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Speaker 2: Cincinnati ESPN fifteen thirty. This is Chick Ludwig and I'm

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Speaker 2: alongside Bengals legendary offensive lineman Bruce Kozerski, and we're breaking

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Speaker 2: down the Bengals loss to the Baltimore Ravens like a

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Speaker 2: wrecking ball. Mike Mills is our on site engineer Sean

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Speaker 2: Carlin five one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand and Bruce,

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Speaker 2: I'd like to take this opportunity to declare the Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Bengals twenty twenty five season d dead on departure at

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Speaker 2: pay Course Stadium on Sunday today, bruised, battered, bloodied, and

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Speaker 2: not just beaten, but annihilated and shut out for the

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Speaker 2: first time in the Joe Burrow era by the Baltimore Bullies.

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Speaker 3: Man does to get any worse than this.

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Speaker 4: I think you should get your blood pressure up a

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Speaker 4: little bit there, chick.

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Speaker 2: Maybe have another coffee, Maybe you have another yes, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is just the moralizing defeat.

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Speaker 5: You know, your opposing quarterback, as good as he is,

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Speaker 5: completes eight eight passes. He completes eight passes against your defense.

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Speaker 5: They went twenty four to nothing. I mean, that shouldn't

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Speaker 5: happen in this league. They were only ran for one

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Speaker 5: hundred and fifty. I mean they say only because they

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Speaker 5: put they put up all those points against this We

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Speaker 5: moved the ball off to doutfield. But when you got

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Speaker 5: the red zone, that the thirty yard line whatever, I

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Speaker 5: think we were over three or oh for four down

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Speaker 5: there were we and we didn't even get a field

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Speaker 2: No, no, it was It was bad all the way around.

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Speaker 2: And Joe Burrow said this week, well he wants to

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Speaker 2: have fun playing football. Well, today was not fun for anybody,

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Speaker 2: and that includes the fans. And I've got to give

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Speaker 2: a shout out to all the spectators who made it

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Speaker 2: down to pay Corpse Stadium today. Ten degrees minus one

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Speaker 2: degree Winshield. And we're talking to fans here at Wings

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Speaker 2: and Rings and they're telling me who were at the game,

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Speaker 2: snow was not removed from the seats.

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Speaker 3: So they're upset about that.

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Speaker 2: And they weren't allowed to bring cardboard in to stand

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Speaker 5: I don't know about all that. I wasn't there. You

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Speaker 5: got more contact with the people that were at the ball. Again,

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Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just the average retired fans sitting in

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Speaker 5: played in cold games like this, I know it takes

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Speaker 5: a lot of steam out of a team. It either

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Speaker 5: it either fires you up to work through the cold

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Speaker 5: when you're successful, or just moralizing when you're not. And

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Speaker 5: they had some situations early in that game where they

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Speaker 5: moved it, they made some plays, and then all of

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Speaker 5: a sudden, we take a sack. You know, that first

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Speaker 4: We take a sack.

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Speaker 5: I don't think, I mean, Joe can't make that Play's

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Speaker 5: that's when I as an offensive lineman, I remember countless

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Speaker 5: times running back to the hell Town Boomer throw the

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Speaker 5: offensive lineman that we were, we had a clock in

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Speaker 5: our head too, and we never wanted a Boomer to

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Speaker 5: we'll throw the damn ball, but it's it's it's a

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Speaker 4: You throw it and they catch it, and that's that's

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Speaker 4: a that's bad.

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Speaker 2: The shutout was the Ravens first since crushing the Tennessee

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Speaker 2: Titans twenty one to nothing on October fourteen, twenty eighteen. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: the Bengals suffered their first zero since a twenty to

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Speaker 2: nothing lost to Baltimore in Cincinnati on September ten, twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: That year's season opener in Baltimore. Improves to seven and seven.

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Speaker 2: They're still in the race here in the AFC North,

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Speaker 2: while the Bengals with all this talent, falls to four

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Speaker 2: They're two and five at pay Course Stadium.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that it has much to do with

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Speaker 5: do over the last uh Lamar Jackson era. But it's

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Speaker 5: it's it seems like there's a stat out there. I

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Speaker 5: heard today thirty seven percent of the time that Higgins

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Speaker 5: that's the sad part. There's there's so much invest in

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Speaker 5: those guys and in the franchise that that they got

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Speaker 5: us stay healthy. We got to find a way that

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Speaker 5: just keep them healthy. But but at the same time,

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Speaker 5: we got to fund the defense too. We gotta we

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Speaker 5: gotta put some sub butts on that defense line. We

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Speaker 5: gotta put some young linebackers, a couple. They played well

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Speaker 5: today at times and then they played badly at times.

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Speaker 5: You know, that's what you get with a young group.

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Speaker 2: Two Joe Burrow interceptions, several drop passes, horrible horrible clock

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Speaker 2: management by head coach Zach Taylor, and the usual defensive

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Speaker 2: breakdowns helped cause Cincinnati's poorest.

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Speaker 3: Performance not just this year but in years.

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Speaker 2: And man, it spoils the return. May I say of

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Speaker 2: Jeff Blake as the ruler of the jungle, He's a

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Speaker 2: never appreciated and uh just man, it's just sickening to

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Speaker 5: So, yeah, you know they were they were down by

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Speaker 5: They got to get three or four, but they gotta

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Speaker 5: was watching the game with my boys that that's that's

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Speaker 5: five runs in a row.

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Speaker 4: Six minutes to go in the game, that's five runs

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know when when they ran the ball, they

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Speaker 3: It's when you.

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Speaker 2: Get when you get into a second and a third

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Speaker 5: Deception is your is your enemy. When you think it's

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Speaker 5: Because they think you're gonna throw it and you don't.

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Speaker 5: It looks bad when your your money guys are your

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that's your money. That's your money backs.

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Speaker 2: And especially with the Zach Taylor, it's his religion to

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Speaker 5: Jamar Chase targeted sixteen times, ten receptions, one hundred and

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Speaker 5: fifteen hundred and twenty yards. Yeah, great day, Yes, but

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Speaker 5: who else did you know you had you had Tyler Hudson,

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Speaker 4: Who else? Who else stepped up today to help help out? Uh?

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Speaker 5: Not Yosebash. You know what happens. No, not Yoshi Vash.

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Speaker 5: You know what happens on those cold days. Those gloves

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Speaker 4: They're like they're frozen. And I don't know why.

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Speaker 5: There has to be something that they can make a

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Speaker 5: that both teams had a problem with that. Early the

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Speaker 5: then the very next possession, Lamar throws one and it

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Speaker 4: So you don't see much of that.

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Speaker 5: You saw the drop Tinsley in the end zone. The

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Speaker 5: Yoshi Vash. You should have been caught. And that seems

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Speaker 2: You are listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame

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Speaker 4: He's Bruce Kazerski. This is chick Ludwig.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to.

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Speaker 2: The Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame sports Talk presented by

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Speaker 3: We are at.

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Speaker 2: Wings and Rings in beautiful Union, Kentucky on US forty two.

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Speaker 3: Come on out. Bruce Kezerski and I are here till

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Speaker 3: eight thirty tonight.

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Speaker 4: And we made it.

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Speaker 5: The weather cleared up beautifully for the show. It's not

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Speaker 5: even cold in here.

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Speaker 3: I'll admit I was a little panicky last night.

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Speaker 2: I was at the studio, had to drive back to

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Speaker 2: the Miamisburg War Room.

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Speaker 3: It was ugly.

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Speaker 2: It took me two hours, and I was worried about today.

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Speaker 4: I don't doubt it.

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Speaker 5: I family over the house for a Christmas party, and

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Speaker 5: I was worried about them.

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Speaker 4: Even getting home.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I appreciate the fan. Tyler from Union coming up

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Speaker 2: wanting a picture your first picture.

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Speaker 4: Of the sea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, first first photo of the season.

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Speaker 3: Usually it's the Bengals city.

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Speaker 5: You know, how wack and photo Jedek you were, Oh

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Speaker 5: my gosh, yeah, it almost broke.

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Speaker 3: It broke his camera.

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Speaker 2: Phone, no doubt. But a shout out to Bristol and Brinley,

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Speaker 2: who are our servers today. Fantastic appreciate damn. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: all the fans coming out here in Union, Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: First first time I've been here. So it's nice out here.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Bigs and Rings is absolutely awesome. And is

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Speaker 2: there a more misleading stat in football? Bruce Kazerski than

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Speaker 2: time of possession? The Bengals hauled the ball for nearly

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Speaker 2: forty minutes to twenty, doubling Baltimore's but Baltimore had all

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Speaker 2: the big plays in this game. The Bengals had some

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Speaker 2: great drives. They could not finish, They couldn't get they

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Speaker 2: couldn't convert on third downs. They converted a couple fourth

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Speaker 5: Logically, you got to go into a game plan, any

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals drive to Baltimore's you know, zero zero, drive

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Speaker 4: Yeah, do that?

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Speaker 3: Bengals have the ball at the two minute warning of.

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Speaker 5: You know, we had some big sacks, we had pressure

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to point fingers to any one of

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Speaker 5: sounds like you never know what you're gonna get here,

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Speaker 5: you know, you open it up like a box of chocolates.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's go out through the phones. Do we have

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Speaker 2: Matt in Springfield?

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Speaker 7: I mean, what's going on is always shit?

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Speaker 8: How you doing?

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Speaker 3: Oh good? Man good? What is on your mind?

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Speaker 4: Matt?

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Speaker 9: Oh Man?

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Speaker 7: I mean other than watching the Bengals bungalize another game? Bro,

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Speaker 7: Like they didn't even look like they even wanted to

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Speaker 7: They weren't really, I don't know. This season has been

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Speaker 7: sad how we are wasting Joe Burrow's career. Well, I

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Speaker 7: should say, weave the organization. I mean, think about it.

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Speaker 7: He turns thirty for no year, he didn't turn thirty, right,

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Speaker 7: But I mean how many more? I mean, well, I

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Speaker 7: can't really say anything because I mean, look at Philip Rivers,

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's just.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what to do with this team anymore.

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Speaker 7: I think, honestly though, that there needs to be a

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Speaker 7: nice guy and all, but we need to get a

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Speaker 10: Ran his team.

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Speaker 7: This is what the third season in a row of

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Speaker 4: So correct.

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Speaker 9: I don't know what else to do. I think they

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Speaker 2: How quick and then, Matt, this is how quick an

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Speaker 2: NFL career goes. This is already Joe's sixth season. He's

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Speaker 2: twenty nine years old. They are wasting his talent. We've

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Speaker 2: got to run. Hey, we got to run. I appreciate

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Speaker 11: Kicks there? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 3: Home to the Eagles? What's going on?

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Speaker 11: Absolutely? The homeown Eagles.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say the uh the.

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Speaker 12: What Joe Joe was They were trying to say where

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 3: All right, okay? Do we have Bryce in Cincinnati?

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Speaker 4: My man?

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Speaker 3: Bryce? And Anderson? Hey, Chick, I mean all right, Bryce,

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Speaker 2: You know what? Hang on a second, Bryce, Hang on

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Speaker 2: a second. I'm telling Bruce Kazerski that Bryce, my buddy

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Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati is the next Lance McAllister?

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Speaker 4: Oh is that right? Yes? Nice to be right, Bryce.

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Speaker 11: Well Bruce.

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Speaker 13: Bruce, we've met before that baseball game.

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Speaker 4: Is that who you are?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yes, all right? I think Chickster met you too, didn't he?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 10: He did?

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Speaker 4: All right? All right?

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Speaker 3: Bryce? What's on your mind?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 13: I mean the defense was giving the Bengals opportunities early

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Speaker 13: and just they entered the Baltimore's possession, there's a five

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Speaker 13: times does zero points came out of it? Horrible offense

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Speaker 13: and just pick six during your early red zone trips.

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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, so much.

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Speaker 2: The coverage, well, the coverage was good in the beginning

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Speaker 2: what happened. Yeah, Rashen Ali on a screen pass Toast

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Speaker 2: thirty yards untouched, seven and nothing Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: That's Toast. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The game plan originally was well, it worked, worked well,

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Speaker 5: we went we went right down the field. Timely mistakes, Bryce,

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Speaker 5: You know how that goes you in any in any sports,

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Speaker 5: you're playing a timely mistake. You know, your boot a ball,

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Speaker 5: ground ball, there should be a throwing an out right,

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Speaker 5: it's not, and all of a sudden it's snowballs offense

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Speaker 4: Same thing happened today. They had possis they took a sack.

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Speaker 5: The next time they went down there, they threw that

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Speaker 4: After that, I just I don't think he had enough.

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Speaker 5: Any any receivers really work hard enough to get open

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Speaker 5: if you if you can, if you can look at

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Speaker 5: the way that win when he dropped back to pass

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Speaker 5: all those times it was Jamar, it was Hudson or nobody.

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Speaker 2: And which no Bengals victory is winning going away.

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Speaker 3: Nothing is ever easy.

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Speaker 2: And the yardage oh second, one yard, one yard seemed

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Speaker 5: It is unbelievable when you're when your running backs have

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Speaker 5: gonna win ball games. You know, you appreciate them bailing

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not I'll check what during the next.

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Speaker 5: Break exactly how many yards the received the running backs

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Speaker 5: is Joe having to check down Chase Brown had seven

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Speaker 5: receptions for thirty seven yards. Tyler Hudson had three receptions

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Speaker 5: for sixteen yards, Tinsley one for sixteen. You know sample two.

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Speaker 5: They're they're, they're, they're all All those tight end running

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Speaker 4: And they're just not getting it done.

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Speaker 2: Hey, if we've reached the top of the hour, break,

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Speaker 2: half hour down, two and a half hours to go,

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Speaker 2: five point three, seven, four, nine, seven hundred. The big

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Speaker 2: one are the numbers to dial. I've got my coffee,

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Speaker 2: I've got my computer. Bruce has his soda and his

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Speaker 4: I got it.

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Speaker 3: All we need is.

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Speaker 2: You once again at I've won three seven, four nine

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Speaker 2: seven one eight hundred.

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Speaker 4: The big one.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals get shut out by the Baltimore Ravens the

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Speaker 2: first time since the twoenty seventeen season opener That was

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Speaker 2: twenty enough into Baltimore at pay Course Stadium. This is

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Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW in Cincinnati, ZESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 4: This is where the Orange and Black.

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Speaker 2: Play by for the Dollarine Town.

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Speaker 2: to zern shutout loss to the Baltimore Ravens like a

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Speaker 2: watching the monitors and watching Philip Rivers at.

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Speaker 3: Age forty four. How crazy is that.

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Speaker 2: That this dude is playing.

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Speaker 5: It's amazing And five years out of retirement, he's on

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Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame, and he was on the Hall

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Speaker 5: to come off of because he's back active again. Yes,

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Speaker 5: we hope someday to see Joe play in his thirties.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, Yeah, because right now it's it's questionable. He's

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Speaker 5: getting beaten battered. Today was decent. They had good protection most.

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Speaker 4: Of the night.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, the thing about this whole situation is you

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Speaker 5: they're all going to get old together. And when that happens,

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Speaker 5: it's it's disappointing because you it's an opportunity. Now what happens,

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Speaker 4: You know, that's the question you have with with the staff.

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Speaker 5: with Joe and Jamar and and all those guys like

443
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Speaker 5: to do offensively, or do you force something to happen

444
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 5: defensively because whatever you're doing on that side of the

445
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Speaker 5: ball is not working.

446
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: They're going to have to draft heavy defense and add

447
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Speaker 2: some players in free agency.

448
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Speaker 5: Well, they're gonna have some money back because they're not

449
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 5: gonna worry about paying uh Hendrix. But I don't know

450
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Speaker 5: that that's the best thing either. You lose a great

451
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Speaker 5: pass rusher like that. Now, we've had some really good

452
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Speaker 5: play in the last few weeks out of Osai, and

453
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Speaker 5: today it.

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Speaker 3: Was Miles Murphyles Murphy stepped up.

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Speaker 5: To but is it gonna be consistent? If it's gonna

456
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Speaker 5: be consistent, then we're okay with it.

457
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Speaker 2: Let's go out to the phones. Is Mike and Indiana

458
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Speaker 2: with us?

459
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Speaker 10: Sure?

460
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Speaker 4: How are you all right? Mike?

461
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Speaker 3: What's on your mind?

462
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Speaker 9: A liquid?

463
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Speaker 15: Is that my I got? I was talking to my

464
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 15: buddy Joe from Bridgeton new calls here a lot, and

465
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Speaker 15: we call it every single time. And this is back

466
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 15: in the Super Bowl when they win. Every single time

467
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Speaker 15: that the Bengals need to score to win or to

468
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 15: tie it, Joe Burrow chokes and gets picked off every

469
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Speaker 15: single time. And I guess we've been saying that for

470
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Speaker 15: years and everyone's been saying, oh, that's not true. Joe

471
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 15: Burrows the greatest whatever. But why is it when when

472
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Speaker 15: they lose, like you said earlier today, when you can't

473
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Speaker 15: take a sack in the red zone, a quarterback autoo

474
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Speaker 15: by Now, why isn't anyone ever going to Joe and

475
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Speaker 15: be like, dude, it's not the defense, it's you that's

476
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Speaker 15: losing the games for us.

477
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Speaker 5: Well, I want to go back to the Carson Palmer era.

478
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 5: They were as good offensively as there was in the league.

479
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,959
Speaker 5: They were playing Pittsburgh in the playoff game and Carson

480
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 5: got hit early in that game by a defensive tackle

481
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Speaker 5: that you should play for Cincinnati, yes, and blew is

482
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Speaker 5: acl out and he came back and he had the

483
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Speaker 5: same arm, he had the same reading, he was reading

484
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Speaker 5: the defense of the same but he was not the

485
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Speaker 5: same player, you know, And this is what's gonna happen

486
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Speaker 5: if they don't win ball games on the defensive side

487
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Speaker 5: of the ball. You know, for years when we had

488
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 5: the previous coach, we won games defensively seventeen thirteen or

489
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Speaker 5: fifteen to ten. You know that's not gonna happen with

490
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Speaker 5: this group. We have to outscore everybody, so we have

491
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 5: to go for the jugular on nearly every drive. And

492
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Speaker 5: when you do that, you're putting the guy in the

493
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Speaker 5: position to get beat up. And there's only so much

494
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Speaker 5: physically that the guy could take on before he gets

495
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 5: jittery and nervous feet. You know, I just I'm defending

496
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Speaker 5: the guy because I've seen it happen over and over

497
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Speaker 5: and over.

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Speaker 4: It's a cyclical thing.

499
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Speaker 5: And if they can get him back on track for

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Speaker 5: the start of the next year, finish this year strong,

501
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 5: and start next year and keeping healthy, they got a

502
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Speaker 5: chance to save what you're looking at right now, because

503
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 5: you know, you can't defend the tip balls. The tip

504
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 5: ball that happened today, the tip the screen pass, or

505
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 5: he read that defense perfect. Last week. He threw the

506
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 5: ball we're supposed to throw it. It just didn't get

507
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Speaker 5: it over the guy's head. If you're watching the UH

508
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 5: the Lions Rams game. UH, they Rams did the same

509
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 5: thing and and Hutchinson picked it off, ran seventy seventy

510
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Speaker 5: yards down inside the twenty yard line for the UH

511
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Speaker 5: for the Lions. So that happens to all the great

512
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 5: quarterbacks at some time. These defensive ends are taller and

513
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 5: taller and taller. You have to you have to bridge

514
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Speaker 5: all of that with giving him time to get his

515
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Speaker 5: body healthy again.

516
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Speaker 11: I don't appreciate the call.

517
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Speaker 15: I don't think Yeah, I don't think Ball is gonna

518
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 15: be with Cincinnati in two years. I think he he

519
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 15: made a point to the fans, going, I'm too competitive

520
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 15: for this organization.

521
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Speaker 2: You all ain't winning.

522
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Speaker 15: This defense is not gonna get good for the next

523
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Speaker 15: two years. And I'm not waiting another two years for

524
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Speaker 15: a rebuild. I'm almost thirty. I'm out of here, and

525
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 15: you guys will get.

526
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Speaker 2: And you want.

527
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 15: They cost the money, It doesn't matter you're they're the lowest.

528
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 15: The Cincinnati Bengals are the lowest paid organization in football.

529
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Speaker 15: There's thirty one other quins that can pay better than

530
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Speaker 15: what they're and.

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Speaker 2: So that is incorrect.

532
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Speaker 3: That's incorrect.

533
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: Every team has to pay at least eighty percent of

534
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: the salary cap. So they are at the salary cap.

535
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: So and they're paying their offensive players they.

536
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Speaker 4: Need, they're paying some defensive players.

537
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Speaker 2: They're going to get rid of the the twenty nine

538
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 2: million that we're getting fleeced by Trey Hendrickson four. That's

539
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: going to be off the books. They've got to get

540
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Speaker 2: more defensive players.

541
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Speaker 4: And with that, they lost a couple of good safeties

542
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Speaker 4: two years ago.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right, guys. We appreciate the call. Thank you

544
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Speaker 2: so much. Let's move on. Bob in Houston, Bob.

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Speaker 16: Hey Fellas a first of all, appreciate you guys taking

546
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Speaker 16: my call. Yes, sir a, I'm just kind of curious,

547
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Speaker 16: so when we're really going to have some serious conversation

548
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Speaker 16: about what really need to be discussed, and that's what

549
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 16: the coaching change. Uh you know, it's it's time and

550
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 16: time again. And and chimp, you just mentioned it earlier

551
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Speaker 16: about the time management. I don't I don't know his

552
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Speaker 16: skills as far as making halftime a judgments.

553
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Speaker 4: I guess he is, but uh but it.

554
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Speaker 16: Sure doesn't it sure doesn't show, you know, when they

555
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 16: come out in the second half.

556
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Speaker 4: So well, I don't you know, everybody.

557
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Speaker 16: Everybody talks about what a great guy act is, and

558
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Speaker 16: I agree, you know, a good a good dude, but

559
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 16: you know, hey, it's time to move on this guy's bottoms.

560
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Speaker 16: We're just not getting it done.

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Speaker 3: Bob Is.

562
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Speaker 2: The first half was unfolding today. All I could think

563
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Speaker 2: of is when you think of the AFC North with

564
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Speaker 2: the bad weather in November and December and January, you

565
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 2: think of a physical division, the ability to run the football,

566
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: and it's not in Zach Taylor's religion.

567
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 3: He wants to throw it first.

568
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Speaker 5: We had a one hundred yards rushing today. That is

569
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 5: not a little thing against that defense. It's not a

570
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 5: little thing. But what we're missing is the guys dropping balls,

571
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 5: the guys that you know not making that big block,

572
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 5: or when you have the ball for forty minutes in

573
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 5: the ball game and the opposing quarterback only throws eight completions,

574
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 5: you know, eight out of twelve, Lamar Jackson eight for twelve,

575
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 5: you should not lose twenty four to nothing.

576
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Speaker 2: And last week eight of ten on third down conversions,

577
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: today three of fifteen. They were better on fourth down

578
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: than third down three out of five on fourth down.

579
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Speaker 5: The conversation about the staff you can't come out in

580
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 5: public unless you're ready to make a change.

581
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Speaker 4: In the mid season.

582
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Speaker 5: And the one thing that's not on that staff the

583
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 5: long list of coaches that can be head coached someplace else.

584
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 5: So if you remove Zack now in the middle of

585
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 5: the season, you're shutting down the offense because he's calling

586
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 5: the plays.

587
00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: And who do you turn it over to?

588
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 5: Who has the interim head coach until you make the

589
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 5: decisions the off season? And the Bengals don't do that,

590
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 5: but maybe once in the entire franchise history. And I

591
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 5: can't believe for a second that there hasn't been discussion

592
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 5: at the Brown holiday dinner table about just that.

593
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Speaker 4: Thank you, that's a very good point.

594
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Speaker 16: I just do you think that you might be considered

595
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Speaker 16: in the offseason or are we just going to hang on?

596
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Speaker 5: I think that's an executive decision that that you and

597
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 5: I will not be invited to to to attend. But

598
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 5: I'd be willing to bet that they are having that

599
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 5: discussion on a daily basis. What do we do, What

600
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 5: do we do with this franchise? Where are we going

601
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 5: to take this? They all know we have to get

602
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,239
Speaker 5: help defensively. I guarantee it They're not dummies. They've been

603
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 5: doing football for their entire life. Everybody in that family. Uh,

604
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 5: Duke Tobin maybe on chopping block. You know, if he

605
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 5: doesn't uh for some miracle have a defense as in

606
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 5: the last three weeks, is going to come out of No.

607
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 5: But I think the decisions are already.

608
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Speaker 4: Made, Bob.

609
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: And one of my favorite Mike Brown stories is I

610
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: am in his apartment at Georgetown College during training camp.

611
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: We're discussing Corey Dillon, we're discussing other players.

612
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: The phone rings on the end table.

613
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: He moves, He gets up, picks it up and says, oh, hi, Punky,

614
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: meaning his daughter Chick was just leaving. So that was

615
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 2: my cue to get out of there. So but you're right,

616
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: Bruce is right. We're not going to be invited to

617
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: that conversation, but you know it will get mentioned in

618
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: this offseason, no doubt about it.

619
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Speaker 3: And we appreciate the call. And we've got a break.

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Speaker 2: You are listening to the tri Stage Chevy Dealer's post

621
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Speaker 2: game sports talk. He's Bruce Kazerski, this is Chick Ludwig.

622
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Speaker 2: We're presented by RNL Carriers on seven hundred WLW in

623
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back to the tri Stage

624
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Speaker 2: Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL on seven

625
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Speaker 2: hundred WLW in Cincinnati, ESPN fifteen thirty. He's Bruce Kozerski,

626
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Speaker 2: just Chick Ludwig. Awesome to be with you today, man.

627
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: Twenty four to nothing. The Bengals get smoked at home

628
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: by the Baltimore Ravens and at four and ten, two

629
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Speaker 2: and five at home. Bengals are out of the playoffs

630
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: and gosh, can they even play spoiler because they've got

631
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: Miami next week, got Miami and then the Arizona Cardinals

632
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: at home and then the Cleveland Browns at home.

633
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Speaker 5: No, man, it's uh yeah, it would be low impact games. Yes,

634
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 5: it might be important for guys on this ball club though,

635
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, because guys are playing for their future.

636
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 3: It really is. Yes, they're playing for their jobs.

637
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 4: This is that.

638
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 5: This is the old expression, what do you do when

639
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 5: no one's watching? Because no one's watching in terms of

640
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 5: the playoff race, So the large part of the country

641
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 5: zoned out, But the people in Cincinnati, the organization are

642
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 5: fine tuned on what's happening for every player on that

643
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 5: field right now.

644
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: Every move is every move is being scrutinized absolutely.

645
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: How you carry yourself, how you play, and uh, do

646
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: you want it the desire?

647
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 4: You can't.

648
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 5: You can't be the guy off that jumped off the

649
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 5: train and and quit on this team because that's the

650
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 5: fastest way out of it, not only not only the Bengals,

651
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 5: but out of the NFL.

652
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:20,959
Speaker 4: Correct.

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00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: Yes we uh a line from Jim Lippencott, former personnel

654
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: boss of the Bengals. Uh rings in my ears all

655
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: the time. You don't quit the NFL. The NFL quits you.

656
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 4: Okay.

657
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: And the wide receiver that just got released third round

658
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Speaker 2: draft pick.

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Speaker 3: Last Yes, this was not a flyer.

660
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: This a flyer is Benny Brazil Uh in the seventh round,

661
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: a sprinter on the LSU track team. Okay, that's a flyer.

662
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: This was a third round draft pick. And he's uh,

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Speaker 2: he's gone.

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Speaker 5: I will I will say check that the professional football

665
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 5: is one thing, but the money that these guys make

666
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 5: is another thing. And some of these guys are grown

667
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Speaker 5: men and can handle the responsibility of playing the football

668
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 5: and pocketing the money, and some guys can't. Some guys

669
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Speaker 5: don't deal with they get the money in their pocket

670
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 5: that they're they gotta have too much fun.

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Speaker 4: They gotta they gotta.

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Speaker 5: Go out with their buddies and their they're old chums

673
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 5: from the neighborhood and they got a party with their

674
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 5: college flunkys and and before you know it, their career

675
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 5: is over and they they've just flushed it down the

676
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Speaker 5: toilet by not taking care of their business as a man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jermaine Burton, Uh, if the leaders on this team,

678
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: the Joe Burrows and the T Higgins and Jamar Chase,

679
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: if they couldn't bring him along, then didn't There's.

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Speaker 4: There's no help for him, no hope for him.

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Speaker 5: Especially you know when you are that guy with that

682
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Speaker 5: kind of ability and you've got Jamar Chase and T

683
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 5: Higgins in front of you that have all that have

684
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 5: both been nicked up from time time and the required

685
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 5: to step in as a necess necessity to help the

686
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Speaker 5: offense succeed, and your inability to do it because of

687
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 5: your lack of effort, like a concentration, uh late for everything.

688
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 5: And then you know it's no surprise they got rid

689
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 5: of him. Surprise didn't happen sooner?

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Speaker 3: Do we still have Mike in Los Angeles?

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Speaker 8: Yes, you do.

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Speaker 10: Chick and cause thank you, yes, welcome.

693
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Speaker 9: I appreciate it, chicken, cause it sounds like one of

694
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Speaker 9: those little diamond stores down in the Diamond DisCrit Cup

695
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 9: in New York.

696
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 10: You know, a little little front or something.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: I'm time, yeah, chick and there you go.

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Speaker 17: Kick and cause that's oh yeah, guys. I would like

700
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Speaker 17: to talk about football, but I would prefer not to

701
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 17: speak about the Bengals right now. I think there's more

702
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 17: interesting things to talk about when it comes to the NFL. Okay,

703
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 17: I think the Jags right now, I'm not a big

704
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Speaker 17: Jags fan, but I'm just looking at what's going on,

705
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Speaker 17: and this might be the surprise of the year in

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Speaker 17: the NFL.

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Speaker 5: I think you're right there. They're right there with the Patriots.

708
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 5: Patriots lost today, but they're they're a good team.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 5: I think you're right the Jags and the pay and

711
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 5: the Patriots. And it's kind of like the old guard

712
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 5: is fading. You know, the Kansas City's out this week,

713
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 5: Mahomes got hurt again.

714
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 4: Got hurt this time. Allan is fading.

715
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 5: I mean, their team's wins, but they're down twenty one

716
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 5: points before they start to play.

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Speaker 2: You always.

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Speaker 11: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Club ahead.

719
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 4: Very well quarterback.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I look at the Bills last week and then

721
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 9: uh with the with the way uh Alan brought him

722
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 9: back against our club, and then how he did it

723
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 9: again today. It's like, can you always be just a

724
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Speaker 9: second but you can't successfully win a Super Bowl with

725
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 9: it's just a second half team, can't you?

726
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Speaker 5: Cause no, I don't think. I don't think that you can.

727
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 5: I know that everything averages out. I'm a I'm an

728
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 5: odds kind of guy. An offensive an offensive unit, defensive unit.

729
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Speaker 5: They're gonna have good plays, You're gonna have bad plays.

730
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Speaker 5: It seems like everything Buffalo does is horrible in the

731
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 5: first half and lights out in the second half. And

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Speaker 5: and I don't see how that can continue.

733
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Speaker 4: U But uh you know they're they're thinking they can

734
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Speaker 4: prove it to us.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you're right.

736
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 9: It appears I'm driving their coach absolutely out of his mind.

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Speaker 11: Probably mcdarmott, I would he's driving him.

738
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Speaker 9: But these h That's all I had, Guys, I just

739
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 9: wanted to get your opinions on that. These two games

740
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 9: that are on right now are pretty good. The Rams

741
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 9: in the Denver Bronco's pretty good game. Well, you know,

742
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 9: two different games. But anyway, thank you guys. I appreciate you.

743
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Speaker 2: Appreciate you all right, Mike, and Uh, as you leave

744
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: us here, wanted to let you know that, uh, the

745
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: University of Dayton starguard from way back when Johnny Davis

746
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: was a stud for the Portland Trailblazers. He came back

747
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: to town and he's not only in the Hall of

748
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: Fame University of Dayton's Athletic Hall of Fame, he picked

749
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: up his degree yesterday. So fantastic news. Because Mike always says,

750
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: chick don donnah. Heer from University of Dayton. So uh,

751
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: shout out to Mike there. Hey do we have Mike

752
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: and Cherry Grove?

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Speaker 18: Mike, Hey, how you doing a couple of things real fast?

754
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Speaker 18: I think today's game showed how valuable t Higgins this

755
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 18: is a team, because it seems to me when he's

756
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 18: not playing, the offense.

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00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 11: Just doesn't look as good. I don't know how you

758
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 11: feel about that.

759
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 4: Uh the other.

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00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know it's Mike.

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Speaker 11: Uh so go ahead. I'm sorry.

762
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Speaker 5: It's like having a fork and a knife at the

763
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 5: plate at the table.

764
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 4: You know, you can cut that stake.

765
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,479
Speaker 5: Up with the with the fork if you try real hard.

766
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 5: And that's what that's what Jamarch is trying to do.

767
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 5: He's trying to cut the defense all by himself right now.

768
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Speaker 4: And when you put Niggins in there, now you got

769
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 4: now you got the doing set. You can do whatever

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Speaker 4: you want with them.

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Speaker 5: And that that's that's the toughest, maybe the toughest duo

772
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,959
Speaker 5: in the NFL. And that makes that makes everybody underneath better.

773
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 5: It makes those tight ends better. It makes the room

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Speaker 5: for for Chase the running back better, because right now

775
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 5: there was no room for him today.

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Speaker 11: I agree, Mike a. Secki.

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Speaker 10: Of course he was hurt for a little bit. When

778
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Speaker 10: I watched him.

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00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 18: Play, first second quarter, he's making catches, he's looking great,

780
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Speaker 18: and then all of a sudden, I don't see him going.

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Speaker 11: To him anymore.

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00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 10: And Mike, do you feel that way too?

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00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 4: Well?

784
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: One catch for eleven yards in a sixty minute game.

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00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 4: So he disappeared.

786
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 8: Now.

787
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Speaker 5: Also, what wasn't made me mentioned or noticed was fant

788
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 5: got nicked up early in that game and didn't play.

789
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 5: And Fan and Hudson on the two blocking tight ends.

790
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 5: Fan is a blocking tight end. It's often a good receiver.

791
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 5: And so you lost a lot of the blocking purposes

792
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 5: and in the second's more of the receiving kind of

793
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 5: tight end. So you lose that candle blockhom Skill.

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Speaker 2: Hey Mike, we've got to run. We've reached the we've

795
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: reached the bottom of the hour break. Thank you so

796
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: much for the call. You're listening to the Tri State

797
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: Chevy Dealers Post Game Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers.

798
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: We are at the Wings and Rings and Union Kentucky.

799
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: Bruce Kazerski, Chick Ludwig Till eight thirty tonight on seven

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00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: hundred WLW and Cincinnati ESPN fifteen thirty Welcome back to

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00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented by

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00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 2: RNL Carriers. We're at the Wings and Rings and Union Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: He's Bruce Kazerski, this is Chick Ludwig.

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00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: Bengals fall to the Baltimore Ravens today, twenty four to nothing,

805
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: first time they've been shut out since the twenty seventeen

806
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Speaker 2: opener at home by against the Baltimore Raveni. Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 2: Joe Flatt, Yes, incredible, but I love that bumper music.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The NFL Films. John Facenda, the voice of God, I

810
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Speaker 3: love it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, think about all the games played between that

812
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 5: one and this one, you know, and this offense should

813
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 5: never get shut out.

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00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 4: I don't care.

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Speaker 5: I don't care what defense they're playing, the eighty five Bears,

816
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Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh Steelers from seventy five.

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Speaker 4: There's no way this offense should get shut out.

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00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 5: And so we've heard conversation about on the phone calls

819
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,959
Speaker 5: today about lucking uninspired.

820
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 4: And you know, I watched the game.

821
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 5: I did not see that until until there was seven

822
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 5: eight minutes left to go, and they gave me and

823
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 5: they ran six straight running plays. Now they were down

824
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 5: at that point pretty good at twenty four to nothing,

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00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 5: but you got it still you gotta try to score.

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Speaker 5: It just looks so bad. That's why some of these

827
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 5: games that they haven't they've lost and only get gotten

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00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 5: three points.

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Speaker 4: At least they got three points something.

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Speaker 5: There's pride in there and some that last seven eight

831
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 5: minutes was kind of just laying down.

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Speaker 2: Looking at the miscellaneous statistics report.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens had. Now they only had the ball.

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Speaker 2: Fortes okay to the Bengals forty, but eight plays of

835
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Speaker 2: twenty two plus yards eight plays Bengals two a thirty

836
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: four yard pass to Jamar Chase in a twenty seven

837
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: yard pass to Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 5: Over twenty yards Henry. Henry had a couple of long runs.

840
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 5: The other running back had a couple of long runs.

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00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 5: I think Jamar only ran the ball twice today, but

842
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 5: he had a couple of big first down runs.

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00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 4: They had pressure on him a lot.

844
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Speaker 5: But when you don't defend the run well enough, one

845
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty yards rushing and twenty minutes fifty yards

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00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 5: rushing in twenty minutes is.

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Speaker 3: And only eight pass and only completerday pass? Is that unbelievable?

848
00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, let's go out to the phones. Do

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00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: we still have Jim and Milford?

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00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 4: Am?

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00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 11: I'm here?

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00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: All right?

854
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: What's Jim?

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00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 19: Well, Bengals have ruined my Christmas and they're starting to

856
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 19: ruin like every Sunday.

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00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 11: I'm today.

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00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 19: I took it really hard and just that you. Yeah, well,

859
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 19: it's it's a reality, man. I mean, let's listen to

860
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 19: these teams, La Rams, Seattle Seahawks, Denver Broncos, Dallas Cowboys,

861
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 19: Green Bay Packers. These are organizations that are in it

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00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 19: every year, right, and it comes from the top down.

863
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 19: They have the good front office, they've got good scouting,

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00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 19: they've got good talent, they've got good coaching.

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Speaker 4: This Bengal team man.

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00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: About the Pittsburgh Steelers time. They want to run him

867
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Speaker 2: out of town. And he's never had a losing season.

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00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Cowboys can't win because they keep changing coaches.

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00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 5: With all the talents that they have to keep changing coaches.

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00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 5: So there's nothing stationary, nothing stable. There's no patience in

871
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 5: the organization.

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Speaker 4: Do you hear me?

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00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 19: The Bengals have cancer. They just from from within. You've

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00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 19: got you've got an owner that's cheap, that doesn't go

875
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 19: out and play the free agent market. You've got a

876
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 19: limited front office. You've got Duke Tobin that doesn't know

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Speaker 19: what he's doing.

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00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 4: You've got you.

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00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 19: Know, you've got a staff and Zach Taylor that doesn't

880
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 19: know what they're doing in the draft. You know, you've

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00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 19: got a quarterback that's not happy.

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00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 4: Uh.

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00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 19: You've got receivers that keep.

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Speaker 11: Dropping the ball.

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00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 4: Uh.

886
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 19: You know, you've got name other than Trey Henderson, Name

887
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 19: me one star that's on the defense. They're all they're

888
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 19: all talentless. They're all they're all like Canadian Football League

889
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 19: defensive players just a joke.

890
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: I mean, these are some wild jim These are some wild,

891
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: far reaching accusations, umbrella type statements that are simply not true.

892
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 5: They're not it's it's a it's a statement made out

893
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 5: of the out of the depression.

894
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 4: I get it.

895
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 5: But remember that they're not drafting small college football players.

896
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 5: They're drafting out of Georgia and Alabama and USC and

897
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 5: U C, l A and LSU. They're drafted the all

898
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 5: Americans that from across this country, that that proven they

899
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 5: can play football with the best of them, and something happens,

900
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 5: we get here and other teams make a play.

901
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 4: And we don't. I I am. I'm as frustrated as

902
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 4: you are.

903
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 5: I play for the organization for twelve seasons and it's

904
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 5: it is don right frustrating the heck right now because

905
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 5: they have the talent to win. I was excited to

906
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 5: go to the Super Bowl three or four years ago

907
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 5: when they were there. I thought for sure they'd be

908
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 5: back the next year and the next year and the

909
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 5: next year. I thought we'd win two Super Bowls under

910
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow. I'm just doubting right now whether it's going

911
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 5: to happen without.

912
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: Some kind of change, significant changes or will he become

913
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: a Dan Marine And also went to one Super Bowl

914
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: with two great receivers and Mark Cooper and Mark Clayton. Clayton,

915
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah so, and they got smoked by the forty nine

916
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: Ers in Stanford Stadium back in nineteen eighty four.

917
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 5: There have been a lot of quarterbacks that get there

918
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 5: and never win one, right, you know, Buffalo Jim Kelly,

919
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 5: they were oer for four four years in air own lost.

920
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 4: Is that incredible? That's incredible you think about that? Yeah,

921
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 4: just terrible.

922
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 5: It's there's a lot of a lot of great players

923
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 5: and for some reason something's missed. I don't know what

924
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 5: it is. You just you just think that one of

925
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 5: these days they're going to get it right. Three cracks

926
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 5: at the super Bowl, two at the forty nine Ers,

927
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 5: one at the Rams, and they've both escaped late in

928
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 5: the game. They were all great games. All three of

929
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 5: them were great games.

930
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate the call. Let's go to Is it

931
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: Jerry in Indiana? That sounds like a salty from the

932
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: music man?

933
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, I'm not gonna Gary and Madison, Gary and

934
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 5: Matt Maddison.

935
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 12: Okay, all right, well you know, uh I heard something

936
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 12: the other day. And we've had problems with offensive line,

937
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 12: uh and letting us down ato at crucial times. So

938
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 12: and you know, calls in induries to Joe Burrow and

939
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 12: stuff like that, we have got to answer right there

940
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 12: in Cincinnati.

941
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 11: That's the worst part about it all. All we have

942
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 11: to do is go over to UC bearcass.

943
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 12: They've got the best offensive line evidently in the nation.

944
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 11: But calls.

945
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 12: They've only allowed one quarterback sack this past year.

946
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 3: They allowed the country they allowed more.

947
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 2: They had some great stretches where they protected Brendan Soresby. Yeah,

948
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: he got sacked a few times in the last game

949
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: here at TCU. But anyway, speaking of the offensive line.

950
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 12: They were number one in the country allowed sacks a different.

951
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: Level game or not, but you know, different level at

952
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: the same time. But I'm glad you brought up the

953
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 2: offensive line. I think it's is playing better. What hurt

954
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: today is you get to the two yard line and

955
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: he's good for this at least once every game, Orlando

956
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 2: Brown with the.

957
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 5: I think there's multiple players plays during the game when

958
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 5: he does it. And he you know, he's a great guy,

959
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 5: a very talented man, but he does leave early. Multiple

960
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 5: times again, and they call it at the most inopportune times.

961
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 4: That's right.

962
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 5: You know they could call it. There was a right

963
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 5: tackle for Oh, I'm not Kansas City who did it

964
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 5: every snap and they very seldom ever called it. Yeah right,

965
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 5: they called it on on Orlando at the most inopportune times.

966
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, at the two yard line. It got shoved back

967
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 3: to the seven.

968
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: And what happened a pick six that went uh yeah,

969
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 2: van Ney got the interception and then gave the ball

970
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: to Gilman.

971
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 4: You run that far. I'm not running that far. You

972
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 4: go that far?

973
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: A low tie a loohi Gilman and h he went

974
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: to distance and that was the game.

975
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 4: That's right.

976
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: So but yeah, the.

977
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: Or Or lining up Osai with his helmet across the line,

978
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: you know he's yeah, check with the ref. Hey am

979
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: I all right, No, you're over Okay, I'll back up.

980
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 5: It's they want the advantage on every snap and and

981
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 5: they get as much of the ball as they can,

982
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 5: and again inopportune time to do that. And he was

983
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 5: clearly over the line. I saw that, and I called

984
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 5: it before before they even threw the flag. I'm watching

985
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 5: against he's off side.

986
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 3: Watch Hey do we have Steve and Indian Hill.

987
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 10: Hello, hello Steve, Hey, uh, I would like to ask you,

988
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 10: as experts, maybe you Bruce, to list the last three

989
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 10: worst losses that the Bengals. You know, it seems like

990
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 10: week after week this is we lost the Jets.

991
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 6: But your opinion.

992
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 4: Is this one of the worst or.

993
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 11: Where are you?

994
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 5: The Jets, the Bears, and now this one all three

995
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 5: but the big at the wrong time of the year.

996
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: But the biggest blowout in Bengals history came against Minnesota.

997
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this is.

998
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 2: Because the largest spread and it happened four times and

999
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: said club history before that game thirty seven points.

1000
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 5: I thought I was referring to crushing blows, but yeah,

1001
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 5: crushing blows this one, this one eliminates you. But really

1002
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 5: you can go back to the Jets and the Bears

1003
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 5: to look at the elimination. You know, there was there

1004
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 5: was two winnable games and and uh, they didn't play

1005
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 5: well enough to win those two games. And right then,

1006
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 5: you know, it's a different, different season if they win

1007
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 5: those two games.

1008
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 2: To have Joe Flacco bring that club back against them

1009
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 2: over and over and over with less than a minute

1010
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: to go, and you can't stop Colston Loveland on that

1011
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 2: lengthy touchdown pass in the midfield and then Garrett House

1012
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: to the house. Yeah, it's scary, just how bad that

1013
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 2: we played in those games. I forget the earlier caller

1014
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: who said, you know, the depression, the depression, and I

1015
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 2: when I try to go to sleep at night, I

1016
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 2: think of some of these plays that just kill you,

1017
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: and uh, oh.

1018
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 4: Man, just uh it hurts, it really does.

1019
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: Is a Bengal fan and I've been following the here

1020
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: it's nineteen sixty eight.

1021
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 6: You know, Uh, it seems like this is the worst

1022
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 6: loss ever week after week after week. But here's what

1023
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 6: I wanted to say. We all still love them.

1024
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, we love the Bengals.

1025
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 5: Love the Bengals. Are you're one hundred percent correct? I'm

1026
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 5: a I'm a I'm a die hard. I'll never not

1027
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 5: be a Bengals fan. I think there's just it's frustrating

1028
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 5: because the week is so good when they win. You

1029
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 5: go to you go to work on Monday and you're

1030
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 5: standing with the with the work coworkers at the mountain,

1031
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 5: at the water fountain, in a coffee pot and just

1032
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 5: talking about how to play a well they played it.

1033
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 4: It makes the week go so much faster.

1034
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 5: And that's the bad part about it, is the whole

1035
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 5: city is and the whole region is invested in this

1036
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 5: club being successful, and kind of especially this time of

1037
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 5: the season when winter comes along, it's kind of depressing

1038
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 5: time with you anyway, with the trees and all that.

1039
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 5: But you kind of rely on them to lift their

1040
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 5: spirits every week, and so we get we get lifted

1041
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 5: up when they score and then then they give it

1042
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 5: right back. I said, you know, it's a charitable thing.

1043
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1044
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Oh, Steve, appreciate the call man. Thank you so much. Hey,

1045
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 2: you're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealer's postgame Sports

1046
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: Talk presented by RNEL Carriers. He's Bruce Kezerski. This is

1047
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 2: Chick Ludwig. We are live at the Wings and Rings

1048
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: in Union, Kentucky eighty nine eighty seven US forty two

1049
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: until eight thirty tonight. Give us a call at five one, three,

1050
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: seven four, nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the Big

1051
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Speaker 2: One on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty

1052
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: even Day drop. Welcome back to the Try State Chevy

1053
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 2: Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. Chick Ludwig

1054
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 2: alongside Bruce Kazerski.

1055
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: We are live and the.

1056
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: Wings and rings in Union, Kentucky eighty nine eighty seven

1057
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: US forty two until late thirty tonight. And Bruce, I

1058
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: am on the philip Rivers. Watch here, forty four year

1059
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: old grandpa.

1060
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 4: Everybody sit down. Everybody's sitting down when he says this.

1061
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 4: That's right.

1062
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 2: Sixteen of twenty three passing for one hundred and one yards.

1063
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: That's an average of four point four yards per good handoff. Yes,

1064
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: one touchdown, no interception, one sack. Passer rating of ninety

1065
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 2: two point eight. And the Colts have a thirteen to

1066
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 2: twelve lead over the Seattle Seahawks with eight oh nine

1067
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: to go.

1068
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 4: And they're running the clock and killing the call.

1069
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 3: They're trying, man, and this.

1070
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 4: Can hold on Navy. This was on.

1071
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 5: But the old man, he just had a bad snap.

1072
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 5: I was watching the ball. I was a high snap

1073
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 5: and he had a choke. He got he got crushed.

1074
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 5: Oh I felt that well.

1075
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: And we saw him on the sidelines and he's moving

1076
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: his arm and and Bruce goes those banjo strings.

1077
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 4: They're not they're not what they used.

1078
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 3: To be exactly right. Hey, let's go out to the phone.

1079
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: Scott is in Blanchester home with the Wildcats.

1080
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 3: Scott, how are you yeah that y'all does fantastic?

1081
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 11: Great.

1082
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 20: I'm gonna try to put a little serotonin in everybody's mind.

1083
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 20: I'm gonna ask you guys the question. There there was

1084
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 20: a guy or a player, and he played for many NFL.

1085
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 11: Season as a quarterback, just like Joe.

1086
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 20: It almost sounds reminiscent.

1087
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 11: Of his career.

1088
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 20: But I watched this man try try after try, season

1089
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 20: after season, and finally and I think that that one

1090
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 20: game that he finally went to the Super Bowl, he

1091
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 20: finally won it. Can you name that man.

1092
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 4: Stanford?

1093
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 20: Because he was I mean, and and Devers different. Almost

1094
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 20: let me give you.

1095
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 10: Lifetime because this man, this man.

1096
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 20: Tried harder every single time, and it's like he always

1097
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 20: came up shorter. It's almost like the same situation that

1098
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 20: we're going through. But the moral of the story is

1099
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 20: get backed up, keep trying, and you'll get and you'll

1100
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 20: get it.

1101
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 8: You know.

1102
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 20: It's like you know that mister John Elway.

1103
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they got blown out a couple of times. Yeah,

1104
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: And I was thinking of Jim Pluckett. Jim, Yeah, you

1105
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: should win a super Bowl with the radar Ya.

1106
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 20: It was single time. Yeah, he's rifle one down the

1107
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 20: mid second and then finally get and all of a

1108
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 20: sudden horror shows his ugly face and then all of

1109
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:54,959
Speaker 20: a sudden ever.

1110
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 5: You know, we'll put them and you know we'll put

1111
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,959
Speaker 5: them over the top. Well, put them over the top.

1112
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 5: As good as John Elway was. It was their running game.

1113
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 5: Thrill Davis. Yes, they run the ball on anybody. That

1114
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 5: makes your quarterback that much more effective.

1115
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 4: When we get to that point, yeah, I said, we.

1116
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 5: Get to that point, then we'll then we'll be able

1117
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 5: to say, okay, Joe, now now take us to the rest.

1118
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 4: Of the way, right.

1119
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 20: You know, it's kind of funny you hear all the announcers.

1120
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 20: I have to, you know, turn the mute off because

1121
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 20: you know, these guys just it seems like you're on

1122
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 20: the other team. That's almost like we're it's the punching

1123
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 20: pack of the NFL. And I can't stand it, you know,

1124
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 20: but you know, it seems like we know we gotta

1125
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 20: do we got we know, we just gotta keep on

1126
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 20: pushing forward. And I'm I'm that just what rang in

1127
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 20: my head as far as like, guys, you gotta keep trying.

1128
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 20: You gotta keep going, that's all.

1129
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

1130
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 5: The one thing you don't want to be in all

1131
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 5: the sports is a team that the Harlem gold Tars

1132
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 5: play against.

1133
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You don't want to be

1134
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,479
Speaker 4: that group. Yeah, yeah.

1135
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 5: You want to be the team that the challenges every week. Yeah,

1136
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 5: and this team can still challenge. You can see. You

1137
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 5: can see three great performances the last three weeks in

1138
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 5: the season. And it won't mean much to to the

1139
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 5: to the to the organization, to the league league wide,

1140
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 5: but it'll mean a lot to the to the players,

1141
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 5: it will mean a lot to the fans, and it

1142
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 5: will mean a lot to the to the management that

1143
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 5: has to pay these guys and five.

1144
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 4: Players for next year.

1145
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 6: Year.

1146
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 4: We're valuabating now.

1147
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate the call. Thank you very much. Do

1148
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: we have Jonathan and Dayton?

1149
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 11: Yeah? Hey, Chick, thanks for everything you do.

1150
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 4: Brother.

1151
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 11: I appreciate you always being the fan base, just giving

1152
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 11: us a place.

1153
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 4: Of vent tonight.

1154
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 14: Tonight, my I have got a little anger, okay, but

1155
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 14: it's not geared towards Zach Taylor.

1156
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 11: It's non geared towards the players. I think they all

1157
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 11: did there.

1158
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 14: They they played as hard as they can. They didn't

1159
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 14: have it today. But as a fan, I'm a customer

1160
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 14: and I want to talk about my customer experience at

1161
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 14: the game today. And it started like this. I came

1162
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 14: from Dayton, Ohio. You know, you know a thing or

1163
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 14: two about Dayton, Ohio.

1164
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 11: The whole drive down that roads covered and ice.

1165
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 14: Took us about an hour and forty five minutes to

1166
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 14: get there, no problem. But when I get to the

1167
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 14: stadium at the National Anthem, I got to wait an

1168
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 14: hour to get through because there's only two gates open,

1169
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 14: and I don't even get into the second quarter. And

1170
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 14: then I get to my seat and it's covered in snow.

1171
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 14: And then I see people in hot chocolate, and I said,

1172
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 14: I'll go to concessions, but my section's concession area isn't

1173
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 14: even open. It opens my eyes that this ownership has

1174
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 14: a serious problem with doing the bare minimum.

1175
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 11: You see it on the team, like we got the quarterback,

1176
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 11: but the offensive.

1177
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 14: Line's always one guy missed, and that makes the whole

1178
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 14: thing a unit. That's just like the snow still being

1179
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 14: on the seats, Like we got the stadium, but we

1180
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 14: don't take care of the little things to make it complete.

1181
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 14: And I'm telling you today was like the final straw

1182
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 14: from me. I saw it from a customer perspective. I

1183
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 14: was like, they don't do the little things, and I'm

1184
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 14: angered by that. It's like, and they want us to

1185
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 14: blame Zach, they want us to blame they want us

1186
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 14: to blame Burrow, and it's like, you gotta do the

1187
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 14: little things, and they just that's why they get a

1188
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 14: bad rap, that's why people make fun of us. That

1189
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 14: they're not making fun of us, they're not making fun

1190
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 14: of the city. They're talking about the ownership. And it's

1191
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 14: time that we just we started saying, you know, enough

1192
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 14: of enough man, enough is enough, Like treat us right,

1193
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 14: build a team that we deserve. Lord knows, this city's

1194
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 14: given them all the tax now as they want. It's

1195
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 14: time to step up to the plate and don't have

1196
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 14: scapegoats that we say, oh, go fire Zach Taylor. Now

1197
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 14: give him proper coaching, give him proper scouting. I feel

1198
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 14: like I'm just preaching at this point. But the Cotonomer perspective.

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Speaker 2: That's what this is for John, Hey, absolutely, this is

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01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 2: the place event we've got to take a break. Well,

1201
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: we can address this when we come Back. It's the

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Speaker 3: We're breaking down.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals twenty four to nothing shutout loss to the

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Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens today that finally knocked the Bengals out of

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Speaker 3: And it has to be Jamar Chase the.

1242
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 4: Only thing in town, that's right.

1243
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 2: He caught two balls, the two longest plays of the

1244
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 2: day for the Bengals, a thirty four yarder from Joe

1245
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: Burrow in the third quarter.

1246
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 3: In a and in the fourth quarter a twenty seven year.

1247
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 2: And really both you know, at Baltimore's thirty eight yard

1248
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 2: line for thirty four yards, the other one at Baltimore's

1249
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 2: forty five for twenty seven yards. The Bengals moved the

1250
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 2: ball between the basically between the twenties.

1251
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 4: Could not score. Unstoppable guy.

1252
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 5: They got in that red zone and it was like

1253
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 5: Kryptonite stepped across the line and they just.

1254
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 3: Get her a wall like the thirty yard line. They

1255
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 3: just could not.

1256
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 4: And didn't know. That's why they called the red zone.

1257
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 5: Every defense has they let you get there, and more

1258
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 5: than they tighten it down because you're getting that shortened field.

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1262
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 2: gone over this before, Bruce. But to get to the

1263
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: twenty five yard line, no score. They're driving and then

1264
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: a sack on third and four, way back like at

1265
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,959
Speaker 2: the forty two yard line, forcing a punt. They get

1266
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: the ball back, they drive to the Ravens twenty nine

1267
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 2: yard line. Then it passed over the middle and it

1268
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase didn't quite times jump right and it ticked

1269
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: off the top of his hands right and you.

1270
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 5: Can see him, you can see him turn his head up.

1271
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 5: Feel just to split second early and on n cole Weather,

1272
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 5: they like that. You got to grab that ball and

1273
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 5: hold hold on with for your life because it's slick.

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Speaker 5: It's very slick.

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Speaker 2: We saw a drop that would have been a thirty

1276
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 2: yard game by andre Yusavasha. Yeah, and another one in

1277
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: the end zone by what really was Mitchell Tinsley could

1278
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 2: not bring the ball in and then on the next play.

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Speaker 4: Boom, Yeah, pick six.

1280
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 3: So it's it's that quick.

1281
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 4: Just it's just like a buffalo.

1282
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, one mistake and it's going the other way.

1283
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Speaker 2: You know.

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 5: They you to never give up defense. We never give

1285
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 5: up on the ball carrier. If you can tackle them

1286
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 5: at the one, you give us another chance to stop them.

1287
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 5: And that's kind of what happened today. We had the opportunity.

1288
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 5: They never gave up. They got the ball out, had

1289
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,919
Speaker 5: a chance and broke our back.

1290
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Speaker 4: Yes it did. Hey, let's go out to the phones.

1291
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Speaker 4: We have Steve and Sharonville.

1292
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 21: And hey, guys, how you doing.

1293
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Speaker 4: We're there.

1294
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 21: Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, check out. I think you're the

1295
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Speaker 21: best guy on talk radio in Cincinnati. I mean that sincerely.

1296
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 21: I wish you were on more often.

1297
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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that, and I'm staying in my lane.

1298
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Speaker 2: I enjoy what I do. I'm kind of that glue

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Speaker 2: on within.

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Speaker 4: I just gave him knuckles just so you know that's right, man.

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Speaker 21: But yeah, well you're good. Anyway. I'd like to make

1302
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 21: two comments, and I could either hang up and hey,

1303
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 21: have you comment, or if you want to dis go,

1304
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 21: so whatever you want to do. The first comment I

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Speaker 21: like to make is yeah, to translate what Burrow said

1306
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 21: the other day in his press conference, and basically what

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01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 21: he was saying is, uh, Mike and Katie, if you

1308
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 21: don't fire Zach, you don't fire Duke, and you don't

1309
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 21: bring chef up your scouting department and bring some good

1310
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 21: confident people in here asap like yesterday. Uh, I'm going

1311
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 21: to demand a trade. I mean we're gonna we're looking

1312
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 21: at Carson Palmer two point zero. In my opinion, I

1313
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 21: think Joe's fed up, and you know, he knows that

1314
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 21: he shouldn't be putting up with this, and then he'd

1315
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Speaker 21: be thriving somewhere else. So that's the first comment. The

1316
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Speaker 21: second comment I want to make is I honestly feel

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Speaker 21: that both the fans and the media in this town

1318
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 21: are responsible partly for allowing the Bengals to get away

1319
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 21: with this mediocrity year after year. And when people say, well,

1320
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 21: I'm gonna support the Bengals no matter what and all,

1321
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 21: they basically that just tells the Brown family that they

1322
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 21: don't have to change anything. People are still going to

1323
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 21: support us. So I just think in either Philadelphia or

1324
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 21: New York or other cities wouldn't put up with this,

1325
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 21: neither the media or the fans. I just think the

1326
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 21: media is too soft and the fans are too accepting.

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01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,959
Speaker 21: That's just my opinion. If you want to discuss, fine,

1328
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 21: or if you want me to hang up, whatever.

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01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 5: You want to do, I'll make one comment. I'll just

1330
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 5: say Cleveland Browns. You know you want to talk about

1331
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 5: a loyal fan base, the Cleveland Browns, or how about

1332
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 5: the Boston Red Sox for fifty years. You know, the

1333
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 5: fan base gets loyal because they love going to the ballpark,

1334
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 5: they love the scenery, running those players running around town.

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01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 4: I get it, man, it's a ton of money.

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01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 5: It's more money than it's ever ever been, and it's

1337
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 5: killing pocketbooks and Christmas vacations. It's killing Christmas presents because

1338
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 5: they're losing. But let's not jump off the brug. This

1339
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 5: organization has been around a long time. There's enough people

1340
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 5: that care about it. I think there's twenty thousand people

1341
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 5: still on the wait list to get tickets. So you know,

1342
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 5: I don't I don't buy anything. Like I said, I'm

1343
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 5: a lifer for for good. I don't go to a

1344
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 5: lot of games. I just I'm too busy with other

1345
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 5: things in my life. But I do watch every game

1346
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 5: on television, every one of them, and and uh I

1347
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 5: wish them the best on every on every given Sundays too.

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01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,759
Speaker 21: But there's there's too much media. I mean, look at

1349
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 21: Marvel Lewis, how many years he was here. Look how

1350
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 21: long it took him to fire Dave Shula. I mean,

1351
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 21: this organization, the front office is just not competent and

1352
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 21: that ends up with results. Like you see today on

1353
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 21: the field. That's just my opinion. I just think that

1354
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 21: I think the media should be tougher on the on

1355
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 21: the front office. I think the fans should be tough

1356
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 21: tougher on the front office. And I think it's that

1357
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 21: if both those things happen, you see things change around here.

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01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 4: There's something to be that for that.

1359
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 5: But this again, having been in the organization, I know

1360
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 5: that they are family people and and they hate to

1361
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 5: and you look at this way, it's it's no longer

1362
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 5: it's such an expensive sport anymore. But they those people,

1363
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 5: the coaches, they become family.

1364
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 4: You know.

1365
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 5: It's hard to kick a family that are out and

1366
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 5: and maybe it's easy for Jerry Jones, it's not so

1367
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 5: easy for the Browns. They're they're loyalists and they want

1368
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 5: to give you every opportunity.

1369
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 4: But I think I think that.

1370
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 5: Zach is losing the locker room, and I think something

1371
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 5: drastic hast to change, and maybe Duke Tobin is the

1372
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 5: start of it.

1373
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 3: The other times.

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Speaker 21: Have a nice evening, guys.

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01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 3: All right, appreciate it.

1376
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 2: The national media made it sound like Joe Burrow exactly

1377
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 2: what he said. I just listened to Dan Horde talk

1378
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,719
Speaker 2: with Scott Sloan. He had a total, totally different opinion

1379
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 2: of it that yes, he's frustrated, no one in that

1380
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: building is happy, but.

1381
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 3: Demand a trade.

1382
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: Come on, He's making an average of fifty five million

1383
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 2: dollars through twenty twenty nine.

1384
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 5: His buddy Jamar's here. T Higgins is here. Yes, his weapons.

1385
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 5: Part of the part of the reason he's as good

1386
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 5: as he is is because of his weapons, you know,

1387
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 5: without without t to a you see how average he

1388
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 5: can look at times. Again, the cold weather affected everybody.

1389
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 5: I don't want to take that. But again, who had

1390
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 5: more to win to who had more to gain today

1391
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 5: in that game than than than the Ravens did. The

1392
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 5: Ravens are the Bengals, you know, it's hard, hard to

1393
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 5: stay focused.

1394
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 2: And the Ravens got the revenge from Thanksgiving night in Baltimore.

1395
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: So Bengals beat them there. Then they had they had

1396
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 2: fun with the turkey that night on the sidelines.

1397
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 4: And they haven't won. I don't. They haven't won since.

1398
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 5: No, it's a it's it's a it's getting hard to watch.

1399
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,759
Speaker 5: But again it's the Bengals.

1400
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 4: Man.

1401
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 5: You got you gotta, you gotta, you gotta love watching

1402
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 5: the Bengals, and you pray for them to make the

1403
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 5: right play, and when they do, you're excited about it.

1404
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 4: And when they don't, it's like, oh, here we go.

1405
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 4: You know, that's it.

1406
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 2: And cos let's a highlight the drive of the game.

1407
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 2: And it's brought to you by the BMW Store. There

1408
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 2: are over three hundred and fifty BMW centers in the

1409
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 2: United States, but there's only one store, the BMW Store

1410
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 2: where Passion Loves Company.

1411
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 4: We could pick it.

1412
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 2: The Bengals did not score, So what is the drive

1413
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: of the game. Okay, their best opportunity to score was late.

1414
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,759
Speaker 3: They drive to the two yard line, five yard penalty.

1415
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 2: Then you get a five yard penalty on Orlando Brown

1416
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 2: you know jumping' you know, illegal procedure, a drop in

1417
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 2: the end zone by Mitchell Tinsley, and then a pick

1418
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 2: six that went ninety.

1419
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:55,520
Speaker 4: Plus yards snowball.

1420
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 2: Yes, So in the in their first drive to the

1421
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 2: twenty five yard.

1422
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 5: Line, you can't go with the one where they ran

1423
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 5: it back for a touchdown because that's that's a drive

1424
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,560
Speaker 5: of game for them allanst it. It has to be

1425
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 5: in the game early in the game when we had

1426
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 5: you know, we were playing had a chance to score

1427
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 5: was right there.

1428
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 2: And the first drive to the twenty five yard line,

1429
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 2: god man, yes, and then took a sack at the

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01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 2: forty two.

1431
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 5: And you're kicking a brick on a day like today,

1432
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 5: so you can't make a it's hard to make a

1433
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 5: record centing vehicle.

1434
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 2: That is the drive of the game. The first drive

1435
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 2: to the Bengals forty two. Now to the or to

1436
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 2: the Ravens twenty five yard line.

1437
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 3: The sack took it back to the forty two. They

1438
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 3: had to punt.

1439
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 4: So wow.

1440
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 2: They're over three hundred and fifty BMWs centers in the

1441
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 2: United States, but there's only one store, the BMW Store

1442
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 2: where Passion Loves Company. And we are late for a break.

1443
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 2: He's Bruce Kezerski. This is Chick Ludwig. We're live at

1444
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 2: Wings and Rings in Union, Kentucky eighty nine eighty seven

1445
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 2: US forty two and you're listening to the Tri State

1446
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 2: Chevy Dealers postgame sports Talk presented by RNL carriers on

1447
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen seven, twenty five

1448
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 2: in the Queens City of Cincinnati. This is Chick Ludwig

1449
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 2: alongside Bruce Kazerski. We are live at the Wings and

1450
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 2: Rings in Union, Kentucky eighty nine eighty seven US forty two,

1451
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,799
Speaker 2: and you are listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers

1452
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 2: postgame sports talk sented by RNL carriers. And if you

1453
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 2: don't know by now, the Baltimore Ravens shut out the

1454
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 2: Bengals today, twenty four to nothing, sending their record to

1455
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 2: seven and seven. They're still in the hunt for the

1456
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 2: AFC North title with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Bengals season ooh

1457
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 2: four and ten over with three games to go, four

1458
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: and ten, two and five at home. Very frustrating that

1459
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 2: they cannot protect pay Court Stadium.

1460
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 3: And let's go out to the phones.

1461
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 2: Welcome in our good friend John and Cedarville home of

1462
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:21,440
Speaker 2: the Indians. Hi, John Hey, Jack Hey, John Hey.

1463
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 22: Officially eliminated from the playoffs officially. Does that mean no

1464
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 22: Lombardi this year?

1465
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 4: Correct? No Lombardy. Somebody in Cincinnati.

1466
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 22: I was hoping we should get that Lombardi and maybe

1467
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 22: Bengal Nation lobby the commissioner to get the name of

1468
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,839
Speaker 22: the trophy change to the Gulf of Paul Brown.

1469
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 4: Oh.

1470
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 2: Speaking of that, speaking of that, here's no name for

1471
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 2: the coach of the year, and it should be the

1472
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,799
Speaker 2: Paul Brown Coach of the Year. He is the number

1473
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 2: one ESPN's like top one hundred, you know, game changers.

1474
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 3: He is number one in terms.

1475
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 4: Of the evolution football.

1476
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 9: I mean, he's the teacher. He's the teacher.

1477
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 10: You don't meet the teacher.

1478
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 9: And that's what the.

1479
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 22: Man aster of the Cincinnati Bengals. They're all winners, fifty

1480
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 22: three winners, but you got to go out each and

1481
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 22: every play of every game and you've got to prove it.

1482
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, this this game is not about the right.

1483
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 4: It's about the four that you did wrong, you know.

1484
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 22: I mean, we did not see that today. And as

1485
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 22: far as the scouting goes in the draft, just like

1486
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 22: you guys are speaking on earlier, they get blue chippers.

1487
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 22: There's blue chippers out there and this team knows how

1488
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 22: to draft them. And it wouldn't bother me one bit

1489
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 22: if they took an Ohio State Bucket or Indiana Hoosier

1490
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,719
Speaker 22: with every single one of their picks.

1491
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 3: I don't care.

1492
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 22: And that's all I got in Happy holidays, guys.

1493
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 2: The Ohio State might have six first round draft picks

1494
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 2: on their of their top twenty two.

1495
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 4: Very very deserving. Indiana's got quite a few they as well.

1496
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 5: They had an amazing season and it's not over for

1497
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 5: either one of them.

1498
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:19,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1499
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1500
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 2: And we talked about Joe Walter Bengal legend, Texas Tech

1501
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 2: Red Raiders.

1502
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:29,759
Speaker 3: Many fast, they are physical, they're.

1503
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 5: Gonna be They're gonna be a real serious contender as

1504
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 5: this thing plays out.

1505
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 2: Next Saturday, the twentieth man, Well, there's a game Friday

1506
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 2: night in Oklahoma and Alabama.

1507
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 4: Another that should be a good game. I don't know

1508
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 4: either one is gonna compete.

1509
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 3: And then a triple header on Saturday.

1510
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 2: I'll be in the seven hundred WLW studios, we'll be

1511
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 2: talking about it. But you know you're right about the

1512
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 2: four plays. What if Jamar Chase makes that catch on

1513
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 2: a slant, it's right in Chase his hands and he dropped, Okay, refuse.

1514
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 2: Savash makes that catch they should have made that he

1515
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 2: should have made, and Tenseley makes the catch correct, So.

1516
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 3: And Joe doesn't throw the pick sick.

1517
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 5: Well, that's the problem with the pass game as being

1518
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 5: everything that you do.

1519
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 4: The running game is.

1520
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 5: So critical because you hand it off to one guy,

1521
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 5: but ten other guys have to do their job.

1522
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 4: To the best of their ability.

1523
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we had one hundred yards rushing today,

1524
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 5: which if we would have looked at hundred yards rushing

1525
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 5: the first five or six games of the season, we

1526
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 5: would said, wow, who were they? You know, when you're

1527
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 5: averaging one point two or one point four yards of

1528
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 5: carry early in the season. Now we get one hundred

1529
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 5: yards per game. But when you are limited how far

1530
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 5: and how he's hard is for you to run the game,

1531
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 5: run the ball. That passing game is critical. And now

1532
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 5: now three things have to pass, and we have to

1533
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 5: happen when you throw it. Somebody has to throw it,

1534
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 5: somebody has to catch it. Someone has to not fumble

1535
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 5: it when they get the ball.

1536
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 2: And that's why Woody Hayes said, things happened when you pass.

1537
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 2: Two of them are bad, bad, and really three of

1538
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 2: them are bad. You can't catch it, you can fumble it,

1539
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: and this it can get intercepted.

1540
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 5: And the weather is so important to the passing game.

1541
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 5: Rainy days, cold freezing days like today, it changes the

1542
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 5: dynamics of all the passing game when it's the weather

1543
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 5: is so bad.

1544
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 2: Isn't it crazy to be sitting here and critiquing and

1545
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 2: really and criticizing guys playing in minus one degree winship.

1546
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 2: It is severe, it's brutal, But hats off, we've reached

1547
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour break. But hats really, hats

1548
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 2: off to the Baltimore Ravens. They came out, they were hungry.

1549
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,719
Speaker 2: They got after it. They really did. And you're listening

1550
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 2: to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented

1551
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 2: by RNL carriers live from the Wings and Rings in Union, Kentucky.

1552
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 3: He's Bruce Kezerski.

1553
01:18:52,880 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 2: This is Chick Ludwig seven hundred WLW and ESPN fifteen thirty.

1554
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 2: You are listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers post

1555
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 2: game Sports Talk presented by RNL carriers. Folks should have

1556
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 2: heard us talking off air. We went back to Plan

1557
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 2: B free agency. We were talking offensive lineman.

1558
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 5: Greats, some greats, Max Mntoya, Max Monttoy, back when Bible Trumpy.

1559
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 2: Plan B free agency. If anybody remembers that was eventually outlawed.

1560
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the system was illegal to begin with.

1561
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 8: It was.

1562
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 4: It was illegal.

1563
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 2: Teams protected a number of players, and what they did

1564
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 2: was to protect more players. They would agree with the

1565
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 2: with the the team would agree with the player. Hey

1566
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,839
Speaker 2: a handshake to come back, maybe get a little bonus, yep.

1567
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 3: Well yeah.

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01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 2: Max Montoya originally told Mike Brown, Okay, yeah, I will

1569
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 2: come back, so they didn't put him on the Plan

1570
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 2: B list. But when Al Davis offers you a two

1571
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 2: year deal double your salary, you can't.

1572
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 3: Turn that down until you've jumped to the Raiders.

1573
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 5: The big example that everybody talked about when that happened

1574
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 5: was Jojacobe was the highest paid left tackle in football

1575
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 5: and the Redskins gave him one hundred thousand dollars bonus

1576
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 5: to stick around.

1577
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 4: Yes, so he told everybody no.

1578
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,799
Speaker 5: But Max was undervalued because of where he was playing,

1579
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 5: and he got a little bonus to say no, not

1580
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 5: nearly what Jojacobe got. And in the Pro Bowl, playing

1581
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 5: in the Pro Bowl, and he met Al Davis and

1582
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 5: Al said, gave him this contract.

1583
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 4: He said, yes, I'm going to sign that.

1584
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 5: And then he called and told the Bengals and they

1585
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 5: kept his Pro Bowl bonus, but he already had the

1586
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 5: little kicker that they gave him. But he only paid

1587
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 5: about two thirds of what his his position, with his

1588
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 5: expertise and his Pro Bowl caliber expertise demanded.

1589
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 4: Man, And so it's just a little behind the curve.

1590
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 5: Ball there, they're a little behind the curve and the

1591
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 5: way things go, and it seems like they caught up

1592
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 5: with the salaries they're playing. They're paying what everybody else

1593
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,799
Speaker 5: is paying. It's just they're not balanced at their offensive defense.

1594
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 5: Are two different animals, Yeah, two different creations.

1595
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:29,799
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go out to the phones. Welcome in, Debbie

1596
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 2: in Norwood, Debbie.

1597
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 19: Yeah, I'm just watching last two games, and man, I

1598
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 19: don't know what has happened, especially with Joe Burrow.

1599
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 9: Like we looked good in the first half of the game,

1600
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:47,560
Speaker 9: and then all of a sudden, it's like he was

1601
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 9: sitting in.

1602
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 13: A warm backup and started and everything just went to

1603
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:52,560
Speaker 13: hell in a handbasket.

1604
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 2: What happened, Well, we saw what happened last week. I

1605
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 2: mean he played brilliantly for ninety eight percent of the

1606
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 2: game and two rows. Yes, but that's how perfect he

1607
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 2: has to play perfect for this team to win.

1608
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 4: It seems like every mistake he makes.

1609
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 9: Because we have amazing talent on our team.

1610
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, we do look at their record, but they

1611
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 5: they scored forty and lost by two points. They scored

1612
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 5: thirty thirty eight and lost by two points. Under Joe Flacco,

1613
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 5: you know. And so when Joe Burrow come back and

1614
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 5: they scored enough points to win and they still lose.

1615
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 5: They're given up too many points. And they've been given

1616
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 5: up too many points all year long, all year long.

1617
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,879
Speaker 5: So every time the offense makes a mistake, it's almost

1618
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 5: amplified by the fear of what's coming. Here we go again.

1619
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 5: Believe me that that plays into everybody's hearts and minds

1620
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 5: on that field.

1621
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 4: And if you if you're winning, it doesn't. But if

1622
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 4: you're losing, yeah, it kind of does.

1623
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 2: Joe is pressing, he is, he is pressing to attempt

1624
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 2: to play perfect in any you can't.

1625
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1626
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 5: Now, they're human beings too, So all week long now

1627
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 5: they're hearing talk shows like ours and and the callers

1628
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 5: are upset and for different reasons, and they and they

1629
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 5: all and and you got to go to Kroger's with

1630
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 5: your wife to get groceries, and you know it's Christmas

1631
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 5: shop and time, so you're going out to buy your

1632
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 5: wife and present and you're hearing all this talk and

1633
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 5: there you know he's not good this and that, and

1634
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 5: it eats at your soul because you you you put

1635
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 5: everything you have into this and like you said, we

1636
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 5: have great players. We have great players, and they're great

1637
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 5: human beings, they really are.

1638
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

1639
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,719
Speaker 5: But like I said earlier, it's it's not the sixty

1640
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 5: five plays that you make, it's the four that you

1641
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 5: don't that costs us everywhere.

1642
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 3: And we can point to about five plays today that.

1643
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 5: Killed them, and it seems like when Joe makes them,

1644
01:23:56,439 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 5: they're amplified that because we throw the ball so often.

1645
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 5: The tipped pass off of Chase's hands intercepted, you know,

1646
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 5: the pass last week that he threw on the screen.

1647
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 5: He threw the ball exactly where he sposed to. The

1648
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 5: guy made a great play. Yes, you know. The Lions

1649
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 5: did that today to Safford. The defensive lineman picked it

1650
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 5: off the same.

1651
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 4: Way Aiden Hutchinson.

1652
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 5: But they came back and won because they were able

1653
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 5: to stop people when they needed to.

1654
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 3: We didn't do that, all right, Tabby, thank you very

1655
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 3: much for the call.

1656
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 4: Uh it's called complimentary football, chick. You know what really is.

1657
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 5: They gotta bail and they gotta bail him out when

1658
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 5: he makes his few mistakes.

1659
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 2: And all I can think of is Jordan Battle made

1660
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 2: a couple of nice plays. Yeah, Okay, celebrated the one

1661
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 2: where he shot the gap and made the nice tackle,

1662
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 2: and on the very next play, Boom rashied Ali thirty

1663
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 2: yards on the screen pass Yeh Boom untouched seven to

1664
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 2: nothing Ravens on their way to a twenty four to

1665
01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 2: nothing victory.

1666
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 3: Well, let's review the Guilty Windows.

1667
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 2: Window of opportunity brought to you by Guilty Windows. The

1668
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:09,520
Speaker 2: key to quality windows is trusting the pros Guilty Windows,

1669
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 2: and the window of opportunity for the Bengals came when.

1670
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 3: Jordan Battle.

1671
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 2: Gets the interception off an errant pass from Lamar Jackson

1672
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 2: that bounced out of the hands of Zay Flowers and

1673
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 2: the Bengals get set up at their own twenty seven

1674
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:29,679
Speaker 2: yard line.

1675
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 3: But what do they do.

1676
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 2: They go three and out, three and out.

1677
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 5: They didn't take advantage of the opportunity. That's a complimentary

1678
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 5: football comment that we were just talking about. Yeah, you know,

1679
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 5: offense makes a mistake, defense has to bail them out.

1680
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 4: Defense makes a great play, the offense got to capitalize

1681
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 4: on it.

1682
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 5: That's that's that's complimentary football, and it's just it's not

1683
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,799
Speaker 5: consistent enough at this point.

1684
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 3: And that came after Joe Burrow's interception.

1685
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they Joe threw an interception off the tip

1686
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 5: and then uh we got one off a tip and

1687
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 5: then do it with it.

1688
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:06,879
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. So frustrating ten to nothing or fourteen

1689
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 2: to nothing at half. That second touchdown in the final

1690
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 2: minute of that second quarter, the twenty eight yard or

1691
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 2: de Ze Flowers was an absolute killer killer because the

1692
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 2: Bengals had the ball first and ten at the two

1693
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 2: minute warning at their own forty seven yard line, and

1694
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:28,839
Speaker 2: a run and two incompletions only burned a few seconds

1695
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 2: off the clock. You would have liked the Bengals to

1696
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 2: have driven down scored before the end of the half.

1697
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,759
Speaker 2: You're getting the ball to start the third quarter. Nothing

1698
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 2: worked for the Cincinnati Bengals today in a twenty four

1699
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 2: to nothing loss, the first time they've been shut out

1700
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 2: since the opener of the twenty seventeen season, twenty to

1701
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 2: nothing at home in the opening game of the season

1702
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 2: by the Baltimore Ravens.

1703
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 4: Chick.

1704
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 5: Yes, the Ravens have twenty four rushes and they had

1705
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:01,600
Speaker 5: twelve asses, Yes.

1706
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 4: Thirty six plays and how many were for more than

1707
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 4: twenty eight game game right there?

1708
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 5: Just that's a third of the third of the you know,

1709
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 5: that's just ridiculous. You can't you can't be doing that.

1710
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 2: And just a reminder to fans that postgame sports talk

1711
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 2: is brought to you in part by AE Door and

1712
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 2: Window Company. They sell the best and service the rest.

1713
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 2: But Bruce is so right. You make forty good plays.

1714
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 2: It's the four or five that you don't make or

1715
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 2: the mistakes that you make that kill you. And that's

1716
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 2: what happened today.

1717
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, we had thirty nine passing attempts and twenty nine

1718
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:39,480
Speaker 5: rushing attempts.

1719
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's ridiculous.

1720
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:44,640
Speaker 3: Held the ball for nearly forty minutes.

1721
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 5: Sixty eight plays to their thirty six plays.

1722
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 3: And they shut us, set the Beckels out. It's crazy.

1723
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:58,719
Speaker 3: Twenty four to nothing. It just it blows your mind.

1724
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 5: But the only goal that they compost was to dominate the

1725
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 5: time possession, to give Jacksonville or to give uh Lamar

1726
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 5: Jackson as few.

1727
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 4: Of opportunities as possible. Yeah, that was.

1728
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 5: It's been that way all year long. With the defense

1729
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 5: as shaky as had been and unstable, they got to

1730
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 5: limit the opponent's possessions.

1731
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 2: So they limited Lamar Jackson to eight completions, but two.

1732
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:24,440
Speaker 3: Of them were for touchdowns.

1733
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 4: Oh it hurts, man, it hurts.

1734
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 3: Hey.

1735
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers post game

1736
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 2: Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. This is the place

1737
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 2: to event five three, seven four nine, seven thousand, one,

1738
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 2: eight hundred The Big One, Bad Football makes for Great

1739
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 2: Radio on seven hundred WLW in Cincinnati's.

1740
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen thirty. And today.

1741
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 2: You are listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame

1742
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 2: Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers on seven hundred WLWN, Cincinnati,

1743
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. Chick Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski, and we're

1744
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 2: live at the Wings and Rings in Union, Kentucky on

1745
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,719
Speaker 2: US forty two eighty nine eighty seven. We're here till

1746
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 2: eight thirty tonight at Bruce. Right now, let's go over

1747
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 2: some scores around the National Football League. The Broncos at

1748
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 2: home over the Green Bay Packers.

1749
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 4: May thirty four to twenty six games.

1750
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 2: Broncos improved to twelve and two, Packers fall to nine

1751
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 2: four and one.

1752
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 4: That might make the Denver Broncos a number one seed. Man.

1753
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 2: The Chicago Bears at home crushed the Cleveland Browns. The

1754
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 2: Browns are three and eleven, the Chicago Bears ten and four,

1755
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:49,440
Speaker 2: five and one at home, and the team that launched

1756
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:53,679
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams career, your Cincinnati Bengals.

1757
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 4: Yep.

1758
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 2: Bengals fall, of course, twenty four to nothing at home.

1759
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 2: Two the Baltimore Ravens. Ravens approved to seven and seven.

1760
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 2: Bengals fall to four and ten. Chargers eke out a

1761
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 2: sixteen to thirteen win over the Chiefs in Kansas City.

1762
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 2: Chargers improved to ten and four. Chiefs fall to six

1763
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 2: and eight.

1764
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,679
Speaker 4: And Mahomes maybe out. Maybe he's hurt.

1765
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 2: He's hurt, that's right, and they could very well be

1766
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 2: eliminated here from the playoffs.

1767
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 4: I think they are mathematically Chiefs are out.

1768
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:33,679
Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills, down early twenty one to nothing, roar

1769
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 2: back and beat the New England Patriots up in Foxborough

1770
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 2: thirty five to thirty one. A twenty eight point second

1771
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 2: half for the Buffalo Bills.

1772
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:46,959
Speaker 3: You trailed twenty four to seven.

1773
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 5: And continually tried to share the offense, and then at

1774
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 5: some point they say, Josh win this game for us,

1775
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 5: and he's good enough to do it like Superman.

1776
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:57,719
Speaker 2: Nineteen of twenty eight, one hundred and ninety three yards

1777
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 2: three touchdowns for Josh Allen the command The Washington Commanders

1778
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 2: are twenty nine to twenty one winners over the Giants.

1779
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 2: In New York, a pair of struggling teams, Commanders four

1780
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 2: and ten, Giants two and twelve.

1781
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 3: Raiders get shut out.

1782
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 2: In Philadelphia buy the Eagles thirty one to nothing. The

1783
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 2: Raiders are two and twelve. The Eagles improved to nine

1784
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 2: and five five and two at home. Jaguars all over

1785
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 2: the Jets in Jacksonville. The Jags now ten and four.

1786
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 2: Jets go to three and eleven. Trevor Lawrence twenty of

1787
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 2: thirty two passing three hundred and thirty yards and five touchdowns.

1788
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 4: Chick Trevor Lawrence.

1789
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 5: As much as this city is anguishing over the Bengals,

1790
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 5: how about New York?

1791
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 4: How struggles that they have with the Giants and the Jets. Oh,

1792
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 4: they got two franchises that can't get out of their

1793
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 4: own way.

1794
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:57,839
Speaker 3: In the largest market, in the largest market in the United.

1795
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 2: States, Texans are forty to twenty winners at home over

1796
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals. Texans approved the nine to five Cardinals

1797
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:10,640
Speaker 2: at three and eleven and CJ. Stroud twenty two to

1798
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 2: twenty nine two hundred and sixty yards, three touchdowns.

1799
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 5: They've caught fire. They're playing great football. What a great

1800
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 5: defense they have.

1801
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 2: And the Los Angeles Rams at home forty one to

1802
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 2: thirty four winners over the visiting Detroit Lions. Lions now

1803
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 2: eight and six, Rams approved to eleven and three. Matthew

1804
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 2: Stafford a couple of touchdown passes. He throws for three

1805
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty eight yards.

1806
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 4: The Lions are facing elimination two, that's right.

1807
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 2: And the Saints in New Orleans twenty to seventeen winners

1808
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:49,919
Speaker 2: over the visiting Carolina Panthers. Panthers now seven and seven,

1809
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 2: Saints are are four and ten, and the forty nine Ers,

1810
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 2: how do they keep winning? Thirty seven to twenty four

1811
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 2: at home over the Tennessee Titans. Titan said two and twelve,

1812
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers had ten and four and Phillips Rivers

1813
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:10,719
Speaker 2: debut has comeback after being out since two thousand.

1814
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 5: Honestly, yes, it's a pretty impressive comeback. I mean, Joe

1815
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 5: Flacco was great in his tenure here as a Bengal,

1816
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 5: with the exception of the first game if you remember

1817
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 5: that one, it was it was not overly exciting. But

1818
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 5: today he threw a for over one hundred yards, threw

1819
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 5: a for a touchdown pass. He had him in the

1820
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 5: ballgame and they were winning for most of that ballgame.

1821
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 5: He made him competitive. Now, what can happen in the

1822
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 5: next couple of couple of weeks because we already saw him,

1823
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 5: you know, stretching his shoulder out with the trainer and

1824
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 5: you know, getting sacked a few times, and.

1825
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 4: I have an offensive linement have to help him up.

1826
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the banjo, the joe strings are a little tight,

1827
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 2: yeah or whatever. But the Seattle Seahawks eke it out

1828
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:57,639
Speaker 2: over the Indianapolis Colts touring acl Patrick Mahomes Wow, eighteen

1829
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 2: to sixteen. Seattle Seahawks over the Colts.

1830
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 4: Micah Parsons feared torn Aco Wow.

1831
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:11,720
Speaker 2: And Tomorrow Knight's game the Dolphins at the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1832
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 2: Steelers at seven and six, Dolphins at six and seven.

1833
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 2: And tonight's game is the Vikings at the Cowboys. Vikings

1834
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:22,559
Speaker 2: at five and eight, the Cowboys at six, six and one.

1835
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,759
Speaker 2: We've got time to go out to the phones. Jack

1836
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 2: is a Dayton Jack, What do you say?

1837
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:29,680
Speaker 10: Yes?

1838
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 8: Hey, hello, Hello?

1839
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:32,720
Speaker 4: Yes?

1840
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1841
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 8: Can you hear me sure?

1842
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 4: Ken?

1843
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1844
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 8: The Bengals are going to make some progress in this

1845
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 8: sense Burrough Chase era. They've got to improve the defense overnight.

1846
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 8: And man, i'd pack you jump pair of draft picks

1847
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,799
Speaker 8: for each of the top three teams in the draft

1848
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:55,679
Speaker 8: and go out and get ohigh skates, the three best

1849
01:34:55,680 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 8: defensive players, reef Jackson Downs and go at it and

1850
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 8: try to improve better than twenty five percent of the

1851
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 8: defense overnight. Roll the dice and see what happens. Otherwise,

1852
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 8: it's gonna be us in the Browns for who knows

1853
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:15,639
Speaker 8: the next half dozen years. I'll listen to your comments.

1854
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 10: Thanks.

1855
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 2: Well, Like we mentioned it earlier, there's like six Ohio

1856
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 2: State buck eyes really on both sides of the uh

1857
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage that are gonna go in the

1858
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 2: first round of the NFL Draft. There Caleb Downs, r

1859
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 2: Vel Reese. These are very talented uh gosh, a linebacker

1860
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 2: and the dB. It'd be nice if the Bengals could

1861
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 2: pick one of those guys up. To me, it's gonna

1862
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 2: be a defensive draft. Yeah, you're gonna miss on some guys,

1863
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 2: but you've got to improve this defense.

1864
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 3: And really, when you look at the.

1865
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 2: Offense, Bruce Higgins is back Burho is back, Jamar Chase

1866
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 2: is back. You've got two young guards, You've got a

1867
01:35:55,200 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 2: very good you basically have decent tackles. Amarus Mims is

1868
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 2: awesome at right tackle, and you've got a young Chase Brown.

1869
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 3: It's samaj Is due back.

1870
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 2: So really the offense, Mi Kaziki's back, you're fairly.

1871
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 3: Well set on offense. You've got to improve this defense.

1872
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 5: Their window their windows about three years, maybe four. And

1873
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 5: then and then then you're looking at the end of

1874
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 5: the careers of some of the finest in Bengal history

1875
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 5: to play those positions, Chase and Burrow and Higgins, and

1876
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 5: and then what you know, the evolution can't be reloaded

1877
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 5: offense again because we're losing games defensively and stats don't lie.

1878
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 5: And I hate the point fingers, but when you're at

1879
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 5: this point in the year, when you're ranked at the

1880
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 5: bottom of the league, it's because of the work that

1881
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,719
Speaker 5: you did. It's it's the results that you were able

1882
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 5: to perform. You know, offensively they're not down to the

1883
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 5: bottom of the league, there's somewhere in the middle, but

1884
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 5: defensively they are down the bottom. Yes, you can win

1885
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 5: with a with the middle of the road defense. You

1886
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 5: can win with a.

1887
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 4: Fifteenth, sixteenth, seventeenth ranked defense.

1888
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 5: A lot of games and if we had that this year,

1889
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:02,799
Speaker 5: we don't want a lot of games.

1890
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 4: But we don't. And some of it's a maturity young

1891
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:07,560
Speaker 4: lung linebackers.

1892
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 5: We've saw two defensive ends step up the last couple

1893
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 5: of games and play better. Defensive tackles have been playing

1894
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 5: a little better, secondary a little better.

1895
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 4: Maybe it's because they're doing a lot more twisting, blitzing.

1896
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 2: And and to Betrius Knight really step forward at times today.

1897
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, but these guys are all all American blue chip

1898
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 5: or easier the top shelf players coming up big, big programs,

1899
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 5: and for some reason it's not gelling on Sundays. And

1900
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:35,799
Speaker 5: that's what we has to fix. We're picking great players,

1901
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 5: it has to fix itself on Sunday.

1902
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:41,799
Speaker 2: We've reached the top of the hour break at eight o'clock.

1903
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 2: We have a half hour to go. You are listening

1904
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 2: to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Post Game Sports Talk

1905
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:50,120
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1906
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,759
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1919
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:53,679
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1921
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:58,160
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1922
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1923
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:08,120
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1924
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 2: Bengals legendary offensive lineman and Mike mills Is are on

1925
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:16,840
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1928
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1929
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 2: We're here till the bottom of the hour, continuing to

1930
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:32,679
Speaker 2: talk Bengals football in the wake of their twenty four

1931
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 2: to zern shutout loss today to the Baltimore Ravens. And

1932
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:40,679
Speaker 2: the first thing we got to do here this half hour,

1933
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 2: mister Kozerski, is let's review today's Postman Law injury report,

1934
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1935
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 2: to four Postman Others promise, Postman delivers and Chris Jenkins

1936
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:56,799
Speaker 2: had a ankle injury.

1937
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 5: On the first play of the eighties. They made a

1938
01:39:58,439 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 5: tackle in the pocket down on him.

1939
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 4: Yes, devastating early U Sama J.

1940
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 2: P Ryan got nipped up with with an ankle. He

1941
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 2: went inside, came back out, played.

1942
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 4: Tough dude right there. Oh he robed the way he

1943
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:12,679
Speaker 4: plays football.

1944
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 2: Yes, And later in the game Cody Ford had to

1945
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 2: come in fresh at ten degrees minus one win chill

1946
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 2: filling in for am Arius Man.

1947
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:25,599
Speaker 5: That's the one that I'm worried about the most. He's

1948
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:28,200
Speaker 5: such a valuable part of that front because I think

1949
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 5: it was playing great football.

1950
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 2: Some sort of a knee injury or a you know,

1951
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 2: lower body injury.

1952
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:36,400
Speaker 4: So there's no little dude either, that's for sure.

1953
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 2: And that is your Postman Law Injury Reports brought to

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1955
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 2: Others promise, Postman delivers. And we want to give a

1956
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 2: shout out to the Walter Payton Man of the Year

1957
01:40:56,400 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Bengals, and that is center Ted Carris. Carris,

1958
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 2: and here's the guy could have started his own business

1959
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 2: and made a ton of money off since he had yep,

1960
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 2: but he's turned that into his.

1961
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 5: His charitable donation fundraiser and it's amazing. It's taken off

1962
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 5: like crazy. I just was at the dinner the other night.

1963
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 5: Anthony Munhos at his foundation sells one of the raffle items,

1964
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 5: and he and Ted got together and put together this

1965
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 5: deal with Ted's new offensive line and Anthony's old offensive line.

1966
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:31,959
Speaker 5: So we threw in lap him in our group, and

1967
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 5: Ted threw in everybody on the offensive line. Joe showed up,

1968
01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow showed up for a little while. We had

1969
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 5: a great time. And if you can put all those

1970
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:43,639
Speaker 5: big carcasses in one room with two sponsors, Anthony Munia's

1971
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 5: foundation is an amazing They do so much good work

1972
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 5: and to pair with Ted and what he does is phenomenal.

1973
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 4: I'm so happy to be part of that group.

1974
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:54,639
Speaker 3: No doubt about it.

1975
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 2: And postgame sports Talk is also brought to you by

1976
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 2: M and P Logistics. From first down to final mile,

1977
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:07,799
Speaker 2: MNP delivers, you can depend on it. And my good friend,

1978
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 2: really the first quarterback when I got the job is

1979
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:13,799
Speaker 2: the Bengals beat writer for the Dayton Daily News full time.

1980
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 2: The quarterback was Jeff Blake. Yeah, played with Jeff, played

1981
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 2: with Jeff back. He was a Jet for two years

1982
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two nineteen ninety three. Bengals picked him up

1983
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:30,719
Speaker 2: when he got basically waived yep by the New York Jets.

1984
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:34,200
Speaker 2: Bruce Coslet knew all about him. He came into Cincinnati,

1985
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:38,600
Speaker 2: played from ninety four through nineteen ninety nine. He was

1986
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:41,559
Speaker 2: with the New Orleans Saints for two years, the Ravens

1987
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:44,599
Speaker 2: in two thousand and two, the Cardinals in two thousand

1988
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 2: and three, the Eagles in four, and the Bears and five.

1989
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 2: He carved out a fourteen year career.

1990
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1991
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 5: All he did was throw a touchdown passes the Carl

1992
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:59,240
Speaker 5: Pickens all day. He just came those those screen makers,

1993
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 5: they just drop right in the bucket.

1994
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1995
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 2: And then the Bengals Legends book that I wrote, I

1996
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 2: mean Lapp told me it came down the chimney. Yeah,

1997
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 2: that is through the most beautiful rainbows. If you have time,

1998
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 2: go onto YouTube just plug in Jeff Blake and deep

1999
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:20,800
Speaker 2: ball thrower. Nobody threw a prettier deep ball.

2000
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 3: And I'm serious in NFL.

2001
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 5: History are there they talk all the time about the

2002
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 5: current Russell Wilson era. When the deep balls that he

2003
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 5: threw the state, that's exactly the same thing. They come

2004
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 5: right down in the bucket. It's like, that's a heck

2005
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 5: of a pass when you can throw it into a

2006
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 5: five gallon bucket from forty yards away, no doubt, no doubt.

2007
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 2: That's And then and to have Jeff Blake come back

2008
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 2: as the ruler of the Jungle. I feel so bad

2009
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 2: that the Bengals get shut out twenty four to nothing.

2010
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, he was a former Raven and a former Bengal.

2011
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 2: And Neil O'Donnell took over as the quarterback after Jeff.

2012
01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 5: He was kicked out of New York. You think about

2013
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 5: how much turmoil the Jets have been in. Yeah, you

2014
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:03,680
Speaker 5: wonder you let go of a guy with that ability,

2015
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,600
Speaker 5: and you wonder why they can't win, why they're so

2016
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 5: up and down and up, and they win a couple

2017
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 5: of games in the row that they lose ten.

2018
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 4: It is just the you want with a management for crimedlight?

2019
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 4: Is is that what it is?

2020
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 5: There?

2021
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 4: As well? You know, is it? The Bengals have a.

2022
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 5: Lot of questions, and people questioned Mike Brown and the

2023
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 5: organization for the way they handle their business. But what

2024
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 5: about the Jets? Yes, you know, I mean the Giants.

2025
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 5: The Giants had a winning era, but what did it take?

2026
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:34,559
Speaker 5: You know, it took Hall of famers pull it off,

2027
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 5: and now they can't get out.

2028
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 4: Of their own way.

2029
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 2: That's right, Lawrence Taylor, Yeah, Bill Parcels, Yeah wow. And

2030
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:44,759
Speaker 2: also Bruce, let's check on Cincinnati's defensive secondary coverage today,

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2033
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Speaker 2: say is consistency. They'll look good for a few plays

2034
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:57,960
Speaker 2: and then they'll blow a coverage.

2035
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:01,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's the name of the game. We talked

2036
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 5: about this several times this evening. You defensively, you you

2037
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 5: run all those snaps and and you're you're looking great

2038
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 5: and then you blow a coverage. It just destroys all

2039
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 5: the work you did leading up to that. They had

2040
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 5: thirty two thirty six plays and eight of them were

2041
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 5: for more than twenty yards. Yes, and you know that's

2042
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 5: that's a losing formula right there.

2043
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:27,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the touchdown pass the jay Toose Flowers and uh

2044
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 2: rashen Ali on the uh on the swing.

2045
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 4: Pass screen thirty yards untouched.

2046
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:39,160
Speaker 2: So just uh. And you could tell our defensive coaches

2047
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 2: were were bombing, have no doubt on that. On that series.

2048
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:46,559
Speaker 5: Oh, you can't imagine what's going on in in their

2049
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:50,520
Speaker 5: meeting rooms because you know they're they're still talking about

2050
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 5: what happened today, and they'll be talking about it tomorrow

2051
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:54,639
Speaker 5: and then they'll bring their players in and talk about

2052
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:57,679
Speaker 5: it again, and you know it's reliving a nightmare.

2053
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, And that is the defensive secondary Coverage

2054
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2055
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Speaker 2: and Jordan Battle did pick off that that was a

2056
01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 2: heads up play, a ball that bounced off the hands

2057
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:13,799
Speaker 2: of Zave Flowers and then his high yes, a diving

2058
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 2: he was able to keep his hands underneath that ball

2059
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:20,000
Speaker 2: and pin it against his leg so it wouldn't hit

2060
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 2: the ground.

2061
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:22,760
Speaker 5: I was I was afraid after I saw it come

2062
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 5: off and get pinned against his leg that they might

2063
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 5: come up with one of those creative overalls.

2064
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he did pin it and I rolled over

2065
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:30,360
Speaker 4: just to the nick of time.

2066
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 3: That's exactly right. And it did not touch the ground.

2067
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 4: Did not touch it. Fantastic.

2068
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:37,160
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2069
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2070
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 2: over twenty years now. How difficult is it, Bruce Kezerski

2071
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 2: number one to bounce back from this? It especially going

2072
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 2: from zero degrees in Cincinnati.

2073
01:46:57,360 --> 01:46:58,920
Speaker 4: It's gonna be very cold this week.

2074
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 2: Two Miami Gardens, Florida. And yeah, it sounds rosy, but man,

2075
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 2: your body has to undergo some big time change.

2076
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 5: I think the rather the warm weather than the what

2077
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:15,600
Speaker 5: we had today. I think as general, especially when you

2078
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 5: get down the end of the season, you're really playing

2079
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 5: for pride and you're playing for next season, impressing the powers.

2080
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 4: That be to make those business decisions.

2081
01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:27,839
Speaker 5: You're gonna play hard no matter where you play, because

2082
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 5: a lot of these guys are playing.

2083
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 2: For their future and now a lot of fans are

2084
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:32,600
Speaker 2: gonna be screaming.

2085
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:34,519
Speaker 5: Every game they play for the future. Don't get me wrong.

2086
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 5: They're always playing for the future, but with nothing to.

2087
01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:38,720
Speaker 4: Gain other than a few wins at the end of

2088
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:40,760
Speaker 4: the season. They're really playing for it now.

2089
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 2: There was a report that I remember years ago talking

2090
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 2: about the toughness of offensive linemen just by and I

2091
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 2: think Ball State University conducted this study. You put on

2092
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 2: a rain coat and run full speed into your garage door. Yeah,

2093
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:01,679
Speaker 2: try that like sixty times.

2094
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 5: The train wrecks there. They're no, it's not a collision

2095
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 5: sport for offensive lineman. They're train wrecks. Every every play

2096
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:10,240
Speaker 5: is a train wreck. I remember uh walking into the

2097
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 5: training room after a game and Chris collins Worth. They're

2098
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:14,760
Speaker 5: sitting up on the training table with ice on both

2099
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:17,759
Speaker 5: knees and both elbows. I said, Man, you got whack today.

2100
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 5: He said, cas I get it once maybe twice a game.

2101
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 5: You guys get it every play. I don't know how

2102
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,160
Speaker 5: you do it. Yeah, that's one from coming from one

2103
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 5: from within the game. You know, makes a lot of sense.

2104
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:31,000
Speaker 5: But pe we all pay for it, you know. Going

2105
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:33,560
Speaker 5: on my next second, next surgery, had knee replacement.

2106
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's it's it's just I wouldn't take

2107
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 4: it training for a second. But we love it.

2108
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:42,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember shaking hands with Well, with Anthony

2109
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 2: and with Anthony Munjo's and Richie Braham.

2110
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 4: And man the the releave hooks.

2111
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 2: The Yeah, the hands and the fingers man that get

2112
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 2: broken and bent and.

2113
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 5: No ligaments and the fingers the thumbs are all flexible

2114
01:48:56,360 --> 01:49:01,519
Speaker 5: and multiple different directions. But again it's none of us

2115
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 5: would trade it for a second. We we we get

2116
01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 5: together at functions, like I said at the Anthony Munius

2117
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:08,760
Speaker 5: thing the other night, the fundraiser.

2118
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 4: Uh, we just have a great time.

2119
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 5: We went to the Jim McNally Hall of Fame induction

2120
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 5: in Canton this summer. Yes, all of us showed up.

2121
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 5: We had it's like old times. We can not see

2122
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 5: each other. Bruce Rhymers come in from Iowa. Haven't seen

2123
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 5: him in years, unbelievable.

2124
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 2: And Jim McNally, the yep d Many period, he just

2125
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:29,720
Speaker 2: had a birthday eighty two, eighty two.

2126
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 5: Congratulations Jimmy. He's a he's a one of a kind

2127
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:37,640
Speaker 5: of fantastic coach. Revolutionary, I mean revolutionary, he taught he

2128
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:40,040
Speaker 5: taught things that were way ahead of their time. That

2129
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 5: and he created a whole litany of coaches that have

2130
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:46,440
Speaker 5: come down over the years that claimed to be McNally disciples.

2131
01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:48,439
Speaker 4: And and we love the guy. Uh.

2132
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:52,120
Speaker 5: He pushed us beyond our expectations, made men out of us.

2133
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 4: Really, he truly is the guru.

2134
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:59,439
Speaker 2: And I would encourage high school coaches to check out

2135
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 2: his training on it's free.

2136
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 3: You're going on YouTube.

2137
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:05,480
Speaker 2: Check out the guru.

2138
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:08,599
Speaker 5: He has, he's he's done I don't know, one hundred

2139
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 5: thousand clinics, and he makes videos and he sells his videos.

2140
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 5: And I don't care who you are, you can learn

2141
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:17,559
Speaker 5: something from watching his videos. He sends us on our string,

2142
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 5: our tech string, videos of him every day doing ten chins.

2143
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:23,759
Speaker 4: Yes, then he'll then they'll step.

2144
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 5: Down for a second, wait a minute, go back and

2145
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:27,639
Speaker 5: do ten more chins. He's eighty two years old, chick.

2146
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:30,720
Speaker 5: He's just he's just an incredible you incredible guy.

2147
01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 4: And we we we hope the best for Jimmy.

2148
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 2: That is fantastic. Yeah, And you know and where you know,

2149
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 2: the Bengals are getting ready to go down to Miami

2150
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 2: then come home for two games. When this when the

2151
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:43,800
Speaker 2: schedule came out and you.

2152
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:46,120
Speaker 3: Saw the end, you know the end.

2153
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:46,479
Speaker 4: I'm there.

2154
01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:49,440
Speaker 2: Wow, this has a real.

2155
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 4: Chance to be special.

2156
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:54,800
Speaker 2: And I said ten and seven to start the year,

2157
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 2: and then when Joe went down, it was gonna be

2158
01:50:57,320 --> 01:50:58,599
Speaker 2: I'm there five and twelve.

2159
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, just as you know what you're facing now,

2160
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:02,600
Speaker 4: as you're facing.

2161
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:06,679
Speaker 5: Desperate teams in every week, you're facing teams that are

2162
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:10,840
Speaker 5: in the same boat. They've all lost their season, they're

2163
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:13,400
Speaker 5: out of the playoffs, they have nothing to play for.

2164
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:14,599
Speaker 4: Except for their futures.

2165
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 5: Now you're going to see what these guys are made of,

2166
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:18,599
Speaker 5: and on both sides of the ball.

2167
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 3: And there's going to be detractors to you know, to

2168
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:22,840
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow.

2169
01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 2: We hear it in some of the voices of the fans,

2170
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 2: you know, the money that he's making, the he's a

2171
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:33,599
Speaker 2: he's a fashion conscious guy.

2172
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it.

2173
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 2: I mean he marches to the beat of his own

2174
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:40,640
Speaker 2: druma man, and he's got his own like fashion advisor.

2175
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:44,840
Speaker 3: This guy mister Smith who uh yeah, you.

2176
01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 5: Know that's that's that's for his that's for the people

2177
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:49,360
Speaker 5: out there that love and adore him, yes, and and

2178
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:52,040
Speaker 5: the guys that play with him and the guys that

2179
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 5: bradened the game.

2180
01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 4: He was at dinner the.

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Speaker 5: Other night with us. He has the Paris wet pants on.

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01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 5: You know that's a hoodie. You know that's Joe. That's

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01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:03,559
Speaker 5: where he's comfortable. Yes, but he does that because he

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Speaker 5: trying to lead this city back to greatness.

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Speaker 4: And I got appreciate that about the man. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: it was.

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Speaker 2: Just a few years ago with number one that you know,

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01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl run, the new uniforms, Jamar Chase doing

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01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 2: the gritty.

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01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 3: This team had a national following.

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01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 4: Yeah it was.

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01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:23,639
Speaker 2: It was kind of the young sexy team out there,

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01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:26,360
Speaker 2: right And now, okay, now it's a struggle.

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01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 3: So fans are upset.

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01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 2: I agree with that, but only once team can win

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01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, get geared up, finish this year strong,

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01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 2: get some draft picks, get this defense fixed, and let's

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Speaker 2: go to war next year.

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Speaker 4: I would.

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01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:43,439
Speaker 5: I would look look forward so forward to next year,

2201
01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 5: wait and see how frantic next year is going to be.

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01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:49,280
Speaker 5: With the Chiefs out of it already and and Buffalo

2203
01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:50,880
Speaker 5: not playing well, I don't think they're going to go

2204
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:52,880
Speaker 5: very deep with they even if they get in. The

2205
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:55,639
Speaker 5: Bengals are out of it already. You know the Cowboys

2206
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:59,240
Speaker 5: are out of with all these great, great fifty sixty

2207
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 5: million quarter you wait and see how crazy the league

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01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 5: is gonna be next year when you got upstart quarterbacks

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01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:08,839
Speaker 5: like Caleb Williams and Jordan Love and all these fantasts.

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01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 4: It's gonna be just amazing.

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01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:13,519
Speaker 3: Get Trevor Lawrence, Trevor Lawrence, everybody stroud.

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01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:17,000
Speaker 4: There is no such thing as as a push game.

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01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:21,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even Bryce Young Yeah. And then Washington commanders

2214
01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:24,679
Speaker 2: Ja Jade and Daniels then just go to be back,

2215
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 2: hopefully one hundred percent healthy. So yeah, here's the guy

2216
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 2: that went to the NFC Championship game last year. He

2217
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 2: got injured. Washington's down. So misery loves company.

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01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:37,559
Speaker 5: So many of these quarters, so many of these these

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01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:41,559
Speaker 5: franchises have their franchise quarterback. Right, there's gonna be more

2220
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 5: exciting guys coming in the league as receivers and running

2221
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:47,200
Speaker 5: backs and huge offensive lineman. They're getting bigger check these

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01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 5: linemen are getting here. When I played, we used to

2223
01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 5: talk about the average of two ninety five or three

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01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 5: hundred pounds.

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01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:54,680
Speaker 4: Wow, they're big. They're over three hundred pounds. How's a

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01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:56,360
Speaker 4: dinner with these guys? The other night and the case.

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01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:58,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we average about three twenty five, three

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01:53:58,880 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 5: thirty up and down the board.

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01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 4: And this was kind of even the backups included or

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01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:04,719
Speaker 4: three are that big? They're massive?

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01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what Anthony played it, what like two ninety five.

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01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 5: I was two eighty seven to ninety something like that.

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01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:13,920
Speaker 5: My Toya the same. Joe Walder was huge at three

2234
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 5: oh five. Brian Blados was huge at three three oh five,

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01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:21,479
Speaker 5: three ten, Bruce Bruce Ymers six seven ninety five. Those

2236
01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:23,120
Speaker 5: were the guys that said that they were. That's what

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01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:25,680
Speaker 5: made us big is Joe was sixty seven, Brimers was

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01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 5: six seven.

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01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 4: You know, all the rest of us were six five.

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't wasn't it you guys that got measured

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01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 2: on it some kind of Uh No.

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01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 4: It wasn't me per se.

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01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:37,080
Speaker 5: But yeah, we had uh we had four guys away

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01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 5: in at to ninety two.

2245
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 2: And was it was it a regular scale or was

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01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 2: it some kind was it?

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01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 5: It was a normal training camp type of scale, kind

2248
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 5: of like your bathroom scale was an oversize.

2249
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:48,240
Speaker 4: But Sam didn't believe it.

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Speaker 5: So he took those four guys down at the Buckley

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01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 5: Green and feet in Wilmington and made him get on

2252
01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:54,480
Speaker 5: the scale. And I'm not gonna mention the names either

2253
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 5: got on the scale one at a time, and every

2254
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:58,360
Speaker 5: one of them was the well over the three hundred mark.

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Speaker 4: That's when all the diets started. Oh man, that is wild.

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01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 4: But I didn't have to make that trip. That's wild.

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01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:04,800
Speaker 4: He picked out four guys.

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01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:06,840
Speaker 5: He picked out the four guys in gosh, you could

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01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:10,760
Speaker 5: tell if if if cous is eighty six.

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01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:14,240
Speaker 4: And he's ninety, there's no way that guy's ninety two. Yeah.

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01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:17,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh man, Yeah, we read about that.

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01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:21,240
Speaker 5: The grain, the Buckley Grain and feet stow up in Wilmington, Ohio. Man,

2263
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 5: that's a drive through truck scale.

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01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 4: Just phenomenal.

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01:55:25,680 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 2: Hey, really appreciate you being my partner this year at

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01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 2: different times, and really appreciated Bruce Cosly it there, Bruce, Yeah,

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01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:40,840
Speaker 2: cause yeah, that's all right. That was my first head

2268
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,120
Speaker 2: coach when I got to beat Is that right? So yeah, Bruce,

2269
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 2: Bruce Cosley and he's getting up there too, man.

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01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:47,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, they all are. We all are.

2271
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Chick, I appreciate the opportunity to look

2272
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:52,840
Speaker 5: forward to do it in the future. Please look me up.

2273
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:55,280
Speaker 5: I'm more than willing to come down here and spend

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01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 5: some time helping.

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01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 10: UH.

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01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 5: I love talking about the Bengals, and I love the organization.

2277
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:02,080
Speaker 5: I hope they turn this thing around next year and

2278
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:05,080
Speaker 5: make it successful so that everybody has nothing to talk about.

2279
01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 5: And then maybe bad football makes for great radio.

2280
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:10,000
Speaker 4: We'll have to come up with a new touchline.

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01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 3: That's exactly what we want to tire.

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01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 2: Out their greatness because we remember how awesome this place

2283
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 2: was wherever we ho.

2284
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:19,480
Speaker 5: How good was your show when they were winning? They

2285
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:20,360
Speaker 5: went to the Super.

2286
01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:22,840
Speaker 3: Bowl, the place was packed. Yeah, it was just phenomenal.

2287
01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 2: So on behalf of my partner, Bruce Kazerski, our engineer awesome,

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01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 2: Mike Mills, and back at the studio Sean McMahon and

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01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:36,800
Speaker 2: Danny Gleason. This is the Chickster Chick Ludwig saying thanks

2290
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 2: for listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealer's post game

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01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:44,840
Speaker 2: Sports Talk presented by Arnel Carriers live from Wings and

2292
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:49,680
Speaker 2: Rings in Union, Kentucky on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's

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