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Speaker 1: The Steelers are looking for coach, but they're looking for

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Speaker 1: quarterback too. Joining us now to discuss the former quarterback

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Speaker 1: for the Steelers. He does a podcast with Trey Essex

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Speaker 1: and he does the postgame show for Steelers games on DVE.

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Speaker 1: It's Charlie Batch. Charlie, we'll talk about the coach in

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Speaker 1: a minute. Who's going to be the quarterback next season?

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Speaker 1: Because without Tomlin, Rogers is certainly out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I would agree with that as well. And obviously you

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Speaker 3: heard his comments when he said I'm only here because

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Speaker 3: of Mike, So I think ultimately when you look at this,

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Speaker 3: you know, I would have to guess that Will Howard

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Speaker 3: way of the pole position, only because the Steelers organization

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Speaker 3: have showed Mason Rudolph exactly what they felt about him,

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Speaker 3: because they never gave him the opportunity to be that

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Speaker 3: new people in. So this was taking a point out,

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Speaker 3: say Will Howard, but have they seen enough of him

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Speaker 3: to now give him full reigns of what's getting ready

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Speaker 3: to happen here in the twenty twenty sixteen Then I.

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Speaker 1: Mixed emotions about that, Charlie, I for sure would give

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Speaker 1: Howard a big look at training camp because, as we

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Speaker 1: know last season he was hurt and couldn't play any

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Speaker 1: snaps in the preseason. I'd keep Mason Rudolph. He's on

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Speaker 1: another year left in his contract. And I don't figure

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Speaker 1: they draft the quarterback in the first round this year

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Speaker 1: because that big quarterback class fell apart. The Steelers won't

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Speaker 1: be drafting early enough to get a Mendoza or whoever.

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Speaker 1: But one that I don't want is to recycle an

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Speaker 1: old guy again. How do you feel about that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's going to be interesting to see because we

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Speaker 3: don't know exactly who all is going to be available

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Speaker 3: as it relates to free agents and the elder spokesman

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Speaker 3: of the quarterback position. And then ultimately, when we talked

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Speaker 3: about the draft and everybody got excited before the season,

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Speaker 3: started compiling all of these draft picks because of what

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Speaker 3: So I think this pickings are slimmed at this particular point.

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Speaker 1: One name that intrigues me going to be a free

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Speaker 1: agent Malik Willis Scott drafted in the third round in

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Speaker 1: in the first round. What's your take on him? Should

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Speaker 3: Christ think coming here? Obviously money speaks over anything at

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Speaker 3: this particular point, and he's waiting for another opportunity to

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Speaker 3: But I think the important decision is going to be

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Speaker 3: what does the offensive system look like if he does

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Speaker 3: come to Pittsburgh. And I think we're all trying to

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Speaker 3: figure that out, and it's not going to be answered

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Speaker 3: a little bit a while, but it has to really

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Speaker 3: be on an expedited learning curve only because we're getting

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Speaker 3: we're approaching the All Star Games that are currently happening now,

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Charlie, at one point I would

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Speaker 1: have said that I'd never consider Will Howard, but this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm giving up on Will Howard by any means.

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Speaker 3: Before he got injured, he was actually having a really

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Speaker 3: You don't see him because we probably would have saw

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Speaker 3: That didn't happen. He went on injured reserve, and then

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Speaker 3: it's very similar to what Minnesota did. They didn't want

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Speaker 1: McCarthy, of course, being a first round pick. And like

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Speaker 1: Charlie Batch, brought to us by eighty four lumber Dynasty

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin was, you know, the roster was configurated based

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Speaker 1: Who is your choice to replace some Charlie And obviously

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Speaker 1: we're both looking relatively speaking from afar, But who would

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Speaker 1: you pick and what type of coach.

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Speaker 4: For me?

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Speaker 3: I would you know? You can go both ways, right

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Speaker 3: But ultimately you can go two ways. You can go

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Speaker 3: What does the Rooney family think? And ultimately the person

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Speaker 5: Really, you think goldmore has more say than Art I Will.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying is he's going to work with the

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Speaker 3: why I say that relationship is going to be one

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Speaker 1: Now you said one thing, Troie hit the nail right

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Speaker 5: Go through that.

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Speaker 5: And that's how it should be, don't you think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it should be And even you know, and I

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Speaker 3: we see what we saw here nineteen years later. Now

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Speaker 1: In fact, Jerry Dulak reported that Charlie it's going to

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Speaker 3: know the rumies aren't comfortable with that coach you said,

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Speaker 1: Uh, aren't the second ones to contend every year? Is

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Speaker 1: Charlie, it was reportedly very emotional with the players, as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can understand the emotions. It was very

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Speaker 3: these decisions, ultimately, at some point will happen when you

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Speaker 3: That's just the reality of coaching.

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Speaker 5: Charlie, I have a vision.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of just seeing in my mind, Charlie Batch,

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Speaker 5: What do you think.

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Speaker 3: I'm going Let the organization wants me to help out

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Speaker 3: I've offered those services. So if there's anything that I

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Speaker 3: My phone lines are open and I am definitely open

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Speaker 3: for the opportunity. I would love this to discuss further.

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Speaker 1: There you go, I like it, Charlie thanks as always.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk again real soon. But great input.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: That's a great charge. But Charlie Batch but was by

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Speaker 1: eighty four lumber. Get your calls in now for calls

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Speaker 1: on the fifteens. Uh what Steelers player or players is

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Speaker 5: Tom and I talked earlier.

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Speaker 1: Got to be Pat freiermus what do you think and

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Speaker 1: We got mister Friday Afternoon at the bottom of the hour.

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Speaker 1: He went two and eleven last week. He's flirting with

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Speaker 5: I'm mart Man one oh five nine. The only show

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Speaker 1: Mister Friday Afternoon at the bottom of the eye. So

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Speaker 1: eleven last week. Okay, let's go to Sparky, Sparky, your

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Speaker 6: M Hey, Mark, what up?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 6: As far as the search goes, like, the bottom line

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Speaker 6: is this, the Rooneys are woke and they have two

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Speaker 6: This cana has to be some criterire number one. They

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Speaker 6: to be a minority.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that will be a determining factor.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I'm sure it won't, but it could be.

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Speaker 1: Well no that's not where it starts. You don't know that.

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Speaker 5: But it could be a tiebreaker, could be a tie breaker.

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Speaker 5: How do you know? Tell me, Sparky, tell me how

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Speaker 5: you know? Tell me how you know? They're looking specifically

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Speaker 6: Because I where they whatever they hired Tomlin. You think

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Speaker 5: Yeah we're not we're not talking. We're not talking about that,

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Speaker 5: and this is different. Ruines.

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Speaker 1: I'll make you a deal. I'll make you deal, Sparky.

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Speaker 1: Since you know so much, I'll bet you a thousand bucks.

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Speaker 1: It's not an African American.

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Speaker 1: I'll bet you a thousand bucks, it's not an African American.

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Speaker 1: Since you're spewing asinine idiocy, why don't you put your money,

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Speaker 1: which I dot you have much of where your big

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Speaker 5: You bring a grand in here. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 5: I'll bet fifteen hundred against your grand.

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Speaker 6: I'll put up two thousand against your fifteen hundred.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't have you wouldn't bring it? Tell you what?

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Speaker 5: Bring it here? We're in Bridgeville, easy to find where.

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Speaker 5: Bring it in here?

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Speaker 6: Bring it in in the ghetto in Bridgeville?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, you know what, I get accused of

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Speaker 1: and clear. But what do you mean ghetto in Bridgeville?

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Speaker 6: I said, what, they're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Go buy you piece of crap? You piece of crap

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Speaker 1: might be a tie breaker. Ain't gonna be the determining factor?

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Speaker 5: Was it? What Tomlin might have mattered? More? Then?

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Speaker 1: The Rudy rule was fresher. Let's go to Leo and

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Speaker 1: mount Levin and Leo. You're on with double.

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Speaker 2: M Hey, big sexy, Hey, just all us talk about

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Speaker 2: getting the quarterback right, which I don't argue, but don't

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Speaker 2: you feel like that could be the last piece of

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Speaker 1: No, no, it's not the last piece of the puzzle.

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Speaker 1: They could have good coaching, good culture. They thought they

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Speaker 1: they lied to themselves.

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Speaker 5: But they didn't have a good quarterback, and.

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Speaker 1: Not since Ben popped his elbow, maybe even a little

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but don't you think when Ben first came in

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna argue about you know, Ben in an

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Speaker 1: but none of it matters unless you do get the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to get the quarterback first. If that's

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Speaker 1: and to do that you need to get a better

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Speaker 1: Will Howard, I would not have a problem with that.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I would wallow in the glory of that

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Speaker 2: But if you got a good coaching staff, don't you

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Speaker 2: feel like the NFC North is still open to backing

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Speaker 1: The AFC North No, God, no, God no, they have

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Speaker 5: What are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have a healthy Burrow, presumably Cleveland's gonna be

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Speaker 5: Let's go to Matthew.

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Speaker 1: Matthew, you're on with double m.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Mark, I'm a big fan.

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Speaker 5: Thanks buddy and Mark.

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Speaker 7: I'm a big fan.

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Speaker 5: Hey, buddy, I want to talk.

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Speaker 7: I want to talk about the status and the happiest players.

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Speaker 7: The status probably half ear mouth because he can actually

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Speaker 1: Well he No, he's probably the happiest, buddy, because now

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Speaker 7: I think it's not a player. Probably a franchise, the

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Speaker 5: Well that's right.

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Speaker 1: They don't have tom Win to beat at home all

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Speaker 1: why I, buddy, think they should hire the architect of

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Speaker 1: that from Cleveland. Who got fired up there, Stefanski. Thanks

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Speaker 5: And Harmer? Seth? What's up?

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Speaker 2: Good day, sir?

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Speaker 5: I said, good day?

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Speaker 8: Kind of park question. Well, the first part is more

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Speaker 3: Right, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna do that, But uh, what

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Speaker 1: if Stefanski's name got added? Jerry Dulex says, there's three

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Speaker 1: we know about, and hey, I'd hire him.

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Speaker 5: I forget about interview. I just think he's the best candidate.

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Speaker 8: as he was. This guy's the same. But who do

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Speaker 8: you think the tiebreaker would come down to?

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Speaker 5: What do you mean.

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Speaker 8: As far as who they go?

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Speaker 5: Who the like final two or three candidates would be.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because, as I said with Charlie, a

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Speaker 5: Tomlin got the job in the interview.

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Speaker 1: If you made me pick a favorite from way far away,

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Speaker 1: way far away, it'd be Chris Shula. Even though like uh,

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Speaker 1: Tim Benn said he wasn't impressed by the Rams defense

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Speaker 1: this year. He is part of the Sean McVay coaching tree.

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Speaker 1: His last name Shula. A lot of things add up.

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Speaker 1: I might not agree, but but a lot of things

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Speaker 1: add up. I might not disagree either. Let's go to Ben.

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Speaker 9: How you doing there? Double Happy Friday and you uh

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Speaker 9: question about the uh taking a break from the Steelers

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Speaker 9: talk here for a second.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome.

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Speaker 9: Uh, the fourth line of the Penguins can what would

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Speaker 9: you compare them to the most recent in history that

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Speaker 9: has been as good and it solid and even as dominant.

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Speaker 5: Everybody everybody used to talk. They're not dominant, bro, let's not.

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Speaker 1: Let's not, you know, go overboard, but that the best

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Speaker 1: the best fourth line in recent history is that Islanders line.

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Speaker 1: They called it the identity line. That was who was

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Speaker 1: that Clutterbuck? And Sosekis and uh one other guy he

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Speaker 1: was kind of the meathead guy. Well, they were all meatheads.

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Speaker 1: Matt mart right, meethead meathead Matt Martin. And yeah, they

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Speaker 1: did pretty good. I mean I think they were overrated

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Speaker 1: and I think they played more than the fourth line,

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Speaker 1: which would make them the third line. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: do I think this line is better than that Islander's line?

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Speaker 5: No, I don't.

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Speaker 9: What about Penguin's fourth lines in your recent memory that's

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Speaker 9: been up the bar with this group, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't really remember fourth lines.

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Speaker 1: I mean the bottom six in the Lemeux cup era,

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Speaker 1: like with the Loneyes, the Borks, Trotier. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know specifically how those lines always fit together because

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Speaker 1: they switched them up a lot.

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Speaker 5: But put it this way, I can guarantee.

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Speaker 1: The fourth line of that group was better than the

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Speaker 1: fourth line of a Charie Doer and Lizatte.

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Speaker 5: No offense to them. Thank you for the call.

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Speaker 1: the crapper after a an eleven week last week, he

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Speaker 1: and fifty two. We welcome into the program to predict

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Speaker 1: the NFL's divisional round. He is, mister Friday Afternoon, MFA,

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Speaker 1: you screwed the pooch last week, didn't you?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 4: How did I go two and eleven? I actually I

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Speaker 4: actually were won two on my picks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but there was a ten point game because we

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Speaker 5: spun the wheel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's not fair. It should become of sometimes

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Speaker 4: like you randomly decided that that when we spun the

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Speaker 4: wheel that.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, that's not true.

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Speaker 1: You were at You were the one who demanded who

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Speaker 1: campaigned to spin the wheel.

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Speaker 5: So we did.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what I would question your versions of events, So

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Speaker 4: maybe we should talk to my fans to see what

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Speaker 4: they thought.

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Speaker 5: No, they think that you wanted to spin the wheel.

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Speaker 1: We did pick the fact spin the wheel and it

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Speaker 1: came up, but that the game was worth ten points

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Speaker 1: and that's how it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was worth still. But we already had

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Speaker 4: done the super collider.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and we we we assigned I forget if

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Speaker 1: it was the daily double with the super collider.

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Speaker 5: When we spun the wheel, it came up five five

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Speaker 5: times two is ten?

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Speaker 4: All right, look at us to the game.

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Speaker 5: Just you certainly can't deny that five times two is ten?

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Speaker 4: Is that common? Cory Common Corp Matthew I would argue that.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: I talked to HR and they said it's okay. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's go to the the the picks. You were picking

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Speaker 1: all four Have you been informed that all four games

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Speaker 1: all four divisional games.

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Speaker 4: I got a text like two minutes before we came

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Speaker 4: on that I'm having to pick all four games. So

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Speaker 4: you appreciate contract because the contract explicitly states that if

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Speaker 4: there's going to be a change in the format, I

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Speaker 4: need to be I need to be a twenty four

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Speaker 4: hour notice.

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Speaker 5: No, I think it's contract right here.

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Speaker 1: It's paragraph B, section Rowman, numeral three, and it says

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Speaker 1: that in the event of a change in format, you

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Speaker 1: must get at least two seconds notice.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna talk to HR about that.

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Speaker 5: I already did.

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Speaker 1: They said it's okay, okay, So let's move to the games.

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Speaker 1: Let's go first to the Bills and the Broncos. I

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Speaker 1: see that as a highlight game. I'm a little surprised

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Speaker 1: that Denver is favored. I know it's at Denver. I

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Speaker 1: know the Bills aren't very good except for Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: But they got Josh Allen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and but Josh Allen's boogeyman. This year has been

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Speaker 4: a pass rush. I think in the four games, the

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Speaker 4: four best. So she's face. He hasn't even thrown for

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Speaker 4: two hundred yards. He's had trouble. This is a this

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Speaker 4: is a revenge game. Revenga because Denver blew out a

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Speaker 4: Buffalo blew out Denver.

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Speaker 1: Another reference to to scarface.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's a revenge game.

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Speaker 1: You do know that Rebenga isn't Spanish for revenge.

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Speaker 5: That was the name of the guy they killed.

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Speaker 4: Benga. But I'm saying he's the v some people know

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Speaker 4: we're starting.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so what's your pick?

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Speaker 2: One?

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Speaker 4: One?

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Speaker 1: Now your phone is failing, your phone's rotten, like we

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Speaker 1: can't you just screw this up worse every week.

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Speaker 4: Can you hear me? Now?

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Speaker 5: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: I can hear you, yes, let me let me test

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Speaker 1: in three two one Benga.

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Speaker 4: I can hear very clearly.

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Speaker 5: Okay, go ahead, Bill's and Broncos.

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Speaker 4: Broncos minus one and a half. Bro Bubbleto wasn't that

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Speaker 4: good this year just because they won a playoff game

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Speaker 4: against Jacksonville as to make them any better. Denver's the

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Speaker 4: number one team in the conference and better. Coach On

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Speaker 4: Payton's excellent. It's a revenge game, but a Benga. So

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Speaker 4: we're gonna take Denver in the minus one and a half.

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Speaker 1: Police quit saying Rebenga. Okay, forty nine Ers and Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers are seven point hunderdogs in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a pretty big number for a pretty good

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Speaker 1: team to be the underdog.

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Speaker 4: Yes, too much. They've been. They've They've dealt with enders

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Speaker 4: the entire year. I mean, they lost Kidd last week,

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Speaker 4: but they've been next man up for Joe Frank's fourteen weeks.

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Speaker 4: The main key to this of all the injuries that

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Speaker 4: they've had, Okay, their offensive sputter. When Trent Williams is out. Okay,

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Speaker 4: he's back, okay, and he looked he's played pretty good

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Speaker 4: last week. They're probably gonna lose the game, okay, because

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Speaker 4: it's very hard when you have this many injuries to

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Speaker 4: beat a team as good as Seattle as assisily that defense.

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Speaker 4: But they're gonna keep it close. Seattle WI win the game,

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Speaker 4: they won't win it by more than seven. San Francisco

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Speaker 4: plus seven is a play.

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Speaker 5: Okay, let's go now. And by the way, your picks

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Speaker 5: are very well thought.

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Speaker 1: Oh that doesn't mean they won't fail miserably as they

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Speaker 1: usually do, but you're at least giving a good accounting

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Speaker 1: for yourself and providing I hang on, I wouldn't say

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Speaker 1: a radio bit decent radio, Okay.

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Speaker 4: But what we've done here is you've decided that we've

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Speaker 4: got an order. You have not asked me to pick

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Speaker 4: a lock or the daily double, right.

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Speaker 5: Because we changed four.

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Speaker 1: You you got to call about that. Two seconds before

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Speaker 1: you went on, you said so yourself will.

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Speaker 4: Need to pick all four games.

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Speaker 5: Yes, you just thought we will.

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Speaker 1: Well, the lock doesn't matter because it doesn't change the

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Speaker 1: value of the game, and we will go back and

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Speaker 1: designate the lock and the daily double afterwards.

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Speaker 5: All with the super Collider, and for that matter, which

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Speaker 5: and we spin.

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Speaker 1: The wheel for because we are spinning the wheel. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if there is nothing you can say that's not me

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Speaker 1: from spinning that wheel, Okay.

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Speaker 4: That's not at all. I forgot. I forgot, I forgot

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Speaker 4: to mention. Okay, because the San Francisco got deep that

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Speaker 4: this is also.

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Speaker 5: Your your phone's just just just going out.

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Speaker 1: Then remind us San Francisco plus seven. Okay, the next game,

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Speaker 1: and we are going in order, because that's the way

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Speaker 1: we do it is uh, Houston who eliminated the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: who you hate. So at least the Steelers are out,

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Speaker 1: which you're very happy about because you hate them. They

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Speaker 1: are at New England, Houston a three point underdog. You

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Speaker 1: must be really happy. I want to hate the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't hate the Steelers. But don't buy this,

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Speaker 4: uh this this narrative that Harba sided with the Giants

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Speaker 4: because I went back and I talked to my sources.

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Speaker 4: Even after the Steeler lost, they say still that Tomlin

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Speaker 4: is going to go be coaching Baltimore and the Harbor

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Speaker 4: will be coming to coach Steelers. Those are my sources.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Harbaugh has already been hired to coach the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants.

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Speaker 4: You idiot, it's not I don't think the inks the

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Speaker 4: Incas hasn't dried on the contract yet, so that's not

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Speaker 4: a done deal. I will say this.

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Speaker 1: I saw him sign the contract. I'm pretty sure the

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Speaker 1: ink's dride. It's been like a day or so.

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Speaker 4: Well, contract is not ironclad.

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Speaker 1: Oh you might be onto something there. Okay, So anyway

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Speaker 1: we got we got, uh the Texans plus three against

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Speaker 1: New England.

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Speaker 5: Who do you got New England?

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Speaker 4: That Nicol Collins. That is huge because they don't have

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Speaker 4: enough offense to keep up. Both defenses are good. Here's

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Speaker 4: his defense is excellent those four but uh, Drake may

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Speaker 4: it's it's complete, like sixty seven percent of his passes

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Speaker 4: that there's a huge upgrade in offense Aty're playing against

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Speaker 4: the steel has had nothing newels the first superior offense.

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Speaker 4: The playing at home, it's gonna be cold, up.

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Speaker 5: Didn't have it was cold here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he fumbled and the strups fumbled five times, so

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Speaker 4: it's like, I don't know, he's he didn't play that well.

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Speaker 4: Drains of uh a better quarterback New England min the street.

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Speaker 4: The Nico Collinson is huge.

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Speaker 5: You can't he's not injured.

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Speaker 1: Joey Porter Junior just covered him so well, he's scared

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Speaker 1: to play this week.

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Speaker 5: I have that on fact.

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Speaker 4: Oh really I do. Okay, Well that's okay.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Rams and Bears. The Rams are

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00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: four and a half point underdogs. Excuse me, the Bears

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Speaker 1: are four and a half point underdogs at home against

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Speaker 1: the l A Rams. I got to tell you, MFA,

671
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: that line really shocked me.

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Speaker 4: I know, it shocks me that it's actually going up

673
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 4: because all everybody's talked about is how cold it is

674
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 4: going to be. And the Rams are eighty two degrees

675
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 4: in LA this week and it's going to be twenty

676
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 4: degrees below with the wind chill, and the Rams franchise

677
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Speaker 4: has never played in this kind of weather. It's like, dude,

678
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: nobody in this game is played this kind of weather. Okay,

679
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 4: So when you have a whole bunch of guys.

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Speaker 5: Big playoff game for the Bears.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how many games have they played this time

682
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: of year dating back?

683
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 4: How long It's been a while. So it's like, you

684
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 4: know another the world coach, you got a good coach,

685
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Speaker 4: but like that, it feels like last year week was

686
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: their super Bowl and like when that.

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Speaker 5: Happened, a revenge game.

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Speaker 4: You you no.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no more rebenga.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so the one thing that uh, you know you

691
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 4: you want you're a big soccer fan, Okay, when a

692
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 4: team has a huge win, like more often than not,

693
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 4: they always let down the next week. Okay, that was

694
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Speaker 4: like Chicago super Bowl last week. I think the Rams

695
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 4: aren't mission to the best team in football in my opinion,

696
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Speaker 4: and I'm just surprised because nobody is giving the Rams

697
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 4: any credit to win this. But the line keeps moving up.

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00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 4: It was three and a half, it's four and a half.

699
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 4: All the public is saying it's cold, and all the

700
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Speaker 4: people of all the pundits on the radio with.

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00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 5: Who do you got?

702
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 4: I had the Rams? Mine is four and a half.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now, which I bought your fans absolutely, what's good

704
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Speaker 1: to Mike?

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Speaker 5: Mike, you're on with m f A.

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Speaker 2: Hey, m f A, it's dump it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I can't believe you were accused of something so heinous,

708
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: but I believe it might have happened.

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00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 5: Well, no I don't.

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00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: For reasons we can't go into here because it slander.

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00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: Well we're libel, one of those. So anyway, Okay, let's

712
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Speaker 1: uh okay, here's the designations we're gonna use you Ready,

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Speaker 1: We've got.

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Speaker 5: The uh, the Daily Double. What would you like to designate?

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Speaker 4: Let's make that the last gave of the weekend. The Rams.

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Speaker 5: Okay, l a Rams minus four and a half. That

717
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Speaker 5: is the Daily Double.

718
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: Now it's time to pick the Super Collider, and.

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Speaker 5: That is my pick.

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Speaker 1: Since you hate the Steelers, I'm going to put it

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Speaker 1: in the game with the team that involves that eliminated

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, and that is the Houston game, the Houston

723
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Speaker 1: New England game. You're picking New England minus three. That

724
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: is the Super Collider. Now I would like to christen

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00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: a new feature.

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00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 5: Are you ready for this?

727
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 4: If it's legal?

728
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 5: We what do you mean legal? Of course it's legal.

729
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 4: This is just a stupid subject. So if you're introducing

730
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Speaker 4: something that notified, but you're just splinging on me.

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Speaker 1: Here, we notified your attorney two seconds before the segment started.

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Speaker 1: Did he talk to hr Yeah, they said it was okay, okay.

733
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Speaker 5: Okay, this will this will double the value of another game.

734
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 5: Are you ready? M it's the Revenge game that was

735
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Speaker 5: the short version, but in stort of a bang up. Okay,

736
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Speaker 5: so the revenge the Revenge game.

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Speaker 1: The Revenge game will be San Francisco plus seven. I'm

738
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: not sure why that's the Revenge game, but we'll go.

739
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 4: Okay, that sounds good.

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00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 5: Okay, and that's time to spin the wheel. Are you

741
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 5: ready for that?

742
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna let you pick. I'm going to be

743
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: a sport. What game would you like to designate that

744
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: we spin the wheel for?

745
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 4: Which might as we might as well make it the

746
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: Denver Game?

747
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 5: Okay.

748
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: I mean I would have picked one of the other

749
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: games because then the value could go even way up.

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Speaker 5: But that's good by me.

751
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 4: I don't even know. I don't even know what the values.

752
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 5: Are, well, the point value, what are.

753
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 4: The values on the wheel?

754
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 5: The point value.

755
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: Will either increase by two, five, or ten, and there's

756
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: one special slot that increases by twenty five.

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00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, you're ready for the Denver game? Right, let's

758
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 5: spin the wheel.

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00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: Just miss the twenty five the value hasn't increased again

760
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: like last week by five.

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00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 4: All right, so let's recap what we have here.

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00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: Okay, Denver minus one and a half is worth five

763
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: points because we spun the wheel. San Francisco plus seven

764
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 1: is two points because it's a revenge game. New England

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00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: minus three is the super collider work two points. In

766
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: the La Rams game, you took the Rams minus four

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00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: and a half. That is the daily double.

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Speaker 4: And I just to reiterate all these picks, have it

769
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: made with zero doubts.

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Speaker 5: Thank you MFA.

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Speaker 1: Now it's time to ask Mark anything A three three

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Speaker 1: four one two wxdx A three three four one two

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Speaker 1: w xdx, or you can leave a talk back via

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Speaker 1: the microphone icon on the iHeartMedia app. And at the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour, we got the list, and we

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Speaker 1: got Columbus Blue Jackets color man Jody Shelley because the

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Speaker 1: Jackets are in town tomorrow to play the Penguins one

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Speaker 1: oh five nine.

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow nights, the Pens take on the Blue Jackets.

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Speaker 5: Game time is seven. Our coverage starts at six here

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Speaker 5: every game, and the best coverage right here on your

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Speaker 5: home of the Pens one five nine DX at Kenny Rossbord.

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Speaker 5: We've always served our neighbors by offering the best value

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Speaker 5: on new Ford.

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Speaker 1: Models while supplies last current escape lessies can.

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Speaker 5: Drive a twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Escape Dusty Road demican Dream, So be a Baby X.

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Speaker 3: At one oh five nine.

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Speaker 5: Somebody on the B team tweeted something I agree with.

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Speaker 1: Actually, Joe Starkey, who joins me now as a columnist

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Speaker 1: for the Trip after.

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Speaker 5: Moving O from to PG.

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Speaker 1: He says, something seems weird about Tom was abrupt departure,

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00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: and it seems odd too that he didn't really say goodbye. Yeah,

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00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: really does Doesn't it time to ask Mark anything? Brought

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Speaker 1: to us by people's hyphengas dot com. What's going to Evan?

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00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 5: Evan? You're on with double.

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Speaker 1: M Okay, Evan wasn't ready.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to Ricky. Ricky ask Mark anything?

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Speaker 6: Hey, Mark, I got a kiss question for you, Okay.

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00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: I've been noticing that Gene Simmons has.

802
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 6: Been taking some jabs at days and Peter lately.

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00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he almost made fun pretty close of the

804
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: way Peter died falling and then he said Peter didn't

805
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: really write Beth. I mean why not just shut up?

806
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: I mean why be a dink. Your band's done. You

807
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: did great, Shut the freak up and let the other

808
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: guys have what they got and show some respect, because,

809
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: let me tell you, Kiss originally would not have made

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00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: it without without Peter and Ace.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 6: I agree with you on that, and that's what I

813
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 6: was just about to ask. If you feel like as

814
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 6: though that the four members they never really truly reconciled

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00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 6: or made a mess.

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00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: No, they never really truly did. I think they got

817
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: back together to make money. But I don't think Gene

818
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: and Gene and Paul ever respected Ason Peter, and I

819
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: don't think Ason Peter ever liked Gene and Paul, and

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00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: I don't blame Ason Peter.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to the talkback.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Mark, my question is do you think is Stefanski

823
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: doesn't get picked up by anybody? If Steelers would hire

824
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: him on as a coordinator, He's going to get hired

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00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: by somebody. He absolutely will be a head coach in

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00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: the league. I would have taken him over Harbaugh, but

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Speaker 1: now with Harbaugh having signed with the New York Giants

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Speaker 1: taking that job, Stefanski's the number one guy out there,

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Speaker 1: and I think to a lot of teams up next

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to Jody Shelley. Columbus visiting Pittsburgh tomorrow

831
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Speaker 1: night NHL actione X Columbus Blue Jackets and tom tomorrow

832
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: night to play against the Penguins at PPG Paints Arena.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now is the Jackets TV analyst, former NHL player.

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Speaker 1: Always great to talk to, Jody Shelley, Jody, I'm looking

835
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: at the Eastern Conference standings packed from top to bottom.

836
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: Is there a legit great team in the entire conference?

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Speaker 2: You know what? First of all, thanks for having me on, Mark.

838
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna have to be a caller

839
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 2: to call in and getting ripped to get on your show.

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: We like you shall come on.

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Speaker 2: Is there a legit? I think Carolina is still Carolina.

843
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: You know, they still are that team that's that's just

844
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: hard to play against. But the answer for you, flat

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00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: out is no. There's a bunch of teams that are

846
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: very similar in the Eastern Conference. But Tampa right now

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00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: is making a pleasure. But I think that there's I

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Speaker 2: think there's a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of the same klambas that forty nine points currently seven

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00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: points out of a wild card. What's gone bad with

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00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: the Jackets. I thought you'd be maybe not a lot better.

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00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: Jodey have been a bit better, certainly.

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00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a funny year. I thought they would

854
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: have been better too. They've They've had players underachieve. Goaltending

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00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: has been good. But I just feel like they've made

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00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: some changes in the offseason, you know, some new players

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00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: in here, and then some of the injuries have hurt

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00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 2: them and some of the players have just been shocked

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00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: around little bit, the young players, especially Kant Johnson, Cole Cillinger.

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Speaker 2: You know, they've made a coaching change here. Obviously that's

861
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: settle things down a little bit, But it's just a

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00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: it's been a season where I think expectations might have

863
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 2: gotten to them a little bit. Last year there was none.

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00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: You know, they came in and dealt with an unthinkable

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Speaker 2: tragedy as a group and really bonded and and we're finding,

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00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: you know, ways to win games with you know, tucks

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00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: were going in and things were going right. And this

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Speaker 2: year they've fought it a little bit and I think

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Speaker 2: they're the expectations. They put a little pressure on this

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Speaker 2: group and they've kind of fallen into that category of

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00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 2: of how to get it done. And then the third

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00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: period blowing all the leads that they've done. It shows

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00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: a fragile team and a team that has lacked confidence.

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Speaker 1: I think that that Rick Bonus is gonna you know,

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00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: straighten some of that out though. I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 1: knocking Dean Evison, but Bonus is an old school coach

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Speaker 1: who kind of has a history of writing teams that

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Speaker 1: are struggling, doesn't.

879
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: He he does? And you know what else, he doesn't

880
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 2: need this job. He's retired. It's not like he's coaching

881
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: to get another job. So it's unique to get a

882
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: coach in that position where you know he's coming in

883
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: here to assess and help the Columbus Blue Jackets. He's

884
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 2: a tactician. I mean, he's been coaching for since the

885
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 2: early eighties. As a players coach, he's been around people

886
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 2: like Al Arbor. I mean, this guy has got so

887
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: much experienced, so much respect around the National Hockey League

888
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 2: that immediately we just feel the players a little more

889
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: tent of there's a little more a little more of

890
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: a game plan in place, and it's maybe it's a

891
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: refreshing change that they need it, but I think there's

892
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: more of a strategy with our COMPONUS two, and I

893
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: think you're right. I think he's One thing he does

894
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 2: very well is he's he can he can assess players,

895
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 2: put them in the right position, and then kind of

896
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: lift them up with positivity and man, that goes a

897
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: long way with these young players now. So I think

898
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: that's or I guess it did anytime. I love the

899
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: good pat on the back. Who doesn't, but you know,

900
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: he he's good at that, and I think that's important.

901
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: We're talking to Jody's Columbus Blue Jackets TV analyst. The

902
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: Jackets are and tom tomorrow night to play the Penguins.

903
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: I could talk all day about Zach Lrensky on defense.

904
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 5: Sall.

905
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: I think he's the best defenseman in the league. I

906
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: think he played for Marquee team. He might have won

907
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: at least one Norris and maybe multiple and he just

908
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: excels on both sides of the puck. I don't know

909
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: what you can add to that, but I love watching

910
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: the guy playing.

911
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watch him closely tomorrow night. He doesn't ever panic,

912
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: and you know it's it's unique. You'll see most of

913
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 2: the players, most of the defensemen that get the puck

914
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: in some situations under pressure they'll spit it somewhere, you

915
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: know what I mean, the right it's usually h it's

916
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: juerually somewhere that's not right. He'll never see him do that.

917
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: I mean, he's always got it out and I think

918
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: the greats in any sport have that, and I think

919
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: that's what you're seeing with him. It's just and he's

920
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 2: always just. I mean, he seems like his heart rate

921
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: is at probably ninety all the time, which is pretty low.

922
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: I think could even be lower. But he just is calm,

923
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 2: cool and collected, always has always has an out, always

924
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: makes the right play. I think that's what's so impressive

925
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: about him when you watch him closely. In his skating ability,

926
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: I find it unique because he's a big man. He's

927
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: naturally big and strong, and he's just got a powerful

928
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 2: stride that he just kind of cruises up the ice

929
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: but he's flying. When I see him at ice level,

930
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: it's it really stands out. So yeah, he's a fun

931
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: one to watch, and I agree with you one of

932
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: the best, if not the best, in the National Hockey League,

933
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: especially because he plays a lot of defensive minutes. He

934
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: does a lot of matchup the matchup game against the

935
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: top players of the opposition, and you know that takes

936
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: away from that offensive zone time. And I think macar

937
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: gets a lot of out there in Carolina or in

938
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 2: Colorado where he plays with Nate mc kinnon.

939
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: I love fan Tilly at center thirty points forty seven games,

940
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: plays a solid two hundred foot game show. But how

941
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: can he be more productive? I'm not saying he doesn't

942
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: put up enough numbers. I just think he could put

943
00:45:59,560 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: up better.

944
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: I think he's got to play more of his game.

945
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: You know, I think sometimes as a young sentiment, playing

946
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: with a guy like Marchenko who wants to puck in

947
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: certain areas, I think you worry about that sometimes too much.

948
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: You know, you get the puck and you think, to me,

949
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: he could play a little freer. I guess what I'm saying.

950
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: You know, there's a natural ability of a player that

951
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 2: can take the puck and do a lot of different things.

952
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: And sometimes I think he's he might feel pressure or

953
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: put pressure on himself to get the puck to Marchenko

954
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: and situations where maybe that's not available. So there's a

955
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: little more of his game where I think the game

956
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: could come his way, you know what I mean, Like

957
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: you you hear players say the game slowed down for me,

958
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: I think at times it does that for Adam. I

959
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: think right now is a time where, like he's a driver,

960
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,959
Speaker 2: when he has the pockey drives, he can push d back.

961
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: He's got the moves to take it wherever he wants.

962
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: But then when he looks for that option, sometimes he

963
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 2: optually pay isn't the right one, and it ends up

964
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: he's back in the neutral zone, at the defensive zone.

965
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: I think that's because he trying to force it too

966
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 2: much to Marchenko, who wants that puck in a certain area.

967
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: And I think if he can free up a little

968
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: bit and really just focus on his game, I think

969
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: he's got a level or two more to get to.

970
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 5: Even this season, I totally agree.

971
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: And you mentioned Marchenko, he's doing good seventeen goals, veron

972
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: Kov another Russian winger, sixteen goals. But what about the

973
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: Russian winger that got away shell You guys traded Chinikov

974
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh and he came in and started scoring three

975
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: goals in eight games. I mean, I don't know if it's

976
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: just a change of scenery. I certainly don't know if

977
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: it'll continue. But what's your take on Chinnikoff and what

978
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: he's done here so far.

979
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: I've always liked Chinnikoff. He's had a couple of bad

980
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: seasons with injuries and then with a new coach last year.

981
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: Didn't get on the right side of that coach, Dean Edison,

982
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: and couldn't get on the right side of him this year,

983
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: where he was a healthy scratch and he was playing

984
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: seven minutes a game and not on the power play.

985
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: And when you're a skilled player and he's you know,

986
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 2: he simply said, to his credit, I'm not a checker,

987
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: Like that's not how I play hockey. So he would

988
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 2: just when he was in the lineup, he would try

989
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: to get on the good side of the coach by

990
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: trying to be, you know, that player that would, you know,

991
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: be a good four check guy and be in the

992
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: right position defensively. But he wasn't playing hockey. He's got

993
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: excellent speed, as you guys have seen. I think he's

994
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: got to the hardest wrishout in the National Hockey League.

995
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: It was recorded at one hundred miles an hour three

996
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 2: years ago. When he went over to Finland, they had

997
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 2: this whole setup. I like him. He's got all the

998
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: skills and him with speed to receive a puck. He can,

999
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: he can drive and do anything with it. I think

1000
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: you got a good, a great prospect here. Remember he

1001
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 2: was the pick Yarmo Kecklin and made the draft where

1002
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: no one knew who was They were like, who's this guy?

1003
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: They had the analyst had to go with through all

1004
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: their papers. They had like twenty papers. They couldn't find

1005
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: this Cincote. He was hof to boy and no, he's

1006
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: a good one. He just needs ice time and some confidence.

1007
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: And you know he's here with one of the best

1008
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: Russian players we've ever seen him, Malkin. I saw the

1009
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 2: goal was out the other night where he picked up

1010
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: the puck from Malkin. Like these are good things for Chinikoff.

1011
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 2: I think it's a great pickup by the Pittsburgh Penguins.

1012
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: Penguins are really up and down, shall you seeing the

1013
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: streaks eight game losing streak, six game winning streak.

1014
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 5: How good are they really? Because I see.

1015
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: Them every game and I'm not sure I've figured it

1016
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:27,479
Speaker 1: out yet.

1017
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think they surprised the entire National

1018
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: Hockey League the way they came out this year. The pickups,

1019
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: the line of Manta being healthy with Brazo. I mean

1020
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: that's a big factor with Malkin Kindle coming in doing

1021
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: what he's doing. But it all comes down to goaltender.

1022
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: You can talk about a plan and say and look

1023
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: at the teams around the league that you think are

1024
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 2: doing well, but it all comes down to goaltending, especially

1025
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: on the penalty kill. You have to have that big

1026
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: savor two on the penalty kill. You have to have

1027
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: the confidence from a goaltender when you're not have your best,

1028
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: especially this season where it's a grind for every team.

1029
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: Goalie's got to play his card at the beginning of

1030
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: the game sometimes or the end to allow your team

1031
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 2: either to get your footing or say the bacon And

1032
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 2: I think that's what you're seeing like Buffalo to me,

1033
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: like they're getting some better goaltending, they're getting some confidence.

1034
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: I think Pittsford's good. I mean, I like where they're at.

1035
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: I like that they have the championship pedigree of course

1036
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,479
Speaker 2: of let Tang Malkin Crosby. I love how this room

1037
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 2: is handled and the excellence that they you know that

1038
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: they always provide to the room just by doing what

1039
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: they've done in career in their careers and and bring

1040
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: that to these new players that come in, and I'm

1041
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: cheering for them, not tomorro night. I'm with the Blue

1042
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 2: Jackets on the Blue Jackets bus right now, so I'm

1043
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 2: not going to be cheering for them more night. But

1044
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 2: I think they're right there with most of the East,

1045
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: you know, because everyone you look at it, the majority

1046
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: of teams in the East, it's the same story, inconsistency,

1047
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: there's wars throughout every team, there's disappointment throughout every team.

1048
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: From night to night or or week to week. There's

1049
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: the moments. But I think it's I think they're one

1050
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: of those teams that you know they're they're always hard

1051
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: to play against. For the Blue Jackets, they always find

1052
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: a way to get it done. And when they have

1053
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 2: a power play play like that, that's a whip weapon

1054
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: you have to stay away from.

1055
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 5: Shell great talking to you.

1056
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate your listenership to my show, which I understand

1057
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: is still alive and well, and we'll see it.

1058
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 5: Tomorrow at the game.

1059
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: We will, and there is a day I'm gonna call

1060
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: in just so you can rip me and call me

1061
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: an idiot. But thanks for having me on today. I

1062
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: appreciate it.

1063
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 5: I'm sure. I'm sure you never said anything stupid and

1064
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 5: we'll see you tomorrow night.

1065
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: Thanks Shelle, I see you, buddy. Bye.

1066
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 5: That's Jody Shelley.

1067
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,959
Speaker 1: I love all the Columbus media guys, radio and TV guys.

1068
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: Rather we got Mersy out there ex to the Penguins, Shelley,

1069
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: Bob mcgelligan will get him on next time.

1070
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 5: We got R. J Umberg.

1071
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: You're living in Columbus, former jacket, former flyer boo and

1072
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: of course a product of plump