1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: We got EJ on at four o'clock. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: Interesting guests at five o'clock, a guy, what's his name, 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 2: Jimmy DeNardo, who's part of the Akrosser Stadium grounds crew, 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: and they'll talk about the preparation process and he said 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: he I asked him about Pitt playing there and how 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: it affected the field. He said, he has some very 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: candid information about that. The said, he said it it 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: is a factor negatively, but not why you think. 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 1: So we got the grounds crew guy on at at 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: five o'clock. 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: I assume he's some relation to Dirt Donardo, the head 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: groundskeeper from back in the day. But I want to 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: get back to talking about EJ drafting Mario. Don't forget 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: there was no YouTube, then no social media. Then you 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: know Mario. The highlights of him at juniors weren't all 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: over TV. You had to be there. He had to 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: go see Mario, which EJ did. EJ is the GM. 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: Usually he send the scout there, but EJ went personally 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: because EJ's from Montreal and Mario's junior team, Laval was 20 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: just outside Montreal. EJ was from Montreal and he went 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: to see Mario play a bunch of times, and he 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 2: was very quickly convinced. He told Tom McMillan, this kid 23 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: can score goals in any FN league. And by the way, EJ, EJ, 24 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 2: you know when he's excited about the conversation and talks 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: like a machine gun, and never more so than he 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 2: spoke about Mario Lemieux back when he got. 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: So fired up. 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: Now I mentioned the name Jacques Boyette earlier in the program. 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: In Mario's last year of junior Mario had one hundred 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: and thirty three goals and one hundred and forty nine 31 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: assists in seventy games, two hundred and eighty two points. 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: For those who can't do long division, that is over 33 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: four points per game. 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: Uh. 35 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: And his linemate was this guy, Jacq Coyett, who played 36 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: with Mario, had seventy six goals in ninety four assists 37 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: in sixty two games. Jacques Coyette never played one game 38 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: of pro hockey. Jason Mackie at the Post Cozette looked 39 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: him up a few years back into did the story 40 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: on him, I mean, and Jackoyette said he could have 41 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: gone to like an East Coast league camp, and he 42 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: decided just you know, all with his life. He became 43 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: a cop instead. But think about this, a guy who 44 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: wasn't seen as remotely a prospect to play pro hockey 45 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: got seventy six goals on Mario Lemuse's wing. My god, 46 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: Mario really was a one man gang, not least when 47 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: he was playing juniors for Laval and Tom McMillan, when 48 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: he was working for the Post Cazette went to Montreal 49 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: to interview Mario before the Peng was drafted him and 50 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: asked Mario about people saying he didn't play defense, and 51 00:02:58,760 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: Mario said, I. 52 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: Have the puck all the time. That's how I scored 53 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty three goals. 54 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 2: And yeah, the Peng was drafted him, and everything good 55 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: that's happened at Pittsburgh Hockey since is a result of 56 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh having drafted Mary Lemieux, and Eddie Johnston was responsible 57 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: for that, not least by tanking the season and finishing 58 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: dead last when Maria was available. Although I won't grill 59 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: lej on that, I won't ask ej to break Ohmarta 60 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: all these years later because he never has. And that's 61 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: the great thing about it, he never has admitted it. 62 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: I like the story I've always told is the closest 63 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: ever heard him even alluding to it was back in 64 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: that year and I was a kid working for UPI. 65 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: I'm on the elevator coming down from the press box, 66 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: and we had a media relations director, Terry Scheffauer, who 67 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: was a real good guy. He's passed away since, really 68 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: good guy. And back then when you worked for hockey team, 69 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: he had a million different jobs. So Shifty was not 70 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 2: only the PR guy. He was the color analyst on broadcasts. 71 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: And Shifty would get really mad when we lost, I 72 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: mean really mad. And that year, you know, even though 73 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: you know, we lost more than anybody and finished did 74 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: last and got Mario. 75 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: Some of the games were interesting. 76 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: And we would blow leads a lot, and thank god, 77 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: we lost one game seven to six to New Jersey 78 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: seven to six with Vincent Trumpley, the bummy goalie would 79 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 2: called up specifically to be a bummy goalie went one 80 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: and six down the stretch, and and if you don't 81 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: lose that game to New Jersey, you don't get Mario. 82 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: That would have been a four point turnaround. But anyway, 83 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm on the elevator with Shifty and EJ and Shift. 84 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 2: He's going nuts because we blew a two goal lead 85 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: late and lost in regulation, okay, and shift he's like 86 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 2: just like really like MF and like smacking the elevator 87 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: with his hand. He's you know, the wall. He's like 88 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: just dark and EJ puts his arm on it goes shifty. 89 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: I don't think you're looking at the big FN picture. 90 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: That's the closest I ever heard e J come. But, 91 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: like I said, breaking the code of secrecy. So you know, 92 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: I hope you can. You know, I gotta be honest. 93 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: I had a bunch of very candid tweets earlier today. 94 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: I know everybody else, every other stag they're talking about 95 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: the Steelers must up. 96 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: I don't care. 97 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: I've been doing it for twenty nine years, and I've 98 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: seen the Steelers seasons play out exactly the same. 99 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: This will be the eighth year in a row where 100 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: you were these. 101 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: Expectation and the coaches crap and nobody will say it, 102 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: and we overrate the defense and overrat a bunch of 103 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: their players and revere them nonetheless, and there's no pressure 104 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: to win, and they don't for whatever reason. But we 105 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: act like they can't, and I know they can't. I 106 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: know they freaking can't. I know this team isn't winning 107 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: a playoff game. 108 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: I know that. You know it too, your sons of bitches, 109 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: you know it too. 110 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: So I just had a good time right now talking 111 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: ten minutes about how Eddie Johnston drafted Mario Lemieux and 112 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: how it wasn't as easy as it looked because I 113 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 2: was there. I know, I know, just like an know, 114 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 2: the Steelers ain't win a no frigging playoff game. 115 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: I know, and I'll tell you what. 116 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: I still think they're gonna win the division, and that'll 117 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: be the final insult, by the way, not the final insult, 118 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: because they'll insult you as long as you let them, 119 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: and you'll let them forever. They're gonna win the division 120 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: and lose the home playoff game to whoever the best 121 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: wild card is. 122 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: If you had to make. 123 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 2: Me predict how this season ends right now, there's gonna 124 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: be some really good team that gets a wild card 125 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 2: and like, like, you know what I can see happened? 126 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: How about this? How great would this be? And it 127 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: would be great? You know why? 128 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: Because I'm tired of this. I'm tired of this. I'm 129 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 2: tired of pretending they're good. I'm tired of acting like 130 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 2: they know what they're doing. 131 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:43,559 Speaker 1: They don't. 132 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: They're going nowhere. Ever, with this owner, with this GM, 133 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: with this coach, they're all fraud They're going nowhere. So 134 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: the final insult not the final one, because, like I said, 135 00:06:53,520 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: you're stupid. They win the division. New England wins that division. 136 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: Buffalo is the top wild card and Josh Allen comes in. 137 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: In frick disease that secondary. 138 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: Tell me you can't feel it, Tell me you can't 139 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: feel it, because I feel it. 140 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: I feel it way down in my plums. 141 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: Parky bag and great story from Hell and Rich Exit 142 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: one Shoey of the Athletic talking hockey at the bottom 143 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: of the hour. Don't forget, we have the Hockey Night 144 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: Show at five point thirty half an hour solid hockey 145 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: talk leading into the Penguins pregame, leading into the Penguins 146 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: at Florida tonight. 147 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: Don't forget. 148 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: You can watch the game with me, and I suggest 149 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: you do at Sharky's and Latrop Big Steeler Camp Hangout. 150 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it more fun than that. 151 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it a Hockey Night watch party. Hangout 152 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: that Sharky's at Latrop tonight. By the way, get there 153 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: early because we always do a thing. You put a 154 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: buck in, you pick up penguin's name on a slip 155 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: of paper out of a hat, and you win a 156 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: night surprised if your guy scores the first goal, or 157 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: for that matter of the second, well, the third goal. 158 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: We give away a lot of stuff. 159 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: So see at Sharky's tonights, I did that unhinted Steeler 160 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: rant saying I know they're not going anywhere this year. Well, 161 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: I do know that, and I know they're not gonna 162 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: do anything with Tom and his coach. Ever, I know that. 163 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: How many times does that have to go bad? How 164 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: many years before you believe it? How often do you 165 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: have to see it until you get it? How many 166 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: more times? Bam bamp I then bam BWn bam bam 167 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: bamp uh. 168 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: Here's Pete Prisco on CBS in this vein. 169 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: He's not really very optimistic about the Steelers. He believes 170 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: they could lose the next seven or eight in a row. 171 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 3: We look at this schedule, would it surprise you, and 172 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: I'm asking this sincerely, okay, that they lost the next one, two, three, four, five. 173 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,479 Speaker 4: We started with the Packers, Okay. 174 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 5: Colts, Chargers, Bengals, Bears, Bills. 175 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: And Ravens, and they're at the er by the way 176 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: other than the Bengals at home like Eighth Street. 177 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: But it could happen, though, is what I'm saying. It 178 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: really could happen. 179 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: Wow, I don't think that's gonna happen, but that's what 180 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: the perception is. When you lose to Joe Flacco and Cincinnati, 181 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: and when the Bengals not exist at running game treads 182 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: you almost as much as Flacco did. That loss at 183 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: Cincinnati on National TV. That was a very damaging defeat 184 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 2: on so many levels, not least in terms of perception. 185 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: And if the Steelers lose at home to Green Bay 186 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: in prime time, yeah, things could snowball and even collapse, 187 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: but not to the degree that Prisco suggests. And I 188 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: would say that the collapse of these Steelers as unlikely 189 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: because of the Aaron Rogers factor. Who would have thought 190 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: that Aaron Rodgers would come in be my favorite Steeler 191 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: and he'd be the lone thing, thelone o thing, the 192 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 2: only thing on the entire roster, in the entire organization. 193 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is the only thing I trust. This is 194 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,239 Speaker 2: kind of weird tonight at Denver. You got the Colorado 195 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: Avalanche playing the Carolina Hurricanes, but they're gonna be wearing 196 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: Quebec Nordiak's and Hartford Whalers jerseys because Colorado used to 197 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: be the Nordeaks and Carolina used to be the Whalers. 198 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if I get that. It's kind of 199 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: like saying. 200 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: To the fan bases in Quebec City and Hartford, yeah, 201 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: we stole your team. Now we're gonna market your logo. 202 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: And even though those teams and those days have nothing 203 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: to do with what we're doing now, we're still gonna 204 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: take advantage. 205 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: I don't like it. As a big fan of the 206 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: Hartford Whalers. 207 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: Bam bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bamp brass bonanza 208 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: after every goal, I I don't like this. Michael Jordan 209 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: is part of NBC's coverage on of the NBA in 210 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: the studio that kicked off was last night, the first 211 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: game the night before. 212 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: I don't care. 213 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna watch. I think two nights ago, and 214 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: Colin Coward made a good point. You got Jordan on 215 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: TV at sixty two, and they moved that TNT show 216 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: over to ESPN with the same old faces like Barkley 217 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: and Shack et cetera, and Lebron's forty and Steph's thirty 218 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: seven and Durant's thirty seven, and the NBA won't turn 219 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: the page. They're marketing nostalgia, which means, Okay, maybe it works, 220 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: but you're not developing new stars. It's like Tom Brady 221 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: on Fox for the NFL. It doesn't matter if Brady's 222 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: any good in analysis, and Brady really isn't, but he's 223 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: Tom Brady. 224 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: Well. The same applies to Michael Jordan. 225 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: I got Sharky's tonight for the Penguins viewing party Tomorrow night, 226 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: going to see North Hills High School football play, hosting 227 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: Central Valley. North Hills with a three and two conference 228 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 2: record Tomorro's non conference and they've already clinched the playoff spots. 229 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 2: So that's that's a young team, made some changes. My 230 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 2: my buddy Austin ellis Janelle Hall's kid from Channel four. 231 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: He's playing a bigger role. So I'm looking forward to 232 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: going to the game tomorrow nights. Up next Josh Joey 233 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 2: talking Penguins one oh five to nine. 234 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: The Spirits Summer News. Join us for the EPSS Halloween. 235 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 4: Cruise on Thursday at Chober thirtieth. 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I'm Scott Davidson. 255 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: Looking for an exceptional driving experience. Find it behind the 256 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: wheel of a Mercedes Benz SUVs. 257 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: Joining me now live in Florida where the Penguins play 258 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: the Panthers. 259 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: He is Josh showing the athletic. Josh, what's gonna happen 260 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: with Brunneck and Kendall. 261 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: Uh, you've written at the Athletic you have a hunch 262 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 2: they're gonna stay. 263 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: You're hearing stuff. Can you expand on that? 264 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mark, everybody I've spoken to in the organization, of course, 265 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 3: is very impressed with these young two and everybody I 266 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: talk with, while they will tell you, hey, it's Kyle's call, 267 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: ultimately they all think that these two are going to 268 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 3: stay for the season. That the Penguins think that they're 269 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: just not going to have their development aided by going 270 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: back to junior at this point, that they think they're 271 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: advanced enough where they can stay in the NHL. And 272 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: remember this, Mark, like Dan mue Is, one of the 273 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: reasons he was hired was because of how good he 274 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 3: is at working with eighteen nineteen twenty year old players. 275 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: They just think having them close to him all season 276 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 3: is probably in their best interest. So I'm not saying 277 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: it's a done deal that they both stay, but I 278 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: can tell you that a lot of people in the 279 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: organization would be really really surprised if either of those 280 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: kids sent out at this point. 281 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe both are good enough to stay, but 282 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: in Kendall's case, in particular, Josh, if he's going to 283 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: be on line with no Back and Hollander all year, 284 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: send them Junior. I wrote a column where I recalled 285 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: how they would always put it like sat morose off 286 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: in the bottom six after being a first round pick 287 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety five, and all he learned to be 288 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: was the bottom six. 289 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: Well, that's true, and that certainly did happen to Moros 290 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: of I would suggest on one level, I think the 291 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: game has changed a little bit and that I don't 292 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: know the third line guys in this era necessarily play 293 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: the way they did back then. But I do think 294 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: that having him receive an upgrade in line mates is 295 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: really important, whether it's the second line or third line 296 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: or whatever line he is on. Like, I don't think 297 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: playing with Tommy Noback all season is a very good idea. 298 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: I don't see that that helps him now if he's 299 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: on the line with you know, Rutger McGroarty on the 300 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: third line and then you know, maybe coyven and comes 301 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: back up or whatever, and now that might be different. 302 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: So I don't necessarily mind him being in a quote 303 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: unquote bottom six role. It's more about who he's playing 304 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: with in my opinion. But I will say from the 305 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: Penguins standpoint, Mark there's something special about this kid, Like 306 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 3: it just clicked in the second week of training camp 307 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 3: and you could see it immediately, like he just became 308 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: a different player, and he's so cerebral. I'm pretty blown 309 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: away by what I've seen from him so far, even 310 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: though for sure you don't want him playing nine minutes 311 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: a night with bad line mates, so there's no doubt 312 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: about that. 313 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: Well, I want him playing on Sid's wing. 314 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: I want to at least try that because what I've 315 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: been most impressed about with Kindle is the way he 316 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: thinks the game, and I think it might be similar 317 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: to how Sid thinks the game. 318 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 5: It might be. 319 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: I would love to see it for a lot of reasons, 320 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: and one being as well as the Penguins are playing 321 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: right now. That top line actually isn't clicking at all. 322 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: It's not been particularly good, certainly not in the standards 323 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: were used to. And you might recall the very first 324 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: shift of the season when Kindle started on the line 325 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: with Crosby and Malkoam. There was only one shift for 326 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: sixty seconds, but it was unbelievable how good they look together. 327 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 3: And I think you're right. I just think he thinks 328 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: that game in an extraordinarily high That's why they drafted him. Mark. 329 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: I spoke with people in the organization the night of 330 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: the draft when the Penguins were getting roasted around the 331 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: league for, you know, allegedly reaching on this kid at eleven, 332 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 3: and numerous people told me that Wes Clark and Kyle 333 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: Dubas just think his hockey IQ is something completely different 334 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 3: than what they've seen, and nobody else in the draft 335 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 3: had it, and they were just hell bent on making 336 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 3: him their guy. You can see why if you pay 337 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: attention to him. 338 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: Play is Gino start for real? 339 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: Ten points in seven games, and we should keep in 340 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: mind he had a similar start last year. 341 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: Didn't he. 342 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean sure, it's for real, It's not that 343 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 3: he's not playing well, he's playing great. I don't think 344 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: he can sustain it for eighty two games. And that's 345 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: not a knock on him, That's just what happens when 346 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 3: you're that age. He's going to hit a wall, like 347 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: I do think that you know, happened three weeks after 348 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 3: when the Olympic break could really help him down the road. 349 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 3: You get that much time off that certainly should refresh him. 350 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: That he's playing really well. I give him credit. He 351 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 3: has eliminated not all of the bad habits in his game, 352 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 3: but certainly some. And he's playing a smarter brand of hockey. 353 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 3: And I just think he's got more jump than we've 354 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 3: seen from him in a really long time. I think 355 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 3: he's motivated. Mark. My sense is he knows this might 356 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: be his last season with the Penguins. I've reported that 357 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: they are not going to give him a new contract. 358 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 3: That certainly was the plan as of this past summer. 359 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: And you know, I think there's a part of him 360 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: that's a little defiant about that and wants to hang 361 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 3: around longer. And I mean, to his credit, he. 362 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,479 Speaker 1: Also put it out there, Josh than it was going 363 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 1: to be his last season. 364 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 3: Oh, he talks about it a lot. I mean, he's 365 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: pretty open about how it could be and he's just 366 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 3: trying to enjoy it and it could be if it 367 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 3: is his last season. You know, he just wants people 368 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 3: to remember him a certain way and doesn't want to 369 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 3: embarrass himself out the door and whatever the case may be. Listen, 370 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 3: he's played really well and that second line has been outstanding. 371 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: I give him credit, but I will caution people. He 372 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 3: did this in October last year and he certainly did 373 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 3: fade after that, so we'll monitor how that goes. But 374 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 3: I'm most in high marks to him. He's playing great hockey. 375 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: We're talking to Josh Elway of the Athletic here on 376 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: the Mark Madden Show. Josh is up justin Brazo the 377 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: New War and Young five goals in seven games. 378 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 3: He's interesting. I mean, the thing about him, like, when 379 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 3: you watch him play, you can't deny that he has 380 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: a good pair of hands. At least he has the 381 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: last two weeks. I mean, he makes plays every game 382 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: with his hands and get your attention. He can't really skate, 383 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 3: and then that's probably going to become an issue at 384 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: some point. But when you're that big and your hands 385 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 3: are that good, you should be good for something, right, 386 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 3: And as I'm sure you've brought up on your show, 387 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: the fact is, and again I'm not expecting him to 388 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 3: maintain this pace, but the fact is, he did score 389 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: sixty one goals in a junior season once. No, that's 390 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: a high number, even for junior hockey. There's a lot 391 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 3: of star players have never scored sixty one goals in 392 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 3: one season in junior, so that there's something there. And 393 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: obviously he's colicking with Malk and Manta right now. I 394 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 3: don't imagine he'll maintain this pacemlist. And if he's worth 395 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 3: fifteen or twenty goals like that's a huge win. Nobody 396 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 3: thought that was going to be the case when they 397 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 3: signed him this summer. That's for sure. To me. 398 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: The catalyst for this good start is Dan mused, a 399 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: new coach, Josh. The structures there and the hole is 400 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: greater than the some of the parts they're five and 401 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: two with. I believe not very many guys playing particularly great. 402 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the energy that a team can get 403 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: from a new coach is on display. I also think 404 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: he's done a really nice job. I think it's a 405 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 3: combination of those two. Everybody's impressed with him. I was 406 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: at Paul Maurice's press conference this morning in Florida, and 407 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: he just went on and on about how the Penguins 408 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: have taken the stretch passes out of their game and 409 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: how much more impressive they look, and how much they're 410 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 3: playing as a unit now compared to previous seasons. I 411 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: don't think he meant it as a backhandada shot at 412 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: Mike Sullivan. It almost came across that way. No, he's 413 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: really impressed with Dan Muse. He's probably the best coach 414 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: of the game right now. No, that they're just playing 415 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 3: collectively more as a team. You're seeing more structure, more 416 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 3: attention played to the defensive zone. The old guys are 417 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 3: playing while the young guys are playing. Well, everything they're 418 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: doing right now is a credit to Dan Muse. 419 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: Now, I mentioned earlier than I would at least give 420 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: Kindle a try with Sid, and I say that acknowledging 421 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: he's probably a better center than a wing. 422 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: But I tried, that's what this season's for. 423 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 2: And I got to add to that, Rust and Sid 424 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 2: aren't clicking really, the first time I've seen them play 425 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 2: together where there's just zero spark. 426 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, something really seems off of that top line. Russ 427 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: seems like he has his legs. I don't think there's 428 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: an issue with his skating. Doesn't look old all of 429 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: a sudden or anything, but the top line's not clicking now. 430 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 3: I will say, you know, we talked about Geno and 431 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 3: having a couple of great Octobers and how he faded. 432 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: I've also seen from Sid the last few years he's 433 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: usually not quite as dominant in October or November. It 434 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 3: takes him a while, and then usually around the holidays 435 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 3: is when he starts to heat up, and he stays 436 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 3: hot for the whole season. So some of it might 437 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 3: be on him. I don't think he's been at his best, 438 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 3: even though his point totals are fine and he's got 439 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 3: a goal in three straight games. He had a couple 440 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: of games where he definitely looked a little bit off 441 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: to me. But no, the top line hasn't been especially good. 442 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 3: They have a lot of things they could do. They 443 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 3: could take Raquel off of that line to remember, like 444 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 3: they've played him at center a lot in the preseason. 445 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: That was the plan for Raquel to be the third 446 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: line center to start the season, which seems crazy, but 447 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 3: that that was the plan. Maybe they try that and 448 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 3: slide Kendall off with Crosby and Russ at some point. 449 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 3: It's not a bad idea, mark because when you watch 450 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 3: Kendall play, you kind of feel like, boy, he's making 451 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: so many good plays every night, and he's just not 452 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 3: playing Oh Josh. 453 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 1: Power play too. He has better power play or rust. 454 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, the power I know the power plays scored a 455 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: couple of goals. Yeah, I think it was the second 456 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 3: power play really, but I would love to see Kendall 457 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 3: on the power play. You could just see he has 458 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: a feel for and watching him in practice on the 459 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 3: second unit, oh, his touch with the pocket and his 460 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 3: decision making. This is not your typical eighteen year old. 461 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 3: And I'm sure we're not going to see it until 462 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 3: the Penguin's go into a little bit of a losing skit, 463 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 3: and I'm sure you'll see a bunch of changes. Then 464 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: that's the way it goes. But I would love to 465 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: see him on that Top power play. I don't like 466 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: the Top power Play right now for a number of reasons. 467 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: And we've seen over time the five guys on it 468 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: right now, they're all really good players. But that that 469 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: mix doesn't really work on the power play as much 470 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 3: as it once did. I would love to see Kendall 471 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: get a look up there. 472 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 2: Well, I'm destoryed that the winning is going to derail 473 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 2: what they should be doing, because my top six would 474 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: be Crosby, Mokin, Raquel, Russ, Kendall and Cliven in the 475 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: cons and Wilkes. And the more they win, the more 476 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 2: they're going to be sold on Braso and Manta. 477 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 3: He might be right about that, and you know, Coiven 478 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 3: And I'm sure will be up before too much longer. 479 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: And mc gourney deserves in that mix as well. 480 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 3: Sure, And it was obvious to me that coyven And 481 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 3: didn't look real comfortable playing with sin and it's not 482 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 3: easy to play with it, but he needs to be 483 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 3: up in the NHL at some point. This is a 484 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: really good hockey player and that might become the most 485 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 3: interesting subplot of this whole season, like what if they 486 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 3: keep winning like this Mark? Or what does damn Muse do? 487 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 3: More importantly, what does Kyle Dubas do? Because they know 488 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 3: this isn't some championship team. But I understand not wanting 489 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: to derail a team that's winning too on the object 490 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: still to win hockey games. For a hockey coach, I 491 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: get it, it's a it's a tough situation, but I 492 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 3: think it's up to Kyle Dubas to stay disciplined. I've 493 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 3: had all these people ask me, you know what, if 494 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 3: they keep winning, will they will they add to this roster, 495 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 3: and I said, no, they shouldn't and I don't think 496 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: they will. 497 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: They got no assets to trade anyway. 498 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 3: Right, And it's you know, you have to keep your 499 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: eyes on the right for sure, But I I can't 500 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 3: deny even though it's only been seven games and who 501 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: knows what will happen. I still don't think this team 502 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: is especially good, but I will say that they have 503 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 3: performed at a much higher level than I was anticipating. 504 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 2: And I got to say, even though I hope he's 505 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: not in the top six for very much longer, and 506 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: even on the team come the trade deadline, because he's 507 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 2: a guy, a good trade. 508 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: I don't hate Nantha. 509 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 2: If you knee is okay after the surgery, I will 510 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: say he gets to the net like that goal on 511 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 2: Tuesday against Vancouver. We would go months the last couple 512 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: of years with not seeing a goal. 513 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: Like that if he keeps going to the net like that, 514 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 3: he will score goals on this team. It's not like 515 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 3: he doesn't have the talent. He's an interesting guy because 516 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 3: he's never really panned out the way because some thought 517 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: he was going to be a real star. We see 518 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 3: the hands that he has and how big he is, 519 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 3: you can see why. And he's always been a good player, 520 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 3: never really became a great player the way people were hoping. 521 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 3: But no, I mean that that whole line is going 522 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 3: to the net, and that's what they should be doing. 523 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: They're not going to score on the rush all that often. 524 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 3: But when you got three guys that size, that's something 525 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 3: to Penguins. I don't remember the last time. I don't 526 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 3: know if they've never had a line that big and 527 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,479 Speaker 3: no Manta can play and if nothing less, you know, 528 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 3: I hate to bring this up already in October, but 529 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 3: if Mantha plays well, he certainly would be a nice 530 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 3: trade piece at the deadline if you want to get 531 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 3: even more assets. Then that's why this whole season could 532 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 3: be really interesting to see how Dubas handles it, because 533 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: we know he's still thinking about the future, as he should. 534 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 3: But if this team exceeds expectations. Yeah, things get a 535 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 3: little uncomfortable. 536 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: I think for Dubis, which defensemen are good and which 537 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: one suck. 538 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: Well. I think Bruno's really good. He still makes mistakes 539 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 3: every night that a teenager will make in the NHL. 540 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: I think he has real All Star potential too. And 541 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 3: I'll tell you Carlson doesn't suck right now, Like he'll 542 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: still do things that'll drive you nuts. But this is 543 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: a much more composed version of him. 544 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but for reasons I hate. He's just trying to 545 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: impress Sweden. He's pissed because he wasn't one of the 546 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: top six named for their Olympic team. 547 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 3: Probably, but he's not killing them right now. 548 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: You know. 549 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: I hold chrys Latang in the highest of regards, but 550 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 3: I think he's really struggling right now. He was better 551 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: against Vancouver. That was his best game, but that. 552 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: Was first game of the year. I thought it was. 553 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 3: I mean, hopefully that's the side of things to come, 554 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: because on that California road trip he was so bad. 555 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 3: Like I've had people in the organization privately tell me 556 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 3: in the last couple of weeks that they're just kind 557 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 3: of worried about him. They hope this isn't like who 558 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: he is at the stage because they don't like his 559 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: game at all. It's been a real problem. I have 560 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: always said the Penguins go as he goes, and I 561 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 3: still think that's the case. He's still on the ice 562 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: twenty minute to night that they need him to be better. 563 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: Hopefully Vancouver was a step in the direction. I'll tell 564 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 3: you one guy that's impressed me. Mark He's a total journeyman, 565 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 3: I realized. But Parker Walershman's actually. 566 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: Been really good. 567 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 3: Like he and Carlson click for whatever reason. I don't 568 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 3: know that he'll maintain it. We will see. But he 569 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 3: had the one, you know mishap in Anaheim that costs 570 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 3: in the game and they flipped the puck over the glass, 571 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 3: but he really pounced back nicely. He's been a nice 572 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 3: addition for them. 573 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: Is the goaltending okay, because I refuse to believe it. 574 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 3: I think they're off to a pretty good start. I 575 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 3: don't think i'd label it as okay. I have to 576 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 3: give Jarry some credit. I thought he was completely done 577 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 3: last season, and I still think they would trade him 578 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 3: in a heartbeat if they could, as it should. But 579 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: you know, he was good in that stretch in March 580 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 3: in April at the end of last year, and he's 581 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 3: kind of picked up where he left off. He's going 582 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: to play tonight and he's been pretty dark good so far, 583 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 3: and she loves is an interesting guy. I think he 584 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 3: has a lot of talent, and they've both helped the 585 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 3: Penguins a lot more than they have hurt so far. 586 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: We all know the guy in the future is the 587 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 3: one played in Boltsbury, and he's off to a phenomenal 588 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: start in the AHL by the way, as we kind 589 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 3: of expected. But so far, so good. And I think 590 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 3: the fact that the Penguins aren't giving up thirty two 591 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 3: on ones a night is certainly aiding the goaltending as well. 592 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: It wouldn't shot me if they beat Florida tonight. Florida's 593 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: banged up. 594 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: Could Chuck got barkop on a couple other guys out 595 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: more short term, they already looked tired in October after 596 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: three straight Stanley Cup Finals. 597 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: What if you beat them and you're six and two, oh. 598 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: And they're vulnerable. This is their first home game after 599 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 3: a very long road trip. They had the emotional night 600 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: in Boston the other night. Paul Maurice actually said before 601 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: the game, this is a tough one. We've only been 602 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 3: home for thirty six hours. We've got to play another 603 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 3: game after a long trip. They're vulnerable. Their two thos 604 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: forwards are out. They're not playing very well. Dobrowski's playing, 605 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 3: but he's never really bothered the Penguins all that much. 606 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 3: They don't mind playing against him, and they usually play 607 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: well in this building in Florida, even in their worst teams. 608 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 3: In Florida's best teams are usually very competitive, tight games. 609 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: This is a great chance to get to them. And 610 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: the schedule is kind of nice right now. You get 611 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 3: Columbus at home on Saturday, that's not terrible. Then you 612 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 3: got Saint Louis and Philly, both of them are off 613 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 3: the slow starts. After that, it's a really soft schedule 614 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: right now for the Penguins, and no what if they're 615 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 3: you know, eight three and one through twelve games or something. 616 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 3: It's completely feasible and I don't know how that changes things, 617 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 3: but in the short term it's fun. There's a little 618 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 3: bit of a buzz around this team, which we haven't 619 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 3: seen in a while. But if you're keeping your eyes 620 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 3: on the prize, down the road. It kind of makes 621 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: the waters a little muddy right now. It's just going 622 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: to be interesting to see the way Kyle chooses to 623 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 3: deal with this, because I don't think anybody thought this 624 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: team would be playing this well in October. I don't 625 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 3: think a month ago anybody was really expecting this. 626 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: Finally, Josh, we got the Penguins Hall of Fame Saturday. 627 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: EJ's on the show at four o'clock. Artie was on yesterday. 628 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: What a great group do when Duck Scotti, e J 629 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: Arty and Ronnie Francis. What a foursome. 630 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really excited for Saturday night. Just you know, 631 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 3: I grew up in the eighties and nineties watching people 632 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 3: like Artie and ron Francis and having, you know, getting 633 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: to know those guys. There are such incredible people I 634 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 3: consider already a friend. I really have a great with him. Truly, 635 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life. 636 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 3: He really is. And I also think it's really cool 637 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: that the Penguins are honoring you know, Scotty Bowman was 638 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 3: in his nineties now EJ turns ninety next month. These 639 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 3: are real, real life hockey legends who have meant an 640 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 3: awful lot to the Penguins organization, so it's really going 641 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 3: to be a special night Saturday. I can't wait to 642 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 3: see it. 643 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: Josh, great stuff. We'll see you there all right, Mark, 644 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: you got it. 645 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: That's Josh Joey of the Athletic Got ej at four o'clock, 646 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: Mark Madden one oh five nine. 647 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 4: It's still a woody show weekday mornings at six oh 648 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 4: I like it on one five the X. This Halloween season, 649 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 4: the only thing scarier than ghosts and goblins is missing 650 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 4: out on a deal from Mike