers. 1:47:21.720 --> 1:47:24.160 That be to make those business decisions. 1:47:24.320 --> 1:47:27.839 You're gonna play hard no matter where you play, because 1:47:27.880 --> 1:47:29.160 a lot of these guys are playing. 1:47:28.960 --> 1:47:31.320 For their future and now a lot of fans are 1:47:31.320 --> 1:47:32.600 gonna be screaming. 1:47:32.400 --> 1:47:34.519 Every game they play for the future. Don't get me wrong. 1:47:34.520 --> 1:47:37.160 They're always playing for the future, but with nothing to. 1:47:37.160 --> 1:47:38.720 Gain other than a few wins at the end of 1:47:38.760 --> 1:47:40.760 the season. They're really playing for it now. 1:47:42.600 --> 1:47:46.519 There was a report that I remember years ago talking 1:47:46.520 --> 1:47:51.439 about the toughness of offensive linemen just by and I 1:47:51.439 --> 1:47:55.120 think Ball State University conducted this study. You put on 1:47:55.200 --> 1:47:59.920 a rain coat and run full speed into your garage door. Yeah, 1:48:00.120 --> 1:48:01.679 try that like sixty times. 1:48:01.760 --> 1:48:03.880 The train wrecks there. They're no, it's not a collision 1:48:03.920 --> 1:48:07.280 sport for offensive lineman. They're train wrecks. Every every play 1:48:07.360 --> 1:48:10.240 is a train wreck. I remember uh walking into the 1:48:10.240 --> 1:48:12.479 training room after a game and Chris collins Worth. They're 1:48:12.479 --> 1:48:14.760 sitting up on the training table with ice on both 1:48:14.800 --> 1:48:17.759 knees and both elbows. I said, Man, you got whack today. 1:48:17.760 --> 1:48:20.519 He said, cas I get it once maybe twice a game. 1:48:20.600 --> 1:48:22.800 You guys get it every play. I don't know how 1:48:22.800 --> 1:48:25.160 you do it. Yeah, that's one from coming from one 1:48:25.200 --> 1:48:28.280 from within the game. You know, makes a lot of sense. 1:48:28.320 --> 1:48:31.000 But pe we all pay for it, you know. Going 1:48:31.040 --> 1:48:33.560 on my next second, next surgery, had knee replacement. 1:48:33.720 --> 1:48:36.840 It's you know, it's it's it's just I wouldn't take 1:48:36.840 --> 1:48:40.000 it training for a second. But we love it. 1:48:40.080 --> 1:48:42.559 Yeah, And I remember shaking hands with Well, with Anthony 1:48:42.640 --> 1:48:46.120 and with Anthony Munjo's and Richie Braham. 1:48:45.920 --> 1:48:48.040 And man the the releave hooks. 1:48:48.080 --> 1:48:50.960 The Yeah, the hands and the fingers man that get 1:48:51.040 --> 1:48:53.320 broken and bent and. 1:48:52.960 --> 1:48:56.360 No ligaments and the fingers the thumbs are all flexible 1:48:56.360 --> 1:49:01.519 and multiple different directions. But again it's none of us 1:49:02.080 --> 1:49:04.280 would trade it for a second. We we we get 1:49:04.280 --> 1:49:06.960 together at functions, like I said at the Anthony Munius 1:49:07.000 --> 1:49:08.760 thing the other night, the fundraiser. 1:49:08.520 --> 1:49:10.120 Uh, we just have a great time. 1:49:10.160 --> 1:49:12.320 We went to the Jim McNally Hall of Fame induction 1:49:12.400 --> 1:49:14.479 in Canton this summer. Yes, all of us showed up. 1:49:14.479 --> 1:49:16.439 We had it's like old times. We can not see 1:49:16.479 --> 1:49:18.840 each other. Bruce Rhymers come in from Iowa. Haven't seen 1:49:18.920 --> 1:49:20.800 him in years, unbelievable. 1:49:21.120 --> 1:49:26.840 And Jim McNally, the yep d Many period, he just 1:49:27.360 --> 1:49:29.720 had a birthday eighty two, eighty two. 1:49:29.760 --> 1:49:32.880 Congratulations Jimmy. He's a he's a one of a kind 1:49:32.880 --> 1:49:37.640 of fantastic coach. Revolutionary, I mean revolutionary, he taught he 1:49:37.720 --> 1:49:40.040 taught things that were way ahead of their time. That 1:49:40.439 --> 1:49:43.760 and he created a whole litany of coaches that have 1:49:43.800 --> 1:49:46.440 come down over the years that claimed to be McNally disciples. 1:49:46.479 --> 1:49:48.439 And and we love the guy. Uh. 1:49:48.560 --> 1:49:52.120 He pushed us beyond our expectations, made men out of us. 1:49:52.200 --> 1:49:53.960 Really, he truly is the guru. 1:49:54.160 --> 1:49:59.439 And I would encourage high school coaches to check out 1:49:59.479 --> 1:50:02.120 his training on it's free. 1:50:02.439 --> 1:50:03.760 You're going on YouTube. 1:50:04.120 --> 1:50:05.480 Check out the guru. 1:50:05.280 --> 1:50:08.599 He has, he's he's done I don't know, one hundred 1:50:08.640 --> 1:50:12.479 thousand clinics, and he makes videos and he sells his videos. 1:50:12.520 --> 1:50:14.280 And I don't care who you are, you can learn 1:50:14.280 --> 1:50:17.559 something from watching his videos. He sends us on our string, 1:50:17.600 --> 1:50:21.479 our tech string, videos of him every day doing ten chins. 1:50:22.080 --> 1:50:23.759 Yes, then he'll then they'll step. 1:50:23.560 --> 1:50:25.080 Down for a second, wait a minute, go back and 1:50:25.120 --> 1:50:27.639 do ten more chins. He's eighty two years old, chick. 1:50:28.040 --> 1:50:30.720 He's just he's just an incredible you incredible guy. 1:50:30.760 --> 1:50:32.880 And we we we hope the best for Jimmy. 1:50:32.960 --> 1:50:36.960 That is fantastic. Yeah, And you know and where you know, 1:50:37.000 --> 1:50:38.960 the Bengals are getting ready to go down to Miami 1:50:39.560 --> 1:50:42.519 then come home for two games. When this when the 1:50:42.560 --> 1:50:43.800 schedule came out and you. 1:50:43.880 --> 1:50:46.120 Saw the end, you know the end. 1:50:46.120 --> 1:50:46.479 I'm there. 1:50:46.680 --> 1:50:49.440 Wow, this has a real. 1:50:49.280 --> 1:50:50.280 Chance to be special. 1:50:50.960 --> 1:50:54.800 And I said ten and seven to start the year, 1:50:55.160 --> 1:50:56.840 and then when Joe went down, it was gonna be 1:50:57.320 --> 1:50:58.599 I'm there five and twelve. 1:50:59.120 --> 1:51:01.479 Yeah, you know, just as you know what you're facing now, 1:51:01.520 --> 1:51:02.600 as you're facing. 1:51:03.360 --> 1:51:06.679 Desperate teams in every week, you're facing teams that are 1:51:06.680 --> 1:51:10.840 in the same boat. They've all lost their season, they're 1:51:10.880 --> 1:51:13.400 out of the playoffs, they have nothing to play for. 1:51:13.560 --> 1:51:14.599 Except for their futures. 1:51:14.640 --> 1:51:17.000 Now you're going to see what these guys are made of, 1:51:17.160 --> 1:51:18.599 and on both sides of the ball. 1:51:19.520 --> 1:51:22.160 And there's going to be detractors to you know, to 1:51:22.280 --> 1:51:22.840 Joe Burrow. 1:51:23.160 --> 1:51:27.040 We hear it in some of the voices of the fans, 1:51:27.600 --> 1:51:31.920 you know, the money that he's making, the he's a 1:51:32.000 --> 1:51:33.599 he's a fashion conscious guy. 1:51:33.880 --> 1:51:34.960 Yeah, I love it. 1:51:35.040 --> 1:51:36.840 I mean he marches to the beat of his own 1:51:36.960 --> 1:51:40.640 druma man, and he's got his own like fashion advisor. 1:51:41.400 --> 1:51:44.840 This guy mister Smith who uh yeah, you. 1:51:44.920 --> 1:51:47.200 Know that's that's that's for his that's for the people 1:51:47.200 --> 1:51:49.360 out there that love and adore him, yes, and and 1:51:49.800 --> 1:51:52.040 the guys that play with him and the guys that 1:51:53.200 --> 1:51:54.040 bradened the game. 1:51:54.240 --> 1:51:55.040 He was at dinner the. 1:51:55.040 --> 1:51:56.840 Other night with us. He has the Paris wet pants on. 1:51:57.400 --> 1:51:59.960 You know that's a hoodie. You know that's Joe. That's 1:52:00.080 --> 1:52:03.559 where he's comfortable. Yes, but he does that because he 1:52:03.840 --> 1:52:06.000 trying to lead this city back to greatness. 1:52:06.040 --> 1:52:08.360 And I got appreciate that about the man. Yeah, you know, 1:52:08.400 --> 1:52:08.680 it was. 1:52:08.640 --> 1:52:10.760 Just a few years ago with number one that you know, 1:52:10.800 --> 1:52:16.360 the Super Bowl run, the new uniforms, Jamar Chase doing 1:52:16.360 --> 1:52:18.200 the gritty. 1:52:18.360 --> 1:52:20.120 This team had a national following. 1:52:20.280 --> 1:52:21.000 Yeah it was. 1:52:21.360 --> 1:52:23.639 It was kind of the young sexy team out there, 1:52:23.920 --> 1:52:26.360 right And now, okay, now it's a struggle. 1:52:26.840 --> 1:52:28.160 So fans are upset. 1:52:28.439 --> 1:52:32.120 I agree with that, but only once team can win 1:52:32.120 --> 1:52:35.960 the Super Bowl, get geared up, finish this year strong, 1:52:36.240 --> 1:52:39.960 get some draft picks, get this defense fixed, and let's 1:52:39.960 --> 1:52:40.880 go to war next year. 1:52:40.960 --> 1:52:41.240 I would. 1:52:41.280 --> 1:52:43.439 I would look look forward so forward to next year, 1:52:43.479 --> 1:52:46.000 wait and see how frantic next year is going to be. 1:52:46.520 --> 1:52:49.280 With the Chiefs out of it already and and Buffalo 1:52:49.439 --> 1:52:50.880 not playing well, I don't think they're going to go 1:52:51.040 --> 1:52:52.880 very deep with they even if they get in. The 1:52:52.920 --> 1:52:55.639 Bengals are out of it already. You know the Cowboys 1:52:55.640 --> 1:52:59.240 are out of with all these great, great fifty sixty 1:52:59.280 --> 1:53:02.120 million quarter you wait and see how crazy the league 1:53:02.160 --> 1:53:04.800 is gonna be next year when you got upstart quarterbacks 1:53:04.800 --> 1:53:08.839 like Caleb Williams and Jordan Love and all these fantasts. 1:53:08.840 --> 1:53:10.040 It's gonna be just amazing. 1:53:10.120 --> 1:53:13.519 Get Trevor Lawrence, Trevor Lawrence, everybody stroud. 1:53:13.880 --> 1:53:17.000 There is no such thing as as a push game. 1:53:17.120 --> 1:53:21.839 Yeah, and even Bryce Young Yeah. And then Washington commanders 1:53:21.960 --> 1:53:24.679 Ja Jade and Daniels then just go to be back, 1:53:25.000 --> 1:53:28.320 hopefully one hundred percent healthy. So yeah, here's the guy 1:53:28.320 --> 1:53:31.120 that went to the NFC Championship game last year. He 1:53:31.160 --> 1:53:35.479 got injured. Washington's down. So misery loves company. 1:53:35.680 --> 1:53:37.559 So many of these quarters, so many of these these 1:53:37.600 --> 1:53:41.559 franchises have their franchise quarterback. Right, there's gonna be more 1:53:41.560 --> 1:53:44.120 exciting guys coming in the league as receivers and running 1:53:44.120 --> 1:53:47.200 backs and huge offensive lineman. They're getting bigger check these 1:53:47.240 --> 1:53:49.320 linemen are getting here. When I played, we used to 1:53:49.360 --> 1:53:51.400 talk about the average of two ninety five or three 1:53:51.479 --> 1:53:52.200 hundred pounds. 1:53:52.320 --> 1:53:54.680 Wow, they're big. They're over three hundred pounds. How's a 1:53:54.720 --> 1:53:56.360 dinner with these guys? The other night and the case. 1:53:56.400 --> 1:53:58.760 Yeah, I think we average about three twenty five, three 1:53:58.880 --> 1:53:59.920 thirty up and down the board. 1:54:00.360 --> 1:54:02.960 And this was kind of even the backups included or 1:54:03.000 --> 1:54:04.719 three are that big? They're massive? 1:54:05.320 --> 1:54:08.160 Yeah, and what Anthony played it, what like two ninety five. 1:54:09.040 --> 1:54:11.080 I was two eighty seven to ninety something like that. 1:54:11.200 --> 1:54:13.920 My Toya the same. Joe Walder was huge at three 1:54:13.960 --> 1:54:16.960 oh five. Brian Blados was huge at three three oh five, 1:54:17.040 --> 1:54:21.479 three ten, Bruce Bruce Ymers six seven ninety five. Those 1:54:21.479 --> 1:54:23.120 were the guys that said that they were. That's what 1:54:23.160 --> 1:54:25.680 made us big is Joe was sixty seven, Brimers was 1:54:25.720 --> 1:54:26.240 six seven. 1:54:26.520 --> 1:54:28.120 You know, all the rest of us were six five. 1:54:28.400 --> 1:54:31.240 And it wasn't wasn't it you guys that got measured 1:54:31.280 --> 1:54:33.400 on it some kind of Uh No. 1:54:33.480 --> 1:54:34.400 It wasn't me per se. 1:54:34.400 --> 1:54:37.080 But yeah, we had uh we had four guys away 1:54:37.160 --> 1:54:39.040 in at to ninety two. 1:54:39.600 --> 1:54:41.440 And was it was it a regular scale or was 1:54:41.440 --> 1:54:42.720 it some kind was it? 1:54:42.720 --> 1:54:45.000 It was a normal training camp type of scale, kind 1:54:45.000 --> 1:54:46.800 of like your bathroom scale was an oversize. 1:54:46.960 --> 1:54:48.240 But Sam didn't believe it. 1:54:48.240 --> 1:54:50.280 So he took those four guys down at the Buckley 1:54:50.280 --> 1:54:52.680 Green and feet in Wilmington and made him get on 1:54:52.760 --> 1:54:54.480 the scale. And I'm not gonna mention the names either 1:54:54.640 --> 1:54:56.160 got on the scale one at a time, and every 1:54:56.200 --> 1:54:58.360 one of them was the well over the three hundred mark. 1:54:58.720 --> 1:55:01.720 That's when all the diets started. Oh man, that is wild. 1:55:01.760 --> 1:55:03.680 But I didn't have to make that trip. That's wild. 1:55:03.720 --> 1:55:04.800 He picked out four guys. 1:55:04.800 --> 1:55:06.840 He picked out the four guys in gosh, you could 1:55:06.840 --> 1:55:10.760 tell if if if cous is eighty six. 1:55:10.600 --> 1:55:14.240 And he's ninety, there's no way that guy's ninety two. Yeah. 1:55:14.480 --> 1:55:17.320 Yeah, oh man, Yeah, we read about that. 1:55:17.480 --> 1:55:21.240 The grain, the Buckley Grain and feet stow up in Wilmington, Ohio. Man, 1:55:21.280 --> 1:55:23.920 that's a drive through truck scale. 1:55:24.400 --> 1:55:25.160 Just phenomenal. 1:55:25.680 --> 1:55:30.920 Hey, really appreciate you being my partner this year at 1:55:30.920 --> 1:55:38.040 different times, and really appreciated Bruce Cosly it there, Bruce, Yeah, 1:55:38.120 --> 1:55:40.840 cause yeah, that's all right. That was my first head 1:55:40.880 --> 1:55:43.120 coach when I got to beat Is that right? So yeah, Bruce, 1:55:43.280 --> 1:55:46.080 Bruce Cosley and he's getting up there too, man. 1:55:46.160 --> 1:55:47.680 Yeah, they all are. We all are. 1:55:47.760 --> 1:55:50.280 Yeah, you know, Chick, I appreciate the opportunity to look 1:55:50.280 --> 1:55:52.840 forward to do it in the future. Please look me up. 1:55:52.880 --> 1:55:55.280 I'm more than willing to come down here and spend 1:55:55.360 --> 1:55:56.200 some time helping. 1:55:56.640 --> 1:55:56.880 UH. 1:55:56.960 --> 1:55:59.800 I love talking about the Bengals, and I love the organization. 1:55:59.840 --> 1:56:02.080 I hope they turn this thing around next year and 1:56:02.080 --> 1:56:05.080 make it successful so that everybody has nothing to talk about. 1:56:05.120 --> 1:56:08.160 And then maybe bad football makes for great radio. 1:56:08.280 --> 1:56:10.000 We'll have to come up with a new touchline. 1:56:10.040 --> 1:56:11.440 That's exactly what we want to tire. 1:56:11.360 --> 1:56:14.800 Out their greatness because we remember how awesome this place 1:56:15.000 --> 1:56:16.720 was wherever we ho. 1:56:16.720 --> 1:56:19.480 How good was your show when they were winning? They 1:56:19.520 --> 1:56:20.360 went to the Super. 1:56:20.160 --> 1:56:22.840 Bowl, the place was packed. Yeah, it was just phenomenal. 1:56:23.080 --> 1:56:27.360 So on behalf of my partner, Bruce Kazerski, our engineer awesome, 1:56:28.000 --> 1:56:31.400 Mike Mills, and back at the studio Sean McMahon and 1:56:32.760 --> 1:56:36.800 Danny Gleason. This is the Chickster Chick Ludwig saying thanks 1:56:36.840 --> 1:56:41.120 for listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealer's post game 1:56:41.200 --> 1:56:44.840 Sports Talk presented by Arnel Carriers live from Wings and 1:56:44.920 --> 1:56:49.680 Rings in Union, Kentucky on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's 1:56:49.920 --> 1:56:52.640 ESPN fifteen thirty. Make the holiday season. Mayor