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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm Lisa Fox and this is the iHeart So

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Speaker 1: Cal Show. I met Ed Peisner, who's the co founder

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Speaker 2: For Social Media Safety. I met Ed Hi Ed.

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Speaker 3: How are you, hi, Lisa? How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm so impressed by you. I met you

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Speaker 1: months ago at this big Boys and Girls Club event.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to our friends at the Boys and Girls

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Speaker 1: Club in West and Gabriel Valley in East Side. They

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Speaker 1: had a massive Kindness Is Free summit with about four

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Speaker 1: or five hundred kids out at the Panda Express headquarters.

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Speaker 1: And you were such an important part of our day,

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Speaker 1: empowering young people and teaching them about ways that they

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Speaker 1: can be stronger and kinder and tackle this crazy world

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Speaker 1: we all live in, especially when it comes to the

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Speaker 2: And boy, I.

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Speaker 1: Am not to age myself or you, but we didn't

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Speaker 1: grow up with this thank you back in the day.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it has its blessings, but boy, it has

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Speaker 1: its curses. And social media can be a very scary

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Speaker 2: People, really for all people.

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Speaker 1: But your company, your organization, which was started due to

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Speaker 1: a very personal thing that happened to you and your family.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're all about empowering people, on teaching people

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Speaker 1: the ways we can protect ourselves from the negatives of

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Speaker 1: social media in terms of cyber bullying, sexual harassment, maybe

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Speaker 1: the anxiety and depression that can come from negative comments

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Speaker 1: or people and your dms, like, a lot of negative

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Speaker 1: things can can happen because of the access we allow

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Speaker 1: on social media, and that's what you are here to

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Speaker 1: open people's eyes about and show how you can help

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Speaker 1: protect them or essentially how you can empower people to

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, exactly, you said it all right there. Yes,

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Speaker 3: we are a nonprofit. We've and if I could just

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Speaker 3: I'll get into the story if you'd like. We're a nonprofit.

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Speaker 3: We were found it eight years ago doing an incident

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Speaker 3: And at the time, my son was in the middle

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, kid, And you know, my knees got weak.

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Speaker 3: I ran to the ambulance and the paramedics were telling

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Speaker 3: Yeah, random, random, different school altogether. And what got to

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Speaker 3: They flew him to the Children's hospital, and God blessed

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Speaker 3: Children's Hospital. He was there for seven days in the ICU,

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Speaker 2: Say anger right now? I mean so much anger? Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you kids filmed it. You kids filmed it,

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Speaker 1: and you did nothing to help my son. Or you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's entertainment. That's what came to me. Why

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Speaker 3: So you know I got on this mission to do

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Speaker 3: His chief of staff, Mark Berkman, called me back, and

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Speaker 3: But fast forward. Mark is now the CEO of our organization.

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Speaker 3: Like you said early on, you and I didn't grow

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know when you were speaking, and thank you

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Speaker 1: for sharing your story. And Jordan, how is Jordan doing

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Speaker 3: Physically, Jordan is better, you know, his the blood clot

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Speaker 3: That video online is forever, so we'll let ever go away.

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Speaker 3: His brain injury is always something to worry about in

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Speaker 3: the future, but also something happens to you online, it

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Speaker 1: Encouraging it's almost like giving it a badge of honor,

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Speaker 2: And please tell me Ed that the person who punched

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Speaker 3: which is also called Jordan's Law law, which we had passed.

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Speaker 3: So if you know a fight's going to happen, you

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Speaker 3: You have to check certain boxes. But we had a

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Speaker 3: the necessity of certain laws revolving around social media. We

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Speaker 1: And people need to know it's not okay and that

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Speaker 1: there are consequences to these types of actions. You know,

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Speaker 1: when you spoke to at the Boys and Girls Club event,

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Speaker 1: areas that your organization organization for Social Media safety and

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Speaker 1: by the way, his website social Media safety dot org

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Speaker 2: Are we giving our kids phones in elementary school? No? No, no,

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Speaker 3: if you stumbled across my son's video, I would hope

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Speaker 3: that instead of liking it and sharing it, you would

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Speaker 3: report it so it got removed because you might not

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Speaker 3: ever meet my son. But I'll say thank you right

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Speaker 3: now for doing that for him. And if we all

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Speaker 3: took that attitude and removed some of the bad content

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Speaker 3: that comes across our feed, there'd be less out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we have to do that for one another. We are

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Speaker 3: all the same race, we're all as human beings here

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Speaker 3: trying to survive. And if we all just got together

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Speaker 3: and did that, it would help to make social media

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Speaker 3: maybe a little more cleaned up. But to your point,

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Speaker 3: will it ever be fully No, but just.

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Speaker 2: To not be part of the problem. Let's not be

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Speaker 2: part of the problem.

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Speaker 1: Let's not be part of the negativity that can come

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Speaker 1: from this massive platform that's worldwide, so right, you could

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Speaker 1: be talking to people from other countries you don't even know.

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Speaker 2: People can hide, all right.

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Speaker 1: We call them the trolls, people who say and comment nasty, mean, dirty,

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Speaker 1: terrible things. Report and block, report and block, and try

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Speaker 1: to get these people out of your world, out of

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Speaker 1: your system, out of your eyesight, out of your mind,

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Speaker 1: because you know, these these comments can have such a

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Speaker 1: negative effect on people's psyche and feelings about our bodies

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Speaker 1: and feelings about ourselves. So there's a lot of terrible

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Speaker 1: things that people want to make us feel and do,

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Speaker 1: and so we want to get those people out. Any

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Speaker 1: other tips aside from just going to your website social

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Speaker 1: media safety dot org, social media safety dot org, any

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Speaker 1: other general tips for young people on phones today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I would always say, obviously, watch the clock.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you want to do a time challenge,

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Speaker 3: something that's beneficial and healthy, you could monitor your time

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Speaker 3: in a daily basis by writing it down and create

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Speaker 3: that habit of every day looking at how much time

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Speaker 3: you spent and then trying to lower the number, and

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Speaker 3: that's creating a very healthy habit. So the time challenge

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Speaker 3: is something that we recommend. And also nudging yourself, So

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Speaker 3: setting a nudge on your phone to send you like

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Speaker 3: a little beep or notification when you've exceeded thirty minutes

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Speaker 3: whatever that time is that you've set. But saying to

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Speaker 3: yourself a mantra like my time is valuable, not just

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Speaker 3: in your head. Say it out loud, something I try

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Speaker 3: to tell the students to do. Say it out loud everybody,

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Speaker 3: my time is valuable, and starting to repeat that mantra

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Speaker 3: so you could get the time back. I always tell

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Speaker 3: the students I speak to even the parents, there's only

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Speaker 3: twenty four hours in a day. The smartest minds in

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Speaker 3: the world are sitting at these big social you know,

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Speaker 3: big big social companies, trying to take your time and

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Speaker 3: make it theirs. That's their job. How can we get

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Speaker 3: Lisa to click an ad?

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Speaker 1: Hey want to scroll, scroll, keep on scrolling, scroll, scroll, scrolling, scroll,

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Speaker 1: and buy stuff.

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Speaker 3: Give you more dopamine to make you just keep pulling

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Speaker 3: that slot machine handle. It's time we stand up and

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Speaker 3: take the time back. Amen. Amen, that's what we have

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Speaker 3: to do, and we have to help our kids.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, I just remembered something, ed.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you want to weave this into your talks that

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Speaker 1: you do at the schools. Maybe we need to quote

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift just did that whole big thing

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Speaker 1: on the podcast, right and she said how she was

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Speaker 1: kind of commenting on how she doesn't get involved in

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Speaker 1: social media much at all, and she said kind of

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Speaker 1: a piece of advice. She said, your energy should be expensive.

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Speaker 1: Your energy is expensive. I'm not going to even give

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Speaker 1: it the time here and there. I want to announce something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not getting involved in comments people saying mean things

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Speaker 1: about me.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to give it my energy.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, here wait, I pulled it up her quote

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Speaker 1: from the podcast that she did the Kelsey Brothers podcast.

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Speaker 2: She said, you should think of your energy as if

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Speaker 2: it's expensive, as if it's a luxury item.

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Speaker 1: Not everyone can afford it. Not everyone has invested in

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Speaker 1: you in order to be able to have the capital

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Speaker 1: for you to care about this.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of people found that to be a

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Speaker 2: kind of an aha moment, like hmm, she's got something

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Speaker 2: there that's a healthy way to look at it.

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Speaker 3: You know, I loved what she had to say, and

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Speaker 3: if she is listening to this, she's welcome to come

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Speaker 3: to our gallony, John Taylor, let me tell you call us.

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Speaker 3: What she said was amazing. Be intentional with your time,

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Speaker 3: and Taylor Swift millions and millions of followers. You can

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Speaker 3: only imagine what is said about her and the way

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Speaker 3: her feed must blow up. Be intentional about what you follow,

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Speaker 3: Be intentional about your time. I loved what she said,

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Speaker 3: and that again, it's it's my goal for as long

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Speaker 3: as I'm on this planet is to help kids get

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Speaker 3: their time back, to have the childhood that you and

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Speaker 3: I had. Yep, that's what I hope. Kids.

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Speaker 1: Can put the phone down and don't let it ruin

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Speaker 1: your life. Don't let other people on these phones and

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Speaker 1: out there and this worldwide you know, social media platform.

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Speaker 1: Don't let them take you down, don't let them get

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Speaker 1: to you, don't let them affect you. Report and block,

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Speaker 1: Report and block, and reach out to Ed Peisner's organization.

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Speaker 1: It's Organization for Social Media Safety, a wealth of information.

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Speaker 1: If you can, you can reach out directly through the

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Speaker 1: website and have him speak at your school, have him

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Speaker 1: talk to you. Like you said, people can just email

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Speaker 1: and ask questions small groups, large groups, and is available

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Speaker 1: for you all the information at social Media safety dot org,

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Speaker 1: social Media safety dot org and EDWI.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Such a sweet man, right, married with a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of kids and five you have a bearded dragon.

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Speaker 2: I mean, geez, you're a busy guy.

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Speaker 1: You get to be on top of trying to save

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Speaker 1: the world and help young people online be safer.

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Speaker 3: I am newly married. We have five beautiful adults as

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Speaker 3: I call them because they're twenty one to twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, great, Yeah, we have.

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Speaker 3: A beautiful, blended family and it's a blessing. I am

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Speaker 3: blessed every day I get to go out to a

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Speaker 3: school and speak to kids and motivate them and challenge

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Speaker 3: them to get that time back and be better versions

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Speaker 3: of themselves. And you know, it's a beautiful thing. I

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Speaker 3: wish it never happened, by the way, I wish what

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Speaker 3: happened to my son never happened. Yeah, but I am

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Speaker 3: taking that mess and turning into a message and I

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Speaker 3: will not stop until we get out there and talk to.

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Speaker 2: Everyone yes you are.

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Speaker 1: God bless you and thank you for all that you're

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Speaker 1: doing for young people and just thank you phone users

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Speaker 1: and all these young people, so thank you for all

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Speaker 1: that you're doing. Please tell Jordan we say hello, and

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Speaker 1: all your kids and what's the beard of Dragon's name?

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Speaker 2: What's the beard of dragons name?

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Speaker 3: Sonny? Sonny? And we have Cooper and we have Honey,

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Speaker 3: which is our which are our two dogs?

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Speaker 2: Very nice?

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Speaker 1: Well, again, thank you so much, ED for all that

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Speaker 1: you're doing. And please reach out to ED you too,

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Speaker 1: Social Media Safety dot Org for all the info yea

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Speaker 3: Nay, thank you